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Hammock Parties
01-29-2018, 09:32 PM
I don't usually quote stuff from the incredible homerfest that is the Chiefs reddit but, man, this actually is a good post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityChiefs/comments/7tpknx/why_the_chiefs_have_no_option_but_to_move_on_from/

1) Smith is getting old - Because of guys like Brady, Brees, Manning, and Favre who played QB at a high level into their late 30's and early 40's, people assume that Smith (who will be 34 next season) still has a couple good years in the tank. The fact that he just had a career year doesn't hurt that argument either.

But when you look at the history of when QB's start to decline, their skills matter a lot. Typically better QB's last longer. That's why a guy like Tom Brady is winning Super Bowls in his late 30's and (maybe) early 40's, but guys like Drew Bledsoe and Chad Pennington didn't even make it to their 35th birthday.

When you look at QB's that are similar to Smith, it's hard to find one who played at a high level at 34 or older. Bledsoe went 3-3 and was benched for Tony Romo at age 34 before retiring. McNabb was traded to the Redskins at age 34 and never had a winning record again. David Gerrard retired at age 33. You get the idea.

But what about Smith's recent season? Doesn't that show he has plenty left in the tank? No, because QB's declines tend to happen very suddenly. Favre had a career year at 40, then couldn't stay on the field at 41. Manning had one of the best QB seasons ever at age 37, but then started to show signs of decline at the end of his age 38 season.

There is no guarantee that Smith continues to play at a high level next year. In fact, it's actually surprisingly likely that he will decline next year.

2) The cap space and draft picks are just too valuable - The Chiefs have quite a lot of talent on offense, but the defense has aged and is starting to weaken. The $17 million we will save would be enough to sign a Pro-Bowl level defensive player. For comparison, Berry will have a $13 million cap hit next year, while Houston will be at $20 million. That would be a huge help to the defense.

Another option is to use the additional space to sign several good-but-not-great players to help fill several holes. That $17 million could get us 2-4 such players. Or we could use it to front-load extensions for guys like Peters and Morse so that we will be better able to fill the team with talent further down the road.

And that doesn't even include the draft pick. We invested a large amount of draft capital into Mahomes, 2 1sts and a 3rd, and while it'll be worth it if he reaches anywhere close to his potential those lost draft picks will hurt. If we can get a 2nd round pick for Smith it will be a great help in getting cheap talent to surround Mahomes.

3) Mahomes is cheap - Since the latest CBA was signed, every single Super Bowl winner has had some cap advantage. The 2012 Ravens had a QB on his rookie deal, as did the 2013 Seahawks. The Patriots have Brady, who has taken less money than he's worth. And the Broncos had a team of free agents who signed team-friendly deals. If the Eagles win this year, they are also led by a cheap QB (whether you want to count Wentz or Foles).

So unless we somehow manage to convince several high-end free agents to sign with us under team-friendly deals, or to convince Smith to take well below what he's worth (hint, neither of those will happen), history is very clear that we'll have a tough time winning the Super Bowl under the current CBA.

The only way we can realistically get this kind of cap advantage is to start a QB on his rookie deal. That is, Mahomes. Every year he sits on the bench is a year we don't get to take advantage of that cap advantage.

4) There's a limit to how much you can develop on the bench - People like to point to Aaron Rodgers as an example of sitting on the bench working, but the reality is that sitting on the bench for 3 years stunted his development. It took him almost 3 full seasons of playing full time before he reached the level we've gotten used to.

This should be common sense, you don't learn by sitting and watching, you learn by doing. Now there are some things you can learn without actually getting experience, but it's limited. The sooner Mahomes gets on the field, the sooner he will gain experience and (hopefully) become the QB we've been waiting for since Montana retired.

5) We wouldn't trade FOR Smith if we didn't already have him, so why wouldn't we trade him? - This is not really a reason, but an argument to show how silly the whole discussion is. I challenge you to find a single person advocating for the Bears or Texans to trade for Smith. Of course they aren't going to trade for him, they have young 2nd year QB's who they invested a lot of draft capital in, they're not going to put them on the bench to play Smith.

This same logic applies to us. Unless you want to argue that Mahomes has less potential than Watson or Trubisky (which would be tough to argue, since Trubisky played at a backup-level last year) why would we want Smith when they don't in identical situations?

6) Our current situation isn't working - We have had Smith as our starter for 5 years and we have yet to even make the AFCCG. You can make all sorts of excuses as for why, but the reality is that we haven't even been close to winning the Super Bowl with Smith. Unless you're happy with just winning in the regular season, doesn't it make sense to make a change at the most important position on the field? Especially considering...

