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T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 12:30 AM
Peters has 2018 left on his contract. In 2018, his cap hit will be $3,049,505.

After that (if the rules are commensurate with the prior year's rules): the Chiefs can do a 5th year option at a salary based on the average of the third through 25th highest salaries at CB. (Someone let me know if I'm off on that.) Last year his 5th year option would have been $8.526 million. No way to know what it will be in 2019.

So what do you think the Chiefs will do? And would you agree with that decision?

Personally, I think the Chiefs will (quietly as possible) let other teams know that he's available for the right price after this season. But they're going to want value. They're not going to "give him away". After this season, I have no clue what other teams would value him at. If he gets his mind right (and learns to tackle), I'd prefer they keep him. Otherwise, I hope they get value and translate that into a young corner that can be a #1 CB, has the right attitude, and knows nothing of bullfighting.

007
12-05-2017, 12:36 AM
He isn't going anywhere. The chiefs have no other DB worth a shit. They aren't going to deal off the only good one they have. Especially considering he would end up a Raider.

carcosa
12-05-2017, 12:40 AM
He's staying.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 12:45 AM
He isn't going anywhere. The chiefs have no other DB worth a shit. They aren't going to deal off the only good one they have.

Yes, Peters is our one good corner. Agree. But there will be FAs and the draft. If Peters has anymore issues or embarrasses the franchise, I wouldn't be surprised to see Clark "put the hammer down." It'll probably have to come from him. I don't think Andy or Veach would do it of their own accord. Just guessing most owners would have to be included in trading away a first round pick.

007
12-05-2017, 12:50 AM
Yes, Peters is our one good corner. Agree. But there will be FAs and the draft. If Peters has anymore issues or embarrasses the franchise, I wouldn't be surprised to see Clark "put the hammer down." It'll probably have to come from him. I don't think Andy or Veach would do it of their own accord. Just guessing most owners would have to be included in trading away a first round pick.

so who will be available that isn't a huge drop off for the position?

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 01:01 AM
so who will be available that isn't a huge drop off for the position?

Well, FA is a mystery at this point. Right? As for the draft? So many better draftniks than me at CP. Would be nice if we got a first for him. Get back what we gave to the Bills. Here's a 2018 preview from CBS. I'm guessing most of them will at least tackle better than Peters. :)


2018 TOP NFL DRAFT PROSPECTS - CORNERBACK

RK PLAYER POS POS SCHOOL CLASS HT WT
18 Joshua Jackson CB Iowa Jr 6-1 192
24 Denzel Ward CB Ohio State Jr 5-10 191
30 Isaiah Oliver CB Colorado Jr 6-1 190
40 Jaire Alexander CB Louisville Jr 5-11 192
50 Kameron Kelly CB San Diego State Sr 6-2 195
73 Quenton Meeks CB Stanford Jr 6-2 204
78 Levi Wallace CB Alabama Sr 6-0 181
81 T. McFadden CB Florida State Jr 6-2 198
86 Jordan Wyatt CB S Methodist Jr 6-0 192
92 M.J. Stewart CB North Carolina Sr 6-0 200

007
12-05-2017, 01:19 AM
Well, FA is a mystery at this point. Right? As for the draft? So many better draftniks than me at CP. Would be nice if we got a first for him. Get back what we gave to the Bills. Here's a 2018 preview from CBS. I'm guessing most of them will at least tackle better than Peters. :)


2018 TOP NFL DRAFT PROSPECTS - CORNERBACK

RK PLAYER POS POS SCHOOL CLASS HT WT
18 Joshua Jackson CB Iowa Jr 6-1 192
24 Denzel Ward CB Ohio State Jr 5-10 191
30 Isaiah Oliver CB Colorado Jr 6-1 190
40 Jaire Alexander CB Louisville Jr 5-11 192
50 Kameron Kelly CB San Diego State Sr 6-2 195
73 Quenton Meeks CB Stanford Jr 6-2 204
78 Levi Wallace CB Alabama Sr 6-0 181
81 T. McFadden CB Florida State Jr 6-2 198
86 Jordan Wyatt CB S Methodist Jr 6-0 192
92 M.J. Stewart CB North Carolina Sr 6-0 200

With the problems that come with him, I wonder if anyone would offer a first for him. Ultimately that is why I don't think we will be able to trade him off. The Chiefs absolutely need a first for him and I just don't see any team willing to go that high.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 01:33 AM
With the problems that come with him, I wonder if anyone would offer a first for him. Ultimately that is why I don't think we will be able to trade him off. The Chiefs absolutely need a first for him and I just don't see any team willing to go that high.

Well maybe he'll have a divine intervention and pad his resume these last 4 games. (Not even going to suggest playoffs at this point, sadly.) That might boost his stock. There's always one desperate team...maybe two. :)

007
12-05-2017, 01:34 AM
Well maybe he'll have a divine intervention and pad his resume these last 4 games. (Not even going to suggest playoffs at this point, sadly.)

yet you brought up playoffs anyway. :D

Nah, Peters is a huge drum of TNT just waiting to explode.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 01:39 AM
yet you brought up playoffs anyway. :D

Nah, Peters is a huge drum of TNT just waiting to explode.

Sounds like a fit for the Faiders. If Lynch plays next year, maybe he'll help convince the Faiders to trade. And then twice a year we can watch Peters get burnt by Hill or run over by Kelce/Hunt. Win:Win

007
12-05-2017, 01:42 AM
Sounds like a fit for the Faiders. If Lynch plays next year, maybe he'll help convince the Faiders to trade. And then twice a year we can watch Peters get burnt by Hill or run over by Kelce/Hunt. Win:Win

I just don't see the Chiefs and RAiders doing a trade together for him. I'd like the think the Chiefs would avoid that trade. Of course, if the price is right....

kccrow
12-05-2017, 01:50 AM
Trade him for a first.

Simply Red
12-05-2017, 02:13 AM
trade that mother fucker for a legit pass rusher - if possi...

Simply Red
12-05-2017, 02:14 AM
trade that mother ****er for a legit pass rusher - if possi...

Atlanta would namely be the team to go after.

Simply Red
12-05-2017, 02:15 AM
I do NOT like him trade him immediately Brett!

Simply Red
12-05-2017, 02:16 AM
so who will be available that isn't a huge drop off for the position?

someone who can actually pressure the QB - not a position for position trade - trade him for a pass rusher - should his contract deem it.

007
12-05-2017, 02:21 AM
someone who can actually pressure the QB - not a position for position trade - trade him for a pass rusher - should his contract deem it.

