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Hammock Parties
12-11-2017, 10:24 PM
Also McNabb and Sapp.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking news from <a href="https://twitter.com/soshnick?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@soshnick</a> below. The NFL Network confirms to <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SInow</a> that Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor, and Heath Evans have been suspended from their duties at the NFL Network. <a href="https://t.co/UE6pzvekeW">pic.twitter.com/UE6pzvekeW</a></p>&mdash; Richard Deitsch (@richarddeitsch) <a href="https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/940436399714598912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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TLO
12-11-2017, 10:26 PM
Here we go..

Rain Man
12-11-2017, 10:27 PM
At some point I wonder when allegations are going to become weaponized. Want someone's job? Just accuse them.

I'm not saying this isn't a legitimate complaint, and it wouldn't be shocking at all if a bunch of football players become uncivilized in a group, but I do worry about weaponizing this phenomenon.

Hammock Parties
12-11-2017, 10:28 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-12/nfl-harassment-suit-alleges-groping-by-top-executive-ex-players


A former executive producer at the National Football League’s TV network and ex-players including Marshall Faulk and Heath Evans allegedly groped and made sexually explicit comments to female colleague Jami Cantor, according to an amended complaint by Cantor, a former employee.

Cantor, a wardrobe stylist at the NFL Network, said Weinberger sent “several nude pictures of himself and sexually explicit texts” and told her she was “put on earth to pleasure me.” He also pressed his crotch against Cantor’s shoulder and asked her to touch it, according to the complaint.

She said she was also sexually harassed by on-air talent. Faulk, who’s an NFL Network analyst, would ask Cantor “deeply personal and invasive questions” about her sex life and fondled her breasts and groped her behind, according to the complaint.

Ike Taylor, also an analyst, sent Cantor “sexually inappropriate” pictures of himself and a video of him masturbating in the shower, according to the filing. Donovan McNabb, a former analyst, also texted her explicit comments, according to the compliant.

Red Dawg
12-11-2017, 10:28 PM
Hahaha woman can say anything. I can't stand Evans. Hes nothing but a Pat's loving meat head.

Flying High D
12-11-2017, 10:28 PM
Maybe they were doing it to each other.




Locker room banter.

New World Order
12-11-2017, 10:30 PM
Even Donovan Mcnabb

Hammock Parties
12-11-2017, 10:30 PM
Hahaha woman can say anything. I can't stand Evans. Hes nothing but a Pat's loving meat head.

Just wait til you see Ike Taylor's dong.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 10:33 PM
So everyone at NFLN?

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 10:33 PM
Hahaha woman can say anything. I can't stand Evans. Hes nothing but a Pat's loving meat head.

I love Pats meat head too.

Oh you mean the Patriots.

RunKC
12-11-2017, 10:34 PM
Just wait til you see Ike Taylor's dong.

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Hammock Parties
12-11-2017, 10:35 PM
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POND_OF_RED
12-11-2017, 10:43 PM
Why is Eric Weinberger the only one tagged? Is it because Scott Soshnick is afraid of the NFL players, or is Eric the accuser?

wazu
12-11-2017, 10:44 PM
So everyone at NFLN?

Just please not Rich Eisen. Or Kurt Warner.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-11-2017, 10:47 PM
Money grab?

Hog's Gone Fishin
12-11-2017, 10:50 PM
This is just stupid, I'm starting to understand why the Middle East has shut their bitches down. I mean hell, what else are women for except cleaning fish and digging for worms.

DJ's left nut
12-11-2017, 10:52 PM
At some point I wonder when allegations are going to become weaponized. Want someone's job? Just accuse them.

I'm not saying this isn't a legitimate complaint, and it wouldn't be shocking at all if a bunch of football players become uncivilized in a group, but I do worry about weaponizing this phenomenon.

When?

Brotha, I don't know where that line was, but we're well past it.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 10:53 PM
Just please not Rich Eisen. Or Kurt Warner.

I would hope neither one. Warner has a lovely wife, and Eisen has built his entire name off NFLN.

When everyone is accused at the same time, I smell a money grab from some bitch who's pissed at the company itself.

Especially ex employee.

An ex Target employee murdered and lived in my grandmothers home for days in Kansas City after shooting in the mall as well that same day. Remember the ward parkway mall shooting? He was angry that he was fired and he took it out on my older grandmother a decade ago. People do psychotic shit.

IowaHawkeyeChief
12-11-2017, 11:01 PM
Pics don't lie...

pugsnotdrugs19
12-11-2017, 11:02 PM
This stuff is getting so out of hand. I'm sure some of them are actually harassed and victimized, but the problem nowadays is everyone is guilty until proven innocent, and not innocent until proven guilty.

wazu
12-11-2017, 11:03 PM
Don't get all of the assumptions that it's bullshit. Seems to me that with the majority of these accusations, we end up hearing an apology or acknowledgment of some kind. She's even claiming she was sent nude pics from one, which would seem to be easily verifiable.

pugsnotdrugs19
12-11-2017, 11:07 PM
Don't get all of the assumptions that it's bullshit. Seems to me that with the majority of these accusations, we end up hearing an apology or acknowledgment of some kind. She's even claiming she was sent nude pics from one, which would seem to be easily verifiable.

It might very well be true, but I just get kinda annoyed and pissed off with the fact that they wait until now to say something. Now that they know there will be serious attention paid, and money to be made, everyone wants to come out with their story.

My view is, if it wasn't bad enough to get you to complain in the first place, shut the fuck up. For all we know, the woman didn't mind it at the time but decided to make it seem that way now due to all of the press she knows it would receive.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-11-2017, 11:09 PM
I understand withholding judgment until more information is in and not assuming that these guys are automatically guilty. At the same time, don't assume that the accuser is lying simply because more of this is becoming known. Generally, these dams break, they don't leak. Look at what happened with the Catholic Church. The volume of accusations was phenomenal, but they were also true. Just because they exploded in quick fashion doesn't make it false and/or a money grab.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 11:10 PM
It might very well be true, but I just get kinda annoyed and pissed off with the fact that they wait until now to say something. Now that they know there will be serious attention paid, and money to be made, everyone wants to come out with their story.

My view is, if it wasn't bad enough to get you to complain in the first place, shut the **** up. For all we know, the woman didn't mind it at the time but decided to make it seem that way now due to all of the press she knows it would receive.

This is what happens with these cases. She liked the attention at the time, but now that she's gone, oh my I can take down these former NFL players.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-11-2017, 11:12 PM
This is what happens with these cases. She liked the attention at the time, but now that she's gone, oh my I can take down these former NFL players.

And you know this...how?

pugsnotdrugs19
12-11-2017, 11:13 PM
This is what happens with these cases. She liked the attention at the time, but now that she's gone, oh my I can take down these former NFL players.

That's what this one smells like. I don't think all of these cases are like that, especially the Weinstein/Hollywood stuff. But this story smells a lot like a form of bitter revenge.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 11:14 PM
And you know this...how?

Because this shit happens all the time. Just because someone is accused of something doesn't mean I should believe it.

Rain Man
12-11-2017, 11:14 PM
Question: do you only send penis pictures if you have a large penis? Or can anyone do it? I'm curious why someone would send a penis picture, even if it's requested.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 11:15 PM
Question: do you only send penis pictures if you have a large penis? Or can anyone do it? I'm curious why someone would send a penis picture, even if it's requested.

Geno Smith did it and I have a bigger dick than him. Same for Brett Favre.

Yet Teddy Bridgewater has never been caught sending a dick pic.

RunKC
12-11-2017, 11:16 PM
Ike Taylor, also an analyst, sent Cantor “sexually inappropriate” pictures of himself and a video of him masturbating in the shower, according to the filing. Donovan McNabb, a former analyst, also texted her explicit comments, according to the compliant.


This lady probably has the text history saved. They'll know if she is going or not by reading it.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-11-2017, 11:16 PM
Because this shit happens all the time. Just because someone is accused of something doesn't mean I should believe it.

And do you have statistics on how often these accusations are falsified? No one is saying that you have to believe it, but you've taken the opposite approach of automatically assuming that it's false, so you're really no different than someone immediately running out with a pitchfork, your reaction is just in the opposite direction.

Rain Man
12-11-2017, 11:20 PM
Geno Smith did it and I have a bigger dick than him. Same for Brett Favre.

Yet Teddy Bridgewater has never been caught sending a dick pic.

Hammock Parties has always maintained that Geno Smith was built like an equine. No?

Personally, I would never send such a picture. It would serve no purpose other than to frighten the woman.

POND_OF_RED
12-11-2017, 11:20 PM
It might very well be true, but I just get kinda annoyed and pissed off with the fact that they wait until now to say something. Now that they know there will be serious attention paid, and money to be made, everyone wants to come out with their story.

My view is, if it wasn't bad enough to get you to complain in the first place, shut the **** up. For all we know, the woman didn't mind it at the time but decided to make it seem that way now due to all of the press she knows it would receive.

I think most women are coming forward now because they are seeing things done now. I don't blame any woman for not having the confidence right away to come forward and accuse the people she likely works for. It seems like a pretty delicate situation.

BlackOp
12-11-2017, 11:21 PM
Karma...it waits until the proper time to strike. Eye in the ethereal sky doesn't forget...

The digital age is going to hang a lot of douchebags out to dry.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 11:21 PM
And do you have statistics on how often these accusations are falsified? No one is saying that you have to believe it, but you've taken the opposite approach of automatically assuming that it's false, so you're really no different than someone immediately running out with a pitchfork, your reaction is just in the opposite direction.

I'm neutral towards it. The story is a woman accused 6 or so men from her former employment at NFLN of sexual harassment.

I don't believe her until I see proof of the whole staff doing the things she'll be claiming. It's words. No physical proof that I've seen yet.

Although, knowing Warren Sapp the way we do, if he's indeed involved in it, then I'm not surprised. He's had that kind of past.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 11:22 PM
Hammock Parties has always maintained that Geno Smith was built like an equine. No?

Personally, I would never send such a picture. It would serve no purpose other than to frighten the woman.

Geno? No, his ChocoPenii is nothing to be overly proud of.

But Teddy... Now that's a dragon.

pugsnotdrugs19
12-11-2017, 11:23 PM
I think most women are coming forward now because they are seeing things done now. I don't blame any woman for not having the confidence right away to come forward and accuse the people she likely works for. It seems like a pretty delicate situation.

I suppose it's possible. I actually think what she said is probably all true, I just question how she felt about it at the time. That's an awful lot of dudes targeting this woman sexually within one work place. If she was spooked by it very much or really didn't like it, I feel like they wouldn't all be so aggressive with her.

Guess time will tell.

BlackOp
12-11-2017, 11:30 PM
I suppose it's possible. I actually think what she said is probably all true, I just question how she felt about it at the time. That's an awful lot of dudes targeting this woman sexually within one work place. If she was spooked by it very much or really didn't like it, I feel like they wouldn't all be so aggressive with her.

Guess time will tell.

Except this one place employs a lot of ex-sporto meatheads with inflated egos...Ike/Evans arent exactly enlightened human beings. I believe the allegations...just an extension of when Manning ran his balls across that woman's face then ruined her career.

Give dumb people power...and you'll see why they shouldn't have it.

dj56dt58
12-11-2017, 11:30 PM
I suppose it's possible. I actually think what she said is probably all true, I just question how she felt about it at the time. That's an awful lot of dudes targeting this woman sexually within one work place. If she was spooked by it very much or really didn't like it, I feel like they wouldn't all be so aggressive with her.

Guess time will tell.

Yeah sounds like some dumb slut wanting to play victim..otherwise why wait all this time

BlackOp
12-11-2017, 11:38 PM
Yeah sounds like some dumb slut wanting to play victim..otherwise why wait all this time

Umm...career suicide? The internet has become a vehicle for public reach that didn't exist before.

I would have feared being blacklisted, too, if I were her...

Titty Meat
12-11-2017, 11:39 PM
I bet Taylor has some strong veiny arms with a nicely defined chest and core. His cock is probably as thick as most CP members arms while surprisingly under 7 inches.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 11:42 PM
I bet Taylor has some strong veiny arms with a nicely defined chest and core. His cock is probably as thick as most CP members arms while surprisingly under 7 inches.

Mecca used to go around bragging about his thick but not long schlong. Ah those good old days.

I once ran into in him on an NFL chat on AIM, and he said nobody here liked him, and that's why he began to only show up occasionally.

