Texas Tech: Kliff Kingsbury fired

[Dante84]

Special offensive assistant to coach Reid to finish out the NFL season?

[BossChief]

It’s gonna happen

[Easy 6]

Bring him in, its a no brainer

[Imon Yourside]

Perfect Kansas Offensive Coordinator.

[BryanBusby]

Perfect Kansas Offensive Coordinator.
He's going to have better options.

[Imon Yourside]

He's going to have better options.

He would be right up the road from Mahomes :)

I know Miles probably wouldn't want him anyways, he loves him some ball control. Just a pipe dream for sure.

[BryanBusby]

He'll have dozens of offers in NCAA and the NFL to quickly rehab his profile. Kansas wouldn't be a quick rehab.

[Demonpenz]

can he still be a back up qb

[Kiimo]

If Colorado goes after Bieniemy this would be a very good replacement. Bring him in as some weird titled Offensive Assistant and then promote him if Bieniemy leaves.

[JakeF]

Perfect Kansas Offensive Coordinator.
What about our current one?

[Kiimo]

What about our current one?

There is no current Kansas offensive coordinator

[chiefzilla1501]

He'll have dozens of offers in NCAA and the NFL to quickly rehab his profile. Kansas wouldn't be a quick rehab.

I disagree. This is a terrific opportunity for him. He strikes me as a guy who'd rather be in the NFL. I don't think teams will want him to be oc just yet, let alone HC. Why wouldn't you jump at a chance to work with a qb you know, running an offense you're familiar with, under a head coach who will make you even better and who has a history for creating head coaches.

This would be a spectacular hire and a spectacular move for Kingsbury. Even better since I'd bet bienemy becomes a HC somewhere - promote Kafka to OC, and hire Kingsbury as qbs coach.

[BryanBusby]

I disagree. This is a terrific opportunity for him. He strikes me as a guy who'd rather be in the NFL. I don't think teams will want him to be oc just yet, let alone HC. Why wouldn't you jump at a chance to work with a qb you know, running an offense you're familiar with, under a head coach who will make you even better and who has a history for creating head coaches.

This would be a spectacular hire and a spectacular move for Kingsbury. Even better since I'd bet bienemy becomes a HC somewhere - promote Kafka to OC, and hire Kingsbury as qbs coach.
Talking about the Jayhawks and not Chiefs. Don't really care who the Chiefs OC is, as they are nothing but a body holding a sheet.

[Kiimo]

Kliff is pretty one-dimensional. The one dimension, however, is what we need him for. Like literally your job is to come up with wacky shit Mahomes can do, and then take credit for the Chiefs offense so you can be a head coach in a couple years.

[SAUTO]

He could take Childress's place

[chiefzilla1501]

Kliff is pretty one-dimensional. The one dimension, however, is what we need him for. Like literally your job is to come up with wacky shit Mahomes can do, and then take credit for the Chiefs offense so you can be a head coach in a couple years.

That's why a place on the Reid staff would be great. Reid could easily give Kingsbury the training to be multidimensional.

[Demonpenz]

He could take Childress's place

take a step back

[SAUTO]

take a step back

Childress isn't here anymore...

[Iconic]

Being Kansas City's OC is in demand considering it's a one way ticket to being a head coach in the NFL. Bieniemy is going to be offered a HC spot within the next two years. So lure Kingsbury in as some offensive assistant bullshit then promise him he gets the OC role when Bieniemy dips.

This will ensure Kafka stays hidden for a little longer and continues onward with Mahomes.

[Imon Yourside]

Talking about the Jayhawks and not Chiefs. Don't really care who the Chiefs OC is, as they are nothing but a body holding a sheet.

I dunno about that the Reid Coaching tree is pretty darn good, the Bears are doing pretty well with Trubisky and the Eagles just won a superbowl.

[Best22]

Kingsbury did a good job with Mahomes, but he’s getting even better coaching in KC. Not sure we need him

[chiefzilla1501]

Talking about the Jayhawks and not Chiefs. Don't really care who the Chiefs OC is, as they are nothing but a body holding a sheet.

I don't think his assistants are warm bodies. Reid asks them to research nfl and ncaa for creative ideas and he uses a lot of them. Kingsbury would be a mad scientist if matched with Reid.

[carcosa]

Hire his ass!!!

