Does the NFL hate the game of football?

[wazu]

I've had concerns for awhile, but kept telling myself this will all blow over and in the end the NFL will restore sanity to avoid destroying it's own product. I know this is just one play, but it eroded what was left in my belief. The NFL seems to be set on sabotaging it's own game.

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[Bowser]

Absolutely ridiculous

[GloucesterChief]

One word: Liability.

[hometeam]

what it in the fuck???

[Red Dawg]

That's crazy stupid. Completely clean safe as possible hit.

[eDave]

Had a better case for a celebration penalty.

[Sassy Squatch]

Yeah, I don't know what he could've done differently there. That is some bullshit.

[ThaVirus]

I'm generally all for making the game safer but I can't defend this.

[Bump]

you can't even sack the QB anymore?

[NJChiefsFan]

I'm generally all for making the game safer but I can't defend this.

I agree. Some of all of this is lawsuits. This play however, is outrageous. He literally avoids the head and almost gently pulls him down. Still gets punished.

[kysirsoze]

Obligatory "preseason for refs, too" but I am also worried this is the new normal.

[wazu]

This is a textbook “safe” sack. Other than coming to a complete stop and politely asking the QB to “yield” and take a knee there is nothing he could have done. Has that ref never seen a football game? Doubtful. He’s acting on an immense amount of pressure to officiate a certain way.

[KCUnited]

We got a penalty for twerking...in Atlanta...let that sink in.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Let's hope we can chalk it up to preseason and we don't see that in the regular.

[Bob Dole]

We got a penalty for twerking...in Atlanta...let that sink in.

And I’m pretty sure he was not in the field of play.

[HemiEd]

you can't even sack the QB anymore?

FORWARD PROGRESS!!!!!

[Frazod]

They just need to add some more pink uniform highlights. That will make it all better. :shake:

[TinyEvel]

Clearly forward progress was stopped, too. :rolleyes:

[wazu]

Let's hope we can chalk it up to preseason and we don't see that in the regular.

Just not sure how that ref, seeing that play, making that call, is suddenly somehow smarter in the regular season.

[ROYC75]

Just idiotic!

[kjwood75nro]

Lesson here is, if you get a clean shot at the QB, kill him.

Helmet to helmet, step on the throat while getting up, collect your flag. If you're gonna get flagged anyway, make it count.

[Discuss Thrower]

The Son of Hochuli blew this one, didn't he?

[Easy 6]

Oh wow, that is truly pathetic

The NFL is scared of being sued into oblivion, at some point the players need to accept that those millions of dollars can come with physical consequences... and make their decision to play, or not play, from there

[JakeF]

Does the NFL hate the game of football?
Yes, they hate the business that has made them billions. :rolleyes:

That sack penalty is not based on a new rule. It's been around for a long time. I believe it started when Refrigerator Perry and other heavy Defensive linemen started hurting QB's by driving them into the ground with all that weight. That guy drove his shoulder into the QB right as he hit the ground. Was it a bit ticky-tack? Yes, but it wasn't crazy bad. Stupid homer announcers get everyone all riled up instead of trying to be a little bit impartial about it.

The same thing happens with Sports Talk Show Hosts when they need something to talk about. They break out the low-hanging fruit and start trashing the NFL. Inevitably it will get the idiot crowd to break out their pitchforks and call in.

Roger Goodell!!
NFL Refs!!
NFL owners!!
I don't understand all these new-fangled rules with a bunch of fancy words!!
Look, Brown People are taking a knee instead of doing what their betters told them to do!!

Get the pitchforks and burn this shit to the ground. Boycott,boycott Grrrr!!

The owners are getting sued by players who complain about safety rules one moment but then sue them the next moment when they get hurt. They are losing their player base because parents are getting scared to let their kids play such a violent sport.

The owners are trying to save the NFL so that they can continue to make money.

[Bob Dole]

Yes, they hate the business that has made them billions. :rolleyes:

That sack penalty is not based on a new rule. It's been around for a long time. I believe it started when Refrigerator Perry and other heavy Defensive linemen started hurting QB's by driving them into the ground with all that weight. That guy drove his shoulder into the QB right as he hit the ground. Was it a bit ticky-tack? Yes, but it wasn't crazy bad. Stupid homer announcers get everyone all riled up instead of trying to be a little bit impartial about it.