BryanBusby
12-11-2017, 11:44 PM
Yeah sounds like some dumb slut wanting to play victim..otherwise why wait all this time
Totes man, what a dumb cunt I tell you what

carcosa
12-11-2017, 11:45 PM
Don't get all of the assumptions that it's bullshit. Seems to me that with the majority of these accusations, we end up hearing an apology or acknowledgment of some kind. She's even claiming she was sent nude pics from one, which would seem to be easily verifiable.

Ok but what if I just really hate women, what about that

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 11:49 PM
I could see Ike Taylor missing some of the throw themselves at you glory days girls, and then trying to find a girl at NFLN who was DTF, but that's typical. If ALLLL those guys who work there were trying to get it in her, that means she was also giving off some major flirty vibes. I just don't buy it until I hear more. I'd be willing to bet somebody did something, but not everyone who was listed.

Titty Meat
12-11-2017, 11:50 PM
Mecca used to go around bragging about his thick but not long schlong. Ah those good old days.

I once ran into in him on an NFL chat on AIM, and he said nobody here liked him, and that's why he began to only show up occasionally.

My only issue with him was sometimes he typed like a valley girl.

KCrockaholic
12-11-2017, 11:54 PM
My only issue with him was sometimes he typed like a valley girl.

My only problem with him is he wasn't nearly as good of a scout as he thought he was. "Brian Okrapo". "Tamba Hali would never work in a 3-4".

I'm sorry, I shouldn't be making fun of him unless he's here.

Buehler445
12-12-2017, 12:03 AM
I would hope neither one. Warner has a lovely wife, and Eisen has built his entire name off NFLN.

When everyone is accused at the same time, I smell a money grab from some bitch who's pissed at the company itself.

Especially ex employee.

An ex Target employee murdered and lived in my grandmothers home for days in Kansas City after shooting in the mall as well that same day. Remember the ward parkway mall shooting? He was angry that he was fired and he took it out on my older grandmother a decade ago. People do psychotic shit.

Holy shit. Are you serious? That’s terrible. That’s got to be a bitch to deal with.

KCrockaholic
12-12-2017, 12:08 AM
Holy shit. Are you serious? That’s terrible. That’s got to be a bitch to deal with.

If you're referring to the story about my Gma, yes. And it was insane to have to go to the house after everything happened and still see blood stains and that smell everywhere. The authorities left it to my family to clean up the mess in that house. It was disgusting. It's more of my grandfather that I felt horrible for. He's a great man and never deserved to have to go through that.

The entire scene at the house was disturbing. You could see where she was killed in the kitchen as well as where he liked to hang out and smoke and drink his beers he left behind after he'd broken in and stayed for 3 days.

Buehler445
12-12-2017, 12:14 AM
If you're referring to the story about my Gma, yes. And it was insane to have to go to the house after everything happened and still see blood stains and that smell everywhere. The authorities left it to my family to clean up the mess in that house. It was disgusting. It's more of my grandfather that I felt horrible for. He's a great man and never deserved to have to go through that.

The entire scene at the house was disturbing. You could see where she was killed in the kitchen as well as where he liked to hang out and smoke and drink his beers he left behind after he'd broken in and stayed for 3 days.

Goddamn. That’s terrible. Where was your grandpa when all this happened?

KCrockaholic
12-12-2017, 12:25 AM
Goddamn. That’s terrible. Where was your grandpa when all this happened?

Living separated. She lived alone, and the man who did this was her next door neighbor and he knew that fact before he did everything. He was shot to death by police I believe. It's been a while, but if you google "kansas city mall shooting 2007" then you can read any details about his incident at the mall. I just so happen to know the full backstory which wasn't really reported very well by news outlets.

TimBone
12-12-2017, 02:11 AM
Geno Smith did it and I have a bigger dick than him. Same for Brett Favre.

Yet Teddy Bridgewater has never been caught sending a dick pic.Geno? No, his ChocoPenii is nothing to be overly proud of.

But Teddy... Now that's a dragon.How do you even know this about Bridgewater? [emoji23][emoji23]

RobBlake
12-12-2017, 03:02 AM
Who wants to put money she was game to flirt with prestigious men and then had a moral dilemma and decided it wasn’t right? Anyone who has been with a woman’s nd is a decent guy understands the rollercoaster.. and that person loves you

RINGLEADER
12-12-2017, 03:51 AM
Not commenting on whether her story is true or not but she seems to have been the focal point for damn near everyone working at the place. Kind of kooky that so many men would think the same woman wants to see their junk...

ping2000
12-12-2017, 04:33 AM
Public service announcement: Do not take pictures of your dick. Do not send anyone pictures of your dick. No one wants pictures of your dick.

Marcellus
12-12-2017, 04:43 AM
Sure does seem like everyone had her cell phone number. I guess you never know when you might have a wardrobe emergency.

Gravedigger
12-12-2017, 05:18 AM
If these guys were innocent they would've come out and defended their name. If I was accused of this stuff and fired/sued because of it I would fight the hell out of it.

loochy
12-12-2017, 05:59 AM
If these guys were innocent they would've come out and defended their name. If I was accused of this stuff and fired/sued because of it I would fight the hell out of it.

Like Zeke Elliott? Everyone thinks he's guilty anyway.

loochy
12-12-2017, 06:00 AM
This just in:

Everyone in the world accused of harassment

HemiEd
12-12-2017, 06:53 AM
Sure does seem like everyone had her cell phone number. I guess you never know when you might have a wardrobe emergency.

:hmmm:

farmerchief
12-12-2017, 06:56 AM
Public service announcement: Do not take pictures of your dick. Do not send anyone pictures of your dick. No one wants pictures of your dick.
Id probably have to send a picture of someone elses dick to get any affirmative action!!

Hammock Parties
12-12-2017, 06:58 AM
Really?

These guys sacrificed their careers for her?

I mean she isn't unattractive...but there have to be dozens of better looking women at that studio alone.

alpha_omega
12-12-2017, 07:05 AM
Kudos to her for helping us get rid of Evans, that guy is awful on TV.

sully1983
12-12-2017, 08:43 AM
just waiting for Screamin A Smith to get the axe some day .

Buehler445
12-12-2017, 08:55 AM
Really?

These guys sacrificed their careers for her?

I mean she isn't unattractive...but there have to be dozens of better looking women at that studio alone.

That gal in the picture is the one they were trying to bone?

She must fuck like absolute fox. There is no other explanation.

Al Bundy
12-12-2017, 08:58 AM
That gal in the picture is the one they were trying to bone?

She must fuck like absolute fox. There is no other explanation.

Do I sense a Russian accent there?

siberian khatru
12-12-2017, 09:05 AM
Jami Cantor: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know (http://heavy.com/sports/2017/12/jami-cantor-nfl-network-sexual-harassment-weinberger-faulk/)




Cantor alleges that Faulk, the former running back for the St. Louis Rams, asked her “deeply personal and invasive questions” about her sex life on numerous occasions. She claims that Faulk asked her what her favorite sex position was, whether she was into oral sex and if she dated black men. She also accused Faulk in the lawsuit of fondling her breasts and groping her butt.

“Instead of saying good morning, Mr. Faulk greeted (Cantor) by fondling her breasts and groping her behind,” the lasuire said. “As time went on, Mr. Faulk became more aggressive, such as inviting (Cantor) to his hotel room, stroking and pulling out his genitals in front of her, pointing to his crotch and asking Plaintiff, ‘when are you gonna get on this already?'” the lawsuit said. “He also pinned (Cantor) against a wall, demanding oral sex while he pulled his pants down.”

She said in her lawsuit that Evans made several comments to her, including him saying that he “needed to get in (Cantor) deep and hard.”

She said that Davis said various other sexually-explicit comments, including things like: “I want you so bad,” “my cock is so hard because of you right now” and “you look like you would be an animal in the sheets.”

“I can’t handle your (butt), it is so luscious,” Cantor claimed that a text message sent to her from Davis said.

Cantor said that on at least one occasion, Davis said that he wanted to “choke” her from behind until she “begged him to stop.”

McNabb, who most notably played quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, is accused in the suit of texting her explicit comments. Those include him allegedly asking her if she “was a squirter” and asking her to “CUM to dinner with him,” among other things.

Sapp, who played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and was fired from the network for soliciting a prostitute in 2015, is accused of coming into the bathroom as Cantor was preparing a wardrobe and urinating in front of her despite her telling him to get out. According to the lawsuit, Sapp replied to Cantor: “Sorry mama, but your office shouldn’t be our shitter.”

Hammock Parties
12-12-2017, 09:08 AM
Personally, I would never send such a picture. It would serve no purpose other than to frighten the woman.

Send a picture? I can't even take one. My unit won't fit in the lens on most smartphones.

Al Bundy
12-12-2017, 09:09 AM
McNabb, who most notably played quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, is accused in the suit of texting her explicit comments. Those include him allegedly asking her if she “was a squirter” and asking her to “CUM to dinner with him,” among other things.

Good gravy.

Al Bundy
12-12-2017, 09:10 AM
Sapp, who played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and was fired from the network for soliciting a prostitute in 2015, is accused of coming into the bathroom as Cantor was preparing a wardrobe and urinating in front of her despite her telling him to get out. According to the lawsuit, Sapp replied to Cantor: “Sorry mama, but your office shouldn’t be our shitter.”
He isn't wrong.

ChiliConCarnage
12-12-2017, 09:12 AM
Who would have put odds on the Sapp offense being the most reasonable? :)

lawrenceRaider
12-12-2017, 09:14 AM
Hammock Parties has always maintained that Geno Smith was built like an equine. No?

Personally, I would never send such a picture. It would serve no purpose other than to make the woman laugh hysterically.

FYP dude.

Buehler445
12-12-2017, 09:14 AM
ROFL

I had better game than that in the 6th grade.

Frazod
12-12-2017, 09:15 AM
:hmmm:

Yeah, nothing says Gotta Have It like gaunt with short blonde hair and a Skeletor smile. :spock:

And what the hell is she wearing in the picture? Looks like overalls with a strap undone under a blazer.

CoMoChief
12-12-2017, 09:16 AM
Who would have put odds on the Sapp offense being the most reasonable? :)

ROFL no shit

Marcellus
12-12-2017, 09:20 AM
I guess I just missed the memo that taking dick pics and sending them to women who apparently aren't interested woudl possibly change their mind.


Do some guys not realize women get to see all the dicks they want to see whenever they want? All they have to do is basically ask. This isn't exactly providing a service they are in desperate need of.

sully1983
12-12-2017, 09:21 AM
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"where da white women at?!"

KCUnited
12-12-2017, 09:35 AM
McNabb, who most notably played quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, is accused in the suit of texting her explicit comments. Those include him allegedly asking her if she “was a squirter” and asking her to “CUM to dinner with him,” among other things.

Good gravy.

ROFL

vailpass
12-12-2017, 09:36 AM
Sure does seem like everyone had her cell phone number. I guess you never know when you might have a wardrobe emergency.

^

Slut gonna' slut. These guys opened themselves up to being at her mercy the minuted she got pissed off, especially in the current climate.
'll be glad when this phase passes.

PAChiefsGuy
12-12-2017, 09:46 AM
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/untitled7.jpg

Pic of chick making accusations.

wazu
12-12-2017, 10:18 AM
Sure does seem like everyone had her cell phone number. I guess you never know when you might have a wardrobe emergency.

Seriously? These are people who travel as part of their job, and no doubt have plenty of legit needs to communicate/coordinate outside of just seeing each other in the studio.

thegame214
12-12-2017, 10:27 AM
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/untitled7.jpg

Pic of chick making accusations.

America: guilty until proven innocent


Ike Taylor fucked himself though. Literally

Bowser
12-12-2017, 10:31 AM
Just wait til you see Ike Taylor's dong.

The apparent fact that you have knowledge of Taylor's equipment is almost as distrurbing as knowing ThaVirus watches videos of William H. Macy dancing around with his oversized crank flopping around everywhere on Reddit.

Frazod
12-12-2017, 10:32 AM
Soon it's going to get to the point where legitimate gold diggers who want their pussies grabbed are going to have to wear special badges.

gblowfish
12-12-2017, 10:44 AM
Ike Turner?

TribalElder
12-12-2017, 11:06 AM
Didn't joe buck sexually harass anyone, we should pull him from all commentary just in case

gblowfish
12-12-2017, 11:20 AM
I wonder why these Roided up Ex Jocks, who had women throwing themselves at them for years, would go after the hairdresser when the sideline chicks are ten times as hot?

Rain Man
12-12-2017, 11:22 AM
Didn't joe buck sexually harass anyone, we should pull him from all commentary just in case

This is a really good idea. Can we get an investigation of Howie Long over on Fox?

