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Mecca
12-07-2018, 11:02 AM
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There is a lot of Chiefs talk in this episode and honestly...it's not the kindest. They seem to think the Chiefs could lose to the Ravens and after Simms talks about how brutal the defense is Lefkoe goes "they're gonna lose in the 1st round again aren't they"...

ModSocks
12-07-2018, 11:03 AM
Where does the Chiefs talk start?

O.city
12-07-2018, 11:03 AM
Listened to it on the way to work this morning.

Chiefs defense can’t get stops and that’s gonna cost them in the playoffs.

It’s fucking maddening

ptlyon
12-07-2018, 11:04 AM
And?

Mecca
12-07-2018, 11:04 AM
Where does the Chiefs talk start?

It's spread through the entire show really, there's quite a bit of it.

There's a good chunk of it with Phil Simms, then he does his Raiders game film review where he basically says we suck.

The Franchise
12-07-2018, 11:04 AM
Listened to it on the way to work this morning.

Chiefs defense can’t get stops and that’s gonna cost them in the playoffs.

It’s fucking maddening

And this is why they need to tear the whole fucking thing down. I mean shit.....can it really be any worse than it is right now? Tear this bitch down from the coaching staff to the players and move to a 4-3.

The Franchise
12-07-2018, 11:05 AM
Where does the Chiefs talk start?

45:40 How can the Ravens beat the Chiefs?
48:37 Ravens are fired up to play for John Harbaugh
51:49 First thought if Ravens upset the Chiefs?
1:01:20 Chiefs vs Raiders Film Notebook
1:02:28 What’s wrong with the Chiefs defense?

staylor26
12-07-2018, 11:06 AM
Omg they said it so it’s happening!!!

O.city
12-07-2018, 11:06 AM
And this is why they need to tear the whole ****ing thing down. I mean shit.....can it really be any worse than it is right now? Tear this bitch down from the coaching staff to the players and move to a 4-3.

I’m fine with it

People will freak but I’m not sure I’d sign Jones or any current defender. We suck ass with you, I’m not paying you more for that

Pasta Little Brioni
12-07-2018, 11:06 AM
And we care about these chodes, why?

Beef Supreme
12-07-2018, 11:07 AM
Simms really goes off on Sutton's schemes.

Mecca
12-07-2018, 11:07 AM
Uh well it's probably the best NFL podcast and they have both been huge Mahomes backers...Lefkoe made that remark almost in disgust like he couldn't believe they were gonna waste this Mahomes season.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-07-2018, 11:07 AM
Teams have had to score 40 PLUS to win AT HOME WITH getting HUGE advantages in what and when penalties were called. Two TOP FIVE teams to boot.

LA and NE both get beat if flags were thrown fairly. Chiefs are basically an undefeated team even with that defense. Get home field and this is a scary team.

staylor26
12-07-2018, 11:07 AM
I’m fine with it

People will freak but I’m not sure I’d sign Jones or any current defender. We suck ass with you, I’m not paying you more for that

This is ****ing stupid LMAO

O.city
12-07-2018, 11:08 AM
Yeah they said stuff about the chiefs that’s true but not what we wanna hear so we’re out.

Pretty much

The Franchise
12-07-2018, 11:08 AM
I’m fine with it

People will freak but I’m not sure I’d sign Jones or any current defender. We suck ass with you, I’m not paying you more for that

1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Move Houston to SLB, Hitchens to MLB and DOD to WLB.
3. Draft Tillery at the end of Round 1 and let KPass and Speaks battle it out for a DE spot. KPass/Speaks - Nnadi/Williams - Jones - Tillery.
4. Spend a ton of draft capital on the CB and S positions

Mecca
12-07-2018, 11:09 AM
The stuff about the defense is maddening, it's not good listening to a guy legit ask "WTF are they even doing?"

