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T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 02:24 PM
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Just a season ago, then-Kansas City Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters was thriving. He graded as the 14th best corner in the regular season at 80.7 and stymied opposing quarterbacks who dared to throw at him ó allowing a 66.0 passer rating (15th). He continued to rack up interceptions ó it was his third straight year with five or more. But after being traded to the Los Angeles Rams this past offseason, Peters has struggled amid his teamís formidable defense (and offense). In the teamís first loss to the New Orleans Saints, Petersí deficiencies were exacerbated.

Aside from the Ramsí game against the San Francisco 49ers, where he wasnít targeted all game, Peters has allowed a passer rating of 100.0 or more in six of eight games when heís the primary defender in coverage. He only had five such instances last year, and the situation appears even more concerning: He has already allowed six touchdowns, two more than he gave up in 2017, and has only one interception to show for it.

Peters was unable to control Saints wide receiver, Michael Thomas. After allowing six catches on eight targets to Thomas ranging anywhere from seven to 19 yards, Peters was beaten big when it mattered most late in the fourth quarter. Thomas simply ran past Peters in press coverage, and quarterback Drew Brees threw over Petersí head into Thomasí waiting arms for a 72-yard score that was the final dagger to the previously undefeated Rams.

The Rams donít have much to worry about at 8-1, but Petersí uncharacteristic poor play could become a decisive factor come playoff time. Heís matched up against big-name receivers thus far: Thomas (90.7 grade), Davante Adams (82.5 grade) and Adam Thielen (90.8 grade). Itís a likely possibility that heíll have to go another round against at least one of them when January rolls around. In the past two weeks, Peters has been targeted 20 times ó tied for the most among cornerbacks in that span. Opposing quarterbacks have clearly taken notice his downfall.

That raises the obvious question: What changed for Marcus Peters? Or rather, what changed around Marcus Peters? For one, the big-play receivers heís followed this year are seeing more targets (and more accurate targets) than the ones he stuck with a year ago. For example, in 2017, Antonio Brown was targeted just three times in Petersí coverage for a measly two receptions for 14 yards. Brown finished with eight catches for 155 yards and a touchdown in that game, so clearly, Peters was at his best. DeVante Parker was targeted seven times against Peters in 2017, but only four were deemed catchable, and just two were caught.

This year, heís seen nine targets (seven catchable) against Thomas, six (five catchable) against Adams and four (three catchable) against Thielen. In other words, NFC quarterbacks are testing Peters more than ever before with accurate throws, and heís not coming away with interceptions, or success in general, at the rate heís been used to.

In his rookie year, Peters was targeted a league-high 137 times (and he was the most targeted cornerback from 2015-2017). Peters had nine picks that year despite allowing eight touchdowns, compared to just one interception this season. Also, he only allowed opposing signal-callers to complete 50.4% of those throws in his coverage. This season, that number has ballooned to 72.3%. As for why the discrepancy between that year and this year exists is hard to say. But it appears that Petersí move to the NFC may have something to do with it.

Through nine weeks, Peters has a 45.6 grade which ranks 106th of 111 cornerbacks, and his near-perfect passer rating allowed of 145.6 is 107th. :eek: Heís also already allowed more yards in coverage this year than in all of 2017. Itís been a staggering tumble from stardom for him ó but itís truly the best-case scenario as he attempts to make the climb back to glory. His team is considered a title contender and his offense and defensive line are playing lights out. Now, itís a matter of whether Peters can get right in the next seven weeks before his team has to prove itself in a playoff run.


https://media.profootballfocus.com/2018/11/USATSI_11597211.jpg?w=916&h=720 Giving up another touchdown.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-what-happened-to-marcus-peters

wazu
11-06-2018, 02:27 PM
No longer has the benefit of Bob Sutton’s genius.

DJJasonp
11-06-2018, 02:28 PM
No longer has the benefit of Bob Suttonís genius.

.....beat me to it!

MIAdragon
11-06-2018, 02:28 PM
#notourproblemanymore

T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 02:29 PM
#notourproblemanymore

No, but the Chiefs will be his problem on Nov. 19. ROFL

suzzer99
11-06-2018, 02:29 PM
MOAR PETERS THREADS!

luv
11-06-2018, 02:29 PM
I was actually sad to see him go. Now, not so much.

T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 02:31 PM
MOAR PETERS THREADS!

YAS PLEEZE!

T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 02:32 PM
No longer has the benefit of Bob Suttonís genius.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

SuperBowl4
11-06-2018, 02:32 PM
I would love to see the RAMS cut him. So glad the CHIEFS traded MP out of KC. MP's uniform is always clean at the end of a game.