MahiMike
12-12-2017, 11:22 AM
At some point I wonder when allegations are going to become weaponized. Want someone's job? Just accuse them.

I'm not saying this isn't a legitimate complaint, and it wouldn't be shocking at all if a bunch of football players become uncivilized in a group, but I do worry about weaponizing this phenomenon.

We're already there. I can't believe guys are actually quitting over this stuff. If I was Al Franken or the like, I'd just admit coming on to her and say 'whatdya want from me? I'm a guy? Thought she might like it...'.

Rain Man
12-12-2017, 11:26 AM
We're already there. I can't believe guys are actually quitting over this stuff. If I was Al Franken or the like, I'd just admit coming on to her and say 'whatdya want from me? I'm a guy? Thought she might like it...'.

Purely from a self-interest perspective, I've never understood why people resign in those situations. Resigning gives away all of your power to control the story. Franken resigns while Roy Moore just ignores everything, and guess who ends up in the better situation?

pugsnotdrugs19
12-12-2017, 11:44 AM
I wonder why these Roided up Ex Jocks, who had women throwing themselves at them for years, would go after the hairdresser when the sideline chicks are ten times as hot?

Yup... we'll see where this goes but this sounds fishy.

I saw the accuser's instagram, which only has a profile photo and one post (a picture of a dog). The profile photo screams 'crazy bitch'.

Rain Man
12-12-2017, 11:48 AM
I wonder why these Roided up Ex Jocks, who had women throwing themselves at them for years, would go after the hairdresser when the sideline chicks are ten times as hot?

Maybe they just go after every woman.

Bowser
12-12-2017, 11:49 AM
Didn't joe buck sexually harass anyone, we should pull him from all commentary just in case

Only Baumgarner, and they both just called it foreplay anyway.

SuperBowl4
12-12-2017, 11:52 AM
I think all this is a lead up to getting TRUMP out of office for the same accusations. Conditioning the masses.

gblowfish
12-12-2017, 11:58 AM
One of the band names my pals considered at one time was "Ike, That Hurts." Probably not a good pick now.

Detoxing
12-12-2017, 12:00 PM
I think all this is a lead up to getting TRUMP out of office for the same accusations. Conditioning the masses.

Think long and hard about that...you have it backwards.

Hog's Gone Fishin
12-12-2017, 12:05 PM
Question: do you only send penis pictures if you have a large penis? Or can anyone do it? I'm curious why someone would send a penis picture, even if it's requested.

I always just enlarge the photo and put some object way back in the distance to distort things before I hit send.

Hog's Gone Fishin
12-12-2017, 12:08 PM
I think all this is a lead up to getting TRUMP out of office for the same accusations. Conditioning the masses.

Trump will pardon them all and call it a day.

KCrockaholic
12-12-2017, 12:09 PM
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/untitled7.jpg

Pic of chick making accusations.

They're innocent.

They wouldn't hit on an old skeletor Steven Tyler crazy bitch.

Fish
12-12-2017, 12:12 PM
LMAO....

Warren Sapp (former on-air talent) — Came into restroom while plaintiff was preparing clothes and urinated in front of her.

When she screamed at him to get out, Sapp said, “Sorry mama, but your office shouldn’t be our sh*tter.”

Sapp is also accused of giving the woman sex toys for Christmas 3 years in a row.

More details: http://dailysnark.com/details-sexual-harassment-made-former-nfl-players-nfl-network-employee/

Rain Man
12-12-2017, 12:21 PM
I was wondering why everyone is saying this woman is unattractive, and then I remembered that calling her attractive might get you included in the lawsuit. Savvy move, people. Savvy move.

Hammock Parties
12-12-2017, 12:23 PM
Fucking Sapp. LMAO

TLO
12-12-2017, 12:34 PM
LMAO....

Oh wow

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 12:35 PM
They're innocent.

They wouldn't hit on an old skeletor Steven Tyler crazy bitch.

:facepalm:

Typical Chiefsplanet: Blame the victim. Accuse the victim.

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 12:36 PM
There isn't a single lawyer, let alone, the NFL Network, that would suspend these men or take on her case without legitimate digital information.

And for those of you idiots blaming her for passing on her number to those men that she dresses, really?

Do you not have the cell phone number of any of your co-workers?

Pablo
12-12-2017, 12:37 PM
Well, maybe he meant the dildos to be hung as Christmas ornaments.

"Mom, why are there 3 double headed python dildos on the tree"?

Oh, you know Warren, he's always full of Christmas cheer.

KCUnited
12-12-2017, 12:40 PM
Sapp has a unique take on the jelly of the month club holiday gift.

The Franchise
12-12-2017, 12:42 PM
Well, maybe he meant the dildos to be hung as Christmas ornaments.

"Mom, why are there 3 double headed python dildos on the tree"?

Oh, you know Warren, he's always full of Christmas cheer.

I'd be more worried that my kid knows what a double headed python dildo is.

WhiteWhale
12-12-2017, 12:42 PM
I understand withholding judgment until more information is in and not assuming that these guys are automatically guilty. At the same time, don't assume that the accuser is lying simply because more of this is becoming known. Generally, these dams break, they don't leak. Look at what happened with the Catholic Church. The volume of accusations was phenomenal, but they were also true. Just because they exploded in quick fashion doesn't make it false and/or a money grab.

They didn't really explode in that quick of a fashion as far as accusations being made privately or publically.

People who talked about it were simply ostracized at worst or at best ignored. Remember the whole Sinead O'Conner SNL thing? That's why she was tearing up pictures of the Pope.

This seems a similar thing. People are just finally listening and reacting instead of the old head in the sand technique, which is bringing out more people.

It's actually horrifying to see how deep these termites are, and it's justifiably making people a bit unsure about where the line is. The reactions from the accussed I see frequently make me think the accusations are true.

I'm suspecting they've had other HR complaints about this regarding certain people and/or she still has the text messages. These suspensions were handed out quickly, and more could be coming.

TLO
12-12-2017, 12:51 PM
:facepalm:

Typical Chiefsplanet: Blame the victim. Accuse the victim.

*alleged victim

KCrockaholic
12-12-2017, 12:52 PM
:facepalm:

Typical Chiefsplanet: Blame the victim. Accuse the victim.

Did you see what she was wearing? She was just asking for it.

TLO
12-12-2017, 12:54 PM
I'd also pay good money to read Warren Sapp's text messages. They have to be a riot.

TLO
12-12-2017, 01:00 PM
http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-josh-freeman-will-be-an-mvp-candidate-warren-sapp-114-64-10.jpg

dtrain
12-12-2017, 01:56 PM
https://youtu.be/WvmIR-lNjU4

Not that good looking for all the trouble.

wazu
12-12-2017, 02:25 PM
There’s a reference in that “5 things” article about her career dating back to pre-90s. So presumably this all occurred to a woman in her 40s, now probably nearing 50.

Titty Meat
12-12-2017, 02:36 PM
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/untitled7.jpg

Pic of chick making accusations.

She's not the catch PT 4

dj56dt58
12-12-2017, 03:22 PM
:facepalm:

Typical Chiefsplanet: Blame the victim. Accuse the victim.
Typical Dane, guilty until proven innocent

There isn't a single lawyer, let alone, the NFL Network, that would suspend these men or take on her case without legitimate digital information.


ROFL You can't be serious

SAUTO
12-12-2017, 03:35 PM
Mecca used to go around bragging about his thick but not long schlong. Ah those good old days.

I once ran into in him on an NFL chat on AIM, and he said nobody here liked him, and that's why he began to only show up occasionally.

I liked Mecca.

scorpio
12-12-2017, 03:42 PM
I liked Mecca.

He was nice but his hair was offensive. Also didn't he try to pass off a porn star as his internet girlfriend?

raybec 4
12-12-2017, 03:44 PM
He was nice but his hair was offensive. Also didn't he try to pass off a porn star as his internet girlfriend?

I believe he did

gblowfish
12-12-2017, 03:49 PM
Sounds like a disgruntled employee trying to stick it to NFL Network after they whacked her. But if she still has the texts or the pictures, she wins.

Buehler445
12-12-2017, 03:51 PM
Do I sense a Russian accent there?

LOL

I can barely speak English, but it is because I'm a dumbass, not a dumbass Russian.

I liked Mecca.

He's rampaging in the Net Neutrality thread in the DC at the moment.

wazu
12-12-2017, 03:56 PM
He was nice but his hair was offensive. Also didn't he try to pass off a porn star as his internet girlfriend?

HAHAHA what?!

SAUTO
12-12-2017, 04:02 PM
HAHAHA what?!

Truth

stevieray
12-12-2017, 04:30 PM
Man, it feels real good to be happily married right about now.

Crazy out there.

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 04:57 PM
Typical Dane, guilty until proven innocent



ROFL You can't be serious

You might be the biggest dumbfuck on CP

saphojunkie
12-12-2017, 05:43 PM
Yup... we'll see where this goes but this sounds fishy.

I saw the accuser's instagram, which only has a profile photo and one post (a picture of a dog). The profile photo screams 'crazy bitch'.

Congratulations... you are a piece of shit.

KCrockaholic
12-12-2017, 05:45 PM
Why is he a piece of shit for not immediately believing in the accusations? I wouldn't be surprised if some of those guys did make sexual references towards her, but I also wouldn't be surprised if she egged it on and pretended to enjoy it.

saphojunkie
12-12-2017, 05:51 PM
Why is he a piece of shit for not immediately believing in the accusations? I wouldn't be surprised if some of those guys did make sexual references towards her, but I also wouldn't be surprised if she egged it on and pretended to enjoy it.

Congratulations, you are a bigger piece of shit.

Here's hoping you have a daughter, and one day she comes home to tell you that an entitled millionaire athlete who has never been told "no" his whole life raped her.

That way, you can set that lying bitch straight and tell her to stop making stuff up.

Because it is clear you don't believe women. Cuz they ain't victims, is they? Nope, they all just looking fer yer MONAY.

Fuck your own face, you soulless blight on the ass of humanity.

Chief Roundup
12-12-2017, 05:57 PM
It might very well be true, but I just get kinda annoyed and pissed off with the fact that they wait until now to say something. Now that they know there will be serious attention paid, and money to be made, everyone wants to come out with their story.

My view is, if it wasn't bad enough to get you to complain in the first place, shut the fuck up. For all we know, the woman didn't mind it at the time but decided to make it seem that way now due to all of the press she knows it would receive.

Do we know that she didn't file a complaint? Could that be part of the reason for her dismissal?
How long did it take for her to get an attorney and for said attorney to write up the complaint and get it filed?

Chief Roundup
12-12-2017, 06:04 PM
I could see Ike Taylor missing some of the throw themselves at you glory days girls, and then trying to find a girl at NFLN who was DTF, but that's typical. If ALLLL those guys who work there were trying to get it in her, that means she was also giving off some major flirty vibes. I just don't buy it until I hear more. I'd be willing to bet somebody did something, but not everyone who was listed.

It could have been just one guy started it and when she didn't immediately shut it down he bragged to the others and then they started doing it too.

Al Bundy
12-12-2017, 06:11 PM
Congratulations, you are a bigger piece of shit.

Here's hoping you have a daughter, and one day she comes home to tell you that an entitled millionaire athlete who has never been told "no" his whole life raped her.

That way, you can set that lying bitch straight and tell her to stop making stuff up.

Because it is clear you don't believe women. Cuz they ain't victims, is they? Nope, they all just looking fer yer MONAY.

Fuck your own face, you soulless blight on the ass of humanity.

You might be overreacting.

Easy 6
12-12-2017, 06:11 PM
Honest question... where does this all end, when is enough gonna be enough?

Entertainment, politics, sports are all being dragged into this maelstrom... every little slap on the ass, and sexually tinged remark is now seemingly grounds for the guillotine

Many cases surely have genuine merit, but this is reaching social retardation levels

Ragged Robin
12-12-2017, 06:15 PM
Let's see: ex old ass balding NFL jocks texting dick pics and harassing women in the workplace. Somehow I don't find that unbelievable at all and wouldn't be surprised if it's true :rolleyes:

Easy 6
12-12-2017, 06:19 PM
Why is he a piece of shit for not immediately believing in the accusations? I wouldn't be surprised if some of those guys did make sexual references towards her, but I also wouldn't be surprised if she egged it on and pretended to enjoy it.

You have just been a baller ass poster lately

Easy 6
12-12-2017, 06:22 PM
Congratulations, you are a bigger piece of shit.

