*****The Dorian O'Daniel Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come...

Overview
Athletic linebackers like O'Daniel are earning high marks from NFL scouts because they need to cover the middle of the field in passing situations. ACC coaches recognized O'Daniel's talent in 2017, naming him second-team all-conference after he led the Tigers with 103 tackles, including 11.5 for loss and five sacks, as well as three pass breakups in 14 starts. One of the top outside linebacker recruits in the nation after an excellent high school career in the Washington, D.C. metro area (all-state in Maryland with 1,307 rushing yards, 18 touchdowns as senior, 16.5 tackles for loss, five sacks as junior). O'Daniel redshirted in 2013, and then got into the action regularly as a freshman, starting once and leading the team with 13 special teams tackles (had 31 total stops, sack) in 12 games played. He once again paced the team with 19 special teams stops in 2015, and was credited with 32 total tackles in 15 games as a reserve. Given a chance to play more on defense as a junior (10 starts in 15 games), O'Daniel used his quickness and tenacious nature to make 60 stops, 10 for loss, and 2.5 sacks.

What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot, he makes up for with production and consistency. He may not have the tools to become a quality full-time starter at linebacker, but his outstanding career as a special teams cover talent could be enough to earn him a roster spot and a place in the league for years to come.

Strengths

Madman on special teams
Finished career with 48 special teams tackles and most of them in kick coverage
Has a gift for playing past kick return blocks and maintaining focus on the returner
Technically sound as tackler
Sees what he hits and drives upper body into target while wrapping to finish
Possesses agility for lateral tackles against cutback runs
Hustles to contain against perimeter runs
Offers versatility
Played near the line and matched up on slot targets
Redirects routes with force
Reads and squeezes from zone
Finished 2017 with seven passes defensed including two pick-six interceptions


Weaknesses

Just one season as starter
Has the frame of a big safety, but is an average athlete in space
Is a little sluggish in his directional change and needs a runway to get accelerate to top speed
Pursuit speed is below par
Often blocked by smaller slot players against spread rushing attacks
Needs to prove he can beat blocks near the line of scrimmage on next level
Gives up separation when matched in man coverage
Plays upright and needs to do better job of anticipating routes


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[BryanBusby]

Well ok I guess

[petegz28]

The front 7 is obviously where Veach sees need and I can't disagree

[Simply Red]

seems undersized

[RealSNR]

CAN HE PLAY CORNER

[Buns]

That's what she said!

[Tribal Warfare]

Special Teams badass

[Buns]

Where's muhhhh cornerrrrr?????

[ILChief]

Seems more safety size than LB

[chiefzilla1501]

Any chance they groom him for Sorensen's role? Basically a hybrid safety/linebacker...? Hmm....

Definitely can see lots of chances in subpackages.

[petegz28]

Dude, definitely seems to bring it.....size concerns me

[old_geezer]

Have we found our new Donnie Edwards? He can jump on people's backs and ride 10-20 yards down the field.

[RunKC]

“Technically sound tackler.”

Already better than Sorenson.

[kccrow]

Meh.

Genard Avery was more productive and better at everything than this kid, and was faster and 25 pounds heavier.

I'm not impressed with taking what amounts to a special teams player in the 3rd, but whatever.

You need a CB and FS and completely ignore it. Seems illogical at best because this guy is certainly not BPA.

[SupDock]

48 career special teams tackles. I like this pick

[petegz28]

Can they convert him to Safety?

[RunKC]

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So basically Sorenson’s replacement. I think the guy is very similar type of player as Su’a Cravens. Can be used on 3rd down to help cover TE’s, RB’s and the middle of the field.

[siberian khatru]

@TerezPaylor: O'Daniel and Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller are basically best friends. Fuller is with O'Daniel right now as he interviews over the phone with the Chiefs media

[petegz28]

Can they convert him to Safety?

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So basically Sorenson’s replacement. I think the guy is very similar type of player as Su’a Cravens. Can be used on 3rd down to help cover TE’s, RB’s and the middle of the field.


Right on cue

[Halfcan]

What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot,

That is not a good way to start.

[RunKC]

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Holy shit. This guy is definitely a safety.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

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Holy shit. This guy is definitely a safety.

They announced him as a LB, so that’s what the Chiefs put down

[petegz28]

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Holy shit. This guy is definitely a safety.

I think so too. And I think he can be a good one. He seems to have above average speed and can tackle very well. Put him and Berry out there together and pick your poison.

[dlphg9]

Who cares who we have at corner if we can't rush the passer

[petegz28]

Let me be very clear, depending on how they use him, he could be our best pick of the draft going by the footage I see of him. This cat can fucking hit.

[MotherfuckerJones]

He’s replacing Sorensen?

[petegz28]

Who cares who we have at corner if we can't rush the passer

^

Been saying it all night

[Nickhead]

he's a little smaller than, but reminds me of DJ a little in those highlight vids. FWIW :D

[staylor26]

He’s replacing Sorensen?

It’s the only thing that makes sense when we already have Hitchens and Ragland.

[Halfcan]

Looks like he knows how to fucking tackle- so that is good.

[RunKC]

They announced him as a LB, so that’s what the Chiefs put down

Sorenson lines up as a LB in subpackages. I think this guy is going to be his replacement.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

We should be able to stop the run...

[cabletech94]

@TerezPaylor: O'Daniel and Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller are basically best friends. Fuller is with O'Daniel right now as he interviews over the phone with the Chiefs media

seriously, thats team chemistry right there. im intrigued.

[MotherfuckerJones]

It’s the only thing that makes sense when we already have Hitchens and Ragland.

I’m cool with it. They play a lot of sub packages, and he’ll makes some plays

[Nickhead]

It’s the only thing that makes sense when we already have Hitchens and Ragland.

im all for a safety version of derrick johnson of yesteryear :D

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Sorenson lines up as a LB in subpackages. I think this guy is going to be his replacement.

Yeah that makes sense then. Sorensen might actually be ok if he just plays safety. He was in 2016 when he did.

[Titty Meat]

No more giving up 100 yards to pedestrian RBs in the playoffs after tonight's draft

[Clyde Frog]

im all for a safety version of derrick johnson of yesteryear :D

He reminded me of a mini-DJ, too. It's the direction changes and the way he peels off blocks.

[Hammock Parties]

No more giving up 100 yards to pedestrian RBs in the playoffs after tonight's draft

This team has been getting pushed around by the Steelers and Titans for two years running.

No more.

[Nickhead]

He reminded me of a mini-DJ, too. It's the direction changes and the way he peels off blocks.

:thumb:

[Simplicity]

This kid will be a way better fit for the role Sorenson was put into last year. He looks like a very aggressive hitter.

[petegz28]

This kid will be a way better fit for the role Sorenson was put into last year. He looks like a very aggressive hitter.

And faster

[Easy 6]

@TerezPaylor: O'Daniel and Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller are basically best friends. Fuller is with O'Daniel right now as he interviews over the phone with the Chiefs media

No idea who he is, my draft guide doesnt even rank him

But if we couldnt get his brother Kyle, then one of his best friends is a potential consolation prize... maybe create some synergy back there, see if they'll push each other and hold the other accountable

Underwhelming, but just gonna have to trust Veach on this

[chiefzilla1501]

This kid will be a way better fit for the role Sorenson was put into last year. He looks like a very aggressive hitter.