O.city
12-07-2018, 11:09 AM
This is ****ing stupid LMAO

I get he makes a few big splash plays and maybe it’s. Scheme thing that hurts him but he has his issues

I’m not keen on paying guys big money with those types of issues

Mecca
12-07-2018, 11:09 AM
1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Move Houston to SLB, Hitchens to MLB and DOD to WLB.
3. Draft Tillery at the end of Round 1 and let KPass and Speaks battle it out for a DE spot. KPass/Speaks - Nnadi/Williams - Jones - Tillery.
4. Spend a ton of draft capital on the CB and S positions

At this point the defense is so far away from being fixed I think we should just sign Bell and go for 60 a game next year.

staylor26
12-07-2018, 11:09 AM
Uh well it's probably the best NFL podcast and they have both been huge Mahomes backers...Lefkoe made that remark almost in disgust like he couldn't believe they were gonna waste this Mahomes season.

Welp that settles it. Seasons over.

Jerm
12-07-2018, 11:10 AM
Lamar Jackson is not coming into Arrowhead and beating this team...

No team is coming into Arrowhead in Jan. and winning in the playoffs...

Not worried in the least.

O.city
12-07-2018, 11:10 AM
1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Move Houston to SLB, Hitchens to MLB and DOD to WLB.
3. Draft Tillery at the end of Round 1 and let KPass and Speaks battle it out for a DE spot. KPass/Speaks - Nnadi/Williams - Jones - Tillery.
4. Spend a ton of draft capital on the CB and S positions

Kpass is probably getting cut or traded

He doesn’t play now, there’s not much reason to think he’s a part of any plan

Mecca
12-07-2018, 11:11 AM
Welp that settles it. Seasons over.

That is really taking something out of context.

O.city
12-07-2018, 11:11 AM
The ravens will probably run for 180 or so.

Chiefs offense will have to be on point

KChiefs1
12-07-2018, 11:11 AM
Simms & Florio on PFT

https://youtu.be/vot2zDbFfVA

Pasta Little Brioni
12-07-2018, 11:11 AM
You basically have to play a perfect game offensively AND get pretty much every call to beat this Chiefs team. Think about that for a second.

carcosa
12-07-2018, 11:16 AM
ok so the defense isn't good

it's not historically bad, though

and the offense IS historically good

so

fuck off!!!! CHEIFS SUPER BOWL CHAMPS

BigRedChief
12-07-2018, 11:16 AM
The ravens will probably run for 180 or so.

Chiefs offense will have to be on pointEvery teams plan to beat great QB's in the modern era has centered around clock management and keeping the great QB on the sidelines.


Has any team done this to Mahomes and the Chiefs yet? Their QB is throwing 12-14 times a game. Thats going to keep up with Mahomes?

RunKC
12-07-2018, 11:17 AM
Lamar Jackson is not coming into Arrowhead and beating this team...

No team is coming into Arrowhead in Jan. and winning in the playoffs...

Not worried in the least.

The Chiefs have blown countless playoff games at home. We have 1 playoff win in Arrowhead in its 46 year history.

Yeah nothing to worry about here.

O.city
12-07-2018, 11:18 AM
The chiefs are asking Mahomes in his first year to carry the load and play perfect

That’s not ideal

Pasta Little Brioni
12-07-2018, 11:18 AM
Yeah, Run they suuuure had young, franchise QBs all those years...

Jerm
12-07-2018, 11:19 AM
The Chiefs have blown countless playoff games at home. We have 1 playoff win in Arrowhead in its 46 year history.

Yeah nothing to worry about here.

Yeah there's not because we have a QB now that isn't going to blow those leads....this is a different team, cannot compare it at all to teams of the past.

Would you rather be going to Foxboro for the AFC Championship game?

Pasta Little Brioni
12-07-2018, 11:19 AM
The chiefs are asking Mahomes in his first year to carry the load and play perfect

That’s not ideal

He's put up 26 plus points in his "off" weeks...The guy is a natural. The MJ of football.

carcosa
12-07-2018, 11:19 AM
The Chiefs have blown countless playoff games at home. We have 1 playoff win in Arrowhead in its 46 year history.

