Who plays slot and who backs up Kelce?

[UChieffyBugger]

These are the only two areas that I wish the Chiefs had addressed In the draft. They interviewed a ton or WR's and TE's during and after the combine and yet didn't take a single one?

Ok let's look at the options on the roster

Slot

DAT
Robinson
Conley
Chesson
Dieter
Braverman
Spruce
Shippen

TE

Harris
Wright
Amaro
Charles
Firkser


So who we got guys? Reid said In a previous press conference that Dat and Conley could play In the slot but I'm not buying it tbh. I like the look of Braverman as he's built like a typical "slot" guy with his speed and elusiveness. Would love to see what Robinson could do In there though because he's got speed and he's elusive too. In the Titan's game on the drive that lead to his TD he was moving all over the field and caught balls on the left, In the middle and on the right-hand side.

As for the tight-ends. Well it's looking a little bleak, isn't it? Obviously, we're blessed to have Kelce but it's looking more and more likely that Harris is back next season unless Wright shows he can get back to his best or Amaro steps up his game and rediscovers the form that got him drafted In round two.

Other than these guys we're counting on Veach trading for someone or getting some undrafted kid who excels In camp.

[CoMoChief]

Robinson, Conley, DAT would all fill that role.

Still pissed off that KC didn't draft Christian Kirk for that role though.

O would be fuckin nasty....still can be. But JFC how would teams stop an O w/ Hill/Watkins/Kirk/Kelce/Hunt...I mean shit, pick your poison.

[a pp roach]

I agree, Robinson

[OKchiefs]

Who plays left guard?

[CoMoChief]

Who plays left guard?

I guess Ehinger would get first cracks at the job?

Still baffles me that KC drafted a DT to play OG. I mean yeah it's a project 7th rounder, but they passed on players that are better who actually played the position in college. Plus he's a Raider at heart so fuck him.

[patteeu]

Still baffles me that KC drafted a DT to play OG. I mean yeah it's a project 7th rounder, but they passed on players that are better who actually played the position in college. Plus he's a Raider at heart so fuck him.

Nonsense. His heart literally bleeds red. And by literally, I literally mean literally. :)

[patteeu]

Has DAT done anything to earn a continued roster spot? He seems expendable to me as we get others who can dual role as returners (like Tremon Smith).

Or is he someone who will flourish with the change of QB?

[O.city]

Braverman actually could be a good slot wr

Kelce is essentially your slot guy and they signed a few tight ends in free agency so maybe someone sticks

[Coogs]

I don't think it matters as much with Mahomes. He clicked with his throws to Harris in Denver. 3-4. The one INC was the deep throw late where Harris knocked it down on purpose.

Interesting stat between the two Denver games last year.

First game there were 29 targets for our "receivers". 8 went to WR's, and 21 went to TE's and backs.

Second game there were 35 targets for our "receivers". 25 went to our WR's, and 10 went to TE's and backs.

I wouldn't expect that to be the norm with Kelce and Hunt on the field with Mahomes going forward, but it does seem to say getting Watkins to pair with Hill might have been huge.

[NIUhuskies]

I think that Braverman was a lowkey great signing. I think he has a shot to be a nice slot for us. He is one to watch through camp

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[crazycoffey]

Has DAT done anything to earn a continued roster spot? He seems expendable to me as we get others who can dual role as returners (like Tremon Smith).

Or is he someone who will flourish with the change of QB?

PMII is going to elevate everyone around him; even us for just watching him, will increase our own work productivity

[NJChiefsFan]

I don't think it matters as much with Mahomes. He clicked with his throws to Harris in Denver. 3-4. The one INC was the deep throw late where Harris knocked it down on purpose.

Interesting stat between the two Denver games last year.

First game there were 29 targets for our "receivers". 8 went to WR's, and 21 went to TE's and backs.

Second game there were 35 targets for our "receivers". 25 went to our WR's, and 10 went to TE's and backs.

I wouldn't expect that to be the norm with Kelce and Hunt on the field with Mahomes going forward, but it does seem to say getting Watkins to pair with Hill might have been huge.

Harris can't catch consistently. Only so much a qb can do about that.

