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Stinger
12-05-2018, 10:08 AM
The NFL wants to implement changes to the punt after making plenty of changes to the kickoff

by Sean Wagner-McGough @seanjwagner


It's not just kickoffs that are in a period of change in today's NFL. After enacting a number of rule changes in recent years to make the kickoff safer, the NFL will now focus on the punt as it aims to decrease injuries and penalties, league officials told ESPN on Tuesday. Changes could be coming as soon as next season.

According to ESPN's Kevin Seifert, the league will "crowdsource ideas from the analytics community" as "part of the 1st and Future project, an innovation competition that culminates in a Feb. 2 presentation in Atlanta, site of Super Bowl LIII." However, the league did not promise to use any of the ideas brought to them.

So why is the NFL planning on changing the punt? NFL executive vice president of health and safety initiatives Jeff Miller said that punts cause twice as many concussions than normal plays. Meanwhile, penalties most frequently occur during punts, Seifert reported, which is easy to believe after seeing holding and illegal-block-in-the-back penalties get flagged on what seems like every other punt -- if not more.

"We know our fans are not big fans of every play ending in a penalty, and that's one thing we definitely want to look at," Rich McKay, the head of the competition committee, said.

None of this should come as a huge surprise after all of the rules we've seen the NFL modify in an attempt to make the kickoff less dangerous. The NFL decreased the number of kickoff returns by moving the kickoff from the 30 to the 35-yard line in addition to moving the touchback from the 20 to the 25-yard line. More recently, they eliminated wedge blocking techniques by the return team and running starts for the kicking team.

Punts appear to be the NFL's next target. While complaints will undoubtedly be made whenever the NFL does make changes to the punt, it's easy to understand why the NFL is trying to make a special teams play safer and less likely to end in a penalty. Hopefully, the changes won't prohibit the Devin Hesters and Johnny Hekkers of the NFL from making the kind of plays that can make the punt exciting, but even if that happens and the end result is a safer sport, it'll be tough to criticize the league for doing so.

Many critics have bemoaned the changes made to the kickoff in recent years, but those changes have hardly impacted the quality of football in today's NFL while the league says injuries have been reduced to the point where the kickoff won't have to be eliminated entirely, which was mentioned as a possible outcome as recently as March. Next up? The punt.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-will-crowdsource-ideas-to-change-the-punt-as-it-aims-to-decrease-injuries-penalties/

ModSocks
12-05-2018, 10:10 AM
To prevent concussions the NFL should just remove everyone from the field except the return man and punter.

And since our offense doesn't punt, we have nothing to worry about.

wazu
12-05-2018, 10:10 AM
Make it a 15 yard penalty for kicking out of bounds.

pugsnotdrugs19
12-05-2018, 10:11 AM
Fine with me if it makes things safer. Don’t think they can do anything to make football any less exciting really.

InChiefsHeaven
12-05-2018, 10:13 AM
Wear flags. It's the only way.

wazu
12-05-2018, 10:13 AM
If you truly want safer game play, eliminate all helmets and pads.

BlackHelicopters
12-05-2018, 10:18 AM
Penalties on punts will be self called by players and subject to intense ten minute play review. A string of commercials three minutes long can and will be inserted at least three times, stretching the “ punt review” to nearly 20 minutes. The NFL announced that the revenue bump from expanding punt coverage will add one billion to NFL coffers annually.

Rain Man
12-05-2018, 10:18 AM
A few ideas off the top of my head.

1. No punts. Go for it on every fourth down.

2. No punts. Go for it on every fourth down, but a pass is essentially a punt. If it's incomplete, the defense gets the ball where it hit the ground.

3. No punt returns. The punter kicks the ball and the offense gets it where it comes to rest.

4. The punter must line up 30 yards behind the line of scrimmage to keep the collisions low-speed. If he can't, then Rule 3 happens.

Halfcan
12-05-2018, 10:21 AM
How about the NFL works on getting honest, unbiased refs and stop trying to control the outcome of important games?

That would help the game more than tinkering with punts. Oh yeah, we have a killer punt returner, so let's change the rules.

mlyonsd
12-05-2018, 10:22 AM
Make the gunners count to three Mississippi's before they can take off.