Well, granted... Sorensen was put into Berry's role. He played almost every snap. I don't see Dorian doing that. I could see him doing what Sorensen did two years ago.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

VERSATILE

[RunKC]

Eric Murray and Daniel Sorenson were tire fires covering TE’s last year. Remember the game at Oakland last year? That’s why this guy was drafted.

He’s the new hybrid LB/S that Sorenson sucks at. Think Telvin Smith, Deion Jones and Su’a Cravens types of players. You need guys like this on your team now.

[KChiefs1]

Shaq Griffin may have been a better pick.

[KChiefs1]

No idea who he is, my draft guide doesnt even rank him

But if we couldnt get his brother Kyle, then one of his best friends is a potential consolation prize... maybe create some synergy back there, see if they'll push each other and hold the other accountable

Underwhelming, but just gonna have to trust Veach on this



I didn’t understand any pick tonight. I’m hoping Dorsey wasn’t the brains in the operation.

[petegz28]

Shaq Griffin would have been a better pick.

Is there anything you aren't going to cry about tonight?

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dorian O’Daniel 6’1” 223<br><br>4.61 : 40 Yard Dash<br>21 : Bench<br>32” : Vertical <br>119” : Broad<br>6.64 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.07: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Kam Chancellor 6’3” 231<br><br>4.62 : 40 Yard Dash<br>22: Bench<br>32” : Vertical<br>116” : Broad<br>7:36 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.41: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Both play in the Box 🤔 <a href="https://t.co/C6UHh3bNhm">pic.twitter.com/C6UHh3bNhm</a></p>&mdash; JKuhn (@h8rproof82) <a href="https://twitter.com/h8rproof82/status/990072503103082496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mr_Tomahawk]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dorian O’Daniel 6’1” 223<br><br>4.61 : 40 Yard Dash<br>21 : Bench<br>32” : Vertical <br>119” : Broad<br>6.64 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.07: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Kam Chancellor 6’3” 231<br><br>4.62 : 40 Yard Dash<br>22: Bench<br>32” : Vertical<br>116” : Broad<br>7:36 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.41: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Both play in the Box [emoji848] <a href="https://t.co/C6UHh3bNhm">pic.twitter.com/C6UHh3bNhm</a></p>— JKuhn (@h8rproof82) <a href="https://twitter.com/h8rproof82/status/990072503103082496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>

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Saw this....


...I’m trying not to get my hopes up.

[KChiefs1]

What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot,

That is not a good way to start.



Shaq Griffin would have been better.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

VER-SA-TILE

[CoMoChief]

Meh.

Genard Avery was more productive and better at everything than this kid, and was faster and 25 pounds heavier.

I'm not impressed with taking what amounts to a special teams player in the 3rd, but whatever.

You need a CB and FS and completely ignore it. Seems illogical at best because this guy is certainly not BPA.

Agreed...this was a very underwhelming pick

[RunKC]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zitoqFgGMy4

Dude is an energetic, versatile, violent player. My favorite pick of the night.

[petegz28]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zitoqFgGMy4

Dude is an energetic, versatile, violent player. My favorite pick of the night.

Sounds like an intelligent kid at that

[Flying High D]

@TerezPaylor: O'Daniel and Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller are basically best friends. Fuller is with O'Daniel right now as he interviews over the phone with the Chiefs media

Is that what the young kids are calling it now days?

[kccrow]

Hope the kid proves me wrong, seriously. If he can be an excellent nickel defender and special teamer, I'll be okay with.

[Buehler445]

Hope the kid proves me wrong, seriously. If he can be an excellent nickel defender and special teamer, I'll be okay with.

This is where I’m at.

Quite frankly I feel like these are better picks than crazy athletes with no skills. We will see if they are.

[wasi]

He looks like McQuay. I liked his play Week 17 against Denver starters. Both are good tacklers and hard hitters.. like Chancellor.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Some of the clips gave me DJ-ish vibes

[Buehler445]

Some of the clips gave me DJ-ish vibes

He’s not the insane athlete DJ was. DJ wasn’t human.

[Frosty]

Veach confirmed he's going to be the coverage LB in dime, so Dirty Dan's position. Plus play on all of the ST.

[wasi]

https://youtu.be/6ncD8U7oSKw

He Calls himself "war daddy" on special teams

[txhawk]

If he’s 90% of what Deion Jones is, that’s a good pick.

[Easy 6]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dorian O’Daniel 6’1” 223<br><br>4.61 : 40 Yard Dash<br>21 : Bench<br>32” : Vertical <br>119” : Broad<br>6.64 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.07: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Kam Chancellor 6’3” 231<br><br>4.62 : 40 Yard Dash<br>22: Bench<br>32” : Vertical<br>116” : Broad<br>7:36 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.41: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Both play in the Box 🤔 <a href="https://t.co/C6UHh3bNhm">pic.twitter.com/C6UHh3bNhm</a></p>&mdash; JKuhn (@h8rproof82) <a href="https://twitter.com/h8rproof82/status/990072503103082496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Thats heady stuff, would love to change my tune asap... the measurables speak for themselves

Yet another hybrid choice, the Veach template seems to be taking shape... build front to back, and stock it with multi-purpose players

[DaNewGuy]

He has a 3rd string TE name but I like this pick

[KChiefs1]

Is there anything you aren't going to cry about tonight?

The Royals.

[Dante84]

Man the more I learn, the more I like this pick.

[chiefforlife]

https://youtu.be/6ncD8U7oSKw

He Calls himself "war daddy" on special teams

Great interview, I like the guy. No more TEs running freely through our D.

[Buns]

Can I call Adopt a Chief right now yo?

The DoD

Coined

[Chris Meck]

Man, I like it. All three picks today are solid football players that are VERSATILE. It allows you to do so many different things without telegraphing your intent to the offense because you don't have to change personnel. a DE/OLB, a DE/DT on pass rush downs, and a LB/S

[Dante84]

Okay, so he clearly excels at slipping past blocks in space when he is pursuing and trying to make a tackle. You see that in the Alabama playoff tape, and his success on special teams (Chiefs #1 rated ST player in the draft - sup, Toub?) speaks to this as well.

With that in mind, I think he is going to be naaaaaaaasty on Safety blitzes... he could have a ton of sacks and if he can chop like Tamba or DT, a lot of forced fumbles as well.

[Tribal Warfare]

Thats heady stuff, would love to change my tune asap... the measurables speak for themselves

Yet another hybrid choice, the Veach template seems to be taking shape... build front to back, and stock it with multi-purpose players

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/off-los-linebacker/

124.1 SPARQ

[MotherfuckerJones]

He’s not the insane athlete DJ was. DJ wasn’t human.

That’s why I said ish. There’s multiple people saying it as well when they saw some clips

[mcaj22]

I like that this guy could replace Sorensen but I hope that now doesn't mean they will have Sorensen then replace Ron Parker as the single high safety. What a disaster that would be.

[New World Order]

At least we won't have to look at Zombo and Sorensen on the field at the same time anymore.

[kccrow]

I like that this guy could replace Sorensen but I hope that now doesn't mean they will have Sorensen then replace Ron Parker as the single high safety. What a disaster that would be.

I 100% expect Sorensen to start at FS at this point.

