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NIUhuskies
01-16-2018, 11:28 AM
Rumors out of Pittsburgh are that some of their board members will be lobbying for a coaching change

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/source-some-steelers-limited-partners-want-a-coaching-change/

Would you be open to Tomlin as our DC if that happens?

Detoxing
01-16-2018, 11:29 AM
Rumors out of Pittsburgh are that some of their board members will be lobbying for a coaching change

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/source-some-steelers-limited-partners-want-a-coaching-change/

Would you be open to Tomlin as our DC if that happens?

DC? Of course, lol.

But there isn't a chance in hell he's taking a DC job.

loochy
01-16-2018, 11:29 AM
He wouldn't take a demotion. He would not have a hard time finding another HC gig.

Reerun_KC
01-16-2018, 11:30 AM
He wonít be out of a job for long.

old_geezer
01-16-2018, 11:31 AM
As a DC? no. As a head coach? Hell yes.

jd1020
01-16-2018, 11:31 AM
Tomlin has been to 2 Superbowls since being the coach of the Steelers, winning 1, and you think hes going to take a demotion if he is fired by the Steelers?

I think I speak for everyone when I say ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

KC Tattoo
01-16-2018, 11:31 AM
And yet Chiefs give Andy Reid extension and keep Sutton....

NIUhuskies
01-16-2018, 11:31 AM
Most of the teams with HC opening are going with offensive guys to groom their young QBs. I agree, it’d be hard to see him take a demotion but I also wouldn’t be shocked to see him wait for the right opportunity and be a DC for a few years at the right place

Superturtle
01-16-2018, 11:32 AM
Terry Bradshaw was right about this guy being a cheerleader. Do not want. We've already got a HC that won't use common sense when it comes to basic football.

Stinger
01-16-2018, 11:32 AM
Rumors out of Pittsburgh are that some of their board members will be lobbying for a coaching change

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/source-some-steelers-limited-partners-want-a-coaching-change/

Would you be open to Tomlin as our DC if that happens?

Now way that happens. Three coaches since 1969 and current coach has 48 wins including playoffs in 4 years. Not exactly the Steeler's M.O. :rolleyes:

jd1020
01-16-2018, 11:32 AM
Most of the teams with HC opening are going with offensive guys to groom their young QBs. I agree, itíd be hard to see him take a demotion but I also wouldnít be shocked to see him wait for the right opportunity and be a DC for a few years at the right place

Ya, like replacing Gruden in the booth.

carcosa
01-16-2018, 11:33 AM
Fire Reid's big ol' butt and bring Tomlin in for a look.

NIUhuskies
01-16-2018, 11:34 AM
Ya, like replacing Gruden in the booth.

Yeah good point, thatís probably more realistic

Titty Meat
01-16-2018, 11:35 AM
Tomlin for DC Revis for Secondary coach!!1!

Why Not?
01-16-2018, 11:35 AM
If Tomlin is fired, which I wouldn't fault the Steelers for as he can't beat the Patriots(or even get to them in this year's scenario)and his teams are never buttoned up with their talking and social media nonsense, he probably becomes the next Gruden. He's great with the media. He can go do TV for a few years and either wait for BB to retire or take an NFC job down the road. I see no scenario where he becomes a DC

DaneMcCloud
01-16-2018, 11:35 AM
Tomlin's not an X's and O's guy, he' more of a CEO type.

I don't think he's a fit for a coordinator position.

Plus, teams like the Titans and Cardinals would line up to hire him.

The Colts, too.

Why Not?
01-16-2018, 11:36 AM
Ya, like replacing Gruden in the booth.

Yep

Superturtle
01-16-2018, 11:38 AM
His downfall is continually letting the egos of his players override what is best for the team.

gblowfish
01-16-2018, 11:39 AM
Oh Noes!

http://i68.tinypic.com/29en41t.jpg

NIUhuskies
01-16-2018, 11:39 AM
Tomlin's not an X's and O's guy, he' more of a CEO type.

I don't think he's a fit for a coordinator position.

Plus, teams like the Titans and Cardinals would line up to hire him.

The Colts, too.

Titans and Colts both want McDaniels for their young QB. Palmer just retired as well so I bet the Cardinals go with an offensive guy to groom the QB they draft as well

Eleazar
01-16-2018, 11:40 AM
And yet Chiefs give Andy Reid extension and keep Sutton....

It starts at the top.

