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Marcellus
11-16-2018, 09:20 PM
Interesting interview with Dee Ford on 610 today talking his injury history and some other things.

https://610sports.radio.com/media/audio-channel/1116-dee-ford-interview-hearing-criticism


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Simply Red
11-16-2018, 09:52 PM
love that guy - I told you guys he was finally healthy!

Buns
11-16-2018, 10:39 PM
He actually sounds like an awesome guy.

Sofa King
11-16-2018, 10:46 PM
Seems like a decent dude.

TEX
11-16-2018, 10:53 PM
love that guy - I told you guys he was finally healthy!

Contract year. Buyer BEWARE!

Id Franchise him and see if his back holds up next season before I give him a big contract.

KChiefs1
11-16-2018, 11:22 PM
Franchise him.

Deberg_1990
11-16-2018, 11:29 PM
Dat first step!

Simply Red
11-16-2018, 11:33 PM
Contract year. Buyer BEWARE!

Id Franchise him and see if his back holds up next season before I give him a big contract.

yip.

carcosa
11-16-2018, 11:36 PM
doesn't he play piano

Simply Red
11-16-2018, 11:38 PM
doesn't he play piano

yip - I'm aroused - he's pretty slick.

Simply Red
11-16-2018, 11:48 PM
The end of it makes me fully question Berry's return though, maybe I'm reading too much into that. :shrug:

Naptown Chief
11-16-2018, 11:53 PM
love that guy - I told you guys he was finally healthy!

I said all off-season that he'd have a monster year.

Naptown Chief
11-16-2018, 11:54 PM
Franchise him.

Agreed. Make him have another monster year in 2019 if he wants to get paid

Simply Red
11-16-2018, 11:58 PM
I said all off-season that he'd have a monster year.

so did I

Naptown Chief
11-16-2018, 11:59 PM
so did I

Yes you did. Thank goodness we were right.

007
11-17-2018, 12:00 AM
Contract year. Buyer BEWARE!

Id Franchise him and see if his back holds up next season before I give him a big contract.

Considering the Houston and Berry contracts, I hope the Chiefs have learned their lesson.

oldman
11-17-2018, 08:36 AM
Contract year. Buyer BEWARE!

Id Franchise him and see if his back holds up next season before I give him a big contract.

I've never been sold on him, but if we think Houston won't hold up, this is the smart move.

Buckweath
11-17-2018, 11:05 AM
I don't think the Chiefs will ever give him a big contract, unless it is that type of contract which allow you to release the player after two years or something like that.

By the time he will have played on the franchise tag, he will be 28 years old and I dont think Veach at that point would give him a long term contract with big money guaranteed.

pugsnotdrugs19
11-17-2018, 11:13 AM
Have to tag him at this rate IMO. Nothing more, nothing less.

nychief
11-17-2018, 11:16 AM
Have to tag him at this rate IMO. Nothing more, nothing less.



You tag him and let him play they year on the tag.

Mecca
11-17-2018, 11:17 AM
Considering the Houston and Berry contracts, I hope the Chiefs have learned their lesson.

I think this situation is different, those guys were always productive. Ford looks like your classic late bloomer, it'd really suck to have him leave and watch him throw up 5-7 years of great play for another team after he was developed here.

pugsnotdrugs19
11-17-2018, 11:26 AM
I think this situation is different, those guys were always productive. Ford looks like your classic late bloomer, it'd really suck to have him leave and watch him throw up 5-7 years of great play for another team after he was developed here.

Much like a Brandon Graham in Philadelphia.

If we knew that he would stay healthy for idk, 80+% of a new extension, I’d sign him today. Injuries are my only concern.

Naptown Chief
11-17-2018, 12:08 PM
Much like a Brandon Graham in Philadelphia.

If we knew that he would stay healthy for idk, 80+% of a new extension, Iíd sign him today. Injuries are my only concern.

Can't we tag him twice and then transition or something? Isn't that what the Steelers have been doing to Bell?

pugsnotdrugs19
11-17-2018, 12:10 PM
Can't we tag him twice and then transition or something? Isn't that what the Steelers have been doing to Bell?

I donít see tagging him more than once. If heís worth a 2nd tag that would put his cap hit north of $20M probably, just extend him or tag and trade.

