Let's talk about the Seahawks

[Hammock Parties]

*gulp*

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[Deberg_1990]

Another loss

[mr. tegu]

This is a game I have sort of thought of as a loss for a few weeks now. We will need help from the Ravens and Broncos unfortunately.

[KChiefs1]

Loss

[TribalElder]

seacrows are scrapping for a wildcard spot still?

[St. Patty's Fire]

Horrible matchup, which is exaxtly why we needed to beat the Chargers.

Doubt we win this.

[Three7s]

Seattle is what Baltimore wants to be. Chiefs had their chance.

[TLO]

Apathy

[Hammock Parties]

seacrows are scrapping for a wildcard spot still?

i just read they are locked into the 5 seed and can't improve

may be a silver lining

[kcpasco]

Lose by 6

[carcosa]

We'll win, you crybabies.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Chiefs will win by 10.

Have some GODDAMN FAITH

[KC_Connection]

Even you're panicking, Clay?

This Chiefs team is miles better than Seattle and still the best team in the league by a fair margin. And even if they do somehow not win the division/get the #1 seed (which is still the most likely outcome), Mahomes is clearly good enough to carry this team from the WC spot as well. Tonight's game changes nothing.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

They aren't very good.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Chiefs will win by 10.

Have some GODDAMN FAITH

Faith in this run defense?

Didn't we used to make fun of people for having faith in Matt Cassel? Alex Smith?

[Why Not?]

Ravens with a much better QB. Let's talk about our likely playoff game at Pittsburgh or Baltimore?

[mr. tegu]

i just read they are locked into the 5 seed and can't improve

may be a silver lining

This only applies if they win this weekend. If they do they clinch the five seed. If they lose they need to beat us.

[Prison Bitch]

Even you're panicking, Clay?

This Chiefs team is miles better than Seattle and still the best team in the league by a fair margin. And even if they do somehow not win the division/get the #1 seed (which is still the most likely outcome), Mahomes is clearly good enough to carry this team from the WC spot as well. Tonight's game changes nothing.

IT CHANGED NOTHING?!?!??!

[carcosa]

i just read they are locked into the 5 seed and can't improve

may be a silver lining

They can't get better than a 5 seed, but they have to win and the Vikings have to lose for them to be locked in. Otherwise they risk slipping to the 6.

[Hammock Parties]

Even you're panicking, Clay?

This Chiefs team is miles better than Seattle and still the best team in the league by a fair margin.

We needed a clutch drive to beat Oakland.

We're not the best team in the league.

[Why Not?]

i just read they are locked into the 5 seed and can't improve

may be a silver lining

I think they have to win this week first.

[Hammock Parties]

Chiefs will win by 10.

Have some GODDAMN FAITH

It's Russell Wilson, man.

He can completely negate our pass rush advantage.

I got a bad feeling about this.

[kcpasco]

Chiefs are gonna be 5 seed because Chiefs

[KC_Connection]

Ravens with a much better QB. Let's talk about our likely playoff game at Pittsburgh or Baltimore?
Except Baltimore has the #2 defense in the NFL and Seattle is #15. The Seahawks aren't stopping Mahomes.

[kcpasco]

It's Russell Wilson, man.

He can completely negate our pass rush advantage.

I got a bad feeling about this.

Lol 5 seed

[Molitoth]

Because Chiefs (and refs), they will lose.


Wilson with eat this defense, and keep Mahomes off the field.

[kcpasco]

Andy and Bob are still asssholes

[Hammock Parties]

Lol 5 seed

Going to Pitt would suck so bad

[KC_Connection]

We needed a clutch drive to beat Oakland.

We're not the best team in the league.
So who is? The Chargers? Because the stats all suggest they're #2 and the Chiefs just completely outplayed them.

All the NFL is these days (especially in the playoffs) is how good your QB is. And the Chiefs have just a bit of an edge there.

[mnchiefsguy]

Except Baltimore has the #2 defense in the NFL and Seattle is #15. The Seahawks aren't stopping Mahomes.

And our defense could not stop the University of Kansas offense the way it is playing.

Mahomes and the offense will put up 28-35 points....Seattle will score 40 and win.

No faith in the defense right now. Worst defense in the League with the worst DC and it is not even close.

Sutton is a complete idiot.

[Hammock Parties]

So who is? The Chargers? Because the stats all suggest they're #2 and the Chiefs just completely outplayed them.

All the NFL is these days (especially in the playoffs) is how good your QB is. And the Chiefs have just a bit of an edge there.

Rams and Saints are clearly better than the Chiefs.

Not sure about NE.

[mr. tegu]

Going to Pitt would suck so bad

Not as bad as losing to Baltimore. At least Pittsburgh has a QB.

[Three7s]

So who is? The Chargers? Because the stats all suggest they're #2 and the Chiefs just completely outplayed them.

All the NFL is these days (especially in the playoffs) is how good your QB is. And the Chiefs have just a bit of an edge there.
Why did the Chargers win tonight?

[TimeForWasp]

I want hammock party to shove this loss up his bragging asshole.

[Frazod]

Going to Pitt would suck so bad

Shit, at least we can beat them. Pray we don't end up going to Baltimore.

[mr. tegu]

For the first 55 minutes of a game the Chiefs are the best team. But when it becomes a close game at the end there are at least probably four teams significantly better.

[KC_Connection]

Rams and Saints are clearly better than the Chiefs.

Nah, Rams needed like 5 turnovers to go their way to only beat the Chiefs by a single score at home and Brees just completely got shut down by the Cowboys. Mahomes is better.


Not sure about NE.
NE is a joke.

[Best22]

Why did the Chargers win tonight?

Rivers is a good quarterback, just like Mahomes

We’re 1-1 with each other

[KC_Connection]

Why did the Chargers win tonight?
Because they're a damn good team with an elite QB that had the ball last.

[Rasputin]

I'm going buy four pieces of bubble gum and each quarter chew one up vigorously as I pace watching the game

[carcosa]

Chiefs have 10 days to rest and prepare for this game. They'll go in there ready to win.

[NJChiefsFan]

Because they're a damn good team with an elite QB that had the ball last.

They only had the ball last because their defense stopped ours. We should have had the ball last.

[mr. tegu]

Because they're a damn good team with an elite QB that had the ball last.

But he had it last because of Reid’s pattern of failure in these situations.

[Three7s]

They only had the ball last because their defense stopped ours. We should have had the ball last.
Reid was as much to blame for stopping us as the Chargers were.

[Hammock Parties]

I want hammock party to shove this loss up his bragging asshole.

dawg

ive been a naysaying jerk for almost a decade

i deserved a season to rock out with my cock out

[mnchiefsguy]

But he had it last because of Reid’s pattern of failure in these situations.


14 point lead in the 4th qtr....and Sutton blew it again.

Only problem I have with Reid is that he has not fucking fired Sutton yet.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Only positive for us is the extra half week off before hand to rest and prepare.

Must win games. Can’t lose another all season.

