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T-post Tom
07-19-2018, 12:51 AM
Tennessee Titans defensive end Jurrell Casey says he plans to protest social injustice on the field during the national anthem before games this season and "take my fine."

"I'm going to take a fine this year, why not?" Casey told CNN at an NFL promotional event in London. "I'm going to protest during the flag. That's what I'm going to say now.

"... It is what it is, I ain't going to let them stop me from doing what I want to do. If they want to have these battles between players and organizations, this is the way it's going to be."

The Titans did not comment on Casey's remarks.

The NFL approved a new national anthem policy in May requiring players and league personnel on the sideline to stand. Players and personnel also have the option to remain in the locker room if they choose not to stand during the anthem.

Under the change, individual clubs have the power to set their own policies to ensure the anthem is being respected during any on-field action. If a player chooses to protest on the sideline the NFL will fine the team. Players could also be fined by their teams, per the policy.

Colin Kaepernick's decision to protest social inequality against minorities by taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem before a preseason game in 2016 spurred other players to protest. President Donald Trump has sharply criticized the actions of protesting players and called on team owners in September to "fire" them. The following week, players and team owners across the league took part in displays of solidarity during the national anthem. Some players continued their on-field protests for the rest of the season.

Casey told CNN his protests in 2018 will be a "continuation" of what he did last season when he raised a fist during the playing of the anthem.

"Around the NFL, guys are definitely not happy about it," Casey said about the policy. "I feel it's not right, I don't think it was a good decision for the NFL to come up with that ruling. But they have their reasons for what they've done."

Casey said he was prepared to face "blowback" from people who disagree with his decision.

"It is what it is, at the end of the day, I don't pay no mind to it. I'm going to do what I do that's going to bring light to my community. ... I will continue to use my platform to keep on speaking up."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940855/article/jurrell-casey-plans-to-protest-on-field-during-anthem

Flying High D
07-19-2018, 01:05 AM
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ILChief
07-19-2018, 05:43 AM
I'm so over this from all sides

Hog's Gone Fishin
07-19-2018, 06:16 AM
They should just go ahead and cut his ass.

BigCatDaddy
07-19-2018, 06:25 AM
They should just go ahead and cut his ass.

This. The only way to clean up this mess is send these guys packing to the cfl.

Why Not?
07-19-2018, 06:26 AM
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This

WhawhaWhat
07-19-2018, 06:29 AM
This

It's been that way for a long, long time.

MarkDavis'Haircut
07-19-2018, 06:36 AM
Who?

Mecca
07-19-2018, 06:37 AM
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Anyone with a public profile is going to be taken as being somewhat important. That's just how life works.

SuperBowl4
07-19-2018, 06:37 AM
What does Pappa John think about this?

Mecca
07-19-2018, 06:38 AM
Who?

If in reality you don't know who he is, then you don't pay much attention.

Skyy God
07-19-2018, 06:39 AM
What does Pappa John think about this?

Probably has something to do with Casey being dragged by a truck back in the day.

Red Dawg
07-19-2018, 06:40 AM
Football players are so stupid. Really stupid. Always in the news for some bullshit.

MarkDavis'Haircut
07-19-2018, 06:41 AM
If in reality you don't know who he is, then you don't pay much attention.

Honestly, his name doesn't ring a bell but I have also scaled back my NFL involvement. A decade ago, I knew almost every player in the league.

Mecca
07-19-2018, 06:43 AM
Honestly, his name doesn't ring a bell but I have also scaled back my NFL involvement. A decade ago, I knew almost every player in the league.

Dude he's a defensive tackle that gets sacks...how many DT's have 40 career sacks? he does.

SuperBowl4
07-19-2018, 06:43 AM
Probably has something to do with Casey being dragged by a truck back in the day.Will the Titans take away this guys "platform"?

Mecca
07-19-2018, 06:49 AM
Will the Titans take away this guys "platform"?

I'll go with probably not, his contract makes him hard to cut and well honestly he's one of their best players.