SuperBowl4
11-06-2018, 02:33 PM
I was actually sad to see him go. Now, not so much.You still liked him after the GIANTS game last season? :facepalm:

T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 02:34 PM
I would love to see the RAMS cut him. So glad the CHIEFS traded MP out of KC. MP's uniform is always clean at the end of a game.

http://www.askaboutsports.com/images/bull-fighting/bullfight-bsp-23708306-500x390.jpg

MVChiefFan
11-06-2018, 02:37 PM
No longer has the benefit of Bob Suttonís genius.

ROFL

Thatís the first thing I thought about when I started reading. Heís the ONLY player that actually thrives in his system.

Detoxing
11-06-2018, 02:39 PM
I think it's pretty clear now that we have the luxury of hindsight.

The Chiefs were primarily a zone coverage scheme these past few seasons. This is why Peters forced so many turnovers, being able to play zone, read and react. The Chiefs emphasized all off season how they wanted to play man coverage.

Peters isn't a good man coverage corner and his season with the Rams, who want to play press, is illustrating that.

Couple that with his abrasive personalty and big pay day coming due, the Chiefs parted ways.

chinaski
11-06-2018, 02:40 PM
There is a Corner named Marcus
Who created a media circus
He sat for the anthem
Threw all kinds of tantrums
Now his career’s in the doldrums

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 02:43 PM
Deangelo Hall knows.

I've said it.

He's not a press/man corner. He wasn't good at it in KC, and he wasn't making plays like that. He's a read and react guy who works best in off coverage. That's been the case his entire KC career.

He's a square peg and Wade's scheme is a round hole. Wade should adapt, because Peters isn't going to suddenly become a press man corner who can shadow around the field. That's not his game.

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 02:45 PM
I think it's pretty clear now that we have the luxury of hindsight.

The Chiefs were primarily a zone coverage scheme these past few seasons. This is why Peters forced so many turnovers, being able to play zone, read and react. The Chiefs emphasized all off season how they wanted to play man coverage.

Peters isn't a good man coverage corner and his season with the Rams, who want to play press, is illustrating that.

Couple that with his abrasive personalty and big pay day coming due, the Chiefs parted ways.

Peters can play man just fine, but keep him on the OUTSIDE and let him play OFF.

If he can see and diagnose the play, he can stay ahead of the route. Peters isn't a freak athlete corner who runs a 4.2 and bases his game on lightning quick reactions to WR movements.

He's still a guy that will get beat a times, but at least this way he'll be taking the ball away more.

it's not just hindsight. I told people he wouldn't fit in Wade's scheme when the trade happened and the general response was 'Sutton sucks and wade is good, therefor you're stupid."

Well...

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-06-2018, 02:46 PM
FYI Steve Nelson is the 14th best corner in football this year per PFF...

ptlyon
11-06-2018, 02:46 PM
I think he's just hitting the bong too much

BigCatDaddy
11-06-2018, 02:47 PM
Became more interested in being a side show than football player.

jjchieffan
11-06-2018, 02:47 PM
No longer has the benefit of Bob Suttonís genius.

I know that this is a joke. But it is interesting how the 2 best corners that we've had in recent years have sucked after they left KC. The other corner being Sean Smith. And really, Smith wasn't all that great in Miami before he became a Chief. Many of us wondered why we signed him. But he turned out to be very good for KC. Then he left for Chokeland and sucked. Now, Scandrick is looking much better in this system than he has in recent seasons. I can't explain why that has been the case.

ptlyon
11-06-2018, 02:49 PM
I know that this is a joke. But it is interesting how the 2 best corners that we've had in recent years have sucked after they left KC. The other corner being Sean Smith. And really, Smith wasn't all that great in Miami before he became a Chief. Many of us wondered why we signed him. But he turned out to be very good for KC. Then he left for Chokeland and sucked. Now, Scandrick is looking much better in this system than he has in recent seasons. I can't explain why that has been the case.

California dreamin, man

Detoxing
11-06-2018, 02:51 PM
Also, with the Rams he's shadowing #1's, which he was not doing in KC. In KC, opposing offenses moved their #1 around to create the ideal matchup.

T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 02:51 PM
I know that this is a joke. But it is interesting how the 2 best corners that we've had in recent years have sucked after they left KC. The other corner being Sean Smith. And really, Smith wasn't all that great in Miami before he became a Chief. Many of us wondered why we signed him. But he turned out to be very good for KC. Then he left for Chokeland and sucked. Now, Scandrick is looking much better in this system than he has in recent seasons. I can't explain why that has been the case.