[Ajr27]

Chargers didn’t have Kennan Allen Melvin Gordon or Ellet neon at arrowhead. I love the Chiefs n am excited about Mahomes but let’s face it this is worst D in league. Watkins n Berry are taking up huge amount of cap n who knows if or when the’ll play. Losing hunt was huge, how many times did we see Mahomes get blitzed n dumb off to hunt for 25 yard gain. Now they blitz n he has to avoid getting killed while looking for hill n Kelce way up field. Anyway just stating obvious, without Watkins hunt, the weapons are average n this defensive secondary is horrible. 15 points in 4 min smfh

[NJChiefsFan]

Reid was as much to blame for stopping us as the Chargers were.

But in the process of comparing teams like kc connection was, aren't the coaches part of that package?

[jdh81_06]

Cheer up and have faith CP nation. These type of loses sting, but you learn from them and come back stronger. You learn the importance of closing games. Win or lose in the next two weeks, the Chiefs are in the playoffs and all the teams in the AFC should will be hoping that they don’t have to play us.

[dannybcaitlyn]

Mike Solari is o-line coach for the Hawks. They’ll run it down our throat and Wilson will do what he does to convert first downs or TD’s. Another bad day for the Chiefs.

[Frazod]

Cheer up and have faith CP nation. These type of loses sting, but you learn from them and come back stronger. You learn the importance of closing games. Win or lose in the next two weeks, the Chiefs are in the playoffs and all the teams in the AFC should will be hoping that they don’t have to play us.

What is there to learn from this? That our defense sucks? That Sutton is dumber than a lobotomized ape? That the league values big markets over the smallest market?

Everybody already knew these things.

[jimidollar]

Love all the happy horseshit in here. Sounds lke you guys have been fans for 5 minutes.

[Molitoth]

Cheer up and have faith CP nation. These type of loses sting, but you learn from them and come back stronger. You learn the importance of closing games. Win or lose in the next two weeks, the Chiefs are in the playoffs and all the teams in the AFC should will be hoping that they don’t have to play us.

Why? If I were an opposing team, I'd want to face Bob Sutton every week of the year.

Game planning against Sutton is like game planning against Alex Smith.

[Three7s]

But in the process of comparing teams like kc connection was, aren't the coaches part of that package?
Which was exactly my point when I asked KC_Connection why the Chargers won.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Seahawks will run all over us

[KC_Connection]

They only had the ball last because their defense stopped ours. We should have had the ball last.
And yet if we had let them score like 30 seconds sooner, we'd have won the game.

[Ajr27]

Love all the happy horseshit in here. Sounds lke you guys have been fans for 5 minutes.

Haha seriously! This shit happens year after year, good but not good enough.

[Why Not?]

Cheer up and have faith CP nation. These type of loses sting, but you learn from them and come back stronger. You learn the importance of closing games. Win or lose in the next two weeks, the Chiefs are in the playoffs and all the teams in the AFC should will be hoping that they don’t have to play us.

Yes, because if there's one thing Andy Reid has shown, it's that he's learned how to close out close games.

[KC_Connection]

But he had it last because of Reid’s pattern of failure in these situations.
Fair. But perhaps he will learn a lesson from this one for the games that actually matter (I am just about certain this Chiefs/Chargers game is happening again in January) to never even trust Sutton/the defense at all.

[NJChiefsFan]

And yet if we had let them score like 30 seconds sooner, we'd have won the game.

I don't disagree with some of this but I think you realize that the point here is that KC had the chance to have to ball last. Who has the ball last isn't always a coin toss. Chargers earned having it last through the players and coaches.

[Buckweath]

Zero concerned about that Seahawks game. If this team loses, it is shit to me. Going nowhere in the playoffs.

[RunKC]

Starting to prefer a loss. Would rather lose on the road than at home next month..

[jdh81_06]

What is there to learn from this? That our defense sucks? That Sutton is dumber than a lobotomized ape? That the league values big markets over the smallest market?

Everybody already knew these things.


Andy built this team on a high powered offense. The Chiefs made a decision at the trade deadline that they were going to out score football teams. The offense has slowed down in the last two weeks and the defense has delivered as expected. The learning experience is that you have to go out and close football games with your offense. Your defense might get a stand or two during the game but they are giving up points on almost every drive. If we don’t score 40 plus a game we probably don’t win from here on out.

[mr. tegu]

I don't disagree with some of this but I think you realize that the point here is that KC had the chance to have to ball last. Who has the ball last isn't always a coin toss. Chargers earned having it last through the players and coaches.

Even at the thirty yard line with a minute left and the clock running they where in no hurry. Had that been the Chiefs we score with a minute in the game and lose at the end regardless.

[KC_Connection]

dawg

ive been a naysaying jerk for almost a decade

i deserved a season to rock out with my cock out
And so was I. But then Mahomes became the best QB in the NFL in a league where virtually all that matters is QB play.

The Chiefs are still the #1 seed right now and every bit the SB contender they were a hour ago, it's time to simmer down.

[Halfcan]

NFL will rig this game like they do every one. NFL is not even worth watching. I will never pay for another ticket to this rigged bullshit--ever.

[Titty Meat]

If it's close we will lose

[KC_Connection]

I don't disagree with some of this but I think you realize that the point here is that KC had the chance to have to ball last. Who has the ball last isn't always a coin toss. Chargers earned having it last through the players and coaches.
And I don't disagree that the Chargers didn't earn it either. They've been the 2nd best team in the AFC for a reason. But the point is that the game could have so easily been a win with very little else changing and the mood would have been completely different in here (despite the Chiefs still being exactly the same team win or loss with virtually the same chance at a SB run).

[pugsnotdrugs19]

And so was I. But then Mahomes became the best QB in the NFL in a league where virtually all that matters is QB play.

The Chiefs are still the #1 seed right now and every bit the SB contender they were a hour ago, it's time to simmer down.

They’re going to beat the Chargers in a month. No one will wanna hear it or think about it right now, but it’s going to happen.

[NJChiefsFan]

And I don't disagree that the Chargers didn't earn it either. They've been the 2nd best team in the AFC for a reason. But the point is that the game could have so easily been a win with very little else changing and the mood would have been completely different in here (despite the Chiefs still being exactly the same team win or loss with virtually the same chance at a SB run).

So perhaps we are disagreeing over semantics.

[007]

Let's wait until Sunday to discuss this

[ping2000]

Let's wait until Sunday to discuss thisNo shit. Too early.

[NJChiefsFan]

Let's wait until Sunday to discuss this

No shit. Too early.

Of all the displaced emotions and attention right now this thread might be the most healthy.

[KC_Connection]

They’re going to beat the Chargers in a month. No one will wanna hear it or think about it right now, but it’s going to happen.
I told a Chargers fan this afternoon that the Chiefs/Chargers game that I really wanted to win was the one in January (and it's coming), not tonight. Sure it would have been nice to win this one and lock up the division, but doing that isn't guaranteeing you wins when it actually matters. And all that really matters is how we perform a few weeks from now.

[BWillie]

I would only put money on this game if it was Seattle -3.5 or more

[ping2000]

Of all the displaced emotions and attention right now this thread might be the most healthy.I just want to wake tomorrow, watch the news, and hope the lead story is Sutton and most of the defense caught on tape with hookers and blow. And I hope the tape shows the hookers kicking their asses.

[OnTheWarpath15]

They’re going to beat the Chargers in a month. No one will wanna hear it or think about it right now, but it’s going to happen.

