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petegz28
12-03-2017, 03:05 PM
I'm not even going to bag on Smith this game.

The stupid 3rd & 1/2 yard play .....
The shit Special Teams...not bagging on the missed FG
And the defense or lack thereof. You've got to be joking me

We may not have the best talent but this comes down to coaching....

They've lost the players
The team is soft

Fucking embarrasing

manchambo
12-03-2017, 03:08 PM
Well--it's not as bad as Denver.

TLO
12-03-2017, 03:09 PM
Fuck Marcus Peters

Rasputin
12-03-2017, 03:10 PM
Oh there are words.

smithandrew051
12-03-2017, 03:11 PM
Parker and Soreneson are probably the two worst form tackling safeties in franchise history.

Neither one knows how to wrap up. They just try to shoulder check everyone. It’s so hard to watch it every week. Such poor coaching that this hasn’t been corrected. It’s an easy adjustment to make if they work on it.

Rasputin
12-03-2017, 03:12 PM
So he left on his own accord.

HolyHandgernade
12-03-2017, 03:12 PM
Its amazing how much a player can mean to a team. If Eric Berry had not gone down, I don't believe this team would be this bad, and it certainly would have more personal discipline than it is exhibiting. Leadership is an important thing and this defense has not seen someone take it up.

Flying High D
12-03-2017, 03:12 PM
In kindergarten they teach don’t touch what doesn’t belong to you. He doesn’t even act civilized. Now he quits on our team.

Fansy the Famous Bard
12-03-2017, 03:13 PM
It's a complete meltdown of this team. There HAS to be some sort of change.

displacedinMN
12-03-2017, 03:14 PM
I am done for the season.

Randallflagg
12-03-2017, 03:15 PM
This looks like the Monday Night Meltdown. It's a damned shame....

petegz28
12-03-2017, 03:15 PM
It's a complete meltdown of this team. There HAS to be some sort of change.

Time to start at the top. I am willing to hire Wade Phillips at this point. Not sure who else is out there that would be good but no one on this staff. Toube has flopped this year badly.

carcosa
12-03-2017, 03:16 PM
Dave Toub is actually a special teams genious. Remember?

Flying High D
12-03-2017, 03:16 PM
Maybe he went to the locker room because he heard the National Anthem.

LiveSteam
12-03-2017, 03:16 PM
I have all kinds of words to describe this team.
Suck
Beta
Pathetic
Lost
Shit
To name a few

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-03-2017, 03:17 PM
Quit drafting guys that dropped because they are shit human beings and this won't happen.

Pioli over-drafted guys because he thought they would be moldable to his derivative Patriots fascism, and that's dumb as fuck. Dorsey and Reid picked guys that other people avoided because they are human nitroglycerin.

Both approaches are wrong-headed.

Best22
12-03-2017, 03:21 PM
I have all kinds of words to describe this team.
Suck
Beta
Pathetic
Lost
Shit
To name a few

Beta?

Try Gamma

petegz28
12-03-2017, 03:22 PM
Just lost 3 in a row to 3 of the worst teams in the league....

Red Dawg
12-03-2017, 03:24 PM
NFL does not want us to make the playoffs. Raiders game and now this bullshit.

notorious
12-03-2017, 03:25 PM
Just lost 3 in a row to 3 of the worst teams in the league....

Denver is coming up to complete the masterpiece

rockymtnchief
12-03-2017, 03:25 PM
Well--it's not as bad as Denver.

It's worse.

Denver loses games. KC gives them away.

Son of Logical
12-03-2017, 03:25 PM
Yup, undisciplined bullshit. Just terrible. Too games now lost to a chain of terrible defensive penalties in the red zone. Unbelievable.

Best22
12-03-2017, 03:27 PM
Quit drafting guys that dropped because they are shit human beings and this won't happen.

Pioli over-drafted guys because he thought they would be moldable to his derivative Patriots fascism, and that's dumb as ****. Dorsey and Reid picked guys that other people avoided because they are human nitroglycerin.

Both approaches are wrong-headed.

Without one of those supposedly "shit human beings" this game is a 38-17 loss

Peters need to be gone after this year, though

Best22
12-03-2017, 03:28 PM
Just lost 3 in a row to 3 of the worst teams in the league....