The list of corners that have struggled here under Sutton might be longer than those that thrived. (Maybe that's true of most teams? I don't know.) If only we could add to the list of safeties that thrive here under Sutton. :(

Dayze
11-06-2018, 02:52 PM
maybe because xxxxxxxx yyy xxxxx yyyyyyyyyy xxxxxxx yyyyy xx.

(not mater what is said, the reason will be racist.)

Detoxing
11-06-2018, 02:52 PM
Peters can play man just fine, but keep him on the OUTSIDE and let him play OFF.

If he can see and diagnose the play, he can stay ahead of the route. Peters isn't a freak athlete corner who runs a 4.2 and bases his game on lightning quick reactions to WR movements.

He's still a guy that will get beat a times, but at least this way he'll be taking the ball away more.

it's not just hindsight. I told people he wouldn't fit in Wade's scheme when the trade happened and the general response was 'Sutton sucks and wade is good, therefor you're stupid."

Well...

agreed

T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 02:56 PM
maybe because xxxxxxxx yyy xxxxx yyyyyyyyyy xxxxxxx yyyyy xx.

(not mater what is said, the reason will be racist.)

Nazi bastard! :D

Hammock Parties
11-06-2018, 02:56 PM
It's actually completely wrong that the Chiefs were a zone team with Peters.

https://media.profootballfocus.com/2017/10/Man-Coverage_2017.png

1. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Man Coverage Rate: 63.5 percent

No team plays more man-coverage than the Chiefs. The Chiefs use Cover-1 (man coverage with a single-high safety) as their staple coverage, and run it more than any other side. They have allowed three passing touchdowns in this coverage shell and five touchdowns in man coverage overall, allowing just 50 percent of the passes thrown against their man coverage to be caught.

But what I'm guessing is that the Rams are barely playing any off-man coverage, which allowed Peters to read the QB and give a cushion on deep balls. If he's just playing straight bump and run most of the time he's going to get toasted by guys who are faster than he is.

I also see they're putting Peters in the slot, and the Chiefs NEVER did that IIRC.

Imon Yourside
11-06-2018, 02:57 PM
Peters only plays good pissed off, i'm telling you that's what is missing.

rabblerouser
11-06-2018, 02:59 PM
Bob Sutton really knew how to get the best out of him?

It was Sutton's Scheme!!

ROFL

scho63
11-06-2018, 03:01 PM
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Mecca
11-06-2018, 03:11 PM
What's weird is I checked out the new Simms and Lefkoe podcast today and he basically said this take that Peters sucks is completely misguided and that from watching his film he isn't even bad.

It's that the Rams are asking him to do stuff that maybe 5 guys in the game can do and you will get beat when you are put in those spots.

But anyone it should be checked out instead of taking my word for it. It's right around the hour point of todays show when they talk about the Saints/Rams game.

T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 03:16 PM
What's weird is I checked out the new Simms and Lefkoe podcast today and he basically said this take that Peters sucks is completely misguided and that from watching his film he isn't even bad.

It's that the Rams are asking him to do stuff that maybe 5 guys in the game can do and you will get beat when you are put in those spots.

But anyone it should be checked out instead of taking my word for it. It's right around the hour point of todays show when they talk about the Saints/Rams game.

Underpaid Peters' apologists. Damn them & their communist propaganda. :cuss:

BryanBusby
11-06-2018, 03:18 PM
What's weird is I checked out the new Simms and Lefkoe podcast today and he basically said this take that Peters sucks is completely misguided and that from watching his film he isn't even bad.

It's that the Rams are asking him to do stuff that maybe 5 guys in the game can do and you will get beat when you are put in those spots.

But anyone it should be checked out instead of taking my word for it. It's right around the hour point of todays show when they talk about the Saints/Rams game.
They asked a self-proclaimed elite corner to do elite corner responsibilities? Those bastards!

rabblerouser
11-06-2018, 03:32 PM
maybe because xxxxxxxx yyy xxxxx yyyyyyyyyy xxxxxxx yyyyy xx.

(not mater what is said, the reason will be racist.)

Duh. Because EVERYTHING on CP is raysussed.

T-post Tom
11-06-2018, 03:36 PM
Duh. Because EVERYTHING on CP is raysussed.

That's a politically charged thing to say on election day! Extra bonus points, congratulations. :clap:

rico
11-06-2018, 03:55 PM
What happened to Peters?! Well... I think it’s obvious.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/2468-raperaperaperaperaperaperape-5bc928.jpg

He’s suffering from a bad case of PeTerSDolphins

Kiimosabi
11-06-2018, 03:59 PM
Duh. Because EVERYTHING on CP is raysussed.

Well there's a lot of dipshit racists on here so what did you expect

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 04:04 PM
What's weird is I checked out the new Simms and Lefkoe podcast today and he basically said this take that Peters sucks is completely misguided and that from watching his film he isn't even bad.