MarkDavis'Haircut
07-19-2018, 07:05 AM
Dude he's a defensive tackle that gets sacks...how many DT's have 40 career sacks? he does.

Like I said, I have been out of the loop. I probably heard it and just forgot. Outside of the Raiders-Titans game last year, I didn't watch a single Titans matchup. The NFL has lost some of its luster.

Spott
07-19-2018, 07:12 AM
Meh, I could care less about the political beliefs of someone that I’ve never met and never will. Hell, I don’t care about what anyone thinks about politics because it’s completely irrelevant to anything going on in my life.

sully1983
07-19-2018, 07:15 AM
This dumb meat head doesn't even know what exactly he's protesting . "Social injustices " ?

loochy
07-19-2018, 07:17 AM
Never heard of her
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Reerun_KC
07-19-2018, 07:17 AM
Meh, I could care less about the political beliefs of someone that I’ve never met and never will. Hell, I don’t care about what anyone thinks about politics because it’s completely irrelevant to anything going on in my life.

This.

Nzoner
07-19-2018, 07:20 AM
They should just go ahead and cut his ass.

:thumb:

This just gives me more willpower in taking a giant step away from this league.

jjchieffan
07-19-2018, 07:29 AM
It says in the article that last year he would raise his fist during the anthem as his protest. It also says that he will continue his protest this season. If he is standing and raising his fist, then I guess that he's obeying the new NFL policy right? They just require players to stand I believe.

stevieray
07-19-2018, 07:31 AM
...his platform?

:rolleyes:

loochy
07-19-2018, 07:33 AM
Nothing will change his old neighborhood quite like raising a fist. Boy, that'll get things done. :rolleyes:
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Hog Rider
07-19-2018, 07:36 AM
Doesn't the team pay the fine instead of the player?

loochy
07-19-2018, 07:37 AM
Maybe he gets "injured" and placed on IR for a week or 2.
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Nzoner
07-19-2018, 07:39 AM
Nothing will change his old neighborhood quite like raising a fist. Boy, that'll get things done. :rolleyes:
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:clap:

Hoopsdoc
07-19-2018, 07:41 AM
Doesn't the team pay the fine instead of the player?

I don’t think that’s specified but I imagine most teams will pay the fines.

Strongside
07-19-2018, 07:55 AM
These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.

displacedinMN
07-19-2018, 07:56 AM
I don’t think that’s specified but I imagine most teams will pay the fines.

Until 25 players protest and the NFL fines each of them 5000 a game.

displacedinMN
07-19-2018, 08:02 AM
Talking about it on the radio today. Michelle Tafoya is on KQRS Minneapolis in the mornings.

The other host Tom Barnard said "What if the network just does not show the anthem or any of the protests?"

She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."

It will be posted on KQRS soon. Started talking about it about 8:35 am.

It sounds like Tafoya is tired of the whole thing too.

Nzoner
07-19-2018, 08:03 AM
These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.

Very well put and 100% agree

My opinion(especially with guys like Peters) **** them and **** this league

loochy
07-19-2018, 08:05 AM
She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."


No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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displacedinMN
07-19-2018, 08:08 AM
No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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NBC.

They could stop showing the anthem or just show the flag for a minute.

Strongside
07-19-2018, 08:09 AM
No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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Great comparison.

Networks be like: “we will not show fans that run into the field. We don’t want to glorify criminals.”

Also networks: “Here’s 50 photos and the life story of this mass shooter. We have to show this!”

KChiefs1
07-19-2018, 08:17 AM
I'm so sick of this whole thing.

DJJasonp
07-19-2018, 08:41 AM
Great comparison.

Networks be like: “we will not show fans that run into the field. We don’t want to glorify criminals.”

Also networks: “Here’s 50 photos and the life story of this mass shooter. We have to show this!”

Bingo. Wouldnt want to miss out on a little controversy/drama would they?

Media are whores.

Valiant
07-19-2018, 08:49 AM
Agreed, if the mediA just shows the flag and singer the issue goes away.

Also, don't have the players out there. They didn't use to be until the military paid the league to have them out there.

