Childress signs with Bears

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">His retirement is short lived: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> are expected to hire Brad Childress as an offensive consultant, source said. Nagy and Childress are very close, so it&#39;s not exactly a surprise.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/960589193297657856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[CasselGotPeedOn]

I would want to get away from fat Andy too.

[JoeyChuckles]

The Chiefsification of the Bears continues.

[seaofred]

Was his contract with KC up? I don't see how he could retire, then sign with the Bears if it wasn't.

[siberian khatru]

It's a proven fact that Reid assistants have a better chance of winning a Super Bowl than Reid himself.

[carcosa]

Andy Reid sucks

[DaneMcCloud]

Wow. Clearly, Chilly wanted out.

Crazy.

[Eleazar]

More rats off the ship

[KChiefs1]

We should have traded him to the Bears.

[arrwheader]

LOL

[The Franchise]

Bears hired Brad Childress as offensive consultant.

Childress "retired" from the Chiefs last month. Evidently Andy Reid didn't want him back as assistant head coach. Childress is "very close" to ex-Chiefs coordinator and new Bears coach Matt Nagy. "Chilly" turns 62 in June.

[Eleazar]

So, Bears to the 'Bowl in the next couple of years then? LMAO

Because Chiefs

[dj56dt58]

So, Bears to the 'Bowl in the next couple of years then? LMAO

Because Chiefs

Yes they will win the SB..with Tyler Bray at QB

[NWTF]

Wow. Clearly, Chilly wanted out.

Crazy.

Makes you wonder why. Not that I gaf about Childress, but it would seem to be a downgrade IMO. Hed be Andys right hand man as the Mahomes era begins, and yes clearly he wasnt interested.

The Bears may improve, but again it would seem the Chiefs would be the better place to be.

[Jerm]

Can Bob Sutton "retire" now please....

[Ragged Robin]

there is literally no one left on the offensive coaching staff to save Andy from himself

[DaneMcCloud]

Well, one thing of note: All of Andy's new hires, outside of Bieniemy, have been men in their early 30's, not guys like Sutton and Chilly in their 60's.

[Sassy Squatch]

Oh no. Childress fucked off to Chicogo? Whatever will we do?

[JakeF]

Why would any experience offensive guy want to work for Reid and be a paper carrier?

Just like in Philly, Reid has full control of everything below Clark Hunt.

[JakeF]

Oh no. Childress fucked off to Chicogo? Whatever will we do?Not the point

[The Franchise]

I wonder if Andy didn't want Childress to stick around because he wouldn't need him for Smith.

[Sassy Squatch]

Why would any experience offensive guy want to work for Reid and be a paper carrier?

Just like in Philly, Reid has full control of everything below Clark Hunt.
Think about what you just asked. I mean, REALLY think about it for a minute, then come back.

[alpha_omega]

Did he ever do anything here anyway?

[JakeF]

Think about what you just asked. I mean, REALLY think about it for a minute, then come back.I would rather hear the opinion of the guy who just said "Oh no. Childress fucked off to Chicogo? Whatever will we do?"

[Sassy Squatch]

I would rather hear the opinion of the guy who just said "Oh no. Childress fucked off to Chicogo? Whatever will we do?"
Lets try it this way since your critical thinking skills are MIA. I'll lob a softball to you. What do Andy Reid coordinators usually go on to do, especially in recent history?

[JakeF]

Lets try it this way since your critical thinking skills are MIA. I'll lob a softball to you. What do Andy Reid coordinators usually go on to do, especially in recent history?
Considering about a 1/4 of the head coaches in the NFL are part of the Reid coaching tree, I would say they go on to be pretty productive.

[JakeF]

Did he ever do anything here anyway?
We'll never know because we don't really know who has any power behind Andy Reid.

[Sassy Squatch]

Considering about a 1/4 of the head coaches in the NFL are part of the Reid coaching tree, I would say they go on to be pretty productive.
Good. Good. Now you have the answer to the question: Why would any experience offensive guy want to work for Reid and be a paper carrier?

[NWTF]

Did he ever do anything here anyway?

Not much. Supposedly he scouted future opponents for weaknesses and designed a few plays that would expose them then handed it off to Reid once that opponent was on deck and Reid took it from there.