Here's hoping you have a daughter, and one day she comes home to tell you that an entitled millionaire athlete who has never been told "no" his whole life raped her.

That way, you can set that lying bitch straight and tell her to stop making stuff up.

Because it is clear you don't believe women. Cuz they ain't victims, is they? Nope, they all just looking fer yer MONAY.

**** your own face, you soulless blight on the ass of humanity.

Says the guy who constantly harrased a man dying from cancer with snide little neg reps... eat shit, hypocrite

Chief Roundup
12-12-2017, 06:33 PM
I wonder why these Roided up Ex Jocks, who had women throwing themselves at them for years, would go after the hairdresser when the sideline chicks are ten times as hot?

Because women like those have been there done that and realize those jocks are jokes of men.

Chief Roundup
12-12-2017, 06:38 PM
Honest question... where does this all end, when is enough gonna be enough?

Entertainment, politics, sports are all being dragged into this maelstrom... every little slap on the ass, and sexually tinged remark is now seemingly grounds for the guillotine

Many cases surely have genuine merit, but this is reaching social retardation levels

It will be enough when people don't act that way in the work place.

vailpass
12-12-2017, 06:38 PM
Congratulations, you are a bigger piece of shit.

Here's hoping you have a daughter, and one day she comes home to tell you that an entitled millionaire athlete who has never been told "no" his whole life raped her.

That way, you can set that lying bitch straight and tell her to stop making stuff up.

Because it is clear you don't believe women. Cuz they ain't victims, is they? Nope, they all just looking fer yer MONAY.

**** your own face, you soulless blight on the ass of humanity.
LMAO
Easy there Francis.

ChiTown
12-12-2017, 06:42 PM
You might be overreacting.

Might? Sapho lashes out more than a teenaged girl on her period.

Easy 6
12-12-2017, 06:51 PM
LMAO
Easy there Francis.

Lonewolf Ed, if there was a more genuine nice guy here than him, I've no idea who it would be

He used to get the shittiest little messages from sapho, for the most inoffensive Ed type posts you can imagine

I usually just cheered him up by pointing out exactly who was being that way toward him... 'Its just some freak putting on his lipstick, lol... **** him lol'

Strongside
12-12-2017, 06:56 PM
I have some less than flattering text conversations with coworkers in my past...all of which were mutual. Some of these women have since come into money/power. Do I have a card to play here?

Just kidding. But seriously.

Mama Hip Rockets
12-12-2017, 07:06 PM
It might very well be true, but I just get kinda annoyed and pissed off with the fact that they wait until now to say something. Now that they know there will be serious attention paid, and money to be made, everyone wants to come out with their story.

My view is, if it wasn't bad enough to get you to complain in the first place, shut the **** up. For all we know, the woman didn't mind it at the time but decided to make it seem that way now due to all of the press she knows it would receive.

It's not that simple. Victims are intimidated, afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of being retaliated against, and afraid of their reputations being ruined. And comments like this (and the dozens of other people shooting their mouths off in this thread and others like it) are part of the problem.

vailpass
12-12-2017, 07:16 PM
Lonewolf Ed, if there was a more genuine nice guy here than him, I've no idea who it would be

He used to get the shittiest little messages from sapho, for the most inoffensive Ed type posts you can imagine

I usually just cheered him up by pointing out exactly who was being that way toward him... 'Its just some freak putting on his lipstick, lol... **** him lol'

That's all I need to know. Anybody doesn't get along with Ed has a problem.

Bwana
12-12-2017, 07:35 PM
Warren Sapp (former on-air talent) — Came into restroom while plaintiff was preparing clothes and urinated in front of her.

When she screamed at him to get out, Sapp said, “Sorry mama, but your office shouldn’t be our sh*tter.”

Sapp is also accused of giving the woman sex toys for Christmas 3 years in a row.

More details: http://dailysnark.com/details-sexual...work-employee/ (http://dailysnark.com/details-sexual-harassment-made-former-nfl-players-nfl-network-employee/)

LMAO

vailpass
12-12-2017, 07:38 PM
It's not that simple. Victims are intimidated, afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of being retaliated against, and afraid of their reputations being ruined. And comments like this (and the dozens of other people shooting their mouths off in this thread and others like it) are part of the problem.

You go girl.

KCrockaholic
12-12-2017, 07:39 PM
This thread turned into AIDS quickly. RIP my future daughter in honor of the Junkie.

Bwana
12-12-2017, 07:43 PM
He was nice but his hair was offensive. Also didn't he try to pass off a porn star as his internet girlfriend?

Seriously? ROFL

Bwana
12-12-2017, 07:52 PM
Congratulations, you are a bigger piece of shit.

Here's hoping you have a daughter, and one day she comes home to tell you that an entitled millionaire athlete who has never been told "no" his whole life raped her.

That way, you can set that lying bitch straight and tell her to stop making stuff up.

Because it is clear you don't believe women. Cuz they ain't victims, is they? Nope, they all just looking fer yer MONAY.

**** your own face, you soulless blight on the ass of humanity.

Well alrighty then.

https://media.tenor.com/images/d213cc0fadd5b0aa5d088c2b8cd6dc47/tenor.gif (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj0lcqY8IXYAhVr4YMKHYVBC_4QjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftenor.com%2Fsearch%2Ftriggered-gifs&psig=AOvVaw1v7hfuPdu0gSgTQ7l2jSoz&ust=1513216309257268)

Al Bundy
12-12-2017, 08:04 PM
Lonewolf Ed, if there was a more genuine nice guy here than him, I've no idea who it would be

He used to get the shittiest little messages from sapho, for the most inoffensive Ed type posts you can imagine

I usually just cheered him up by pointing out exactly who was being that way toward him... 'Its just some freak putting on his lipstick, lol... **** him lol'

You and I agree on this, and fuck Sapho for that.

Bwana
12-12-2017, 08:11 PM
Lonewolf Ed, if there was a more genuine nice guy here than him, I've no idea who it would be

He used to get the shittiest little messages from sapho, for the most inoffensive Ed type posts you can imagine

I usually just cheered him up by pointing out exactly who was being that way toward him... 'Its just some freak putting on his lipstick, lol... **** him lol'

Really?

vailpass
12-12-2017, 08:13 PM
You and I agree on this, and **** Sapho for that.

Fuck him hard. I had no idea.

stevieray
12-12-2017, 08:23 PM
Lonewolf Ed, if there was a more genuine nice guy here than him, I've no idea who it would be

He used to get the shittiest little messages from sapho, for the most inoffensive Ed type posts you can imagine

I usually just cheered him up by pointing out exactly who was being that way toward him... 'Its just some freak putting on his lipstick, lol... **** him lol'

That's messed up.

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 08:36 PM
Why is he a piece of shit for not immediately believing in the accusations? I wouldn't be surprised if some of those guys did make sexual references towards her, but I also wouldn't be surprised if she egged it on and pretended to enjoy it.

Yeah, sure.

I’m sure that every woman would enjoy a guy whipping out his cock and jerking off on a woman that’s trapped in a hallway or corner.

KChiefs1
12-12-2017, 10:18 PM
Donovan McNabb likes squirters. Who knew?

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 10:19 PM
Donovan McNabb likes squirters. Who knew?

Jami Cantor

KChiefs1
12-12-2017, 10:21 PM
Public service announcement: Do not take pictures of your dick. Do not send anyone pictures of your dick. No one wants pictures of your dick.



Even if they ask for one?

KChiefs1
12-12-2017, 10:22 PM
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/untitled7.jpg



Pic of chick making accusations.



Her ass must be amazing.

KChiefs1
12-12-2017, 10:26 PM
if she still has the texts or the pictures, she wins.


They'd be worth millions.

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 10:36 PM
Her ass must be amazing.

She worked at the NFL Network from 2005 to 2016 so it's silly to assume that all of this happened just recently.

I'm sure she looked different at age 41 than at age 51.

Chiefshrink
12-12-2017, 10:41 PM
At some point I wonder when allegations are going to become weaponized. Want someone's job? Just accuse them.

I'm not saying this isn't a legitimate complaint, and it wouldn't be shocking at all if a bunch of football players become uncivilized in a group, but I do worry about weaponizing this phenomenon.

This weaponizing has been going on for some time now. But now the cultural environment is absolutely RIPE for revenge/$$ whether allegations are true or not. All a woman has to do is open her mouth(and we are not talking fellatio here:D) and she is automatically given a platform that automatically and publicly slants in her favor due to the sexual saturated aggressive deviancy of our society especially among many men. Especially among men in high profile positions who fall prey to their own inflated ego that "the rules don't apply to them because of who they supposedly are and their so called status and power will squelch out anyone who does not conform".:rolleyes:

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".

And the woman gets to determine the definition of their scorn whether true or not.

Be very wise my brothers !!!!

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 10:45 PM
This weaponizing has been going on for some time now. But now the cultural environment is absolutely RIPE for revenge/$$ whether allegations are true or not. All a woman has to do is open her mouth(and we are not talking fellatio here:D) and she is automatically given a platform that automatically and publicly slants in her favor due to the sexual saturated aggressive deviancy of our society especially among many men. Especially among men in high profile positions who fall prey to their own inflated ego that "the rules don't apply to them because of who they supposedly are and their so called status and power will squelch out anyone who does not conform".:rolleyes:

Complete and utter horseshit, as usual from the resident

https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/60988/screenshots/558921/quack.png

Chiefshrink
12-12-2017, 10:55 PM
I have some less than flattering text conversations with coworkers in my past...all of which were mutual. Some of these women have since come into money/power. Do I have a card to play here?

Just kidding. But seriously.

Rule No.1 Never get involved with someone who has far less than you whether it be $$, status, family etc......because now they have all the leverage IF they decide they have been scorned by you and want what you have that you refuse to give them.

So yes you have the leverage Strongside BUT the tables have turned in our society because now it is a woman's world in our culture today, good luck with that.:D

Chiefshrink
12-12-2017, 10:58 PM
Complete and utter horseshit, as usual from the resident


You just continue to tell on yourself in so many ways. You are such an attention whore.:rolleyes:

But hey, thanks for reading and your substantive rebuttal.:thumb:

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 11:02 PM
You just continue to tell on yourself in so many ways. You are such an attention whore.:rolleyes:

But hey, thanks for reading and your substantive rebuttal.:thumb:

You’re a buttfucking moron.

In nearly EVERYONE of these harassment cases, the accused has copped to the allegations almost immediately.

Your stupid fucking ass, that has ZERO experience in the real world, believes that major corporations are suspending or firing extremely high profile employees on the basis of an allegation by a woman or women with zero credibility when in fact, they’ve been investigated thoroughly.

Again, you’re a buttfucking moron.

Chiefshrink
12-12-2017, 11:16 PM
You’re a butt****ing moron.

In nearly EVERYONE of these harassment cases, the accused has copped to the allegations almost immediately.

Your stupid ****ing ass, that has ZERO experience in the real world, believes that major corporations are suspending or firing extremely high profile employees on the basis of an allegation by a woman or women with zero credibility when in fact, they’ve been investigated thoroughly.

Again, you’re a butt****ing moron.

Your reading comprehension severely lacks here Doris. You are assuming that I think all these women are lying making false allegations with no evidence in which I said no such thing. I know how the corporate world works.:rolleyes:Like I said, whether true or not all a woman has to do is open her mouth to start the process and either she has the goods to bring someone down or she does not. I make no judgements on any of these women.

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 11:18 PM
Your reading comprehension severely lacks here Doris. You are assuming that I think all these women are lying making false allegations with no evidence in which I said no such thing. I know how the corporate world works.:rolleyes:Like I said, whether true or not all a woman has to do is open her mouth to start the process and either she has the goods to bring someone down or she does not. I make no judgements on any of these women.
Shut the fuck up, Bozo

Your ENTIRE post is contradictory.

http://www.encognitive.com/images/quackwatch-1.jpg

Chiefshrink
12-12-2017, 11:31 PM
Shut the **** up, Bozo

Your ENTIRE post is contradictory.


:rolleyes:

Hey Dane, since you been wounding vaginas since 2000, I'm sure you have always kept the leverage in your favor avoiding sexual harassment lawsuits unlike your mentor Harvey, correct ?:hmmm: How does your wife feel about that plural usage of vaginas ? Or is she into that kind of thing ??? :shrug:

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-12-2017, 11:36 PM
:rolleyes:

Hey Dane, since you been wounding vaginas since 2000, I'm sure you have always kept the leverage in your favor avoiding sexual harassment lawsuits unlike your mentor Harvey, correct ?:hmmm: How does your wife feel about that plural usage of vaginas ? Or is she into that kind of thing ??? :shrug:

Probably feels fine about it, knowing that you're one of the vaginas he's wounding. But she actually understands words, so...