They gave up 140 yards rushing and a TD to two scrubs. And another 20 yards rushing and a TD to a goddamn WR.

Anyone care to guess what they give up when Gordon and Ekeler return?

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Seattle wins by double digits.

Chiefs have to pray that Phyllis loses to the Ravens or Donkos.


That’s the only path to the #1 seed at this point . . . . .

[greg63]

Given the Chiefs defensive performance Thursday I hold out little hope that they could stop a stone rolling up hill. I just hope that the Chiefs offense can somehow score more often than the Sea Hags do.

[big nasty kcnut]

We win this game because it ten days off and we will be rested and healthy.

[gold_and_red]

If the two losses to the Raiders on TNF are any indication then it would seem that this team will be in a funk for the rest of the season.
For Andy until now it was choosing between Alex and the D to close out games, he was screwed either way. I am praying that last night's debacle gave him a clear answer on what this D is capable of playoff games.

[Why Not?]

Seattle wins by double digits.

Chiefs have to pray that Phyllis loses to the Ravens or Donkos.


That’s the only path to the #1 seed at this point . . . . .

Plus would need another Pats loss at that point. But it doesn’t matter. Our defense and coaching staff are quite capable of losing to a good team at home or on the road

[CupidStunt]

Fuck all the pussies early in this thread. I skipped too fast to pay attention. Obviously a dumb time to post. The Chiefs will win this game handily. I'm pissed and salty about last night, too, but let's not forget the Chargers are EASILY a top 5 team in the NFL. This wasn't yesteryear where we lost to a scrub team. We're 11-3 with 3 losses by a TOTAL of 7 points, while scoring 109 points.

We're going to rape the Seahawks. And we're obviously going to rape the Raiders. We're gonna be 13-3, the 1 seed in the AFC, and all we can do is pray the coaches start getting more out of some of these turds especially on D.

[notorious]

They love the deep ball and the Chiefs are horrible at defending it.

[kcpasco]

Wilson is the real deal and the Seahawks will be amped to stop this Chiefs offense. Andy will try and nurse a 4th quarter lead and Sutton will poop himself.

[HC_Chief]

They love the deep ball and the Chiefs are horrible at defending it.

What are the Chiefs not horrible at defending? :<

[dj56dt58]

Rams and Saints are clearly better than the Chiefs.

Not sure about NE.

No..

and the Rams needed about 15 gift calls from the refs to win by 3

in LA

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I’d love for Chief Northman to come on here and re-post that thing he said last night before the Chargers game about how we’d lose the game but still win HFA and the super bowl...

[SuperBowl4]

We'll win, you crybabies.:thumb: Losing one point to the cHargers and it's doom and gloom the season is lost, meanwhile the CHIEFS still lead the division, are in the playoffs, and own the tie-breaker over the cHargers! This is what it must feel like being a Browns fan. Totally SUCKS! ROFL

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Seattle is not only a incredibly tough place to play, but they do things that match up well against KC.

They’re going to run the ball 40 times and I don’t have hardly any faith that we will do shit about it.

[notorious]

What are the Chiefs not horrible at defending? :<

Touché.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

You. Fucking. Pussies.

Already chalking up a loss vs a QB who threw for 72 yds and 0 TDs at home last week, and a defense that doesn't really excel at anything.

Hopefully the team isn't made up of the same type of self-pitying puzzies as this board.

[Joe Seahawk]

You. ****ing. Pussies.

Already chalking up a loss vs a QB who threw for 72 yds and 0 TDs at home last week, and a defense that doesn't really excel at anything.

Hopefully the team isn't made up of the same type of self-pitying puzzies as this board.

Most Seahawk fans are also chocking this one up as a loss. It most likely wont mean anything to us. I personally feel like we can win that one due to the night game magic at the Clink.

Sorry for your tough loss last night, Brutal!

https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1063310160720879616/photo/1

[PAChiefsGuy]

More than likely a loss. We arent playing well now and they are. It's a bad matchup and Seattle is a tough place to play. Lose by 7.

Hope I am wrong

[gold_and_red]

Most Seahawk fans are also chocking this one up as a loss. It most likely wont mean anything to us. I personally feel like we can win that one due to the night game magic at the Clink.

Sorry for your tough loss last night, Brutal!

https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1063310160720879616/photo/1

Not sure of the source of your pessimism. Keep running the ball to play keep away and your D is fierce at home.

[Rain Man]

You. ****ing. Pussies.

Already chalking up a loss vs a QB who threw for 72 yds and 0 TDs at home last week, and a defense that doesn't really excel at anything.

Hopefully the team isn't made up of the same type of self-pitying puzzies as this board.

I'm running that through the Chiefs defense translator, and it comes out as 346 yards and 4 touchdowns, two of which will happen on the last drive of the game.

[siberian khatru]

I'm running that through the Chiefs defense translator, and it comes out as 346 yards and 4 touchdowns, two of which will happen on the last drive of the game.

"Wait ... the Seahawks aren't going for 2. They're going for 6 again!"

[Iconic]

Man I just have very little belief right now. Our offense is displaying a bad pattern. No one wants to talk about it but in the clutch we seem to be developing a standard of wasting our last few possessions. Look back at each of our losses. In each one, all we had to do was churn a little time off the clock, keep possession on our last or second to last drives, and we'd be in position to either win or tie.

We couldn't do it.

Not with 3:49 left, up by 7 against the Chargers.

Not with 1:49 and 0:50 left, down by 3 against the Rams.

Not with 5:25 left, down 4 against the Patriots.

Look our defense is ass we all know it. But our offense has to pick up the slack. It can't waste key possessions in pivotal moments and ask our dog shit defense to make a stop. Because it won't.

[Jerm]

Can this game still be flexed out?

Wonder if they might move Baltimore at LA into that slot...

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Most Seahawk fans are also chocking this one up as a loss. It most likely wont mean anything to us. I personally feel like we can win that one due to the night game magic at the Clink.

Sorry for your tough loss last night, Brutal!

https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1063310160720879616/photo/1

Don't get me wrong, they can easily lose this game, and any team that runs well is a concern for KC. But the Chiefs will have 10 days to prepare and get some key players healthy.

Question for you: Do you think Seattle's rushing total is partly due to having to lean on the run game disproportionately? Or is this exactly what they want to be?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Can this game still be flexed out?

Wonder if they might move Baltimore at LA into that slot...

Baltimore and LA play on Saturday

[RaidersOftheCellar]

So all of you are counting out Mahomes? You don't have faith that he'll go out and put up 30 plus if needed?

He's failed once in a do or die situation, and that was because his arm was hit as he threw. He's simultaneously the ultimate competitor and ultimate talent, and he's nails when it gets desperate. Last night they felt like they had the game wrapped up. I don't get the sense that there was an urgency to move the ball on the last posession. Or an urgency throughout the game in general. They thought they were in control.

There will be urgency next week. They will treat it like a playoff game. Don't be pussies. We're not asking Alex Smith to go win in Pittsburgh here.

[KChiefs1]

5th seed might be their best bet.

Arrowhead is no home field advantage.

Beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh & beat the Chargers in LA. & Patriots in Foxborough.

Easy enough.

[arrwheader]

Trying. To. Stay. Positive. Failing.

Ugh what a tough loss.

[Why Not?]