We donít need a headache like Bell gave Pittsburgh

Naptown Chief
11-17-2018, 12:11 PM
Can't we tag him twice and then transition or something? Isn't that what the Steelers have been doing to Bell?

And then we'd get a comp when he walks, right? Say he plays on tage and continues to be dominant... Since he was a 1st rounder would we not get a 1-2? He'd be 29 after tags so we'd essentially be trading a guy for a decent pick who'd be more or less past his prime.

Disclaimer, I'm not 100% familiar with the tag or comp picks so please correct me if I'm wrong

Naptown Chief
11-17-2018, 12:12 PM
I donít see tagging him more than once. If heís worth a 2nd tag that would put his cap hit north of $20M probably, just extend him or tag and trade.

We donít need a headache like Bell gave Pittsburgh

Gotcha. Didn't realize the second tag would be so expensive

O.city
11-17-2018, 12:15 PM
If you tag him it’s for one year and then let him walk. Don’t tag him a year then sign him to a big deal when he’s a year older

pugsnotdrugs19
11-17-2018, 12:17 PM
If you tag him itís for one year and then let him walk. Donít tag him a year then sign him to a big deal when heís a year older

Probably this.

Although there is a scenario where I might still extend him. If you know that Houston is gone after 2019 and you donít like any of the edge rushers behind those two heading into 2020, you may have to extend him.

O.city
11-17-2018, 12:20 PM
Probably this.

Although there is a scenario where I might still extend him. If you know that Houston is gone after 2019 and you donít like any of the edge rushers behind those two heading into 2020, you may have to extend him.

Then extend him now and be done with it

pugsnotdrugs19
11-17-2018, 12:33 PM
Then extend him now and be done with it

No, cause right now they probably donít trust his long term health and they likely believe in Speaks enough that they see him as a future starter.

Chargem
11-17-2018, 12:34 PM
Posted this elsewhere already, but Spotrac has a market value calculation for Ford of $11.2m per year, based on a 5 year contract ($56m total)

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/dee-ford-14432/market-value/

I have no idea how accurate their calculations have been in the past.

$11.2m per year, I would take that, try and push some of it back until Houston is off the books.

Marcellus
11-17-2018, 01:54 PM
I remember when not too long ago the CP mantra was Clark is cheap and we never pay anyone top$$ etc...

Now its dont pay anyone a big contract!!!!!!!!LMAO

DaFace
11-17-2018, 02:52 PM
Posted this elsewhere already, but Spotrac has a market value calculation for Ford of $11.2m per year, based on a 5 year contract ($56m total)

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/dee-ford-14432/market-value/

I have no idea how accurate their calculations have been in the past.

$11.2m per year, I would take that, try and push some of it back until Houston is off the books.

If he'd take that, and if we can structure it in a way we could get out of it after 3 years, I'd do it. We can't be giving him $15m+ though, and I'm afraid that's what he's gonna be asking for.

DaFace
11-17-2018, 02:54 PM
Good interview - worth the listen. I do hope we can find a way to keep the guy, but I'm definitely wary of giving injury-prone players big contracts. Guess we'll see.

Mecca
11-17-2018, 03:38 PM
Hopefully getting his back fixed makes him less injury prone.

KChiefs1
11-17-2018, 03:53 PM
He actually sounds like an awesome guy.



Such a sexy voice.

King_Chief_Fan
11-17-2018, 03:56 PM
Good interview - worth the listen. I do hope we can find a way to keep the guy, but I'm definitely wary of giving injury-prone players big contracts. Guess we'll see.

If chiefs can only pay 1: Berry Houston or Ford, I vote Ford

Molitoth
11-17-2018, 04:11 PM
Contract year. Buyer BEWARE!

Id Franchise him and see if his back holds up next season before I give him a big contract.

Yep. This is my franchise tag guy.

Naptown Chief
11-17-2018, 05:33 PM
If chiefs can only pay 1: Berry Houston or Ford, I vote Ford

Yipper

Marcellus
11-17-2018, 06:06 PM
If chiefs can only pay 1: Berry Houston or Ford, I vote Ford

Well duh.

Flying High D
11-18-2018, 12:33 AM
If chiefs can only pay 1: Berry Houston or Ford, I vote Ford

No way, pay Berry. See how long we can keep paying him and no play from him.