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The Franchise
01-02-2018, 08:56 PM
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports the Bears have requested to interview Chiefs OC Matt Nagy.

Nagy has now been linked to the Colts and Bears this week. He won’t be able to interview until the Chiefs are done with the playoffs. The Bears seem zeroed I’m on an offensive mind to work with last year’s No. 2 overall pick, Mitchell Trubisky. Chicago is trying to find its version of Sean McVay.

RunKC
01-02-2018, 08:57 PM
Damnit

Nagy would be great for Trubisky though

Buehler445
01-02-2018, 08:58 PM
The answer is no motherfuckers.

St. Patty's Fire
01-02-2018, 08:59 PM
Audibly yelled no when i saw the title

That would be pretty much the perfect hire for chicago though

pugsnotdrugs19
01-02-2018, 09:05 PM
Obviously we have no idea what is going through he or Andy's mind, but I don't think he'd be crazy to stick around until Reid retires... assuming that's in the next 5 years of course. He'd get to work under his buddy Veach.

But maybe Andy feels like he has more left in him than that..

Titty Meat
01-02-2018, 09:08 PM
Kafhka is the guy who's been working alot with Pat anyway

DaFace
01-02-2018, 09:08 PM
I sure hope we can hang onto him for at least a couple years with Mahomes.

MahiMike
01-02-2018, 09:09 PM
Also hearing Toub will get an interview.

mnchiefsguy
01-02-2018, 09:15 PM
Even more important to win a playoff game now. The deeper the Chiefs go, the more likely it is that Chicago/Indy/etc. will get impatient and settle on a candidate that they interview during the bye week.

DaneMcCloud
01-02-2018, 09:18 PM
I don't really care about losing Toub.

He's great when he has elite talent like Tyreek Hill and Devin Hester but just a normal dude when he's got average players.

As much as I'd like Nagy to stay, Kafka's been coaching up Alex and Pat plus Chilly is around overseeing all of it with Reid.

I would *think* that Nagy would like to stick around and work with his college teammate and long time friend, Brett Veach, but when the big bucks are offered, he would be silly to stick around.

RINGLEADER
01-02-2018, 09:24 PM
Not surprising at all.

Red Dawg
01-02-2018, 09:57 PM
Hell no. Naggy is ours.

In58men
01-02-2018, 09:58 PM
He gone

TambaBerry
01-02-2018, 10:17 PM
I'd rather keep him over Reid. Reid ain't winning shit as a head coach

wazu
01-02-2018, 10:21 PM
Reid seems to be pretty good at reloading his assistant coaching positions. And he’ll have his pick because everybody knows whomever he hires will be on shortlists for HC positions in 2 years.

Mr_Tomahawk
01-02-2018, 10:22 PM
Make him the assistant coach and tell him the job is his when Andy Leaves.

I more or less just want to keep PM in a consistent system.

JakeF
01-02-2018, 10:28 PM
As soon as Reid gave Nagy playcalling duties i considered him gone. Just like Pederson.

Ming the Merciless
01-02-2018, 10:30 PM
damn....

I like the idea of making him an assistant HC and promising him the HC job when andy leaves....

wonder if that would be enough

In58men
01-02-2018, 10:33 PM
Nagy will announce his departure right before the playoff game like Charlie Weis did lol.

RealSNR
01-02-2018, 10:40 PM
NFL needs to tell head coach-needy teams to fuck off and die. Put in a rule that says you can't even ask permission until after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention.

What fucking good does it do to let them request the interview? They're just going to have to wait for the interview anyway. That could be a long time like we had to do with Haley in 2009.

As far as I'm concerned, this shit is just as bad as fucking tampering. Even just requesting the interview.

thabear04
01-02-2018, 10:44 PM
Hope the Bears and Colts find their HC this Friday non chiefs coaches.

Eleazar
01-02-2018, 10:56 PM
I'd rather keep him over Reid. Reid ain't winning shit as a head coach

Yep, just like Pederson

ChiefAshhole1056
01-02-2018, 11:00 PM
I can live with Toub leaving, but I really want to hold onto Nagy. I feel like the offense has been clicking ever since he took over play calling and he seemed to know the type of offense he wants to run with Mahomes.

I’m trying to figure out which situations would be considered “greener pastures” than the one he has here, especially if Andy anoints him as next up.

Chi- I suppose it depends how he feels about Trubisky, but if I’m weighing him versus Pat I feel i can unbiasedly say Pat is the one I’d want to run my team. Besides, I think this is Toub’s job.
Ind- Get to work with Ballard (not even going to act like I know how their dynamic is) and possibly an elite QB depending on Luck’s shoulder. However, Irsay may be a crazy person.
NYG- You get Odell and probably your pick of the litter in this years QB class. The media will be a different type of beast there, idk how he feels about that.
Det- Stafford and a “meh” surrounding roster. Not an awful situation but i don’t think I’d personally want to miss out on potential SB opportunities in KC for Detroit.
Oak- I’m praying Gruden takes this.
Ari- This team is cascading into rebuild mode and I don’t see why Nagy would want to tie himself to this scenario.

Rain Man
01-02-2018, 11:02 PM
NFL needs to tell head coach-needy teams to **** off and die. Put in a rule that says you can't even ask permission until after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention.

What ****ing good does it do to let them request the interview? They're just going to have to wait for the interview anyway. That could be a long time like we had to do with Haley in 2009.

As far as I'm concerned, this shit is just as bad as ****ing tampering. Even just requesting the interview.

I still contend that this cost us the 1995 playoff game. As bad as Paul Hackett was, I figure that he just mailed in the playoff game plan after he got hired by USC or wherever.

The Chiefs should request to interview the Titans' assistant coaches today.

wazu
01-02-2018, 11:06 PM
I still contend that this cost us the 1995 playoff game. As bad as Paul Hackett was, I figure that he just mailed in the playoff game plan after he got hired by USC or wherever.

The Chiefs should request to interview the Titans' assistant coaches today.

One correction: I’m pretty sure that was ‘97.

Chiefs=Champions
01-03-2018, 07:49 AM
I feel like 1st time nfl head coaches often rush into bad positions. You only have so many chances, keep being an assistant untill the perfect opportunity comes up and allow yourself to have a 5+ career instead of a 1-2 tenure.