5) Mahomes looks really, really good - Is Mahomes 100% certain to be the next elite QB? No, of course not. But anybody who has watched his play closely has to come to the conclusion that he looks great. And it's not just from the outside, according to Adam Schefter the Chiefs are happier with Mahomes than the Texans are with Watson and the Bears are with Trubisky (and that was before his week 17 start), and every report since has confirmed that the coaches are extremely excited for him.

Why would you want to keep a guy like Mahomes on the bench? Are you really that scared of him busting?

6) Smith's value will never be higher - Everybody knows to buy low and sell high, but it's so hard to do in practice. Smith is a perfect example why. He had MVP-level stats this season, how can you give that up for an unknown?

In reality this is exactly the time you want to trade him. Considering his age and prior production, it is almost certain that 2017 will be the best season of his career.

If you need to be sold, let's examine a player for whom we have the benefit of hindsight. In 2015, at age 30, Adrian Peterson had one of his best seasons ever. He led the league in rushing and rushing TD's, and was 1st team All-Pro. It's common knowledge that runningbacks age poorly, so even without knowing the future the Vikings would have been wise to trade him after that season. But because it's so hard to sell high they didn't, and after that season Peterson only had 72 more rushing yards as a Viking, and they were forced to let him go for nothing. Should we risk a similar situation with Smith?

7) Smith is a free agent next year - This is obvious. Even ignoring everything else, this is the last opportunity we have to trade Smith without signing him to an extension. Are we really going to pass up those draft picks for one year of a QB who has 2 career playoff wins?

In conclusion, there is a mountain of good reasons to move on from Smith, and it's for those reasons that he will almost certainly be traded in the next month or two.

Reerun_KC
01-29-2018, 09:47 PM
Solid article.

The Franchise
01-29-2018, 09:55 PM
All you have to read is #2.

Discuss Thrower
01-29-2018, 09:56 PM
Noticed that earlier today.

It went over just about as well as every other Smith discussion does on that hugbox that is /r/kansascitychiefs

pugsnotdrugs19
01-29-2018, 09:57 PM
Really well put together. Thorough and well informed.

As for his #4, I think one season is the perfect amount of time to let a QB develop. Allows them to ease into the whole NFL preparation process and see what it's all about, and it allows the QB to really get a grasp of the playbook. By now, Patrick should know enough of it to feel comfortable with just reading defenses instead of worrying about what routes are being ran and what protections or audibles are available.

By now, any more time on the bench is far less valuable than playing time. The Kid already showed HUGE strides with his footwork and comfort level under center against Denver, so I think those kinks are mostly worked out. Credit to the coaches and his hard work for that.

Pablo
01-29-2018, 09:57 PM
If you've laid a turd in the toilet, do you flush it or let it hang out a little while?

MMXcalibur
01-29-2018, 10:08 PM
If you've laid a turd in the toilet, do you flush it or let it hang out a little while?

Is the wife coming home anytime soon?
How big is the turd?
What does it weigh (in Courics)?

So many questions....

TimeForWasp
01-29-2018, 10:36 PM
You should be using your talent to get us a good trade for Alex you dumb ass.

Chiefs316
01-29-2018, 10:38 PM
So when do the Chiefs make this final? Can’t be soon enough. Not quite Cassel level but dam near the same. So ready for something different. This show is played out.

TimeForWasp
01-29-2018, 10:38 PM
Give us 10 reasons why Smith is a better choice than Cousins.

Chiefs316
01-29-2018, 10:40 PM
Give us 10 reasons why Smith is a better choice than Cousins.

Wait, why?

RealSNR
01-29-2018, 10:42 PM
Yeah, but his QBR and also he's got lots of money! /Alextards

TimeForWasp
01-29-2018, 10:45 PM
We are going to have Mahomes next year. Time to say nice things about Alex. Profit.

bigjosh
01-29-2018, 11:08 PM
then you have dipshits like this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will regret admitting this but I’d trade Pat Mahomes and Alex Smith right now in a package for Baker Mayfield.</p>&mdash; Matt Conner (@MattConnerAA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattConnerAA/status/956269572008677376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hammock Parties
01-29-2018, 11:09 PM
then you have dipshits like this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will regret admitting this but I’d trade Pat Mahomes and Alex Smith right now in a package for Baker Mayfield.</p>&mdash; Matt Conner (@MattConnerAA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattConnerAA/status/956269572008677376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Arrowhead Addict is run by buttfucking morons.

bigjosh
01-29-2018, 11:13 PM
Arrowhead Addict is run by buttfucking morons.