Dayze
12-05-2018, 10:24 AM
treat a fair catch like a QB slide. play is dead/ over once the returner rasises his hand signaling for the fair catch. disregard / pick up the flag on any penalty besides a personal foul / unsportsmanlike conduct etc.

-King-
12-05-2018, 10:25 AM
How about the NFL works on getting honest, unbiased refs and stop trying to control the outcome of important games?

That would help the game more than tinkering with punts. Oh yeah, we have a killer punt returner, so let's change the rules.

Is there anyone that even likes Hill on punt returns? The risk far outweighs the reward. Unless it's a late game situation and we need him to potentially make a big play, I'd rather put someone else on punt returns.
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wazu
12-05-2018, 10:27 AM
A few ideas off the top of my head.

1. No punts. Go for it on every fourth down.

2. No punts. Go for it on every fourth down, but a pass is essentially a punt. If it's incomplete, the defense gets the ball where it hit the ground.

3. No punt returns. The punter kicks the ball and the offense gets it where it comes to rest.

4. The punter must line up 30 yards behind the line of scrimmage to keep the collisions low-speed. If he can't, then Rule 3 happens.

I’m okay with #1. #2 sounds great for us. #3 would be terrible. #4 sounds like pure comedy.

Halfcan
12-05-2018, 10:28 AM
Is there anyone that even likes Hill on punt returns? The risk far outweighs the reward. Unless it's a late game situation and we need him to potentially make a big play, I'd rather put someone else on punt returns.
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Just having Hill back there forces teams to have to strategize on how to handle it. They are so scared of getting burned they are now just kicking out of bounds. We are in their heads.

Stinger
12-05-2018, 10:30 AM
Is there anyone that even likes Hill on punt returns? The risk far outweighs the reward. Unless it's a late game situation and we need him to potentially make a big play, I'd rather put someone else on punt returns.
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I do. Have you seen the field position we get when punters try and punt away from him. He affects the play even though he may not be directly involved.

ClevelandBronco
12-05-2018, 10:30 AM
How about the NFL works on getting honest, unbiased refs and stop trying to control the outcome of important games?

That would help the game more than tinkering with punts. Oh yeah, we have a killer punt returner, so let's change the rules.

Give it

a fucking

rest

already.

Strongside
12-05-2018, 10:31 AM
Teams must use their fastest guy or best open-field tackler as their punter.

Then only he and the other team's returner are on the field, alone.

The punt happens and it's man vs. man.

m80mayhem
12-05-2018, 10:33 AM
I’m okay with #1. #2 sounds great for us. #3 would be terrible. #4 sounds like pure comedy.

NFLPA would not go for anything that eliminated a job.

threebag
12-05-2018, 10:34 AM
Shove the flags up the referees ass before the game

-King-
12-05-2018, 10:36 AM
I do. Have you seen the field position we get when punters try and punt away from him. He affects the play even though he may not be directly involved.

We can score from anywhere. I just don't want our most important weapon on the most dangerous play of the game. And while our drive start won't be quite as good, I trust Toub to put a player out that would get us at least decent field position regardless.

I mean, even before Hill Toub was getting good to great production out of his punt returners so it's not like our drive starts will suffer greatly from him getting pulled off.
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displacedinMN
12-05-2018, 10:38 AM
I do. Have you seen the field position we get when punters try and punt away from him. He affects the play even though he may not be directly involved.

OAK zinged one oob last week, It was very short.

Rain Man
12-05-2018, 10:50 AM
I’m okay with #1. #2 sounds great for us. #3 would be terrible. #4 sounds like pure comedy.

I would agree with this.


#5 - Allow holding and blocks in the back, but the punter doesn't count toward the 11 men on the kicking team. They get a 12th guy.

#6 - No punts, but allow five downs if the distance to a first down is 10 yards or more.

#7 - You know the NFL will want this one. Option #5, but the punter cannot be touched nor can initiate contact, and the punter must be female.

Frazod
12-05-2018, 10:53 AM
Give it

a fucking

rest

already.

go

fuck

your

self

Rain Man
12-05-2018, 11:00 AM
The interesting part of this is that the injuries most often occur on kickoffs and punts, probably because those are the plays where the most players reach their highest speeds. Unfortunately, those are also the most exciting plays for that reason, and they're often also the longest plays.