[Buehler445]

Any one ever listened to the interviews about Mahomes with Kliff? He literally just said , “do you dude”.

Probably not what Mahomes these days. His technical discipline achieved in the last 2 years has been staggering. We don’t need more bad habits for the sake of familiarity.

[chiefzilla1501]

Kingsbury did a good job with Mahomes, but he’s getting even better coaching in KC. Not sure we need him

This isn't about coaching up mahomes differently than what he's getting now. Reid and Kafka would still do a lot of that. This is about continuing to innovate our passing game.

[bdj23]

He's dreamy :D

[Coochie liquor]

Can he play safety??

[BigRedChief]

Being Kansas City's OC is in demand considering it's a one way ticket to being a head coach in the NFL. Bieniemy is going to be offered a HC spot within the next two years. So lure Kingsbury in as some offensive assistant bullshit then promise him he gets the OC role when Bieniemy dips.

This will ensure Kafka stays hidden for a little longer and continues onward with Mahomes.This!
Bieniemy is going to get a HC job. Kingsbury seems like a natural fit to replace him.

[RunKC]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/TTUKingsbury?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TTUKingsbury</a> for everything you have done for me and Texas Tech University! You believed in me when very few people did and helped me become the quarterback and person i am today!</p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes5) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes5/status/1066476884215644160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I’d see if Andy can develop him into a potential HC.

[BigRedChief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/TTUKingsbury?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TTUKingsbury</a> for everything you have done for me and Texas Tech University! You believed in me when very few people did and helped me become the quarterback and person i am today!</p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes5) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes5/status/1066476884215644160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sounds like a big time endorsement for the next OC.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

So why did he get fired???

[chiefzilla1501]

Interesting to note... Kingsbury got a lot of attention for introducing mahomes to virtual reality training. Bet he's got a lot of creative tricks up his sleeve

[Deberg_1990]

Probably ends up on Bellicheks staff eventually with his connections there.

[Best22]

Sounds like a big time endorsement for the next OC.

He’s just being nice. Plus Kingsbury was very helpful to Mahomes and helped develop him

We sure don’t need a new OC, averaging 36 points a game

[FloridaMan88]

So why did he get fired???

He didn’t win enough, although other than Mike Leach no one has won consistently at Texas Tech.

[Flying High D]

He could take Childress's place

How many bedrooms does it have?

[Titty Meat]

Tech is gonna try and get Frost

[RedRaider56]

He didn’t win enough, although other than Mike Leach no one has won consistently at Texas Tech.

When you have a 34-40 record after 6 years, you don't get too many contract extensions. Kingsbury had 4 losing season in 6 years.

P.S. If you want your running game with Hunt to disappear, hire Kingsbury.

[Buehler445]

He didn’t win enough, although other than Mike Leach no one has won consistently at Texas Tech.

Truth.

And I could line up at safety and be an improvement.

[chiefzilla1501]

When you have a 34-40 record after 6 years, you don't get too many contract extensions. Kingsbury had 4 losing season in 6 years.

P.S. If you want your running game with Hunt to disappear, hire Kingsbury.

We were also told that bienemy was a disaster of a coordinator at Colorado. That's why you put him in the NFL in a role where he can be groomed by an elite coaching staff. He's got a ton of positives with some negatives that can easily be ironed out.

[C3HIEF3S]

Zero net gain in hiring him.

[RedRaider56]

We were also told that bienemy was a disaster of a coordinator at Colorado. That's why you put him in the NFL in a role where he can be groomed by an elite coaching staff. He's got a ton of positives with some negatives that can easily be ironed out.

Perhaps..Kingsbury has shown to be quite a stubborn fellow, so it could certainly do him good to obtain grooming under an elite coaching staff. Biggest improvement would be coupling his offense with a competent defense.

[ILChief]

Am I the only one that thinks hiring him would be a bad move? Weird dynamic with mahomes college coach being on the staff

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Tech is gonna try and get Frost

Wat

[frozenchief]

If he joins KC, the best position would be a Childress-like offensive consultant that can help Andy, Bieniemy, Kafka and others create offensive plays that cater to Mahomes’ strength. I think Bieniemy is doing a good job as OC but he is constantly being mentioned as a head coach candidate, either for NFL teams or for Colorado. This would allow Kingsbury to be an asset while learning the pro game. We have him on board if Bieniemy leaves and we decide that Kafka isn’t ready.