[JakeF]

Good. Good. Now you have the answer to the question: Why would any experience offensive guy want to work for Reid and be a paper carrier?
The word you seem to be overlooking is "experienced". Young guys jump at the chance to work for Reid but as soon as they gain experience they need to leave and get out from under Reid's limited ability. Just like Schottenheimer on the defensive side.

[Sassy Squatch]

The word you seem to be overlooking is "experienced". Young guys jump at the chance to work for Reid but as soon as they gain experience they need to leave and get out from under Reid's limited ability. Just like Schottenheimer on the defensive side.
I don't want Reid to get these "experienced" has beens.

[Chief Roundup]

In some ways it seems that everyone is trying to get away from Reid.

[Ragged Robin]

In some ways it seems that everyone is trying to get away from Reid.

but according to Clay, it's McNabb, Vick, Kolb, Foles, and Smith who have been holding Reid back from a championship throughout his entire career, he just wins!!

[Sassy Squatch]

In some ways it seems that everyone is trying to get away from Reid.
Who has left that took a lateral move. Chilly and...?

[DaneMcCloud]

Who has left that took a lateral move. Chilly and...?

David Culley left in 2016 to become the QB coach in Buffalo after being Assistant Head Coach/Receiver for years with Reid.

[Red Dawg]

Oh no, not Chilly! He was so important to nothing in KC. What will we ever do.

[Iowanian]

collusion! Collusion!

Chiefs should lobby for a chicago draft pick for #fakenews retirement to get out of a contract.

[wazu]

In some ways it seems that everyone is trying to get away from Reid.

Oh come on.

[NJChiefsFan]

In some ways it seems that everyone is trying to get away from Reid.

Is moving on to become head coaches really trying to "get away"? That's taking a major promotion. Nagy and Pederson aren't marks against Reid, they are marks for him.

[MahiMike]

there is literally no one left on the offensive coaching staff to save Andy from himself

Mahomes

[King_Chief_Fan]

Mahomes

He cant either

[King_Chief_Fan]

Oh no, not Chilly! He was so important to nothing in KC. What will we ever do.

Seems like rats jumping a sinking ship. ..Captain Fat Andy

[King_Chief_Fan]

but according to Clay, it's McNabb, Vick, Kolb, Foles, and Smith who have been holding Reid back from a championship throughout his entire career, he just wins!!

Yup and eventually the moron will blame Mahomes

[mdchiefsfan]

Think about what you just asked. I mean, REALLY think about it for a minute, then come back.

Seriously. We are churning out HCs, OCs, even GMs. We’re like the minor league for operational and personnel staff for the NFL.

[Rams Fan]

Why would any experience offensive guy want to work for Reid and be a paper carrier?

Just like in Philly, Reid has full control of everything below Clark Hunt.

Ask Matt Nagy.

Or Doug Pederson.

Or Brad Childress.

Or Pat Shurmur.

That's just the offensive guys.

[Trivers]

Circle jerk of anti-Reid CPers.

Move along, nothing to see here.

[Hoover]

Circle jerk of anti-Reid CPers.

Move along, nothing to see here.
Yep.

I think its more important to be adding new and younger people to the staff.

[raybec 4]

There are some dumb fucks up in here. Reid will make Mahomes a star and the Chiefs will be AFC contenders for years to come (after 2018)

[lcarus]

"Ok Andy. I'm an old grizzled man. I'm gonna dust off my old saddle and ride off into the sunset I guess. Thanks and good luck."

5 minutes later in the car "Matt! I ditched em. Yeah he bought it hahahaha. Friggin losers. See you soon!"

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't think Chilly gets nearly enough credit for what he did for Andy Reid. Might be an unsung hero.

I have to guess a lot of what you saw on Sunday, Chilly was responsible for a lot of that. All the RPO, the diamond formation, I mean... just wow!

[Hoover]

I don't think Chilly gets nearly enough credit for what he did for Andy Reid. Might be an unsung hero.

I have to guess a lot of what you saw on Sunday, Chilly was responsible for a lot of that. All the RPO, the diamond formation, I mean... just wow!

Yet the innovation still seems to be seen every year with Reid. I mean at this rate Eric Bieniemy will be the head coach of the Bengals next year! Seriously - Reid has made a lot of coaches a lot of money.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I don't think Chilly gets nearly enough credit for what he did for Andy Reid. Might be an unsung hero.

I have to guess a lot of what you saw on Sunday, Chilly was responsible for a lot of that. All the RPO, the diamond formation, I mean... just wow!