So if the goal is to lower the speeds of players, then whatever they do is going to increase emphasis on either power or shiftiness. Increasing emphasis on power running is not going to ease up injuries on this sort of play, so whatever they do will end up making small quick guys more valuable.

Option #8. All players on punts and kickoffs must wear drag parachutes.

InChiefsHeaven
12-05-2018, 11:06 AM
I would agree with this.


#5 - Allow holding and blocks in the back, but the punter doesn't count toward the 11 men on the kicking team. They get a 12th guy.

#6 - No punts, but allow five downs if the distance to a first down is 10 yards or more.

#7 - You know the NFL will want this one. Option #5, but the punter cannot be touched nor can initiate contact, and the punter must be female.

...and nekid!

Spott
12-05-2018, 11:11 AM
We need more flags on punt returns.

Rain Man
12-05-2018, 11:19 AM
#9 - All players on kickoff and punt coverage must have their ankles taped together, and will hop for the duration of the play.

Rain Man
12-05-2018, 11:24 AM
...and nekid!

That's a possibility.

Now that I think about it, if we take the female punter idea and build on it, the NFL can send a very important social message. Whenever she's on the field, any player who touches her is automatically ejected from the game. This occurs even if she initiates the contact, so it will be the receiving team's obligation to return the punt while also avoiding any contact with her.

As they say, football is a metaphor for life. This would be a perfect way to add another layer.

CrazyPhuD
12-05-2018, 11:32 AM
They need to pair up every player(including the punter) during punts and make punt returns like a three legged race for returners, blockers, tacklers and punters. :hmmm:

Discuss Thrower
12-05-2018, 11:39 AM
Step 1) Stipulate that the defense cannot have more than seven men on the line of scrimmage and that at least two men must be further than ten yards off the line of scrimmage when the offense lines up in a scrimmage kick formation.

Step 2) Stipulate the kicking team cannot have more than seven men on the line of scrimmage if lined up in the scrimmage kick formation.

Step 3) Stipulate a punt cannot be advanced by the first man to touch the ball on the receiving team unless it's legally passed backward to another member of the receiving team.

The ball is not live unless it's touched by the second man after an attempted backward pass even if it's lateraled into the end zone from the field of play. A ball lateraled by the first member of the receiving team that is not touched by a second man will be placed at the 10 yard line if downed in the end zone by the kicking team. If caught by a second man in the end zone and not brought out across the goal line, the ball will be placed at the 20 yard line.

The kicking team can down the ball at any point from when it is kicked to when it's touched by the first man on the receiving team and a legal backward pass is attempted.

tooge
12-05-2018, 11:49 AM
There’s some good ideas here, but none as good as the naked, or at least bikini clad female punter. Benefits include:
1. Nobody would care if their team had to punt.
2. Wait, screw it. Too many to list. Punters are basically just regular dudes, so let’s spice it up with naked female punters.

bowener
12-05-2018, 11:57 AM
Somewhat unrelated to this, but I would love to see most teams go for it every 4th down, and utilize the QB punt if everything is covered on a pass. I'd go a step further and line up with your starters and have the QB punt without attempting a conversion more often than not. A team would never know what to expect. Obviously, if your QB is garbage at this don't do it or drop the punter from your roster and draft an athlete that can learn to punt decently but also be a threat to run or throw decently. Somebody that isn't great at anything, but decent at everything.

Pitt Gorilla
12-05-2018, 11:59 AM
Somewhat unrelated to this, but I would love to see most teams go for it every 4th down, and utilize the QB punt if everything is covered on a pass. I'd go a step further and line up with your starters and have the QB punt without attempting a conversion more often than not. A team would never know what to expect. Obviously, if your QB is garbage at this don't do it or drop the punter from your roster and draft an athlete that can learn to punt decently but also be a threat to run or throw decently. Somebody that isn't great at anything, but decent at everything.Not sure the QB would have the room to punt. How deep are you lining him up?

Discuss Thrower
12-05-2018, 12:00 PM
Not sure the QB would have the room to punt. How deep are you lining him up?

Roethlisberger seemingly gets the luxury of a pooch punt every season or so.

Chiefnj2
12-05-2018, 12:08 PM
I love it when the NFL uses player safety as an excuse to try to change or tweak a rule. If they cared about player safety there would no Thursday night games.