If the Chiefs go FS in 4, then maybe there'd be some sort of competition there but I have my doubts. I see Armani Watts, Dane Cruikshank, and Jordan Whitehead as kind of that last tier of guys that might be able to start out the gate

[New World Order]

I 100% expect Sorensen to start at FS at this point.

If the Chiefs go FS in 4, then maybe there'd be some sort of competition there but I have my doubts. I see Armani Watts, Dane Cruikshank, and Jordan Whitehead as kind of that last tier of guys that might be able to start out the gate

Surely there is a cheap veteran we can bring in on a 1-year deal.

[mcaj22]

I 100% expect Sorensen to start at FS at this point.

If the Chiefs go FS in 4, then maybe there'd be some sort of competition there but I have my doubts. I see Armani Watts, Dane Cruikshank, and Jordan Whitehead as kind of that last tier of guys that might be able to start out the gate

I will take anybody at this point; draft pick, FA, UDFA, anything that adds competition to a Sorensen/Murray warm body FS battle. Anything is better than those two.

[kysirsoze]

I didn’t understand any pick tonight. I’m hoping Dorsey wasn’t the brains in the operation.

I guess you haven't been keeping up with the Brown's draft.

[kccrow]

Surely there is a cheap veteran we can bring in on a 1-year deal.

I'd like to see Tre Boston brought in. I think his play last year is worth seeing if he can take it a step further.

[ForeverChiefs58]

I like that this guy could replace Sorensen but I hope that now doesn't mean they will have Sorensen then replace Ron Parker as the single high safety. What a disaster that would be.

Veach sees O’Daniel as an outside linebacker in dime packages and a member on all special teams. Veach said the Chiefs had O’Daniel as the top special-teams player in the draft.

“He’ll be in the linebacker room and he’ll be on the field on all passing downs,” Veach said. “We think he can develop into a (inside) linebacker.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article210047259.html#storylink=cpy

[Chargem]

This is basically bolstering the secondary, which is what we wanted. A coverage guy to play in dime. Teams are in dime so often that he can have an impact here if he's as good as some expect.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs don't draft a safety. They added Golden and maybe they like McQuay more than we know, but considering the vets available on the market it's not like one has to be drafted to improve the safety group.

[Buehler445]

That’s why I said ish. There’s multiple people saying it as well when they saw some clips

I wasn’t picking on you. It was more of a response to everyone that said it. DJ was otherworldly.

[MotherfuckerJones]

I wasn’t picking on you. It was more of a response to everyone that said it. DJ was otherworldly.

It’s all good I know. DJ was my favorite player in that draft.

[RunKC]

I 100% expect Sorensen to start at FS at this point.

If the Chiefs go FS in 4, then maybe there'd be some sort of competition there but I have my doubts. I see Armani Watts, Dane Cruikshank, and Jordan Whitehead as kind of that last tier of guys that might be able to start out the gate

Leon Mcquay.

[OKchiefs]

Just sign Vaccaro.

[O.city]

I like this pick a lot.

[Rausch]

Yet another hybrid choice, the Veach template seems to be taking shape... build front to back, and stock it with multi-purpose players

This.

He clearly didn't wait until the Senior bowl/Combine and then just target the freaks that stood out...

[Flying High D]

It’s all good I know. DJ was my favorite player in that draft.

True, Aaron Rodgers sucked a bag of dicks.

[O.city]

Thinking the idea here is he can play that nickel and dime on and not get gashed I’m the box

Helps keep berry in a safety role as well

[Molitoth]

Going on the record that I like this pick.

[Flying High D]

He did a pretty good job in the Last of the Mohicans, so he has that going for him.

[staylor26]

Leon Mcquay.

Yup.

I think they like McQuay and Redmond more than we think going forward.

[saphojunkie]

So I guess you bring in towards the line and allow Berry to play single high?

[Coochie liquor]

True, Aaron Rodgers sucked a bag of dicks.

That’s the rumor...

[Rausch]

So I guess you bring in towards the line and allow Berry to play single high?

That's cool if we have answers at slot corner/SS.

[CoMoChief]

Only the Chiefs would draft a ST warrior in the 3rd round.

[Flying High D]

Only the Chiefs would draft a ST warrior in the 3rd round.

Will be looking for o line in the bargain bin at Goodwill.

[CuTiger]

Clemson Tiger here, gained a new fan today!

You guys are going to love DOD! He is seriously one of the most sure tacklers i can remember, never worried one bit if he was one on one in space against any player WR/TE/RB. Db speed with lb mentality and over all heady player. He became a leader on our vaulted defense, college granted. However, many of his biggest games were against top competition, and made plays on a ton of now NfL guys. Never in trouble or any major injuries during his CU career. Special teams demon earlier at CU. He is as well coached coming out of college as possible under Brent Venables and held many other higher ranked LBs off the field during his last two years. DoD also covered slot recievers during his time here with little issues, hes the new prototype LB NFL teams need in pass happy league.

Dabo is qouted as saying "he is one of the best players to come through our program since he(Dabo) has been here".

Im super excited to watch yall this year with Sammy and DOD!! Hope yall have a great year!

[tmax63]

Welcome aboard and thanks for the insight. Don't let the haters run you off.

[SAUTO]

vaulted defense? ROFL
welcome to the planet

[Rausch]

Only the Chiefs would draft a ST warrior in the 3rd round.

When there's dark ass talk about doing away with the kickoff entirely...:#

[SAUTO]

Maybe this guy lets Houston rush the passer.

Lb spot corner sounds right up Suttons alley.

[CuTiger]

vaulted defense? ROFL
welcome to the planet

Ha, I did say college granted. We have been top 5 overall D since 2014 with a few top overall! This coming year we have chance to be all time college best, no joke.

Not sure if you watch much college but our D is serious, watch next year draft to see how many Clemson D players go first 2 rounds!

[NIUhuskies]

He’s out going to put “Dirty Dan” back on the bench hopefully so I love this pick already.

Fits perfect on our D and ST. Great pick


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[SAUTO]

Ha, I did say college granted. We have been top 5 overall D since 2014 with a few top overall! This coming year we have chance to be all time college best, no joke.

Not sure if you watch much college but our D is serious, watch next year draft to see how many Clemson D players go first 2 rounds!

Its vaunted, not vaulted bud...

[CuTiger]

He’s out going to put “Dirty Dan” back on the bench hopefully so I love this pick already.

Fits perfect on our D and ST. Great pick


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he has great hands, made huge interceptions at crucial times. I believe he is all time leader at CU linebacker in total pick 6’s.

If y’all have any specific questions about DOD, let me know as I watched every game he played at CU. He made many higher rated LBs sit on sideline during his time here.

[CuTiger]

Its vaunted, not vaulted bud

Ha damn, well I did go to college in the south.

[SAUTO]

Ha damn, well I did go to college in the south.

ROFL

[Flying High D]

he has great hands, made huge interceptions at crucial times. I believe he is all time leader at CU linebacker in total pick 6’s.

If y’all have any specific questions about DOD, let me know as I watched every game he played at CU. He made many higher rated LBs sit on sideline during his time here.

So he has more than one hand?

[KChiefs1]

I’d rather have Griffin but this guy is my favorite pick of the Chiefs so far.

[CuTiger]

I’d rather have Griffin but this guy is my favorite pick of the Chiefs so far.

