How many points a game do we average?

[BigRedChief]

Way too early. But, it’s the off season. Go on the record.

[KCrockaholic]

29

[Titty Meat]

69

[loochy]

28


but here's the thing...

...we'll allow 35

[Ming the Merciless]

i went 'safe' with 15-24 (thinking we will score about 23-24 per game)


but 25 would be amazing


if we score 25+ a game we might go deep in the playoffs...well...unless our Defense plays like our defense

[stumppy]

27

[Rasputin]

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[Mecca]

this team should be 25+ unless Mahomes just isn't good and I don't see that happening.

[lawrenceRaider]

26

[Jewish Rabbi]

Why did you stop at a number as low as 35?

[Buehler445]

32.

There are going to be a couple off games with picks and what not but I see us hanging a 50 burger on some fools *COUGH* Faiders *COUGH*

[BigRedChief]

Why did you stop at a number as low as 35?ROFL

actually I was listening to the Arrowhead Pride podcast and one of the brothers who founded it said 35 points a game and that’s conservative.

[Mecca]

ROFL

actually I was listening to the Arrowhead Pride podcast and one of the brothers who founded it said 35 points a game and that’s conservative.

Yea a friend of mine listens to that and every time they say that stuff he's like "those guys are nuts" they I get a 20 minute phonecall about how everyone needs to pump the breaks on Mahomes and this hype is stupid for a guy who hasn't played etc etc.

Oh and I'm pretty sure he thinks Mahomes is going to throw 30 picks and I get phrases like "I'll believe he's good when I see it"

[Buckweath]

It is certainly possible but I won't lie, anything short of 25 would be a disappointment. It would be regression.

If Mahomes is anything good this offense can be a bully. Literally all offensive skills position players and even the whole Oline is right entering their prime or right in their prime.

[bevischief]

30

[DJJasonp]

The Jameis Winston-led Buccaneers, in 2015 (his rookie year), averaged 21.4 points per game.

That's with Lovie Smith and Dirk Koetter helming the ship.

So with Reid, and serious playmakers at RB/WR1/WR2/TE.......we should easily top that.

So I'll say: 27

[Halfcan]

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

Last years ranking.

Chiefs in at #7 at 25.6 ppg Eagles #1 at 29.0 ppg

This includes the Long mid-season slump by Alex in which we couldn't string together a complete game offensively.

With a better defense and QB- I think we add at least 2 FG's a game on that average.

I am predicting 31.6 PPG in 2018

[Buckweath]

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

Last years ranking.

Chiefs in at #7 at 25.6 ppg Eagles #1 at 29.0 ppg

This includes the Long mid-season slump by Alex in which we couldn't string together a complete game offensively.

With a better defense and QB- I think we add at least 2 FG's a game on that average.

I am predicting 31.6 PPG in 2018
Better defense usually means less offensive points. Terrible defense means shootouts.

See the last SB for example.

[SuperBowl4]

It will be like the Jim Kelly Buffalo Bills days. But the CHIEFS will win four Super Bowls in a row!

[Buehler445]

Yea a friend of mine listens to that and every time they say that stuff he's like "those guys are nuts" they I get a 20 minute phonecall about how everyone needs to pump the breaks on Mahomes and this hype is stupid for a guy who hasn't played etc etc.

Oh and I'm pretty sure he thinks Mahomes is going to throw 30 picks and I get phrases like "I'll believe he's good when I see it"

I was pretty much there but then the Donk game happened. Man, it was easy to board the hype train on Mahomes.

I’m having to mentally throttle myself on him and remind myself that he is going to get tricked and throw some picks as well as he is going to take some hits trying to make a play but damn it there were better than 10 plays in that Donk game Smith would have quit on and probably killed the drive. That is huge.

[Mecca]

I was pretty much there but then the Donk game happened. Man, it was easy to board the hype train on Mahomes.

I’m having to mentally throttle myself on him and remind myself that he is going to get tricked and throw some picks as well as he is going to take some hits trying to make a play but damn it there were better than 10 plays in that Donk game Smith would have quit on and probably killed the drive. That is huge.

That wasn't enough for him all I hear about is the bad INT he threw and the other one he should have thrown when he "did that stupid spin shit that loses games"

[ThaVirus]

I'd say somewhere around 24 PPG.