His hiring, then, would be more insurance than anything else. Otherwise, it makes little sense to hire an Air Raid college coach to replace an OC with decadesexperience in the NFL and who is doing quite admirably in his role.

[Chief Roundup]

No thanks.

[MahiMike]

He's going to the NFL. So many teams want to reproduce what us and the Rams have.

[chiefzilla1501]

If he joins KC, the best position would be a Childress-like offensive consultant that can help Andy, Bieniemy, Kafka and others create offensive plays that cater to Mahomes’ strength. I think Bieniemy is doing a good job as OC but he is constantly being mentioned as a head coach candidate, either for NFL teams or for Colorado. This would allow Kingsbury to be an asset while learning the pro game. We have him on board if Bieniemy leaves and we decide that Kafka isn’t ready.

His hiring, then, would be more insurance than anything else. Otherwise, it makes little sense to hire an Air Raid college coach to replace an OC with decadesexperience in the NFL and who is doing quite admirably in his role.

Yup. But I would bet bienemy is gone. Sounds like Colorado is interested and he'd be excellent there. I'd promote Kafka to oc and just appoint Kingsbury as qbs coach. We all know the qbs coach is third in command to Reid and Kafka. His main responsibility, like Kafka, would be less about micromanaging mahomes... More about putting a passing gameplan together and scout out nfl/college teams for ideas. We all know reid is very hands on with Mahomes and would call actual plays.

I think people are overestimating Kingsburys value. He's probably not going to jump into an NFL oc role right away.

[CoMoChief]

Unless he's willing to take a role like Childress had, then fine.

I just think Kingsbury is going to get (better) offers elsewhere.

Makes for a good story though I guess...

[Buehler445]

Yup. But I would bet bienemy is gone. Sounds like Colorado is interested and he'd be excellent there. I'd promote Kafka to oc and just appoint Kingsbury as qbs coach. We all know the qbs coach is third in command to Reid and Kafka. His main responsibility, like Kafka, would be less about micromanaging mahomes... More about putting a passing gameplan together and scout out nfl/college teams for ideas. We all know reid is very hands on with Mahomes and would call actual plays.

I think people are overestimating Kingsburys value. He's probably not going to jump into an NFL oc role right away.

I’m telling you. He’s literally said on record that he just let Mahomes be. He didn’t try to change anything. Looking at what he was at Tech and what he is now that’s obviously not what happened at KC. I don’t want that.

[DJ's left nut]

I've been dead wrong about Bienemy. He's been an ideal complement to Reid.

Kingsbury worries me - too much like Andy in how he views things. I like the way EB and Reid work together.

As the 'spread consultant' I'd be fine but as OC he's going to lean too heavily into what andy already does.

[KChiefs1]

Bieniemy gets the CU HC job or NFL HC job.
Andy promotes Kafka to OC.
Kingsbury becomes QB Coach.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Bring him in to make sure the balls are inflated just right.

[RealSNR]

If Bienemy takes an OC job, we already have a QB coach replacement on staff. Joe Bleymaier is the Brad Childress role. His official title is Pass Game Analyst/Asst. QB Coach.

Our OC Quality Control guy is David Girardi.

I have no clue how Reid would shift things around, but I don't know if Reid would be interested in upsetting the flow of coaches by bringing in Kingsbury at QB coach or even OC.

[RunKC]

Alex Smith is forced to retire because of his leg injury. Can’t give up football. Calls Andy Reid. Becomes QB coach for Mahomes in 2019.

CP explodes. Hilarity ensues.

[chiefzilla1501]

I’m telling you. He’s literally said on record that he just let Mahomes be. He didn’t try to change anything. Looking at what he was at Tech and what he is now that’s obviously not what happened at KC. I don’t want that.

I'm sure he's being modest. Kingsbury is a pretty hands on coach with qbs and he taught mahomes a difficult offense. He knows enough about qb play being a qb himself. What he doesn't know he'll learn from Reid and staff. He would be so far down the line of qbs coaching mahomes. He won't make mahomes worse. We aren't looking for qb technicians. Reid is that guy. He's a hell of a lot more experienced than Nagy, pederson, or Kafka ever were. His main contribution will be helping Reid innovate on offense. Reid called Kingsbury a genius and it's well known Reid stole lots of pages from TTUs playbook so he could that frankly better than I think bienemy or Kafka could.