So all of you are counting out Mahomes? You don't have faith that he'll go out and put up 30 plus if needed?

He's failed once in a do or die situation, and that was because his arm was hit as he threw. He's simultaneously the ultimate competitor and ultimate talent, and he's nails when it gets desperate. Last night they felt like they had the game wrapped up. I don't get the sense that there was an urgency to move the ball on the last posession. Or an urgency throughout the game in general. They thought they were in control.

There will be urgency next week. They will treat it like a playoff game. Don't be pussies. We're not asking Alex Smith to go win in Pittsburgh here.

I have 100% faith in Patrick Mahomes. Sadly, it's cancelled out by the 0% faith I have in Andy Reid and Buttons

[ptlyon]

Most Seahawk fans are also chocking this one up as a loss. It most likely wont mean anything to us. I personally feel like we can win that one due to the night game magic at the Clink.

Sorry for your tough loss last night, Brutal!

https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1063310160720879616/photo/1

Nice to see you Joe!

[RaidersOftheCellar]

This game will likely mean nothing to Seattle but everything to the Chiefs, and most of you are still chalking it up as a loss. Unbelievable level of cowardice.

Take away a couple bogus penalties last night and we're celebrating a division title and everybody's ecstatic about Super Bowl possibilities. Laughable.

[Joe Seahawk]

Don't get me wrong, they can easily lose this game, and any team that runs well is a concern for KC. But the Chiefs will have 10 days to prepare and get some key players healthy.

Question for you: Do you think Seattle's rushing total is partly due to having to lean on the run game disproportionately? Or is this exactly what they want to be?

This is the formula they want, remember we have a schottenheimer rbbc

[Why Not?]

I'm not sure why people think this game will mean nothing to Seattle.

1. Let's not assume they automatically go on the road against a division opponent and win less than a month after beating that opponent. Seattle is and should be favored but not even by a TD. Anything can happen. But, okay. Let's say Seattle wins:


2. Week 16. You're not tuning your guys down two weeks in a row. Week 17? Sure. But not yet.

3. Seattle will make the playoffs. Seattle has a Super Bowl winning coach and QB. Their goal will be to win the Super Bowl. They have an opportunity, at home, to deal a significant blow to a team that would be a threat to beat them in a Super Bowl matchup. You don't think they're going to play hard?

[Best22]

Even if it’s “meaningless” Seattle will still come to play. These guys get paid big bucks to perform week in and week out (even the Raiders). Carroll won’t let his guys rest, he always has his guys on edge.

Biggest game of the season.

[Spott]

Just realized this game is on Sunday night. We definitely aren’t winning next week.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

I'm not sure why people think this game will mean nothing to Seattle.

1. Let's not assume they automatically go on the road against a division opponent and win less than a month after beating that opponent. Seattle is and should be favored but not even by a TD. Anything can happen. But, okay. Let's assume Seattle wins:


2. Week 16. You're not tuning your guys down two weeks in a row. Week 17? Sure. But not yet.

3. Seattle will make the playoffs. Seattle has a Super Bowl winning coach and QB. Their goal will be to win the Super Bowl. They have an opportunity, at home, to deal a significant blow to a team that would be a threat to beat them in a Super Bowl matchup. You don't think they're going to play hard?

That's your idea of motivation? Really? Give me a break.

They'll be motivated to play well because it's a night game vs a good team and MVP candidate. But teams take it to another level of motivation when they "need" the win. And I'll take my chances with a desperate Mahomes and a full game of Eric Berry.

[Why Not?]

They'll be motivated to play well because it's a night game vs a good team and MVP candidate.

You literally posted in your last post that this game will likely mean nothing to Seattle and then give yet another reason they have for playing inspired. Look dude, I certainly hope you're right and the Chiefs win but I don't see it. I'll gladly post here and sing your praises next Sunday night if I'm wrong.

[Blick]

Will be interesting to see where we're at health wise.

Russell Wilson worries me a lot against this defense. They can run the ball like the Ravens, but he's a million times better than Lamar Jackson. Wilson has that same quality that Mahomes has with his ability to extend plays and make things happen when they're not there.

Seattle is a bad matchup for our run D and Wilson is a bad matchup for a secondary that will be asked to cover extended plays. We're either gonna get smoked or get a bunch of flags.

[bobbything]

Seattle is going to limit our offense to like 5 total possessions. It's going to be ugly as balls. We probably lose like 27-24.

[Jimkcchief88]

I just want to wake tomorrow, watch the news, and hope the lead story is Sutton and most of the defense caught on tape with hookers and blow. And I hope the tape shows the hookers kicking their asses.

Nooooo, we need Sutton and the players(esp the black ones) kicking the hookers asses so they all get Kareem Hunt’ed:)

[RunKC]

These guys know this is a must win game. We’re going to find out an awful lot about this team.

Optimistic runkc hopes a win would really help boost confidence after a major disappointment last night.

[Easy 6]

First game this year I've felt we're gonna lose

Lost our best CB, the O line is swooning, our safeties are the worst in the league sans Berry, no one knows where the fuck to line up... it all adds up to a late season meltdown

[Hammock Parties]

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[58-4ever]

Great run game, but Pete won't be able to help himself by going to the pass when he gets down by 10. That's what we need to do. Quiet the crowd quickly, and rush the living daylights out of RW3

[kcpasco]

Wilson is at his best down in the 4th quarter. Sutton is primed for another collapse.

[kcpasco]

Asshole Andy needs to try and keep scoring this game because if Seattle is within 1 score they are winning late in the 4th.

[gold_and_red]

Asshole Andy needs to try and keep scoring this game because if Seattle is within 2 scores they are winning late in the 4th.

FYP

[notorious]

I feel a lot better going into the 4th quarter 7 down than 7 up. How sad is that?

[ptlyon]

I feel a lot better going into the 4th quarter 7 down than 7 up. How sad is that?

It's just the opposite of in the 90s we all wanted our defense on the field instead of the offense. Had a better shot at scoring.

[Why Not?]

I feel a lot better going into the 4th quarter 7 down than 7 up. How sad is that?

Not only do I agree, I'll raise you one. 1 minute left in the game. Down 4 with the ball or up 4 playing defense?

Right, me to.

[Best22]

We blew a 17 point 4th quarter lead against Oakland

Mahomes came out firing, put team on his back, and drove down the field for the winning score. One of his best moments this season. Roethlisberger couldn’t even carry his team like that

Our best hope to close out games is to ATTACK. Mahomes doesn’t comprehend how to “preserve” a lead, he can only BUILD ON ONE! Let him

[gold_and_red]

We blew a 17 point 4th quarter lead against Oakland

Mahomes came out firing, put team on his back, and drove down the field for the winning score. One of his best moments this season. Roethlisberger couldn’t even carry his team like that

Our best hope to close out games is to ATTACK. Mahomes doesn’t comprehend how to “preserve” a lead, he can only BUILD ON ONE! Let him

Oh yeah, forgot that the D almost blew the Oakland game too.

[PAChiefsGuy]

So all of you are counting out Mahomes? You don't have faith that he'll go out and put up 30 plus if needed?