I'd love to see the data that there are more concussions on the 8-10 punts in a game compared to the 100 plus other plays during a game.

TinyEvel
12-05-2018, 12:09 PM
Start the punting team players behind the returner, and they have to do a "one potato, two potato, three potato" count before taking off after him.

Also, flag football belts and rules only on punts. Tapped it, no take backs. Pinkyswear.

ClevelandBronco
12-05-2018, 12:11 PM
go

fuck

your

self

Not a bad idea. And the cool thing is, unlike you I can actually see my cock without standing on a mirror, so it's possible.

Frazod
12-05-2018, 12:12 PM
Not a bad idea. And the cool thing is, unlike you I can actually see my cock without standing on a mirror, so it's possible.

Well, it sticks out of your collar, so it would be hard to miss.

ClevelandBronco
12-05-2018, 12:13 PM
Well, it sticks out of your collar, so it would be hard to miss.

That's an exaggeration. I mean, it's long, but ...

Frazod
12-05-2018, 12:14 PM
That's an exaggeration. I mean, it's long, but ...

I figure you're at least 5'2", right?

Discuss Thrower
12-05-2018, 12:15 PM
This is ChiefsPlanet, not Grindr, you chucklefucks.

ClevelandBronco
12-05-2018, 12:18 PM
I figure you're at least 5'2", right?

I figure you're at least 5'2" wide, right?

By the way, you were right about fucking myself. Mmmmmmmm.

Discuss Thrower
12-05-2018, 12:19 PM
:bolt:

Ho damn

Rausch
12-05-2018, 12:20 PM
Could we please stop fucking with the game?

Safer helmets and pads is great but leave the game alone...

Fish
12-05-2018, 12:20 PM
For punts, all players on the field must wear inflatable bubble outfits...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/a7/6a/b1a76abc6cbc6ec79ab1badb5780ec24.jpg

Chief Roundup
12-05-2018, 12:28 PM
Leave the fucking game alone.
If they are going to remove punts then the opposing team gets the ball at their 40 yard line or deeper if the offense stalls inside the 40.

Frazod
12-05-2018, 12:35 PM
I figure you're at least 5'2" wide, right?

By the way, you were right about fucking myself. Mmmmmmmm.

You know, you could always take your eternally anonymous gutless cunt self over to the Drane, where everybody else is quite sure that cheating and biased calls have no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of games.

Maybe you'd be a happier. But I doubt it.

kysirsoze
12-05-2018, 12:35 PM
2. No punts. Go for it on every fourth down, but a pass is essentially a punt. If it's incomplete, the defense gets the ball where it hit the ground.

This but if it's incomplete, live ball.

HemiEd
12-05-2018, 12:39 PM
How about the NFL works on getting honest, unbiased refs and stop trying to control the outcome of important games?

That would help the game more than tinkering with punts. Oh yeah, we have a killer punt returner, so let's change the rules.

Yep, just enforce the rules they already have instead of being selective.

How about fixing the officiating period.

MahiMike
12-05-2018, 12:43 PM
Just quit throwing the damn flags! Problem solved.

scho63
12-05-2018, 12:53 PM
BUBBLE WRAP!!!

Before every punt and kickoff, special teams all put on a special bubble wrap suit.

Coochie liquor
12-05-2018, 12:54 PM
Every punt the cheerleaders remove their tops and jump around on the sidelines!

Beef Supreme
12-05-2018, 01:06 PM
We could have Clark Hunt do the punting, and introduce the world to the CHunt Punt.

WhawhaWhat
12-05-2018, 01:12 PM
Nobody on the field except for the punter and the receiver. The receiver fields the ball and then a german shepherd chases them and brings them down and that's where the offense takes over.

suzzer99
12-05-2018, 01:17 PM
This is the first step toward completely eliminating punts.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-05-2018, 02:04 PM
If you truly want safer game play, eliminate all helmets and pads.

Which is a great idea until the first time someone goes down and catches a knee to the face on the descent.

DJJasonp
12-05-2018, 02:18 PM
While we're at it - why dont we get rid of the stupid rule that went against us at Oakland - where the kick returner can be standing out of bounds - touch the ball that is still in-bounds.......and somehow that's a penalty against the kicking team!!!!!???? (and ball placed on the 40)

In a game full of asinine rules - that one is way up there.