[Buehler445]

I'm sure he's being modest. Kingsbury is a pretty hands on coach with qbs and he taught mahomes a difficult offense. He knows enough about qb play being a qb himself. What he doesn't know he'll learn from Reid and staff. He would be so far down the line of qbs coaching mahomes. He won't make mahomes worse. We aren't looking for qb technicians. Reid is that guy. He's a hell of a lot more experienced than Nagy, pederson, or Kafka ever were. His main contribution will be helping Reid innovate on offense. Reid called Kingsbury a genius and it's well known Reid stole lots of pages from TTUs playbook so he could that frankly better than I think bienemy or Kafka could.

I just gotta disagree here. He literally said they didn’t ask him to change anything.

[suzzer99]

In the tradition of the Royals with Mike Matheny, the Chiefs will hire Jeff Fisher to develop their young QB.

[rico]

Alex Smith is forced to retire because of his leg injury. Can’t give up football. Calls Andy Reid. Becomes QB coach for Mahomes in 2019.

CP explodes. Hilarity ensues.

Literally every incomplete pass he'd throw from there on out, I would blame it on Alex/

[BigRedChief]

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Sounds like a big time endorsement for the next OC.

He’s just being nice. Plus Kingsbury was very helpful to Mahomes and helped develop him

We sure don’t need a new OC, averaging 36 points a gameNo one was talking about firing Eric. He is getting a promotion after this season. Just like every other OC. Teams want what we have.The conversation was when Eric gets a HC job this off season, that we hire Kingbury as the new OC for 2019. The reason is a familiarity with the basics of Reid's offense and Mahomes likes him.<iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c9b0d6e1ef0320c49dc875c581cc9586.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com&settingsEndpoint=https%3A%2F%2Fsyndication.twitter.com%2Fsettings" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: medium none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c9b0d6e1ef0320c49dc875c581cc9586.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com&settingsEndpoint=https%3A%2F%2Fsyndication.twitter.com%2Fsettings" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c9b0d6e1ef0320c49dc875c581cc9586.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com&settingsEndpoint=https%3A%2F%2Fsyndication.twitter.com%2Fsettings" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c9b0d6e1ef0320c49dc875c581cc9586.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com&settingsEndpoint=https%3A%2F%2Fsyndication.twitter.com%2Fsettings" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c9b0d6e1ef0320c49dc875c581cc9586.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com&settingsEndpoint=https%3A%2F%2Fsyndication.twitter.com%2Fsettings" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe>

[oldman]

I don't think Bieniemy leaves this year. He's only had 1 season as an OC and was the RB coach before. Now next season, especially if we win it all, he'll be a red hot commodity.

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't think Bieniemy leaves this year. He's only had 1 season as an OC and was the RB coach before. Now next season, especially if we win it all, he'll be a red hot commodity.

There is talks of him being a hot candidate for Colorado. And I'd bet that's a dream job for him.

[In58men]

Lost two very tough games that ended up being closed, need new coaches.

[JakeF]

There is no current Kansas offensive coordinatorI thought Bieniemy was our Make-Believe offensive coordinator this year. Andy is always the Offensive Everything for us, but he needs guys to do the paperwork for him.

[SAUTO]

Lost two very tough games that ended up being closed, need new coaches.

No one had said that in this thread prior to you

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I want him in the offense of this organization. Don't care where.

And why in god's name would he take a step back by going KU? "Hey Kliff, we've got this really shitty football program in Lawrence; come on down"!

[Reerun_KC]

I want him in the offense of this organization. Don't care where.

And why in god's name would he take a step back by going KU? "Hey Kliff, we've got this really shitty football program in Lawrence; come on down"!

Maybe he likes a challenge? Kind of like you swallowing 12 inches.

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I also hear Mack Brown is very, very interested in North Carolina job. Could bring former Texas DC Gene Chizik with him and try to bring Kliff Kingsbury as his OC.</p>&mdash; Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) <a href="https://twitter.com/kbohls/status/1066760091679014912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[R Clark]

Maybe he likes a challenge? Kind of like you swallowing 12 inches.