[Coogs]

That wasn't enough for him all I hear about is the bad INT he threw and the other one he should have thrown when he "did that stupid spin shit that loses games"

I heard Keitzman spouting something like this a week or so ago. Said the pass to Harris should have been intercepted, and would have sealed the game for the Broncos.:spock:

Even if it was intercepted, the score was tied.

Only reason the score was tied was Bray was allowed to play.

[Spott]

∞ + 1

[ClevelandBronco]

There are numbers missing in the poll answers. I'll guess y'all end up at 24 and change.

[Buehler445]

That wasn't enough for him all I hear about is the bad INT he threw and the other one he should have thrown when he "did that stupid spin shit that loses games"

Does he even watch football?

I'm not saying Mahomes is going to be the messiah, but I don't know how anyone can watch that game, and not say, "Alex would have quit on that one. Oh look. That one too! Yay more giving up on plays". It was surreal man.

There is some short looks that Smith is going to have been better at, some throws where bad feet are going to screw up Mahomes, but I'll trade that every day of the week and 100 times on Sunday for the QB that showed up in the Donk game.

[BleedingRed]

33

[Halfcan]

Better defense usually means less offensive points. Terrible defense means shootouts.

See the last SB for example.

The Chiefs beefed up this team to stop the run. Hopefully, we see more turnovers and 3rd down stops. We were absolutely pathetic in 3rd and long last year. More defensive stands mean More chances for the offense to score.


Andy better keep his foot on the gas the entire game- and not go conservative every time we get a 10 point lead. You would think he learned his lesson after the Playoff losses to the Titans and Colts.

[Halfcan]

I'd say somewhere around 24 PPG.

So worse than last year? :hmmm:

[BigRedChief]

There are numbers missing in the poll answers. I'll guess y'all end up at 24 and change.so you think with the addition of Watkins and Mahomes replacing Smith, the offense will be worse?

[jjchieffan]

For those of you that picked 24 or less, that's where KnowShit picked. Are you sure that you want to be in the same group of thinking as that nitwit?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Does he even watch football?

I'm not saying Mahomes is going to be the messiah, but I don't know how anyone can watch that game, and not say, "Alex would have quit on that one. Oh look. That one too! Yay more giving up on plays". It was surreal man.

There is some short looks that Smith is going to have been better at, some throws where bad feet are going to screw up Mahomes, but I'll trade that every day of the week and 100 times on Sunday for the QB that showed up in the Donk game.

I was watching a replay of the Jets game yesterday and I was thinking the same thing. There were a ton of plays that smith just gave up on and I was thinking that if Mahomes was in there he would have turned it into a huge gain.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Here's the thing..... if Watkins,hill, Kelce and Hunt are healthy for a full year we score 30 per game. But chances are one of them goes down.

On the other hand I think mahomes is a lot like Brady in that no matter who is receiving he will make them a star. He has repoir with Robinson and other 2nd string receivers.

[ThaVirus]

So worse than last year? :hmmm:

I wouldn't be surprised one bit

[FlaChief58]

Way too early. But, it’s the off season. Go on the record.

Pole fail, no eleventy-billion option.

31

[Naptown Chief]

31.6....... Per half

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Better defense usually means less offensive points. Terrible defense means shootouts.

See the last SB for example.

Eh? Better defense means you get the ball back sooner. As opposed to the 85 yard bend (and sometimes) break defense we've seen for 2 or 3 years.

[Jewish Rabbi]

64 buttfucking morons think we’re averaging less than 35 per game. Classic Cheifsplanet.

[jaa1025]

64 butt****ing morons think we’re averaging less than 35 per game. Classic Cheifsplanet.

If this Chiefs team scores 35+PPG then they would be among the best in NFL history.

Ranking at or above 35 ppg.
1) 2013 Denver Broncos 37.9 PPG
2) 2007 New England Patriots 36.8 PPG
3) 2011 Green Bay Packers 35.0 PPG

Notables
5) 1998 Minnesota Vikings 34.8 PPG
7) 2000 St. Louis Rams 33.8 PPG
9) 1999 St. Louis Rams 32.9 PPG
10) 2004 Indianapolis Colts 32.6 PPG
15) 2001 St. Louis Rams 31.4 PPG
23) 2003 Kansas City Chiefs 30.3 PPG
24) 2004 Kansas City Chiefs 30.2 PPG

Chiefs under Reid
2017 25.94 PPG
2016 24.31 PPG
2015 25.43 PPG
2014 22.06 PPG
2013 26.87 PPG (Charles 19 total TD's helped)

Romeo Crennel...just for fun
2012 13.31 PPG...holy crap so bad.