And that is why they attract all of the tiggers and sandys of the world.

RunKC
01-29-2018, 11:21 PM
Great thing about Pat is even when he’s in his late 30’s he could “fall off a bit” with age and still have the arm strength of a normal QB bc his is a goddamn bazooka.

Guys like Peyton Manning threw floating ducks towards the end..

Hammock Parties
01-29-2018, 11:33 PM
Great thing about Pat is even when he’s in his late 30’s he could “fall off a bit” with age and still have the arm strength of a normal QB bc his is a goddamn bazooka.


Hence why you draft and develop instead of claming a turd off the shitpile.

Jesus how fucking stupid is this franchise. ROFL

bigjosh
01-29-2018, 11:42 PM
Hence why you draft and develop instead of claming a turd off the shitpile.

Jesus how fucking stupid is this franchise. ROFL

I love Derrick Johnson, but I will never get over the fact that we passed on Aaron Rodgers for him.

Nickhead
01-30-2018, 12:39 AM
the only way alex was better than cassell is that he didn't drive one of his team mates to murder/suicide to get off of his team :D

yes, im joking, just taking the piss on all the over reacting, now the season is over ROFL

bevischief
01-30-2018, 01:42 AM
Is the wife coming home anytime soon?
How big is the turd?
What does it weigh (in Courics)?

So many questions....

Midget size with corn and nuts.

cooper barrett
01-30-2018, 02:01 AM
Arrowhead Addict is run by butt****ing morons.

They don't like you either

007
01-30-2018, 03:04 AM
then you have dipshits like this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will regret admitting this but I’d trade Pat Mahomes and Alex Smith right now in a package for Baker Mayfield.</p>&mdash; Matt Conner (@MattConnerAA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattConnerAA/status/956269572008677376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Holy shit? ROFL

CoMoChief
01-30-2018, 03:55 AM
Smith sucks trade him for a 6pk of natty light.

007
01-30-2018, 04:48 AM
Smith sucks trade him for a 6pk of natty light.

you are putting some serious value on Smith there. heh

TigeRRUppeRRcut
01-30-2018, 05:16 AM
Stupid article doesn't address the comp pick you can return on Smith if he plays out his contract. That his deal can be restructured. That he put up awesome stats despite a #1 receiver that still has a lot to learn with route running. The age thing is an absolute shot in his dark and he compares him to bledsoe who was nowhere even close in physical conditioning. Talks about Manning at age 37? Stupid stuff.
Ignores QB depth.

Adam teicher level of stupid

kcxiv
01-30-2018, 06:24 AM
Stupid article doesn't address the comp pick you can return on Smith if he plays out his contract. That his deal can be restructured. That he put up awesome stats despite a #1 receiver that still has a lot to learn with route running. The age thing is an absolute shot in his dark and he compares him to bledsoe who was nowhere even close in physical conditioning. Talks about Manning at age 37? Stupid stuff.
Ignores QB depth.

Adam teicher level of stupid

you really wanna talk about level of stupid when it comes to Quarterbacks? come the **** on dude! This is the definition of irony here folks!

RealSNR
01-30-2018, 06:48 AM
Stupid article doesn't address the comp pick you can return on Smith if he plays out his contract. That his deal can be restructured. That he put up awesome stats despite a #1 receiver that still has a lot to learn with route running. The age thing is an absolute shot in his dark and he compares him to bledsoe who was nowhere even close in physical conditioning. Talks about Manning at age 37? Stupid stuff.
Ignores QB depth.

Adam teicher level of stupid

Mahomes is currently and will be a better QB than Alex next year.

Deal with it.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN
01-30-2018, 07:06 AM
Stupid article doesn't address the comp pick you can return on Smith if he plays out his contract. That his deal can be restructured. That he put up awesome stats despite a #1 receiver that still has a lot to learn with route running. The age thing is an absolute shot in his dark and he compares him to bledsoe who was nowhere even close in physical conditioning. Talks about Manning at age 37? Stupid stuff.
Ignores QB depth.

Adam teicher level of stupid

2 playoff wins in 13 seasons, that's the only stat that matters!