He's failed once in a do or die situation, and that was because his arm was hit as he threw. He's simultaneously the ultimate competitor and ultimate talent, and he's nails when it gets desperate. Last night they felt like they had the game wrapped up. I don't get the sense that there was an urgency to move the ball on the last posession. Or an urgency throughout the game in general. They thought they were in control.

There will be urgency next week. They will treat it like a playoff game. Don't be pussies. We're not asking Alex Smith to go win in Pittsburgh here.

It's a team game. I have faith in all of our Pro Bowl players especially Mahomes but the rest of the team, not so much.

[bricks]

Asshole Andy needs to try and keep scoring this game because if Seattle is within 1 score they are winning late in the 4th.

What he needs to do is prevent the team from getting the ball back with plenty of time left on the clock to allow for a score.

Because Christ for the love of God we ain’t stopping the other team from scoring on the final drive of the game. Especially if it is a playoff team. I have no faith in the defense to hold up.

This isn’t the first time Andy has allowed Rivers time to score and win the game. Andy can’t learn for **** sakes how to manage a game the right way. He doesn’t have that in his DNA or profile and that is why he will never be a champion.

[kcpasco]

Team is not gonna lose to the Raiders because they are to talented. Gonna get their dicks kicked by the Seahags though because Andy and Bob. Can only hope Chargers drop a game.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Chiefs will be 5th seed after Seattle game.
Travel and do their normal Houdini trick and disappear from the playoffs in first round.
Why? Because Andy, Bob and Chiefs

[TEX]

Team is not gonna lose to the Raiders because they are to talented. Gonna get their dicks kicked by the Seahags though because Andy and Bob. Can only hope Chargers drop a game.

Yep. Primed to clinch the 5th seed now. Then done.

[Coochie liquor]

And our defense could not stop the University of Kansas offense the way it is playing.

Mahomes and the offense will put up 28-35 points....Seattle will score 40 and win.

No faith in the defense right now. Worst defense in the League with the worst DC and it is not even close.

Sutton is a complete idiot.

How many times have they scored 40 this season??


Looks like once against the 9ers.

[kcpasco]

Close game until late in the 4th where Seattle is good. Wilson is really good late in ballgames even if he sucks ass for 3 1/2 quarters.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Chiefs 31 Seattle 24

[Coochie liquor]

Dear pussies who are still locked in the past. Please note Alice Smith is no longer our qb. No team goes undefeated and wins the championship except 1 team many moons ago. Relax, Showtime has this under control. Let’s get healthy and watch the fireworks.

[Hammock Parties]

Dear pussies who are still locked in the past. Please note Alice Smith is no longer our qb. No team goes undefeated and wins the championship except 1 team many moons ago. Relax, Showtime has this under control. Let’s get healthy and watch the fireworks.

It's not that we lost.

It's how we lost. It's where we lost.

We are no longer invincible at Arrowhead.

[Red Dawg]

It's not that we lost.

It's how we lost. It's where we lost.

We are no longer invincible at Arrowhead.

When were ever invincible at Arrowhead? During all the playoff losses? Is that when?
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[kcpasco]

It's not that we lost.

It's how we lost. It's where we lost.

We are no longer invincible at Arrowhead.

It’s not the 1990’s anymore. HFA is a myth. I’d much rather have a defensive coordinator that could not shit his pants in big games.

[Chris Meck]

we're going to lose this game. I have zero doubt.

[scho63]

Only the Chiefs can find a way to go from #1 seed to #5 seed in the last 3 games of the season.

A loss here or at home against Oakland and we are one and done in the playoffs. Add in all the mounting injuries and craptastic defense and once again...........

BECAUSE CHIEFS!!! :banghead:

[Hammock Parties]

This could be epic, boys.

Our backs are against the wall.

You know what Andy Reid's teams do when their backs are against the wall?

THEY FIGHT

THEY WIN

Week 16 and 17 the last two years.

WE FOUGHT

AND WE WON

You know what Patrick Mahomes does when his back is against the wall?

HE RUNS

AND HE THROWS

HE FIGHTS

AND HE WINS

We got a big showdown coming up and history is on our side

Cus this ain't the fucking playoffs. Yet.

Regular season? We got this.

And then we'll get our confidence back. Our Mahomojo full restored by a win in Seattle, we buttfuck the Raiders and ride high with the road to the Super Bowl coming through MAHOMES COUNTRY.

This could be awesome.

I'm not even drunk.

[Best22]

Only the Chiefs can find a way to go from #1 seed to #5 seed in the last 3 games of the season.

A loss here or at home against Oakland and we are one and done in the playoffs. Add in all the mounting injuries and craptastic defense and once again...........

BECAUSE CHIEFS!!! :banghead:

It makes no difference whether it’s road or home.

Either we go out and beat a team in the playoffs or we don’t. This offense is more slowpaced and conservative at home. Fans get nervous, effects players, then we choke

Put us on the road and let Mahomes rip it for 60 minutes then maybe we’ll walk away with a 45-40 win

Everything is set up for a playoff run. We rested injured players (just like LAC) because both teams know it’s more important to be healthy in January than December. Both teams will get stars back. We could go 15-1 and it wouldn’t mean sh*t if everyone was hurt

Heal up and get hot for a big run

[gold_and_red]

It makes no difference whether it’s road or home.

Either we go out and beat a team in the playoffs or we don’t. This offense is more slowpaced and conservative at home. Fans get nervous, effects players, then we choke

Put us on the road and let Mahomes rip it for 60 minutes then maybe we’ll walk away with a 45-40 win

Everything is set up for a playoff run. We rested injured players (just like LAC) because both teams know it’s more important to be healthy in January than December. Both teams will get stars back. We could go 15-1 and it wouldn’t mean sh*t if everyone was hurt

Heal up and get hot for a big run

HFA to the Chiefs matter little given playoff history and Reid's KC tenure. When was the last time Reid's Chiefs got blown out on the road or were utterly non-competitive? @Packers 2015, @Steelers 2016 (LOL Alex vs HoFers) and maybe once when Manning was at his peak in Denver, any others?
I am much more looking forward to Mahomes on the road even if it means one extra game. The team seems to play more loose and with a carefree attitude.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

It makes no difference whether it’s road or home.

Either we go out and beat a team in the playoffs or we don’t. This offense is more slowpaced and conservative at home. Fans get nervous, effects players, then we choke

Put us on the road and let Mahomes rip it for 60 minutes then maybe we’ll walk away with a 45-40 win

Everything is set up for a playoff run. We rested injured players (just like LAC) because both teams know it’s more important to be healthy in January than December. Both teams will get stars back. We could go 15-1 and it wouldn’t mean sh*t if everyone was hurt

Heal up and get hot for a big run

There might be some truth to this, but I’d still rather have the bye + HFA.

That’s something they’re gonna need to get over anyways with Mahomes being here. Probably gonna play a lot of home playoff games.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Some nuggets from PFF about Seattle, FWIW:

- 4 of 5 Seattle offensive linemen are currently graded as ‘below average’. Only LT Duane Brown is graded better.
- Chris Carson is the #5 ranked RB.
- Starting cornerbacks Shaquille Griffin and Tre Flowers are both ranked 104th and 74th overall amongst cornerbacks.
- Bobby Wagner is the #1 rated ILB.
- The interior DL is relatively average or worse across the board.
- Frank Clark is the #29 edge defender, Dion Jordan is #59, and Barkevious Mingo is #65.