I'm sorry, even with the talent amassed on this offense, I highly doubt they will go down in history as the 4th team to average 35.0 PPG in NFL history. I think they will be among the best in the NFL this year and may end up the best at 28-29 PPG. They probably need to score 25+ PPG to go to the playoffs. Of the top 10 scoring teams last year, only Baltimore (24.7 ppg) and Detroit (25.6 ppg) didn't make it.

[HonestChieffan]

Fewer than we will need.

[Nickhead]

Fewer than we will need.

i think the defense has no where to go but up, and the weak links in the chain are gone.

i think you are going to see a defense that plays as a team, and will be stoked to provide 40 yard line field position for the offense.

i think overall the defense will be better, but some areas may suffer thru the year.

[Jewish Rabbi]

If this Chiefs team scores 35+PPG then they would be among the best in NFL history.

Ranking at or above 35 ppg.
1) 2013 Denver Broncos 37.9 PPG
2) 2007 New England Patriots 36.8 PPG
3) 2011 Green Bay Packers 35.0 PPG

Notables
5) 1998 Minnesota Vikings 34.8 PPG
7) 2000 St. Louis Rams 33.8 PPG
9) 1999 St. Louis Rams 32.9 PPG
10) 2004 Indianapolis Colts 32.6 PPG
15) 2001 St. Louis Rams 31.4 PPG
23) 2003 Kansas City Chiefs 30.3 PPG
24) 2004 Kansas City Chiefs 30.2 PPG

Chiefs under Reid
2017 25.94 PPG
2016 24.31 PPG
2015 25.43 PPG
2014 22.06 PPG
2013 26.87 PPG (Charles 19 total TD's helped)

Romeo Crennel...just for fun
2012 13.31 PPG...holy crap so bad.


I'm sorry, even with the talent amassed on this offense, I highly doubt they will go down in history as the 4th team to average 35.0 PPG in NFL history. I think they will be among the best in the NFL this year and may end up the best at 28-29 PPG. They probably need to score 25+ PPG to go to the playoffs. Of the top 10 scoring teams last year, only Baltimore (24.7 ppg) and Detroit (25.6 ppg) didn't make it.

Two words - Pat. Mahomes.

[Chiefs Moon]

28, with caveats. Reid is so damn conservative with a lead. The schedule is brutal.

Also, who plays center? If Morse is healthy (doubtful), the Chiefs should reach 28. If it's Cam Erving, I wouldn't be surprised if it's under 28 because Mahomes gets hurt.

[ChiTown]

Two words - Pat. Mahomes.

The let down should be epic on this place. Gonna be a fun season on CP

[ThaVirus]

i think the defense has no where to go but up...

That's not a good thing

[Halfcan]

I wouldn't be surprised one bit

I would be shocked if the offense is worse than last year.

2018
Better defense.
Better QB
Healthy O line
Upgraded Receiving Corp.

Something tragic would have to happen.

[Jewish Rabbi]

The let down should be epic on this place. Gonna be a fun season on CP

Yup. Lotta people gonna kill themselves if he throws fewer than 50 TDS.

[Spott]

If this Chiefs team scores 35+PPG then they would be among the best in NFL history.

Ranking at or above 35 ppg.
1) 2013 Denver Broncos 37.9 PPG
2) 2007 New England Patriots 36.8 PPG
3) 2011 Green Bay Packers 35.0 PPG

Notables
5) 1998 Minnesota Vikings 34.8 PPG
7) 2000 St. Louis Rams 33.8 PPG
9) 1999 St. Louis Rams 32.9 PPG
10) 2004 Indianapolis Colts 32.6 PPG
15) 2001 St. Louis Rams 31.4 PPG
23) 2003 Kansas City Chiefs 30.3 PPG
24) 2004 Kansas City Chiefs 30.2 PPG

Chiefs under Reid
2017 25.94 PPG
2016 24.31 PPG
2015 25.43 PPG
2014 22.06 PPG
2013 26.87 PPG (Charles 19 total TD's helped)

Romeo Crennel...just for fun
2012 13.31 PPG...holy crap so bad.