[O.city]

I think that Braverman was a lowkey great signing for us. I think he has a shot to be a nice slot for us. He is one to watch through camp

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I agree. I like it

[tmax63]

KC is going to have a hard time keeping the skill guys happy with their # of touches per game as is. I'm sure that KC has enough variety of receivers already on the team to create matchup problems no matter what defense they go up against.

[Rasputin]

I have higher expectations for DAT with Patrick Mahomes II throwing the ball. I think they will find good chemistry together and DAT will step it up

[Bowser]

I don't think it's absolutely necessary for us to have a single guy relegated just to the slot. If Andy does one thing right, he knows how to formation other teams to death, and that means everyone getting a turn in the slot. Hell, the best pass Alex made last year was to Kareem Hunt who was lined up in the slot for that long touchdown against the Pats in the opener last year. I think we have many, many options when it comes to our slot receiver this year.

As for backup TE, I have a feeling Amaro and Charles will be the guys. Harris has potential, but his stone hands at the worst times and below average blocking to go with his legal issues might have cost him a spot. That said, I have zero feel for who they'll keep after Kelce.

[Chargem]

If Kelce, Watkins and Hill stretch the field as much as I think they will, whoever plays in the slot will probably have so much space that they will look amazing - doesn't really matter who it actually is.

[O.city]

That’s the thing, you can get Hill in the slot some, Kelce in there, Watkins or even Conley

They don’t really line up in the same personnel over and over .

All these new toys, andy will have it figured

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't think it's absolutely necessary for us to have a single guy relegated just to the slot. If Andy does one thing right, he knows how to formation other teams to death, and that means everyone getting a turn in the slot. Hell, the best pass Alex made last year was to Kareem Hunt who was lined up in the slot for that long touchdown against the Pats in the opener last year. I think we have many, many options when it comes to our slot receiver this year.

As for backup TE, I have a feeling Amaro and Charles will be the guys. Harris has potential, but his stone hands at the worst times and below average blocking to go with his legal issues might have cost him a spot. That said, I have zero feel for who they'll keep after Kelce.

Not necessary, but boy would it be nice. I'd just like a guy who can consistently run the jet sweep, and now that the Chiefs can run a ton of all verts, it helps to have someone who can sprint into a quick short route. I thought Albert Wilson was sneaky valuable even as an average player. Kareem Hunt is a lot of things but he's not that guy. They don't need to rush into finding one. But even a cheap speed guy like Kendall Wright would have been huge. That's one that I wish hadn't gotten away. I think they'll try to force DAT into this role and I'm not crazy about it.

[O.city]

When he’s gotten the ball in space, DAT has been pretty decent

[chiefzilla1501]

When he’s gotten the ball in space, DAT has been pretty decent

He's decent in space. But I'd want something more than a glorified jet sweep decoy. Albert Wilson got a ton of open looks. He'll do for now but even a cheap guy who's very fast and is at least adequate as a receiver would do. If DAT has anything to bring as a receiver I just haven't seen it.

[O.city]

Dat can run the jets sweeps, catch a screen pass or two and run a few option routes.

There’s only so many balls to go around. You’ve got Watkins, Kelce, Hunt, Hill, Conley, ware and Robinson

Not many plays elsewhere

[UChieffyBugger]

Yeah, I'm really high on Braverman and I'm hoping the kids makes it through camp. He's so quick and elusive that I think his skillset would jell so well with the other receivers because he can take the top off a defense as well. I also hope Robinson is working on slot routes this summer too because he could be lethal as well. We'll see who is In contention In the pre-season games. A name some have slept on In Spruce!!!..I've heard some folks say he is an "ideal" slot guy so let's see.

[CoMoChief]

KC is going to have a hard time keeping the skill guys happy with their # of touches per game as is. I'm sure that KC has enough variety of receivers already on the team to create matchup problems no matter what defense they go up against.

If Mahomes is getting the ball past the goal line then I doubt anyone is really going to be upset for not getting the ball.

It's when the offense is stalling like it did last year, where you see the skills guys start to whine n bitch.

I think the general consensus across the board in the KC locker room is the guys are excited as hell about Mahomes taking over at QB. Hopefully Mahomes can live up to the hype. Played well in Denver last season, for the most part, considering he was playing w/ 2's and 3's against a good D in a tough environment. That last scoring drive was clutch.