SuperBowl4
01-30-2018, 07:08 AM
Forget about receiving a draft pick for Alex Smith. With that big money he is due and only a one year contract it might be wise for the CHIEFS to offer one of their own picks just to get rid of him.:hmmm:

HemiEd
01-30-2018, 07:32 AM
Stupid article doesn't address the comp pick you can return on Smith if he plays out his contract. That his deal can be restructured. That he put up awesome stats despite a #1 receiver that still has a lot to learn with route running. The age thing is an absolute shot in his dark and he compares him to bledsoe who was nowhere even close in physical conditioning. Talks about Manning at age 37? Stupid stuff.
Ignores QB depth.

Adam teicher level of stupid

Yet you ignore Smith's biggest problem, he ducks his head and runs scared instead of letting the play develop. That is the single biggest reason why this team can't win in the playoffs. He is not going to change that, he has proven without a doubt that he plays scared.

Hog's Gone Fishin
01-30-2018, 07:55 AM
This is going to be the best off season ever with the anticipation of whats to come.

Reerun_KC
01-30-2018, 08:18 AM
This is going to be the best off season ever with the anticipation of whats to come.



Yes.

CaliforniaChief
01-30-2018, 08:19 AM
It's so obvious, really. The Chiefs MUST make the move. So obvious that I wonder if teams won't just wait us out for an outright release.

TEX
01-30-2018, 08:24 AM
Yet you ignore Smith's biggest problem, he ducks his head and runs scared instead of letting the play develop. That is the single biggest reason why this team can't win in the playoffs. He is not going to change that, he has proven without a doubt that he plays scared.

True - I thought this year it would be different, and it was early on. Remember week 1 against the Patriots when the Chiefs needed a 1st down late in the game - Smith scrambled - while looking down field - ran around the right side and hit Wilson down the sideline for a HUGE gain that eventually lead to a TD that sealed the deal. He stopped doing that as the season progressed. Mahomes did that almost every time against Denver - the kid instinctively keeps looking downfield for the play to develop and Smith instinctively tucks and runs or checks down... Everyone talks about the "IT" factor when describing QB's and they talk like it's a non explainable quality - maybe the whole thing is - but one factor that has always defined "IT" for me, is if a QB instinctively looks downfield. Mahomes does. Smith does not. Time for a change. It's an easy decision , especially when you do the math.

nychief
01-30-2018, 08:24 AM
The shelf life for GMs and Coaches is so short in the NFL, they aren't going to let a 2nd round pick get in the way of them getting a dependable QB. This hand wringing over their being a market is over thinking it. There will be a team with a new coach that wants to live to see another day... trade for smith pair him with a protege and you buy yourself 3 years minimum.

TambaBerry
01-30-2018, 08:25 AM
Yet you ignore Smith's biggest problem, he ducks his head and runs scared instead of letting the play develop. That is the single biggest reason why this team can't win in the playoffs. He is not going to change that, he has proven without a doubt that he plays scared.

im not sure how many perfect pockets the dude ran out of this year but probably close to 20 of them.

Hammock Parties
01-30-2018, 08:41 AM
This is going to be the best off season ever with the anticipation of whats to come.

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055602_1757950817561155_3560110946206955475_n.jpg?oh=c7df5cadf8c8c4e58e907628eb7be325&oe=5B1DC5E3

Beef Supreme
01-30-2018, 09:23 AM
If Clark doesn't want to see banners flying over Arrowhead again, they better make the move.

tooge
01-30-2018, 09:29 AM
They will restructure him to a 4 year 48 million dollar deal. He will still be our QB next year, then they will trade him after 2018 when there aren't so many free agents out there. Why? Because Reid is a dumbass and has no balls. Or at least he hasn't seen his since he was about 10 years old.

King_Chief_Fan
01-30-2018, 09:30 AM
Points 2-6-7 are most valid reasons

wazu
01-30-2018, 09:33 AM
Well, there were a lot of people who thought Andy should’ve benched Alex mid-season, but look how that turned out!

hitchief
01-30-2018, 09:34 AM
im not sure how many perfect pockets the dude ran out of this year but probably close to 20 of them.

Not sure how many collapsing pockets he ran out of and picked up a first down but it was a lot of them. Come on man, every qb gets happy feet if they are constantly being pressured. The stats speak for themselves last year and he was excellent.

Every thread evolves into a Smith problem and I get some have Alex on the brain but come on people, this team has a lot of problems. Can we have a decent logical discussion on each of those topics without devolving into "Alex sucks" theme?

Here is a list of problems this team has had on a consistent basis which need to be addressed whether or not Pat is the qb (which he will be next year)

-D cant get off the field on 3rd down
-D cant stop the run
-D giving up those deep jump (50-50) balls on a consistent basis
-D never getting pressure on the qb

-O too many 3 and outs
-O giving up on the run to soon
-O not consistent enough - think this was mostly due to Oline injuries that hurt the running and passing game at the exact same time.