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 11:47 PM
:rolleyes:

Hey Dane, since you been wounding vaginas since 2000, I'm sure you have always kept the leverage in your favor avoiding sexual harassment lawsuits unlike your mentor Harvey, correct ?:hmmm: How does your wife feel about that plural usage of vaginas ? Or is she into that kind of thing ??? :shrug:

More proof that you’re a buttfucking moron.

Accuse women of lying, then deflect.

You’re truly a

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPqqHuaVVc0s67gAEk2NzoYxbK72-mH-NonYyjiWhOSCoVQJpw7w

Bigdaddy
12-12-2017, 11:47 PM
I don't blame them, NFL network women are sexy.

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 11:54 PM
:rolleyes:

Hey Dane, since you been wounding vaginas since 2000, I'm sure you have always kept the leverage in your favor avoiding sexual harassment lawsuits unlike your mentor Harvey, correct ?

What the FUCK is wrong with you?

I don't know Harvey. I've never met him. I've never claimed to have met him. When I worked for the studios, it was in the music divisions.

Now, I'm a composer for film and TV and have had ZERO affiliations with the Weinstein Company.

You're just a fucking FAKE and a QUACK that lashes out when exposed.

LOSER.

hmmm: How does your wife feel about that plural usage of vaginas ? Or is she into that kind of thing ??? :shrug:

Oh, so now you're going to attack my wife? My wife, who's lived through the death of her mother at a young age and dealt with cervical cancer?

Again, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

And furthermore, you fucking piece of shit, my wife earned TWO college degrees in 3 years from UCLA, one in mathematics and one in econ and has more worth to this society than YOU or your SPAWN will ever have.

Fuck you, you phony piece of manipulating garbage that tries to pass himself off as a Christian.

Fuck off and die, tonight, Satan willing.

Fucktard.

DaneMcCloud
12-12-2017, 11:59 PM
You just continue to tell on yourself in so many ways. You are such an attention whore.:rolleyes:

But hey, thanks for reading and your substantive rebuttal.:thumb:

I hope you die in a fire while performing autoerotic asphyxiation

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-13-2017, 12:16 AM
Fuck off and die, tonight, Satan willing.

Fucktard.

http://i.imgur.com/9IFWwaF.png

DaneMcCloud
12-13-2017, 12:17 AM
http://i.imgur.com/9IFWwaF.png

:clap:

RobBlake
12-13-2017, 03:02 AM
Lmao

DaneMcCloud
12-13-2017, 03:24 AM
Lmao

This is not funny

Chiefshrink, the liar, the phony, the fake, the fake Christian, the charlatan, is going down.

Enough.

RobBlake
12-13-2017, 03:26 AM
This is not funny

Chiefshrink, the liar, the phony, the fake, the fake Christian, the charlatan, is going down.

Enough.

You’re like a Russell Westbrook of posting, always attacking relentlessly. Lol bringing up the wife was low

Marcellus
12-13-2017, 06:25 AM
The only thing I find odd about it is that apparently 6 or 7 guys decided to sexually harass the same woman for some reason. That must have been hell.

That just seems weird.

Danguardace
12-13-2017, 06:39 AM
I hope you die in a fire while performing autoerotic asphyxiation

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/250x250/53974586/been-there-before.jpg

wazu
12-13-2017, 07:50 AM
The only thing I find odd about it is that apparently 6 or 7 guys decided to sexually harass the same woman for some reason. That must have been hell.

That just seems weird.

It’s tough to comprehend at first. Guess we first have to consider these guys have been celebrities in most cases since their teens. Making aggressive moves has probably worked fine for them many times. Then factor in an attractive, but approachable woman who they are one on one with on a daily basis taking measurements, trying on clothes, etc. A lot of potential for this kind of thing over a ten year window.

vailpass
12-13-2017, 08:06 AM
It’s tough to comprehend at first. Guess we first have to consider these guys have been celebrities in most cases since their teens. Making aggressive moves has probably worked fine for them many times. Then factor in an attractive, but approachable woman who they are one on one with on a daily basis taking measurements, trying on clothes, etc. A lot of potential for this kind of thing over a ten year window.

Yet it didn't bother her until she was released for stealing clothes from the wardrobe.
I have no doubt some or most of what she alleges occurred. My question is why does it all of a sudden bother her enough to report it now when it did not over the last 10 years?

Easy 6
12-13-2017, 09:15 AM
Really?

Yes, really

It bothered Ed quite a bit, 'why does this guy hate me so much?' he would ask... sappho is a turd

DaneMcCloud
12-13-2017, 09:21 AM
Yet it didn't bother her until she was released for stealing clothes from the wardrobe.
I have no doubt some or most of what she alleges occurred. My question is why does it all of a sudden bother her enough to report it now when it did not over the last 10 years?

Most likely, she didn’t report it for fear of losing her job.

Since Weinstein, the climate has shifted dramatically.

She filed a suit in early October that claimed she was unjustly fired. She went to the network brass and told them about the harassment and according to her and her lawyers, they made up a bogus story about her stealing clothes in order to dismiss her.

After the Weinstein deal blew up, which has now grown to scores of famous people involve in sexual harassment, her lawyers re-filed the case. Apparently, the NFL Network could no longer “sweep her under the rug”.

In addition to have digital information, she also claims that other employees will corroborate her claims.

Those guys are fucked.

RobBlake
12-13-2017, 11:07 AM
I’m curious as to what her actions were. Which doesn’t excuse the actions of the men naturally, curious what role she played

raybec 4
12-13-2017, 11:13 AM
I’m curious as to what her actions were. Which doesn’t excuse the actions of the men naturally, curious what role she played

That sparks a thought, I know it's a totally different situation but when I was younger and single if my one of my buddies told us some girl wasn't DTF we steered clear for the most part.

Lzen
12-13-2017, 11:26 AM
Says the guy who constantly harrased a man dying from cancer with snide little neg reps... eat shit, hypocrite

What?

Lzen
12-13-2017, 11:29 AM
It's not that simple. Victims are intimidated, afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of being retaliated against, and afraid of their reputations being ruined. And comments like this (and the dozens of other people shooting their mouths off in this thread and others like it) are part of the problem.

These are legitimate concerns, for sure. But at the same time we have seen many false accusations. You can't blame people for being skeptical. It wouldn't surprise me either way, honestly. If she has the texts and pics then that should be an open and shut case.

Lzen
12-13-2017, 11:35 AM
..it didn't bother her until she was released for stealing clothes from the wardrobe..

Wait....what?

thegame214
12-13-2017, 11:36 AM
That old ass lady can't be her is it?!

wazu
12-13-2017, 11:44 AM
These are legitimate concerns, for sure. But at the same time we have seen many false accusations. You can't blame people for being skeptical. It wouldn't surprise me either way, honestly. If she has the texts and pics then that should be an open and shut case.

Oh you know she has them. Nobody deletes those. Man, these stories are just so crazy. Who videos themselves masturbating? And then sends it to someone they don’t even have a sexual relationship with? Just the complete and utter cluelessness is mind-blowing.

And most of these guys are decently good-looking celebrities, not some old crusty dudes. If they had any approach that wasn’t shockingly offensive they’d probably have a chance of some reciprocal interest that could lead to what they appear to want.

Rain Man
12-13-2017, 01:39 PM
Oh, my gosh. I got my first-ever "thumbs down" in this thread. I'm going to have to process this.

Rain Man
12-13-2017, 01:42 PM
Oh, my gosh. Now I just got my second one.

Dayze
12-13-2017, 01:47 PM
anarchy!

Rain Man
12-13-2017, 01:48 PM
anarchy!

This thread is going crazy! Now there's three! My hard-earned reputation is being shattered as we speak!

Dayze
12-13-2017, 01:49 PM
can you see who gave you a thumbs down?

asking for a Friend.

Rain Man
12-13-2017, 01:50 PM
can you see who gave you a thumbs down?

asking for a Friend.

Why, yes. Yes, I can. It's a very handy tool for plotting revenge.

KCrockaholic
12-13-2017, 01:54 PM
Facebook planet in full force.

wazu
12-13-2017, 01:55 PM
Facebook planet in full force.

Actually Facebook would be a lot more interesting if it had a “dislike”.

ThaVirus
12-13-2017, 02:02 PM
The apparent fact that you have knowledge of Taylor's equipment is almost as distrurbing as knowing ThaVirus watches videos of William H. Macy dancing around with his oversized crank flopping around everywhere on Reddit.


Lol I can’t help what I stumble upon on the internet!

If I was Al Franken or the like, I'd just admit coming on to her and say 'whatdya want from me? I'm a guy? Thought she might like it...'.

Are you not in control of your own actions? Does having a penis automatically make you a drooling caveman?

In all seriousness, I think this is a big issue. Guilt and innocence aside, what does it say about the lot of you who are offended by her accusations?

Marcellus
12-13-2017, 02:03 PM
Lol I can’t help what I stumble upon on the internet!



Are you not in control of your own actions? Does having a penis automatically make you a drooling caveman?

In all seriousness, I think this is a big issue. Guilt and innocence aside, what does it say about the lot of you who are offended by her accusations?

Who is offended by her accusations?

ThaVirus
12-13-2017, 02:08 PM
Who is offended by her accusations?


These were all within the first 25 posts. I’m not re-reading more of this shit to prove an already obvious point.

Hahaha woman can say anything.


This is just stupid, I'm starting to understand why the Middle East has shut their bitches down. I mean hell, what else are women for except cleaning fish and digging for worms.


This stuff is getting so out of hand. I'm sure some of them are actually harassed and victimized, but the problem nowadays is everyone is guilty until proven innocent, and not innocent until proven guilty.


This is what happens with these cases. She liked the attention at the time, but now that she's gone, oh my I can take down these former NFL players.


It might very well be true, but I just get kinda annoyed and pissed off with the fact that they wait until now to say something.

Rain Man
12-13-2017, 02:15 PM
can you see who gave you a thumbs down?

asking for a Friend.

Why, yes. Yes, I can. It's a very handy tool for plotting revenge.

(Hesitates, then puts down axe.)

Marcellus
12-13-2017, 02:19 PM
These were all within the first 25 posts. I’m not re-reading more of this shit to prove an already obvious point.

I don't see anything there that shows people are "offended".

JFC are all accusations above scrutiny at this point?

ThaVirus
12-13-2017, 02:41 PM
I don't see anything there that shows people are "offended".

JFC are all accusations above scrutiny at this point?

If this was simple scrutiny you might have a leg to stand on.

If you read these allegations and instantly thought "Are you fucking serious? Women can say anything these days! Wish we had never given them rights" or "I wouldn't doubt these allegations are true but, but, but.." then you miiiight be a part of the problem.

WhiteWhale
12-13-2017, 03:03 PM
This weaponizing has been going on for some time now. But now the cultural environment is absolutely RIPE for revenge/$$ whether allegations are true or not. All a woman has to do is open her mouth(and we are not talking fellatio here:D) and she is automatically given a platform that automatically and publicly slants in her favor due to the sexual saturated aggressive deviancy of our society especially among many men. Especially among men in high profile positions who fall prey to their own inflated ego that "the rules don't apply to them because of who they supposedly are and their so called status and power will squelch out anyone who does not conform".:rolleyes:

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".

And the woman gets to determine the definition of their scorn whether true or not.

Be very wise my brothers !!!!

You sound like someone who has made a lot of enemies.

kysirsoze
12-13-2017, 03:04 PM
Yet it didn't bother her until she was released for stealing clothes from the wardrobe.
I have no doubt some or most of what she alleges occurred. My question is why does it all of a sudden bother her enough to report it now when it did not over the last 10 years?

I just don't know how many times this has to be answered. Victims of sexual assault and abuse often don't report out of shame or fear of reprisal. Sometimes it takes many years to feel comfortable enough to come forward. Add in that men in positions of real power are finally being held accountable, it's pretty obvious why a woman would have held back for years only to step forward now.

Rausch
12-13-2017, 03:12 PM
Oh, my gosh. I got my first-ever "thumbs down" in this thread. I'm going to have to process this.

When the PC crowd is offended by Rain Main it's jumped the shark...

Easy 6
12-13-2017, 03:16 PM
It seems to be forgotten that accusations do not = guilt

TLO
12-13-2017, 03:18 PM
It seems to be forgotten that accusations do not = guilt

Guilty until proven innocent - even then, irreversible damage has already been done to your name/reputation.