So we can have ineptitude at corner on both sides. Sounds like a great plan.:D

Danguardace
12-05-2017, 02:45 AM
I cant see him going anywhere. Is he any worse than Kelce?

007
12-05-2017, 03:02 AM
I cant see him going anywhere. Is he any worse than Kelce?

I just don't get the hate on Kelce. Peters and Kelce are not the same coin.

Danguardace
12-05-2017, 03:15 AM
I just don't get the hate on Kelce. Peters and Kelce are not the same coin.

You have a short memory then.

Danguardace
12-05-2017, 03:22 AM
I just don't get the hate on Kelce. Peters and Kelce are not the same coin.


Kelce '16 (http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/t-kelce-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2016)

Peters '16 (http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/m-peters-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2016)

007
12-05-2017, 03:28 AM
You have a short memory then.

No, I remember all of that. And yes, Peters is worse.

Danguardace
12-05-2017, 03:31 AM
No, I remember all of that. And yes, Peters is worse.

You're an idiot then, need to remove Travis' Penis from your rectum.

007
12-05-2017, 03:34 AM
You're an idiot then, need to remove Travis' Penis from your rectum.

Well, I can see you are a waste of time. Sorry I even engaged you on the subject. You do realize I'm the one saying Peters is not going anywhere.

Molitoth
12-05-2017, 03:40 AM
trade that mother ****er for a legit pass rusher - if possi...

So Sutton can drop him back in pass coverage?

Until the DC situation is fixed, I think it may be moot to invest in pass rushers... I mean, we have one of the best proven pass rushers in the NFL and he can't do shit in this defense right now.

Danguardace
12-05-2017, 03:52 AM
Well, I can see you are a waste of time. Sorry I even engaged you on the subject. You do realize I'm the one saying Peters is not going anywhere.

I don't care whether you think he is going or not but to say Kelce is absolved just because he has gone a few games without doing anything dump is pathetic.

Kelce is to the Offense what Peters is to the Defense both are talented but petulant. You say Peters is worse but how? They have both had periods where Reid has had to address their crap in Pressers and last time I checked Peters has never been ejected.

007
12-05-2017, 03:56 AM
I don't care whether you think he is going or not but to say Kelce is absolved just because he has gone a few games without doing anything dump is pathetic.

Kelce is to the Offense what Peters is to the Defense both are talented but petulant. You say Peters is worse but how? They have both had periods where Reid has had to address their crap in Pressers and last time I checked Peters has never been ejected.

Where the fuck did I say Kelce was absolved of anything? JFC I said I consider Peters to be worst and more of a ticking time bomb.

By the way, its ok to disagree without being a jackass about it.

BryanBusby
12-05-2017, 04:15 AM
They aren't trading their #1 corner with a roster overhaul looming.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 04:35 AM
Kelce '16 (http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/t-kelce-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2016)

Peters '16 (http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/m-peters-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2016)

In the "What have you done for me lately" department:

http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/t-kelce-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2017
http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/m-peters-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2017

AND

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Peters had a great game with the two takeaways... but wasn’t real interested in tackling anyone. <a href="https://t.co/OFpHzLf0Gp">pic.twitter.com/OFpHzLf0Gp</a></p>&mdash; Soren Petro (@SorenPetro) <a href="https://twitter.com/SorenPetro/status/925366746214748160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

National Anthem anyone?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9199727/20170907193947_1024.jpg

KELCE 2017 YTD

REC 66
TGTS 95
YDS 871
AVG 13.2
LNG 44
TD 7

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Less then 5 minutes into this game...<a href="https://twitter.com/tkelce?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TKelce</a> just caught his 2nd TD of the day! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/AxQ0Q4QTZk">pic.twitter.com/AxQ0Q4QTZk</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/937385217064448000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

007
12-05-2017, 04:39 AM
In the "What have you done for me lately" department:

http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/t-kelce-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2017
http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/m-peters-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2017

AND

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Peters had a great game with the two takeaways... but wasn’t real interested in tackling anyone. <a href="https://t.co/OFpHzLf0Gp">pic.twitter.com/OFpHzLf0Gp</a></p>&mdash; Soren Petro (@SorenPetro) <a href="https://twitter.com/SorenPetro/status/925366746214748160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

National Anthem anyone?



WTF? Ole anyone.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 04:42 AM
WTF? Ole anyone.

:D Yep.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmKyM12i9gk/ToCeNKb6ZoI/AAAAAAAAHkQ/K8LUe5Uc4N4/s1600/eljuli.jpg

TwistedChief
12-05-2017, 04:50 AM
This thread is ridiculous. We're not doing anything with Peters after this season. He's one of the better/best CBs in the game and we have no alternative. The idea that we're just going to pick up someone of his caliber in the draft or free agency is a huge stretch. Maybe Gaines will become Deion Sanders?

As for Kelce vs Peters - both are talented yet "petulant" headcases who do dumb s***. The difference is you can question Peters's effort as per some of the tackling gifs already posted in this thread. Just horrible.

007
12-05-2017, 04:54 AM
This thread is ridiculous. We're not doing anything with Peters after this season. He's one of the better/best CBs in the game and we have no alternative. The idea that we're just going to pick up someone of his caliber in the draft or free agency is a huge stretch. Maybe Gaines will become Deion Sanders?

As for Kelce vs Peters - both are talented yet "petulant" headcases who do dumb s***. The difference is you can question Peters's effort as per some of the tackling gifs already posted in this thread. Just horrible.

The only reason Kelce disappears from the game is because of Alex or the damn coaches and their shit playcalling.

Bewbies
12-05-2017, 05:37 AM
When we get a competent d-coordinator again everyone will return to loving him.

007
12-05-2017, 05:38 AM
When we get a competent d-coordinator again everyone will return to loving him.

We all know Sutton isn't going anywhere. This will be Vermiel all over again. Andy will stick with his guy until there is no other choice. When we lose another playoff game is when that choice might be entertained.

Red Dawg
12-05-2017, 05:52 AM
He's not staying. Trade him while you can anf get a first rounder. I want David fucking Putney because I feel like it.

Red Dawg
12-05-2017, 05:53 AM
We all know Sutton isn't going anywhere. This will be Vermiel all over again. Andy will stick with his guy until there is no other choice. When we lose another playoff game is when that choice might be entertained.

I really hope not. It does feel that way.

farmerchief
12-05-2017, 05:58 AM
I still want to know if it is his idea to play 10 yards off the WR or if its Suttons scheme and game plan? As independent as Peters appears to be, I cant imagine anyone telling him to do something he doesn't want to do? Im thinking it is a little of both, as Peters sure doesnt want to get burnt for a TD.