CHunt is content with what Reid offers. Not every team is so complacent.

TLO
01-16-2018, 11:40 AM
Oh Noes!

http://i68.tinypic.com/29en41t.jpg

Racism. Reported

Nzoner
01-16-2018, 11:40 AM
Terry Bradshaw was right about this guy being a cheerleader. Do not want. We've already got a HC that won't use common sense when it comes to basic football.

Yep,when you have a superstar tweeting about the rematch with the Pats before you've even played the Jags you have a serious control issue.

gblowfish
01-16-2018, 11:42 AM
Racism. Reported

Lighten up, Francis.

Easy 6
01-16-2018, 11:42 AM
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Nzoner
01-16-2018, 11:43 AM
If Tomlin is fired, which I wouldn't fault the Steelers for as he can't beat the Patriots(or even get to them in this year's scenario)and his teams are never buttoned up with their talking and social media nonsense, he probably becomes the next Gruden. He's great with the media. He can go do TV for a few years and either wait for BB to retire or take an NFC job down the road. I see no scenario where he becomes a DC


I don't see Bob Kraft even entertaining the possibility of that.

DaneMcCloud
01-16-2018, 11:43 AM
Titans and Colts both want McDaniels for their young QB. Palmer just retired as well so I bet the Cardinals go with an offensive guy to groom the QB they draft as well

A QB coach is hired to "groom" or coach up a young QB, not a Head Coach.

Any and all of those teams would be absolutely foolish to pass on a 2 time Super Bowl winner in favor of Josh fucking McDaniels.

Why Not?
01-16-2018, 11:50 AM
I don't see Bob Kraft even entertaining the possibility of that.

No, I mean wait for BB to retire before he takes over an AFC team. I'm kinda kidding. I'm sure he would take an AFC job, but he's not beating the Pats until BB is gone

raybec 4
01-16-2018, 11:53 AM
Tomlin is not getting fired this year. If he did, he'd have new HC job in about an hour.

Nzoner
01-16-2018, 11:58 AM
No, I mean wait for BB to retire before he takes over an AFC team. I'm kinda kidding. I'm sure he would take an AFC job, but he's not beating the Pats until BB is gone

Got it.

RunKC
01-16-2018, 12:00 PM
A QB coach is hired to "groom" or coach up a young QB, not a Head Coach.

Any and all of those teams would be absolutely foolish to pass on a 2 time Super Bowl winner in favor of Josh ****ing McDaniels.

Idk Dane. McDaniels has been said to really understand the Xís and Oís instead of just being a motivator like Tomlin. Tomlin inhereited a HOF QB, a very good scouting team giving him great talents and a culture of defense.

I feel like Andy has taught me that I would take the Xís and Oís coach compared to a motivator like Haley who gets outcoached.

Chiefs4TheWin
01-16-2018, 12:03 PM
Tomlin is awful.

LOCOChief
01-16-2018, 12:04 PM
Rumors out of Pittsburgh are that some of their board members will be lobbying for a coaching change

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/source-some-steelers-limited-partners-want-a-coaching-change/

Would you be open to Tomlin as our DC if that happens?

fuck no, scum bag

DaneMcCloud
01-16-2018, 12:05 PM
Idk Dane. McDaniels has been said to really understand the X’s and O’s instead of just being a motivator like Tomlin. Tomlin inhereited a HOF QB, a very good scouting team giving him great talents and a culture of defense.

I feel like Andy has taught me that I would take the X’s and O’s coach compared to a motivator like Haley who gets outcoached.

I get that but from an ownership perspective, who's resume is more impressive? If you were a Titans or Colts fan, would you be amped up if they hired Josh McDaniels, a failed head coach or a 2 time Super Bowl winning coach?

Mariotta needs to be coached up but the talent is definitely there.

Any head coaching candidate should be weary of taking the Colts job. The owner is a mess, the roster is a mess, the QB may or may not be healthy, etc. The owner also consistently got in the middle of Pagano and Ryan Grigson (who was a terrible hire from the onset) but I'd be concerned that history would repeat itself.

dirk digler
01-16-2018, 12:05 PM
He should be fired if what Big Ben said today is true that he is not allowed to call his own plays or audible. I mean wtf..

bigjosh
01-16-2018, 12:09 PM
Tomlin is awful.

https://www.askideas.com/media/37/Funny-Laughing-Gif-Picture.gif

NIUhuskies
01-16-2018, 12:16 PM
If I calculated correctly, Tomlin is 8-7 when Ben isn’t starting. That’s with starting QBs Charlie Batch, Michael Vick, Dennis Dixon, and Landry Jones

-Shane Hallam

dj56dt58
01-16-2018, 12:16 PM
This is why the Steelers win championships, they don't settle. They have expectations and good just isn't good enough. Wish we had that in KC

rabblerouser
01-16-2018, 12:21 PM
And yet Chiefs give Andy Reid extension and keep Sutton....