KCrockaholic
12-13-2017, 03:19 PM
I'm not offended by her accusations. I don't even really care.

Easy 6
12-13-2017, 03:20 PM
Guilty until proven innocent - even then, irreversible damage has already been done to your name/reputation.

Thats exactly the problem

KCrockaholic
12-13-2017, 03:24 PM
It seems to be forgotten that accusations do not = guilt

Guilty until proven innocent - even then, irreversible damage has already been done to your name/reputation.

Thats exactly the problem

Yep, it is the problem. It's not right to assume guilt just as much as it's not right to assume it's all a lie. But people jump to too many conclusions.

wazu
12-13-2017, 03:24 PM
Warren Sapp is taking to Twitter right now. It’s looking pretty epic.

Dayze
12-13-2017, 03:25 PM
" PUT A JERSEY ON!"

KCrockaholic
12-13-2017, 03:26 PM
Warren Sapp is taking to Twitter right now. It’s looking pretty epic.

Was it deleted?

wazu
12-13-2017, 03:28 PM
Was it deleted?

No. He’s posting pics of a gift he bought and defending as not sex related. Also dropped a #notmetoo hashtag.

Iowanian
12-13-2017, 03:28 PM
LET ME IN THE LOCKER ROOM! LET US IN THE LOCKER ROOM! LET WOMEN REPORTERS IN THE LOCKER ROOM.

fwd

OMG, I SAW A COCK N BALLS

TLO
12-13-2017, 03:30 PM
Warren Sapp is taking to Twitter right now. It’s looking pretty epic.

Post up the tweets!!

wazu
12-13-2017, 03:32 PM
Post up the tweets!!

On my phone or I would. Don’t have a good app on iPhone for embed.

KCrockaholic
12-13-2017, 03:34 PM
Weird. He keeps posting a picture of a lipstick shaped vibrator.

wazu
12-13-2017, 03:36 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m sorry thought they was cute! <a href="https://t.co/HuiO0CvkvO">pic.twitter.com/HuiO0CvkvO</a></p>&mdash; Warren Sapp (@WarrenSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/WarrenSapp/status/941038115103354880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kysirsoze
12-13-2017, 03:37 PM
LET ME IN THE LOCKER ROOM! LET US IN THE LOCKER ROOM! LET WOMEN REPORTERS IN THE LOCKER ROOM.

fwd

OMG, I SAW A COCK N BALLS

Did you post this in the wrong thread or something?

ThaVirus
12-13-2017, 03:42 PM
Yep, it is the problem. It's not right to assume guilt just as much as it's not right to assume it's all a lie. But people jump to too many conclusions.

Uhh...

This is what happens with these cases. She liked the attention at the time, but now that she's gone, oh my I can take down these former NFL players.

Ragged Robin
12-13-2017, 03:43 PM
soooo the Sapp thing is true.. does that make the lot of you ****ing idiots for taking his/their side automatically? I think it does ROFL

KCrockaholic
12-13-2017, 03:43 PM
Uhh...

Somebody has to play devils advocate.

kstater
12-13-2017, 03:49 PM
Wait, he's seriously gonna defend himself by saying the vibrator he got her isn't sexual harassment because the vibrator is shaped like a lipstick and not a dick? Fucking dumbass.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

DaneMcCloud
12-13-2017, 03:51 PM
It seems to be forgotten that accusations do not = guilt

Thats exactly the problem

It seems like most of you guys aren't even following the news or reading the articles published on each subject or case.

Other than Weinstein and Piven, every one of these guys has either apologized or admitted to the harassment charges.

Just because they haven't been convicted in a court of law doesn't mean that these instances didn't occur. It's pretty clear that they occurred because men are losing their jobs due to overwhelming evidence.

Iowanian
12-13-2017, 04:01 PM
Wait, he's seriously gonna defend himself by saying the vibrator he got her isn't sexual harassment because the vibrator is shaped like a lipstick and not a dick? ****ing dumbass.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

It's inappropriate. If a male coworker of my wife's gave her something like that I'd probably take a hammer to their cranium.


What I'm trying to figure out is if this all happened at once and she came forward, or if alot if it was "OK" for a long time until something else happened and she wanted to get paid.

It's just strange to me that so many men in one place are doing this to her. Was she a flirt? Did she shut it down and it kept happening? Maybe I'm just normal but I can't see going from 0 to dick pics in 1 text string. It doesn't seem normal or believable that Sapp just randomly gives her a vibe without banter or history that would make him think that was ok?

Maybe these celebs have just been so used to women throwing pussy at them since they were in HS that they don't have a normal reality for what is ok and not ok?

Easy 6
12-13-2017, 04:12 PM
It seems like most of you guys aren't even following the news or reading the articles published on each subject or case.

Other than Weinstein and Piven, every one of these guys has either apologized or admitted to the harassment charges.

Just because they haven't been convicted in a court of law doesn't mean that these instances didn't occur. It's pretty clear that they occurred because men are losing their jobs due to overwhelming evidence.

Jeffrey Tambor vehemently denies the allegations against him, but that didnt stop him from being yanked off a show he was in

In cases where the perp has apologized, or there is damning evidence like texts etc... then absolutely consider them guilty

wazu
12-13-2017, 04:30 PM
Jeffrey Tambor vehemently denies the allegations against him, but that didnt stop him from being yanked off a show he was in

In cases where the perp has apologized, or there is damning evidence like texts etc... then absolutely consider them guilty

The example you cite, Tambor, says he is deeply sorry if his actions were misinterpreted as sexually aggressive. And he has three separate accusers.

Easy 6
12-13-2017, 04:46 PM
The example you cite, Tambor, says he is deeply sorry if his actions were misinterpreted as sexually aggressive. And he has three separate accusers.

The whole thing lately reminds me of this SNL sketch

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sexual-harassment/2751966?snl=1

DaneMcCloud
12-13-2017, 04:50 PM
The whole thing lately reminds me of this SNL sketch

Read this and tell us it's funny:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/13/opinion/contributors/salma-hayek-harvey-weinstein.html

HARVEY WEINSTEIN WAS a passionate cinephile, a risk taker, a patron of talent in film, a loving father and a monster.

For years, he was my monster.

This fall, I was approached by reporters, through different sources, including my dear friend Ashley Judd, to speak about an episode in my life that, although painful, I thought I had made peace with. I had brainwashed myself into thinking that it was over and that I had survived; I hid from the responsibility to speak out with the excuse that enough people were already involved in shining a light on my monster. I didn’t consider my voice important, nor did I think it would make a difference. In reality, I was trying to save myself the challenge of explaining several things to my loved ones: Why, when I had casually mentioned that I had been bullied like many others by Harvey, I had excluded a couple of details. And why, for so many years, we have been cordial to a man who hurt me so deeply. I had been proud of my capacity for forgiveness, but the mere fact that I was ashamed to describe the details of what I had forgiven made me wonder if that chapter of my life had really been resolved.

When so many women came forward to describe what Harvey had done to them, I had to confront my cowardice and humbly accept that my story, as important as it was to me, was nothing but a drop in an ocean of sorrow and confusion. I felt that by now nobody would care about my pain — maybe this was an effect of the many times I was told, especially by Harvey, that I was nobody. We are finally becoming conscious of a vice that has been socially accepted and has insulted and humiliated millions of girls like me, for in every woman there is a girl. I am inspired by those who had the courage to speak out, especially in a society that elected a president who has been accused of sexual harassment and assault by more than a dozen women and whom we have all heard make a statement about how a man in power can do anything he wants to women.

Well, not anymore.

In the 14 years that I stumbled from schoolgirl to Mexican soap star to an extra in a few American films to catching a couple of lucky breaks in “Desperado” and “Fools Rush In,” Harvey Weinstein had become the wizard of a new wave of cinema that took original content into the mainstream. At the same time, it was unimaginable for a Mexican actress to aspire to a place in Hollywood. And even though I had proven them wrong, I was still a nobody. One of the forces that gave me the determination to pursue my career was the story of Frida Kahlo, who in the golden age of the Mexican muralists would do small intimate paintings that everybody looked down on. She had the courage to express herself while disregarding skepticism. My greatest ambition was to tell her story. It became my mission to portray the life of this extraordinary artist and to show my native Mexico in a way that combated stereotypes.

The Weinstein empire, which was then Miramax, had become synonymous with quality, sophistication and risk taking — a haven for artists who were complex and defiant. It was everything that Frida was to me and everything I aspired to be. I had started a journey to produce the film with a different company, but I fought to get it back to take it to Harvey. I knew him a little bit through my relationship with the director Robert Rodriguez and the producer Elizabeth Avellan, who was then his wife, with whom I had done several films and who had taken me under their wing. All I knew of Harvey at the time was that he had a remarkable intellect, he was a loyal friend and a family man. Knowing what I know now, I wonder if it wasn’t my friendship with them — and Quentin Tarantino and George Clooney — that saved me from being raped.

The deal we made initially was that Harvey would pay for the rights of work I had already developed. As an actress, I would be paid the minimum Screen Actors Guild scale plus 10 percent. As a producer, I would receive a credit that would not yet be defined, but no payment, which was not that rare for a female producer in the ’90s. He also demanded a signed deal for me to do several other films with Miramax, which I thought would cement my status as a leading lady. I did not care about the money; I was so excited to work with him and that company. In my naïveté, I thought my dream had come true. He had validated the last 14 years of my life. He had taken a chance on me — a nobody. He had said yes.

Little did I know it would become my turn to say no.

No to opening the door to him at all hours of the night, hotel after hotel, location after location, where he would show up unexpectedly, including one location where I was doing a movie he wasn’t even involved with.

No to me taking a shower with him.

No to letting him watch me take a shower.

No to letting him give me a massage.

No to letting a naked friend of his give me a massage.

No to letting him give me oral sex.

No to my getting naked with another woman.

No, no, no, no, no …

And with every refusal came Harvey’s Machiavellian rage.

I don’t think he hated anything more than the word “no.” The absurdity of his demands went from getting a furious call in the middle of the night asking me to fire my agent for a fight he was having with him about a different movie with a different client to physically dragging me out of the opening gala of the Venice Film Festival, which was in honor of “Frida,” so I could hang out at his private party with him and some women I thought were models but I was told later were high-priced prostitutes. The range of his persuasion tactics went from sweet-talking me to that one time when, in an attack of fury, he said the terrifying words, “I will kill you, don’t think I can’t.” When he was finally convinced that I was not going to earn the movie the way he had expected, he told me he had offered my role and my script with my years of research to another actress. In his eyes, I was not an artist. I wasn’t even a person. I was a thing: not a nobody, but a body.

At that point, I had to resort to using lawyers, not by pursuing a sexual harassment case, but by claiming “bad faith,” as I had worked so hard on a movie that he was not intending to make or sell back to me. I tried to get it out of his company. He claimed that my name as an actress was not big enough and that I was incompetent as a producer, but to clear himself legally, as I understood it, he gave me a list of impossible tasks with a tight deadline:

1. Get a rewrite of the script, with no additional payment.

2. Raise $10 million to finance the film.

3. Attach an A-list director.

4. Cast four of the smaller roles with prominent actors.

Much to everyone’s amazement, not least my own, I delivered, thanks to a phalanx of angels who came to my rescue, including Edward Norton, who beautifully rewrote the script several times and appallingly never got credit, and my friend Margaret Perenchio, a first-time producer, who put up the money. The brilliant Julie Taymor agreed to direct, and from then on she became my rock. For the other roles, I recruited my friends Antonio Banderas, Edward Norton and my dear Ashley Judd. To this day, I don’t know how I convinced Geoffrey Rush, whom I barely knew at the time.

Now Harvey Weinstein was not only rejected but also about to do a movie he did not want to do.

Ironically, once we started filming, the sexual harassment stopped but the rage escalated. We paid the price for standing up to him nearly every day of shooting. Once, in an interview he said Julie and I were the biggest ball busters he had ever encountered, which we took as a compliment. Halfway through shooting, Harvey turned up on set and complained about Frida’s “unibrow.” He insisted that I eliminate the limp and berated my performance. Then he asked everyone in the room to step out except for me. He told me that the only thing I had going for me was my sex appeal and that there was none of that in this movie. So he told me he was going to shut down the film because no one would want to see me in that role.