-DC not putting the players in best position to make plays
-DC never blitzing when 4 couldn't get pressure
-OC giving up on the run too often
-OC going into a shell with the play calling to soon
-OC doesn't keep going to the hot weapon until its stopped (Kelce had some games where he just could not be stopped but of course the play calling didn't keep calling his numbee)

-No cap space
-Old players with big contracts who used to be leaders (will cut them probably to make space but then they have to be replaced so not much room to fix other areas)
-No draft picks to make a difference (Alex will get a 2nd at the very most and most likely it will be at the end of the 2nd)

Alex is gone boys and girls, so the above list needs to be addressed. He will no longer be around for you all to make him the scapegoat for the gaping holes in this roster and underachieving players and coachs.

Hammock Parties
01-30-2018, 09:35 AM
They will restructure him to a 4 year 48 million dollar deal. He will still be our QB next year

You didn't watch the Pro Bowl.

Alex was interviewed.

He knows it's over.

He looked like a husband who's wife stayed out all night and came home with her hair messed up.

tooge
01-30-2018, 09:38 AM
You didn't watch the Pro Bowl.

Alex was interviewed.

He knows it's over.

He looked like a husband who's wife stayed out all night and came home with her hair messed up.

Man, I hope so. I did see some of the Pro Bowl, but it was in a loud place and I didn't hear any interview. You got a vid of it? What did he say?

Reerun_KC
01-30-2018, 09:44 AM
Well, there were a lot of people who thought Andy should’ve benched Alex mid-season, but look how that turned out!



Yep turned out as expected. His last drive in the playoffs was vintage.

Otter
01-30-2018, 09:44 AM
All you have to read is #2.And #5</br></br>As a side note, isn't it amazing this guy is posting on Reddit and KC Star is paying the sports columnists it has on their payroll?

Reerun_KC
01-30-2018, 09:46 AM
Not sure how many collapsing pockets he ran out of and picked up a first down but it was a lot of them. Come on man, every qb gets happy feet if they are constantly being pressured. The stats speak for themselves last year and he was excellent.



Every thread evolves into a Smith problem and I get some have Alex on the brain but come on people, this team has a lot of problems. Can we have a decent logical discussion on each of those topics without devolving into "Alex sucks" theme?



Here is a list of problems this team has had on a consistent basis which need to be addressed whether or not Pat is the qb (which he will be next year)



-D cant get off the field on 3rd down

-D cant stop the run

-D giving up those deep jump (50-50) balls on a consistent basis

-D never getting pressure on the qb



-O too many 3 and outs

-O giving up on the run to soon

-O not consistent enough - think this was mostly due to Oline injuries that hurt the running and passing game at the exact same time.



-DC not putting the players in best position to make plays

-DC never blitzing when 4 couldn't get pressure

-OC giving up on the run too often

-OC going into a shell with the play calling to soon

-OC doesn't keep going to the hot weapon until its stopped (Kelce had some games where he just could not be stopped but of course the play calling didn't keep calling his numbee)



-No cap space

-Old players with big contracts who used to be leaders (will cut them probably to make space but then they have to be replaced so not much room to fix other areas)

-No draft picks to make a difference (Alex will get a 2nd at the very most and most likely it will be at the end of the 2nd)



Alex is gone boys and girls, so the above list needs to be addressed. He will no longer be around for you all to make him the scapegoat for the gaping holes in this roster and underachieving players and coachs.



Alex sucks

BleedingRed
01-30-2018, 09:53 AM
then you have dipshits like this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will regret admitting this but I’d trade Pat Mahomes and Alex Smith right now in a package for Baker Mayfield.</p>&mdash; Matt Conner (@MattConnerAA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattConnerAA/status/956269572008677376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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http://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_04_2016/5702d0c42945e_well_there_it_is._the_stupidest_Fcking_thing_Ill_read_all_day.jpg.009e5bdd423eb600ec11 15180a28f3f4.jpg

Hammock Parties
01-30-2018, 09:55 AM
Man, I hope so. I did see some of the Pro Bowl, but it was in a loud place and I didn't hear any interview. You got a vid of it? What did he say?

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King_Chief_Fan
01-30-2018, 09:58 AM
http://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_04_2016/5702d0c42945e_well_there_it_is._the_stupidest_Fcking_thing_Ill_read_all_day.jpg.009e5bdd423eb600ec11 15180a28f3f4.jpg

that must have been knowmo

RunKC
01-30-2018, 09:58 AM
Alex doesn’t sound sad in that video. He sounds like a guy who has no idea where he’ll be and just isn’t worrying about it bc he has no control. He’s talked like that all year.