PAChiefsGuy
12-05-2017, 05:58 AM
This thread is ridiculous. We're not doing anything with Peters after this season. He's one of the better/best CBs in the game and we have no alternative. The idea that we're just going to pick up someone of his caliber in the draft or free agency is a huge stretch. Maybe Gaines will become Deion Sanders?

As for Kelce vs Peters - both are talented yet "petulant" headcases who do dumb s***. The difference is you can question Peters's effort as per some of the tackling gifs already posted in this thread. Just horrible.

I agree with this. It'd be idiotic to get rid of Peters while he is still on his rookie contract. He's a great player. Once his rookie contract is up then we can talk but until then keep him. He's a freaking steal at his salary.

loochy
12-05-2017, 06:02 AM
They'll do nothing. This team, coaches, management, and ownership have not demonstrated an ounce of hardness/hardassness.

Edit:well maybe the Jeremy Maclin thing kind of was

ILChief
12-05-2017, 06:20 AM
Pick up his 5th year option. He's by far the best CB on the team. Yes he can be a shithead, but the good outweighs the bad.

ILChief
12-05-2017, 06:26 AM
I just don't get the hate on Kelce. Peters and Kelce are not the same coin.

How are they different? Both help the community a lot and never are in trouble with the law. Both are among the best at their positions when focused. Both can be immature and throw tantrums on the field when things don't go their way. Other than the anthem stuff, I don't see a difference

Red Beans
12-05-2017, 06:30 AM
How is this even a discussion?

willi89
12-05-2017, 06:51 AM
just give the man some socks and leave him alone

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-05-2017, 07:24 AM
When we get a competent d-coordinator again everyone will return to loving him.

And a pass rush. Hell, even if you can only get the pass rush, they'll start singing their sweet, Tyreek love song to Marcus Peters as well.

Fickle, fickle, short-sighted bitches.

MahiMike
12-05-2017, 07:27 AM
He's outta here! Bring on Richard Sherman.

HemiEd
12-05-2017, 07:45 AM
Sounds like a fit for the Faiders. If Lynch plays next year, maybe he'll help convince the Faiders to trade. And then twice a year we can watch Peters get burnt by Hill or run over by Kelce/Hunt. Win:Win

If Marvin Lewis keeps his Bengals job, he has proven to be a good baby sitter.

kccrow
12-05-2017, 08:02 AM
The fact people think Peters is one of the best CB's in the league is what makes this thread ridiculous.

The only reason you even start Peters is his knack for INTs, but even those don't necessarily make up for his shit play at times. He only has 5 PDs all season, which puts him in the 100's for DBs. His play against the run in atrocious at best. He can't defend an inside slant to save his life, and the league has finally caught on to what I said a long time ago.

The fact that he forces turnovers is his only redeeming quality, and that is what keeps his value high enough in a potential trade. If I could get a 1st back for him, I'd send him out of town and get someone who wants to play football and not be a glory boy.

Reerun_KC
12-05-2017, 08:04 AM
How is this even a discussion?



Someone got their feelers hurt.

Calcountry
12-05-2017, 08:17 AM
WTF? Ole anyone.
Reason enough to cease giving a shit about this team.

Dayze
12-05-2017, 08:21 AM
I wonder if he would get away with some of the shit he does, if he played in NE, Pitt, or Seattle etc. not only in terms of the dumb stuff he does, but also his 'tackling'.


it's almost like the culture with the Chiefs is a soft one, just like the HC.
( ~ )

Chiefnj2
12-05-2017, 08:26 AM
Are there any media interviews with Peters after games? What is he saying in the locker room?

RunKC
12-05-2017, 08:28 AM
He'll be a Chief in 2018.

His bad play is a combination of the pass rush being non-existent. The Chiefs only have 7 sacks in their 1-6 streak...dead last in the NFL in that timeframe.

There isn't a CB in this league that succeeds in those circumstances.

synthesis2
12-05-2017, 08:41 AM
Look I'm ok with just trading him and getting a first, I think he is worth a first based on his talent and his age. Another team would know 100% that they are getting a great corner skills wise and everyone thinks they can change ones personality and make them better. So trade for a first.

Then take the first and get the best corner available, even if he is 90% of peters without the baggage and we control him for 5 years with a low salary, I'm in.

prhom
12-05-2017, 08:41 AM
Of course you keep him next year, it would be dumb to get rid of him on a rookie contract. I think you even pick up the 5th year option and begin discussions about his next contract. If he wants top 3 CB money then you look to trade him while the 5th option is still good. I’m convinced that unless you are talking about a true franchise QB, you should NEVER give a contract to anyone that put them in the top 3 paid players at their position. Maybe a LT if he’s the second coming of willie roaf. Otherwise you set yourself up for disaster.

It really hamstrings a team to have so much money tied up in non-QB contracts. Those guys may be great when playing, but I think you are further ahead by having two solid players for the price of one great one. Peters may even end up being an all-time great CB, but he clearly can’t win games for us all by himself. I’d rather have two average to above average CBs than give him a top 3 contract.

SuperBowl4
12-05-2017, 08:42 AM
Trade MP to Atlanta for Dontari Poe. Bring Poe back to KC!

Eleazar
12-05-2017, 08:47 AM
He'll be back with no consequences, since this is an Andy Reid regime where there is no accountability for anyone

Fish
12-05-2017, 08:51 AM
Are there any media interviews with Peters after games? What is he saying in the locker room?

He didn't talk to reporters after the last game. I don't think he did the game before either.

Mecca
12-05-2017, 08:51 AM
It'd be completely stupid to trade him because you're telling everyone he doesn't have value so then you're basically giving him away.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 08:58 AM
This thread is ridiculous. We're not doing anything with Peters after this season. He's one of the better/best CBs in the game and we have no alternative. The idea that we're just going to pick up someone of his caliber in the draft or free agency is a huge stretch. Maybe Gaines will become Deion Sanders?

As for Kelce vs Peters - both are talented yet "petulant" headcases who do dumb s***. The difference is you can question Peters's effort as per some of the tackling gifs already posted in this thread. Just horrible.

So considering the possibilities of what the Chiefs might do in the off-season is ridiculous? Okay. And to say that Travis Kelce has got his head screwed on straight since about the third game this season is not true? Would you say that he is not one of the best players at his position in the NFL? And to say that Peters' performance and behavior has been questionable lately is incorrect? Alrighty then. By all accounts this thread is ridiculous. Take me back to DC.

