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T-post Tom
06-01-2018, 09:23 AM
As the offseason moves into its fifth month, we’ve been busy here at PFF discussing the value of various aspects of the defensive side of the ball. For example, a couple of months ago my colleague, George Chahrouri, and I showed that targeting (and hence covering) tight ends and slot receivers represents one of the more valuable things that an offense (defense) can do. Efficacy in coverage in general, while being the least-stable trait a player can possess on the defensive side of the ball, also doubles as the trait that moves the needle the most in terms of team success. With the increasing realization that this is a sub-package league, and that offenses have long figured out they can generate an edge throwing to receivers inside, players who can cover in the slot play an important (and unique) role in the modern defense.

While the market value in the free agent market has still yet to catch up with this notion, a predominantly slot cornerback (Minkah Fitzpatrick) was taken by the Dolphins in the front end of April’s draft. This is exciting news, since we know that the pro performance of players who play the same position in college as they do at the next level is easier to predict than that of players that change positions (e.g. from outside corner to inside corner).

In this article we provide the NFL’s top eight (veteran) slot cornerbacks heading into the 2018 season. This list will include a number of differences from Sam Monson’s article last week discussing the best overall cornerbacks in the league, for the reasons discussed above. All of these players are slated to play predominantly inside again in 2018, and will test the statistical theory that staying in the same position cluster allows us to more-easily predict future success:

Chris Harris Jr., Denver Broncos
Harris has been a PFF darling for some time and while his play (along with the play of the entire Broncos defense) took a dip in 2017, he remains the standard-bearer at the position. Even in a down season (he allowed three touchdown passes and a 108.8 rating in 37 slot targets in 2017) he had the second-most coverage snaps from the slot per reception allowed (16.3), suggesting teams are still less-likely to throw his way than they are to most other players lined up inside. While he’s not the blitzer that many of the players below are (just two pressures the last two seasons), he remains one of the best tacklers at the position, missing only one a season ago in 45 tries and earning a top 10 run-defense grade at his position.

Patrick Robinson, New Orleans Saints
After a terrific season for the Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles, Robinson returns to his initial NFL team to bolster a defense that improved from 30th in our rating system in 2016 to seventh a season ago. With Marshon Lattimore and Ken Crawley already solid players on the outside, Robinson should be able to stay inside and play the role that saw him allow only a 65.2 passer rating on 55 slot targets in Philly. That will be a substantial upgrade over Kenny Vaccaro (96.2), Vonn Bell (122.9) and P.J. Williams (98.6), who all struggled in that role during the course of the Saints’ improvement defensively in 2017.

Kendall Fuller, Kansas City Chiefs
A key piece of a late-January trade between Washington and Kansas City, Fuller emerged a season ago into one of the high-graded cornerbacks in the league independent of alignment. His efficiency (only 0.74 yards per coverage snap from the slot, second-best in the league) will be a welcome addition to the Chiefs’ defense that was last in the league in our defensive ratings in 2017. There are legitimate questions as to how well he’ll do if Kansas City asks him to play both inside and outside (he played roughly 90.0 percent of his snaps in the slot last season), but if the Chiefs continue to play sub packages at higher-than-league-wide rates, he should be in a position to succeed more often than not.

Desmond King, Los Angeles Chargers
King is a solid contributor on a Chargers defense that could be one of the league’s best in 2018. Picked in the fifth round out of Iowa in 2017, King was a player who played enough in the slot in college to project there as a pro, and did not skip a beat once it was time to translate those skills in Los Angeles. He was terrific in coverage (less than a yard per coverage snap allowed from the slot), as a blitzer (second among cornerbacks in pass-rush productivity) and in run support (third in run-stop percentage). With King and Derwin James as young, versatile players to compliment Casey Hayward on the outside, it’s not difficult to make the case that the Chargers’ secondary is the league’s upper echelon. If that projection pans out, the sky is the limit for the Chargers as a football team.

Nickell Robey-Coleman, Los Angeles Rams
A criminally-undervalued player in the free agent market last offseason, Robey-Coleman allowed only 0.80 yards per coverage snap inside for the upstart Rams in 2017. He was impressively consistent, allowing more than five completions or 65 yards into his coverage just once, and in that game he broke up three passes. Like King and Robinson above him, Robey-Coleman has the potential to be one of the best role players on a defense that could, by season’s end, be in the conversation for the league’s best unit.

