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Rain Man
09-11-2018, 02:46 PM
We're in the final four now. One of these guys will end up in the championship.

Vote for the person that you think would win this match in a battle to death or submission. As background, assume that prior to the tournament you received 10 minutes of training on every weapon. The time listed is the amount of time before the match where you learn what the weaponry and venue is. All participants are handed their weapons at t=0 unless stated otherwise.

Venue - The summit of Mount Everest, with no supplemental oxygen
Starting Distance - 5 feet

TLO

Main Weapon - Baseball Bat
Backup Weapon - 10 Lawn darts

Prep Time - 9 Minutes
Special Factors - None

Bwana

Main Weapon - Pirate cutlass
Backup Weapon - Baseball Bat

Prep Time - 4 Minutes
Special Factors - At time t= -5 seconds, your left foot is nailed to the ground/floor.

Hydrae
09-11-2018, 03:06 PM
This may go to TLO depending on how accurate he can be with those lawn darts. Just stand back and fire away at the nearly immobilized Bwana.

TLO
09-11-2018, 04:21 PM
The lawn darts win the day here. A couple solid hits, and all I have to do is wait for the blood loss to take effect.

Easy win

TLO
09-11-2018, 04:25 PM
Here's a lengthy article about the dangers of lawn darts, if anyone cares to read it.

How One Grieving Father Got Lawn Darts Banned
BY MATT SONIAK
JUNE 12, 2012

Lawn darts, or Jarts, were all the rage in the 1980s. With a few Jarts, a few friends, and a few beers, American backyard-barbecue-goers would lay down small plastic hoops as targets and play a game not entirely unlike horseshoes. Each player would toss the darts into the air, attempting to arc them into the opposite ring. While the darts, which had a metal spike and plastic fins on the sides for flight stability, were not especially sharp, they were weighted. They picked up enough speed to come sailing down with a satisfying thunk and stick in the ground. Landing a bulls-eye in the hoop would net a player three points, and the closest non-bullseye landings would get a point.

David Snow, an aerospace engineer from Riverside, California, wasn’t even looking for lawn darts when he went shopping for party games in April 1987. He wanted a volleyball set, but all the department store had was volleyball in a combo pack with two other games. Whatever, he decided. He’d buy it, set up the volleyball net and leave the rest in the box in the garage.

His plan didn’t bear out. One Sunday afternoon soon after, his nine-year-old son and some of his neighborhood friends found the Jarts and began tossing them around in Snow’s backyard. One kid tossed his Jart too far and too high, sailing it over the backyard fence and into the front yard, where Snow’s daughter, seven-year-old Michelle, was playing with her dolls. The Jart came down right on her and, with what researchers estimate as 23,000 pounds of pressure per square inch, penetrated her skull. She collapsed, was rushed to the hospital, and was pronounced clinically dead three days later.

For weeks after, the Snows were overcome with grief. When David returned to work at Hughes Aircraft, he had a hard time adjusting. He sat in meetings listening to his co-workers talk about work things. Parts shortages. Budgets. Personnel issues. None of it seemed the least bit important anymore. His sadness gave way to anger, and he began a crusade. "I want to get these damned darts," he told The Los Angeles Times at the time. "These things killed my child. If I don't do anything, it's just a matter of time before someone else gets killed. I'm going to get them off the market. Whatever it takes."

He began to research Jarts and discovered that, for years, they had been banned from sale in the U.S. because of several injuries they’d caused to children. Jart manufacturers and distributors had challenged the ban in court, though, and won a compromise: a regulation stating that lawn darts could made and sold provided they were marketed only as a game for adults. A warning label had to be placed on each package alerting consumers to the danger they posed, and the darts couldn’t be merchandised in toy departments or sold in toy stores.

To Snow, Michelle’s death proved that the regulation didn’t protect kids. It didn't matter that they were sold as an adult game; if Jarts were in a home and children were allowed to play with them or could still get access to them, he thought, accidents would happen. He wanted the ban back in place and began lobbying public officials with phone calls and letters telling his story.

When Snow brought his complaints to the the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), they told him that their injury clearinghouse, which makes national estimates of injuries caused by products based on a sampling of hospital emergency room reports from around the country, only knew of some two dozen injuries from lawn darts. A complete ban couldn’t be justified by that. Snow asked them to check their stats again.

