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In58men

02-07-2018, 09:19 PM

Browsing cards on eBay and why is Mahomes wearing 00?

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cosmo20002

02-07-2018, 09:32 PM

Sent to production before he had a number assigned?

Rain Man

02-07-2018, 09:38 PM

I never thought about this, but is there a rule that you have to keep the same jersey number all year? If I was an NFL player, I think I'd change mine weekly to keep the opposition off guard.

Indian Chief

02-07-2018, 10:05 PM

I never thought about this, but is there a rule that you have to keep the same jersey number all year? If I was an NFL player, I think I'd change mine weekly to keep the opposition off guard.

There is. Remember when Chad Johnson wanted to change his name? He had to wait until the next year or something along those lines.

Easy 6

02-07-2018, 10:12 PM

Rubber Sponge probably knows, my knowledge is too out of date

All I know is that the top Mahomes card I can find is somewhere close to 2k, and theres only something like 7-10 of them ever made... shit has become ridiculous

Google image Pat Mahomes rookie cards, there are some ****ing beauties out there... prism signature jersey cards, and some of the best looking are worth far less than the gaudy mfers

I've basically given up on the whole thing

In the 90s, new brands I'd never even heard of got hot QUICK then fell completely off the map 10 years later

And most of these new $1000+ dollar cards are probably no different IMO... worth a small fortune now, but in 10 years you'll be left wondering why in the **** you even bothered

Its become a joke, sad

Rain Man

02-07-2018, 11:07 PM

There is. Remember when Chad Johnson wanted to change his name? He had to wait until the next year or something along those lines.

Oh, that's too bad. Or maybe it's actually good now that I think about it.

Mephistopheles Janx

02-07-2018, 11:34 PM

SO....

Mahomes would be required to purchase all remaining stock of anything with his number 15 on it. This was actually brought up in an article I read recently about him possibly going back to his college #5 (which he couldn't have when he was drafted because Santos already had it).

TribalElder

02-07-2018, 11:55 PM

jason54858

02-08-2018, 01:24 AM

Browsing cards on eBay and why is Mahomes wearing 00?

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They are called Origin cards for a reason (they are an early set, like literally right after the draft). They were made before the numbers were officially chosen I think. You rarely (if ever) see an Origin rookie card with the actual player number

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2017-panini-origins-football-cards

Stryker

02-08-2018, 07:55 AM

Holy cow!!!!! :shake:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini-Contenders-Patrick-Mahomes-Cracked-Ice-Rookie-Ticket-Autograph-25/183061199564?hash=item2a9f4c3acc:g:mHcAAOSw-RFaYlVl

KCrockaholic

02-08-2018, 08:05 AM

I don't like photoshopped cards. To me those have no value.

Simply Red

02-08-2018, 09:24 AM

only nude playing cards that have women with big bushes on them.

Discuss Thrower

02-08-2018, 09:38 AM

I never thought about this, but is there a rule that you have to keep the same jersey number all year? If I was an NFL player, I think I'd change mine weekly to keep the opposition off guard.

You can't change midseason (AFAIK) and if you make a change between seasons you're on the hook for buying up any existing merchandise of your previous number.

KChiefs1

02-08-2018, 12:03 PM

only nude playing cards that have women with big bushes on them.

I got one with Betty White in it. Not this year's deck but one from the 50's.

dlphg9

02-08-2018, 12:08 PM

Holy cow!!!!! :shake:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini-Contenders-Patrick-Mahomes-Cracked-Ice-Rookie-Ticket-Autograph-25/183061199564?hash=item2a9f4c3acc:g:mHcAAOSw-RFaYlVl

Ain't no one paying that much for that card, but I do see one of the similar ones that has 10 bids and is at 630 bucks. That is fucking ridiculous.

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 02:38 PM

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 02:42 PM

Ain't no one paying that much for that card, but I do see one of the similar ones that has 10 bids and is at 630 bucks. That is ****ing ridiculous.

That card will sell from $900-1200 more than likely.

Many Mahomes autos have sold from $1000-2000 in the past month or so.

In58men

02-08-2018, 02:55 PM

Card was designed, approved and went to print before # was assigned.

Do you think it’s worth $130?

tatorhog

02-08-2018, 03:05 PM

Do you think it’s worth $130?

Roll the dice.

When RG3 was a rookie, comparable cards were bringing serious jack. Now, I think they are used as coasters.

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 03:05 PM

Do you think it’s worth $130?

At $130? It's graded a 10, so probably. An ungraded can be bought for $70-80.

But there are better Mahomes cards out there.

The link Stryker posted will sell for $900-1300 at this time. Mahomes auto's #'ed to /25 and under, are a very hot card right now.

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 03:17 PM

Roll the dice.

When RG3 was a rookie, comparable cards were bringing serious jack. Now, I think they are used as coasters.