He’s a great player too, I can dig it. He’s much faster in straight line but I think DOD is plenty quick in pads. Plus much better lateral quickness, change of direction and better ability to get off blocks from what I have seen. DOD has played against top competition consistently, played for Championship 3 years and never disappeared in any big games.

But I may be biased too!

[JoeyChuckles]

Thats heady stuff, would love to change my tune asap... the measurables speak for themselves

Yet another hybrid choice, the Veach template seems to be taking shape... build front to back, and stock it with multi-purpose players

Are you IIHURRICANEII?

[Flying High D]

Our best pick of the draft.

[Easy 6]

Our best pick of the draft.

He is definitely my early pick for 'star of the draft'

A big sucker on the backend at 6'1 225, with combine numbers on par with, or better than, Kam Chancellors... throw in his friendship with Fuller, and I foresee big things from this guy

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Dorian O Chancellorclone

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Dorian joined GMFB a few weeks back. Good interview. —> https://youtu.be/MWrR7HocVQ0

[NJChiefsFan]

Let me be very clear, depending on how they use him, he could be our best pick of the draft going by the footage I see of him. This cat can ****ing hit.

Not trying to be a dick but why are you allowed to predict positive things but when people predict negative things you call them out for thinking they know better than the experts?

I'm not even disagreeing with your assessment and it's not just you that does this but I don't understand how one is different than the other.

[Simply Red]

Clemson Tiger here, gained a new fan today!

You guys are going to love DOD! He is seriously one of the most sure tacklers i can remember, never worried one bit if he was one on one in space against any player WR/TE/RB. Db speed with lb mentality and over all heady player. He became a leader on our vaulted defense, college granted. However, many of his biggest games were against top competition, and made plays on a ton of now NfL guys. Never in trouble or any major injuries during his CU career. Special teams demon earlier at CU. He is as well coached coming out of college as possible under Brent Venables and held many other higher ranked LBs off the field during his last two years. DoD also covered slot recievers during his time here with little issues, hes the new prototype LB NFL teams need in pass happy league.

Dabo is qouted as saying "he is one of the best players to come through our program since he(Dabo) has been here".

Im super excited to watch yall this year with Sammy and DOD!! Hope yall have a great year!


Thank you and certainly stick around, you seem nice. I'm in Atlanta and one of my co-workers played LB for Clemson in 2005-2008ish for about 3 seasons under Bowden.

[KChiefs1]

I think we will be comparing him against Shaq Griffin for awhile. Should be interesting.

[Shoes]

Wanted to re-post this, want to know what other CP'ers think of the comparison:

My guess is that Dorian O'Daniel will have the most significant impact- Chiefs love to be in nickel and dime packages and Dorian's body type and skill set make him a natural fit for the hybrid linebacker position. I've seen a few individuals want to compare Dorian O'Daniel to Kam Chancellor but I haven't seen many comparisons to Deion Jones of the Atlanta Falcons, just take a look at Deion Jones draft video and also combine numbers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2H-h52L60

"Hybrid linebacker-safety"
"Undersized Will"
"Sub package dime"
"Special team standout"

Sound familiar?

Now combine/pro-day numbers:

Jones:
6'1 222 LBS
40-yard dash: 4.38 seconds (ran a 4.59 at the combine though)
20-yard short shuttle: 4.26 seconds
3-cone: 7.13 seconds
Vertical: 35 1/2 inches
Bench press: 18 reps of 225 pounds

O'Daniel:
6'1 223 LBS
40-yard dash: 4.61 seconds
20-yard short shuttle: 4.07 seconds
3-cone: 6.64 seconds
Vertical: 32.0 inches
Bench press: 21 reps of 225 pounds

Obviously Deion Jones seems to have an extra gear for the 40 yard dash but all the acceleration metrics O'Daniel had better numbers, very similar size. You watch their tape and I think O'Daniel was definitely used more in coverage (O'Daniel lined up a ton at the slot position) than Jones was but I think the comparison is an interesting one.

[O.city]

Yeah, 4.3 to 4.6 though, I'm guessing the other was quick timed.

O'Daniel is pretty athletic.

[kgrund]

Wanted to re-post this, want to know what other CP'ers think of the comparison:

My guess is that Dorian O'Daniel will have the most significant impact- Chiefs love to be in nickel and dime packages and Dorian's body type and skill set make him a natural fit for the hybrid linebacker position. I've seen a few individuals want to compare Dorian O'Daniel to Kam Chancellor but I haven't seen many comparisons to Deion Jones of the Atlanta Falcons, just take a look at Deion Jones draft video and also combine numbers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2H-h52L60

"Hybrid linebacker-safety"
"Undersized Will"
"Sub package dime"
"Special team standout"

Sound familiar?

Now combine/pro-day numbers:

Jones:
6'1 222 LBS
40-yard dash: 4.38 seconds (ran a 4.59 at the combine though)
20-yard short shuttle: 4.26 seconds
3-cone: 7.13 seconds
Vertical: 35 1/2 inches
Bench press: 18 reps of 225 pounds

O'Daniel:
6'1 223 LBS
40-yard dash: 4.61 seconds
20-yard short shuttle: 4.07 seconds
3-cone: 6.64 seconds
Vertical: 32.0 inches
Bench press: 21 reps of 225 pounds

Obviously Deion Jones seems to have an extra gear for the 40 yard dash but all the acceleration metrics O'Daniel had better numbers, very similar size. You watch their tape and I think O'Daniel was definitely used more in coverage (O'Daniel lined up a ton at the slot position) than Jones was but I think the comparison is an interesting one.

This is definitely an undervalued move in the draft by national pundits. In our sub packages, Dirty Dan was arguably the biggest liability on the field. Not only a liability on the field, but a financial liability of $5 million a year. This guy feels a huge need and could recoup $4.5 million of cap savings if we let Dirty Dan go post June 1st. The cap money could than be utilized to pick up additional help along the OL or at CB. This pick allows the team a ton of flexibility IMO.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Listened to Stick to football podcast, the douchebag Mello said he doesn’t fit KCs defense and wasn’t a good pick. JFC just listen to Brett Veach. He explained how he fits. Just a lazy thing to say if you don’t like it

[staylor26]

Listened to Stick to football podcast, the douchebag Mello said he doesn’t fit KCs defense and wasn’t a good pick. JFC just listen to Brett Veach. He explained how he fits. Just a lazy thing to say if you don’t like it

Yea it makes you look like a complete fucking idiot when you clearly have no clue but you’re pretending you do.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Yea it makes you look like a complete ****ing idiot when you clearly have no clue but you’re pretending you do.

He also doesn’t like Mahomes, so he’s clearly a fucking moron

[O.city]

Who's Mello?

[staylor26]

Who's Mello?

Carmelo Anthony?

:D

[MotherfuckerJones]

Who's Mello?

Matt Miller’s brother who does some podcasts with him. Nobody really

[Easy 6]

We'll see how he progresses in camp, but this guy is my favorite pick so far

His tweener versatility is whats going to get him on the field early and often

[bigjosh]

Clemson Tiger here, gained a new fan today!

You guys are going to love DOD! He is seriously one of the most sure tacklers i can remember, never worried one bit if he was one on one in space against any player WR/TE/RB. Db speed with lb mentality and over all heady player. He became a leader on our vaulted defense, college granted. However, many of his biggest games were against top competition, and made plays on a ton of now NfL guys. Never in trouble or any major injuries during his CU career. Special teams demon earlier at CU. He is as well coached coming out of college as possible under Brent Venables and held many other higher ranked LBs off the field during his last two years. DoD also covered slot recievers during his time here with little issues, hes the new prototype LB NFL teams need in pass happy league.