By the Numbers
The commission, which had already come under fire from parents and consumer groups for their lax regulation and high-profile injuries from ATVs and other products, went along with his suggestion. During their new investigation, they separated lawn dart injuries from all dart-related injuries for the first time, and found that most Jart injuries had been lost in their figures. Over a period of eight years, lawn darts had sent 6,100 people to the emergency room. 81% of those cases involved children 15 or younger, and half of those were 10 or younger. The majority of injuries were to the head, face, eyes or ears, and many had led to permanent injury or disability.

When the commission collected 21 different lawn dart sets from 14 manufacturers, they also found that most of them weren’t complying with the warning requirements. A survey of 53 retailers likewise found that many weren’t following the regulation, and in a third of the stores, lawn darts were displayed in toy departments or with toys and sporting equipment intended for kids. The commission met with lawn dart makers and distributors and struck a new agreement on improved labeling and retail practices. The commission published a new safety warning for lawn darts and scheduled a vote on an outright ban for later in the year.

The week of the vote, Snow went back to Washington, D.C. to lobby the commission and get press for his cause. He gave interviews to consumer reporters from TV stations and newspapers. He met with President Reagan's assistant for consumer affairs. Finally, he had meetings with each of the three consumer product safety commissioners. By the time they voted, Snow felt confident he had at least two of the three commissioners on his side.

He was right. As an 11-year-old girl in Tennessee lay in a coma from a lawn dart injury earlier that week, the commission voted 2-1 in favor of a ban. Lawn darts were removed from stores the week before Christmas in 1988 and banned from further sale. The ban did not, however, include a recall of darts that had already been purchased, and the commission sent out a press release pleading for the public to destroy their darts or keep them out of the hands of kids.

Canada followed with their own similar ban, and today, fully assembled individual lawn darts, sets, and kits are banned from sale in, or entry into, both countries. If you try to list Jarts on eBay, they’ll pull your auction, but it’s still possible to buy and sell them at flea markets and yard sales, out from under the eye of the CPSC. It’s also okay to buy and sell replacement parts to repair damaged lawn darts purchased before the ban.

Despite the CPSC’s warnings to purge them and the possibility of puncturing someone’s skull, some folks still pull their old Jart sets out summer after summer. I vaguely remember their presence at family parties when I was a kid, and settling for a Jart game at a college barbecue when we couldn’t find sand on short notice to build a horseshoe pit. There’s even an underground Jarts tournament based in the suburbs of Dayton, Ohio, chronicled in the book

MIAdragon
09-11-2018, 04:29 PM
The 100mph winds may present an issue throwing anything, swinging a bat is probably useless as well, the cutlass is about the only semi useful weapon here. That said, both die because Mother Nature’s a bitch rip boys.

Bwana
09-11-2018, 04:30 PM
The lawn darts win the day here. A couple solid hits, and all I have to do is wait for the blood loss to take effect.

Easy win


ROFL Yeah.......no. We are 5 feet apart. I take the Pirate cutlass, lop off your head and kick it off the top of the mountain. You won't even get a chance to toss one of your darts. You won't feel a thing. :fire:

MagicHef
09-11-2018, 04:33 PM
ROFL Yeah.......no. We are 5 feet apart. I take the Pirate cutlass, lop off your head and kick it off the top of the mountain. You won't even get a chance to toss one of your darts. You won't feel a thing. :fire:

TLO can move.

TLO
09-11-2018, 04:33 PM
ROFL Yeah.......no. We are 5 feet apart. I take the Pirate cutlass, lop off your head and kick it off the top of the mountain. You won't even get a chance to toss one of your darts. You won't feel a thing. :fire:

We're 5 feet apart and your left foot is nailed into the mountain top. You planning on cutting off that leg to come take a swing at me?

TLO
09-11-2018, 04:33 PM
TLO can move.

Exactly.

Rain Man
09-11-2018, 04:34 PM
I may have to ban lawn darts from future gladiatorial tournaments. They sound dangerous.

TLO
09-11-2018, 04:41 PM
Actual footage of Bwana trying to charge me after cutting off his own foot/leg.

https://media.giphy.com/media/12a2jqBUibjObS/giphy.webp

Dartgod
09-11-2018, 04:46 PM
TLO can move.

Exactly.

Where exactly do you think you are moving to? Take one step and you are likely plunging to your death.

https://nation.com.pk/print_images/large/2018-05-14/first-climbers-of-2018-reach-everest-summit-1526244894-7698.jpg

MagicHef
09-11-2018, 04:49 PM
Where exactly do you think you are moving to? Take one step and you are likely plunging to your death.

https://nation.com.pk/print_images/large/2018-05-14/first-climbers-of-2018-reach-everest-summit-1526244894-7698.jpg

It doesn't seem like a nail is going to find much purchase on that that surface.