We are one of them

petegz28
12-03-2017, 03:28 PM
5 years into the Reid era and we look like total ass. We are at the exact opposite of where we should be. Time for Reid to go.

kcxiv
12-03-2017, 03:28 PM
Fuck Marcus Peters

The thing here is Marcus Peters throwing the flag didnt hurt the team. lol It was the fucking holding.

TimBone
12-03-2017, 03:30 PM
NFL does not want us to make the playoffs. Raiders game and now this bullshit.Can't blame this one on the league. Gotta look straight at the defense.

Flying High D
12-03-2017, 03:31 PM
Throwing the flag into the stands is a good look your saying?

RobBlake
12-03-2017, 03:32 PM
If chiefs attacked defenses like they did today they would have more wins. Defense left today and without Chang won’t be back

Chiefs4TheWin
12-03-2017, 03:32 PM
O-Line - Cannot give a QB more than 2 seconds half the time

QB - Can't find open receivers at all

RB - See O line except can't open a hole

WR - Hill is decent

TE - Kelce is decent

DBs - Peters won't tackle and everyone else is lucky to have a job in the NFL period.

LBs - Aging and overpaid

DL - I think they exist, but unsure

Coaching - Reid has lost the team.
Suttons scheme does not fit our players.
everyone else kind of exists.

Overall - Crap

Gonzo
12-03-2017, 03:32 PM
They stink worse than Rosie O’Donnell’s vaginal discharge after a month of random menstration and a lack of clean water.

Best22
12-03-2017, 03:33 PM
They stink worse than Rosie O’Donnell’s vaginal discharge after a month of random menstration and a lack of clean water.

Eh...I don't think we're quite there...yet

dirk digler
12-03-2017, 03:35 PM
5 years into the Reid era and we look like total ass. We are at the exact opposite of where we should be. Time for Reid to go.

I have been hearing lots of people say Reid should be fired but don't you guys realize they JUST signed him to a new 5 year extension. They aren't firing him for another 3-4 years especially with Mahomes ready to start playing.

I am no fan by any means but we are stuck with him for several more years.

lcarus
12-03-2017, 03:35 PM
The thing here is Marcus Peters throwing the flag didnt hurt the team. lol It was the fucking holding.

Nelson holding on the 3rd down. What the fuck was he doin? We would've had the ball back down 2 with 4 something left.

YontsRBake
12-03-2017, 03:35 PM
Its amazing how much a player can mean to a team. If Eric Berry had not gone down, I don't believe this team would be this bad, and it certainly would have more personal discipline than it is exhibiting. Leadership is an important thing and this defense has not seen someone take it up.

He would have made the direct difference on that play where Sorenson and Gaines whiffed vs the Steelers. Probably is the difference in the Oakland game too.

lcarus
12-03-2017, 03:37 PM
He would have made the direct difference on that play where Sorenson and Gaines whiffed vs the Steelers. Probably is the difference in the Oakland game too.

Yeah losing Berry really fucked us this season. Sorensen isn't good. Zombo as a starting ROLB is a giant bummer as well.

FloridaMan88
12-03-2017, 03:40 PM
The collapse on defense has been stunning, but should have been expected.

No Berry was going to hurt, but then DJ looks like he's 80 years old, Justin Houston is either not healthy or just not effective anymore, Dee Ford is out of shape, the defensive line gets dominated by every offensive line they play, and the secondary is a William BURNTee caliber awful.

OnTheWarpath15
12-03-2017, 03:41 PM
NFL does not want us to make the playoffs. Raiders game and now this bullshit.

And here's a post from your typical Facebook-Chiefs fan.

Yeah, it's the refs fault that Logan went brain dead, that Nelson was tackling or trying to tackle (ASJ dragging him around like a child was actually comical) Jets receivers or that our hothead "star" CB decided to act like a child again.

Every single one of those penalties were "must" calls. Blatant.

Deberg_1990
12-03-2017, 03:42 PM
When the offense shows up the defense fails

When the defense shows up the offense fails

This team is dysfunctional and completely out of whack

I blame Reid and Sutton mostly

GloucesterChief
12-03-2017, 03:44 PM
Time to start at the top. I am willing to hire Wade Phillips at this point. Not sure who else is out there that would be good but no one on this staff. Toube has flopped this year badly.