Dabo is qouted as saying "he is one of the best players to come through our program since he(Dabo) has been here".

Im super excited to watch yall this year with Sammy and DOD!! Hope yall have a great year!I just cringed when i saw tiger in someones name, advocating for a newly acquired player.

There is bad history with that here.

But welcome.

Most people seem to not be very enthused with this draft but i love it. They added talent at a bunch of lacking defensive positions and got a possible starting guard at some point in the 6th round.

[RunKC]

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platform/amp/2018/5/22/17379666/a-new-chiefs-defensive-alignment-who-what-when-where-why-how

Good article on how the Chiefs could use the middle of the field depending on offensive alignment.

Having guys like Hitchens, Berry and DOD to stop the run or play in coverage will help a lot and will disguise the defense while providing more versatility.

[CoMoChief]

Hire Gunther back

Sack the QB

Superbowl

[Buehler445]

Hire Gunther back

Sack the QB

Superbowl

May you burn in hell for typing the words. Even in jest.

[KChiefs1]

DOD to the rescue!

[ChiefGator]

May you burn in hell for typing the words. Even in jest.

Queue the nut hooks?

[Danguardace]

Dorian O’Daniel signs rookie deal with Kansas City Chiefs

The Kansas City Chiefs are down to only one rookie left to sign with news that linebacker Dorian O’Daniel had inked his first contract on Tuesday.
Dorian O’Daniel is the latest member of the Kansas City Chiefs draft class to sign his rookie deal, as news came of his agreement on Tuesday. The news means that only third round pick Derrick Nnadi, a defensive tackle out of Florida State, remains unsigned from the Chiefs class of 2018.

O’Daniel, who was also a third round pick at No. 100 overall, is a linebacker out of Clemson who profiles as a hybrid player, someone expected to serve the Chiefs in several roles on special teams and defense. He was the third player selected by the Chiefs in the first three rounds, all of whom could be classified as front seven help along with Nnadi and second round choice Breeland Speaks.

The Chiefs have not held back in their praise and hopes for O’Daniel after selecting him, but the former Tiger should know a thing or two about living up to high expectations having won a national championship during his collegiate career.


O’Daniel profiles well as a safety or extra linebacker in coverage, a player who can be assigned on tight ends or spying on the quarterback. His special teams coverage play will also come in handy, and it’s possible that he contends for reps with Daniel Sorensen, a player who has been utilized in similar situations by the Chiefs for the last few years.

Sorensen signed a four-year deal when John Dorsey was general manager a year ago for a cool $16 million. One year into the deal, the Chiefs might be looking to wiggle out of it if they can find similar results on the cheap—which O’Daniel certainly classifies as. One year of Sorensen will be more than what the Chiefs will pay O’Daniel for the duration of his first four years in the NFL.

O’Daniel had 88 tackles, 5 sacks, 2 interceptions and 2 fumble recoveries last year for Clemson.

[O.city]

I think this guy could end up being the best draft pick this year in terms of early contributions.

Cam Chancellor type player.

[Shoes]

I think this guy could end up being the best draft pick this year in terms of early contributions.

Cam Chancellor type player.

I don't necessarily agree with the comparison, I don't think O'Daniel is any where near as physical as Chancellor coming out of college. I think O'Daniel actually is a little bit of a better athlete than Kam but perhaps you are referring to their ability to play multiple positions on defense- I'd be surprised if you saw O'Daniel anywhere near the safety position though.

He's a hybrid linebacker that won't get overwhelmed in the run game (aka Sorenson last season), and is used to covering players out of the backfield and slot (used in the slot quite often at Clemson last season). I think in 3 WR sets O'Daniel is a must have on the field due to his versatility.

100% agree that he will be the best pick in our 2018 draft- could be wrong but he is who I am most excited about.

[RunKC]

I think this guy could end up being the best draft pick this year in terms of early contributions.

Cam Chancellor type player.

I like the Deion Jones comparison. I love it that he’s got a ton of slot experience bc we really need to boost coverage in the middle of the field.

I think Veach’s plan was to bolster the middle of the field. Stop the run and improve coverage to limit TE’s and YAC on crossing routes.

Force QB’s to make hard throws outside of the numbers.

[O.city]

I don't necessarily agree with the comparison, I don't think O'Daniel is any where near as physical as Chancellor coming out of college. I think O'Daniel actually is a little bit of a better athlete than Kam but perhaps you are referring to their ability to play multiple positions on defense- I'd be surprised if you saw O'Daniel anywhere near the safety position though.

He's a hybrid linebacker that won't get overwhelmed in the run game (aka Sorenson last season), and is used to covering players out of the backfield and slot (used in the slot quite often at Clemson last season). I think in 3 WR sets O'Daniel is a must have on the field due to his versatility.

100% agree that he will be the best pick in our 2018 draft- could be wrong but he is who I am most excited about.

I think he'll play that hybrid LB/S role similar to Kam.

[MahiMike]

Funny. Doesn't look Irish.

[KCrockaholic]

People are worried about our defense lacking this year, but it really won't be bad at all if guys can stay healthy. Sure Sutton is a dumbass, but the talent on the field is actually pretty dang good right now.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Why did Dorsey give Sorenson $16 million?!?

[bricks]

I have a good feeling about this guy. There are a lot of things that I saw in his videos that were missing from the Chiefs defense last season.

I think he will have an influence and I expect him to contribute immediately.

[Kiimo]

Why did Dorsey give Sorenson $16 million?!?

Probably because he drafted him.

[CoMoChief]

People are worried about our defense lacking this year, but it really won't be bad at all if guys can stay healthy. Sure Sutton is a dumbass, but the talent on the field is actually pretty dang good right now.

Dee Ford sucks, Houston has no help and is on the decline.

Depth at that CB position outside of Fuller is trash and Berry is coming back from a major inj.

Will the Chiefs stop the run?

There are multiple serious reasons why this D could suck ass this season.

[Easy 6]

Said on draft day that he would be the biggest breakout rookie, his versatility will guarantee plenty of chances to shine... he fits the new versatile look they're wanting to a T

[aturnis]

.

[RunKC]

DOD was taking first team reps last week in Sorenson’s money backer role per Matt Derrick.

[KCrockaholic]

I really think he's going to be a playmaker, and can see him being the X factor of the defense. Gonna be fun seeing how all these new faces fit into the mix on defense. I'd love to see Armani Watts steal the FS job.

[Halfcan]

I really think he's going to be a playmaker, and can see him being the X factor of the defense. Gonna be fun seeing how all these new faces fit into the mix on defense. I'd love to see Armani Watts steal the FS job.

Great post. I am excited to see how all the young talent on defense shakes things up. I think the biggest thing they fixed was the lack of physical players that can tackle. We have had one of the poorest tackling secondaries in the NFL when Berry has been out. Two of the worst offenders, Gaines and Peters are gone, so we can probably bet we will have an upgrade there.

Up the middle- Ragland and Hitchens should be very solid to finally close down the I 70 Interstate we have offered to other teams running backs the past few years.

