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kccrow
01-29-2018, 01:41 PM
01| Cleveland Browns | Sam Darnold, QB, USC
It's no secret that Cleveland is an 0-16 team because they lack any semblance of a quarterback. John Dorsey's priority one is getting a QB to lead this franchise. Darnold is the most complete QB in the class with a high upside.
02| New York Giants | Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
When Eli Manning was benched this season (even if that situation was botched), it became clear in New York that they want to find his successor sooner than later. Rosen is a complete QB, and perhaps the best pure pocket passer in the class, but he has some maturing to do and who better to do it behind than Eli.
03| Indianapolis Colts | Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
The Colts' defense is atrocious, especially their pass rush. Chubb is the best all-around defensive player in this draft and will certainly help stabilize the edge.
04| Cleveland Browns (f/HOU) | Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
The Browns will likely be relying on a rookie QB in 2018, so they need to give him some help with a strong running game. The offensive line in Cleveland is already really solid, so a supreme playmaker like Barkley could flourish.
05| Denver Broncos | Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
The Broncos are a playoff team with a competent QB and Elway is clearly continuing his search for that guy. Mayfield may have some character flaws, but he's a good QB with competitive fire that is sure to get Elway excited.
06| New York Jets | Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
The Jets' QB situation resembles that of the Browns and they also must get better here. Allen has many of the same flaws that Christian Hackenberg had when the Jets selected him, so I don't necessarily believe them to be a deterrent here. Allen appears to have much higher upside than Hack, and has shown flashes of brilliance.
07| Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Joshua Jackson, CB, Iowa
It seems every year the Bucs need a pass rusher. It's at the point where this team needs to fill holes elsewhere and hope to address that later. With Brent Grimes a free agent, this team really has to address the CB spot as Hargreaves probably isn't a #1. Jackson is a complete corner with size, speed, quickness, and ball skills.
08| Chicago Bears | Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
Da Bears have to get some weapons for Mitch Trubisky this year and Sutton is a big, prolific receiver that should hold up well in NFC North.
09| San Francisco 49ers | Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
The 49ers are also lacking enough weapons in the passing game, so getting a stud opposite Garcon should be a high priority. Ridley is that quick twitch type that Garoppolo is used to throwing to in New England.
10| Oakland Raiders | Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
Despite their defensive needs, the Raiders' chances of competing start and end with Derek Carr so they have to keep as much pressure off of their star QB as possible. Donald Penn is old as dirt and there is nothing at RT. McGlinchey can get his feet wet on the right side until Penn hangs it up, then slide over.
11| Miami Dolphins | Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
The Dolphins are atrocious at guard and they really have to keep Tannehill upright to stand a chance. Nelson is an absolute monster at guard and would quickly help the pass and run game in Miami.
12| Cincinnati Bengals | Connor Williams, OT, Texas
The Bengals actually had their star guard, Clint Boling, playing left tackle this year. They have to get a left tackle and improve that offensive front if they want to be competitive.
13| Washington Redskins | Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
Washington needs a ton of help fortifying their run defense, so they really could got nose tackle or linebacker here. It's tough to find linebackers with the ability and range that Smith has, so I see Washington going D-line later.
14| Green Bay Packers | Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida
The Packers are another team that seemingly always need help on the edge, but they also need to shore up that secondary. Davon House is a free agent and their only other competent corner, Demarious Randall, is in the final year of his rookie deal unless the Packers decide to pick up his 5th year option (which isn't crystal clear given his attitude in 2017).
15| Arizona Cardinals | Martinas Rankin, OT, Mississippi State
The Cardinals' offensive line is full of holes so they'll have to hit free agency and the draft hard to fix it. Rankin is a quality left tackle prospect in a very shallow class, so it would be wise for them to jump early.
16| Baltimore Ravens | Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
The Ravens need to do alot to fix their hodgepodge receiving corps, so they best start early. Kirk is an electrifying playmaker that could spark this offense.
17| Los Angeles Chargers | Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
The Chargers run defense was pretty poor, so getting a quality nose to sandwich between their stellar pass rushers should be a high priority. Payne is a guy that can stuff the run and rush the passer equally well.
18| Seattle Seahawks | Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio
Seattle is likely looking to retool their defense and it'll probably start with replacing Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril. Davenport has good athleticism and a long frame, plus he showed at the Senior Bowl that he can play with the big boys.
19| Dallas Cowboys | Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
Dallas had problems over the top this year, so they really need to get a high safety that can help them out there. Fitzpatrick is a dynamic player with some CB qualities, but his best fit in the pros should be at free safety.
20| Detroit Lions | Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
If the Lions lose Tahir Whitehead, their linebacking corps will go from subpar to atrocious. Vander Esch is a rangy, do-everything linebacker that would fit well in Detroit as a WOLB.
21| Buffalo Bills | Vita Vea, DT, Washington
The Bills trade of Marcel Dareus was puzzling and it left a huge void. I look for them to add a run stuffer early for that line. Vea is a special talent that is a load to move and can also get after the QB.
22| Buffalo Bills (f/KC) | Billy Price, OC, Ohio State
The abrupt retirement of Eric Wood due to neck injuries certainly hurts the Bills interior offensive line that was already needing work due to age. Price can step right in and pick up where Wood left off.
23| Los Angeles Rams | Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
With both starting CBs set to hit the market, it is doubtful that the Rams are able to re-sign both. Ward is a solid cover corner with #1 potential.
24| Carolina Panthers | Arden Key, DE, LSU
Charles Johnson has 5 sacks the past 3 seasons combined and is 31, while Julius Peppers is 38. It's time to find a capable edge rusher opposite Mario Addison (who is already 30) to take some pressure off of their subpar secondary (which will also need to be addressed early on).
25| Tennessee Titans | Tim Settle, DT, Virginia Tech
The Titans have a fairly stout defense, but they could make it even better with a truly stout nose tackle on the inside. While the Titans tend to wait until day 2 for defensive lineman, Settle is a special talent at nose with speed to disrupt the backfield.
26| Atlanta Falcons | Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford
The Falcons need help on the interior D-line since Dontari Poe wasn't exactly the "mega-force" he thought he'd be, plus Poe was only on a 1-year deal.
27| New Orleans Saints | Derwin James, S, Florida State
All signs point to Vaccarro being on his way out of New Orleans, so they'll need a new playmaker on the back end and James can provide that spark.
28| Pittsburgh Steelers | Tremaine Edmonds, LB, Virginia Tech
The loss of Ryan Shazier really hurt the Steelers since they already needed to find someone next to him. Edmonds is a big linebacker with range that can line up anywhere in Pittsburgh's 3-4.
29| Jacksonville Jaguars | Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
The Jaguars need to add a pass catching TE to provide a safety valve for whomever their QB might be in 2018.
30| Minnesota Vikings | Taven Bryan, DT, Florida
The loss of Shariff Floyd was a big blow to the Vikings future at DT so I'd look for them to once again look for a DT that can collapse the pocket in a hurry and Bryan is that type.
31| Philadelphia Eagles | James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
Torrey Smith was clearly not the answer opposite Alshon Jefferey and Agholor is best suited in the slot. Washington could be that electric #2 Doug Peterson needs to make his offense click at the highest level.
32| New England Patriots | Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
I'd be surprised if ol' Bill re-signs Malcolm Butler to the mega-contract he's going to command, so I look for him to go out a find a CB that fits his mold early on in the draft.