Because?

rabblerouser
01-16-2018, 12:25 PM
Racism. Reported

Never gets old.

Eleazar
01-16-2018, 12:25 PM
Tomlin is awful.

Mike Tomlin - 11 seasons, 116-60 (.659), 8-7 postseason record, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl

Andy Reid - 19 seasons, 183-120 (.604), 11-13 postseason record, 1 NFC Championship, 0 Super Bowls

Dayze
01-16-2018, 12:26 PM
This is why the Steelers win championships, they don't settle. They have expectations and good just isn't good enough. Wish we had that in KC

http://www.chiefs.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/01418ChrisJones.jpg

O.city
01-16-2018, 12:27 PM
Mike Tomlin - 11 seasons, 176-116 (.659), 8-7 postseason record, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl

Andy Reid - 19 seasons, 183-120 (.604), 11-13 postseason record, 1 NFC Championship, 0 Super Bowls

So in 8 seasons, Reid has only coached 11 more games?

Eleazar
01-16-2018, 12:29 PM
So in 8 seasons, Reid has only coached 11 more games?

Corrected

lcarus
01-16-2018, 12:36 PM
http://www.chiefs.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/01418ChrisJones.jpg

I love how they have their horrid "playoff slogan" with 18 different sponsors just for them to get bounced on wild card weekend by this years 8-8/9-7 playoff scrubs. This team has become a recurring SNL skit with a different guest host starring each year. This year's host....Fraaaaaank Zooooomboooooo! Musical guest....Chumbawamba!

ChiefsCountry
01-16-2018, 12:44 PM
Mike Tomlin - 11 seasons, 116-60 (.659), 8-7 postseason record, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl

Andy Reid - 19 seasons, 183-120 (.604), 11-13 postseason record, 1 NFC Championship, 0 Super Bowls

Big Ben > McNabb

Quit being a fucking idiot about Andy Reid.

crayzkirk
01-16-2018, 12:53 PM
Behind every great QB is a coach just waiting to be given credit...

Chiefs4TheWin
01-16-2018, 01:01 PM
Mike Tomlin - 11 seasons, 116-60 (.659), 8-7 postseason record, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl

Andy Reid - 19 seasons, 183-120 (.604), 11-13 postseason record, 1 NFC Championship, 0 Super Bowls

Not saying Andy Reid is better. Tomlin just isn't very good. He won championships with Cowhers players and hasn't been back since. His players run the asylum. he's a defensive coach with a shit defense. Makes terrible game calls, and gets bailed out by otherworldly talent. You guys are suffering from grass is greener syndrome.

Eleazar
01-16-2018, 01:15 PM
Big Ben > McNabb

Quit being a ****ing idiot about Andy Reid.

Ok, McNabb wasn't good enough? Have it your way then.

19 seasons, 0 super bowl good-enough quarterbacks developed.

MahiMike
01-16-2018, 01:47 PM
Bring him in for a look. He'd be the best looking cheerleader on the team.

Hydrae
01-16-2018, 01:55 PM
Tomlin is not getting fired this year. If he did, he'd have new HC job in about an hour.

Makes me wonder if the team that hired him that quickly would need to interview anyone else to fulfill the Rooney rule. :)

JakeF
01-16-2018, 01:56 PM
Haley working behind the scenes to sabotage his boss again.

TimBone
01-16-2018, 01:56 PM
Not saying Andy Reid is better. Tomlin just isn't very good. He won championships with Cowhers players and hasn't been back since. His players run the asylum. he's a defensive coach with a shit defense. Makes terrible game calls, and gets bailed out by otherworldly talent. You guys are suffering from grass is greener syndrome.All true.

TLO
01-16-2018, 01:58 PM
https://www.askideas.com/media/37/Funny-Laughing-Gif-Picture.gif

This is scary

BigCatDaddy
01-16-2018, 01:59 PM
His coaching in the Jags game made Andy look like a genius

DaneMcCloud
01-16-2018, 02:07 PM
Haley working behind the scenes to sabotage his boss again.