[KCrockaholic]

Great post. I am excited to see how all the young talent on defense shakes things up. I think the biggest thing they fixed was the lack of physical players that can tackle. We have had one of the poorest tackling secondaries in the NFL when Berry has been out. Two of the worst offenders, Gaines and Peters are gone, so we can probably bet we will have an upgrade there.

Up the middle- Ragland and Hitchens should be very solid to finally close down the I 70 Interstate we have offered to other teams running backs the past few years.

Really going to need better nose tackle play. Bennie Logan was pretty worthless for us last year. So either Xavier Williams or Nnadi will need to step up.

[RunKC]

Nnandi-One of the best run stuffers in college football.
DOD-Extensive experience in the slot and athletic enough to cover TE’s
Fuller-elite slot corner
Hitchens/Ragland-very good run stuffing ILB’s with some cover ability.

The middle of the defense is going to be better.

[Simply Red]

a little of the apples to oranges thing - but I think DOD has more upside than Watts.

[Buckweath]

The Dline won't be stellar but really my only concern are the CBs.

[saphojunkie]

I don’t know if we will have a star in this draft but I am excited about every player. They just all seem to be solid, versatile, tough dudes. Something we have been really lacking on defense.

[O.city]

I don’t know if we will have a star in this draft but I am excited about every player. They just all seem to be solid, versatile, tough dudes. Something we have been really lacking on defense.

Yeah, it has been something that's seem to be a problem for the past 2 or 3 years.

They just didn't seem physical. They'd create turnovers and such, but since 15 they just haven't been overly physical.

I'm optimistic about the d. I think it surprises people.

[Beef Supreme]

I just hope we are done drafting 3-year projects on a 4-year rookie deal. Only for them not to pan out anyway.

[Titty Meat]

Scrub

[Simply Red]

Scrub

? huh? why do you say that?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Yeah, it has been something that's seem to be a problem for the past 2 or 3 years.

They just didn't seem physical. They'd create turnovers and such, but since 15 they just haven't been overly physical.

I'm optimistic about the d. I think it surprises people.

Marcus Peters is gone. We have no pussies on Defense now.

[Kiimo]

Weirdly enough the player I'm least excited about is Speaks. The secondary guys all look like steals.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

This team is fucking loaded

[tmax63]

It was obvious after last year that a lot of the defense was soft and didn't like to tackle. A finesse d is good but a bunch of mean knock your dick in the dirt defenders is better. As others have said, I want to see how this group gels. There isn't that great of a difference in talent once you get to the NFL and getting a group to play as a team is better than having 11 individuals playing.

[Chris Meck]

It was obvious after last year that a lot of the defense was soft and didn't like to tackle. A finesse d is good but a bunch of mean knock your dick in the dirt defenders is better. As others have said, I want to see how this group gels. There isn't that great of a difference in talent once you get to the NFL and getting a group to play as a team is better than having 11 individuals playing.

I agree. 'Want to' is an important ingredient.

[RunKC]

He’s starting to get on the field more and more.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That&#39;s Dorian O&#39;Daniel as the lone off ball LB on the RB. No Hitchens or Ragland on the field for this crucial 3rd down stop on a blitz out of Nascar. <a href="https://t.co/X9yAIhiL2J">https://t.co/X9yAIhiL2J</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1047180713634779139?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Since I know most will want to know, here&#39;s Dorian O&#39;Daniel&#39;s other defensive snap. It&#39;s once again out of the Chiefs Nascar package, with Kpass, Houston, and Ford rushing. This time all are in the dirt. O&#39;Daniel was in man against Booker in the flat both times. <a href="https://t.co/JxipiexASV">pic.twitter.com/JxipiexASV</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1047187092357488641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Danguardace]

He’s starting to get on the field more and more.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That&#39;s Dorian O&#39;Daniel as the lone off ball LB on the RB. No Hitchens or Ragland on the field for this crucial 3rd down stop on a blitz out of Nascar. <a href="https://t.co/X9yAIhiL2J">https://t.co/X9yAIhiL2J</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1047180713634779139?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Since I know most will want to know, here&#39;s Dorian O&#39;Daniel&#39;s other defensive snap. It&#39;s once again out of the Chiefs Nascar package, with Kpass, Houston, and Ford rushing. This time all are in the dirt. O&#39;Daniel was in man against Booker in the flat both times. <a href="https://t.co/JxipiexASV">pic.twitter.com/JxipiexASV</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1047187092357488641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


That Package seems pretty decent if O'Daniel and Watts can start to contribute will feel a lot better about this team going forwards.

[Mecca]

If some guys can step up the defense might be able to be passable for the rest of the year, after this year though this secondary needs a total gut job.

[Hoover]

Sutton is a genius - I mean all you mullet loving camero driving Chiefs fans have to love the NASCAR package, right? I'm sure most of you would prefer this to be the Chiefs base D.

[Mecca]

Why the fuck is it called that?

[O.city]

It's small and fast? I dunno.

[TLO]

Never noticed him on the field.

[CoMoChief]

Never noticed him on the field.

hopefully thats a good thing.

Still dont like the draft pick.

Other than Watts, thought the entire draft was a DV style dumpster fire.

[tooge]

Why the **** is it called that?

Rednecks love it?
Its fast?

[Shoes]

Good to see him finally getting on the field. I think DOD could be a big factor for this defense as the season progresses- he has the best skill set of any of our linebackers in regards to defending tight ends and running backs.

[O.city]

Guys get better by playing. You drafted them, put them on the field.

[The Franchise]

Guys get better by playing. You drafted them, put them on the field.

Found a stat that the Chiefs are the team with the least amount of snaps played among their rookies in the entire NFL.

[O.city]

Found a stat that the Chiefs are the team with the least amount of snaps played among their rookies in the entire NFL.

I don't doubt it.

Andy doesn't like rookies unless they're just damn good. Or Speaks.

[Mecca]

Found a stat that the Chiefs are the team with the least amount of snaps played among their rookies in the entire NFL.

Do you think that's because Sutton is old or that it goes to Andy Reid?

Also I will point blank say this if his defensive scheme is so complex it takes this long for guys to pick it up...you need a new scheme defensive guys are not suppose to be overthinking things.

[RunKC]

Guys get better by playing. You drafted them, put them on the field.

O’Daniel missing over half of camp really hurt him. He wasn’t on the field to learn the installs at practice so it’s no surprise that he is slowly getting on the field now.

[FAX]

Why the **** is it called that?

I'm surprised you don't know this, Mr. Mecca.

I think the name originated with the Giants, but the Pats used to run it quite a bit, too.

It's basically a defenses version of an All-Go. A 4-man front that replaces big fatties in the interior gaps with speedier pass rushers. Everybody lines up and goes like hell for the QB. Ergo, NASCAR. Used (obviously) on passing downs, primarily.

FAX

[Shoes]

Found a stat that the Chiefs are the team with the least amount of snaps played among their rookies in the entire NFL.

I actually don't hate this stat at the quarter mark of the season- giving the rookies more time to get acclimated to the scheme and system is fine by me. Put those guys in situations where they are comfortable should be the goal- it will be interesting how the stat looks by week 8 or 12.

[The Franchise]

Do you think that's because Sutton is old or that it goes to Andy Reid?

Also I will point blank say this if his defensive scheme is so complex it takes this long for guys to pick it up...you need a new scheme defensive guys are not suppose to be overthinking things.