In most cases it is best to turn and burn new products. And that is exactly what I do 90% of the time. I have sold and sent cards to every state, Canada, Europe, Asia, Central America and it amazing the amount of money people spend on it.

Otter

02-08-2018, 03:18 PM

Holy cow!!!!! :shake:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini-Contenders-Patrick-Mahomes-Cracked-Ice-Rookie-Ticket-Autograph-25/183061199564?hash=item2a9f4c3acc:g:mHcAAOSw-RFaYlVl That's kind of ridiculous. Just for reference I did a quick search on eBay for signed rookie cards which included Troy Aikman, Brett Farve and John Elway. Didn't see one for over $900 and most were in the $200-$400 dollar range if not less.

mcaj22

02-08-2018, 03:30 PM

I think in the card collecting world this is one of his highest peaks in value?

After he plays a couple years it's either going to go up or down. Usually down even if he plays well because there's only so many made, and every calendar year collectors are usually after the newest player cards on the market.

It really has become a turn and burn market model/business. But that's the same for Comics, Magic the Gathering, anything else that comes out with new lines of collectibles every year.

cosmo20002

02-08-2018, 03:31 PM

In most cases it is best to turn and burn new products. And that is exactly what I do 90% of the time. I have sold and sent cards to every state, Canada, Europe, Asia, Central America and it amazing the amount of money people spend on it.

This.
Unless someone is in that rare level of a Tom Brady or other mega-superstar, there's no way this stuff maintains any demand in a few years.

FlaChief58

02-08-2018, 03:33 PM

I have this sweet GEM 10 Tyler Bray card I just aquired. Thinking of flipping it for twice what I payed for it

cosmo20002

02-08-2018, 03:39 PM

I have this sweet GEM 10 Tyler Bray card I just aquired. Thinking of flipping it for twice what I payed for it

Common players certified as a 10 can actually be pretty valuable because there's so few of them.

FlaChief58

02-08-2018, 03:48 PM

Common players certified as a 10 can actually be pretty valuable because there's so few of them.

After a quick search, it's worth a buck. Guess I can't retire yet LMAO

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 03:49 PM

That's kind of ridiculous. Just for reference I did a quick search on eBay for signed rookie cards which included Troy Aikman, Brett Farve and John Elway. Didn't see one for over $900 and most were in the $200-$400 dollar range if not less.

This one sold for $3000 1 month ago.
http://sortsof.com/item/292195339679/2013-topps-archives-john-elway-rc-auto-5-1-1-rookie-autograph-buyback-sp-ssp

Now, take into consideration there were no rookie auto's when those players came out. They also came out in an era where card production runs were through the roof.

In58men

02-08-2018, 03:51 PM

After a quick search, it's worth a buck. Guess I can't retire yet LMAO

At the time I bought it, it was either invest in Bitcoin or Bray.

Loyal is forever my man, never forget that.

In58men

02-08-2018, 03:53 PM

This one sold for $3000 1 month ago.
http://sortsof.com/item/292195339679/2013-topps-archives-john-elway-rc-auto-5-1-1-rookie-autograph-buyback-sp-ssp

Now, take into consideration there were no rookie auto's when those players came out. They also came out in an era where card production runs were through the roof.

I can’t buy a high dollar card unless it is graded 10 by a legit company.

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 03:54 PM

This.
Unless someone is in that rare level of a Tom Brady or other mega-superstar, there's no way this stuff maintains any demand in a few years.

Tom Brady holds incredible value. HOF players that don't seem to sign much hold value long term well. Randy Moss is one of those players. Pete Rose, Nolan Ryan, Joe Montana sign so much that their values while decent, could be so much better. But Pete Rose has to sign a bunch or he doesn't eat.

FlaChief58

02-08-2018, 03:56 PM

At the time I bought it, it was either invest in Bitcoin or Bray.

Loyal is forever my man, never forget that.

I'm having so much fun right now ROFLROFLROFL

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 04:01 PM

I can’t buy a high dollar card unless it is graded 10 by a legit company.

So you wouldn't buy a DT cut auto with a piece of game worn jersey unless it was graded a 10?

Most rare cards will never grade a 10. Thicker stock, 100pt stock and above have a hard time grading out as a 10. But higher end, more valuable products are made with thicker stock. Lesser value cards tend to have a thin stock but grade out better than thicker card stocks.

PSA for Vintage grading.
Beckett for modern and auto grading.

In58men

02-08-2018, 04:03 PM

So you wouldn't buy a DT cut auto with a piece of game worn jersey unless it was graded a 10?

Most rare cards will never grade a 10. Thicker stock, 100pt stock and above have a hard time grading out as a 10. But higher end, more valuable products are made with thicker stock. Lesser value cards tend to have a thin stock but grade out better than thicker card stocks.

PSA for Vintage grading.
Beckett for modern and auto grading.