Hoover
01-03-2018, 08:07 AM
This is where we need a friendly reporter to write up an article on the critical role Brad Childress has played with the Chiefs offense and getting Mahomes ready for his first start. Maybe also an article on Dave Toubs units with Hill and Hester and without? Why can’t we block kicks?

You know just some counter messaging!

mcaj22
01-03-2018, 08:08 AM
I feel like 1st time nfl head coaches often rush into bad positions. You only have so many chances, keep being an assistant untill the perfect opportunity comes up and allow yourself to have a 5+ career instead of a 1-2 tenure.

is there even an assistant in the league that sat and waited for a coach to retire? Ben McAdoo? Who was a disaster.

McDaniels and Patricia arent even waiting for Belichick.

If youre a young mind you definitely take the HC gig.

KCUnited
01-03-2018, 08:14 AM
I have 0 confidence in Ryan Pace making a good coaching decision. So if Nagy is indeed worth a damn, the Bears will certainly go in a different direction.

Chicago Bears general manager Ryan Pace said Monday that quarterback Mitchell Trubisky may play a part in the team's head coaching search.

Regarding Trubisky helping determine who Chicago hires, Pace said, "It's something we're evaluating," according to the team's official Twitter account.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 08:33 AM
is there even an assistant in the league that sat and waited for a coach to retire? Ben McAdoo? Who was a disaster.

McDaniels and Patricia arent even waiting for Belichick.

If youre a young mind you definitely take the HC gig.

Not even the hoodie and co. could get Cleveland turned around...

Chiefs=Champions
01-03-2018, 08:43 AM
is there even an assistant in the league that sat and waited for a coach to retire? Ben McAdoo? Who was a disaster.

McDaniels and Patricia arent even waiting for Belichick.

If youre a young mind you definitely take the HC gig.

I didnt say wait for someone to retire, just dont take the first opportunity that arises.

chiefzilla1501
01-03-2018, 09:00 AM
You're 39 years old. You have the option of being head coach for a team where your entire career depends on turning mitch trubisky into a playoff qb. Or you have the option to stick around a year or 2 and work with pat mahomes and make him look like a capable qb.

Yeah, if I'm Nagy, I play the field. But this is not the job to take.

BigRedChief
01-03-2018, 09:00 AM
Has there ever been a professional coaching situation where the Coordinator has been publicly declared the current Head Coach in waiting when the Head Coach retires/moves on?

King_Chief_Fan
01-03-2018, 09:11 AM
Has there ever been a professional coaching situation where the Coordinator has been publicly declared the current Head Coach in waiting when the Head Coach retires/moves on?

Not sure...wasnt Garret the heir apparent in Dallas?

Frazod
01-03-2018, 09:26 AM
I have 0 confidence in Ryan Pace making a good coaching decision. So if Nagy is indeed worth a damn, the Bears will certainly go in a different direction.

Pace must have incriminating photos of the McCaskeys raping a squirrel or something. You've got a team full of holes, so what do you do? Dump all that money on Glennon, then trade a bunch of picks to move up ONE SPOT to grab Trubisky, who would have certainly still been there at 3. They should have sent somebody down there to slit his throat after that. And then after an injury-riddled disaster of a season, Fox gets thrown under the bus yet this prick gets an extension. Not that Fox is a great coach or anything, but he's George fucking Halas compared to Pace as a GM.

I don't see how anybody in their right mind would go to the Bears right now.

KCUnited
01-03-2018, 09:44 AM
Pace must have incriminating photos of the McCaskeys raping a squirrel or something. You've got a team full of holes, so what do you do? Dump all that money on Glennon, then trade a bunch of picks to move up ONE SPOT to grab Trubisky, who would have certainly still been there at 3. They should have sent somebody down there to slit his throat after that. And then after an injury-riddled disaster of a season, Fox gets thrown under the bus yet this prick gets an extension. Not that Fox is a great coach or anything, but he's George fucking Halas compared to Pace as a GM.

I don't see how anybody in their right mind would go to the Bears right now.
Especially since Fox didn't even know about the Trubisky move until an hour or so before the trade. Huge red flag if I'm entertaining a HC job under Pace. I think Trubisky is an enticing piece and I like Fangio as a DC, but the Bears front office is complete shit. Fox is a buffoon that needed to go, but they should've flushed them as a pair.

King_Chief_Fan
01-03-2018, 09:46 AM
Should Nagy leave, what do we have left for OC?
Reid playing that role again is dooms day for this team

Rasputin
01-03-2018, 09:49 AM
I think there should be a rule that teams can't ask other teams to interview a coach until after that team is eliminated from playoffs. Not the playoff team fault you fired your coach.

mikeyis4dcats.
01-03-2018, 09:51 AM
If I was a playoff team I'd make it known that I'll deny every request until we are done playing to avoid the distraction.

BleedingRed
01-03-2018, 09:52 AM
I think there should be a rule that teams can't ask other teams to interview a coach until after that team is eliminated from playoffs. Not the playoff team fault you fired your coach.

God, I know right? Like what the fuck is the rush?

Rausch
01-03-2018, 09:54 AM
Chicago is trying to become the new Cleveland.

wazu
01-03-2018, 09:54 AM
If I was a playoff team I'd make it known that I'll deny every request until we are done playing to avoid the distraction.

That will create even more distractions.

Frazod
01-03-2018, 09:55 AM
Especially since Fox didn't even know about the Trubisky move until an hour or so before the trade. Huge red flag if I'm entertaining a HC job under Pace. I think Trubisky is an enticing piece and I like Fangio as a DC, but the Bears front office is complete shit. Fox is a buffoon that needed to go, but they should've flushed them as a pair.

Yeah, Bears ownership is horrid. They should absolutely be a perennial contender given their market size and national fan base. Instead they're nothing more than Green Bay's bitch and a place where coaching careers go to die.

wazu
01-03-2018, 09:56 AM
Should Nagy leave, what do we have left for OC?
Reid playing that role again is dooms day for this team

Reid will be fine if Alex is gone.

King_Chief_Fan
01-03-2018, 09:59 AM
Reid will be fine if Alex is gone.

are you sure?
I hate to see Mahomes become Smith II with all that ridiculous dink, dunk safe play crap.

11Chiefs
01-03-2018, 10:00 AM
So the first question Nagy asks Reid after the last game... "Are you taking play calling back?"

