New kickoff rules

[Shag]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Following today’s vote at the <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a> Spring League Meetings, here’s everything you need to know about the new kickoff rules for the upcoming 2018 season. The rule will be reevaluated next offseason. <a href="https://t.co/YubLyMBR4g">pic.twitter.com/YubLyMBR4g</a></p>&mdash; NFL Football Operations (@NFLFootballOps) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLFootballOps/status/999053065314619393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[loochy]

Gay

[Pasta Little Brioni]

What a got damned abomination

[Nickhead]

i still say let the kickers kick the ball out of bounds. :thumb:

[RippedmyFlesh]

Because their are not enough flags on ST plays.

[kysirsoze]

I get that people are upset because it slows the play down and is an obvious attempt to make it safer, but wouldn't these changes inject some more excitement into the kickoff relative to last year? Not allowing a running start seems like it will encourage returners to bring it out more often. I definitely could be misreading it, though.

[Nickhead]

does the CFL still allow receivers a running head start on offense? does canada complain about concussions, or does the cold shrink the brain so there are fewer incidents? :D

[Chief Northman]

I see more returners getting killed in the open field.

Wedges and walls forced cover teams to keep their heads on a swivel and gave returners a chance. One could argue the spread alignments could increase gaps/seams, but who says you can’t slant/switch your coverage lane to get more bodies to the ball.

Coaches will figure ways out to exploit the rules, and players will still get hurt.

[-King-]

I get that people are upset because it slows the play down and is an obvious attempt to make it safer, but wouldn't these changes inject some more excitement into the kickoff relative to last year? Not allowing a running start seems like it will encourage returners to bring it out more often. I definitely could be misreading it, though.

This. I don't mind it. It seems safer and could lead to more exciting plays.
Posted via Mobile Device

[Jerok]

Soon this line from Adam Sandler's kicker song will be something only the good ol boys remember.

Kickoffs can be so very scary
Especially, if the returner breaks on through
And I'm the only guy on the playing field left to tackle him
I don't want to get hurt
So I pretend to tie my shoe
(2:13)

9KMcZAHXEaE

[BlackHelicopters]

The nfl should be aborted. Third trimester.

[1COOLDOG]

If 2 blockers together are considered a wedge...

Just how will the special teams coach train 10 blockers to stay well apart from each other??

[displacedinMN]

More rules, more flags, more timeouts, longer games.

[CoMoChief]

Are kickoff returns really that dangerous?

[-King-]

If 2 blockers together are considered a wedge...

Just how will the special teams coach train 10 blockers to stay well apart from each other??

You can tell a wedge from two players just happening to be around each other.
Posted via Mobile Device

[ThaVirus]

You can tell a wedge from two players just happening to be around each other.
Posted via Mobile Device

Can you tell a clean fumble forced on a QB sack from forward progress?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Can you tell a clean fumble forced on a QB sack from forward progress?

ROFL

[Marcellus]

Because their are not enough flags on ST plays.

My thoughts exactly, there will be a flag every kick off.

[WhawhaWhat]

Will they be providing tampons and panty liners for the ST players as well?

[jjchieffan]

Interesting. If Toub is really the special teams guru that he's said to be, he should be scheming up ways to get Hill freed up for big returns.

[DaFace]

I'm sure that all these rules have reasons behind them, but this is just one of thousands of examples of why the NFL rulebook is stupidly complex. Just kick the damn ball. It's not that hard.

[displacedinMN]

Can you tell a clean fumble forced on a QB sack from forward progress?

no. I can't. Jeff Triplett will clear it up for me.

[-King-]

I'm sure that all these rules have reasons behind them, but this is just one of thousands of examples of why the NFL rulebook is stupidly complex. Just kick the damn ball. It's not that hard.

But kickoffs are the most dangerous play in football. Trying to make it less dangerous is a good thing. This isn't a case of adding rules just to complicate the game or anything.
Posted via Mobile Device

[-King-]

Can you tell a clean fumble forced on a QB sack from forward progress?

Depends on if the Chiefs are playing or not.
Posted via Mobile Device

[lcarus]

The pussification of the NFL continues.

[Marcellus]

But kickoffs are the most dangerous play in football. Trying to make it less dangerous is a good thing. This isn't a case of adding rules just to complicate the game or anything.
Posted via Mobile Device

The most dangerous play in football where the average salary is in the $400,000 range is less dangerous than your teenage daughter driving to school.

[-King-]

The most dangerous play in football where the average salary is in the $400,000 range is less dangerous than your teenage daughter driving to school.