I bet he can do that any time he wants. Challenge ppfff

[In58men]

No one had said that in this thread prior to you

This is true, I just don’t see the need to make any coaching moves.

[NJChiefsFan]

What is the record for most years in a row having your coordinator hired as a head coach. And both have worked out so far too, like others in the past. Andy knows how to delegate and coach.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Maybe he likes a challenge? Kind of like you swallowing 12 inches.

(Kingsbury home phone rings)

KK: Hello?

KUAD: Hey Kliff, this is Limpy McPetersalt over at University of Kansas Athletics, how are you doing tonight?!

KK: Oh, not too bad all things considered.

KUAD: That's great Kliff! I'm calling you because one of my alumni, a charter pilot, thinks you'd be a great match for the football program here, believes you might be looking for a challenge! Are you looking for a challenge?!

KK: Limpy, I do enjoy a challenge-

KUAD: Oh that's GREAT, Kliff! When can I schedule you for an interview?!

KK: Limpy, you didn't let me finish. You see, I enjoy a challenge as much as any man in competitive sports, but an insurmountable fist-fuck like KU? Not so much.

(hangs up phone)

FIN.

[Reerun_KC]

FIN.

That’s what your mom says.

[BryanBusby]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I also hear Mack Brown is very, very interested in North Carolina job. Could bring former Texas DC Gene Chizik with him and try to bring Kliff Kingsbury as his OC.</p>&mdash; Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) <a href="https://twitter.com/kbohls/status/1066760091679014912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That sounds like a lot of really wishful coach fantasy hiring.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Andy knows how to execute a good offensive game plan in the regular season, but can never manage the clock or timeouts competently, and can't devise and execute a balanced game plan in the playoffs.

I made your post factually accurate.

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[JakeF]

I made your post factually accurate.

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We'll see. This year he has a QB that provides zero excuses for his coaching ability. Mahomes can do anything Reid asked of him and doesn't go rogue like McNabb.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

All I know is that when Andy starts getting that "Herm"-look on his face during a game, things are falling apart. You know the one; that half-squint, 1000 yard stare at the jumbo-tron? Yep, that's the one.

[Chiefshrink]

If Colorado goes after Bieniemy this would be a very good replacement. Bring him in as some weird titled Offensive Assistant and then promote him if Bieniemy leaves.

Brad Childress II

[Al Bundy]

I fully expect Kingsbury to be a part of the next coaching search for the Buccaneers.

[Titty Meat]

No thanks would rather have Kafka

[Simply Red]

I think this is a great idea that Seth Keysor and Chris Clark suggested.

[htismaqe]

Biggest improvement would be coupling his offense with a competent defense.

Sounds like he'd be all too comfortable in KC. LOL

[Skyy God]

Already has 2 NFL offers.

Hope we’re one of them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2018/11/28/18116472/kliff-kingsbury-offensive-coordinator-interest-job-openings

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I think this is a great idea that Seth Keysor and Chris Clark suggested.

Spread offense analyst? I wood agree

[BigRedChief]

Sounds like another endorsement from Mahomes

“I haven’t talked to him at all about where he’s thinking about going or where he’s thinking about ending up,” Mahomes said. “But I know if he did come to the NFL, he has the work ethic and he has the mind and he has the innovativeness, I guess you would say — if that’s a word, to be in this league. Whatever he does, I know he’ll have success doing it.”

[The Franchise]

He's going to get an OC job somewhere.....that's for sure.

[CoMoChief]

He's gonna get a better deal/gig than just being a "Spread offense analyst" for KC.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

He's gonna get a better deal/gig than just being a "Spread offense analyst" for KC.

I'd hire him as Defensive Coordinator right now and kick Sutton out.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I'd hire him as Defensive Coordinator right now and kick Sutton out.

"Couldn't be worse than 31st"! is the new motto.

[Hoover]

If I were him I'd sign a deal to get me a ticket of the Chiefs super bowl train. Then at the end of the season if someone wants to offer him the moon you let him walk. Best case he stays for a season or two.

[JakeF]

I doubt Kingsbury comes to Kansas City, other teams will offer more authority. Peterson and Nagy didn't get full control of the offense and now they're running their own teams. Andy Reid will never give up any real power over our offense.

If he does come to KC it will be because he wants to learn more than he wants money.

[dj562006]

My sources say he's going to USC as the OC.