I don’t think these ratings are ever gospel by any means but I do believe that they kinda confirm my initial feelings on this game—Seattle isn’t supremely talented, they’re well coached and gritty. They have a good quarterback to lead the offense and a great linebacker to lead the defense.

The Chiefs are the better team with extra days of rest. But they’re going into a brutal environment on SNF against a solid team. Hopefully the Chiefs are much more motivated given their playoff positioning than Seattle, who is locked into the 5 seed.

All things considered, I don’t see how the Seattle defense hangs with KC’s offense man for man. It’s a tough matchup. I suspect they’ll try to double Kelce and Hill a lot, and because of that I don’t expect much pressure beyond 4 guys. Or they could decide to send more pressure and leave Hill and Kelce 1 on 1 against dramatically inferior players.

The run defense better show up and at least contain Seattle. Can’t have super long drives all night. Wishful thinking probably, but that’s how Seattle will try to win.

[KChiefs1]

Seahawks have nothing to play for, while the Chiefs have everything to play for.

That said they are a beast at home.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Seahawks have nothing to play for, while the Chiefs have everything to play for.

That said they are a beast at home.

LAC beat them in Seattle this year. They’ve got some really impressive road wins.

LAR won there and GB gave them all they could handle. It’s a tough spot but a good team like KC should definitely be in it until the end, and given the situation, they should win IMO.

[CoMoChief]

If SEA runs it every play (literally), they'll win by 10.

[Hammock Parties]

they might especially have nothing to play for after sunday

it'd be pretty funny if we locked up the #1 seed because they sat half their starters

troll job on NE and SD

[Hammock Parties]

Seahawks could be in position to rest starters as early as Week 16

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/12/12/18138263/seahawks-rest-starters-week-16-nfl-playoff-picture-2018

Seattle is currently 1.5 games up on the Minnesota Vikings, and two games clear of everyone else in the wild card race. They can clinch the #5 seed as early as Week 15 if the following happens:

Seahawks win AND:

Vikings tie or lose to Dolphins

This means that there is a non-zero chance the Chiefs vs. Seahawks game in Week 16 is meaningless to both sides, with Kansas City potentially having clinched the #1 seed in the AFC and Seattle the #5 seed in the NFC.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Seahawks have nothing to play for, while the Chiefs have everything to play for.

That said they are a beast at home.

This fanbase doesn't deserve Mahomes.

Throwing in the towel vs an average team in a game that will mean nothing to them. Pathetic.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

They gave up 140 yards rushing and a TD to two scrubs. And another 20 yards rushing and a TD to a goddamn WR.

Anyone care to guess what they give up when Gordon and Ekeler return?

Well, Gordon had 64 yards on 15 carries in September, when the Chiefs beat the Chargers by 10. People have short memories, though.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Seattle wins by double digits.

Chiefs have to pray that Phyllis loses to the Ravens or Donkos.


That’s the only path to the #1 seed at this point . . . . .

ROFL

What would make you think they'll lose by double digits? They haven't lost by more than 3 points all year, and they've played several teams that are better than Seattle. Man, you people overreact to every minor setback.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Can this game still be flexed out?

Wonder if they might move Baltimore at LA into that slot...

Why in the hell would they flex out of an 11-3 vs. 8-5 game?

[Why Not?]

Why in the hell would they flex out of an 11-3 vs. 8-5 game?

Not to mention flex changes have to be announced two weeks prior

[Chiefshrink]

Even you're panicking, Clay?

This Chiefs team is miles better than Seattle and still the best team in the league by a fair margin. And even if they do somehow not win the division/get the #1 seed (which is still the most likely outcome), Mahomes is clearly good enough to carry this team from the WC spot as well. Tonight's game changes nothing.

You clearly do not have football eyes. Seattle is hitting on all cylinders right now where we on the other hand are playing with a defense that couldn't stop a pop warner team. The formula by everyone who plays us will be 1)contain PM2 in the pocket with heavy interior pressure, 2)run the ball to keep PM2 off the field, and 3)force PM2 to be perfect on every possession scoring a TD.

Why do you think LAC went for the 2 pt. conversion on the road especially when wins are absolute at this point ? They know they are in the playoffs regardless and don't care where there seed is and knew pretty confidently playing our pop warner defense they could succeed. But they will be damned if they remotely give PM2 a chance to drive the field and score 7 in OT.:hmmm:

[dannybcaitlyn]

Seahawks could be in position to rest starters as early as Week 16

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/12/12/18138263/seahawks-rest-starters-week-16-nfl-playoff-picture-2018

That loss wounded our confidence so bad , people are praying the Seahawks rest starters. Lol

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Saw today that all Seahawks losses have come to teams with 9 or more wins

[CapsLockKey]

Saw today that all Seahawks losses have come to teams with 9 or more winsThey have only beaten one team currently above .500. Dallas early in the year.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Saw today that all Seahawks losses have come to teams with 9 or more wins

I think we’re gonna get ‘em. Chiefs will be locked in knowing that they are essentially playing for home field or to have to be the 5 seed.

Reid will have a great plan ready with the 10 day layoff I believe. Just need top level execution.

[kccrow]

10 days of rest and preparation. Pissed off coming off a loss. Seahawks possessing mediocre offense and defense. KC is going to absolutely trash these punks. I'll even be nice and give the Hags some garbage points. Chiefs 45 - Seahawks 20.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

10 days of rest and preparation. Pissed off coming off a loss. Seahawks possessing mediocre offense and defense. KC is going to absolutely trash these punks. I'll even be nice and give the Hags some garbage points. Chiefs 45 - Seahawks 20.

This. I want this.

But I’ll settle for a Chiefs win in any possible way.

[loce1959]

As long as Andy calls the shots during the draft our defense is going to look like this. Defense needs to become at least an equal partner. Man up the scouting department, decide on a scheme and draft and trade for players that fit that scheme.

[Chief Northman]

I’m not confident the Chiefs get back on track.

The loss to the Chargers was a gut punch. The coaching job was reminiscent of recent playoff chokes where the defense was confused, porous and reeling late in the game. The offense took penalties and Reid couldn’t scheme Kelce or Hill to make an impact. Berry’s presence was possibly a distraction and although the running back by committee approach has been decent since Hunt’s release there is no doubt that the Hunt debacle has rattled this team.

The defense is poorly coached, the deployment is questionable and with their confidence at a low point, they’ve accrued another devastating injury with the loss of Fuller.
Dropping Mahomes back to pass 40+ times cannot compensate for the futility of this defense. The Seahawks are a bad matchup. They will play ball control and eat clock, but roast our secondary with timely play-action shots. Baldwin will be back to bring more balance to Seattles offense. Their defense will take Hill and Kelce away.

I want to be able to turn the page on the LA game and be positive, but Thursday night was deja vu. I’ve seen this too often to be fooled again by yet another regular season lion turned lamb when games are meaningful.

[Hammock Parties]

Fuller won't miss any games.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Re:ChiefNorthman—Fuller isn’t supposed to be out based on all I’ve read and heard about.

Where’s the enthusiasm you had pregame Thursday? You wrote up that big storyline and said we’d lose to LA, somehow, some way. But we’d get back on track and wind up getting to the Super Bowl.