Players won't be hanging their heads when they line up to the LOS when it's 3rd n long, essentially knowing their drive is over. If it's 3rd n 15, Mahomes finally give Chiefs a chance to convert. AS it was, checkdown punt n try again next time.

Still pissed KC didnt draft Christian Kirk....he just seems like the perfect fit for this team. Watkins,Hill,Kirk,Kelce,Hunt gives me a boner just thinking about it. Oh well.

[BigCatDaddy]

What about Antonio Gates?

[ILChief]

Jace Amaro

[RunKC]

Wow people forget about Jehu Chesson? The guy is 6’3 200 lbs and had a 6.70 3 cone. He’s going to be very difficult to cover in the middle of the field bc he has plus foot quickness/lateral agility, a tall frame and isn’t scared to go over the middle.

I like Braverman too, but I think Andy is going to constantly mix it up and switch Kelce, Hill and Watkins in the slot at different times.

That makes it extremely difficult for a defense to adapt, especially in a no huddle offense which will severely limit defensive substitutions.

[O.city]

I think they’d want chesson in the outside though, no? He’s quick enough to go inside though

[Chris Meck]

I don't think it's absolutely necessary for us to have a single guy relegated just to the slot. If Andy does one thing right, he knows how to formation other teams to death, and that means everyone getting a turn in the slot. Hell, the best pass Alex made last year was to Kareem Hunt who was lined up in the slot for that long touchdown against the Pats in the opener last year. I think we have many, many options when it comes to our slot receiver this year.

As for backup TE, I have a feeling Amaro and Charles will be the guys. Harris has potential, but his stone hands at the worst times and below average blocking to go with his legal issues might have cost him a spot. That said, I have zero feel for who they'll keep after Kelce.

I agree. Reid moves people around so much that I don't think it really matters all that much what you want to designate people as, "x", "y", or "z".

[MTG#10]

What about Antonio Gates?

This. I wouldn't mind kicking the tires, he cant be any worse than anyone else we have not named Kelce. He'd be a great vet presence in the locker room as well.

[MahiMike]

I never got why folks were wanting another TE. We've got Kelce for crying out loud. Oh and we now have a QB that can get it to our WR's guys.

[BigCatDaddy]

I never got why folks were wanting another TE. We've got Kelce for crying out loud. Oh and we now have a QB that can get it to our WR's guys.

Because you can play more than 1 at a time and occasionally injuries occur?

[BlackOp]

r.

First game there were 29 targets for our "receivers". 8 went to WR's, and 21 went to TE's and backs.

Second game there were 35 targets for our "receivers". 25 went to our WR's, and 10 went to TE's and backs.


That is an awesome stat...that really exemplifies the two Qbs.

Mahomes utilizes his WRs like a traditional QB...Smith picks his match-ups like a technician and normally opts for underneath options.

Still a telling stat that Smith went an entire season with no WR TDs...it works for how he's wired. It doesn't work in the post-season though.

Had Mahomes come in during the 2nd half of the Titans game...they would have won. Smith shut down the moment Kelce left..it threw a rift is his pre-snap reads....Mahomes looks for the open player and freelances.

[DaNewGuy]

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[Simply Red]

KC is going to have a hard time keeping the skill guys happy with their # of touches per game as is. I'm sure that KC has enough variety of receivers already on the team to create matchup problems no matter what defense they go up against.

That doesn't seem to be a concern in our new culture/atmosphere.

[Simply Red]

Braverman is 5' 10" 185 and at least half white. Bring back Kemp.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

This question has been on my mind heavily for the past day or so. Who really is going to be the primary slot guy?

Sure, you can put Hill, Watkins, even Kelce in there sometimes. But you don’t want to do that all of the time as that limits some of the potential that is there to stretch the field vertically.

I simply cannot see Chris Conley playing in the slot. We need someone who can break off those really quick twitch routes in the slot, much like we saw with Albert Wilson week 17 vs. Denver.

Not sure who that guy is right now.

[Ming the Merciless]

is it crazy to want to rotate hill in and out of the slot & #1/2 spot?

[Ming the Merciless]

I don't think it's absolutely necessary for us to have a single guy relegated just to the slot. If Andy does one thing right, he knows how to formation other teams to death, and that means everyone getting a turn in the slot.

this is what i think as well

[Simply Red]

this is what i think as well

Me too!