If they stay out there, eventually the team will take action as the league would just keep increasing the fine until it hurts.

KChiefs1
07-19-2018, 08:56 AM
Great comparison.



Networks be like: “we will not show fans that run into the field. We don’t want to glorify criminals.”



Also networks: “Here’s 50 photos and the life story of this mass shooter. We have to show this!”



I don't watch the news anymore.

smithandrew051
07-19-2018, 09:43 AM
My theory.

The NFL loves the anthem protest, because controversy creates cash. They announced the new rule after the draft and before camp. They found a way to stay in the news during a dead period.

They could’ve squashed this whole thing before it started if they were concerned with it. The first time Kaep sat through the anthem, they could’ve settled it then. They could’ve instructed their announcers, film crew, pregame shows, etc to not talk about it at all. Don’t give it any press and it will go away eventually. I would assume the NFL has decent leverage with ESPN as well. They probably could’ve made sure ESPN didn’t cover it either.

In the end, anthem protests won’t kill the NFL. CTE possibly will unless there is some sort of major breakthrough to prevent/treat it. Anything that distracts from that helps.

I’ll take off my tinfoil hat now.

BWillie
07-19-2018, 09:44 AM
Look at me, look at me, I want attention, look at me.

Eleazar
07-19-2018, 09:55 AM
Fine the first time, and then suspensions without pay will start. I'm guessing his qualms about America will subside after that.

tooge
07-19-2018, 09:58 AM
And this is why this shit continues. Let it go. Don't report it. Don't talk about it. Don't show it on TV. It'll fade away.

fan4ever
07-19-2018, 10:07 AM
At this point I'd imagine his "protest" has more to do with the league telling him what he can or can't do versus any social commentary.

BWillie
07-19-2018, 10:19 AM
And this is why this shit continues. Let it go. Don't report it. Don't talk about it. Don't show it on TV. It'll fade away.

The news networks are trying to piss you off, it makes you tune in and get ratings.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
07-19-2018, 10:27 AM
"It is what it is, at the end of the day, I don't pay no mind to it. I'm going to do what I do that's going to bring light to my community. ... I will continue to use my platform to keep on speaking up."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940855/article/jurrell-casey-plans-to-protest-on-field-during-anthem

Social consciousness is wonderful if done correctly. The audience he seems to thrive for would probably respond better to a different approach. He is in country music mecca & this not the right way to go

Chiefnj2
07-19-2018, 10:36 AM
Nothing will change his old neighborhood quite like raising a fist. Boy, that'll get things done. :rolleyes:
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"Already, the two have created the Casey Fund, a nonprofit organization dedicated to raising money for re-entry programs, inner-city youth programs, mentoring, halfway houses and other projects."

Looks like he's trying to arrange awareness in a multitude of ways.

loochy
07-19-2018, 11:12 AM
"Already, the two have created the Casey Fund, a nonprofit organization dedicated to raising money for re-entry programs, inner-city youth programs, mentoring, halfway houses and other projects."

Looks like he's trying to arrange awareness in a multitude of ways.

That's good. Does his fist or belligerence tell me how or make me want to donate?
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vailpass
07-19-2018, 11:18 AM
BFD.
Just don't televise the anthem this year. Or, when the anthem is playing keep the camera focused on the stadium flag.

Chiefs4TheWin
07-19-2018, 03:38 PM
Good for him. Moving on.

Flying High D
07-19-2018, 04:33 PM
How would like to wake up with his butt in your face?

BigCatDaddy
07-19-2018, 04:38 PM
Looks like the Fins are laying the smack down.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24142078/miami-dolphins-suspend-players-conduct-protests-national-anthem-according-report

New World Order
07-19-2018, 04:42 PM
Go Dolphins

Pablo
07-19-2018, 04:46 PM
I just want them to cast Jurrell as the lead in 'Roseanne' and let him use that show as his social platform. Everybody wins!

Kiimo
07-19-2018, 04:47 PM
BFD.
Just don't televise the anthem this year. Or, when the anthem is playing keep the camera focused on the stadium flag.

Or stop playing the anthem for absolutely no discernible reason before football games.