Byron Jones, Dallas Cowboys
Jones is an interesting name for this list, as he has been listed as a safety on the Cowboys roster the last two seasons. However, it appears that he is changing to cornerback in Kris Richard’s new defense, and he played almost 200 snaps as slot cornerback in 2017. In those snaps, he performed terrifically, surrendering only a 51.5 passer rating into his coverage in 2017 and only a 53.1 percent completion percentage there in 2016. He’s been especially good covering tight ends, which we know offer the biggest bang for an offense’s buck in terms of Expected Points Added on targets. Hence, we like this move from a value standpoint for the Cowboys moving forward.

Mike Hilton, Pittsburgh Steelers
Despite being an undrafted player and largely unheralded going into 2017, Hilton became one of the most valuable players on a Steelers’ team that earned a first-round bye in the AFC playoffs. An example of a player who was predominantly a slot player in college, Hilton excelled at many of the intangible things a nickel player must do: generating 17 total pressures and finishing first among cornerbacks in run-stop percentage. He was no slouch in coverage, either, allowing just 53 yards into his coverage from Week 12 on.

Bryce Callahan, Chicago Bears
While Callahan missed some time in 2017 with an injury, he performed well when healthy, generating the third-most slot coverage snaps per reception allowed. While he hasn’t offered much in terms of run defense or as a blitzer (only four career pressures), he’s allowed less than an 80.0 passer rating from the slot in each of his three pro seasons, showing a consistency that is a very valuable piece on an up-and-coming Chicago defense.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-the-top-eight-slot-cornerbacks-for-2018

ModSocks
06-01-2018, 09:41 AM
Kendall Fuller is a guy with a lot to prove. He's just as much of a ? as any other ?'s on this team. He had one down year playing outside, and then one good year playing slot.

The Chiefs will ask him to play outside, where he struggled. Granted, that was a rookie season and one in which he suffered an injury.

He'll be a guy to watch and root for, but he's far from a guy we can say, "Yeah that position is locked down". Assuming as much is incredibly premature.

pugsnotdrugs19
06-01-2018, 09:43 AM
Kendall Fuller is a guy with a lot to prove. He's just as much of a ? as any other ?'s on this team. He had one down year playing outside, and then one good year playing slot.

The Chiefs will ask him to play outside, where he struggled. Granted, that was a rookie season and one in which he suffered an injury.

He'll be a guy to watch and root for, but he's far from a guy we can say, "Yeah that position is locked down". Assuming as much is incredibly premature.

They are using him in the slot for nickel packages.

ModSocks
06-01-2018, 09:46 AM
They are using him in the slot for nickel packages.

Then we have a gaping hole outside then.

pugsnotdrugs19
06-01-2018, 10:04 AM
Then we have a gaping hole outside then.

Guess they’re gonna hope for the best with Nelson and Amerson. Maybe one of the young kids like Smith or Springs steps up big.

It’s not a great group right now but maybe Veach pulls a trade off.

staylor26
06-01-2018, 10:07 AM
Did anybody read the article on the Chiefs website about Nelson?

The team and coaching staff seem to expect a breakout season from him. He struggled coming back in the middle of the season from his injury, but he got better as the year went on and had his best game in the playoffs.

RunKC
06-01-2018, 10:16 AM
Then we have a gaping hole outside then.

The plan seems to be to fix the middle of the field and force QB’s to make tough throws outside the numbers.

It’s hard for QB’s to make those throws quickly with pressure. Only QB’s like Rodgers, Mahomes, Wentz, Allen and maybe Wilson have the arm strength to whip the ball to the sideline with increased velocity.

They did this to Tom Brady last year and wrecked him.

Sofa King
06-01-2018, 10:19 AM
I wonder what Nelson's stats were and how he compared.

Titty Meat
06-01-2018, 10:24 AM
Our secondary is going to suck

rtmike
06-01-2018, 11:01 AM
Fuller was the best slot corner in the league with Washington but with us he’s “one of the high graded CBS?”

Naptown Chief
06-01-2018, 11:31 AM
Fuller was the best slot corner in the league with Washington but with us he’s “one of the high graded CBS?”

Guilty by association

Naptown Chief
06-01-2018, 11:37 AM
Our secondary is going to suck

I disagree. I think our improved line and lb core will bring more pressure. We're also going to be (finally) playing more press coverage. That's only going to help the pass rush (**** you MP).