I'm not sure who that's on. Something has to change though. I get not playing the rookies if your starters are doing their jobs.....but they aren't right now.

[Mecca]

I'm not sure who that's on. Something has to change though. I get not playing the rookies if your starters are doing their jobs.....but they aren't right now.

Defensive rookies are suppose to be able to play fairly early on, it's not an offensive playbook.

This teams safeties are so fucking bad could Watts be any worse? Murray played better so Ron Parker had his head up his ass.

[The Franchise]

I'd like to see Watts, O'Daniel, Niemann and Ward getting more snaps during the games.

[Mecca]

Maybe it's just me but I've had enough of Steven Nelson...dude just fucks up constantly.

[OKchiefs]

Do you think that's because Sutton is old or that it goes to Andy Reid?

Also I will point blank say this if his defensive scheme is so complex it takes this long for guys to pick it up...you need a new scheme defensive guys are not suppose to be overthinking things.

I already tried to suggest they should simplify things, and for some reason others were so simple minded that to them simplifying was the same thing as playing vanilla defense (like in the preseason).

[RunKC]

Found a stat that the Chiefs are the team with the least amount of snaps played among their rookies in the entire NFL.

Well we didn’t have a 1st rd pick, so we have one less player to garner snap counts.

FWIW here are the rookie snap counts:

Speaks-61 snaps, 20.9%
Nnandi-66 snaps, 22.6%
O’Daniel-3 snaps, 1%
Watts-39 snaps, 13.4%

[The Franchise]

Well we didn’t have a 1st rd pick, so we have one less player to garner snap counts.

FWIW here are the rookie snap counts:

Speaks-61 snaps, 20.9%
Nnandi-66 snaps, 22.6%
O’Daniel-3 snaps, 1%
Watts-39 snaps, 13.4%

I get that but I'd be interested to see where Chris Jones snap counts where 4 games into his first season compared to Speaks.

They're using Speaks completely wrong and I believe it's hurting his development.

[O.city]

Maybe it's just me but I've had enough of Steven Nelson...dude just ****s up constantly.

He's been pretty good the last couple games.

[O.city]

You know who didn't suck Monday night?

Eric Murray.

Just get Berry and Sorenson back, start playing Watts and get Parker doing things he doesn't suck at.

[TimeForWasp]

Why the **** is it called that?


they all run in a left turn circle with a pit stop at the qb.

[The Franchise]

You know who didn't suck Monday night?

Eric Murray.

Just get Berry and Sorenson back, start playing Watts and get Parker doing things he doesn't suck at.

Ummmm......he's still not a starting caliber safety in this league. He had to cover Heurmann.....not Gronk.

[Mecca]

He's been pretty good the last couple games.

That play where he couldn't shed the block and basically punched the RB in the shoulder made me roll my eyes pretty hard.

[O.city]

Ummmm......he's still not a starting caliber safety in this league. He had to cover Heurmann.....not Gronk.

Sure, but that's 2 straight pretty decent games.

I'm not asking the guy to be an all pro back there. Just be competent.

[The Franchise]

Sure, but that's 2 straight pretty decent games.

I'm not asking the guy to be an all pro back there. Just be competent.

Well he's got two big games coming up. Don't fuck those up and I'll be impressed. Good thing for him....the Jags don't have a TE that's good.

[Hydrae]

Where are all of these other safeties we have signed recently? I do not know that I have seen any of them on the field.

[Mecca]

Where are all of these other safeties we have signed recently? I do not know that I have seen any of them on the field.

You mean Ward and Lucas? Ward didn't dress till this week, Lucas is basically one of their key special teams guys.

[staylor26]

You mean Ward and Lucas? Ward didn't dress till this week, Lucas is basically one of their key special teams guys.

Ward is a corner.

[Dante84]

Watts got a sack.

[OKchiefs]

Apparently O'Daniel had 7 snaps. Hopefully he continues to get more looks and finally forces Terrence Smith to the bench (and eventually to the street).

[FAX]

I'm with you, Mr. OKchiefs.

But this happens to me all the time. I get excited about a new player with perceived potential and he turns out to ... well ... he doesn't turn out.

There were "rumblings" that he was having difficulty picking up the system. That's sad because I saw him as more of a "see ball - go get ball" type of player. Not a "where ball?" kind of guy.

Perhaps is time has not yet come.

FAX

[alpha_omega]

I keep forgetting he's on the team.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

...what a let down.

[Mecca]

If he can't play a game where a teams whole offense is short passes to backs...he was a bad draft pick, thank you Brett Veach.

Meanwhile 5th rounder Shaqueem Griffin has already started games on a better defense.

[staylor26]

If he can't play a game where a teams whole offense is short passes to backs...he was a bad draft pick, thank you Brett Veach.

Meanwhile 5th rounder Shaqueem Griffin has already started games on a better defense.

He started one game and if his PFF grade is any indicator, he wasn’t very good.

[Mecca]

Yea well he was a 5th round pick, still accomplishing more than guys here I guess.

[OKchiefs]

So O'Daniel and Niemann both got 0 snaps. We're approaching the midway point of the season. What the fuck is going on? If this abortion of a defense still can't get the rookies on the field, and Breeland Speaks is too fucking fat and useless, can Veach really feel that great about the work he's done the past year?

[smithandrew051]

So O'Daniel and Niemann both got 0 snaps. We're approaching the midway point of the season. What the **** is going on? If this abortion of a defense still can't get the rookies on the field, and Breeland Speaks is too ****ing fat and useless, can Veach really feel that great about the work he's done the past year?

To piggyback on that. If Veach doesn’t fire Sutton, then what is Veach saying about himself? He spent an entire draft on defense. If it’s the personnel and not the coordinator, then who does Veach blame for that?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Well it’s about time...

Out of all our draft picks, I was most excited with this guy’s ceiling.

[OKchiefs]

Good game for O'Daniel. It's too bad it took an injury to Terrance Smith to finally get him in the field, but Smith is a nobody and shouldn't see the field again. O'Daniel had at least one big tackle and had 4 tackles overall.

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs&#39; defensive snaps vs. Cincinnati Bengals, Week 7 <a href="https://t.co/h7EIJsfplm">pic.twitter.com/h7EIJsfplm</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1054368551874760705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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He was on the field for 42% of the snaps.

[staylor26]

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He was on the field for 42% of the snaps.

It needs to stay that way too

[O.city]

He seems pretty instinctual and can run, so yeah, just play him over Ragland all the time.

Although the ILB's actually looked competent last night so that was nice.

Man, that was just one of those Arrowhead primetime games. The other team just seems like they're in quicksand from the opening kick.

[wazu]

O’Daniel stood out yesterday. Didn’t know his number but saw somebody making decisive reads and flying to the ball so looked him up. One pass Mixon dropped, DOD would’ve blown him up in the backfield if he hadn’t. More of this guy, please.

[Skyy God]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs&#39; defensive snaps vs. Cincinnati Bengals, Week 7 <a href="https://t.co/h7EIJsfplm">pic.twitter.com/h7EIJsfplm</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1054368551874760705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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He was on the field for 42% of the snaps.

Probably cut into Ragland’s snaps, which is a great thing.

[saphojunkie]

So, draft class doesn’t suck?

Nice

[Lzen]

So, draft class doesn’t suck?