Would hate to lose Nagy, but he either gets some kind of promotion or he's probably gone.

mikeyis4dcats.
01-03-2018, 10:05 AM
That will create even more distractions.

how so? you get a request and you immediately make it known around the league that you denied it and will deny every single request whle the team plays. Then there are no more requests to worry about.

SAGA45
01-03-2018, 10:06 AM
So the first question Nagy asks Reid after the last game... "Are you taking play calling back?"

Would hate to lose Nagy, but he either gets some kind of promotion or he's probably gone.

They have to promote him....whatever the next step up is...Assistant HC....hell get creative...Assistant HC/Associate Director of Player Personnel...SOMEthing!

The Franchise
01-03-2018, 10:07 AM
God, I know right? Like what the fuck is the rush?

Getting your staff together before they've all taken other jobs.
Spending time figuring out the needs of the team that you just took over.
Getting prepared for free agency and the draft.

You know.....nothing to do.

mlyonsd
01-03-2018, 10:07 AM
are you sure?
I hate to see Mahomes become Smith II with all that ridiculous dink, dunk safe play crap.

This.

wazu
01-03-2018, 10:08 AM
how so? you get a request and you immediately make it known around the league that you denied it and will deny every single request whle the team plays. Then there are no more requests to worry about.

If I’m a rival team I make the request anyway. Let the assistants know their boss is preventing them from advancing their careers. Let follow up questions rain down from media to coaches and players throughout the playoffs. Unleash hell.

DJ's left nut
01-03-2018, 10:08 AM
I feel like 1st time nfl head coaches often rush into bad positions. You only have so many chances, keep being an assistant untill the perfect opportunity comes up and allow yourself to have a 5+ career instead of a 1-2 tenure.

Or if Mahomes stumbles next year, Nagy ends up wearing the goat horns for it and falls off short lists.

Think of Nagy as a college junior thinking about leaving early. He gets a 'top 5 pick' grade. He's probably going to have his pick of any available jobs right now - I think he's the best candidate on the market and the offensive resurgence after it was announced he was calling plays only reinforces that. Hell, Doug Pederson's success will help sell him as well.

So back to the analogy, if you're a prospect and you get a top 5 grade, would it really be smart to go back to college another year on the chance of improving it to top 3? Or consensus 1? I wouldn't think so - the downside is that you go all Matt Barkley and lose out on tens of millions while never really getting an opportunity to shine either way.

If Nagy takes the Colts job, he's a head coach with Andrew Luck, TY Hilton and some solid complementary parts. He's an O-Line rebuild away from having a truly dynamic offense (bearing in mind that he may not even need that - Luck's never had an OL worth a damn and still puts up points when healthy).

If he passes to wait for a better job...what's that job? Hell, even if a SB winner retires and he takes over, there's nowhere to go but down. A great situation is a team that's either just entering or just emerging from a rebuild with a new front office. That situation is going to get you 5 years of rope and a lot of runway. If you can't turn a team around in 4-5 years or at least show signs of it happening, you don't deserve the gig anyway.

There are several jobs (Giants, Colts, Bears) that are no brainers for him, IMO. And even a couple others like the Lions and Cardinals that would be decent fits. The Cards are getting a new quarterback and still have David Johnson. Nagy will get plenty of rope there and has the best all-purpose back in the league to help him ease a transition not to mention a damn talented young defense that could help cover his warts as an offense-first guy.

Nagy's gone unless we can win a SB and Andy retires on top.

The Franchise
01-03-2018, 10:12 AM
Or if Mahomes stumbles next year, Nagy ends up wearing the goat horns for it and falls off short lists.

Think of Nagy as a college junior thinking about leaving early. He gets a 'top 5 pick' grade. He's probably going to have his pick of any available jobs right now - I think he's the best candidate on the market and the offensive resurgence after it was announced he was calling plays only reinforces that. Hell, Doug Pederson's success will help sell him as well.

So back to the analogy, if you're a prospect and you get a top 5 grade, would it really be smart to go back to college another year on the chance of improving it to top 3? Or consensus 1? I wouldn't think so - the downside is that you go all Matt Barkley and lose out on tens of millions while never really getting an opportunity to shine either way.

If Nagy takes the Colts job, he's a head coach with Andrew Luck, TY Hilton and some solid complementary parts. He's an O-Line rebuild away from having a truly dynamic offense (bearing in mind that he may not even need that - Luck's never had an OL worth a damn and still puts up points when healthy).

If he passes to wait for a better job...what's that job? Hell, even if a SB winner retires and he takes over, there's nowhere to go but down. A great situation is a team that's either just entering or just emerging from a rebuild with a new front office. That situation is going to get you 5 years of rope and a lot of runway. If you can't turn a team around in 4-5 years or at least show signs of it happening, you don't deserve the gig anyway.

There are several jobs (Giants, Colts, Bears) that are no brainers for him, IMO. And even a couple others like the Lions and Cardinals that would be decent fits. The Cards are getting a new quarterback and still have David Johnson. Nagy will get plenty of rope there and has the best all-purpose back in the league to help him ease a transition not to mention a damn talented young defense that could help cover his warts as an offense-first guy.

Nagy's gone unless we can win a SB and Andy retires on top.

I'd love to see him stay.....but you pretty much hit the nail on the head. There's no way I'm touching that Bears job if I'm him though.

O.city
01-03-2018, 10:12 AM
Only hope is that he wants to stay and hopefully take over Mahomes in a few years but that’s risky as DJ pointed out.

Sucks

Easy 6
01-03-2018, 10:16 AM
Reid will be fine if Alex is gone.

are you sure?
I hate to see Mahomes become Smith II with all that ridiculous dink, dunk safe play crap.

I agree with wazu, no one better knows what Mahomes is than Reid

He isnt going to restrain the most dynamic QB he has ever had

DJ's left nut
01-03-2018, 10:19 AM
I'd love to see him stay.....but you pretty much hit the nail on the head. There's no way I'm touching that Bears job if I'm him though.

If he can get Trubisky to even make it into the top 1/2 of NFL quarterbacks in the next 2 years, he's in a fantastic spot. He'd start to get that 'quarterback whisperer' reputation after Mahomes development and Smith's career year. He'd effectively get 'royalties' on what Mahomes does when he leaves (hell, he'd get credit if Mahomes fails).

And if Trubisky plateaus, he gets to say "Mitch is a fine passer but he wasn't my guy" when they move on from him. He'll get a few more years after that to establish a new guy.