Pablo
07-19-2018, 04:48 PM
Or stop playing the anthem for absolutely no discernible reason before football games.I bet you wish they'd stop doing the 'Budweiser Hero of the Game' camera too, huh??

Otter
07-19-2018, 04:51 PM
BFD.
Just don't televise the anthem this year. Or, when the anthem is playing keep the camera focused on the stadium flag. That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.

Pablo
07-19-2018, 04:52 PM
That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.Do they not play the game anymore if a player protests? This a new thing for 2018?

Otter
07-19-2018, 04:57 PM
Do they not play the game anymore if a player protests? This a new thing for 2018? Sure do.</br></br>And their employer, the NFL, who asked them to stop protesting pays them handsomely to play.</br></br>I'm not going to play ring around the rosie on this subject again. Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

petegz28
07-19-2018, 05:01 PM
Talking about it on the radio today. Michelle Tafoya is on KQRS Minneapolis in the mornings.

The other host Tom Barnard said "What if the network just does not show the anthem or any of the protests?"

She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."

It will be posted on KQRS soon. Started talking about it about 8:35 am.

It sounds like Tafoya is tired of the whole thing too.

No, they don't HAVE TO.....what a dumb thing for her to say

ThaVirus
07-19-2018, 05:33 PM
As long as tens of millions of pussies are getting hurt over this issue, they'll keep reporting it.

You made this bed, snowflakes. Now lie in it.

Rain Man
07-19-2018, 05:36 PM
Maybe while he's kneeling, he can read a grammar book.

WhawhaWhat
07-19-2018, 05:46 PM
Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

Those rules have to be collectively bargained and this rule was not.

Chief Roundup
07-19-2018, 05:54 PM
Looks like the Fins are laying the smack down.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24142078/miami-dolphins-suspend-players-conduct-protests-national-anthem-according-report

Read a little more.

Miami Dolphins players who protest on the field during the national anthem reportedly could be suspended for up to four games under a team policy issued this week.

The "Proper Anthem Conduct" section is just one sentence in a nine-page discipline document provided to The Associated Press by a person familiar with the policy who insisted on anonymity because the document is not public. It classifies anthem protests under a large list of "conduct detrimental to the club," all of which could lead to a paid or unpaid suspension, a fine, or both.


In a statement, the Dolphins confirmed they sent the NFL the document, without offering specifics on what plains it laid out.

"The NFL required each team to submit their rules regarding the anthem before their players reported to training camp," the team said. "We will address this issue once the season starts. All options are still open.''

Sources told ESPN's Jeff Darlington that the Dolphins have not made any internal decisions about the extent to which players will be disciplined for those protests. In addition, a league source said that the Dolphins' submission of potential discipline is standard protocol followed by every team before training camp opens. The Dolphins are among the first to have players (rookies, in this case) report to camp, and so they were among the first to be required to submit the mandatory paperwork.

On the Dolphins' side, sources say that by submitting the paperwork, they are merely delaying their decision on how to handle player discipline for protesting during the anthem. By submitting maximum penalties, they can easily tailor those back. But once the paperwork is submitted, it is the team's understanding that you can't increase potential discipline for conduct detrimental. One source said there is no expectation that a player will be suspended four games -- listed as the maximum possible penalty -- for protesting during the anthem.

Miami's anthem policy comes after the NFL decided in May that teams would be fined if players didn't stand during the national anthem while on the field. The league left it up to teams on how to punish players. None of the team policies has been made public.

The NFL rule forbids players from sitting or taking a knee if they are on the field or sideline during the anthem, but allows them to stay in the locker room if they wish. The new league rules were challenged this month in a grievance by the players union.

Any team that wants to discipline its players would have to do so under the "conduct detrimental" portion of the collective bargaining agreement.
Miami Dolphins Arian Foster (29), Kenny Stills (10) and Michael Thomas (31) kneel during the national anthem before a game against the New England Patriots in 2016. AP Photo/Steven Senne, File

The specific punishment that a team would be able to hand out according to the CBA states, "Conduct detrimental to Club -- maximum fine of an amount equal to one week's salary and/or suspension without pay for a period not to exceed four (4) weeks."