Nice

Probably not. You know a lot of CPers don't want to give rookies time to develop. I am pretty excited to see more of O'Daniel.

[carcosa]

He looked good!!!!!

[Shoes]

Been waiting for DOD to flash and finally last night we saw a glimpse of what he potentially can do. As the season progresses I hope O'Daniel keeps earning more playing time- I really do feel he is the solution for the Chiefs in regards to covering RB's out of the backfield.

[The Franchise]

Probably not. You know a lot of CPers don't want to give rookies time to develop. I am pretty excited to see more of O'Daniel.

It had nothing to do with that. It was simply people wondering why guys like O'Daniel weren't playing when the players in front of them were playing like shit.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

I've been waiting for O'Daniel to get on the field and he didn't disappoint! I thought he had a lot to offer coming out of college. Now if we can only get Watts back... along with a few others obviously.

[Zebedee DuBois]

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[Lzen]

It had nothing to do with that. It was simply people wondering why guys like O'Daniel weren't playing when the players in front of them were playing like shit.
Maybe not for you but there are several on here who automatically declare guys a bust when they are only a few games into their rookie seasons. But I agreed that DOD should have been given some playing time. I don't wish injury on any player but I am glad that the injury opened up playing time for DOD.

[staylor26]

It had nothing to do with that. It was simply people wondering why guys like O'Daniel weren't playing when the players in front of them were playing like shit.

Not you, but there were plenty of people already declaring this draft class as shit too

Also, they were already declaring Veach a shit GM.

[Skyy God]

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Mass communicatin!!

[TambaBerry]

to the people that create gifs on here, can we get some of DOD?

[siberian khatru]

to the people that create gifs on here, can we get some of DOD?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This coverage by O&#39;Daniel seems pretty meaningless and mundane... unless you&#39;ve been following the Chiefs all year and have seen what RB&#39;s have been doing to the ILB&#39;s in coverage. <a href="https://t.co/RhVO9tTi1A">pic.twitter.com/RhVO9tTi1A</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1054369572122488832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Again, this isn&#39;t flashy from O&#39;Daniel. Just recognizing where the play is going, getting there quickly, and finishing strong. But it&#39;s still really encouraging to see that kind of closing speed on the field. <a href="https://t.co/pKe0KQr74Q">pic.twitter.com/pKe0KQr74Q</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1054384150029967361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dorian O&#39;Daniel is exactly the kind of player the Chiefs defense needs. Just flies to the ball and finishes. He had multiple plays like this every game in college. <a href="https://t.co/b3K67TbSNV">pic.twitter.com/b3K67TbSNV</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1054242883405004800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[htismaqe]

Not you, but there were plenty of people already declaring this draft class as shit too

Also, they were already declaring Veach a shit GM.

I'm guilty.

It's easy to overreact when a defense is THIS bad and the rooks aren't playing. Obviously, they are ready now and that's all that really matters.

[Chiefspants]

Very, very encouraged by what we saw yesterday.

[Sassy Squatch]

Very, very encouraged by what we saw yesterday.
Speaks
Nnadi
ODaniel
Watts

Veach and his draft look better and better with each passing week.

[Tribal Warfare]

Very, very encouraged by what we saw yesterday.

Here's the question, why the fuck wasn't he starting in the 1st place?

Sutton fucked up, the assessment ( readiness) of his players he watches every day.

[Skyy God]

Speaks
Nnadi
ODaniel
Watts

Veach and his draft look better and better with each passing week.

Watts flashed before getting hurt, and Smith and McKenzie are projects that should pay off next year.

It’s looking like we got better at positions of weakness.

[RunKC]

Here's the question, why the **** wasn't he starting in the 1st place?

Sutton ****ed up, the assessment ( readiness) of his players he watches every day.

He was out almost all of camp. If you are a rookie and you aren’t on the field in camp, it kills you.

He wasn’t learning the defense by sitting in the trainers tent.

[Skyy God]

Here's the question, why the **** wasn't he starting in the 1st place?

Sutton ****ed up, the assessment ( readiness) of his players he watches every day.

O’Daniel missed some OTAs due to graduation, setting him back.

Gotta learn the scheme, brah.

[Tribal Warfare]

O’Daniel missed some OTAs due to graduation, setting him back.

Gotta learn the scheme, brah.

learn the scheme? Dude, the Chiefs defense is atrocious, morherfuckers who know the scheme are failing. Talent should've won out

[Pitt Gorilla]

learn the scheme? Dude, the Chiefs defense is atrocious, morher****ers who know the scheme are failing. Talent should've won outDefense doesn't work that way. If 1 guy gets out of position, it's (often) over.

[OKchiefs]

O'Daniel probably doesn't see the field nearly as much as he did yesterday without the Terrance Smith injury. It's a shame we have to rely on an injury to get someone on the field.

[Tribal Warfare]

Defense doesn't work that way. If 1 guy gets out of position, it's (often) over.

LOL, the defense is all time inept. It should work that way considering the situation.

[alpha_omega]

Very encouraging.

[kccrow]

He certainly showed flashes last night. I still hope this kid proves my initial thoughts on him wrong because the Chiefs desperately need a good coverage linebacker that isn't afraid to tackle in space either (looking straight at you Anthony Hitchens, backing up pussy).

[Shoes]

Here's the question, why the **** wasn't he starting in the 1st place?

Sutton ****ed up, the assessment ( readiness) of his players he watches every day.

You can't assume the Dorion O'Daniel we saw last night is the same Dorion O'Daniel we would have seen weeks 1 thru 6. A lot of CP wants to blame the Chiefs coaching staff for not playing our rookies in huge roles early on in the season but the truth is that giving these young players smaller roles and allowing them to build on it is the only way to go.

Give them a few assignments- ensure that they deliver and perform their assignments well and then build on it. The moniker of "It's not how you start, it's how you finish" absolutely applies here. Hopefully O'Daniel continues to develop and continues to earn more of the snap %.

[KCUnited]

Very encouraged by DeLorean.

[wazu]

Here's the question, why the fuck wasn't he starting in the 1st place?

Sutton fucked up, the assessment ( readiness) of his players he watches every day.

Jeez. Doesn’t Sutton get some credit for developing this kid? Gotta give credit where it’s due.

[Tribal Warfare]

Jeez. Doesn’t Sutton get some credit for developing this kid? Gotta give credit where it’s due.

If he doesn't give a proper assessment then Sutton's hurting the team and wasting time.

If it takes an injury to field the best team possible then that's borderline senility.

You guys are acting like the Chiefs have a top 15 defense.

[UK_Chief]

You can't assume the Dorion O'Daniel we saw last night is the same Dorion O'Daniel we would have seen weeks 1 thru 6. A lot of CP wants to blame the Chiefs coaching staff for not playing our rookies in huge roles early on in the season but the truth is that giving these young players smaller roles and allowing them to build on it is the only way to go.

Give them a few assignments- ensure that they deliver and perform their assignments well and then build on it. The moniker of "It's not how you start, it's how you finish" absolutely applies here. Hopefully O'Daniel continues to develop and continues to earn more of the snap %.

Stop being so goddamn sensible! This is chiefs planet

[wazu]

If he doesn't give a proper assessment then Sutton's hurting the team and wasting time.

If it takes an injury to field the best team possible then that's borderline senility.

You guys are acting like the Chiefs have a top 15 defense.

What injury? Thought he was WILB.