BryanBusby
01-29-2018, 02:01 PM
I can't see Dorsey taking a RB in the top 5.

pugsnotdrugs19
01-29-2018, 08:22 PM
I can't see Dorsey taking a RB in the top 5.

I think he goes defense at 4.

kccrow
01-29-2018, 08:51 PM
Dorsey's picked high in the draft all of once, so I don't think anyone has a barometer on what he might do. I can say this, Barkley checks every box in terms of what he looked for in a RB during his tenure in KC.

BryanBusby
01-30-2018, 03:27 AM
Dorsey's picked high in the draft all of once, so I don't think anyone has a barometer on what he might do. I can say this, Barkley checks every box in terms of what he looked for in a RB during his tenure in KC.
He is cut from the GB mold. They value RB so much, they have a WR playing it there.

The highest he spent on RB here was a pair of 3rd rounders. I'm not sold he takes one in the top 5, the more I think about it.

I know he likes Mayfield, but ultimately I think he goes Darnold than Chubb or Fitzpatrick at 4.

This draft class reminds me of 2009.

kccrow
01-30-2018, 02:38 PM
He is cut from the GB mold. They value RB so much, they have a WR playing it there.

The highest he spent on RB here was a pair of 3rd rounders. I'm not sold he takes one in the top 5, the more I think about it.

I know he likes Mayfield, but ultimately I think he goes Darnold than Chubb or Fitzpatrick at 4.

This draft class reminds me of 2009.

They value RB more than you think. They've spent alot of draft capital on the position over the past 10 drafts with several of them high selections.

2007 Brandon Jackson 2-63, DeShawn Wynn 7-228
2010 James Starks 6-193
2011 Alex Green 3-96
2013 Eddie Lacy 2-61, John Franklin 4-125
2017 Jamaal Williams 4-134, Aaron Jones 5-182, Devante Mays 7-238

raybec 4
01-30-2018, 02:40 PM
They value RB more than you think. They've spent alot of draft capital on the position over the past 10 drafts with several of them high selections.

2007 Brandon Jackson 2-63, DeShawn Wynn 7-228
2010 James Starks 6-193
2011 Alex Green 3-96
2013 Eddie Lacy 2-61, John Franklin 4-125
2017 Jamaal Williams 4-134, Aaron Jones 5-182, Devante Mays 7-238

They aren't Dorsey

kccrow
01-30-2018, 02:46 PM
They aren't Dorsey

Let me help you with reading comprehension. BB insinuated that Dorsey wouldn't draft a RB at #4 because he is cut from the Packers lineage. I show the Packers history the past 10 drafts. Deduce from there.