It's that the Rams are asking him to do stuff that maybe 5 guys in the game can do and you will get beat when you are put in those spots.

But anyone it should be checked out instead of taking my word for it. It's right around the hour point of todays show when they talk about the Saints/Rams game.

YES.

Asking a guy to shadow the other teams top WR in press man coverage takes a special type of player.

Peters is good at things. He's not being asked to do those things. He's being asked to do things like he's Revis or Deion freaking Sanders. He's not. He was never a shut down man corner. He was a reacting playmaking corner.

Basileus777
11-06-2018, 04:04 PM
What's weird is I checked out the new Simms and Lefkoe podcast today and he basically said this take that Peters sucks is completely misguided and that from watching his film he isn't even bad.

It's that the Rams are asking him to do stuff that maybe 5 guys in the game can do and you will get beat when you are put in those spots.

But anyone it should be checked out instead of taking my word for it. It's right around the hour point of todays show when they talk about the Saints/Rams game.
I watched this too, but it ends up more of an indictment of the coaching staff than anything. If he's been asked to do things that are beyond his abilities and your defense is largely getting scorched, someone is fucking up.

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 04:08 PM
I watched this too, but it ends up more of an indictment of the coaching staff than anything. If he's been asked to do things that are beyond his abilities and your defense is largely getting scorched, someone is ****ing up.

Well, Wade does what Wade likes to do. He's an established and very successful DC, and he's probably not going to alter the entire philosophy of his defense for one player. Who knows what kind of chain effect that could have on the rest?

Though as much as that group has underachieved with the talent they have, he might try switching things up.

displacedinMN
11-06-2018, 04:14 PM
Head is too big for his helmet.

done.

Iowanian
11-06-2018, 04:17 PM
I hope his biggest problem is snot bubbles clouding his vision in Mexico City because the Chiefs know he's a punk and run power sweeps his way 15 times.

I'd love to see TEs and pulling guards and the sausage clearing a path to his side and watch him get driven into the dirt by 27....and then seal his meltdown by Mahomes throwing rockets over his head 10-15 additional plays.

His problem is he's a selfish punk, just like I suggested when he was here. So glad he's gone.

Hog's Gone Fishin
11-06-2018, 04:29 PM
I hope his biggest problem is snot bubbles clouding his vision in Mexico City because the Chiefs know he's a punk and run power sweeps his way 15 times.

I'd love to see TEs and pulling guards and the sausage clearing a path to his side and watch him get driven into the dirt by 27....and then seal his meltdown by Mahomes throwing rockets over his head 10-15 additional plays.

His problem is he's a selfish punk, just like I suggested when he was here. So glad he's gone.

I agree with all of this. Great post Iowanian!

srvy
11-06-2018, 04:40 PM
What's weird is I checked out the new Simms and Lefkoe podcast today and he basically said this take that Peters sucks is completely misguided and that from watching his film he isn't even bad.

It's that the Rams are asking him to do stuff that maybe 5 guys in the game can do and you will get beat when you are put in those spots.

But anyone it should be checked out instead of taking my word for it. It's right around the hour point of todays show when they talk about the Saints/Rams game.

ROFL

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StinkBox
11-06-2018, 05:53 PM
this...

Peters' is a useless twat. He's a cancer to his teammates, coaches and anyone he comes into contact with in life.

My son played college ball with his sorry ass. What you're seeing right now is a reprieve from the true person he really is as a human being. The only reason he's being "nice" is for his own well being. That scumbag does not give a rat's ass about anyone but himself.

If you don't believe me...watch and learn the hard way.

Pablo
11-06-2018, 06:01 PM
He broke his standin' bone when he was here with the Chiefs. Still hasn't fully recovered.

PHOG
11-06-2018, 06:11 PM
Nothing, he's always been a headcase :rolleyes:

Flying High D
11-06-2018, 06:22 PM
maybe because xxxxxxxx yyy xxxxx yyyyyyyyyy xxxxxxx yyyyy xx.

(not mater what is said, the reason will be racist.)