BlackHelicopters
01-30-2018, 10:01 AM
WWJD?

Discuss Thrower
01-30-2018, 10:05 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I wish I knew. I wish I was in control.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> QB Alex Smith on where he&#39;ll be playing next year. <a href="https://t.co/PUwe1FIlxt">pic.twitter.com/PUwe1FIlxt</a></p>&mdash; Dan Patrick Show (@dpshow) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpshow/status/958369702543212546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hammock Parties
01-30-2018, 10:05 AM
Alex doesn’t sound sad in that video. He sounds like a guy who has no idea where he’ll be and just isn’t worrying about it bc he has no control. He’s talked like that all year.

Bullshit. Look at his eyes.

RunKC
01-30-2018, 10:11 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I wish I knew. I wish I was in control.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> QB Alex Smith on where he&#39;ll be playing next year. <a href="https://t.co/PUwe1FIlxt">pic.twitter.com/PUwe1FIlxt</a></p>&mdash; Dan Patrick Show (@dpshow) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpshow/status/958369702543212546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2018</a></blockquote>
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He definitely sounds sad here:

“Well they have nowhere to go but up. 1-31 over the last 2 years just sounds amazing.”

LMAO

BlackHelicopters
01-30-2018, 10:13 AM
WWCHD?

Red Dawg
01-30-2018, 10:14 AM
http://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_04_2016/5702d0c42945e_well_there_it_is._the_stupidest_Fcking_thing_Ill_read_all_day.jpg.009e5bdd423eb600ec11 15180a28f3f4.jpg

For Baker Mayfield? As if trading Mahomes would even be considered at all.

BleedingRed
01-30-2018, 10:16 AM
For Baker Mayfield? As if trading Mahomes would even be considered at all.

I mean, yeah lets trade the KID who has the perfect skill set for Andy Reid's WCO......


Seems like a good idea! I mean sure Mayfield has a weaker arm, worse accuracy, and a spotty off the field record!

He has "IT"

Hammock Parties
01-30-2018, 10:21 AM
Not sure how many collapsing pockets he ran out of and picked up a first down but it was a lot of them.

Fake news.

Alex was barely good for 1 first down rushing per game this season, and that 70-yard run totally skewed his rushing stats.

Most of the time when he runs it's pretty pointless.

QB rushing leaders, first downs

Cam Newton - 46
Russell Wilson - 35
Dak Prescott - 29
Deshone Kizer - 28
Tyrod Taylor - 26
Carson Wentz - 26
Marcus Mariota - 22
Brett Hundley - 21
Alex Smith - 19
Blake Bortles - 19
Kirk Cousins - 17

Chiefnj2
01-30-2018, 10:25 AM
I'm amazed how fixated people remain on Alex Smith. Let's analyze his Pro Bowl performance, his interviews, his lack of dodge ball skills, etc. Holy cow, move on. People talk about how glad they are he is gone, but continue to obsess over him like a jilted lover.

Mr. Plow
01-30-2018, 10:30 AM
Found Sandy in the comments.....


Yeah I laughed out loud on point 6. “Current situation isn’t working, can’t even make it to a AFCCG.” Looks at playoff losses and sees the defense, not Smith, “not working”. In fact, Smith saved the offense from looking terrible. Drops were a huge issue this year.

Then you look at playoff injuries. Half our team in Indy. JC and Houston against NE. Kelce against Tennessee.

Stupid to put that blame on Alex

Hammock Parties
01-30-2018, 10:32 AM
I'm amazed how fixated people remain on Alex Smith. Let's analyze his Pro Bowl performance, his interviews, his lack of dodge ball skills, etc. Holy cow, move on. People talk about how glad they are he is gone, but continue to obsess over him like a jilted lover.

If you trust this franchise completely to make the right move, you haven't been a fan very long.

It's a sluffing off of nervous energy.

RippedmyFlesh
01-30-2018, 10:40 AM
I'm amazed how fixated people remain on Alex Smith. Let's analyze his Pro Bowl performance, his interviews, his lack of dodge ball skills, etc. Holy cow, move on. People talk about how glad they are he is gone, but continue to obsess over him like a jilted lover.

Because she is not gone. Her panty hose still hang in the shower. When she is completely gone we will stop obsessing.