Bullshit.

The co-owners of the Steelers couldnít give a shit about Todd Haley, who is most likely gone, regardless of Tomlinís status.

Chiefshrink
01-16-2018, 02:11 PM
Big Ben > McNabb

Quit being a ****ing idiot about Andy Reid.

You could argue the longer AR coaches the more DMcNb deserves to be in HOF:D

JakeF
01-16-2018, 02:18 PM
You could argue the longer AR coaches the more DMcNb deserves to be in HOF:D
How many people are hoping that Mahomes ignores Andy and runs his own plays in the 4th quarter? LMAO

lcarus
01-16-2018, 02:21 PM
How many people are hoping that Mahomes ignores Andy and runs his own plays in the 4th quarter? LMAO

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/4/4b/Me_i_am_legally_blonde_witherspoon_gif.gif/revision/latest?cb=20141201165653

Hoover
01-16-2018, 02:23 PM
Its shocking to me how long Haley has survived in Pittsburgh. Big Ben hates his ass. And if I was the HC, I'd say fine Ben, lets put our heads together and get a new OC.

bsroyals54
01-16-2018, 02:31 PM
Fire Reid's big ol' butt and bring Tomlin in for a look.

don't need that race-baiting POS on this team, already have one dumbass in Marcus Peters.

carcosa
01-16-2018, 02:31 PM
don't need that race-baiting POS on this team, already have one dumbass in Marcus Peters.

Actually, it sounds like you're the dumbass here

bsroyals54
01-16-2018, 02:37 PM
Actually, it sounds like you're the dumbass here

noyou

carcosa
01-16-2018, 02:41 PM
noyou

shit

MahiMike
01-16-2018, 02:48 PM
Haley was surely responsible for the pitch out on 4th and inches.

Chiefshrink
01-16-2018, 05:19 PM
Ben's offense has never been the same since Haley's arrival that is for sure.

BigCatDaddy
01-16-2018, 05:25 PM
Ben's offense has never been the same since Haley's arrival that is for sure.

You mean like in 2014 when he was just shy of 5000 yards?

St. Patty's Fire
01-16-2018, 05:44 PM
Tomlin as a DC? You crazy? Dude would get head coaching offers literally the second Pittsburgh let him go.

Titty Meat
01-16-2018, 05:44 PM
There's nobody not named Harbaugh that's a better coach on the market than Tomlin. It would be stupid to fire him just like it would be stupid to fire Reid.

Coochie liquor
01-16-2018, 06:50 PM
https://www.askideas.com/media/37/Funny-Laughing-Gif-Picture.gif

Nightmare material... thanks!!

seclark
01-16-2018, 07:32 PM
don't want nuthin from the steelers on this team.
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Deberg_1990
01-16-2018, 07:34 PM
There's nobody not named Harbaugh that's a better coach on the market than Tomlin. It would be stupid to fire him just like it would be stupid to fire Reid.

This. It’s not going to happen because there’s no one currently available to replace him who’s better

ILChief
01-16-2018, 07:37 PM
don't want nuthin from the steelers on this team.
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I'd take AB

Chief Roundup
01-16-2018, 07:41 PM
Not saying Andy Reid is better. Tomlin just isn't very good. He won championships with Cowhers players and hasn't been back since. His players run the asylum. he's a defensive coach with a shit defense. Makes terrible game calls, and gets bailed out by otherworldly talent. You guys are suffering from grass is greener syndrome.

Wrong. He went back to the SB in 2010 and lost to Aaron Rodgers. He also lost to the eventual SB winners in 2015 in the Donkos. He lost in 2016 to the eventual SB winners in the Patriots.
He must be a horrible coach to have ONLY gone to the playoffs 7 of his 10 years there while winning a SB and competing in a second one. Oh and I am sure that Cowher is the one that put all of those people on that roster and they are all still there 10 years later. :rolleyes:

I don't like Tomlin either but at least be real about his accomplishments and ability.

Chiefs4TheWin
01-16-2018, 07:54 PM
Wrong. He went back to the SB in 2010 and lost to Aaron Rodgers. He also lost to the eventual SB winners in 2015 in the Donkos. He lost in 2016 to the eventual SB winners in the Patriots.
He must be a horrible coach to have ONLY gone to the playoffs 7 of his 10 years there while winning a SB and competing in a second one. Oh and I am sure that Cowher is the one that put all of those people on that roster and they are all still there 10 years later. :rolleyes:

I don't like Tomlin either but at least be real about his accomplishments and ability.