All Nagy would have to do to have a virtually guaranteed 6-8 year career in Chicago is turn Mitch Trubisky into an average passer in the next 2 seasons. With Howard as a bellcow and Cohen as a hell of a swiss army knife, not to mention Meridith returning, that's not an outlandish ask.

BryanBusby
01-03-2018, 10:22 AM
The problem for Nagy in Chicago is Pace is a shitty ass GM and the Bears will eventually figure it out.

Having a shitty GM makes your job harder and once they cut him loose, you're probably fucked and it's real hard to get another gig if you blow the first one.

Can't empathize nearly enough just how much Pace sucks asshole at his job and amazed he kept his job. He fucking sucks.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 10:25 AM
Or if Mahomes stumbles next year, Nagy ends up wearing the goat horns for it and falls off short lists.

Think of Nagy as a college junior thinking about leaving early. He gets a 'top 5 pick' grade. He's probably going to have his pick of any available jobs right now - I think he's the best candidate on the market and the offensive resurgence after it was announced he was calling plays only reinforces that. Hell, Doug Pederson's success will help sell him as well.

Keep in mind that who picks in the top 10 sometimes plays into the thinking of returning for one more year.

The Colts, Bears, and Giants are all in horrible shape right now. If Luck can play next year (and right now that's very unclear) I'd take the Colts off the list.

If Dorsey hired Naggy to coach in Cleveland (as big a dumpster fire as that team is) I'd think that job would be more desirable. Dorsey knows Naggy and Andy would go to bat for him. There's a relationship there, Cleveland has a ton of picks again this year, and I think Dorsey wouldn't fire him after 1 season.

If things go bad in NY or Chicago after 1 year you're out and the perception is you weren't ready...

Easy 6
01-03-2018, 10:25 AM
If Nagy is shrewd, tough negotiator, theres nothing stopping him from demanding a heavy hand in personnel decisions to counter any idiocy Pace might dream up

RunKC
01-03-2018, 10:28 AM
Nagy would be a huge hire for the Bears, but I wouldn’t take the job if I was Nagy.

Rodgers will still be there for at least 5-7 more years, Stafford will be there for another decade and the Vikings have a very good team.

Not exactly a good spot to succeed in the next 2-3 years.

chiefzilla1501
01-03-2018, 10:45 AM
Or if Mahomes stumbles next year, Nagy ends up wearing the goat horns for it and falls off short lists.

Think of Nagy as a college junior thinking about leaving early. He gets a 'top 5 pick' grade. He's probably going to have his pick of any available jobs right now - I think he's the best candidate on the market and the offensive resurgence after it was announced he was calling plays only reinforces that. Hell, Doug Pederson's success will help sell him as well.

So back to the analogy, if you're a prospect and you get a top 5 grade, would it really be smart to go back to college another year on the chance of improving it to top 3? Or consensus 1? I wouldn't think so - the downside is that you go all Matt Barkley and lose out on tens of millions while never really getting an opportunity to shine either way.

If Nagy takes the Colts job, he's a head coach with Andrew Luck, TY Hilton and some solid complementary parts. He's an O-Line rebuild away from having a truly dynamic offense (bearing in mind that he may not even need that - Luck's never had an OL worth a damn and still puts up points when healthy).

If he passes to wait for a better job...what's that job? Hell, even if a SB winner retires and he takes over, there's nowhere to go but down. A great situation is a team that's either just entering or just emerging from a rebuild with a new front office. That situation is going to get you 5 years of rope and a lot of runway. If you can't turn a team around in 4-5 years or at least show signs of it happening, you don't deserve the gig anyway.

There are several jobs (Giants, Colts, Bears) that are no brainers for him, IMO. And even a couple others like the Lions and Cardinals that would be decent fits. The Cards are getting a new quarterback and still have David Johnson. Nagy will get plenty of rope there and has the best all-purpose back in the league to help him ease a transition not to mention a damn talented young defense that could help cover his warts as an offense-first guy.

Nagy's gone unless we can win a SB and Andy retires on top.

I don't think so. They'll blame Reid and dorsey and veach for drafting the wrong qb. Worst case scenario, he falls off the hot list for a year or 2, then gets back on it. If Nagy fails to develop trubisky, it will be decades if ever before he gets a head coaching position again. And if that fails, he'll fall back to an oc job at a crappy team or fall further backwards into positions coach.

Nagy is young and he has Reid as a safety net. If he waits one year and mahomes plays well the he gets to pick what team he wants to coach, not the other way around. And if he fails there as a head coach, people will remember he was a great oc and he will be top of the list for OC, especially for the many coaches on Reid's tree. If I'm nagy I'm extremely picky. Either a job with a Reid GM or the best of the best available. If that's not an option, wait one year.

chiefzilla1501
01-03-2018, 10:46 AM
Also, keep in mind Ballard worked in Chicago. I bet he has plenty of inside Intel that he will share with nagy to stay the hell away from that job.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 10:49 AM
Nagy is young and he has Reid as a safety net. If he waits one year and mahomes plays well the he gets to pick what team he wants to coach, not the other way around. And if he fails there as a head coach, people will remember he was a great oc and he will be top of the list for OC, especially for the many coaches on Reid's tree. If I'm nagy I'm extremely picky. Either a job with a Reid GM or the best of the best available. If that's not an option, wait one year.

This.

This is not the year be someone's one season stand...

Quesadilla Joe
01-03-2018, 11:01 AM
You're not going to always be the "hot coordinator". Adam Gase called plays for the highest scoring offense in NFL history in 2013, turned down job offers in 2014, and then couldn't get a HC'ing job in 2015.

You have to strike while your name is hot because there are no guarantees that you'll get another shot. Nagy probably makes like, what, $700k per year? Why would he turn down a fully guaranteed 4 year, $4M+ per year contract? Clark doesn't seem like the kind of owner who'd pay out the ass to keep him for another year or two either.

The Franchise
01-03-2018, 11:10 AM
You're not going to always be the "hot coordinator". Adam Gase called plays for the highest scoring offense in NFL history in 2013, turned down job offers in 2014, and then couldn't get a HC'ing job in 2015.



Except then he got a HC job in 2016.

RunKC
01-03-2018, 11:14 AM
You're not going to always be the "hot coordinator". Adam Gase called plays for the highest scoring offense in NFL history in 2013, turned down job offers in 2014, and then couldn't get a HC'ing job in 2015.

Because John Elway treated Adam Gase like shit by bad mouthing him.