Mecca
12-05-2017, 09:01 AM
Peters is about 8th on the list of defensive problems on the team yet he has threads because apparently it's better to be Justin Houston and have a huge contract and suck in silence.

Chiefnj2
12-05-2017, 09:05 AM
When other teams hit a slide or rough patch you will hear about a players only meeting and things like that. Nothing in KC. No leadership. Reid doesn't hold people accountable and it trickles down.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 09:05 AM
It'd be completely stupid to trade him because you're telling everyone he doesn't have value so then you're basically giving him away.

There are precedents in the NFL where a change of scenery has done wonders for a player's performance and attitude. Teams know and understand this. Sometimes,
as in romance, hope wins out over experience.

scho63
12-05-2017, 09:09 AM
Can't they find guys who are 6-3 or 6-4 who can play CB or DB?

Mecca
12-05-2017, 09:10 AM
I remember guys it's Kansas City, forget having talented dudes who do stupid things sometimes, we need a bunch of try hard lunch pail dudes.

We need to be 2-14 but have all the choir boys, that's right eh.

Mecca
12-05-2017, 09:10 AM
Can't they find guys who are 6-3 or 6-4 who can play CB or DB?

Most guys that tall are going to suck at CB because taller guys have stiffer hips so it's hard to cut like they need to.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 09:11 AM
Peters is about 8th on the list of defensive problems on the team yet he has threads because apparently it's better to be Justin Houston and have a huge contract and suck in silence.

Peter's is definitely not the worst name going on this defense. However, he may be the most tradable player on the defense. Don't underestimate Clark's aversion to having a player embarrass the franchise.

Chiefnj2
12-05-2017, 09:13 AM
Peter's is definitely not the worst name going on this defense. However, he may be the most tradable player on the defense. Don't underestimate Clark's aversion to having a player embarrass the franchise.

Then Clark should talk to Reid about getting a handle on his team.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 09:14 AM
When other teams hit a slide or rough patch you will hear about a players only meeting and things like that. Nothing in KC. No leadership. Reid doesn't hold people accountable and it trickles down.


That seems to be very true from the outside looking in. Frustrating.

lcarus
12-05-2017, 09:34 AM
He's one of the very few players on our defense who is young and has talent. He threw a flag. So what. The only issue I have is his unwillingness to tackle at times. Something tells me that shit won't fly when we get Berry back and revamp this defense. It's a shitshow this year.

Lucky for Steven Nelson everyone is talking about a dumb technical foul after a 2 pt conversion. Instead of you know...his BAFFLING blatant WWE holds he put on Jets receivers twice that fucked us.

BlackHelicopters
12-05-2017, 10:31 AM
Contract extension

King_Chief_Fan
12-05-2017, 10:48 AM
Contract extension

Agree

IowaHawkeyeChief
12-05-2017, 11:04 AM
If someone would actually give the Chiefs a 1st or a high 2nd (bad team) then he is Mahatma G'one'di. He is uninspired, afraid of contact and teams aren't scared to go his way anymore. We do have a ton of issue on our D. Pass rush is one of them. You could rebuild with a 1 or high 2 and start the rookie clock over on an edge rusher or CB. Peters will not be a Chief in 2019... no way, his choice, unless we franchise him and that number would be quite high. I also highly doubt he is a real positive force in the locker room. Football is as much about talent as it is about cohesiveness. You need some talent, but it's hard to win without cohesiveness. This team does not appear to be very tight and I wouldn't be surprised if Peter's is one of the reasons. Time will tell, but it does not make sense to keep him for 1 more year... most likely a rebuilding year, then to start that rebuilding in this years draft with a top pick, or a trade that is Peters for a proven pass rusher.

ChiefsCountry
12-05-2017, 11:06 AM
You let Peters play out his contract. In baseball terms - you get his best WAR years, and then let him walk. No way do I pay him a big time contract.

The Franchise
12-05-2017, 11:09 AM
You let Peters play out his contract. In baseball terms - you get his best WAR years, and then let him walk. No way do I pay him a big time contract.

2018 - Plays out the last year of his deal.
2019 - Fifth year option worth roughly $9-$10 million
2020 - Franchise tag and work a trade if you really want him gone.

Meatloaf
12-05-2017, 11:27 AM
He's one of the very few players on our defense who is young and has talent. He threw a flag. So what. The only issue I have is his unwillingness to tackle at times. Something tells me that shit won't fly when we get Berry back and revamp this defense. It's a shitshow this year.

Lucky for Steven Nelson everyone is talking about a dumb technical foul after a 2 pt conversion. Instead of you know...his BAFFLING blatant WWE holds he put on Jets receivers twice that ****ed us.

Absolutely agree, Icarus. People are acting like he murdered someone. Good grief. The kid is obviously an emotional sort, and with the refs throwing flag after flag against the Chiefs, the kid just lost it. Big stinking deal.

To me, people simply don't understand what makes this guy tick, and because he has a bit too much ghetto in him for midwestern taste, they see everything this guy does as evil. Hells bells, I personally don't think he threw the flag far enough.

I will agree however that the "ole" style of "tackling" must stop, and to some extent, I think it has. Beyond that, Peters is one of the few guys out there who shows some stinking passion about losing. He doesn't like it. At all.

Hey, the guy's not perfect and has done some stupid shit, but honestly, Ireally don't see him as a bad guy. Misunderstood? Yes. Bad guy? Not in my book.

hitchief
12-05-2017, 11:39 AM
Emotion is great and much needed by more players on this team.

But it has to be mated with intelligence (at least football IQ) and Peter's has shown a startling lack of it this year.

He must show more consistence the rest of the year or its an indicator of things/years to come and you cant pay what he's gonna want (top db dollar) for that!

I hope he turns this around as it was fun as hell watching him when he's on his game.

lcarus
12-05-2017, 11:39 AM
Absolutely agree, Icarus. People are acting like he murdered someone. Good grief. The kid is obviously an emotional sort, and with the refs throwing flag after flag against the Chiefs, the kid just lost it. Big stinking deal.

To me, people simply don't understand what makes this guy tick, and because he has a bit too much ghetto in him for midwestern taste, they see everything this guy does as evil. Hells bells, I personally don't think he threw the flag far enough.

I will agree however that the "ole" style of "tackling" must stop, and to some extent, I think it has. Beyond that, Peters is one of the few guys out there who shows some stinking passion about losing. He doesn't like it. At all.

Hey, the guy's not perfect and has done some stupid shit, but honestly, Ireally don't see him as a bad guy. Misunderstood? Yes. Bad guy? Not in my book.