Nailed it. Somebody will get their pussy hurt. Pussies

Easy 6
11-06-2018, 06:26 PM
He clearly showed up in KC with the right mindset, he was thankful and realized the risk the team took in bringing him aboard... he was glad to be in the NFL, he was ready to listen

And that coachability brought him great success

But that success eventually wore that mindset down, to the point that he figured he didnt need anyone else to be great, he didnt need to listen anymore

He was Marcus ****ing Peters now

It was always going to happen no matter which team took a shot on him, dudes just a natural hotheaded malcontent, its always going to be someone else' fault with him

The Man, bad coaching, redneck fans, etc etc etc

Those of us who were glad to see him go have been proven correct

Well bye, again (again)

Randallflagg
11-06-2018, 06:34 PM
https://media.profootballfocus.com/2018/11/Marcus-Peters-%E2%80%94-Passer-rating-allowed-1024x576.png

Just a season ago, then-Kansas City Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters was thriving. He graded as the 14th best corner in the regular season at 80.7 and stymied opposing quarterbacks who dared to throw at him ó allowing a 66.0 passer rating (15th). He continued to rack up interceptions ó it was his third straight year with five or more. But after being traded to the Los Angeles Rams this past offseason, Peters has struggled amid his teamís formidable defense (and offense). In the teamís first loss to the New Orleans Saints, Petersí deficiencies were exacerbated.

Aside from the Ramsí game against the San Francisco 49ers, where he wasnít targeted all game, Peters has allowed a passer rating of 100.0 or more in six of eight games when heís the primary defender in coverage. He only had five such instances last year, and the situation appears even more concerning: He has already allowed six touchdowns, two more than he gave up in 2017, and has only one interception to show for it.

Peters was unable to control Saints wide receiver, Michael Thomas. After allowing six catches on eight targets to Thomas ranging anywhere from seven to 19 yards, Peters was beaten big when it mattered most late in the fourth quarter. Thomas simply ran past Peters in press coverage, and quarterback Drew Brees threw over Petersí head into Thomasí waiting arms for a 72-yard score that was the final dagger to the previously undefeated Rams.

The Rams donít have much to worry about at 8-1, but Petersí uncharacteristic poor play could become a decisive factor come playoff time. Heís matched up against big-name receivers thus far: Thomas (90.7 grade), Davante Adams (82.5 grade) and Adam Thielen (90.8 grade). Itís a likely possibility that heíll have to go another round against at least one of them when January rolls around. In the past two weeks, Peters has been targeted 20 times ó tied for the most among cornerbacks in that span. Opposing quarterbacks have clearly taken notice his downfall.

That raises the obvious question: What changed for Marcus Peters? Or rather, what changed around Marcus Peters? For one, the big-play receivers heís followed this year are seeing more targets (and more accurate targets) than the ones he stuck with a year ago. For example, in 2017, Antonio Brown was targeted just three times in Petersí coverage for a measly two receptions for 14 yards. Brown finished with eight catches for 155 yards and a touchdown in that game, so clearly, Peters was at his best. DeVante Parker was targeted seven times against Peters in 2017, but only four were deemed catchable, and just two were caught.

This year, heís seen nine targets (seven catchable) against Thomas, six (five catchable) against Adams and four (three catchable) against Thielen. In other words, NFC quarterbacks are testing Peters more than ever before with accurate throws, and heís not coming away with interceptions, or success in general, at the rate heís been used to.

In his rookie year, Peters was targeted a league-high 137 times (and he was the most targeted cornerback from 2015-2017). Peters had nine picks that year despite allowing eight touchdowns, compared to just one interception this season. Also, he only allowed opposing signal-callers to complete 50.4% of those throws in his coverage. This season, that number has ballooned to 72.3%. As for why the discrepancy between that year and this year exists is hard to say. But it appears that Petersí move to the NFC may have something to do with it.

Through nine weeks, Peters has a 45.6 grade which ranks 106th of 111 cornerbacks, and his near-perfect passer rating allowed of 145.6 is 107th. :eek: Heís also already allowed more yards in coverage this year than in all of 2017. Itís been a staggering tumble from stardom for him ó but itís truly the best-case scenario as he attempts to make the climb back to glory. His team is considered a title contender and his offense and defensive line are playing lights out. Now, itís a matter of whether Peters can get right in the next seven weeks before his team has to prove itself in a playoff run.


https://media.profootballfocus.com/2018/11/USATSI_11597211.jpg?w=916&h=720 Giving up another touchdown.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-what-happened-to-marcus-peters

What happened to Peters? Simple - Hollywood.

wazu
11-06-2018, 06:36 PM
He clearly showed up in KC with the right mindset, he was thankful and realized the risk the team took in bringing him aboard... he was glad to be in the NFL, he was ready to listen

And that coachability brought him great success

But that success eventually wore that mindset down, to the point that he figured he didnt need anyone else to be great, he didnt need to listen anymore

He was Marcus ****ing Peters now

It was always going to happen no matter which team took a shot on him, dudes just a natural hotheaded malcontent, its always going to be someone else' fault with him

The Man, bad coaching, redneck fans, etc etc etc

Those of us who were glad to see him go have been proven correct

Well bye, again (again)

He was absolutely holding himself fully accountable after the game Sunday. It was actually a pretty impressive interview and he faced the music. Blamed himself for not playing well and vowed to fix it.