Rex Ryan is available.

jimidollar
12-03-2017, 03:46 PM
Sorry, nothing will change until Reid is gone. I know some of you love him, but it's the truth.

kcxiv
12-03-2017, 03:51 PM
Eh...I don't think we're quite there...yet

WE lost to the Giants, a few weeks back buddy, we are there.

hitchief
12-03-2017, 04:38 PM
Belichick demands respect and results and would be all over this team (would have been 5 weeks ago) and if players make the same mistake over and over they are gone.

Andy is a players coach and wants the boys to like him, big difference.

But really, every week we find a new way to lose, its uncanny and that is coaching.

Or maybe we draft dumb as players?

Pasta Little Brioni
12-03-2017, 04:46 PM
It's the life of an average NFL team. The talent on this team was mainly smoke an mirrors.

Hammock Parties
12-03-2017, 04:47 PM
It's the life of an average NFL team. The talent on this team was mainly smoke an mirrors.

This is exactly how it was last year, except fluke punt returns and turnovers queered the reality.

If Eric Berry was around this team MIGHT be a contender but without him they definitely are not.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-03-2017, 04:48 PM
They are at least 8 and 4 with Berry. Cant under state his loss.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-03-2017, 04:49 PM
No D line, no pass rush, and absolutely horrible secondary play.

PAChiefsGuy
12-03-2017, 04:49 PM
This is exactly how it was last year, except fluke punt returns and turnovers queered the reality.

If Eric Berry was around this team MIGHT be a contender but without him they definitely are not.

You might be right but I don't think it was a fluke. As you mentioned Eric Berry is a lot better than I thought he was both on and off the field. He's on this team now no doubt in my mind we are probably 8-4 or 9-3.. He's that good... He is the main difference I see between this team and last years team.

We'd at least be getting more turnovers.

Hammock Parties
12-03-2017, 04:51 PM
You might be right but I don't think it was a fluke.

It was absolutely a fluke. It's not happening this year.

ChiTown
12-03-2017, 04:52 PM
There is absolutely NO leadership on this team. There is No accountability within this Staff. It’s a fucking blue-balls franchise.

kcpasco
12-03-2017, 04:55 PM
Berry was definitely a leader. It’s sad but Houston isn’t a leader. He hasn’t lived up to his contract.

farmerchief
12-03-2017, 04:57 PM
Yep, have to agree, may be the time to move on from Andy, he's just too much of a "good old boy" coach.

PAChiefsGuy
12-03-2017, 04:57 PM
It was absolutely a fluke. It's not happening this year.

That's cause we don't have Eric Berry. Last year we did...

Gravedigger
12-03-2017, 04:58 PM
It's the pass rush. Dee Ford was a bust, Tamba is too old and past his days, and we overvalue Justin Houston. For Houston to be good, we need a strong pass rush on the opposing side. If you want to trade Peters, Smith, or any of your pieces in the offseason to get back into the first round, I would do that to get a pass rusher.

hitchief
12-03-2017, 05:03 PM
I agree the pass rush is nonexistent! so why doesn't Sutton blitz more? Cause we are afraid to get beat quickly rather than by a slow death march every drive?

But our run D is also hot garbage.

I look at the opposing D and man it just seems like they are flying around with like 3 or 4 guys around the ball all the dam time. Us, not so much!

WhiteWhale
12-03-2017, 05:17 PM
Quit drafting guys that dropped because they are shit human beings and this won't happen.

Pioli over-drafted guys because he thought they would be moldable to his derivative Patriots fascism, and that's dumb as ****. Dorsey and Reid picked guys that other people avoided because they are human nitroglycerin.

Both approaches are wrong-headed.

So don't draft Kelce and Hill.

What is the score then?

WhiteWhale
12-03-2017, 05:18 PM
This is exactly how it was last year, except fluke punt returns and turnovers queered the reality.

If Eric Berry was around this team MIGHT be a contender but without him they definitely are not.

Man, 2 years ago this forum was about one of the most anti-Eric Berry forums one could imagine.

It actually fascinated me. Even moreso how one season flipped ALMOST the entire forum.

TEX
12-03-2017, 05:19 PM
No D line, no pass rush, and absolutely horrible secondary play.

Yep. Been that way for most of the season.

ping2000
12-03-2017, 05:22 PM
There are lots of words to describe how shitty they are. Here are seven you can't say on television according to George Carlin: shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.