I think once Sutton is gone and Berry is back , Peters and the defense will be fine. I don't know what his issues are with Sutton or if that was a one time blowup directed at him. But it just reaffirms my belief that a change at D-coordinator is desperately needed.

prhom
12-05-2017, 11:43 AM
2018 - Plays out the last year of his deal.
2019 - Fifth year option worth roughly $9-$10 million
2020 - Franchise tag and work a trade if you really want him gone.

I agree here, except I would trade him in 2019 if preliminary discussions with his agent indicate he’s looking for top dollar in his next deal. We have two offseasons in which to find 3 CBs that way. I expect him to want top dollar after year 5 and I don’t think you pay that to a CB. The Broncos showed that with 3 good-great CBs you can take away a lot from offenses. Tying up a bunch of money in just one guy is problematic. Long term contract or one year tag salary for him is going to be too much. The 2017 tag amount is $14M. We could get a lot of depth for that same money.

Superbowltrashcan
12-05-2017, 12:25 PM
I agree here, except I would trade him in 2019 if preliminary discussions with his agent indicate he’s looking for top dollar in his next deal. We have two offseasons in which to find 3 CBs that way. I expect him to want top dollar after year 5 and I don’t think you pay that to a CB. The Broncos showed that with 3 good-great CBs you can take away a lot from offenses. Tying up a bunch of money in just one guy is problematic. Long term contract or one year tag salary for him is going to be too much. The 2017 tag amount is $14M. We could get a lot of depth for that same money.

Look I despise the Donkeys with all I can muster. But even in spite of the clown show the Broncos Defense has demonstrated of late, Roby, Harris, and Talib are all in the PFF top 20 in the league at CB. I am not so confident you can get there with the "a lot of depth" strategy. And in recognize PFF is just one source.

In the end, Peters gonna Peters. If we were 10-2 or 9-3, it would be as relevant as a pimple on some bombshell's rear. I mean spirals start at a point. No AB TD against the Steelers? No Zeke vs. Dallas assuming the Steelers victory? I mean this is a head coach losing the faith of a roster wholesale. The "good guys" aren't stepping up and being the locker room police on Andy's behalf because they don't believe in the scheme on the defensive side nor the playcalling on the offensive side...

Sorry. I will climb down off my pulpit....:banghead:

prhom
12-05-2017, 02:15 PM
Look I despise the Donkeys with all I can muster. But even in spite of the clown show the Broncos Defense has demonstrated of late, Roby, Harris, and Talib are all in the PFF top 20 in the league at CB. I am not so confident you can get there with the "a lot of depth" strategy. And in recognize PFF is just one source.

In the end, Peters gonna Peters. If we were 10-2 or 9-3, it would be as relevant as a pimple on some bombshell's rear. I mean spirals start at a point. No AB TD against the Steelers? No Zeke vs. Dallas assuming the Steelers victory? I mean this is a head coach losing the faith of a roster wholesale. The "good guys" aren't stepping up and being the locker room police on Andy's behalf because they don't believe in the scheme on the defensive side nor the playcalling on the offensive side...

Sorry. I will climb down off my pulpit....:banghead:

I think you misunderstand me a little. I’m not even saying Peters has done anything to warrant us being afraid of a big contract. He’s hot headed, but my point is that we shouldn’t give him a top three contract regardless of his actions. If we can get him for something reasonable, sure, but he’s gonna want big time money. We have had too much cap money tied up on broken players for me to support handing out huge contracts to anyone other than a franchise QB.

notorious
12-05-2017, 02:57 PM
The will keep him unless they are morons.

staylor26
12-05-2017, 03:06 PM
2018 - Plays out the last year of his deal.
2019 - Fifth year option worth roughly $9-$10 million
2020 - Franchise tag and work a trade if you really want him gone.

This

lcarus
12-05-2017, 03:17 PM
The will keep him unless they are morons.

What you don't want our CB depth chart to look like this next season?

Steven Nelson
Terrance Mitchell
Phil Gaines
2nd/3rd round rookie from Central Michigan or Idaho State
Revis/some other retread free agent that literally no other team wants

Sounds awesome. It'll be ok because Mahomes will score 60 a game! :drool:

RXTbone
12-05-2017, 03:20 PM
Absolutely agree, Icarus. People are acting like he murdered someone. Good grief. The kid is obviously an emotional sort, and with the refs throwing flag after flag against the Chiefs, the kid just lost it. Big stinking deal.

To me, people simply don't understand what makes this guy tick, and because he has a bit too much ghetto in him for midwestern taste, they see everything this guy does as evil. Hells bells, I personally don't think he threw the flag far enough.

I will agree however that the "ole" style of "tackling" must stop, and to some extent, I think it has. Beyond that, Peters is one of the few guys out there who shows some stinking passion about losing. He doesn't like it. At all.

Hey, the guy's not perfect and has done some stupid shit, but honestly, Ireally don't see him as a bad guy. Misunderstood? Yes. Bad guy? Not in my book.

Peters may be the nicest guy in the world - I read somewhere he bought a kid some shoes, that's cool - but who gives a shit when it comes to football? Peters is so unprofessional it's embarrassing. And having ex in-laws involved in professional sports - Peters doesn't have some lock on being 'passionate' and 'competitive' - 99.9% of players on every NFL team are. They work their asses off for their professions. If Peters was an employee at my workplace - bad attitude, walking off a shift, sulking around and bitching, and ultimately not doing his job - he'd be fired. Even my employees wear their socks.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 03:22 PM
Something tells me that shit won't fly when we get Berry back and revamp this defense. It's a shitshow this year.


Berry is on the sideline, in the meetings, in the locker room.... He doesn't appear to be having any impact on Peters' behavior or performance. Not sure he ever will. But I do agree: this year's defense is a shitshow. 100% correct on that.

HemiEd
12-05-2017, 03:22 PM
The fact people think Peters is one of the best CB's in the league is what makes this thread ridiculous.

The only reason you even start Peters is his knack for INTs, but even those don't necessarily make up for his shit play at times. He only has 5 PDs all season, which puts him in the 100's for DBs. His play against the run in atrocious at best. He can't defend an inside slant to save his life, and the league has finally caught on to what I said a long time ago.

The fact that he forces turnovers is his only redeeming quality, and that is what keeps his value high enough in a potential trade. If I could get a 1st back for him, I'd send him out of town and get someone who wants to play football and not be a glory boy.
:clap:

Randallflagg
12-05-2017, 03:27 PM
The fact people think Peters is one of the best CB's in the league is what makes this thread ridiculous.