Ragged Robin
01-30-2018, 11:13 AM
Dear Reddit,

No Shit.

loochy
01-30-2018, 11:21 AM
I'm amazed how fixated people remain on Alex Smith. Let's analyze his Pro Bowl performance, his interviews, his lack of dodge ball skills, etc. Holy cow, move on. People talk about how glad they are he is gone, but continue to obsess over him like a jilted lover.

He's not gone and we don't trust the management enough to be sure that he will be
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HemiEd
01-30-2018, 11:28 AM
True - I thought this year it would be different, and it was early on. Remember week 1 against the Patriots when the Chiefs needed a 1st down late in the game - Smith scrambled - while looking down field - ran around the right side and hit Wilson down the sideline for a HUGE gain that eventually lead to a TD that sealed the deal. He stopped doing that as the season progressed. Mahomes did that almost every time against Denver - the kid instinctively keeps looking downfield for the play to develop and Smith instinctively tucks and runs or checks down... Everyone talks about the "IT" factor when describing QB's and they talk like it's a non explainable quality - maybe the whole thing is - but one factor that has always defined "IT" for me, is if a QB instinctively looks downfield. Mahomes does. Smith does not. Time for a change. It's an easy decision , especially when you do the math.You are exactly right. I remember thinking in that first game, holy crap, Mahomes has scared Alex into not being scared anymore. Then he reverted back.
Like you said, seeing Mahomes hang in there further pointed out the issue. The receivers know it as well and I don't think it is lost on the defense either.


im not sure how many perfect pockets the dude ran out of this year but probably close to 20 of them.

Yeah, you know it is coming, just like the holding calls at exactly the wrong time.

Sandy Vagina
01-30-2018, 11:41 AM
I'm amazed how fixated people remain on Alex Smith. Let's analyze his Pro Bowl performance, his interviews, his lack of dodge ball skills, etc. Holy cow, move on. People talk about how glad they are he is gone, but continue to obsess over him like a jilted lover.

... and it won't go away for YEARS. 49ers fans still going at it 6 years later, LOL.

There will be no less than two dozen CPers registering at wherever he ends up. Add in a dozen SF fans still bitter at Alex's success. Forum grudges seem to never end, for some sad reason.

Alex Smith reduces grown men to belligerent children... and the ghost of Alex Smith makes sure that they remain this way. :facepalm:

Hammock Parties
01-30-2018, 11:45 AM
... and it won't go away for YEARS. 49ers fans still going at it 6 years later, LOL.


Yeah, no. We're going to be too busy draining our dicks over real QB play, sorry.

49ers fans still go at it because of you lot and your sorry bullshit.

Valiant
01-30-2018, 11:59 AM
It's so obvious, really. The Chiefs MUST make the move. So obvious that I wonder if teams won't just wait us out for an outright release.

That can certainly happen. But if it does here is to hoping some other teams starter goes down in preseason and we get a first.

arrwheader
01-30-2018, 12:02 PM
I'm amazed how fixated people remain on Alex Smith. Let's analyze his Pro Bowl performance, his interviews, his lack of dodge ball skills, etc. Holy cow, move on. People talk about how glad they are he is gone, but continue to obsess over him like a jilted lover.

Last I checked he is still on the payroll. Until he is gone officially hes a Chief and this is Chiefsplanet.com.

There is still a possibility he's here next year until they say it. IF you have to ask why then you aren't a Chiefs fan or haven't been one very long.

tooge
01-30-2018, 12:12 PM
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Meh. No disrespect to your people reading skills, but if Alex Smith is one thing, he's a class guy. He just says all the right things to not offend any side. I hope you are right

The Franchise
01-30-2018, 12:14 PM
Speaking on the Dan Patrick Show, Alex Smith said he would like to stay in Kansas City.

The Chiefs are fully expected to move on from Smith after drafting Patrick Mahomes last year, but the veteran would like to stick around if possible. "I love where I'm at," Smith said. "But who knows. I've been playing long enough. I've been through this before." Asked about moving to the Browns, Smith said he has not "even thought about it," but they have "nowhere to go but up." The quarterback also added he would prefer going to a playoff team if possible.

Hammock Parties
01-30-2018, 12:15 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUzgB3mVAAEqT5_.jpg:large

lcarus
01-30-2018, 12:22 PM
Even if you have a poster of Alex in swim trunks eating spaghetti while covered in oil, as Im positive a few here do, it makes too much sense to trade him if you care one bit about the chiefs as a team. Which im sure a few here dont.

bigjosh
01-30-2018, 12:29 PM
Not sure how many collapsing pockets he ran out of and picked up a first down but it was a lot of them. Come on man, every qb gets happy feet if they are constantly being pressured. The stats speak for themselves last year and he was excellent.