Flying High D
11-06-2018, 06:38 PM
What is he doing during the Anthem? Forget during the game, let’s get to the important things.

rabblerouser
11-06-2018, 06:49 PM
It's that the Rams are asking him to do stuff that maybe 5 guys in the game can do and you will get beat when you are put in those spots.



So what I'm seeing here is...Marcus Peters was never a top 5 CB, but Bob Sutton put him in a position to take full advantage of his talents??

Easy 6
11-06-2018, 06:50 PM
He was absolutely holding himself fully accountable after the game Sunday. It was actually a pretty impressive interview and he faced the music. Blamed himself for not playing well and vowed to fix it.

I watched it, not buying it... lets see him walk the talk

rabblerouser
11-06-2018, 06:51 PM
What is he doing during the Anthem? Forget during the game, let’s get to the important things.

The usual - slapping his mom, choking a coach, kicking a flag, threatening the life of a team bus driver, etc.

He's a true piece of shit, both on the field and off of it.

Fuck Marcus Peters.

BWillie
11-06-2018, 07:04 PM
He's a ball hawking CB like Talib - not a shut down corner. So when he doesn't get interceptions - he's not going to grade well. So basically - he's overrated.

Superturtle
11-06-2018, 07:27 PM
He was absolutely holding himself fully accountable after the game Sunday. It was actually a pretty impressive interview and he faced the music. Blamed himself for not playing well and vowed to fix it.
Maybe if he adopted that attitude during the game instead of pouting, bitching at the refs, and harassing his own teammates I'd actually believe a single word out of his mouth.

R Clark
11-06-2018, 08:19 PM
Clay is right he was in man coverage most of the time , iowanians post is spot on .mecca is way wrong on this one and I agree with a lot of his post . But to be honest I have taken a substantial amount of bourbon tonight,hell it bout done me in to agree with clay.Bottom line as bad as we suck in are secondary still better off with this shit stain gone. And don't forget how many threw a fit when we dumped this ass hole. Ok Iam done with my drunken rant I most likely won't post for another 5-6 years ,it's better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt .ive successfully removed it , but what the hell 8and1 Go Chiefs !!!!!!!

Couch-Potato
11-06-2018, 08:25 PM
He broke his standin' bone when he was here with the Chiefs. Still hasn't fully recovered.

I had heard he was nursing an injury as well, but not sure a broken hand justifies such bad CB play?

bsroyals54
11-06-2018, 08:35 PM
Marcus Peters is a fiery, angry, competitive, and emotional guy. Maybe he doesn't play with any hatred like he did here in KC. Didn't he get all uptight about black people dying to police gunfire or some shit? And didn't stand for the anthem during all that dumb bullshit. In LA, you can guarantee it is different there. Whatever reason it is, I'm glad he sucks for another team instead of the Chiefs.

PHOG
11-06-2018, 08:35 PM
Clay is right he was in man coverage most of the time , iowanians post is spot on .mecca is way wrong on this one and I agree with a lot of his post . But to be honest I have taken a substantial amount of bourbon tonight,hell it bout done me in to agree with clay.Bottom line as bad as we suck in are secondary still better off with this shit stain gone. And don't forget how many threw a fit when we dumped this ass hole. Ok Iam done with my drunken rant I most likely won't post for another 5-6 years ,it's better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt .ive successfully removed it , but what the hell 8and1 Go Chiefs !!!!!!!
Excellent post, couldn't agree more

CoMoChief
11-06-2018, 08:37 PM
Surprisingly the Chiefs are winning that trade.

He's playing like ass this season.

Still wish Veach did a better job in replacing him though.

Tyreek Hill is going to make him look like a fool. Actually Peters may not even line up against him, will probably cover Watkins instead, Rams aren't that fuckin dumb.

KCTitus
11-06-2018, 08:58 PM
KC got the best Peters could offer and sold high...

rabblerouser
11-06-2018, 09:27 PM
KC got the best Peters could offer and sold high...

Absolutely, been saying that since the moment they traded him.

Fuck Marcus Peters.

KChiefs1
11-06-2018, 10:05 PM
Surprisingly the Chiefs are winning that trade.

He's playing like ass this season.

Still wish Veach did a better job in replacing him though.

Tyreek Hill is going to make him look like a fool. Actually Peters may not even line up against him, will probably cover Watkins instead, Rams aren't that fuckin dumb.



Rams have to be wondering WTF.