Hell - any ball that comes close to the sideline, I'd coach my guys to make sure you touch it while standing on the line.....instant great field position!

notorious
12-05-2018, 02:24 PM
I propose the the punters kick the ball directly up each owner's rectum.

DJJasonp
12-05-2018, 02:29 PM
Next up: Every possession resulting in loss of downs or turnover resets the ball at the other team's 25 yard line.

Sounds crazy - but we're not far off from it (and think of the fantasy football impact - which seems to carry much more weight than others).

NinerDoug
12-05-2018, 02:33 PM
The NFL wants to implement changes to the punt after making plenty of changes to the kickoff

by Sean Wagner-McGough @seanjwagner


It's not just kickoffs that are in a period of change in today's NFL. After enacting a number of rule changes in recent years to make the kickoff safer, the NFL will now focus on the punt as it aims to decrease injuries and penalties, league officials told ESPN on Tuesday. Changes could be coming as soon as next season.

According to ESPN's Kevin Seifert, the league will "crowdsource ideas from the analytics community" as "part of the 1st and Future project, an innovation competition that culminates in a Feb. 2 presentation in Atlanta, site of Super Bowl LIII." However, the league did not promise to use any of the ideas brought to them.

So why is the NFL planning on changing the punt? NFL executive vice president of health and safety initiatives Jeff Miller said that punts cause twice as many concussions than normal plays. Meanwhile, penalties most frequently occur during punts, Seifert reported, which is easy to believe after seeing holding and illegal-block-in-the-back penalties get flagged on what seems like every other punt -- if not more.

"We know our fans are not big fans of every play ending in a penalty, and that's one thing we definitely want to look at," Rich McKay, the head of the competition committee, said.

None of this should come as a huge surprise after all of the rules we've seen the NFL modify in an attempt to make the kickoff less dangerous. The NFL decreased the number of kickoff returns by moving the kickoff from the 30 to the 35-yard line in addition to moving the touchback from the 20 to the 25-yard line. More recently, they eliminated wedge blocking techniques by the return team and running starts for the kicking team.

Punts appear to be the NFL's next target. While complaints will undoubtedly be made whenever the NFL does make changes to the punt, it's easy to understand why the NFL is trying to make a special teams play safer and less likely to end in a penalty. Hopefully, the changes won't prohibit the Devin Hesters and Johnny Hekkers of the NFL from making the kind of plays that can make the punt exciting, but even if that happens and the end result is a safer sport, it'll be tough to criticize the league for doing so.

Many critics have bemoaned the changes made to the kickoff in recent years, but those changes have hardly impacted the quality of football in today's NFL while the league says injuries have been reduced to the point where the kickoff won't have to be eliminated entirely, which was mentioned as a possible outcome as recently as March. Next up? The punt.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-will-crowdsource-ideas-to-change-the-punt-as-it-aims-to-decrease-injuries-penalties/

So, any ideas about the specifics?

The Franchise
12-05-2018, 02:56 PM
For punts, all players on the field must wear inflatable bubble outfits...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/a7/6a/b1a76abc6cbc6ec79ab1badb5780ec24.jpg

Winner.

BWillie
12-05-2018, 03:41 PM
Stop roughing the punter penalties unless a defender makes no play at the ball. I think its ridiculous if you tip the ball you can crunch the punter but if you baaaaarely miss and the punter falls on you....FIRST DOWN! Its infuriating

Stinger
12-05-2018, 03:48 PM
So, any ideas about the specifics?

Only thing I could find right now:


The NFL Competition Committee is aiming to make some changes to the punt play this offseason and is crowdsourcing the creative process, Falcons president Rich McKay told reporters Tuesday.

"This is a play we think is ready and ripe to be modernized," McKay, the chairman of the competition committee, said during a conference call with reporters, per The Washington Post.

McKay said, per The Post, that the competition committee will consider changes both from player-safety and competitive standpoints

McKay's comments came in conjunction with the announcement of "1st and Future", a competition held during Super Bowl week designed to "spur innovation in athlete safety and performance." The event will be hosted at Georgia Tech on Feb. 2.

One of the categories of competition is entitled "NFL Punt Analytics Competition". Appliciants to the competition will be given exclusive NFL data sets to inform submissions about possible rule changes designed to "reduce player injury during punt plays." The creators of the winning submissions will be awarded $20,000 each.