It was soul crushing because, I confess, lost in the fog of a sort of Stockholm syndrome, I wanted him to see me as an artist: not only as a capable actress but also as somebody who could identify a compelling story and had the vision to tell it in an original way. I was hoping he would acknowledge me as a producer, who on top of delivering his list of demands shepherded the script and obtained the permits to use the paintings. I had negotiated with the Mexican government, and with whomever I had to, to get locations that had never been given to anyone in the past — including Frida Kahlo’s houses and the murals of Kahlo’s husband, Diego Rivera, among others.

But all of this seemed to have no value. The only thing he noticed was that I was not sexy in the movie. He made me doubt if I was any good as an actress, but he never succeeded in making me think that the film was not worth making. He offered me one option to continue. He would let me finish the film if I agreed to do a sex scene with another woman. And he demanded full-frontal nudity. He had been constantly asking for more skin, for more sex. Once before, Julie Taymor got him to settle for a tango ending in a kiss instead of the lovemaking scene he wanted us to shoot between the character Tina Modotti, played by Ashley Judd, and Frida. But this time, it was clear to me he would never let me finish this movie without him having his fantasy one way or another. There was no room for negotiation. I had to say yes. By now so many years of my life had gone into this film. We were about five weeks into shooting, and I had convinced so many talented people to participate. How could I let their magnificent work go to waste? I had asked for so many favors, I felt an immense pressure to deliver and a deep sense of gratitude for all those who did believe in me and followed me into this madness. So I agreed to do the senseless scene.

I arrived on the set the day we were to shoot the scene that I believed would save the movie. And for the first and last time in my career, I had a nervous breakdown: My body began to shake uncontrollably, my breath was short and I began to cry and cry, unable to stop, as if I were throwing up tears. Since those around me had no knowledge of my history of Harvey, they were very surprised by my struggle that morning. It was not because I would be naked with another woman. It was because I would be naked with her for Harvey Weinstein. But I could not tell them then. My mind understood that I had to do it, but my body wouldn’t stop crying and convulsing. At that point, I started throwing up while a set frozen still waited to shoot. I had to take a tranquilizer, which eventually stopped the crying but made the vomiting worse. As you can imagine, this was not sexy, but it was the only way I could get through the scene.

By the time the filming of the movie was over, I was so emotionally distraught that I had to distance myself during the postproduction. When Harvey saw the cut film, he said it was not good enough for a theatrical release and that he would send it straight to video. This time Julie had to fight him without me and got him to agree to release the film in one movie theater in New York if we tested it to an audience and we scored at least an 80. Less than 10 percent of films achieve that score on a first screening. I didn’t go to the test. I anxiously awaited to receive the news. The film scored 85. And again, I heard Harvey raged. In the lobby of a theater after the screening, he screamed at Julie. He balled up one of the scorecards and threw it at her. It bounced off her nose. Her partner, the film’s composer Elliot Goldenthal, stepped in, and Harvey physically threatened him.

Once he calmed down, I found the strength to call Harvey to ask him also to open the movie in a theater in Los Angeles, which made a total of two theaters. And without much ado, he gave me that. I have to say sometimes he was kind, fun and witty — and that was part of the problem: You just never knew which Harvey you were going to get. Months later, in October 2002, this film, about my hero and inspiration — this Mexican artist who never truly got acknowledged in her time with her limp and her unibrow, this film that Harvey never wanted to do, gave him a box office success that no one could have predicted, and despite his lack of support, added six Academy Award nominations to his collection, including best actress. Even though “Frida” eventually won him two Oscars, I still didn’t see any joy. He never offered me a starring role in a movie again. The films that I was obliged to do under my original deal with Miramax were all minor supporting roles.

Years later, when I ran into him at an event, he pulled me aside and told me he had stopped smoking and he had had a heart attack. He said he’d fallen in love and married Georgina Chapman, and that he was a changed man. Finally, he said to me: “You did well with ‘Frida’; we did a beautiful movie.” I believed him. Harvey would never know how much those words meant to me. He also would never know how much he hurt me. I never showed Harvey how terrified I was of him. When I saw him socially, I’d smile and try to remember the good things about him, telling myself that I went to war and I won. But why do so many of us, as female artists, have to go to war to tell our stories when we have so much to offer? Why do we have to fight tooth and nail to maintain our dignity? I think it is because we, as women, have been devalued artistically to an indecent state, to the point where the film industry stopped making an effort to find out what female audiences wanted to see and what stories we wanted to tell.

According to a recent study, between 2007 and 2016, only 4 percent of directors were female and 80 percent of those got the chance to make only one film. In 2016, another study found, only 27 percent of words spoken in the biggest movies were spoken by women. And people wonder why you didn’t hear our voices sooner. I think the statistics are self-explanatory — our voices are not welcome. Until there is equality in our industry, with men and women having the same value in every aspect of it, our community will continue to be a fertile ground for predators.

I am grateful for everyone who is listening to our experiences. I hope that adding my voice to the chorus of those who are finally speaking out will shed light on why it is so difficult, and why so many of us have waited so long. Men sexually harassed because they could. Women are talking today because, in this new era, we finally can.

Rain Man
12-13-2017, 04:51 PM
In a completely enlightened society, it seems like a vibrator would be a very thoughtful and welcome gift.

Easy 6
12-13-2017, 05:20 PM
Weinstein was clearly a monster and there is no defending him

But not everyone accused of harassment even comes close to what he did, Dane

DaneMcCloud
12-13-2017, 08:32 PM
But not everyone accused of harassment even comes close to what he did, Dane

Then you’re not reading every story thoroughly.

Matt Lauer is certainly in the same realm, as is Louis CK.

And Spacey, trying to seduce multiple young teens while wreaking havoc on sets and grabbing men’s crotches, including a Prince, is right up there.

Either you’re not reading all of the available info or your tolerance for this shit is way higher than the normal person.

Danguardace
12-14-2017, 01:34 AM
These stories are truly depressing and depressingly unsurprising. It just highlights the plight of woman and powerless young men who are deemed as disposable in society as a whole.

wazu
12-14-2017, 08:00 AM
Audio of Sapp defending himself. He does a pretty convincing job, and it’s classic Warren: http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55aa9f37e4b0761435681154/t/5a3197acec212db9cd38c63e/1513199566174/SappExclusive.mp3/original/SappExclusive.mp3

ChiliConCarnage
12-14-2017, 08:07 AM
Laura Wagner of Deadspin.com reports that NFL Media V.P. and executive editor David Eaton recently deleted his Twitter account. Before doing that, he “appears to have” deleted “years’ worth of Twitter interactions with and unfollowing hundreds of accounts of escorts and porn stars.”

This guy isn't part of the lawsuit.. at least so far.

TLO
12-14-2017, 08:25 AM
It seems like most of you guys aren't even following the news or reading the articles published on each subject or case.

Other than Weinstein and Piven, every one of these guys has either apologized or admitted to the harassment charges.

Just because they haven't been convicted in a court of law doesn't mean that these instances didn't occur. It's pretty clear that they occurred because men are losing their jobs due to overwhelming evidence.

Here we see Dane McCloud, presumably sober and in good spirits. I hope he doesn't accidentally fall face first into a giant pile of cocaine!!!!

(A short time later)

https://m.popkey.co/0ab3eb/mWQKX.gif

What the **** is wrong with you?

I don't know Harvey. I've never met him. I've never claimed to have met him. When I worked for the studios, it was in the music divisions.

Now, I'm a composer for film and TV and have had ZERO affiliations with the Weinstein Company.

You're just a ****ing FAKE and a QUACK that lashes out when exposed.

LOSER.



Oh, so now you're going to attack my wife? My wife, who's lived through the death of her mother at a young age and dealt with cervical cancer?

Again, WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU?

And furthermore, you ****ing piece of shit, my wife earned TWO college degrees in 3 years from UCLA, one in mathematics and one in econ and has more worth to this society than YOU or your SPAWN will ever have.

**** you, you phony piece of manipulating garbage that tries to pass himself off as a Christian.

**** off and die, tonight, Satan willing.

****tard.

Lzen
12-14-2017, 08:33 AM
Why, yes. Yes, I can. It's a very handy tool for plotting revenge.

Oh, crap. I was just kidding, Rainman. :D

Chiefnj2
12-14-2017, 08:33 AM
Interesting interview with Sapp.

Even if you assume everything Sapp says is true, the NFL Network will still have a tough time defending itself. It's the classic "really relaxed" workplace where employees talk and joke about personal matters which is no longer acceptable. You have someone who might have gone along with it, or at least didn't object to it, but they saved the information to use at a later point in time.

It'll be interesting to see if and how the other accused explain their part of the allegations.

wazu
12-14-2017, 08:39 AM
Interesting part of what Sapp said is he pulled in the make-up ladies as being able to corroborate his story.

DaneMcCloud
12-14-2017, 08:42 AM
Here we see Dane McCloud, presumably sober and in good spirits.

The day I start caring about what your stupid ass thinks is the day the world comes to an end.

vailpass
12-14-2017, 08:47 AM
Audio of Sapp defending himself. He does a pretty convincing job, and it’s classic Warren: http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55aa9f37e4b0761435681154/t/5a3197acec212db9cd38c63e/1513199566174/SappExclusive.mp3/original/SappExclusive.mp3

At some point there has to be a balance realized between actual sexual harassment/abuse where a person is harmed and situations where consensual human interactions occur in the normal course of events and nobody is harmed.

BigBeauford
12-14-2017, 09:04 AM
It's inappropriate. If a male coworker of my wife's gave her something like that I'd probably take a hammer to their cranium.


What I'm trying to figure out is if this all happened at once and she came forward, or if alot if it was "OK" for a long time until something else happened and she wanted to get paid.

It's just strange to me that so many men in one place are doing this to her. Was she a flirt? Did she shut it down and it kept happening? Maybe I'm just normal but I can't see going from 0 to dick pics in 1 text string. It doesn't seem normal or believable that Sapp just randomly gives her a vibe without banter or history that would make him think that was ok?

Maybe these celebs have just been so used to women throwing pussy at them since they were in HS that they don't have a normal reality for what is ok and not ok?

I would guess this was a dream job for her. She probably put up with a lot, for fear that speaking out might cost her the job. Once she didnt have all of that to lose, she let loose.

Lzen
12-14-2017, 09:08 AM
Read this and tell us it's funny:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/13/opinion/contributors/salma-hayek-harvey-weinstein.html

HARVEY WEINSTEIN WAS a passionate cinephile, a risk taker, a patron of talent in film, a loving father and a monster.

For years, he was my monster.

This fall, I was approached by reporters, through different sources, including my dear friend Ashley Judd, to speak about an episode in my life that, although painful, I thought I had made peace with. I had brainwashed myself into thinking that it was over and that I had survived; I hid from the responsibility to speak out with the excuse that enough people were already involved in shining a light on my monster. I didn’t consider my voice important, nor did I think it would make a difference. In reality, I was trying to save myself the challenge of explaining several things to my loved ones: Why, when I had casually mentioned that I had been bullied like many others by Harvey, I had excluded a couple of details. And why, for so many years, we have been cordial to a man who hurt me so deeply. I had been proud of my capacity for forgiveness, but the mere fact that I was ashamed to describe the details of what I had forgiven made me wonder if that chapter of my life had really been resolved.

When so many women came forward to describe what Harvey had done to them, I had to confront my cowardice and humbly accept that my story, as important as it was to me, was nothing but a drop in an ocean of sorrow and confusion. I felt that by now nobody would care about my pain — maybe this was an effect of the many times I was told, especially by Harvey, that I was nobody. We are finally becoming conscious of a vice that has been socially accepted and has insulted and humiliated millions of girls like me, for in every woman there is a girl. I am inspired by those who had the courage to speak out, especially in a society that elected a president who has been accused of sexual harassment and assault by more than a dozen women and whom we have all heard make a statement about how a man in power can do anything he wants to women.

Well, not anymore.

In the 14 years that I stumbled from schoolgirl to Mexican soap star to an extra in a few American films to catching a couple of lucky breaks in “Desperado” and “Fools Rush In,” Harvey Weinstein had become the wizard of a new wave of cinema that took original content into the mainstream. At the same time, it was unimaginable for a Mexican actress to aspire to a place in Hollywood. And even though I had proven them wrong, I was still a nobody. One of the forces that gave me the determination to pursue my career was the story of Frida Kahlo, who in the golden age of the Mexican muralists would do small intimate paintings that everybody looked down on. She had the courage to express herself while disregarding skepticism. My greatest ambition was to tell her story. It became my mission to portray the life of this extraordinary artist and to show my native Mexico in a way that combated stereotypes.