More importantly, I also think Nelson and Amerson are both underrated. They've both shown tremendous upside and, if you'll remember, were both injured/recovering for the majority of last season. Amerson is on a prove it deal and Nelson is in a contract year. I actually expect great things from both of them. I'm not going to say we'll be top 5 D, but I seriously doubt we'll be bottom 5 either.

POND_OF_RED
06-01-2018, 01:10 PM
I disagree. I think our improved line and lb core will bring more pressure. We're also going to be (finally) playing more press coverage. That's only going to help the pass rush (**** you MP).

MP? You do mean Bob Sutton, right? Peters gave up 409 yards receiving last year. Let’s not act like he was the problem in the secondary at all. If anything, not having him in coverage will hurt the number of pressures we can get on the QB if the receiver isn’t locked down.

Pasta Little Brioni
06-01-2018, 01:23 PM
Chiefs have top 10 defensive talent. I swear some of you guys have no idea what other rosters look like

Best22
06-01-2018, 01:41 PM
Kendall Fuller is a guy with a lot to prove. He's just as much of a ? as any other ?'s on this team. He had one down year playing outside, and then one good year playing slot.

The Chiefs will ask him to play outside, where he struggled. Granted, that was a rookie season and one in which he suffered an injury.

He'll be a guy to watch and root for, but he's far from a guy we can say, "Yeah that position is locked down". Assuming as much is incredibly premature.

He's proven much more than Speaks or O'Daniel

Let's not pretend like the #1 rated slot corner from 2017 is just some unknown scrub.

Fuller was rated as a higher cornerback than Peters in 2017, a man who many here worship

TomBarndtsTwin
06-01-2018, 01:58 PM
I like the idea of locking down the middle of the field with Fuller and our LB’s and safeties and forcing QB’s to beat us on the outside against Amerson and Nelson. Also gives our pass rush more opportunity, which we all know is ultimately going to determine the success of the defense.

Hopefully the guys Veach drafted, plus a fully healthy Justin Houston, Chris Jones and motivated Dee Ford (contract year) will be enough to significantly increase our pressure this year.

Coach
06-01-2018, 09:04 PM
Did anybody read the article on the Chiefs website about Nelson?

The team and coaching staff seem to expect a breakout season from him. He struggled coming back in the middle of the season from his injury, but he got better as the year went on and had his best game in the playoffs.

I wouldn't be surprised if he does have a breakout season. He was coming back from injury with no training at all/off-season training, since I imagine he had to spent a lot of his time/effort on rehab, right in the middle of the season.

Now that he had an actual off-season training, with no limitations, I would expect his projectile to trend upwards.

WhiteWhale
06-01-2018, 11:59 PM
Kendall Fuller is a guy with a lot to prove. He's just as much of a ? as any other ?'s on this team. He had one down year playing outside, and then one good year playing slot.

The Chiefs will ask him to play outside, where he struggled. Granted, that was a rookie season and one in which he suffered an injury.

He'll be a guy to watch and root for, but he's far from a guy we can say, "Yeah that position is locked down". Assuming as much is incredibly premature.

Usually playing outside is EASIER than playing inside in terms of dealing with route combinations.

The issue comes from the talent you have to deal with on the outside. How will he match up?

WhiteWhale
06-02-2018, 12:02 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he does have a breakout season. He was coming back from injury with no training at all/off-season training, since I imagine he had to spent a lot of his time/effort on rehab, right in the middle of the season.

Now that he had an actual off-season training, with no limitations, I would expect his projectile to trend upwards.

I like Nelson. He's good in M2M. He's not a turnover machine or anything, but even when passes are completed on him he's RIGHT THERE in good position.

He keeps windows small. His injury hurt KC last season.

Couch-Potato
06-02-2018, 09:27 AM
Can we trade for an outside CB?

OKchiefs
06-02-2018, 09:40 AM
The two position groups I worry about the most are CB and OL.

Naptown Chief
06-02-2018, 09:49 AM
Our CBs are fine. I'll continue to say it..

Both Amerson and Nelson were injured, playing injured, and then trying to recover from said injuries. Both will have an entire off-season to continue to heal. One is on a prove it deal while the other is in a contract year. Clearly Andy and Veach see something in them, perhaps we should too? EB was gushing over Nelson the other day.