The only reason you even start Peters is his knack for INTs, but even those don't necessarily make up for his shit play at times. He only has 5 PDs all season, which puts him in the 100's for DBs. His play against the run in atrocious at best. He can't defend an inside slant to save his life, and the league has finally caught on to what I said a long time ago.

The fact that he forces turnovers is his only redeeming quality, and that is what keeps his value high enough in a potential trade. If I could get a 1st back for him, I'd send him out of town and get someone who wants to play football and not be a glory boy.


Couldn't agree more.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 03:33 PM
What you don't want our CB depth chart to look like this next season?

Steven Nelson
Terrance Mitchell
Phil Gaines
2nd/3rd round rookie from Central Michigan or Idaho State
Revis/some other retread free agent that literally no other team wants

Sounds awesome. It'll be ok because Mahomes will score 60 a game! :drool:

Chiefs might get a first round pick. It they trade Peters and Smith, there are a lot of potential possibilities.

Trades can be good if the FO knows what they're doing. Ex: We just got Ragland for a 4th. His arrow is pointing up.

Free agency? FA is like a box of chocolates. Good things can happen.

2016 FA
Chargers got CB Casey Hayward.
TB got CB Brent Grimes.
Skins got CB Josh Norman.
Giants got CB Janoris Jenkins.
Eagle got S Rodney McLeod.
Ravens got S Eric Weddle.

lcarus
12-05-2017, 03:49 PM
Chiefs might get a first round pick. It they trade Peters and Smith, there are a lot of potential possibilities.

Trades can be good if the FO knows what they're doing. Ex: We just got Ragland for a 4th. His arrow is pointing up.

Free agency? FA is like a box of chocolates. Good things can happen.

2016 FA
Chargers got CB Casey Hayward.
TB got CB Brent Grimes.
Skins got CB Josh Norman.
Giants got CB Janoris Jenkins.
Eagle got S Rodney McLeod.
Ravens got S Eric Weddle.

I don't know. I think Peters will be fine. He's having a bad year where the whole team can't or won't tackle and offenses are going left because we have Sorensen, Zombo and Acker/Mitchell/Gaines over there. And he still is among the NFL leaders in takeaways with 3 picks and 2 forced fumbles. He's had some bad plays and some unnecessary antics but I'm not on the "get rid of him train". Not yet anyway. Still 4 games left though. He could take a dump on a fan's head and rape a paraplegic between now and the end of the season.

T-post Tom
12-05-2017, 04:02 PM
I don't know. I think Peters will be fine. He's having a bad year where the whole team can't or won't tackle and offenses are going left because we have Sorensen, Zombo and Acker/Mitchell/Gaines over there. And he still is among the NFL leaders in takeaways with 3 picks and 2 forced fumbles. He's had some bad plays and some unnecessary antics but I'm not on the "get rid of him train". Not yet anyway. Still 4 games left though. He could take a dump on a fan's head and rape a paraplegic between now and the end of the season.

I'm already on record for hoping Peters gets his mind right and learns how to tackle in the off season. If that happens, I'm glad to see him stay. But I just don't see it. His disposition reminds me of Larry Johnson. A coach's kid with the wrong kind of baggage/attitude. LJ just recently made a semi mea culpa about his behavior while in the NFL. Years AFTER his NFL retirement. I'm hoping the best for Peters, but not expecting it.

lcarus
12-05-2017, 04:06 PM
I'm already on record for hoping Peters gets his mind right and learns how to tackle in the off season. If that happens, I'm glad to see him stay. But I just don't see it. His disposition reminds me of Larry Johnson. A coach's kid with the wrong kind of baggage/attitude. LJ just recently made a semi mea culpa about his behavior while in the NFL. Years AFTER his NFL retirement. I'm hoping the best for Peters, but not expecting it.

He could definitely go in one of two directions. I can see the similarity to LJ. I sure as hell hope his outcome is different.

Coogs
12-05-2017, 07:28 PM
I have not read the whole thread, so this may have already been mentioned, but I see him holding out just like Aaron Donald did this year.

sedated
12-05-2017, 07:45 PM
If you were to trade him now, in reality you'd get the type of return that a struggling player gets from teams wanting a lottery ticket, but everyone expects a 1st.

Of course, as soon as he is actually worth something, everyone will want to keep him.

The eternal life of the armchair GM.

Quesadilla Joe
12-05-2017, 07:59 PM
Peters can only keep his cool when things are going well. The Chiefs need to go through a brief rebuild while they begin to bring Mahomes along and Peters isn't the type of guy you want on your team during that process.

The guy makes some big plays, but he gives up just as many as he makes and is a major liability in the run game. Having guys like Kelce, Hill, and Peters as the face of your franchise is not a good thing.

New World Order
12-05-2017, 08:01 PM
Peters can only keep his cool when things are going well. The Chiefs need to go through a brief rebuild while they begin to bring Mahomes along and Peters isn't the type of guy you want on your team during that process.

The guy makes some big plays, but he gives up just as many as he makes and is a major liability in the run game. Having guys like Kelce, Hill, and Peters as the face of your franchise is not a good thing.

Mahomes will be the face of the franchise.

Quesadilla Joe
12-05-2017, 08:22 PM
Are there any media interviews with Peters after games? What is he saying in the locker room?

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RunKC
12-05-2017, 08:24 PM
Mahomes will be the face of the franchise.

He's mad bc the Broncos don't have young players that talented to be the future of their franchise.

sedated
12-05-2017, 08:26 PM
Having guys like Kelce, Hill, and Peters as the face of your franchise is not a good thing.

This coming from a fan of the team with Aquib Talib as one of its "faces".

Simply Red
12-06-2017, 01:26 AM
So we can have ineptitude at corner on both sides. Sounds like a great plan.:D

Fuck this year, okay? Get the pass rusher draft a corner or figure out how to recruit one via FA. It's not that hard.

Simply Red
12-06-2017, 01:28 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RT <a href="https://twitter.com/thefanaticsview?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thefanaticsview</a>: 😲😂😂😂 This Marcus Peters interview is as Oakland as it gets (via <a href="https://twitter.com/stillnegusbee?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@stillnegusbee</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/fcZ046hZZj">pic.twitter.com/fcZ046hZZj</a></p>&mdash; Bill (@PJackk) <a href="https://twitter.com/PJackk/status/915898887109529600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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This guy makes Talib look like Joel Osteen. Fucking idiot - Get this nigga off of my team!

Simply Red
12-06-2017, 01:29 AM
If by 'u feel me' you mean fuck yourself w/ a totem pole - than yes - I FEEL YOU! Fucking idiot!