You're giving too much credit to Tomlin for good players making great plays.

I won't pick through point by point as I don't feel like typing that dang much, but I will say I think you're giving Tomlin credit for things may have witnessed, but certainly did not accomplish. You think he actively accomplishes things, while I think he just sits there and is lucky enough for them to happen by insane plays and pure player skill.

JD10367
01-17-2018, 01:06 AM
On the NFL Network, one of the analysts said Tomlin “is the Alex Smith of head coaches”. His cohort said, “Actually, he’s the Andy Reid of head coaches.”

Karlos
01-17-2018, 01:58 AM
Not saying Andy Reid is better. Tomlin just isn't very good. He won championships with Cowhers players and hasn't been back since. His players run the asylum. he's a defensive coach with a shit defense. Makes terrible game calls, and gets bailed out by otherworldly talent. You guys are suffering from grass is greener syndrome.

Cowher is probably the most overrated coach in history.

Karlos
01-17-2018, 02:07 AM
Its shocking to me how long Haley has survived in Pittsburgh. Big Ben hates his ass. And if I was the HC, I'd say fine Ben, lets put our heads together and get a new OC.

Haley turned Ben into an elite QB. Roethlisberger was basically Alex Smith before Haley.

16 game averages in 8 seasons before Haley:

Yards: 3730
Comp %: 63.1%
TD/INT: 23/14
QB Rating: 92.1


16 game averages in 6 seasons with Haley:

Yards: 4556
Comp %: 65.2%
TD/INT:31/14
QB Rating: 96.0

Its pretty easy to see why Haley is still around when you look at how he turned Ben into an elite QB.

Titty Meat
01-17-2018, 02:10 AM
Haley turned Ben into an elite QB. Roethlisberger was basically Alex Smith before Haley.

16 game averages in 8 seasons before Haley:

Yards: 3730
Comp %: 63.1%
TD/INT: 23/14
QB Rating: 92.1


16 game averages in 6 seasons with Haley:

Yards: 4556
Comp %: 65.2%
TD/INT:31/14
QB Rating: 96.0

Its pretty easy to see why Haley is still around when you look at how he turned Ben into an elite QB.


LMAO

Karlos
01-17-2018, 02:21 AM
LMAO

I'm not the biggest Haley fan around either after the bullshit job he did here, but his results as OC speak for themselves.

MahiMike
01-17-2018, 08:11 AM
Haley turned Ben into an elite QB. Roethlisberger was basically Alex Smith before Haley.

16 game averages in 8 seasons before Haley:

Yards: 3730
Comp %: 63.1%
TD/INT: 23/14
QB Rating: 92.1


16 game averages in 6 seasons with Haley:

Yards: 4556
Comp %: 65.2%
TD/INT:31/14
QB Rating: 96.0

Its pretty easy to see why Haley is still around when you look at how he turned Ben into an elite QB.

And this is why they'll be watching from home this weekend.

Real football > Fantasy football

Dayze
01-17-2018, 08:38 AM
And this is why they'll be watching from home this weekend.

Real football > Fantasy football


:thumb:

Reerun_KC
01-17-2018, 08:48 AM
Cowher is probably the most overrated coach in history.



Without a doubt. Talk about a fraud.

Reerun_KC
01-17-2018, 08:49 AM
And this is why they'll be watching from home this weekend.



Real football > Fantasy football



And Big Ben still canít win the Coveted QB trophy.

Eleazar
01-17-2018, 09:11 AM
And this is why they'll be watching from home this weekend.

Real football > Fantasy football

The madden generation / fantasy football generation has a hard time understanding why some quarterbacks with middling stats win tons of games, and why some with great stats are watching the playoffs from recliners.

It's because many of the most important things they do don't show up on a stat sheet.

Reerun_KC
01-17-2018, 09:15 AM
The madden generation / fantasy football generation has a hard time understanding why some quarterbacks with middling stats win tons of games, and why some with great stats are watching the playoffs from recliners.

It's because many of the most important things they do don't show up on a stat sheet.



Like protecting leads by scoring in the second half?

MahiMike
01-17-2018, 01:29 PM
Bring him in for a look. He'd be the best looking cheerleader on the team.

Come on! This is comedy gold right there!