Obviously the Green Bay Packers aren't John Dorsey. And better yet, not a single fucking person here knows if Dorsey would or wouldn't take a RB at #4, despite his history in KC.

It wasn't long ago people thought drafting RBs in round 1 was ancient history, but look at how NFL execs have made fools of them all.

BryanBusby
01-30-2018, 05:08 PM
They value RB more than you think. They've spent alot of draft capital on the position over the past 10 drafts with several of them high selections.

2007 Brandon Jackson 2-63, DeShawn Wynn 7-228
2010 James Starks 6-193
2011 Alex Green 3-96
2013 Eddie Lacy 2-61, John Franklin 4-125
2017 Jamaal Williams 4-134, Aaron Jones 5-182, Devante Mays 7-238
The highest they've spent has been a end of 2nd round choice, which basically proves my point. Both of those 2nd rounders didn't really work out either.

There's nothing substantial that tells me Dorsey is going to take a RB in the top 5.

O.city
02-01-2018, 09:48 AM
I wouldn't take a RB that high. Ever.

Don't care if it's barry sanders reincarnate. Never.

Hell the Cowboys took Zeke at what, 4? Good pick, great player. Then took Jaylon Smith in round 2. Good draft right?

They could have had Jalen Ramsey and the big bama RB whose name escapes me.

Never take a RB that high.

Hoover
02-01-2018, 11:27 AM
I wouldn't take a RB that high. Ever.

Don't care if it's barry sanders reincarnate. Never.

Hell the Cowboys took Zeke at what, 4? Good pick, great player. Then took Jaylon Smith in round 2. Good draft right?

They could have had Jalen Ramsey and the big bama RB whose name escapes me.

Never take a RB that high.
Great example. And thus be chasing a stud CB for years because of the decision.

The Franchise
02-01-2018, 11:46 AM
Daniel Jeremiah has said that the Barkley in the top 10 talk has all been because of the media. He hasn't heard any of it from GMs or coaches.

Quesadilla Joe
02-01-2018, 12:11 PM
I thought the exact same thing when I watched him play but didn't want to be laughed at. Saquon plays like a bigger version of Barry Sanders.

From Zierlein...

NFL Comparison Barry Sanders

Bottom Line Every-down running back with the ability to alter the course of an offense and become a face of the franchise-type player. Barkley has the rare ability to create additional yardage through elusiveness, speed, vision and feel for space in the open field. While he has been tasked with carrying a heavy load at Penn State, their decision to limit his carries somewhat this season could help Barkley headed into his rookie season. Barkley is a buffet runner who thrives with the more plates you give him and he has a chance to become an early All-Pro no matter which team takes him. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/saquon-barkley?id=2559901

pugsnotdrugs19
02-01-2018, 12:59 PM
Daniel Jeremiah has said that the Barkley in the top 10 talk has all been because of the media. He hasn't heard any of it from GMs or coaches.

Unless it was like the 2013 draft class, I would probably never draft a RB in the top ten. They're just too easy to find at a serviceable level.

Even if you get a guy like Zeke, Adrian Peterson, Fournette... how long are they going to be able to go as a true stud? Odds are that they will be finished as an elite player by 30 years old...

And of course there's the fact that you have deep RB classes every year. Jamaal Charles, Kareem Hunt, Alvin Kamara... all 3rd rounders, just to name a few.

I'd pass on Barkley until mid first round.

CoMoChief
02-09-2018, 07:20 PM
Now that the Chiefs got their CB, I'd like for the Chiefs to draft Taven Bryan. Front 7 needs a major upgrade.

Appears they'd have to move up to get him, but they may have the ammo to do it.

staylor26
02-09-2018, 07:37 PM
Now that the Chiefs got their CB, I'd like for the Chiefs to draft Taven Bryan. Front 7 needs a major upgrade.

Appears they'd have to move up to get him, but they may have the ammo to do it.

Holy fuck. I love Taven Bryan, but I’m scared now.

Also, it seems a lot more likely than i orginially thought that he makes it to us in the 2nd round (at least from what I’ve seen from the draft gurus I follow).

Buehler445
02-10-2018, 06:29 AM
I thought the exact same thing when I watched him play but didn't want to be laughed at. Saquon plays like a bigger version of Barry Sanders.

From Zierlein...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/saquon-barkley?id=2559901

You. Uhhhh.... Ever seen Sanders play? More importantly, you ever see Sanders play against guys from his era? Barkley is a hell of a back. But he isn’t and won’t be Sanders.

Dorsey's picked high in the draft all of once, so I don't think anyone has a barometer on what he might do. I can say this, Barkley checks every box in terms of what he looked for in a RB during his tenure in KC.

Right. But he did fill quite a few RB spots here and didn’t spend much draft capital to get there.

He might do different stuff now. One thing about Dorsey is we weren’t ever able to call what he was going to do.