Naptown Chief
06-02-2018, 09:52 AM
I'd take this D, regardless of age/inexperience, over a lot of our D's from years past. The youth, the speed, the hybrid players... I honestly think they will impress and excite.

If not you can label me CP's dumbest mofo on an indefinite basis.

ChiefAshhole1056
06-02-2018, 10:14 AM
I’m still very concerned with the outside CBs, I’m really hoping KC takes a chance on Adonis Alexander in the supplemental draft. I’ve seen some say he’s worth a 2nd rounder but I’d be very happy with a 3rd.

BlackOp
06-02-2018, 10:29 AM
Amerson was a 2nd round pick...Obviously Veach must have liked him in college. He had good stats/measurables...6’1″ 4.3 40 18 int in college.

S. Smith did pretty well in Sutton's system...then sucked bad in Oakland.

He's the one major question mark going in to the season...that and Berry's achilles. I hope he can be at least average.

Nelson has graded out really high in PPF...I think KC is alright there if he stays healthy.

pugsnotdrugs19
06-02-2018, 11:58 AM
Nothing wrong with using Fuller in the slot where he excelled at an elite level last year. There’s a big need for guys like that in today’s league. VERY difficult position to play.

Just think—if we run into New England come January, we’ll at least have a guy who might be able to stick to Edelman. Fuller’s skill set and build screams slot CB, and that’s a strong asset to have.

Pitt Gorilla
06-02-2018, 01:11 PM
Can we trade for an outside CB?

We don’t have that kind of capital. The Rams did, but not us.

OKchiefs
06-02-2018, 01:21 PM
We don’t have that kind of capital. The Rams did, but not us.

Well, we're talking 2019 draft picks now, so we do have the capital if we wanted to. Not saying we should, but we have the picks.

There are talks still that Philly might look to trade Ronald Darby.

But I'm pretty sure we'll stand Pat. Next year is the year to load up if Mahomes shows he can lead us deep into the playoffs.

pugsnotdrugs19
06-02-2018, 01:27 PM
We’ve got the extra 2nd rounder in 2019 to trade if need be.

I see 2019/2020 being big opportunities for KC to contend.

Otter
06-02-2018, 01:45 PM
Then we have a gaping hole outside then. That's what she said?

Tombstone RJ
06-02-2018, 02:23 PM
This article assumes KC uses Filler right

Buckweath
06-02-2018, 02:45 PM
The CB group is not good enough for me but let's see training camp. At this point I would not trade a high pick next year but something like a 5th round pick for a CB who could give the team solid play for at least a year could be a good move. I used to think Veach would trade that Rams' 2nd round pick but I really think he won't at this point.

I am not really concerned with the Oline but the CB group is not up to par IMO and the Dline is questionable.

Rain Man
06-02-2018, 02:50 PM
Do we have any feel yet for who's going to be the LCB, RCB, and slot as we start training camp? I presume that Nelson will stay on the right. If Fuller is the starter, do we think that he'll start on the left and then move to the slot when necessary, putting Amerson on the left? Or something else?

Warrick
06-02-2018, 03:34 PM
Do we have any feel yet for who's going to be the LCB, RCB, and slot as we start training camp? I presume that Nelson will stay on the right. If Fuller is the starter, do we think that he'll start on the left and then move to the slot when necessary, putting Amerson on the left? Or something else?

Let’s go back to something Al Harris, the Chiefs secondary coach coach, said in his brief press remarks this week. When asked by a reporter whether the cornerbacks were going to rotate at different spots “to see where they mesh”, Harris had a definite response.

“No, right now, as our package sits, you put the guys on the outside who are outside guys and inside guys on the inside. That is how we handle it as a defensive staff. Right now, Dave and Steve are my outside pieces and Fuller will go inside.”

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/06/02/kendall-fuller-play-inside-kansas-city-chiefs-secondary/amp/

Things might change during camp, personally I hope the Chiefs find a legitimate starting outside cb soon. I still see Nelson as a better slot cb than he is on the outside, but he did a good job apparently during the playoffs.

OKchiefs
06-02-2018, 03:45 PM
This article assumes KC uses Filler right

STFU bitch

CoMoChief
06-02-2018, 05:13 PM
Our secondary is going to suck

this

mcaj22
06-02-2018, 05:31 PM
I like the safety group but our CBs are going to be so bad. They should consider taking that kid from VA Tech in the supplemental draft