You got the first part right, why veer off now? :shrug:

[Chief Northman]

Re:ChiefNorthman—Fuller isn’t supposed to be out based on all I’ve read and heard about.

Where’s the enthusiasm you had pregame Thursday? You wrote up that big storyline and said we’d lose to LA, somehow, some way. But we’d get back on track and wind up getting to the Super Bowl.

You got the first part right, why veer off now? :shrug:

It’s the WAY we lost. The Chargers get some credit here too, they are outstanding and were due. But after an encouraging 3 quarters, watching the Chiefs implode with the penalties, and awful secondary play convinced me that this group is not “all in”. To have the breakdowns they did this late in a season are signs of a regressing squad. Too late this season, but Reid needs to fire the entire defensive coaching staff, put his ego/loyalty aside and turn that side of the ball over to a respected, reputable coordinator who can teach, recruit and inspire.

[Chief Northman]

And thanks for the Fuller update pugs and Clay. I was under the impression Fuller was done for the regular season.

[A Salt Weapon]

This game will likely mean nothing to Seattle but everything to the Chiefs, and most of you are still chalking it up as a loss. Unbelievable level of cowardice.

Take away a couple bogus penalties last night and we're celebrating a division title and everybody's ecstatic about Super Bowl possibilities. Laughable.

Take away a couple bogus penalties in 3 different games and we’re undefeated.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Saw today that all Seahawks losses have come to teams with 9 or more wins

They lost to the Broncos.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Need Fuller our there for certain. This is the kind of opponent that he helps most against, one that has a really good slot WR.

[RunKC]

This game is going to tell us what kind of team this is going to be this year. Andy’s teams are always soft and cave under pressure year after year.

You just lost your worst game of the season. If this team is going to have any chance to win in January it needs its confidence back. We need this win badly.

Get the win, get healthy and FFS please win in January.

[Chief Northman]

This game is going to tell us what kind of team this is going to be this year. Andy’s teams are always soft and cave under pressure year after year.

You just lost your worst game of the season. If this team is going to have any chance to win in January it needs its confidence back. We need this win badly.

Get the win, get healthy and FFS please win in January.

Yeah, pretty much this. The response to the Chargers game will say everything about this group.

[mcaj22]

so the Chiefs defense has about a week to figure out how to stop the run. Yeah, that's not happening.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

This game is going to tell us what kind of team this is going to be this year. Andy’s teams are always soft and cave under pressure year after year.

You just lost your worst game of the season. If this team is going to have any chance to win in January it needs its confidence back. We need this win badly.

Get the win, get healthy and FFS please win in January.

Agreed.

A team that is prepared to win in the playoffs would go into Seattle and find a way to win this one.

[Best22]

This game is going to tell us what kind of team this is going to be this year. Andy’s teams are always soft and cave under pressure year after year.

You just lost your worst game of the season. If this team is going to have any chance to win in January it needs its confidence back. We need this win badly.

Get the win, get healthy and FFS please win in January.

We win plenty of tough regular season games “under pressure”

2016 Broncos 30-27
2017 Chargers 30-13

Won’t mean anything. We could beat Seattle 45-7 and it still wouldn’t have much bearing on the playoffs. You can lose crucial games late in the year and still go on a Superbowl run. Just look at the 2012 Ravens and 1997 Broncos

[Red Dawg]

Take away a couple bogus penalties in 3 different games and we’re undefeated.

If our stinking dbs could catch we would be undefeated. Each loss they dropped a game winning int.
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[chinaski]

so the Chiefs defense has about a week to figure out how to stop the run. Yeah, that's not happening.

Sob Button is going to fuck this up.

[TribalElder]

Sunday Night Football

Prime time officiaids

[RunKC]

Russell Wilson is 42-12 at home. This will be extremely difficult for us.

[stevieray]

Andy’s teams are always soft and cave under pressure

I've seen that exact look on his face late in big games. I think the pressure paralyzes him in some way.

I felt like I was watching last years team Thursday night.

but you are correct...their response will be telling.

[milkshock]

Sunday Night Football

Prime time officiaids



The ‘all star’ crew will be out there no doubt

[T-post Tom]

Sob Button is going to **** this up.

Seahawks have rushed 422 times this season. They have attempted 346 passes. Logic says they will be even more run heavy in order to keep our offense off the field. Not hard to imagine that our DC won't anticipate this. How far into the game before he makes "adjustments"? :cuss:

[BlackOp]

Sunday Night Football

Prime time officiaids

NE...0 penalties/0 punts

Rams...more penalties than I've ever seen in the beginning of a game in 40+years....while ignoring two on the same play for a TD.

LAC...never had a lead until :04 seconds in the game off fake DPI call.

Chiefs have been royally screwed on National Broadcasts all season...make no mistake, this is for LAC's #1 seed....it's going to happen again. They want the entire world to keep watching the Chiefs lose...in extreme ways.

[New World Order]

so the Chiefs defense has about a week to figure out how to stop the run. Yeah, that's not happening.

We can't even line up properly

[Titty Meat]

We will choke in the playoffs how much more proof do you fools need with Andy?

[Imon Yourside]

We will choke in the playoffs how much more proof do you fools need with Andy?

So everyone should just stop watching despite the fact any real fan knows we've been begging for a franchise qb for dang near 40 years and got that in spades?

[New World Order]

We will choke in the playoffs how much more proof do you fools need with Andy?

It's the defensive collapses that kill us.

If we had a somewhat competent d they'd be undefeated.

[Titty Meat]

So everyone should just stop watching despite the fact any real fan knows we've been begging for a franchise qb for dang near 40 years and got that in spades?

Where in your delusional mind which btw thinks 9-11 and sandy hook were conspiracy theories did I say that?

[Warrior5]

Seahawks have rushed 422 times this season. They have attempted 346 passes. Logic says they will be even more run heavy in order to keep our offense off the field. Not hard to imagine that our DC won't anticipate this. How far into the game before he makes "adjustments"? :cuss:

Yes... I have counted this game as a loss for months now, which is why the giveaway to the Chargers pisses me off so much.

[BryanBusby]

The Seahawks are the worst match up for KC, especially on the road and on primetime. They get all the calls at home, so the Chiefs are pretty fucked because they get hardly any calls.

Early impression would be better hope the Ravens come to play next week.

[NJChiefsFan]

NE...0 penalties/0 punts

Rams...more penalties than I've ever seen in the beginning of a game in 40+years....while ignoring two on the same play for a TD.

LAC...never had a lead until :04 seconds in the game off fake DPI call.

Chiefs have been royally screwed on National Broadcasts all season...make no mistake, this is for LAC's #1 seed....it's going to happen again. They want the entire world to keep watching the Chiefs lose...in extreme ways.

It's incredible how you ignore anything that doesn't fit your narrative. I've never seen a bigger case of confirmation bias in my life.

[crayzkirk]

I say let's do what Chiefs fans do... We pick ourselves up after a loss and cheer the team on. We have been through much worse, the future is bright and the past is the past.

I am so tired of the conspiracy theories. I don't understand why that sort of thought process makes some people happy? The referees are terrible, the game is fast, it's loud and they are just human.

GO CHIEFS!!!