ModSocks
01-03-2018, 11:14 AM
I don't understand those who hate Reid but love his coordinators.

He taught his coordinators.

His coordinators found success running HIS playbook.

Reid has a long history of turning out assistant coaches, which means if you have Reid, you can bet your ass that he will have yet another excellent assistant coach.

Would you rather have a Ferrari, or the whole damn factory?

I swear, the logic of some people is just baffling.

ModSocks
01-03-2018, 11:18 AM
Coming into this season no one gave two fucks about Matt Nagy. Just like no one gave a shit about Doug Pederson before him. Pederson was casted as just another career Reid crony.

Reid literally brought Naggy and Pederson into coaching, taught them everything they know about coaching, now all of a sudden i'm to believe they're better coaches than Reid?

At the start of the season NO ONE was talking about Naggy. Childress was pegged as Reid's offensive assistant.

Bowser
01-03-2018, 11:19 AM
Piss off, Chicago. You too, Indy.







But yeah, he's likely gone. Andrew Luck is just too big of a carrot to not pay attention to, especially if his shoulder is finally back to being right "IF" being the operative word

staylor26
01-03-2018, 11:22 AM
Yea I don’t see any reason why Kafka can’t gives us what Pederson and Nagy did.

I will say that I liked the idea of Veach/Nagy being the future GM/HC duo, but it was never realistic.

Hammock Parties
01-03-2018, 11:23 AM
well, bye

Rausch
01-03-2018, 11:25 AM
Piss off, Chicago. You too, Indy.


This.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 11:25 AM
Yea I don’t see any reason why Kafka can’t gives us what Pederson and Nagy did.

I will say that I liked the idea of Veach/Nagy being the future GM/HC duo, but it was never realistic.

I'd like 2 reasons why you think Kafka can...

staylor26
01-03-2018, 11:29 AM
I'd like 2 reasons why you think Kafka can...

1. Doug Pederson
2. Matt Nagy

Give me 2 reasons why he can’t.

Reid consistently turns guys like Kafka into good position coaches/coordinators. There’s no reason to think he won’t continue this trend with Kafka.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 11:31 AM
1. Doug Pederson
2. Matt Nagy

Give me 2 reasons why he can’t.

1) He's proven nothing.

You've only stated things other people have done - not him.

2) He joined the team this year. Just this year.

Allow me to be skeptical about his knowledge of the offense and how players best fit it...

Easy 6
01-03-2018, 11:31 AM
I don't understand those who hate Reid but love his coordinators.

He taught his coordinators.

His coordinators found success running HIS playbook.

Reid has a long history of turning out assistant coaches, which means if you have Reid, you can bet your ass that he will have yet another excellent assistant coach.

Would you rather have a Ferrari, or the whole damn factory?

I swear, the logic of some people is just baffling.

Well stated

staylor26
01-03-2018, 11:33 AM
1) He's proven nothing.

You've only stated things other people have done - not him.

2) See #1...

What the fuck did Pederson or Nagy prove before they got the job?

My reasoning as to why I think we’d be fine with Kafka makes a lot more sense than yours.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 11:34 AM
What the **** did Pederson or Nagy prove before they got the job?

My reasoning as to why I think we’d be fine with Kafka makes a lot more sense than yours.

How long did Pederson serve under Reid?

Naggy?

Exactly...

chiefzilla1501
01-03-2018, 11:35 AM
Coming into this season no one gave two ****s about Matt Nagy. Just like no one gave a shit about Doug Pederson before him. Pederson was casted as just another career Reid crony.

Reid literally brought Naggy and Pederson into coaching, taught them everything they know about coaching, now all of a sudden i'm to believe they're better coaches than Reid?

At the start of the season NO ONE was talking about Naggy. Childress was pegged as Reid's offensive assistant.

I disagree. Pederson was always a Reid lackey, in my opinion. Even knowing Pederson has turned into a good head coach, I'd rather nagy running our offense than Pederson. Nagy seems a lot more open to a more innovative offense and every interview you hear from him he's pushed Alex Smith to open up the offense. This is a loss id rather not have. But yeah, it's not the end of the world if he leaves because Reid is going to control the next offense no matter who until Kafka or whoever proves they can coordinate independently under his standards. I don't love Reid running the offense, but it's not a bad fallback.

ModSocks
01-03-2018, 11:38 AM
I disagree. Pederson was always a Reid lackey, in my opinion. Even knowing Pederson has turned into a good head coach, I'd rather nagy running our offense than Pederson. Nagy seems a lot more open to a more innovative offense and every interview you hear from him he's pushed Alex Smith to open up the offense. This is a loss id rather not have. But yeah, it's not the end of the world if he leaves because Reid is going to control the next offense no matter who until Kafka or whoever proves they can coordinate independently under his standards. I don't love Reid running the offense, but it's not a bad fallback.

You're aware that Nagy was brought into coaching by Reid in Philly, correct? Nagy has also always been a Reid lackey.

Nagy was freakin' coaching HS ball when Reid brought him in as a coaching intern.

KChiefs1
01-03-2018, 11:45 AM
Damnit

Nagy would be great for Trubisky though



I thought they were targeting McDaniels?

chiefzilla1501
01-03-2018, 11:48 AM
You're aware that Nagy was brought into coaching by Reid in Philly, correct? Nagy has also always been a Reid lackey.

Nagy was freakin' coaching HS ball when Reid brought him in as a coaching intern.

I know he's a Reid lackey. My point is Pederson felt like he was installing Reid's offense. Even when Reid handed the offense to Pederson, it didn't seem like a sincere endorsement. With nagy, the offense feels different especially the emphasis on downfield passing. And Reid handing nagy the offense a few weeks ago seemed like Reid was sincerely handing him the keys. I never got excited for Pederson and didn't care when he left. I was high on nagy before the year and don't want to see him go

Quesadilla Joe
01-03-2018, 11:48 AM
Except then he got a HC job in 2016.

Yeah, that's a great job. Tom Brady is in your division and you have to try to compete against him with Ryan Tannehill.

staylor26
01-03-2018, 11:50 AM
How long did Pederson serve under Reid?

Naggy?

Exactly...

You’re completely missing the point that Reid continues to develop assistant coaches into good coordinators and potential HC’s.

It’s not a stretch at all to think that we will be fine with Reid/Childress/Kafka. It’s not like I’m saying Kafka is going to be a future HC.