JFC

[Buehler445]

I don't think Chilly gets nearly enough credit for what he did for Andy Reid. Might be an unsung hero.

I have to guess a lot of what you saw on Sunday, Chilly was responsible for a lot of that. All the RPO, the diamond formation, I mean... just wow!

You think that's Chilly and not Reid?

Why in the name of absolute fuck would you think that?

[KCUnited]

Lol, Reid convinced Clark to give Chilly a paycheck and now that butt fucking moran Bears GM has been duped into giving him a paycheck. NFL Nepotism, Get In The Game!

[ModSocks]

Lol, Reid convinced Clark to give Chilly a paycheck and now that butt ****ing moran Bears GM has been duped into giving him a paycheck. NFL Nepotism, Get In The Game!

He's not in the NFL.

[KCUnited]

He's not in the NFL.

Ok good, so after collecting checks from the Chiefs and Bears, he's finally getting towards where he belongs.

[JoeyChuckles]

He's not in the NFL.

Are we sure about that? Cause this article states "Senior Offensive Consultant" Brad Childress. Did he quit after 6 months on the job?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-matt-nagy-coaching-staff-20180227-story.html

[ModSocks]

Are we sure about that? Cause this article states "Senior Offensive Consultant" Brad Childress. Did he quit after 6 months on the job?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-matt-nagy-coaching-staff-20180227-story.html

He's a HC in that new startup league now.

[KCUnited]

A hot commodity outside of obvious nfl fleecing.

Chilly
Berry
Peters
Clark

[JoeyChuckles]

Huh. Good to know.

[Dunerdr]

A hot commodity outside of obvious nfl fleecing.

Chilly
Berry
Peters
Clark

Can't you fools see its the price we paid for mahomes.

[chiefzilla1501]

You think that's Chilly and not Reid?

Why in the name of absolute **** would you think that?

When did I say Reid had nothing to do with it?

Chilly was brought in specifically to research the college game. He was a "spread consultant." Reid ran a creative offense with Smith. But what we ran Sunday was wildly innovative with a ton of college concepts. Triple option, diamond formation, lots of RPO. We ran a very college offense. Doesn't the man who consulted on that get credit for that?

[chiefzilla1501]

Yet the innovation still seems to be seen every year with Reid. I mean at this rate Eric Bieniemy will be the head coach of the Bengals next year! Seriously - Reid has made a lot of coaches a lot of money.

Reid is an offensive genius. I doubt he had the time to research the college game. Chilly sucked calling plays. They doesn't mean he didn't help inspire Reid with a lot of the ideas he used Sunday they are wildly creative and heavily influenced by college offenses.

[Deberg_1990]

He's a HC in that new startup league now.

He’s head coach of the Atlanta team.

The league has acquired some decent talent at least.


Chilly, Spurrier, Singletary, Mike Riley, Rick Neuheisel, Mike Martz, Dennis Erickson, etc

https://aaf.com

[chiefzilla1501]

JFC

Of course you're going to be a contrarian **** about this.

https://www.theringer.com/2016/8/24/16077158/nfl-spread-offense-quarterbacks-72148a036561#.ci0tf255v

There you go. Pretty clear that he inspired a lot of our offensive scheme.

[SAUTO]

Are we sure about that? Cause this article states "Senior Offensive Consultant" Brad Childress. Did he quit after 6 months on the job?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-matt-nagy-coaching-staff-20180227-story.html

1 month

[Buehler445]

When did I say Reid had nothing to do with it?

Chilly was brought in specifically to research the college game. He was a "spread consultant." Reid ran a creative offense with Smith. But what we ran Sunday was wildly innovative with a ton of college concepts. Triple option, diamond formation, lots of RPO. We ran a very college offense. Doesn't the man who consulted on that get credit for that?

Not typically, no.

I'm not giving a ton of credit to my agronomist that consults on my crops. You don't see any Fortune 500 companies giving credit to the HR consultants, or market research consultants, or their accounting firms, or any litany of other consultants in business in their quarterly earnings calls.

[chiefzilla1501]

Not typically, no.

I'm not giving a ton of credit to my agronomist that consults on my crops. You don't see any Fortune 500 companies giving credit to the HR consultants, or market research consultants, or their accounting firms, or any litany of other consultants in business in their quarterly earnings calls.

If your CBs show great footwork, you don't give the DBs coach credit for the scheme, but you credit him for good coaching.