Bwana
09-11-2018, 04:53 PM
Actual footage of Bwana trying to charge me after cutting off his own foot/leg.

https://media.giphy.com/media/12a2jqBUibjObS/giphy.webp


I'm not going to need to charge at "5 feet." I step forward and lean with the leg that's not nailed down to close the gap and off goes your pointed little cranium.

https://previews.123rf.com/images/algolonline/algolonline1307/algolonline130700019/21044931-illustration-of-a-viking-warrior-holding-up-the-severed-head-of-his-enemy-3d-digitally-rendered-illu.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjl2cWShbTdAhVH74MKHbjWDC0QjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.123rf.com%2Fphoto_21044931_illustration-of-a-viking-warrior-holding-up-the-severed-head-of-his-enemy-3d-digitally-rendered-illu.html&psig=AOvVaw0TuH7hYynjcxhKxFyqcitm&ust=1536792716310154)

Rain Man
09-11-2018, 04:54 PM
It doesn't seem like a nail is going to find much purchase on that that surface.

I have a dedicated team of foot nailers. I wouldn't worry about that.

threebag02
09-11-2018, 04:55 PM
Takes Loads Orally is dead meat in this one.

MagicHef
09-11-2018, 04:56 PM
I have a dedicated team of foot nailers. I wouldn't worry about that.

Can I take it that his left foot is fixed to one spot for the duration of the match regardless of the terrain?

Rain Man
09-11-2018, 05:01 PM
Can I take it that his left foot is fixed to one spot for the duration of the match regardless of the terrain?

Yep. He is nailed securely.

Dartgod
09-11-2018, 05:08 PM
Yep. He is nailed securely.

So no chance of falling to his death? Seems like an advantage to me.

Rain Man
09-11-2018, 10:01 PM
So no chance of falling to his death? Seems like an advantage to me.

Interesting point. He's anchored.

KS Smitty
09-11-2018, 10:08 PM
No way Bawan loses this one. He's secured to the mountain, he already lives at a higher altitude and if he's wearing his signature leather duster them puny lawn darts will not penetrate. Anybody voting for TLO is a fool. Nothing personal Smoke.

Sofa King
09-11-2018, 10:09 PM
How the hell is Bwana winning. Roll up behind him and beat him to death while he twists and turns with his foot immobilized. It’s not a straight head on fight... take your time to move even under TERRIBLE conditions and you’re fine.

Bwana
09-11-2018, 10:30 PM
How the hell is Bwana winning. Roll up behind him and beat him to death while he twists and turns with his foot immobilized. It’s not a straight head on fight... take your time to move even under TERRIBLE conditions and you’re fine.

How is he going to roll up from behind on something like this?

Top of the World, Mt. Everest.

https://2dbdd5116ffa30a49aa8-c03f075f8191fb4e60e74b907071aee8.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/1063290_1393272725.5659.jpg

Not happening.

Buehler445
09-11-2018, 10:39 PM
This may go to TLO depending on how accurate he can be with those lawn darts. Just stand back and fire away at the nearly immobilized Bwana.

5 feet.

Bwana. 1 swing. Ballgame kids.

TLO
09-12-2018, 10:27 AM
Need more votes

MagicHef
09-12-2018, 10:37 AM
5 feet.

Bwana. 1 swing. Ballgame kids.

One step backwards turns 5 feet into 8 or 9.

TLO
09-13-2018, 09:14 AM
I have a confession to make.

I slipped and fell off the mountain due to fear of losing. I therefore forfeit this match, and the winner is Bwana.

Rain Man
09-13-2018, 11:54 AM
I have a confession to make.

I slipped and fell off the mountain due to fear of losing. I therefore forfeit this match, and the winner is Bwana.

Once you join the tournament, the only way out is death.

TLO
09-13-2018, 11:57 AM
Once you join the tournament, the only way out is death.

Oh shit

Rain Man
09-13-2018, 11:59 AM
Oh shit

It was right there in the contract, just beneath the clause about not bringing in outside food or drinks.

Rain Man
09-15-2018, 01:24 PM
Okay, after correcting for some chicanery, TLO fell to his death, unable to secure his footing. Bwana raises his arms in victory, then pries up the nail on his foot and skis down on one good leg. Bwana to the championship.