Wide receiver Kenny Stills, safety Michael Thomas and tight end Julius Thomas knelt during the anthem several times during the 2017 season. Only Stills is with the team now, as Michael Thomas signed with the New York Giants and Julius Thomas was released. The Dolphins also added defensive end Robert Quinn in a trade with the Los Angeles Rams in March. Quinn has raised his fist in protest during the anthem the past two years.

The NFL declined to comment to the Associated Press.

The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

When the league announced the policy, commissioner Roger Goodell called it a compromise aimed at putting the focus back on football after a tumultuous year in which television ratings dipped nearly 10 percent.

The union said when it filed the grievance that it proposed having its executive committee talk to the NFL instead of litigating. The union said the NFL agreed to those discussions.

Each of the league's 31 other teams will also need to submit similar paperwork in the coming days.

Chief Roundup
07-19-2018, 05:57 PM
Sure do.</br></br>And their employer, the NFL, who asked them to stop protesting pays them handsomely to play.</br></br>I'm not going to play ring around the rosie on this subject again. Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

I think you need to learn a little more about a persons rights in the constitution. No employer can infringe on a employees personal rights.

Al Bundy
07-19-2018, 06:08 PM
Great another bunch of faux outrage from out of shape racist white guys. If you that bothered by someone kneeling during a song go fuck right off.

Flying High D
07-19-2018, 06:09 PM
The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

I think you need to learn a little more about a persons rights in the constitution. No employer can infringe on a employees personal rights.

Somebody hasn’t served in the military. You have right to free speech. How does your employer feel about that? You have the right. You also have can suffer the consequences of those rights.

Flying High D
07-19-2018, 06:12 PM
Maybe while he's kneeling, he can read a grammar book.


http://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/34904816_10209187778931410_455782157084786688_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=8fa05cb0c0ab3f2cd959d1efdb3a2215&oe=5BD17AC3

Kiimo
07-19-2018, 06:16 PM
I bet you wish they'd stop doing the 'Budweiser Hero of the Game' camera too, huh??

ban budweiser

Chiefs4TheWin
07-19-2018, 06:21 PM
ban budweiser

I don't think there's too many people that'd disagree with that statement lol!

Al Bundy
07-19-2018, 06:21 PM
That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.

Those people need to get over it and look solely at the flag. Instead of what most fans do and drink beer and yell the teams name at the end of the anthem.

ChiTown
07-19-2018, 06:23 PM
Interestingly enough, this won’t affect my viewing of any NFL Games one iota. So, ZFG.

Chief Roundup
07-19-2018, 06:30 PM
Somebody hasn’t served in the military. You have right to free speech. How does your employer feel about that? You have the right. You also have can suffer the consequences of those rights.

And they can be sued and will settle the dispute quickly.

vailpass
07-19-2018, 06:35 PM
That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.

I did a bad job there of simply saying they shouldn’t show the “protesters” on tv while they are kneeling.

vailpass
07-19-2018, 06:37 PM
Or stop playing the anthem for absolutely no discernible reason before football games.

Kalifornia values. Nice.

JakeF
07-19-2018, 07:10 PM
It's not HIS PLATFORM, its the America platform. America was built on the platform of peaceful protest. People always seem to want Freedom of Expression for things they approve of but not for things they don't.

bdj23
07-19-2018, 07:19 PM
:thumb:

This just gives me more willpower in taking a giant step away from this league.

This

If i wasn't a FF comish and the champion of two of my leagues, id kiss the NFL goodbye.

This franchise aint ever winning anything anyway.

HemiEd
07-20-2018, 04:16 AM
:thumb:

This just gives me more willpower in taking a giant step away from this league.

Yep.

The NFL is losing out with the younger generations to watching video game competition.

Now they are going to continue to piss off us old farts.

It is eating itself with this crap.

stevieray
07-20-2018, 06:39 AM
It's not HIS PLATFORM, its the America platform.