Every thread evolves into a Smith problem and I get some have Alex on the brain but come on people, this team has a lot of problems. Can we have a decent logical discussion on each of those topics without devolving into "Alex sucks" theme?

Here is a list of problems this team has had on a consistent basis which need to be addressed whether or not Pat is the qb (which he will be next year)

-D cant get off the field on 3rd down
-D cant stop the run
-D giving up those deep jump (50-50) balls on a consistent basis
-D never getting pressure on the qb

-O too many 3 and outs
-O giving up on the run to soon
-O not consistent enough - think this was mostly due to Oline injuries that hurt the running and passing game at the exact same time.

-DC not putting the players in best position to make plays
-DC never blitzing when 4 couldn't get pressure
-OC giving up on the run too often
-OC going into a shell with the play calling to soon
-OC doesn't keep going to the hot weapon until its stopped (Kelce had some games where he just could not be stopped but of course the play calling didn't keep calling his numbee)

-No cap space
-Old players with big contracts who used to be leaders (will cut them probably to make space but then they have to be replaced so not much room to fix other areas)
-No draft picks to make a difference (Alex will get a 2nd at the very most and most likely it will be at the end of the 2nd)

Alex is gone boys and girls, so the above list needs to be addressed. He will no longer be around for you all to make him the scapegoat for the gaping holes in this roster and underachieving players and coachs.

TLDR

Negged for Gay wall of words.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130411022908/wrestlingforum/images/1/1e/Neg_gif.gif

Sandy Vagina
01-30-2018, 01:03 PM
Even if you have a poster of Alex in swim trunks eating spaghetti while covered in oil, as Im positive a few here do, it makes too much sense to trade him if you care one bit about the chiefs as a team. Which im sure a few here dont.

If anyone produces this poster to me by the end of business today, you will be swimming in CASH MONEY...
or MY VAG SPUNK... or MAYBE BOTH.

http://i.imgur.com/bJWC2EI.gif

JENKINSWINS
01-30-2018, 01:32 PM
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AssEaterChief
01-30-2018, 01:39 PM
Alex Smith cucking it up on the Herd in a couple minutes…

JENKINSWINS
01-30-2018, 01:54 PM
https://youtu.be/Zol4OLuVta8?t=6m32s

Reerun_KC
01-30-2018, 02:08 PM
I see spamming the board is allowed today.

ptlyon
01-30-2018, 02:19 PM
I see spamming the board is allowed today.

Welcome to Spam Tuesday

rico
01-30-2018, 05:17 PM
If anyone produces this poster to me by the end of business today, you will be swimming in CASH MONEY...
or MY VAG SPUNK... or MAYBE BOTH.

http://i.imgur.com/bJWC2EI.gif

I think you probably better get that chlamydia cleared up...It's one thing to give the board the clap, but to have it in your vag? You are just disgusting, Sandy.

SAUTO
01-30-2018, 06:07 PM
I'm amazed how fixated people remain on Alex Smith. Let's analyze his Pro Bowl performance, his interviews, his lack of dodge ball skills, etc. Holy cow, move on. People talk about how glad they are he is gone, but continue to obsess over him like a jilted lover.

He's not gone yet.

OnTheWarpath15
01-30-2018, 06:59 PM
http://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_04_2016/5702d0c42945e_well_there_it_is._the_stupidest_Fcking_thing_Ill_read_all_day.jpg.009e5bdd423eb600ec11 15180a28f3f4.jpg

And then you read this:


Stupid article doesn't address the comp pick you can return on Smith if he plays out his contract. That his deal can be restructured. That he put up awesome stats despite a #1 receiver that still has a lot to learn with route running. The age thing is an absolute shot in his dark and he compares him to bledsoe who was nowhere even close in physical conditioning. Talks about Manning at age 37? Stupid stuff.
Ignores QB depth.

Adam teicher level of stupid

Dave Lane
01-30-2018, 08:17 PM
Well, there were a lot of people who thought Andy should’ve benched Alex mid-season, but look how that turned out!

Yep we got our chance to be embarrassed by an epic collapse once again

KChiefs1
01-30-2018, 11:25 PM
It's so obvious, really. The Chiefs MUST make the move. So obvious that I wonder if teams won't just wait us out for an outright release.

Nope

TimeForWasp
01-31-2018, 01:31 AM
Give us 10 reasons why Smith is a better choice than Cousins.

My ploy worked