Yeah nothing to worry about here.

Mahomes, dumbass

Jerm
12-07-2018, 11:20 AM
The chiefs are asking Mahomes in his first year to carry the load and play perfect

That’s not ideal

They're 10-2...I'd say it's worked out pretty well so far.

And they're not asking him to be perfect, they've won games when he's been off.

loochy
12-07-2018, 11:20 AM
The chiefs are asking Mahomes in his first year to carry the load and play perfect

That’s not ideal

it's better than asking Alex Smith to do it
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ModSocks
12-07-2018, 11:20 AM
45:40 How can the Ravens beat the Chiefs?
48:37 Ravens are fired up to play for John Harbaugh
51:49 First thought if Ravens upset the Chiefs?
1:01:20 Chiefs vs Raiders Film Notebook
1:02:28 What’s wrong with the Chiefs defense?

Woot thanks

carcosa
12-07-2018, 11:21 AM
it's better than asking Alex Smith to do it
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yes damn kween!!!!! go off!!!!!!

wazu
12-07-2018, 11:21 AM
If you want the short version of this, I'd start at 1:03. There is lots of talk about Chiefs throughout the show, but this is where it starts to get interesting and the discussion goes to the problems with their defense. If you didn't already want Bob Sutton fired, you probably will after listening to this.

JakeF
12-07-2018, 11:21 AM
Gut the defense, including the coaches.

Can Ford and Houston play DE in a 4-3?


Ford, Nnadi, Jones, Houston
???, Hitchens, O'Daniels

St. Patty's Fire
12-07-2018, 11:22 AM
They both picked the Ravens to win in their gambling preview.

Honestly, I think they’re looking for an upset.

wazu
12-07-2018, 11:22 AM
45:40 How can the Ravens beat the Chiefs?
48:37 Ravens are fired up to play for John Harbaugh
51:49 First thought if Ravens upset the Chiefs?
1:01:20 Chiefs vs Raiders Film Notebook
1:02:28 What’s wrong with the Chiefs defense?

Didn't see this. Good breakdown, thanks.

carcosa
12-07-2018, 11:22 AM
I thought everyone agreed weeks ago that defense doesn't matter anymore

I mean yes I want Bob Sutton fired and the personnel overhauled, because a good defense is better than a bad defense, but....... is it really THAT big of a problem??

carcosa
12-07-2018, 11:23 AM
They both picked the Ravens to win in their gambling preview.

Honestly, I think they’re looking for an upset.

Bookies paying them to push some action to Baltimore

Red Dawg
12-07-2018, 11:24 AM
Hitchens gets coin and now sucks. Fuller was great and now he sucks.

Sutton cannot be allowed to come back in 19. KC media needs to put the heat on Clark to do something! Veach is not going to tell Andy shit.

IowaHawkeyeChief
12-07-2018, 11:25 AM
The Chiefs have blown countless playoff games at home. We have 1 playoff win in Arrowhead in its 46 year history.

Yeah nothing to worry about here.

How many of those games were with an MVP QB... New sheriff in town, the past crimes of the this franchise are immaterial...

Danguardace
12-07-2018, 11:25 AM
Chiefs only hope is HFA the defense plays better at Arrowhead.

Take that D on the road and we can forget about it.

IowaHawkeyeChief
12-07-2018, 11:28 AM
Chiefs only hope is HFA the defense plays better at Arrowhead.

Take that D on the road and we can forget about it.

In NE, Mahomes probably had his worst first quarter to start a game and we lost by 3. In LA we had 5 turnovers and lost by 3... We will be OK and have a chance anywhere.

wazu
12-07-2018, 11:30 AM
Simms has so much to criticize in this podcast about what Sutton is doing that Lefkoe finally had to just cut him off and make him stop so they could move on and the Chiefs wouldn't be the only topic covered.

bowener
12-07-2018, 11:32 AM
If you like sports betting you should listen to these guys. They are really good at their picks.