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Mecca
11-06-2018, 10:11 PM
Clay is right he was in man coverage most of the time , iowanians post is spot on .mecca is way wrong on this one and I agree with a lot of his post . But to be honest I have taken a substantial amount of bourbon tonight,hell it bout done me in to agree with clay.Bottom line as bad as we suck in are secondary still better off with this shit stain gone. And don't forget how many threw a fit when we dumped this ass hole. Ok Iam done with my drunken rant I most likely won't post for another 5-6 years ,it's better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt .ive successfully removed it , but what the hell 8and1 Go Chiefs !!!!!!!

I said what Chris Simms said on a podcast, go check it out before you tell me I'm wrong for giving someone who reviews tape and gives his opinion as a job.

Sound like a good idea, I dunno considering you seemed to miss what my whole post was about.

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 10:11 PM
So what I'm seeing here is...Marcus Peters was never a top 5 CB, but Bob Sutton put him in a position to take full advantage of his talents??

I'm saying he's a top 5 corner IF you use him right.

Richard Sherman never did that shit, and for good reason. Yet he was incredibly effective in his role.

He, also, wasn't revis.

I'm sorry, but proper utilization of Peters is like a guaranteed 6-8 picks a year. It's not trash. He's not a SHUTDOWN corner, which is an over-rated and rarely live-up-to label from press man corners. HE's a READ and REACT PLAYMAKING corner.

My biggest problem with him was his half assed tackling (something he was actually good at as a rookie AND in college, so the ability is and was there) and his rather shitty attitude and penchant for quitting when things got tough. His mental toughness did not impress. His ability to diagnose route combinations and make plays on the ball (even when the ball wasn't thrown to his man) was incredible.

IowaHawkeyeChief
11-06-2018, 10:15 PM
I'm saying he's a top 5 corner IF you use him right.

Richard Sherman never did that shit, and for good reason. Yet he was incredibly effective in his role.

He, also, wasn't revis.

I'm sorry, but proper utilization of Peters is like a guaranteed 6-8 picks a year. It's not trash. He's not a SHUTDOWN corner, which is an over-rated and rarely live-up-to label from press man corners. HE's a READ and REACT PLAYMAKING corner.

My biggest problem with him was his half assed tackling (something he was actually good at as a rookie AND in college, so the ability is and was there) and his rather shitty attitude and penchant for quitting when things got tough. His mental toughness did not impress. His ability to diagnose route combinations and make plays on the ball (even when the ball wasn't thrown to his man) was incredible.

you forgot shitty tackler and shitty teammate...

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 10:16 PM
I said what Chris Simms said on a podcast, go check it out before you tell me I'm wrong for giving someone who reviews tape and gives his opinion as a job.

Sound like a good idea, I dunno considering you seemed to miss what my whole post was about.

Everything I've ever said about Peters is correct.

And Chris Simms essentially just sat there and agreed with me. Deangelo Hall said the same ****ing thing. He's being misused.

Go watch all of Peters INT's in KC, and look for yourself how he did it. Anyone can. I'm not wrong. At all.

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 10:19 PM
you forgot shitty tackler and shitty teammate...

I don't think I forgot either of those things. HIs shit attitude and shit tackling are mentioned.

I also mentioned his penchant for quitting on the team when HE is having a bad game.

Berry had to retrieve that bitch after he tantrumed off to the locker room AT LEAST three times. ****ing embarrassing. Be an adult. "Oh Peters lost his shit again, Hey Eric, can you go handle that?"

Ridiculous. I've never seen a player do that.

The Jets game wasn't the first time he quit on the team. Berry just used to go back and talk him into coming back onto the field and often it wasn't noticed. If you were at the game, you noticed. Even George blowfish mentioned it more than once in his weekly '10 things' posts.

pugsnotdrugs19
11-06-2018, 10:31 PM
I haven’t read through much of this thread at all, but here’s what we know.

The Chiefs played a TON of man when MP was here. He played off a lot while others pressed more. He read the QB a lot in man coverage, which is a major no-no. Eyes are supposed to be on the WR in man. This is why he got burned on double moves plenty, but also picked off many passes.

The more that time passes by and the more that we see him play poorly in this Rams scheme, the more I believe that his freelancing style of play may have had a huge hand in him being shipped out of KC.

I don’t think we’ll see the old version of Marcus Peters unless a team is willing to let him play his own style of off coverage on a down to down basis.

New World Order
11-06-2018, 11:09 PM
He's gotta be hurt

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 11:09 PM
I haven’t read through much of this thread at all, but here’s what we know.

The Chiefs played a TON of man when MP was here. He played off a lot while others pressed more. He read the QB a lot in man coverage, which is a major no-no. Eyes are supposed to be on the WR in man. This is why he got burned on double moves plenty, but also picked off many passes.