The Franchise
01-03-2018, 11:54 AM
Yeah, that's a great job. Tom Brady is in your division and you have to try to compete against him with Ryan Tannehill.

Then you're contradicting yourself.

Why would Nagy want to take the Bears coaching job when he's stuck in a division with Aaron Rodgers and the great Vikings team?

Quesadilla Joe
01-03-2018, 12:05 PM
Then you're contradicting yourself.

Why would Nagy want to take the Bears coaching job when he's stuck in a division with Aaron Rodgers and the great Vikings team?

I wasn't talking about any specific job, but yeah, if I had a choice the Bears job wouldn't be #1 on my list. It would still be pretty hard to turn down HC money.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 12:07 PM
You’re completely missing the point that Reid continues to develop assistant coaches into good coordinators and potential HC’s.

It’s not a stretch at all to think that we will be fine with Reid/Childress/Kafka. It’s not like I’m saying Kafka is going to be a future HC.

It's not a stretch at all that he see's great coaching talent.

It's also not a stretch to say someone unproven is unproven...

chiefzilla1501
01-03-2018, 12:19 PM
It's not a stretch at all that he see's great coaching talent.

It's also not a stretch to say someone unproven is unproven...

The big difference is, though, that the floor is high. Reid will run the offense until he feels very confident that Kafka or whomever is ready to call plays independently. Much as we may gripe about Reid's offensive playcalling, it's a really high floor. So the good news is our offense is going to be fine no matter who we hire.

Chief Roundup
01-03-2018, 12:37 PM
I think there should be a rule that teams can't ask other teams to interview a coach until after that team is eliminated from playoffs. Not the playoff team fault you fired your coach.Never fly. It is not fair to the coordinators and others that have an opportunity to advanvce their careers.
Also no team can refuse to let a coach interview for a position that is above his current position.

Sent from my SM-S906L using Tapatalk

Rausch
01-03-2018, 12:40 PM
The big difference is, though, that the floor is high.

Based on?...

Reid will run the offense until he feels very confident that Kafka or whomever is ready to call plays independently. Much as we may gripe about Reid's offensive playcalling, it's a really high floor. So the good news is our offense is going to be fine no matter who we hire.

No, Reid is more likely to go back to his old ways once a proven guy is out of the fold.

Hurts us, and hurts Naggy...

Titty Meat
01-03-2018, 12:42 PM
Kafka was a pretty damn good QB at Northwestern and has done a damn good job at QB coach /Mahomes mentor. He's more than qualified to be our next OC. Nagy leaving really isn't a big deal.

Quesadilla Joe
01-03-2018, 12:42 PM
Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Nagy confirmed to me he will interview for the head coaching openings with the Colts and Bears but said he won’t let that interfere with his work. “It really doesn’t. Coach (Andy Reid) has been really good to me in knowing this process and explaining how to go about this. One thing you try to do is prepare ahead of time so that there’s no crunch, no crash course, that goes on. So I’ve been doing that. One thing I made very (clear) to coach is that nothing is going to take away from anything I do in this game. That was very clear. That’s (not) going to happen . . . The biggest thing is just making sure you put these horse blinders on and you focus. You’ve got to focus on this game. It’s not fair (otherwise) . . . If you start getting your mind off on something else, you’re neglecting (the other coaches and players) and I refuse to do that.’’http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40014726-4

Rausch
01-03-2018, 12:43 PM
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40014726-4

So we're fucked...

JakeF
01-03-2018, 12:48 PM
Kafka was a pretty damn good QB at Northwestern and has done a damn good job at QB coach /Mahomes mentor. He's more than qualified to be our next OC. Nagy leaving really isn't a big deal.Untrue.

Reid trusted Nagy with more responsibility than he'll likely the next guy. Our offense is better when Reid shares control, too much Andy isn't a good thing.

JakeF
01-03-2018, 12:54 PM
I don't understand those who hate Reid but love his coordinators.

He taught his coordinators.

His coordinators found success running HIS playbook.

Reid has a long history of turning out assistant coaches, which means if you have Reid, you can bet your ass that he will have yet another excellent assistant coach.

Would you rather have a Ferrari, or the whole damn factory?

I swear, the logic of some people is just baffling.Because the offense seems to run better when Andy Reid gives up at least some control. Our offense looks its best when Reid develop the game plan and oversees the entire thing but someone else calls the play.

ModSocks
01-03-2018, 12:55 PM
Because the offense seems to run better when Andy Reid gives up at least some control. Our offense looks its best when Reid develop the game plan and oversees the entire thing but someone else calls the play.

Who was calling the plays weeks 1-5?

Chiefnj2
01-03-2018, 12:57 PM
I don't understand those who hate Reid but love his coordinators.

He taught his coordinators.

His coordinators found success running HIS playbook.
.

His coordinators found success calling plays and attacking the game in a different manner than Reid.

Look at the number of carries Hunt had during the slump and look at the number the last 4-5 games with Nagy calling plays.

JakeF
01-03-2018, 12:57 PM
Who was calling the plays weeks 1-5?
You asked why the love for the offensive coordinators and I gave it to you. You disagree.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 12:58 PM
Untrue.

Reid trusted Nagy with more responsibility than he'll likely the next guy. Our offense is better when Reid shares control, too much Andy isn't a good thing.

This.

EXACTLY this...

Jamie
01-03-2018, 01:17 PM
You guys need to slow your roll on Mike Kafka. He's been a quality control coach for one year, he's not even the assistant QB coach.

I'd imagine if Nagy leaves Corey Matthaei becomes QB coach, Kafka maybe becomes asst. QB coach, and Childress becomes OC again.

The Franchise
01-03-2018, 01:19 PM
You guys need to slow your roll on Mike Kafka. He's been a quality control coach for one year, he's not even the assistant QB coach.

I'd imagine if Nagy leaves Corey Matthaei becomes QB coach, Kafka maybe becomes asst. QB coach, and Childress becomes OC again.

And that's the part I don't want.

DaneMcCloud
01-03-2018, 01:25 PM
You asked why the love for the offensive coordinators and I gave it to you. You disagree.

LMAO

You failed to answer the question

DaneMcCloud
01-03-2018, 01:26 PM
This.

EXACTLY this...

Yeah, the 9-0 start in 2013, the 44 points on the road in Indy, going 6-3 in 2014 before a rash of injuries, 11 straight including a playoff win in 2015 and a 12-4 record last year to go along with a 5-0 start this year.