The same thing happens with Sports Talk Show Hosts when they need something to talk about. They break out the low-hanging fruit and start trashing the NFL. Inevitably it will get the idiot crowd to break out their pitchforks and call in.

Roger Goodell!!
NFL Refs!!
NFL owners!!
I don't understand all these new-fangled rules with a bunch of fancy words!!
Look, Brown People are taking a knee instead of doing what their betters told them to do!!

Get the pitchforks and burn this shit to the ground. Boycott,boycott Grrrr!!

The owners are getting sued by players who complain about safety rules one moment but then sue them the next moment when they get hurt. They are losing their player base because parents are getting scared to let their kids play such a violent sport.

The owners are trying to save the NFL so that they can continue to make money.

That was not even close to being driven in to the ground.

[Bwana]

Unreal, just strap the flags on them already, we're almost there now.

[Raiderhater]

Oh wow, that is truly pathetic

The NFL is scared of being sued into oblivion, at some point the players need to accept that those millions of dollars can come with physical consequences... and make their decision to play, or not play, from there



Do players not have to sign a waiver acknowledging that they are assuming the risks involved with such a physical sport? I’m seriously asking because I don’t know. But one would think that would be in place.

[DaFace]

Yeah, that's awful.

But even beyond this kind of crap, it's been clear for a long time now that the NFL cares about money a whole lot more than they care about the game of football.

[Mecca]

It just goes right line with how they have a shit ton of subjective rules that can be called 100 different ways depending on the reffing crew.

They have all these rules worded in ways that no matter what the call is they can defend it like it's right, it's stupid and ridiculous and it makes people think they are fixing games.

[hometeam]

Yes, they hate the business that has made them billions. :rolleyes:

That sack penalty is not based on a new rule. It's been around for a long time. I believe it started when Refrigerator Perry and other heavy Defensive linemen started hurting QB's by driving them into the ground with all that weight. That guy drove his shoulder into the QB right as he hit the ground. Was it a bit ticky-tack? Yes, but it wasn't crazy bad. Stupid homer announcers get everyone all riled up instead of trying to be a little bit impartial about it.

The same thing happens with Sports Talk Show Hosts when they need something to talk about. They break out the low-hanging fruit and start trashing the NFL. Inevitably it will get the idiot crowd to break out their pitchforks and call in.

Roger Goodell!!
NFL Refs!!
NFL owners!!
I don't understand all these new-fangled rules with a bunch of fancy words!!
Look, Brown People are taking a knee instead of doing what their betters told them to do!!

Get the pitchforks and burn this shit to the ground. Boycott,boycott Grrrr!!

The owners are getting sued by players who complain about safety rules one moment but then sue them the next moment when they get hurt. They are losing their player base because parents are getting scared to let their kids play such a violent sport.

The owners are trying to save the NFL so that they can continue to make money.

that was 100% as clean of a hit as you can do.. you are high

[Easy 6]

Do players not have to sign a waiver acknowledging that they are assuming the risks involved with such a physical sport? I’m seriously asking because I don’t know. But one would think that would be in place.

Couldnt tell you, all I know is that while its easy to hate Goodell and the owners for a million different reasons... it just might be former players lawsuits that are ultimately causing this

I'd rather shrink the talent pool by putting a hard and fast 'you are assuming certain risks' clause in every NFL contract... than change the actual game into something unrecognizable

[Mecca]

Couldnt tell you, all I know is that while its easy to hate Goodell and the owners for a million different reasons... it just might be former players lawsuits that are ultimately causing this

I'd rather shrink the talent pool by putting a hard and fast 'you are assuming certain risks' clause in every NFL contract... than change the actual game into something unrecognizable

The problem is the legal system has basically made it where even if you sign those waivers, those people can still sue and win so they never really hold up.

[Raiderhater]

Couldnt tell you, all I know is that while its easy to hate Goodell and the owners for a million different reasons... it just might be former players lawsuits that are ultimately causing this



I'd rather shrink the talent pool by putting a hard and fast 'you are assuming certain risks' clause in every NFL contract... than change the actual game into something unrecognizable


I totally agree.