"Leveraging available data to analyze the game is an increasingly essential way to improve our rules and look to make the game safer," NFL executive vice president of health and safety initiatives Jeff Miller explained in a press release. "This is a groundbreaking new effort to ask the public to analyze our rules and make recommendations. We are excited to tap into the innovative thinking of data scientists and entrepreneurs."

McKay said, per The Post, the league will take any suggestions made from the competition in consideration this offseason as the committee looks to change how the punt play is orchestrated and officiated.

This crowdsourced initiative comes less than a year after the league changed rules related to the kickoff in order to limit full-speed collisions. Among the changes were the elimination of a five-yard running start and the wedge block.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000996209/article/nfl-aiming-to-modernize-punt-play-crowdsource-ideas

Dayze
12-05-2018, 03:53 PM
LMAO

bowener
12-05-2018, 03:57 PM
Not sure the QB would have the room to punt. How deep are you lining him up?

That's for every team to figure out and orchestrate. I'm really starting to dig my idea. Think about a jet sweep or reverse. PM pitches to Tyreek on a Jet sweep, which already puts Reek pretty far behind the line. If he sees there isn't a chance to make the corner then he pooch punts it to the best of his ability. More than likely the safeties will have come up to stop the run so the ball hopefully rolls for a bit.

Better yet, have some shit head like Taysom Hill and run a reverse to him. Now you've got a guy that can run, throw, or boot it. He might be the best example of the player you could replace a punter with, actually. Punts may not be big booming beautiful things anymore, but the play design around the new system would be a lot of fun to see in the game.

edit:

The opposite of this could also be implemented if the NFL decides that punts will essentially become a skill play and do something lame like all Punts will not be returnable but if the ball stops in the field of play it is moved 10 yards further down filed automatically. If the ball is punted out of bounds the ball is placed where it went out. This would encourage coffin corner kicks so at least the position would still require some skill. We would also get to see some stupidly long punts to flip field position.

Rain Man
12-05-2018, 04:54 PM
The problems to solve are that blocking causes a lot of penalties, and downfield collisions between blockers and defenders cause more concussions. So the solution is simple: do away with blockers.

Suggestion #10 - All players on the kicking team must punt, so 11 balls are punted simultaneously. The receiving team must field all balls and return them. The line of scrimmage is where the shortest return ended, including spots for balls that went out bounds. However, five yards are added for every returner who ran their ball into the end zone, and five yards are added for every ball that went out of bounds. If any balls are fumbled and recovered by the kicking team, ten yards are subtracted. For every returner who carries two or more balls into the end zone, ten yards are added instead of five.

stevieray
12-05-2018, 05:26 PM
Prolly should just eliminate the forward pass, so WR's don't have to sustain contact.


Goodell is the worst thing to ever happen to the NFL.

HemiEd
12-05-2018, 05:55 PM
Prolly should just eliminate the forward pass, so WR's don't have to sustain contact.


Goodell is the worst thing to ever happen to the NFL.

I could not agree with you more.

kccrow
12-05-2018, 10:23 PM
My opinion:

*Neither team may have more than two men, in the aggregate, more than 1 yard outside of the end men and those players must be on the LOS.
-Note: This uses current terminology (end man) and basically limits the punt team from having more than 2 gunners split wide and also limits the return team from having more than one blocker on a gunner.
*Neither team may have more than 4 players off the LOS and only 1 of those players may be more than 5 yards off (beyond for return/behind for punting)the LOS.
-Note: This encourages use of the college-style shield blocking formation, or a similar adaptation, and reduces the number of players with running head starts, including the distance to which they may get a head start. Basically, the only players that can be more than 5 yards off the LOS is the Punter and the Returner.
*The current rule that no ineligible receivers may advance beyond the LOS prior to the ball being kicked remains intact.


Overall, should see a punt formation similar to this...

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.................................-..O............O..........O..-
.....................L...........-....O...O....O......O...O....-..........L
.....................X...........-......X...X...X...X...X......-..........X
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mr. tegu
12-06-2018, 12:47 AM
I assume that it’s the longer punts that lead to the most issues. So to counter that on the punt the receiving team has two returners. One of them is placed at a line that is say 40 - 50 yards from the line of scrimmage. This returner cannot go backwards to get the ball but has basically all of the options of a regular returner now such as fair catch or trying to return it.