An auto with no certification? Absolutely not.

tatorhog

02-08-2018, 04:04 PM

That's kind of ridiculous. Just for reference I did a quick search on eBay for signed rookie cards which included Troy Aikman, Brett Farve and John Elway. Didn't see one for over $900 and most were in the $200-$400 dollar range if not less.

Because those rookies weren't issued with autos. So for the big money guys who pursue registry sets, the non-issued auto's don't necessarily have a home, and are generally not as in demand as others.

Now you take a true rookie of any of those guys, get it in a PSA10 holder, and the value climbs rather fast.

tatorhog

02-08-2018, 04:06 PM

In most cases it is best to turn and burn new products. And that is exactly what I do 90% of the time. I have sold and sent cards to every state, Canada, Europe, Asia, Central America and it amazing the amount of money people spend on it.

which is why I try to stick with older stuff, in as good a grade as I can afford.

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 05:00 PM

An auto with no certification? Absolutely not.

You realize that new card products now all have authenticated autos on them by the maker?

All card makers will guarantee their autos are authentic. And they are. Forgery was a big thing the hobby had to move past. For the most part it has as well.

Abba-Dabba

02-08-2018, 05:01 PM

which is why I try to stick with older stuff, in as good a grade as I can afford.

Good idea. Value is more stable.

In58men

02-10-2018, 10:34 AM

Hog's Gone Fishin

02-10-2018, 10:38 AM

Welp, it finally came in. Thanks for the insight everyone.

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It's worthless ,they ****ed up his jersey number.

Or maybe it's a misprint and worth a fortune.

Edit: Nevermind

Hog's Gone Fishin

02-10-2018, 10:45 AM

If someone could go in and buy every one made they would be worth more than all the bitcoins.

Easy 6

02-10-2018, 11:04 AM

Sweet card, much better than the one I lucked into from a random pack bought on a whim

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/aqEAAOSwlMFZN09d/s-l300.jpg

I'm more than willing to bet that Mahomes cards will soon be one of the two hottest cards around, right there with Wentz... probably got yourself a little lottery ticket there

KChiefs1

02-10-2018, 11:52 AM

Holy cow!!!!! :shake:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini-Contenders-Patrick-Mahomes-Cracked-Ice-Rookie-Ticket-Autograph-25/183061199564?hash=item2a9f4c3acc:g:mHcAAOSw-RFaYlVl

Worth every penny.

KChiefs1

02-10-2018, 11:58 AM

Welp, it finally came in. Thanks for the insight everyone. He wanted $168 but I got it for $130

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You fleeced him.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini-Origins-Patrick-Mahomes-Rookie-Booklet-Patch-Autograph-2-2-Chiefs/222814348319?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20171010182013%26meid%3Dded336 c0f1ce400c875aeb06250d7109%26pid%3D100890%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D183061199564%26itm%3D2228143483 19&_trksid=p2056116.c100890.m2460

In58men

02-10-2018, 12:01 PM

You fleeced him.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini-Origins-Patrick-Mahomes-Rookie-Booklet-Patch-Autograph-2-2-Chiefs/222814348319?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20171010182013%26meid%3Dded336 c0f1ce400c875aeb06250d7109%26pid%3D100890%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D183061199564%26itm%3D2228143483 19&_trksid=p2056116.c100890.m2460

Nice find, this makes the purchase more worth it.

lewdog

02-10-2018, 12:14 PM

Hope these things are going in a fireproof safe.

In58men

02-10-2018, 12:45 PM

Hope these things are going in a fireproof safe.

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KC2004

02-10-2018, 01:11 PM

Nice find, this makes the purchase more worth it.

What the actual print run on that card? As far a I can tell the 2/2 in the listing is the pop count on how many have been graded Gem 10 by PSA. Was just wondering how many were made because the more cards that get graded 10 by PSA the less rare they become. I'm sure you know this already and i'm just curious. Here is all I could find:

2017 Panini Origins Football Autographs

Promising one on-card autograph in every box, 2017 Panini Origins Football is filled with first-year signatures. The main Rookie Autographs set tackles 40 of the top names from the 2017 NFL Draft with on-card editions. Skewing to a darker color scheme, Origins Autograph (#/99 or less) inserts showcase silver or gold ink. Passing Stars Signature cards naturally highlight the quarterbacks, switching the orientation to horizontal.

cosmo20002

02-10-2018, 01:41 PM

Over Yonder

02-10-2018, 02:01 PM

which is why I try to stick with older stuff, in as good a grade as I can afford.

Same here. 2005 is the newest thing I have as far as loose/open cards. The majority of what I own singles wise is 80's and early 90's. I do have unopened that goes up until 2015 (Bowman's last year of printing NFL). And 99% of what I buy is PSA graded as far as singles go. But mostly, I am an unopened collector. That's what I put most of my pennies into.