I'm sorry, even with the talent amassed on this offense, I highly doubt they will go down in history as the 4th team to average 35.0 PPG in NFL history. I think they will be among the best in the NFL this year and may end up the best at 28-29 PPG. They probably need to score 25+ PPG to go to the playoffs. Of the top 10 scoring teams last year, only Baltimore (24.7 ppg) and Detroit (25.6 ppg) didn't make it.

Only 1 of the top 12 teams in scoring in NFL history went on to win the Super Bowl (1999 Rams). We’d probably be better off scoring a little less and not trying to recreate the 2002-2004 Chiefs.

[ThaVirus]

I would be shocked if the offense is worse than last year.

2018
Better defense.
Better QB
Healthy O line
Upgraded Receiving Corp.

Something tragic would have to happen.

Well there's the issue. You're projecting everything to be better and nothing to be worse. That's just not how these things generally shake out.

Right now we've got a QB with more potential but it remains to be seen whether he's actually better. The defense appears to be about the same at best, drastically worse at worst.. Injuries will happen- they do every year.

[KChiefs1]

The 2003 & 2004 Chiefs averaged 30ppg so I’m going with 31ppg since I think this offense will be better.

500pts is my prediction.

[WhiteWhale]

26

We could be a 30+ PPG offense, but not with Andy Reid. He takes his foot off the throttle way too often, and he's been doing it his entire career.

[WhiteWhale]

Eh? Better defense means you get the ball back sooner. As opposed to the 85 yard bend (and sometimes) break defense we've seen for 2 or 3 years.

Teams take more chances out of necessity when the defense isn't playing well.

If your defense is holding teams to 16 points a game and the offense can score, you're going to finish a lot of games with only a few passes in the 4th quarter as you grind the clock to a finish.

[Buckweath]

Well there's the issue. You're projecting everything to be better and nothing to be worse. That's just not how these things generally shake out.

Right now we've got a QB with more potential but it remains to be seen whether he's actually better. The defense appears to be about the same at best, drastically worse at worst.. Injuries will happen- they do every year.

What?? I have absolutely no doubt that the defense will be better even if I don't think the corners are good enough. The offense could be worse, simply because of Mahomes and possible injuries on the Oline.

[ThaVirus]

What?? I have absolutely no doubt that the defense will be better even if I don't think the corners are good enough.

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Anybody can just say shit, bro.

[SuperBowl4]

one more point than the opponent

[O.city]

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Anybody can just say shit, bro.

I actually agree with him.

I don't know how anyone can look at the personnel and think the D won't be better.

[Rasputin]

I actually agree with him.

I don't know how anyone can look at the personnel and think the D won't be better.

Getting a healthy Eric Berry probably biggest impact he is the general on the field and he is going be hungry to put people in the dirt and take the ball to the house on interceptions. That Denver game is going be very enticing to go.

[O.city]

If Berry is healthy and back to himself, maybe.

It's the other additions that I'm looking at. Having Ragland and Hitchens in the middle, with a revamped front 7 around them will be better than last year.

[loochy]

I actually agree with him.

I don't know how anyone can look at the personnel and think the D won't be better.

Remember who is coordinating the D

Maybe we use Fuller in the pass rush and drop Houston into coverage?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

28 and allow 21

[Strongside]

69

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgokoF_W0AAE_IR.jpg:large

[ThaVirus]

I actually agree with him.

I don't know how anyone can look at the personnel and think the D won't be better.

Sounds good, but like I said, you just never know with these things. When projecting you just assume all of last year's strengths stay strengths, moving pieces perform at optimum ability, and any weaknesses addressed were taken care of.. things don't generally work out so cleanly.

On paper, were looking at, what, potentially 7-8 new defensive starters/major contributors? Sorenson will, again, be a full time starter *shudder* DL is weak. CB is probably weaker. Will Ford contribute? How effective will Berry be at 30 years old being held together by duct tape?

[BossChief]

Fuller Peters
Amerson Mitchell
Nelson Acker
Berry Murray
Pick em Parker
Ragland Ragland
Hitchens DJ
Ford/Speaks/Passagnon Zombo/Hali
Houston Houston
Jones Jones
Williams/Nhadi Logan
Bailey Bailey

The team could stand to add another top flight corner, but it’s improved across the board.

[BigRedChief]

28 and allow 21cool, 16-0!