Those are all "Bad Andy".

ModSocks
01-03-2018, 01:29 PM
You guys need to slow your roll on Mike Kafka. He's been a quality control coach for one year, he's not even the assistant QB coach.

I'd imagine if Nagy leaves Corey Matthaei becomes QB coach, Kafka maybe becomes asst. QB coach, and Childress becomes OC again.

Kafka is just an example. The point is Reid can sometimes take these relatively obscure coaches and develop them into eventual HC quality candidates.

The Franchise
01-03-2018, 01:29 PM
I'd be interested to see Andy Reid calling the plays with Mahomes at QB.

ModSocks
01-03-2018, 01:31 PM
You asked why the love for the offensive coordinators and I gave it to you. You disagree.

You didn't answer the question.

If the offense was humming under Reid's play calling early, and Hunt was getting carries, and Smith throwing bombs, then that would suggest that the losing streak/offensive lapse wasn't necessarily tied to Reid's playcalling.

People assume Reid gave up play calling duties because he's a bad play caller. That's not necessarily true.

Truth is, the latest winning streak mirrors the early winning streak, regardless of who was calling the plays.

Why is that?

chiefzilla1501
01-03-2018, 01:42 PM
Based on?...



No, Reid is more likely to go back to his old ways once a proven guy is out of the fold.

Hurts us, and hurts Naggy...

I'm not crazy about it. Again, I like nagy and don't want him to leave. But Reid is still one of the better offensive minds in the NFL even if his playcalling frustrates me at times. It's not a bad fallback. I agree with everyone else that it would suck if Childress is anointed as a replacement.

Jamie
01-03-2018, 01:48 PM
Kafka is just an example. The point is Reid can sometimes take these relatively obscure coaches and develop them into eventual HC quality candidates.

That's true, but right now we don't have a guy that's ready. It'll be Childress, or possibly someone from outside the organization. But probably Childress.

JakeF
01-03-2018, 01:51 PM
You didn't answer the question.

If the offense was humming under Reid's play calling early, and Hunt was getting carries, and Smith throwing bombs, then that would suggest that the losing streak/offensive lapse wasn't necessarily tied to Reid's playcalling.

People assume Reid gave up play calling duties because he's a bad play caller. That's not necessarily true.

Truth is, the latest winning streak mirrors the early winning streak, regardless of who was calling the plays.

Why is that?You asked why people like the coordinators, i told you.

Now you want to argue the merits of what people are feeling.

Two different things.

If you want to argue with everyone that feels that way then start a poll and have at it. Don't try to make me the spokesmen for everyone else.

Rausch
01-03-2018, 01:57 PM
I'm not crazy about it. Again, I like nagy and don't want him to leave. But Reid is still one of the better offensive minds in the NFL even if his playcalling frustrates me at times. It's not a bad fallback.

I think it's clear he's (Reid) is not.

He's ok now with just leading the team. He's a great HC and excellent motivator.

I agree with everyone else that it would suck if Childress is anointed as a replacement.

We should distance ourselves from him as quickly as possible.

Chiefnj2
01-03-2018, 02:19 PM
You didn't answer the question.

If the offense was humming under Reid's play calling early, and Hunt was getting carries, and Smith throwing bombs, then that would suggest that the losing streak/offensive lapse wasn't necessarily tied to Reid's playcalling.

People assume Reid gave up play calling duties because he's a bad play caller. That's not necessarily true.

Truth is, the latest winning streak mirrors the early winning streak, regardless of who was calling the plays.

Why is that?

Because Andy got cute too often? Went away from what was working, which is something he has done in the past.

Andy can come out and call some great games, and then completely f up the next week. Look at the playcalling and time management in the second half of the Colts playoff loss. Look at the lack of urgency in the 4th quarter against the Pats in the playoffs. Despite his overall abilities Andy has, and still can, colossally screw things up. Ask any Eagles fan.

Easy 6
01-03-2018, 04:17 PM
I'd be interested to see Andy Reid calling the plays with Mahomes at QB.

THIS

Hell, Andys pass first tendencies will probably become a charm instead of a point of contention

Spott
01-03-2018, 04:21 PM
I'd be interested to see Andy Reid calling the plays with Mahomes at QB.

He'd still have Kelce passing to Cam Erving on 3rd and 1.

beach tribe
01-03-2018, 06:31 PM
Not even the hoodie and co. could get Cleveland turned around...

Dorsey will have them competing for the AFCN by 2020.

Quesadilla Joe
01-06-2018, 10:46 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OC Matt Nagy, in the spotlight calling plays today vs. the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a>, interviews with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> on Sunday, source says.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/949672766059540480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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rabblerouser
01-06-2018, 10:58 AM
Not even the hoodie and co. could get Cleveland turned around...

Actually, I remember them being touted as "possible playoff contenders" after going like 11-5?

It was when they announced that the franchise was moving to Baltimore that the bottom fell out...

rabblerouser
01-06-2018, 10:58 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OC Matt Nagy, in the spotlight calling plays today vs. the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a>, interviews with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> on Sunday, source says.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/949672766059540480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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What.

The.

FUCK.

rabblerouser
01-06-2018, 11:02 AM
He'd still have Kelce passing to Cam Erving on 3rd and 1.

ROFL

Yup. Because he's an "offensive genius".

RippedmyFlesh
01-06-2018, 11:15 AM
NFL needs to tell head coach-needy teams to fuck off and die. Put in a rule that says you can't even ask permission until after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention.



I hate this shit too. In all sports college hoops goes through this during the final 4. And college fb teams during the bowls and fucks them up sometimes.

ptlyon
01-07-2018, 12:04 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OC Matt Nagy, in the spotlight calling plays today vs. the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a>, interviews with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> on Sunday, source says.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/949672766059540480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hope he got a Zenos right after landing in Chicago and takes one of these positions today to say FU to Andy taking over the play calling last night.

Fuck.

Easy 6
01-07-2018, 12:08 PM
Hope he got a Zenos right after landing in Chicago and takes one of these positions today to say FU to Andy taking over the play calling last night.

****.

Do we know for sure Reid took over playcalling?

It sure as hell looked like it, but I doubt we ever know for sure

TribalElder
01-07-2018, 12:11 PM
0 points in the second half at home in a playoff game loss

If Reid wasn’t calling the plays that netted 0 points in the second half then why care if Nagy leaves?