The more that time passes by and the more that we see him play poorly in this Rams scheme, the more I believe that his freelancing style of play may have had a huge hand in him being shipped out of KC.

I don’t think we’ll see the old version of Marcus Peters unless a team is willing to let him play his own style of off coverage on a down to down basis.

Rod Woodson spent years as an all pro corner playing off and reading the QB. It's why he was so natural converting to Safety after his knees were shot (thanks Barry Sanders).

It's not a big 'no no' to read the QB in off coverage regardless of the man/zone assignment. It's the entire point.

However, it's not really ideal for man coverage. KC did run a lot of cover 1 with peters playing off and the opposite CB in press. Let's not pretend this was a disaster for KC. The problems Peters presented were in his shit tackling and trash attitude.

It's a problem that Peters is so one dimensional, but the funny thing is that when KC drafted him all the 'draft gurus' said KC was MISUSING him by playing him in off coverage rather than press... and he was a pretty good press/physical corner in college... but in the NFL.. he's athletically outmatched. I mean Peters is what? A 4.56 guy? He basically ran the same time as Brandon Flowers.

Edit: Sorry. Peters ran a 4.53.

Katie
11-06-2018, 11:18 PM
He's a punk. Sooner or later it catches up to you.

WhiteWhale
11-06-2018, 11:27 PM
He's a punk. Sooner or later it catches up to you.

Simple, succinct, and accurate.

Al Czervik
11-07-2018, 12:28 AM
Sooooooo happy Peter's is no longer a Chief.
The POS doesnt DESERVE to wear the Red and Gold.

Nickhead
11-07-2018, 01:35 AM
what happened to marcus...

he tripped over his own feet :thumb:

TwistedChief
11-07-2018, 03:40 AM
The Mahomes Curse.

Players leave the Mahomes Orbit on bad terms and spontaneously combust. It's just not really widely reported most of the time.

rabblerouser
11-07-2018, 06:01 AM
Rod Woodson spent years as an all pro corner playing off and reading the QB. It's why he was so natural converting to Safety after his knees were shot (thanks Barry Sanders).



Normally, a player doesn't literally juke someone out of their shoes, as the saying goes. But Barry was so smooth and shifty, even Hall of Fame defenders stood no chance.

Woodson returned in time for the Super Bowl, though.

Flying High D
11-07-2018, 06:49 AM
I don't think I forgot either of those things. HIs shit attitude and shit tackling are mentioned.

I also mentioned his penchant for quitting on the team when HE is having a bad game.

Berry had to retrieve that bitch after he tantrumed off to the locker room AT LEAST three times. ****ing embarrassing. Be an adult. "Oh Peters lost his shit again, Hey Eric, can you go handle that?"

Ridiculous. I've never seen a player do that.

The Jets game wasn't the first time he quit on the team. Berry just used to go back and talk him into coming back onto the field and often it wasn't noticed. If you were at the game, you noticed. Even George blowfish mentioned it more than once in his weekly '10 things' posts.

Trade EB to LA for a half eaten tuna sandwich. Win Win LA can have MPís babysitter.

bowener
11-07-2018, 10:01 AM
I think it's pretty clear now that we have the luxury of hindsight.

The Chiefs were primarily a zone coverage scheme these past few seasons. This is why Peters forced so many turnovers, being able to play zone, read and react. The Chiefs emphasized all off season how they wanted to play man coverage.

Peters isn't a good man coverage corner and his season with the Rams, who want to play press, is illustrating that.

Couple that with his abrasive personalty and big pay day coming due, the Chiefs parted ways.

While you are technically correct, the best kind of correct, the Chiefs ran man 46.3% of the time in 2017, which was more than any other team in the league.

A big problem for Peters appears to be the lack of safety help that Berry provided him. It allowed him to go for the big play knowing he had a stud behind him to clean up if he whiffed.

BTW, in 2016 we ran man coverage 48.9% of the time, which was 2nd only to Tennessee by .7%.

Hammock Parties
11-07-2018, 11:40 AM
We are gonna beat the Rams.

That punk HC, QB and CB don't have shit on this squad.

Goff is going to shit his pants.

We're going to take that squad to school.

Iowanian
11-07-2018, 11:45 AM
Gurley might rush for 200yds vs this defense....Chiefs will need to score 42 to win.

Flying High D
11-07-2018, 11:49 AM
Gurley Smurley

Iowanian
11-07-2018, 12:15 PM
This defense has allowed pretty big numbers from mediocre running backs. Gurley is an animal.

Flying High D
11-07-2018, 12:17 PM
We are the Chiefs, ie we have Mahomes.