The Weinstein empire, which was then Miramax, had become synonymous with quality, sophistication and risk taking — a haven for artists who were complex and defiant. It was everything that Frida was to me and everything I aspired to be. I had started a journey to produce the film with a different company, but I fought to get it back to take it to Harvey. I knew him a little bit through my relationship with the director Robert Rodriguez and the producer Elizabeth Avellan, who was then his wife, with whom I had done several films and who had taken me under their wing. All I knew of Harvey at the time was that he had a remarkable intellect, he was a loyal friend and a family man. Knowing what I know now, I wonder if it wasn’t my friendship with them — and Quentin Tarantino and George Clooney — that saved me from being raped.

The deal we made initially was that Harvey would pay for the rights of work I had already developed. As an actress, I would be paid the minimum Screen Actors Guild scale plus 10 percent. As a producer, I would receive a credit that would not yet be defined, but no payment, which was not that rare for a female producer in the ’90s. He also demanded a signed deal for me to do several other films with Miramax, which I thought would cement my status as a leading lady. I did not care about the money; I was so excited to work with him and that company. In my naïveté, I thought my dream had come true. He had validated the last 14 years of my life. He had taken a chance on me — a nobody. He had said yes.

Little did I know it would become my turn to say no.

No to opening the door to him at all hours of the night, hotel after hotel, location after location, where he would show up unexpectedly, including one location where I was doing a movie he wasn’t even involved with.

No to me taking a shower with him.

No to letting him watch me take a shower.

No to letting him give me a massage.

No to letting a naked friend of his give me a massage.

No to letting him give me oral sex.

No to my getting naked with another woman.

No, no, no, no, no …

And with every refusal came Harvey’s Machiavellian rage.

I don’t think he hated anything more than the word “no.” The absurdity of his demands went from getting a furious call in the middle of the night asking me to fire my agent for a fight he was having with him about a different movie with a different client to physically dragging me out of the opening gala of the Venice Film Festival, which was in honor of “Frida,” so I could hang out at his private party with him and some women I thought were models but I was told later were high-priced prostitutes. The range of his persuasion tactics went from sweet-talking me to that one time when, in an attack of fury, he said the terrifying words, “I will kill you, don’t think I can’t.” When he was finally convinced that I was not going to earn the movie the way he had expected, he told me he had offered my role and my script with my years of research to another actress. In his eyes, I was not an artist. I wasn’t even a person. I was a thing: not a nobody, but a body.

At that point, I had to resort to using lawyers, not by pursuing a sexual harassment case, but by claiming “bad faith,” as I had worked so hard on a movie that he was not intending to make or sell back to me. I tried to get it out of his company. He claimed that my name as an actress was not big enough and that I was incompetent as a producer, but to clear himself legally, as I understood it, he gave me a list of impossible tasks with a tight deadline:

1. Get a rewrite of the script, with no additional payment.

2. Raise $10 million to finance the film.

3. Attach an A-list director.

4. Cast four of the smaller roles with prominent actors.

Much to everyone’s amazement, not least my own, I delivered, thanks to a phalanx of angels who came to my rescue, including Edward Norton, who beautifully rewrote the script several times and appallingly never got credit, and my friend Margaret Perenchio, a first-time producer, who put up the money. The brilliant Julie Taymor agreed to direct, and from then on she became my rock. For the other roles, I recruited my friends Antonio Banderas, Edward Norton and my dear Ashley Judd. To this day, I don’t know how I convinced Geoffrey Rush, whom I barely knew at the time.

Now Harvey Weinstein was not only rejected but also about to do a movie he did not want to do.

Ironically, once we started filming, the sexual harassment stopped but the rage escalated. We paid the price for standing up to him nearly every day of shooting. Once, in an interview he said Julie and I were the biggest ball busters he had ever encountered, which we took as a compliment. Halfway through shooting, Harvey turned up on set and complained about Frida’s “unibrow.” He insisted that I eliminate the limp and berated my performance. Then he asked everyone in the room to step out except for me. He told me that the only thing I had going for me was my sex appeal and that there was none of that in this movie. So he told me he was going to shut down the film because no one would want to see me in that role.

It was soul crushing because, I confess, lost in the fog of a sort of Stockholm syndrome, I wanted him to see me as an artist: not only as a capable actress but also as somebody who could identify a compelling story and had the vision to tell it in an original way. I was hoping he would acknowledge me as a producer, who on top of delivering his list of demands shepherded the script and obtained the permits to use the paintings. I had negotiated with the Mexican government, and with whomever I had to, to get locations that had never been given to anyone in the past — including Frida Kahlo’s houses and the murals of Kahlo’s husband, Diego Rivera, among others.

But all of this seemed to have no value. The only thing he noticed was that I was not sexy in the movie. He made me doubt if I was any good as an actress, but he never succeeded in making me think that the film was not worth making. He offered me one option to continue. He would let me finish the film if I agreed to do a sex scene with another woman. And he demanded full-frontal nudity. He had been constantly asking for more skin, for more sex. Once before, Julie Taymor got him to settle for a tango ending in a kiss instead of the lovemaking scene he wanted us to shoot between the character Tina Modotti, played by Ashley Judd, and Frida. But this time, it was clear to me he would never let me finish this movie without him having his fantasy one way or another. There was no room for negotiation. I had to say yes. By now so many years of my life had gone into this film. We were about five weeks into shooting, and I had convinced so many talented people to participate. How could I let their magnificent work go to waste? I had asked for so many favors, I felt an immense pressure to deliver and a deep sense of gratitude for all those who did believe in me and followed me into this madness. So I agreed to do the senseless scene.

I arrived on the set the day we were to shoot the scene that I believed would save the movie. And for the first and last time in my career, I had a nervous breakdown: My body began to shake uncontrollably, my breath was short and I began to cry and cry, unable to stop, as if I were throwing up tears. Since those around me had no knowledge of my history of Harvey, they were very surprised by my struggle that morning. It was not because I would be naked with another woman. It was because I would be naked with her for Harvey Weinstein. But I could not tell them then. My mind understood that I had to do it, but my body wouldn’t stop crying and convulsing. At that point, I started throwing up while a set frozen still waited to shoot. I had to take a tranquilizer, which eventually stopped the crying but made the vomiting worse. As you can imagine, this was not sexy, but it was the only way I could get through the scene.

By the time the filming of the movie was over, I was so emotionally distraught that I had to distance myself during the postproduction. When Harvey saw the cut film, he said it was not good enough for a theatrical release and that he would send it straight to video. This time Julie had to fight him without me and got him to agree to release the film in one movie theater in New York if we tested it to an audience and we scored at least an 80. Less than 10 percent of films achieve that score on a first screening. I didn’t go to the test. I anxiously awaited to receive the news. The film scored 85. And again, I heard Harvey raged. In the lobby of a theater after the screening, he screamed at Julie. He balled up one of the scorecards and threw it at her. It bounced off her nose. Her partner, the film’s composer Elliot Goldenthal, stepped in, and Harvey physically threatened him.

Once he calmed down, I found the strength to call Harvey to ask him also to open the movie in a theater in Los Angeles, which made a total of two theaters. And without much ado, he gave me that. I have to say sometimes he was kind, fun and witty — and that was part of the problem: You just never knew which Harvey you were going to get. Months later, in October 2002, this film, about my hero and inspiration — this Mexican artist who never truly got acknowledged in her time with her limp and her unibrow, this film that Harvey never wanted to do, gave him a box office success that no one could have predicted, and despite his lack of support, added six Academy Award nominations to his collection, including best actress. Even though “Frida” eventually won him two Oscars, I still didn’t see any joy. He never offered me a starring role in a movie again. The films that I was obliged to do under my original deal with Miramax were all minor supporting roles.

Years later, when I ran into him at an event, he pulled me aside and told me he had stopped smoking and he had had a heart attack. He said he’d fallen in love and married Georgina Chapman, and that he was a changed man. Finally, he said to me: “You did well with ‘Frida’; we did a beautiful movie.” I believed him. Harvey would never know how much those words meant to me. He also would never know how much he hurt me. I never showed Harvey how terrified I was of him. When I saw him socially, I’d smile and try to remember the good things about him, telling myself that I went to war and I won. But why do so many of us, as female artists, have to go to war to tell our stories when we have so much to offer? Why do we have to fight tooth and nail to maintain our dignity? I think it is because we, as women, have been devalued artistically to an indecent state, to the point where the film industry stopped making an effort to find out what female audiences wanted to see and what stories we wanted to tell.

According to a recent study, between 2007 and 2016, only 4 percent of directors were female and 80 percent of those got the chance to make only one film. In 2016, another study found, only 27 percent of words spoken in the biggest movies were spoken by women. And people wonder why you didn’t hear our voices sooner. I think the statistics are self-explanatory — our voices are not welcome. Until there is equality in our industry, with men and women having the same value in every aspect of it, our community will continue to be a fertile ground for predators.

I am grateful for everyone who is listening to our experiences. I hope that adding my voice to the chorus of those who are finally speaking out will shed light on why it is so difficult, and why so many of us have waited so long. Men sexually harassed because they could. Women are talking today because, in this new era, we finally can.

When I started reading that I couldn't help but think typical NYT BS when she mentioned the part about Trump being accused of sexual harassment. She conveniently left out the part where it seems suspicious to a lot of folks when something like that happens right before an election. Also, there is that pesky little thing about his opponent's husband having been accused of the very same thing while Hill used brutal tactics to cover it up. And before anyone tries to attack me as some Trump fan, just know that I refused to vote for either of those crappy candidates.

Now that being said, her story of her history with Weinstein is horrible. He's a monster. And I agree that people like this need to be outed and removed from positions of power. I can't even relate to how a victim deals with this kind of stuff over a long period of time like she did. Believe me when I say that it is not my intent to blame the victim, but it is a shame that she didn't come forward sooner. I'm sure many more women were victims of that POS after her. I hope that these stories will influence future victims to come forward much sooner.

Rausch
12-14-2017, 09:15 AM
When I started reading that I couldn't help but think typical NYT BS when she mentioned the part about Trump being accused of sexual harassment.

It's not uncommon for a woman to funnel that frustration and rage from a person who deserves it but (they don't think) can be hurt to someone they feel they can.

And Judd is clearly crazy but I at least have empathy now and know why.

If even 25% of what Harvey's accused of is true the best thing he could do would be to eat a bullet and give these women some closure...

DaneMcCloud
12-14-2017, 09:56 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/14/nfl-network-exec-deletes-his-twitter-after-exchanges-with-porn-stars-escorts-exposed.html

NFL Network exec deletes Twitter account after exchanges with porn stars, escorts exposed

An NFL Network exec has deleted his Twitter account after multiple exchanges between him and adult film stars were revealed. Deadspin reported Vice President and Executive Editor for NFL Media, David Eaton, went into a frenzy Wednesday attempting to delete "years worth" of tweets he had sent to porn stars and escorts. Eaton shut down the account one day after Mashall Faulk, Ike Taylor and Heath Evans were suspended by NFL Network for being named in a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by a former wardrobe stylist.

Screenshots obtained by Deadspin show Eaton tweeted multiple times with porn star Zoey Holloway. "Love getting on Twitter to see a tweet that I am over the hill," Holloway tweeted in June 2013, to which Eaton replied, "Always better to be 'over' than 'under' when it comes to hills." Eaton reportedly also engaged in conversation with an escort in 2015 about one of her clients and tweeted with two additional escorts in 2013. In April 2015, he discussed literature with a Twitter handle whose icon is a photo of a topless woman.

Former NFL Network employees told Deadspin that Eaton's Twitter escapades were "an ongoing subject of discussion" at the company. A rep for NFL Network did not return Fox News' request for comment. Eaton joined NFL Network in 2011. He previously worked for ABC News for 11 years, serving as bureau chief in Los Angeles and Atlanta.

DaneMcCloud
12-14-2017, 10:00 AM
Now that being said, her story of her history with Weinstein is horrible. He's a monster. And I agree that people like this need to be outed and removed from positions of power. I can't even relate to how a victim deals with this kind of stuff over a long period of time like she did.

Believe me when I say that it is not my intent to blame the victim, but it is a shame that she didn't come forward sooner. I'm sure many more women were victims of that POS after her. I hope that these stories will influence future victims to come forward much sooner.

Wow, you just missed the entire point of her essay.

It took years for her to come to the realization that she was being manipulated and abused by Weinstein, which all came to a head when she had to perform a nude scene that wasn't intended to be a part of the film. It was done on Weinstein's insistence. She's scarred by it, still.

If she had come forward sooner, Weinstein would have ruined her career. That's how much power Weinstein held.