Simply Red
12-06-2017, 01:31 AM
Peters can only keep his cool when things are going well. The Chiefs need to go through a brief rebuild while they begin to bring Mahomes along and Peters isn't the type of guy you want on your team during that process.

The guy makes some big plays, but he gives up just as many as he makes and is a major liability in the run game. Having guys like Kelce, Hill, and Peters as the face of your franchise is not a good thing.

Hill is fine - Kelce is learning - Peters needs to go ASAP!

cooper barrett
12-06-2017, 01:37 AM
This guy makes Talib look like Joel Osteen. ****ing idiot - Get this ****a off of my team!

Joel Osteen ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

chiefzilla1501
12-06-2017, 05:26 AM
If someone would actually give the Chiefs a 1st or a high 2nd (bad team) then he is Mahatma G'one'di. He is uninspired, afraid of contact and teams aren't scared to go his way anymore. We do have a ton of issue on our D. Pass rush is one of them. You could rebuild with a 1 or high 2 and start the rookie clock over on an edge rusher or CB. Peters will not be a Chief in 2019... no way, his choice, unless we franchise him and that number would be quite high. I also highly doubt he is a real positive force in the locker room. Football is as much about talent as it is about cohesiveness. You need some talent, but it's hard to win without cohesiveness. This team does not appear to be very tight and I wouldn't be surprised if Peter's is one of the reasons. Time will tell, but it does not make sense to keep him for 1 more year... most likely a rebuilding year, then to start that rebuilding in this years draft with a top pick, or a trade that is Peters for a proven pass rusher.

Jfc. Afraid of contact, yes. Uninspired? That's horse shit. Bad teammate? Total horse shit. Not afraid to go to him? They still throw to Mitchell a lot. He is not the reason we have issues in the locker room. His teammates seem to like him.

As long as we run a secondary centric scheme he is a critical piece to the puzzle. If we get pass rush, Peters will be a pro bowler who doesn't like to tackle. They'll be afraid to throw his way again. If we start winning again, his attitude will be viewed as fuel. He needs to clean up some shit, but Holy shit people overreact about this stuff. I have seen this team without a true #1 cb and that was brutal brutal. Never again.

chiefzilla1501
12-06-2017, 05:49 AM
For those who ask about ne, putt, Seattle, etc.... Are you kidding me? Those guys love players with attitude. Joey porter and Harrison were complete powder kegs. The pats brought in guys like Blount, moss, Floyd... Lots of guys with a much bigger reputation for loafing. Seattle has some of the biggest loudmouths in the game.

We've been through Dwayne bowe, Larry Johnson, lots of good players who didn't play up to their potential and a lot worse. Never seen a good player outside of qb this hated. Let's face it, we want a team full of Midwest choir boys. Meanwhile our competitors want championships. It's sad that that's become the mentality of our fan base. He obviously has things we need to fix. I agree that I would think three times before giving him a huge contract. But those who want to trade him? I'll be cursing you all year when we watch some blowhard got torched play after play after play, and we spend the next 5 years wondering why our secondary sucks.

chiefzilla1501
12-06-2017, 05:56 AM
If we had Richard Sherman on a rookie contract we'd be running him out of town. I'm more and more convinced by that.

Mecca
12-06-2017, 06:10 AM
If we had Richard Sherman on a rookie contract we'd be running him out of town. I'm more and more convinced by that.

I agree with that, for some reason a huge portion of this fan base can not stand anyone who doesn't fit into this little box of what midwest attitudes should be.

And for that comment up there earlier about finding a pass rusher and a CB, without a 1 you're asking for a team to find the 2 hardest things to find on defense and replace it's best player..in 1 year without a 1st rounder, yea it's super fucking hard to do that.

And for the record, Marcus Peters loves Mahomes and isn't a big fan of Smith, just watch the preseason sideline if you want proof of that.

But hey who cares, run Peters out of town, get rid of any of the good players we have because you don't like their attitudes etc etc. Maybe we can play Daniel Sorenson at CB because even though he sucks you like him as a person.

At the end of the day, Marcus Peters is not my friend, or my pal we don't hang out. All I care about is his football playing ability. People need to get over this we need choir boys bullshit. This is like the Terrell Owens shit, that dude never got arrested or anything like that yet to many people who was the worst of the worst.

There is a disconnect between fans and players...mainly because most fans are middle aged white dudes and most players are young black guys. Stunning they don't relate to each other at all.

InChiefsHeaven
12-06-2017, 06:51 AM
I agree with that, for some reason a huge portion of this fan base can not stand anyone who doesn't fit into this little box of what midwest attitudes should be.

And for that comment up there earlier about finding a pass rusher and a CB, without a 1 you're asking for a team to find the 2 hardest things to find on defense and replace it's best player..in 1 year without a 1st rounder, yea it's super ****ing hard to do that.

And for the record, Marcus Peters loves Mahomes and isn't a big fan of Smith, just watch the preseason sideline if you want proof of that.

But hey who cares, run Peters out of town, get rid of any of the good players we have because you don't like their attitudes etc etc. Maybe we can play Daniel Sorenson at CB because even though he sucks you like him as a person.

At the end of the day, Marcus Peters is not my friend, or my pal we don't hang out. All I care about is his football playing ability. People need to get over this we need choir boys bullshit. This is like the Terrell Owens shit, that dude never got arrested or anything like that yet to many people who was the worst of the worst.

There is a disconnect between fans and players...mainly because most fans are middle aged white dudes and most players are young black guys. Stunning they don't relate to each other at all.

For me it's not just his "attitude". It's the FACT that the dude WILL NOT TACKLE, he hasn't done jack for us this year. (See the unexplainable wiff on the interception in the Bills game...for a dude who is supposed to be a ball hawk...) Add to that the "attitude" (not just throwing flags, but his general demeanour) he just does not seem to actually care. Quitting on the team the other day and up and leaving the field without having been told to do so...he's just a ****ing idiot.
Honestly, how much worse would this team be without him? He's living on last years rep, he's done nothing this season except piss people off.
Actually, on second thought, his attitude does have a lot to do with it. But I don't think that's unfounded.

Otter
12-06-2017, 07:19 AM
I agree with that, for some reason a huge portion of this fan base can not stand anyone who doesn't fit into this little box of what midwest attitudes should be.

And for that comment up there earlier about finding a pass rusher and a CB, without a 1 you're asking for a team to find the 2 hardest things to find on defense and replace it's best player..in 1 year without a 1st rounder, yea it's super fucking hard to do that.

And for the record, Marcus Peters loves Mahomes and isn't a big fan of Smith, just watch the preseason sideline if you want proof of that.