Incorrect...it's the NFL's platform.

jjchieffan
07-20-2018, 03:30 PM
I think that the NFL should allow fans to bring bags of tomatoes into the stadium. If someone kneels during the anthem, the fans can pelt him with tomatoes to express their outrage. That would be a funny sight to see. LOL. Marcus Peters takes a knee and gets covered in tomatoes. I would laugh my ass off.

FloridaMan88
07-20-2018, 04:26 PM
The NBA which is at least 80% black, has had a rule in place since the 1980's requiring that players and coaches stand for the National Anthem.

There are countless other avenues for NFL players to express their support for social justice causes... why mess with the National Anthem?

WhiteWhale
07-20-2018, 04:47 PM
Get woke, go broke.

DaFace
07-20-2018, 04:55 PM
I bet you wish they'd stop doing the 'Budweiser Hero of the Game' camera too, huh??You know that the teams only started doing that because it was a paid sponsorship by the military for recruiting purposes, right?

Pablo
07-20-2018, 06:28 PM
You know that the teams only started doing that because it was a paid sponsorship by the military for recruiting purposes, right?

Yes. I do.

POND_OF_RED
07-20-2018, 07:48 PM
Wonder what kind of backlash the NFL was getting. Are they worried about the players walking away or were there enough fans that didn’t like when the league decided to take a political stand. It didn’t sound like I was the first person the ticket office heard a complaint from when I cancelled my season tickets.

Chief Roundup
07-20-2018, 09:00 PM
Wonder what kind of backlash the NFL was getting. Are they worried about the players walking away or were there enough fans that didn’t like when the league decided to take a political stand. It didn’t sound like I was the first person the ticket office heard a complaint from when I cancelled my season tickets.

You cancelled your season tickets over a few players kneeling?

POND_OF_RED
07-20-2018, 09:16 PM
You cancelled your season tickets over a few players kneeling?

No, I cancelled my season tickets when the Chiefs made a political stand by giving Peters away for peanuts.

KChiefs1
07-20-2018, 09:18 PM
It’s the employer’s right to have their employees follow the rules.

Chief Roundup
07-20-2018, 09:22 PM
NFL, NFLPA announce 'standstill' on anthem rules after Dolphins report

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24143418/nfl-nflpa-agree-freeze-national-anthem-rules

With the Miami Dolphins facing backlash after submitting required paperwork to the NFL that included potential disciplinary measures for player protests during the national anthem, the league has decided to hit pause on its new policy, sources told ESPN.

The league and the NFL Players Association issued a joint statement Thursday that said "no new rules relating to the anthem will be issued or enforced for the next several weeks" while both sides continue to hold discussions to figure out how to move forward.

"The NFL and NFLPA, through recent discussions, have been working on a resolution to the anthem issue," the joint statement said. "In order to allow this constructive dialogue to continue, we have come to a standstill agreement on the NFLPA's grievance and on the NFL's anthem policy.

"The NFL and NFLPA reflect the great values of America, which are repeatedly demonstrated by the many players doing extraordinary work in communities across our country to promote equality, fairness and justice. Our shared focus will remain on finding a solution to the anthem issue through mutual, good faith commitments, outside of litigation."

The NFL decided in May that teams would be fined if players didn't stand during the national anthem while on the field. The rule forbids players from sitting or taking a knee if they are on the field or sideline during the anthem but allows them to stay in the locker room if they wish. The league left the punishment of players up to the teams.

The policy was challenged this month in a grievance by the players' union.

Sources told ESPN's Dan Graziano that the NFL and NFLPA had been prepared to issue the standstill agreement Friday but moved up the announcement because of the Dolphins story that broke earlier Thursday from The Associated Press.

According to the AP report, the Dolphins could impose discipline of up to a four-game suspension for any player who protested during the anthem. The report cited a nine-page document the Dolphins filed with the NFL that overviewed the team's overarching disciplinary policies.

However, multiple sources with the Dolphins and the NFL told ESPN that the Dolphins' submission of their potential disciplinary policies was merely part of an annual filing required of every team before the start of training camp. One Dolphins source said the team has not discussed -- and doesn't expect to impose -- suspensions for protesting during the anthem.