[Raiderhater]

The problem is the legal system has basically made it where even if you sign those waivers, those people can still sue and win so they never really hold up.



This is sadly believable.

[jimidollar]

This kind of shit along with taunting penalties have too much impact on the game.

[Dartgod]

This is sadly believable.

Well, look who decided to grace us with his presence.

[Raiderhater]

Well, look who decided to grace us with his presence.



:D There have been numerous reasons for my limited activity on this board, the subject of this thread being one of them. It has just been hard for me to get excited about the NFL in general. And the last playoff loss to Indy took what little was left of my fervor for the Chiefs to lowest it could go with out completely walking away. I keep thinking Mahomes will change this, but when I look at this thread my overall excitement is still diminished. I still look in on this place on a regular basis, I just rarely participate.

Hope all is well with you.

[Buck]

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[MarkDavis'Haircut]

What stinks about these rules changes is that they were only instituted because star quarterbacks got hurt. Brady in 08 and Rodgers last year.

If some hack like Cassel went down, no changes.

[Bowser]

Start at 7:20

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What the hell? Just....stop, refs.

[KChiefs1]

If it wasn’t for Mahomes I don’t think I’d watch it. It’s a mess right now.

Please bring back football in the 70’s.

[Best22]

I may be wrong, but I believe that because the NFL provides an environment in which these concussions are possible, they are made liable

It's a stupid rule but what else would you expect in America, Land of the Lawsuits and Home of the Brave

I honestly don't know what the point of waivers are.

[Raiderhater]

What stinks about these rules changes is that they were only instituted because star quarterbacks got hurt. Brady in 08 and Rodgers last year.



If some hack like Cassel went down, no changes.



Trent Green in ‘06.

I curse Robert Geathers to this day.

[Rasputin]

Rugby seems like a nice sport they don't wear helmets or pads.

[arrwheader]

what it in the ****???

This will be the next “catch” rule. Just another way for the refs to determine outcome of a game it certainly will help to destroy the game.

[NJChiefsFan]

Yes, they hate the business that has made them billions. :rolleyes:

That sack penalty is not based on a new rule. It's been around for a long time. I believe it started when Refrigerator Perry and other heavy Defensive linemen started hurting QB's by driving them into the ground with all that weight. That guy drove his shoulder into the QB right as he hit the ground. Was it a bit ticky-tack? Yes, but it wasn't crazy bad. Stupid homer announcers get everyone all riled up instead of trying to be a little bit impartial about it.

The same thing happens with Sports Talk Show Hosts when they need something to talk about. They break out the low-hanging fruit and start trashing the NFL. Inevitably it will get the idiot crowd to break out their pitchforks and call in.

Roger Goodell!!
NFL Refs!!
NFL owners!!
I don't understand all these new-fangled rules with a bunch of fancy words!!
Look, Brown People are taking a knee instead of doing what their betters told them to do!!

Get the pitchforks and burn this shit to the ground. Boycott,boycott Grrrr!!

The owners are getting sued by players who complain about safety rules one moment but then sue them the next moment when they get hurt. They are losing their player base because parents are getting scared to let their kids play such a violent sport.

The owners are trying to save the NFL so that they can continue to make money.

Are you using the correct link?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Chiefs finally get a franchise QB and the game is unwatchable...The same teams that benefit from the other subjective calls will be the ones benefiting when the real games start. Fuck this.

[BigRichard]

I always thought if they just limited the size of players they would eliminate a lot of the injuries. If you don't allow 350 lb guys to smash 230 lb QBs you wouldn't have nearly as many injuries. Then they wouldn't have had to change the rules so much.

During the 70s and 80s the average lineman was around 260 or something like that and now it is well north of 300? That extra weight has a lot to do with the extra injuries I would think.

[oldman]

That's a 100% clean hit. Start taking those away and you might as well start playing flag football. Of course it would be OK for "some QBs" to sew their flag on their pants with steel cable. Not mentioning any names ----.

[DJJasonp]

The more ambiguous rules the NFL can implement - the more they can guide an outcome/betting line the way they want.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Trent Green in ‘06.

I curse Robert Geathers to this day.

I don't remember the Trent Green hit. Was there a new rule made up after his hit? If not, it just reinforces how biased the NFL is.