But hey who cares, run Peters out of town, get rid of any of the good players we have because you don't like their attitudes etc etc. Maybe we can play Daniel Sorenson at CB because even though he sucks you like him as a person.

At the end of the day, Marcus Peters is not my friend, or my pal we don't hang out. All I care about is his football playing ability. People need to get over this we need choir boys bullshit. This is like the Terrell Owens shit, that dude never got arrested or anything like that yet to many people who was the worst of the worst.

There is a disconnect between fans and players...mainly because most fans are middle aged white dudes and most players are young black guys. Stunning they don't relate to each other at all.

Didn't know Washington was the mid-west. I may have to take an online geography lesson.

Washington boots CB Marcus Peters after reported dispute with coaches (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/washington-boots-cb-marcus-peters-after-reported-dispute-with-coaches/)

Marcus Peters’ dismissal from UW football team latest disciplinary development for Chris Petersen (https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/marcus-petersrsquo-dismissal-from-uw-football-team-latest-disciplinary-development-for-chris-petersen/)

You can look up on your own how many UW fans disliked Peters. It's mostly on UW related message boards so it's more difficult to find and I don't have the time.

I'll bet maybe 3% of them were from the mid-west. Once again, I know it doesn't fit your narrative so it will probably be ignored but everyone I watch games with doesn't like Peters and none of us are from the mid-west.

IT ISN"T A MID-WEST THING, it's the fact the guy is an asshole with yellow teeth that can't tackle. Yes, even his yellow teeth can't tackle.

But if it makes you feel better by all means, blame mid-west mentality on the animosity towards Peters instead of his caustic personality.

I'll agree with the disconnect between football players and fans but the UW fans that disliked him so much were college kids, his own age, not from the mid-west and not middle aged white guys. Deal with it.

ILChief
12-06-2017, 07:31 AM
Of all the problems with this team, I'm surprised Peters is the one people want to run out of town.

Rasputin
12-06-2017, 07:45 AM
Of all the problems with this team, I'm surprised Peters is the one people want to run out of town.

I'm ready to roll Andy Reid out of town.

Mecca
12-06-2017, 07:49 AM
For me it's not just his "attitude". It's the FACT that the dude WILL NOT TACKLE, he hasn't done jack for us this year. (See the unexplainable wiff on the interception in the Bills game...for a dude who is supposed to be a ball hawk...) Add to that the "attitude" (not just throwing flags, but his general demeanour) he just does not seem to actually care. Quitting on the team the other day and up and leaving the field without having been told to do so...he's just a ****ing idiot.
Honestly, how much worse would this team be without him? He's living on last years rep, he's done nothing this season except piss people off.
Actually, on second thought, his attitude does have a lot to do with it. But I don't think that's unfounded.

You do realize maybe 5% of corners are good tacklers right? The tackling thing is overblown there are guys in the HOF that didn't tackle at that position. And if you don't think they'll be any worse that's being obtuse. Teams are beating the Chiefs by torching the second CB. You want that guy at 1? Get ready to give up 500 yards of offense a game.

Seriously of all the issues I've seen this year Marcus Peters doesn't even crack the top 10.

redfan
12-06-2017, 08:02 AM
I boldly predict the Chiefs will keep him as a starter.

PAChiefsGuy
12-06-2017, 08:10 AM
You do realize maybe 5% of corners are good tacklers right? The tackling thing is overblown there are guys in the HOF that didn't tackle at that position. And if you don't think they'll be any worse that's being obtuse. Teams are beating the Chiefs by torching the second CB. You want that guy at 1? Get ready to give up 500 yards of offense a game.

Seriously of all the issues I've seen this year Marcus Peters doesn't even crack the top 10.

When a pretty boy like Tony Romo says Marcus Peters tackling makes Deion Sanders tacking look good then yeah, it's an issue. He sucks at it even for a CB..

kcxiv
12-06-2017, 08:12 AM
When a pretty boy like Tony Romo says Marcus Peters tackling makes Deion Sanders tacking look good then yeah, it's an issue. He sucks at it even for a CB..

and yet, they are barely throwing at him.

PAChiefsGuy
12-06-2017, 08:19 AM
and yet, they are barely throwing at him.

Not true. His play this year has fallen off.

Right now, Pro Football Focus has Peters ranked as the No. 39 cornerback in the NFL. In addition, PFF has tracked Peters over the last three games and the results have not been pleasant: 14 of 17 passes completed for 190 receiving yards and 1 touchdown. That equals a 116.3 passer rating.

The analysts at PFF aren’t the only ones who have noticed that Peters isn’t turning in a repeat performance of last year. Ike Taylor’s regular cornerback rankings over at NFL.com don’t even mention Peters at all, a weird reality given that Peters was top dog (or near it) on most such lists coming into this season.

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/12/01/what-happened-marcus-peters-struggling-kansas-city-chiefs/

Mecca
12-06-2017, 08:23 AM
It's stunning that his downfall in play directly relates to the front 7 becoming garbage. Man no one could see that coming...

PAChiefsGuy
12-06-2017, 08:29 AM
It's stunning that his downfall in play directly relates to the front 7 becoming garbage. Man no one could see that coming...

A Marcus Peters apologist... I've seen it all on here now.

InChiefsHeaven
12-06-2017, 09:18 AM
Not true. His play this year has fallen off.

Right now, Pro Football Focus has Peters ranked as the No. 39 cornerback in the NFL. In addition, PFF has tracked Peters over the last three games and the results have not been pleasant: 14 of 17 passes completed for 190 receiving yards and 1 touchdown. That equals a 116.3 passer rating.

The analysts at PFF aren’t the only ones who have noticed that Peters isn’t turning in a repeat performance of last year. Ike Taylor’s regular cornerback rankings over at NFL.com don’t even mention Peters at all, a weird reality given that Peters was top dog (or near it) on most such lists coming into this season.

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/12/01/what-happened-marcus-peters-struggling-kansas-city-chiefs/
I'm telling you, the Peters people on here are still thinking it's 2016. He has not done much at all this year. Yes the whole defense has slid way back...including Peters.

PAChiefsGuy
12-06-2017, 09:22 AM
This play by Marcus Peters pretty much sums up our defense's season

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s a bullet dodged by Tyrod. Somehow Marcus Peters doesn&#39;t grab it but Charles Clay does. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/lMBM5TOHj0">pic.twitter.com/lMBM5TOHj0</a></p>&mdash; Nick Wojton (@Nick_Wojton) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nick_Wojton/status/934874442777448448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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