Instead, one Dolphins source said the team merely filed the paperwork required by the league, stating potential discipline, with the expectation that it could later discuss and decide exactly what type of discipline, if any, would be imposed on players if they violated a rule that was newly instituted in May by the NFL.

"We were asked to submit a form to the NFL on our overall discipline policy prior to the start of the rookie report date," Dolphins owner Stephen Ross said in a statement on Friday. "The one line sentence related to the national anthem was a placeholder as we haven't made a decision on what we would do, if anything, at that point. I'm pleased that the NFL and NFLPA are taking a pause to figure out a resolution on this issue."

The league's 31 other teams also would need to file similar paperwork, and in the wake of Thursday's report about the Dolphins, the NFL was up against another PR mess: With teams about to report to camp, the focus would turn toward individual team filings to see how respective organizations would impose discipline on players protesting during the anthem.

The joint statement will allow the focus to remain on football and provide time for a more clear plan, according to league sources.

The Baltimore Ravens were the first team to report Wednesday and practice Thursday, and they did not distribute any new specific policy and had no plans to, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

RunKC
07-20-2018, 09:22 PM
Has Mr. Casey done anything of note to support this cause in the offseason?

Chief Roundup
07-20-2018, 09:24 PM
No, I cancelled my season tickets when the Chiefs made a political stand by giving Peters away for peanuts.

ROFL we got more than if we let him walk after this season. We got rid of a cancer on the team. No team wanted him very much hence the lack of POSSIBLE interest and compensation.

POND_OF_RED
07-20-2018, 09:29 PM
Has Mr. Casey done anything of note to support this cause in the offseason?

Not that you’re looking for a real answer, but yes he started the Casey Fund which helps inmates readjust to life outside of prison and helps inner-city youth who are at risk of getting involved in crime. His wife is also a public defender which is probably another main reason this discussion is very meaningful to him and why he won’t just lie down.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
07-21-2018, 05:07 AM
Look at me & just ignore it. Solution waits patiently

ILChief
07-21-2018, 08:48 AM
Let this issue die. I don’t care if they all stand, all kneel, all stay in the locker room, or if the anthem isn’t played at all. I’m just so sick of this crap

BWillie
07-21-2018, 10:53 AM
Let this issue die. I don’t care if they all stand, all kneel, all stay in the locker room, or if the anthem isn’t played at all. I’m just so sick of this crap

This is the correct answer.

JakeF
07-21-2018, 11:47 AM
The man that started all of this. He is listening to the anthem without showing the proper respect. He ended up being elected president by the same people demanding players get fired for kneeling.

http://www.auroracup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/trumpex.jpg

MMXcalibur
07-21-2018, 12:18 PM
I'm done with this shit.

I'm done with Kaepernick trying to wiggle his way back into a league he made an ass out of on their own stage.

I'm done with Donnie Dumbass needing to weigh in on the subject to appeal to his gaggle of red-hatted retards.

I'm done with the NFL not being able to find a competent solution to this mess and repeatedly punching themselves in the dick.

Just go play some goddamn football.

T-post Tom
07-21-2018, 12:31 PM
ROFL we got more than if we let him walk after this season. We got rid of a cancer on the team. No team wanted him very much hence the lack of POSSIBLE interest and compensation.

How long before his socks go missing in LA?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQJsVMNVoAAyGxP.jpg

displacedinMN
07-21-2018, 01:00 PM
The NBA which is at least 80% black, has had a rule in place since the 1980's requiring that players and coaches stand for the National Anthem.

There are countless other avenues for NFL players to express their support for social justice causes... why mess with the National Anthem?

This.. This is why I have no sympathy for NFL players. And cannot understand why this discussion is even happening. If you do not like it, you have the right to stay in the locker room.

What are the policies in MLB and Hockey?

Flying High D
07-21-2018, 02:51 PM
This.. This is why I have no sympathy for NFL players. And cannot understand why this discussion is even happening. If you do not like it, you have the right to stay in the locker room.