007
12-03-2017, 05:42 PM
This looks like the Monday Night Meltdown. It's a damned shame....This was nothing like the monday night meltdown. But is definitely a far second to it.

Bugeater
12-03-2017, 05:59 PM
It's a bunch of guys collecting paychecks and nothing else. That includes the coaching staff.

displacedinMN
12-03-2017, 06:01 PM
/season. Football is dead to me.

Hammock Parties
12-03-2017, 06:17 PM
Man, 2 years ago this forum was about one of the most anti-Eric Berry forums one could imagine.

It actually fascinated me. Even moreso how one season flipped ALMOST the entire forum.

You don't know what you have until it's gone.

I think it's pretty clear he was team MVP the last four years.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-03-2017, 06:42 PM
Hard to take these games seriously when the players have big assed smiles on their faces after losing to a shit team. Playing for a paycheck is right.

O.city
12-03-2017, 06:45 PM
The whole teams mind set is just fucked since that steeler game

Even before that it was shaky.

IMO, once they traded up for a qb and tried to sell the team that they still believ d in the one they had, it was over.

Plus all the shit with not re upping the gm etc

Pasta Little Brioni
12-03-2017, 06:51 PM
They just don't have the talent, scheme on defense O. Embarrassing watching that secondary.

kcpasco
12-03-2017, 06:53 PM
Parker has been exposed

bevischief
12-03-2017, 07:13 PM
Lets start not doing anything Chiefs. We already saved it once. This is what we got.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-03-2017, 07:17 PM
KC Cucks

bdj23
12-03-2017, 07:21 PM
At least i can say i went to the one game Philly lost?

Eh, i gots nothin'

Best22
12-03-2017, 07:32 PM
At least i can say i went to the one game Philly lost?

Eh, i gots nothin'

Folks will be wondering how the 18-1 Eagles ever lost to the lowly Chiefs

Flying High D
12-03-2017, 07:35 PM
Chiefs 5-0 Chargers 0-4 now both 6-6.

Red Dawg
12-03-2017, 08:49 PM
I guess the thing is that they don't do anything really well. Run block no. Pass block no. Stop run no. Stop pass no. Return kicks no. This year's team is just not a good team.

Dave Lane
12-03-2017, 08:56 PM
I'm not even going to bag on Smith this game.

The stupid 3rd & 1/2 yard play .....
The shit Special Teams...not bagging on the missed FG
And the defense or lack thereof. You've got to be joking me

We may not have the best talent but this comes down to coaching....

They've lost the players
The team is soft

****ing embarrasing

As usual, you are wrong, but I assume you are drunk so I give you a pass.

The worst thing that happened today was Alice played a good first quarter.

While Everyone is freaking out, the Chiefs gave up nothing for points to the Bills and the Giants and still lost thanks to Alex. This week the defense was roasted.

Its a decent team that is finding ways to lose.

mcaj22
12-03-2017, 10:48 PM
As usual, you are wrong, but I assume you are drunk so I give you a pass.

The worst thing that happened today was Alice played a good first quarter.

While Everyone is freaking out, the Chiefs gave up nothing for points to the Bills and the Giants and still lost thanks to Alex. This week the defense was roasted.

Its a decent team that is finding ways to lose.

there is nothing decent about this team except for Kelce, Hill and Hunt

Dave Lane
12-03-2017, 10:51 PM
there is nothing decent about this team except for Kelce, Hill and Hunt

You are wrong. Like every team in the league, we have holes. We beat the Eagles and the Pats. This is not a garbage team. They are just playing like it right now.

Eleazar
12-03-2017, 10:52 PM
there is nothing decent about this team except for Kelce, Hill and Hunt

It's an 8-8 team that had a run of luck early on.

mcaj22
12-03-2017, 10:54 PM
You are wrong. Like every team in the league, we have holes. We beat the Eagles and the Pats. This is not a garbage team. They are just playing like it right now.

Its definitely a team lacking a lot of talent. Especially in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

A lot of guys with inflated contracts who either arent worth the extension or just arent any good any more.

mcaj22
12-03-2017, 10:55 PM
It's an 8-8 team that had a run of luck early on.

would you consider an 8-8 team decent in the NFL?

bevischief
12-03-2017, 11:41 PM
Fire Sutton someone. All these threads...