[KCrockaholic]

This question has been on my mind heavily for the past day or so. Who really is going to be the primary slot guy?

Sure, you can put Hill, Watkins, even Kelce in there sometimes. But you don’t want to do that all of the time as that limits some of the potential that is there to stretch the field vertically.

I simply cannot see Chris Conley playing in the slot. We need someone who can break off those really quick twitch routes in the slot, much like we saw with Albert Wilson week 17 vs. Denver.

Not sure who that guy is right now.

I'm guessing D-Rob gets a fair shot in that role.

[RunKC]

Blake Mack had a great catch in rookie minicamp today. I saw his college tape and he looks really athletic.

Interested to see how he does in camp.

[Titty Meat]

Has DAT done anything to earn a continued roster spot? He seems expendable to me as we get others who can dual role as returners (like Tremon Smith).

Or is he someone who will flourish with the change of QB?

Yes watch the game vs Pittsburgh last year

[UChieffyBugger]

It's interesting that the likes of Kemp, Dieter, Shippen and Spruce are apparently at the mini camp. But Braverman, (who has just put a Chiefs picture on his Twitter page btw) Is not there? He's been with the team since January 2nd so I wonder If he might be on the verge of getting a real deal? He's younger than both Dieter and Spruce and the same age as Shippen so I wonder why he's not there despite being on the practice squad with them?

Imo Braverman, along with Robinson, would be the best option for us to play In the slot so I hope the kid has impressed so much that he doesn't need to be at the mini camp with the other practice squad receivers.

[Chiefshrink]

There will be several wide receivers that play slot. There will not be one designated. Mix it up keep the defense guessing that’s what I suspect Andy will do.

[UChieffyBugger]

There will be several wide receivers that play slot. There will not be one designated. Mix it up keep the defense guessing that’s what I suspect Andy will do.

But there are some who will suit the role better than others. Braverman for example has played it his whole career whilst Conley has mainly played on the outside. Could anyone see the Pats playing Conley In the slot? I very much doubt it.

[JakeF]

I never got why folks were wanting another TE. We've got Kelce for crying out loud. Oh and we now have a QB that can get it to our WR's guys.
Did you already forget how the injury to Kelce destroyed us against the Titans in the playoffs?

It would really be nice if one of our back offensive linemen could double as our 3rd string blocking TE. We still need a backup TE that is a decent receiver though.

[Best22]

Did you already forget how the injury to Kelce destroyed us against the Titans in the playoffs?

It would really be nice if one of our back offensive linemen could double as our 3rd string blocking TE. We still need a backup TE that is a decent receiver though.

That's why we got Mahomes and Watkins

[Chiefshrink]

But there are some who will suit the role better than others.

I didn't say all our WR corps. Just those that can actually play it until someone steps up to own it and then again maybe Andy doesn't want anyone to own it because of the element of surprise.

[bowener]

KC is going to have a hard time keeping the skill guys happy with their # of touches per game as is. I'm sure that KC has enough variety of receivers already on the team to create matchup problems no matter what defense they go up against.

Winning can solve the sour mood of many malcontents. I believe we are about to see a new era in Chiefs history. PM2 and Andy are about to sling the rock 70 times a game once they get this shit gelled. Hunt is going to carry the ball 12 times and receive 5-7 passes a game at a minimum. It may not match the scoring record set by the Manning-led Broncos, but they will have gaudy offensive numbers across the board.

[SuperBowl4]

Antonio Gates

[RunKC]

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[Chargem]

Shippen and Spruce released, guess they aren't playing the slot

[Dunerdr]

Robinson and hill outside watkins slot and kelce at tight end then profit. Really hope amaros big ass fixes his issues and comes around to be what harris was always supposed to be.

[Line Judge]

Winning can solve the sour mood of many malcontents. I believe we are about to see a new era in Chiefs history. PM2 and Andy are about to sling the rock 70 times a game once they get this shit gelled. Hunt is going to carry the ball 12 times and receive 5-7 passes a game at a minimum. It may not match the scoring record set by the Manning-led Broncos, but they will have gaudy offensive numbers across the board.

When is our defense going to rest?