Chilly's job was to scout pro and college teams, and find innovative ideas. Many are saying we have the most innovative offense in football. Would Reid have even known about a lot of these college concepts if Chilly didn't tell him about it? I would think if an outside consultant pointed you to a farming technique you hadn't considered before, and it worked, you'd give credit for that. You don't need that consultant to run your farm. But he'd deserve credit for the idea.

[chiefzilla1501]

Something else that's crazy to consider.
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/1/5/16853446/afc-playoffs-influential-offense-andy-reid-kansas-city-chiefs-college-spread
"When he hired Brad Childress in Kansas City, the former Vikings head coach was given the title of “spread game analyst.” Last summer, I had a long discussion about the future of the spread with Childress. He told me that many of his ideas about what types of spread plays could work in the NFL came from an FCS quarterback he watched who could change quickly from spread to pro concepts with ease. The quarterback was Carson Wentz."

Any thoughts on who the head coach was that traded up to draft Carson Wentz? Hmm... Wonder where that idea came from?

[-King-]

Reid is an offensive genius. I doubt he had the time to research the college game. Chilly sucked calling plays. They doesn't mean he didn't help inspire Reid with a lot of the ideas he used Sunday they are wildly creative and heavily influenced by college offenses.

....so you're guessing?
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[Hoover]

This tard has to Childress himself right. LOL

Who fucking cares? And we now have a QB who can make the throws and anticipate. That’s probably the biggest difference. Oh and Patrick came from a spread offense

[chiefzilla1501]

....so you're guessing?
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2018/09/10/the-chiefs-gave-us-a-peek-at-the-future-of-nfl-offenses/111299442/
"During his time on the Chiefs staff, Brad Childress may have had the most unique job of any NFL coach. His official title: Spread game analyst. His task: Track offensive trends showing up around all levels of the sport and helping to integrate them into the Chiefs offense."

It's way more than a guess. The guy specifically asked to study college spread concepts probably had a lot to do with KC incorporating college spread concepts into their offense.

[Buehler445]

If your CBs show great footwork, you don't give the DBs coach credit for the scheme, but you credit him for good coaching.

Chilly's job was to scout pro and college teams, and find innovative ideas. Many are saying we have the most innovative offense in football. Would Reid have even known about a lot of these college concepts if Chilly didn't tell him about it? I would think if an outside consultant pointed you to a farming technique you hadn't considered before, and it worked, you'd give credit for that. You don't need that consultant to run your farm. But he'd deserve credit for the idea.

Well, he has everywhere else he's been. A lot of those concepts he was using with Vick.

[chiefzilla1501]

This tard has to Childress himself right. LOL

Who ****ing cares? And we now have a QB who can make the throws and anticipate. That’s probably the biggest difference. Oh and Patrick came from a spread offense

Considering Childress was shouting up & down about Wentz being the "holy grail" QB because he can run spread & pro style, it wouldn't surprise me if that helped plant the seed to Reid/Dorsey that a spread QB like Mahomes could succeed in the NFL. And if he lobbied for a spread QB, he probably also had a lot of ideas about what innovative concepts you could introduce with a "holy grail" QB. Of course Mahomes makes a huge difference. I'd bet because of Alex Smith's limitations we had a lot of these ideas brewing for years, but knew Alex wasn't the right QB to run the plays.

[Buehler445]

Considering Childress was shouting up & down about Wentz being the "holy grail" QB because he can run spread & pro style, it wouldn't surprise me if that helped plant the seed to Reid/Dorsey that a spread QB like Mahomes could succeed in the NFL. And if he lobbied for a spread QB, he probably also had a lot of ideas about what innovative concepts you could introduce with a "holy grail" QB. Of course Mahomes makes a huge difference. I'd bet because of Alex Smith's limitations we had a lot of these ideas brewing for years, but knew Alex wasn't the right QB to run the plays.

Or.

Just spitballing here, but he might not be that good of... anything. He basically hasn't done fuckall since he was fired from Minnesota and bolted for an UPSTART league a MONTH after taking a job.

[chiefzilla1501]

Well, he has everywhere else he's been. A lot of those concepts he was using with Vick.

Reid is an offensive genius. Of course he is easily the biggest reason for our offense's innovation. But right now tons of people are saying we are THE model for how the spread and college concepts could work in the NFL. Not just good at it. The best.