RunKC
12-07-2018, 11:32 AM
How many of those games were with an MVP QB... New sheriff in town, the past crimes of the this franchise are immaterial...

I’m with you man, but this franchise has lost playoff games in which the offense did not punt a single time and also scoring 44 points.

I hope like hell that Mahomes comes out in the divisional rd and destroys this goddamn curse.

bowener
12-07-2018, 11:33 AM
Simms has so much to criticize in this podcast about what Sutton is doing that Lefkoe finally had to just cut him off and make him stop so they could move on and the Chiefs wouldn't be the only topic covered.

Simms loves the fuck out of the Chiefs offense and will never stop gushing about Mahomes (for good reason). I love their show. Simms is hilarious at times.

Titty Meat
12-07-2018, 11:33 AM
Who cares?

wazu
12-07-2018, 11:39 AM
Who cares?

(Post 53)

Beef Supreme
12-07-2018, 11:43 AM
Bookies paying them to push some action to Baltimore

The line has gone down from 8 and a half to 6 and a half. The action was already on Baltimore.

wazu
12-07-2018, 11:52 AM
Although I found the discussion of Chiefs defense to be pretty interesting, I totally disagree with their take on KC/Baltimore. Rookie QB in Arrowhead rarely goes well. This same shitty Chiefs defense has been here all year, yet the Chiefs have beaten any team that isn't elite. Ravens aren't elite.

notorious
12-07-2018, 12:29 PM
Simms really goes off on Sutton's schemes.

He’s right.

Halfcan
12-07-2018, 12:50 PM
They both picked the Ravens to win in their gambling preview.

Honestly, I think they’re looking for an upset.

Dumb.

Ravens are not winning shit accept the privilege of being in the next Mahomes highlight film that Clay makes.

KChiefs1
12-07-2018, 12:52 PM
Chiefs defense at Arrowhead is completely different than the Chiefs defense on the road.

HFA is imperative.

tk13
12-07-2018, 01:21 PM
History says they are right. You don't have to be the 85 Bears, but generally teams with historic offenses and bottom 5 type defenses usually trip up somewhere along the line in the playoffs. Just too much pressure on the offense to be perfect when all the best teams have good QBs. Even in recent years as the game has changed... the teams that win it all usually have good to great defenses. We will see soon enough.

I'm not as confident as them that Baltimore is going to win this weekend though. I think the Seahawks game is just as scary because it's on the road, they have a top 10 D... and they're #1 in rushing with our old friend Mike Solari running the O-line. They are going to try and control the ball and they have the offense to do it.

Blick
12-07-2018, 01:25 PM
It will be interesting to see how Jackson plays and how our defense plays. I think Simms is right about Jackson being good enough to beat 1 on 1 coverage. We're going to stack the box and leave Nelson and Scandrick on islands. They're bad enough to give up plays and/or get flags to extend drives and all Jackson will have to do is throw the ball up.

bowener
12-07-2018, 01:41 PM
God this would be a game that a fully healthy Berry could take over and fuck the other team so hard.

CasselGotPeedOn
12-07-2018, 01:51 PM
Who in the AFC is gonna beat us at Arrowhead? Who? If we lose in the Super Bowl, so fucking be it. We haven't been there in 50 fucking years.

Chiefnj2
12-07-2018, 01:51 PM
Chiefs defense at Arrowhead is completely different than the Chiefs defense on the road.

HFA is imperative.

Is it HFA or quality of opponent at this point? They played better offensive teams on the road.

suzzer99
12-07-2018, 01:57 PM
The Chiefs have blown countless playoff games at home. We have 1 playoff win in Arrowhead in its 46 year history.

2 - Raiders and Steelers.