What are the policies in MLB and Hockey?

A lot of MLB players are from countries that have social injustices. If a player on their team didn’t respect the national anthem I think a player from one of those countries would blow a gasket.

Marcellus
07-21-2018, 03:50 PM
These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.


Solid post but this has been brought up about 1,000X already and the usual suspects still show up and defend this nonsense.

Social Injustice does not exist, nor does most of what they are protesting or as you pointed out, there would be specific discussions to be had instead of just SJW buzzwords.

Marcellus
07-21-2018, 03:52 PM
The man that started all of this. He is listening to the anthem without showing the proper respect. He ended up being elected president by the same people demanding players get fired for kneeling.

http://www.auroracup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/trumpex.jpg

How can you possibly be so fucking stupid to claim Trump started this? Are you seriously that fucking dumb?

jdubya
07-21-2018, 03:53 PM
The man that started all of this. He is listening to the anthem without showing the proper respect. He ended up being elected president by the same people demanding players get fired for kneeling.

http://www.auroracup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/trumpex.jpg

Um........Trump didn`t "start" any of this.:rolleyes:

Spott
07-21-2018, 04:01 PM
This shit is definitely going to the DC now.

Marcellus
07-21-2018, 04:36 PM
This shit is definitely going to the DC now.

:rolleyes:

Is this a political discussion or not?

dj56dt58
07-21-2018, 05:52 PM
if a player kneels for the anthem make it a 15 yard penalty on their teams first possession

Marcellus
07-21-2018, 05:56 PM
if a player kneels for the anthem make it a 15 yard penalty on their teams first possession

Its a great idea really. Start penalizing the team on the field and it will stop.

Flying High D
07-21-2018, 06:00 PM
Whoever thinks Trump started this never thought America was ever Great to begin with.

loochy
07-21-2018, 06:18 PM
The man that started all of this. He is listening to the anthem without showing the proper respect. He ended up being elected president by the same people demanding players get fired for kneeling.

http://www.auroracup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/trumpex.jpg

It's just another excuse for millionaire grown men to be attention whores to maje up for their daddy issues.

CHENZ A!
07-21-2018, 06:24 PM
Social Injustice does not exist, nor does most of what they are protesting or as you pointed out, there would be specific discussions to be had instead of just SJW buzzwords.

It's seriously baffling to me how someone so naive, ignorant, and obviously sheltered can actually exist in todays world. At least if you were being intentionally dishonest it would make sense, but if that's your actual take.. yikes. You should probably just boycott. LMAO

Marcellus
07-21-2018, 06:27 PM
It's seriously baffling to me how someone so naive, ignorant, and obviously sheltered can actually exist in todays world. At least if you were being intentionally dishonest it would make sense, but if that's your actual take.. yikes. You should probably just boycott. LMAO

NAh dude I am not the one falling for the bullshit.

Before lecturing me on what you think I know or dont know you may want to think of who is in charge in all these places all these players are claiming Social Injustice exist.

You know where these places are, I believe you live in one. You should know who is in charge.

So go ahead and act enlightened but as far as I am concerned you are dumber than these players complaining about being ****ed by their own.

dj56dt58
07-21-2018, 10:19 PM
Its a great idea really. Start penalizing the team on the field and it will stop.

There is no suspension or fine involved so nflpa is less likely to get involved and they won’t want to hurt their team so they are more likely to exercise their right to stay in the tunnel

I’m all for freedom of speech and equality but this has reached the point that it’s more like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum without even knowing why

Al Bundy
07-21-2018, 10:44 PM
NAh dude I am not the one falling for the bullshit.

Before lecturing me on what you think I know or dont know you may want to think of who is in charge in all these places all these players are claiming Social Injustice exist.

You know where these places are, I believe you live in one. You should know who is in charge.

So go ahead and act enlightened but as far as I am concerned you are dumber than these players complaining about being ****ed by their own.

Holy shit you are stupid.....

vailpass
07-21-2018, 11:01 PM
Holy shit you are stupid.....

Says the grown man who drives Uber.