I guess I missed something

ptlyon
01-07-2018, 12:13 PM
Do we know for sure Reid took over playcalling?

It sure as hell looked like it, but I doubt we ever know for sure

Sure as fuck did to me too.

I've learned over my lifetime that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a fucking duck.

Fuck!

ptlyon
01-07-2018, 12:18 PM
0 points in the second half at home in a playoff game loss

If Reid wasn’t calling the plays that netted 0 points in the second half then why care if Nagy leaves?

I guess I missed something

No fucking way Nagy was calling the plays the second half. No fucking way. Resembled too much like Reid.

My guess? Take away the play calling after it was announced that Nagy was doing interviews prior to years end. Not dedicated to the team, don't coach the team.

Reid has security issues. He needs to go cuz he'll never change.

NWTF
01-07-2018, 12:22 PM
I think Reid called the whole game.

KCUnited
01-07-2018, 12:24 PM
It will always be Reid's show. He has the keys. I'm sure Nagy is thirsty to leave.

DRM08
01-07-2018, 12:26 PM
It will always be Reid's show. He has the keys. I'm sure Nagy is thirsty to leave.

Bet he wishes he could take Pat with him though. I still believe Trubisky will be a bust.

KCUnited
01-07-2018, 12:31 PM
Bet he wishes he could take Pat with him though. I still believe Trubisky will be a bust.

I like Trubisky and think he'll be a good QB in the league, but he'll never live up to a GM outbidding himself in a draft day trade. It's more likely that coaches want to be the guy in control and not be given some pretend playcalling role unless Nagy is content with being Reid's fuckboi.

Bowser
01-07-2018, 12:32 PM
How about we just trade Andy to Chicago for their first rounder?



*just kidding, but only sorta

Pasta Little Brioni
01-07-2018, 12:41 PM
Chicago will regret not taking Mahones

KChiefs1
01-07-2018, 12:59 PM
It will always be Reid's show. He has the keys. I'm sure Nagy is thirsty to leave.



For his sake I hope he gets the job.

RunKC
01-07-2018, 10:35 PM
<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/22avmp"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/22avmp.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/coach-searches-come-into-focus-as-teams-wait-on-patriots-panthers-more-notes/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Wow according to this the playoff game was a huge setback for Nagy amongst league circles.

DRM08
01-07-2018, 10:39 PM
<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/22avmp"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/22avmp.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/coach-searches-come-into-focus-as-teams-wait-on-patriots-panthers-more-notes/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Wow according to this the playoff game was a huge setback for Nagy amongst league circles.

If this is the thought process, then one wonders why Reid and the entire coaching staff is not fired. Sounds like a lot of executives around the league would go the termination route in this situation.

On the bright side...if Nagy is stuck in KC for awhile, maybe he can continue helping Mahomes develop. The two of them seem to get along great with each other.

Chiefshrink
01-07-2018, 10:41 PM
<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/22avmp"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/22avmp.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/coach-searches-come-into-focus-as-teams-wait-on-patriots-panthers-more-notes/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Wow according to this the playoff game was a huge setback for Nagy amongst league circles.

And we really don't know if Reid took over or not in the 2nd half. And IF he did then if I am Reid and I don't want my underling to get screwed on job interviews with this false impression then I quietly call all of Nagy's interviewers and give them the scoop PERIOD.

CaliforniaChief
01-07-2018, 10:42 PM
I'm not sure if I'm happy to see that or not. If Nagy was calling that 2nd half...then he needs to go too. I just feel like we need to clean house.

gold_and_red
01-07-2018, 10:43 PM
If this is the thought process, then one wonders why Reid and the entire coaching staff is not fired. Sounds like a lot of executives around the league would go the termination route in this situation.

On the bright side...if Nagy is stuck in KC for awhile, maybe he can continue helping Mahomes develop. The two of them seem to get along great with each other.

Exactly! Twice in 5 years. Maybe Reid is not as revered as the media and fans want to believe. But we don't have a GM overseeing Reid!

Sassy Squatch
01-07-2018, 10:44 PM
<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/22avmp"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/22avmp.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/coach-searches-come-into-focus-as-teams-wait-on-patriots-panthers-more-notes/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Wow according to this the playoff game was a huge setback for Nagy amongst league circles.
How could it not be? How, as an NFL front office, could you spin to your fans hiring the guy that was the coordinator of the offense who embarrassed themselves in the opening game of the playoffs? It won't mean shit what Reid says privately.

DRM08
01-07-2018, 10:46 PM
How could it not be? How, as an NFL front office, could you spin to your fans hiring the guy that was the coordinator of the offense who embarrassed themselves in the opening game of the playoffs? It won't mean shit what Reid says privately.

Especially when the Bears offense has been so shitty for many years.

gold_and_red
01-07-2018, 11:04 PM
But let us also remember that Pederson made it as a HC while coordinating a less productive offense, so maybe it is a good ol' boys network.

Titty Meat
01-07-2018, 11:07 PM
But let us also remember that Pederson made it as a HC while coordinating a less productive offense, so maybe it is a good ol' boys network.

Did he? They scored 30 on the Texans and moved the ball with ease on New England

Quesadilla Joe
01-08-2018, 06:56 AM
Peter King...

GOATS OF THE WEEK

Matt Nagy, offensive coordinator, and Andy Reid, head coach, Kansas City. A truly ridiculous loss by the Chiefs, highlighted by a strange abandonment of the running game. They share the goat horns here, because they share the play-calling. Reid said wryly afterward: “He called the good ones, I called the bad ones.” The biggest fault I find is this: You’ve got the NFL rushing champion, Kareem Hunt, fully healthy, and he gives you the early lead with a one-yard bull-rush touchdown, and in the last 48 minutes of the games, you hand him the ball five times. Five rushes in the last 48 minutes. “It’s criminal,” Terrell Davis said on NFL Network, speaking of Hunt’s 11 carries for the game. “Criminal … They got out-coached in the second half.”http://amp.si.com/nfl/2018/01/08/nfl-playoffs-wild-card-divisional-round-preview-drew-brees-mmqb-peter-king

Sassy Squatch
01-08-2018, 07:07 AM
Peter King...

http://amp.si.com/nfl/2018/01/08/nfl-playoffs-wild-card-divisional-round-preview-drew-brees-mmqb-peter-king
Where the fuck is Bob Sutton on that list?