I mean, people on this thread are calling Childress a joke and insisting he had virtually no influence on this offense. You don't think that's a little weird for the guy who was specifically asked to scout college spread offenses gets no credit for the Chiefs introducing a heavily college-influenced offense?

[chiefzilla1501]

Or.

Just spitballing here, but he might not be that good of... anything. He basically hasn't done ****all since he was fired from Minnesota and bolted for an UPSTART league a MONTH after taking a job.

After Andy Reid mastered the spread concepts, what use did he have for Chilly anymore? Certainly not to run an offense. Chilly can't run a team or an offense. That doesn't mean he didn't do a very good job at what he was specifically asked to do. Which had nothing to do with coaching.

[Buehler445]

After Andy Reid mastered the spread concepts, what use did he have for Chilly anymore? Certainly not to run an offense. Chilly can't run a team or an offense. That doesn't mean he didn't do a very good job at what he was specifically asked to do. Which had nothing to do with coaching.

So your assertion is that it took him 5 years to get a grasp of college concepts?

I really don't really care enough to die on this hill, but I have a hard time buying he was a driving force for much.

[-King-]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2018/09/10/the-chiefs-gave-us-a-peek-at-the-future-of-nfl-offenses/111299442/
"During his time on the Chiefs staff, Brad Childress may have had the most unique job of any NFL coach. His official title: Spread game analyst. His task: Track offensive trends showing up around all levels of the sport and helping to integrate them into the Chiefs offense."

It's way more than a guess. The guy specifically asked to study college spread concepts probably had a lot to do with KC incorporating college spread concepts into their offense.
But we saw Philly run spread and college concepts when Reid was there.
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[chiefzilla1501]

So your assertion is that it took him 5 years to get a grasp of college concepts?

I really don't really care enough to die on this hill, but I have a hard time buying he was a driving force for much.

Not at all. Imagine it only took a couple of years. After he was promoted to OC he was totally useless.

[chiefzilla1501]

But we saw Philly run spread and college concepts when Reid was there.
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His offense today is a hell of a lot more innovative today than it was then. Not that his old offense wasn't creative back then. But today we are considered by many to be the most innovative, and widely believed to be THE model of a college/NFL offense.

[Buehler445]

Whatever you say man.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Full zilla activated...

[chiefzilla1501]

Full zilla activated...

Good grief, you can't be this dense.

Andy Reid hired Childress to study the spread. You know what "spread analyst" means? It means analyzing the spread. Multiple articles said Reid specifically asked Childress to learn everything there is to know about college and high school spread. I'm sure Reid kept Childress in that highly specific role while ignoring for 3 years every single idea on the one thing he was paid for to study.

Meanwhile the Chiefs just ran an offense that featured NINETEEN college-inspired plays (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ses/111299442/) on Sunday. But no, the guy asked to analyze the spread and learn all about the college offense had no influence whatsoever on that. None. JFC.

[TribalElder]

programatic non-fit

[Chargem]

I just assumed a spread analyst would be looking for ways to make Andy a few extra bucks backing teams to cover the spread in Vegas.

[chiefzilla1501]

I just assumed a spread analyst would be looking for ways to make Andy a few extra bucks backing teams to cover the spread in Vegas.

Possible it was to look into Andy Reid's food spread. Even for Andy that seems a little overpaid.

[rabblerouser]

Good grief, you can't be this dense.

Andy Reid hired Childress to study the spread. You know what "spread analyst" means? It means analyzing the spread. Multiple articles said Reid specifically asked Childress to learn everything there is to know about college and high school spread. I'm sure Reid kept Childress in that highly specific role while ignoring for 3 years every single idea on the one thing he was paid for to study.

Meanwhile the Chiefs just ran an offense that featured NINETEEN college-inspired plays (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ses/111299442/) on Sunday. But no, the guy asked to analyze the spread and learn all about the college offense had no influence whatsoever on that. None. JFC.

And Chilly parlayed that into head coach of the Atlanta Alliance.

Good for Chilly.

[tatorhog]

I. for one, am happy the ghost of Chilly still inspires this team to greatness.

[chiefzilla1501]

And Chilly parlayed that into head coach of the Atlanta Alliance.

Good for Chilly.

I think chilly is out of the league because he wants to be a head coach or coordinator, and he sucks at that. He's also worthless now as a spread analyst because Reid's already figured out most of f it. So now teams just need to copycat Reid. He's outlived his usefulness in the NFL. The new league is actually a really good place for him.