What kind of comparison is that?
Posted via Mobile Device

[banecat]

What about talks of a rule with a penalty of fifteen yards for kneeling during the anthem?

[Dayze]

Meh. Ball will still sail out of the back of the end zone with what seems like 98% regularity.

Kickoffs are extra time in the pisser and getting beer.

[sd4chiefs]

The pussification of the NFL continues.

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CNKGsUdn9XQ" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[tk13]

Terez wrote an article about this for his new job at Yahoo. Apparently Toub helped play a big part in getting this rule passed so they didn't eliminate kickoffs completely.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-coaches-rallying-avoid-death-kickoff-000448037.html

NFL coaches are rallying to avoid the death of the kickoff
Terez Paylor, Yahoo Sports

Kansas City Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub was sitting across from Troy Vincent at the NFL head coaches symposium in Orlando in March, just laughing and joking, when a friendly conversation over breakfast suddenly turned serious.

“Hey man, get ready — they’re going to take the kickoff away,” said Vincent, the NFL’s executive vice president for football ops.

It was exactly the news Toub, 55, had been dreading. The architect of the dynamite Devin Hester-led Chicago Bears special teams from several years ago, Toub has long established himself as one of the league’s very best at his craft, so the concept of losing kickoffs and kickoff returns — two of the six special teams phases he’s responsible for — was abjectly terrifying, not only to him, but to the league’s other 31 special teams coordinators, as well.

“You can’t do that, Troy,” Toub said, adamantly. “No freaking way. There’s got to be a step in between that.”

There was, it turns out, even though the concussion-conscious NFL has long been working on ways to reduce the violence of kickoffs. Statistics compiled by the league show that concussions are five times more likely to occur on those plays than others, and although those changes — which included moving the kickoff spot up 5 yards — have reduced the number of returns, they haven’t actually reduced the rate of concussions on the play, which Green Bay Packers CEO Mark Murphy recently called “by far the most dangerous” in the game.

Still, the potential abolishment of the kickoff has been met with lots of resistance among special teams coaches who fear the elimination of the play — which incorporates significant strategy and thus, allows them to shine — would also lead to a league-wide de-emphasis of the special-teamer. This would not only have an impact on how teams construct rosters, as special teams help decide backup spots at the 53-man deadline, but could also lead to a reduction of special teams jobs across the leagues. Most teams currently have a special teams coach and a special teams assistant, but would the assistant really be needed if there was 33 percent less work to do on the surface? The NFL is, more than anything else, a business, so coaches really don’t want to find out.

“I told [Chiefs coach] Andy [Reid], I might have to get ready to be a tight ends coach,” Toub said with a laugh. “You’re not just taking kickoff away — you’re taking two phases, you’re taking all those jobs. That’s a drastic thing. Nobody wants the kickoff to go away.”

So when Vincent told Toub there was something he could indeed do, he couldn’t help but say yes. In early May, Toub and approximately eight other NFL special teams coaches gathered with members of the league’s competition committee for the player safety summit at the league’s offices in New York with the goal of coming up with a proposal that would allow them to keep the play, all while making it safer.

The special teams coaches took the responsibility so seriously, Toub said, that they’d talked enough in the weeks leading up to the meeting to have an idea of what they wanted to do before they even got there. By the end of the two-day summit, lots of ideas had been discussed, but only one proposal was agreed upon because they didn’t want to risk muddying the water. The proposal proceeded to be approved, largely unscathed, by the owners only a few weeks later.

--

Rich McKay, the chairman of the NFL’s competition committee, told Yahoo Sports that he believes there are more steps to be taken and more rule changes that can be enacted before the league will give up on kickoffs. Coaches seem to agree.

“It made a lot of sense to take it in steps,” Toub said. “To do it this way, and now, if this doesn’t work, then you go to the next level.”

One idea that was tossed around, for instance, was giving the kicking team a point for kicking it through the uprights.

“We’re going to be for that — we have [Pro Bowl kicker Justin] Tucker, right?” joked Ravens head coach John Harbaugh, a former special teams coordinator.

Another idea that was discussed and tabled for later (which Toub liked) was tweaking the rules to make the play even more like a punt return, which is still a possibility down the road.

But for now, coaches like Toub seem to be content with the recently enacted rule changes, as early returns are positive after they’ve had a chance to get in the lab and practice some new approaches to the play the last few weeks of organized team activities.

“I really believe we’ve got something,” Toub said. “It looks like we’re getting what we thought we were going to get — two groups, running down the field together, not running at each other. We’re going to get more returns.”

[DaNewGuy]

I need Moar bud light commercials bitch