Behind him is the second returner. This player cannot return the ball but can make a fair catch or let it bounce. That way he still has the option of catching it at the 10 yard line or hoping it bounces to the end zone with the kicking team still getting their chance to make a play to down it inside the 10 yard line.

So if a team is punting from their own 30 yard line, the first returner stands at his own 30 yard line but cannot go backwards at all and can return the kick as normal, call a fair catch, or let it bounce as long as it lands in front of him. The second returner has only the option of making a fair catch or letting it bounce but he can run wherever he wants to catch it, including into the other returner’s area.

You still have a chance for a big play from either side but you eliminate the amount of collisions that occur.

Chargem
12-06-2018, 01:31 AM
I've fixed this:

Have two Xboxes, one on each side line and then switch over to Madden for the punt play only. The real ball would be placed at the same yard line where the Madden play ended.

You would then expand the rosters to 54 so you can carry a Madden specialist who is fully subject to the CBA.

BigRedChief
12-06-2018, 07:55 AM
You can chose to either move the ball forward 40 yards or at the 20 yard line if not enough room to move it 40 yards.

If you chose to return the punt and don't make it past that 40 yard line you were given or the 20 yard line, you have to take the ball at the 2 yard line.

In practice, its a football version of baseballs intentional walk.

King_Chief_Fan
12-06-2018, 08:05 AM
Eliminate punt.

notorious
12-06-2018, 08:06 AM
Don’t mess with it. It’s one of the most exciting, game-swaying plays in football.

ottawa_chiefs_fan
12-06-2018, 11:56 AM
Don’t mess with it. It’s one of the most exciting, brain-swaying plays in football.

FYP

Chief Pagan
12-06-2018, 03:39 PM
#7 - You know the NFL will want this one. Option #5, but the punter cannot be touched nor can initiate contact, and the punter must be female.

I think you mean the puntress.

Chief Pagan
12-06-2018, 03:42 PM
Make it a 15 yard penalty for kicking out of bounds.

I would make it a penalty for punts and kickoffs if the ball lands out of bounds.

If either one lands in bounds and then goes out no penalty.

Rain Man
12-06-2018, 05:12 PM
#11. Make punts a strategy-based game. Cover the field in hexagons. No one moves until the returner fields the punt. After that, a bell rings every two seconds, and upon each ring, players may move from one hexagon to the next. To account for speed, some players will get two hexagons of movement after every 3rd or 5th or 6th bell. If two players land in the same hexagon, they have to skip one bell until the defender can "disengage". As soon as someone gets into the same hexagon as the returner, he's considered tackled.

Easy 6
12-06-2018, 05:17 PM
#11. Make punts a strategy-based game. Cover the field in hexagons. No one moves until the returner fields the punt. After that, a bell rings every two seconds, and upon each ring, players may move from one hexagon to the next. To account for speed, some players will get two hexagons of movement after every 3rd or 5th or 6th bell. If two players land in the same hexagon, they have to skip one bell until the defender can "disengage". As soon as someone gets into the same hexagon as the returner, he's considered tackled.

LMAO sadly, I fear this is what its coming to

BWillie
12-06-2018, 06:17 PM
Prolly should just eliminate the forward pass, so WR's don't have to sustain contact.


Goodell is the worst thing to ever happen to the NFL.

I really do not like Trump - but the NFL should probably just get a GM who doesn't care what anybody thinks like our orange leader. And just tells people to kick rocks.

Chief Roundup
12-06-2018, 07:54 PM
I really do not like Trump - but the NFL should probably just get a GM who doesn't care what anybody thinks like our orange leader. And just tells people to kick rocks.

Uh.....I see someone did not see the other thread about this type of post.....

big nasty kcnut
12-06-2018, 08:05 PM
Get rid of block in the back penalty.

TribalElder
12-06-2018, 08:09 PM
after 10 yards it's anyones ball

Rain Man
12-06-2018, 08:27 PM
I really do not like Trump - but the NFL should probably just get a GM who doesn't care what anybody thinks like our orange leader. And just tells people to kick rocks.

There's a lot of evidence that Goodell doesn't care what I think.