[Stryker]

The Seahawks are the worst match up for KC, especially on the road and on primetime. They get all the calls at home, so the Chiefs are pretty fucked because they get hardly any calls.

Early impression would be better hope the Ravens come to play next week.

We need to win out b/c I believe the Chargers will. Unfortunately, I don't see us winning this one. I want to believe that Mahomes is the 13th man but our D is going to allow Russell Wilson to run like a gazelle.

[FAX]

I haven't run the numbers, but I think our chances are good against the Seahags. Call it intuition. Call it inspiration. Call it insanity. But I think that embarrassing-ass loss against the Bolts was just the wake-up call we needed. That was a "welcome to the post-season" moment.

I also haven't run the numbers on how many posts on the subject of NFL-fixing via crucial calls by the refs are almost identical. My guess is that, if you combined all the salient and non-repetitive language in those posts into one single, solitary post, it would be about 3 sentences long. And about 80% of the server database would be transported to the soul stone realm.

FAX

[stevieray]

..if Matt Cassel can win there.....

[Hammock Parties]

..if Matt Cassel can win there.....

casshole beat a 7-9 team

[stevieray]

casshole beat a 7-9 team

and?

He still won and PM is light years better.

[Hammock Parties]

and?

He still won and PM is light years better.

do you think people here would be near as concerned if the seahawks were trash

[stevieray]

do you think people here would be near as concerned if the seahawks were trash

We were 6-4 and they were 5-5.

[FAX]

I can't get a read on the Seahags. Are they good? They split with the Rambs. Are they just okay? They've been beating up on the 9ers, Panthers, and Vikings (teams that don't convey "offensive juggernaut"). Seattle is an early 1-point favorite apparently.

This is confusing.

FAX

[Deberg_1990]

Chiefs win at Seattle

Then lose at home to the Raiders

Cause Chiefs.....

[TimeForWasp]

We needed a clutch drive to beat Oakland.

We're not the best team in the league.
flip flop much??

[TimeForWasp]

No fear of the Seahawks. When they were in the AFC west they were the cellar dweller. I still think of them that way.

[Best22]

..if Matt Cassel can win there.....

Sh*tbag quarterbacks have won in every venue

Doesn’t mean a thing. Especially since Mora was the coach, not Carroll

Mahomes and the Chiefs have a bigger challenge, but the Chiefs have the ability to win, and it may not be close

[Hammock Parties]

We were 6-4 and they were 5-5.

just a weird comparison that has nothing to do with this year's seahawks team

this pass rush would crush matt hasselbeck

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I can't get a read on the Seahags. Are they good? They split with the Rambs. Are they just okay? They've been beating up on the 9ers, Panthers, and Vikings (teams that don't convey "offensive juggernaut"). Seattle is an early 1-point favorite apparently.

This is confusing.

FAX

They’re far inferior to KC in terms of talent, but they have a couple things going for them. A great HFA on Sunday night, and Bob Sutton.

They will run the ball a ton and if we can’t get them off the field, offensive possessions will be limited.

[Imon Yourside]

Where in your delusional mind which btw thinks 9-11 and sandy hook were conspiracy theories did I say that?

Wrong dipshit and you certainly implied it.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

This also is a game where Berry can potentially make a massive difference in stopping the Seattle run game to an extent. Can’t let them have long drives all night.

[Sassy Squatch]

So we're rooting for a Seattle win and Minnesota loss, correct?

[Chris Meck]

No fear of the Seahawks. When they were in the AFC west they were the cellar dweller. I still think of them that way.

they've been to two super bowls and won one in the last decade. Time to change your perception.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

So we're rooting for a Seattle win and Minnesota loss, correct?

Yeah, I mean a Seattle win pretty well cements themselves as the 5 seed regardless

[Sassy Squatch]

Nah, we need Seattle with absolutely nothing to play for. Don't trust Sutton and his crew if Seattle has the tiniest bit of motivation.

[kcpasco]

Does Baldwin play? He’s gonna rape this defense. He’s gonna gape our buttholes like prison sex.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Nah, we need Seattle with absolutely nothing to play for. Don't trust Sutton and his crew if Seattle has the tiniest bit of motivation.

At the end of the day it’s on KC to go in there and strap up for a do or die type of mindset. This is a week where Mahomes and Berry have to drill that sense of urgency into everyone’s heads every single second.

[Sassy Squatch]

At the end of the day it’s on KC to go in there and strap up for a do or die type of mindset. This is a week where Mahomes and Berry have to drill that sense of urgency into everyone’s heads every single second.
Hah. Been waiting for that for years, and they've always let us down.

[kcpasco]

This secondary vs. Baldwin and Lockett. Prepare thy anus and hope Mahomes can drop at least 40.

[PHOG]

They might use this extra time to review where they are to line up on any given defensive play.

[KChiefs1]

They’re far inferior to KC in terms of talent, but they have a couple things going for them. A great HFA on Sunday night, and Bob Sutton.



They will run the ball a ton and if we can’t get them off the field, offensive possessions will be limited.


Disagree

In the last 12 games the Seahawks are 9-3 the same as the Chiefs. They are playing in one of the best HFA stadiums in the NFL. I see two evenly matched teams with the Seahawks playing at home.

Chiefs will have to play one of their better games to win.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Disagree

In the last 12 games the Seahawks are 9-3 the same as the Chiefs. They are playing in one of the best HFA stadiums in the NFL. I see two evenly matched teams with the Seahawks playing at home.

Chiefs will have to play one of their better games to win.

Well yeah, they’re a good team, but they’re inferior as it relates to talent. By a lot.

[KChiefs1]

Well yeah, they’re a good team, but they’re inferior as it relates to talent. By a lot.



I think you have your Chiefs colored glasses on. The talent difference isn’t that great.

[Sassy Squatch]

Well yeah, they’re a good team, but they’re inferior as it relates to talent. By a lot.
You're either severely overestimating how much talent is on this team, or severely underestimating the Seahawks.

[kcpasco]

Seahawks do an amazing job of replacing defensive talent and keep playing at a high level. If KC doesn’t have a roster full of all pros their D is dead last.

[PHOG]

Seahawks are 8-5

[RunKC]

Nah, we need Seattle with absolutely nothing to play for. Don't trust Sutton and his crew if Seattle has the tiniest bit of motivation.

Losers mentality.

We don’t need Seattle to have nothing to play for. We need our team to play like they have everything to play for.

Chargers beat Seattle, Pittsburgh and us on the road. If the Chiefs can’t win a game they know they have to have, then they don’t deserve the division or the 1 seed over the Chargers.

[Sassy Squatch]

Losers mentality.

We don’t need Seattle to have nothing to play for. We need our team to play like they have everything to play for.

Chargers beat Seattle, Pittsburgh and us on the road. If the Chiefs can’t win a game they know they have to have, then they don’t deserve the division or the 1 seed over the Chargers.
No shit it's a losers mentality. Those fucking assholes had their chance Thursday night, and they royally blew it, like the fucking losers they are.

[mcaj22]

The funny part about the Seahawks is they basically run a 2018 form of Martyball with Brian Schottenheimer. It was an outdated offense when everybody had huge pluggers in the front 7 to stop the run in the early/mid 2000s. Now that this copy cat league all went to pass and front 7s got smaller/faster/stronger, Martyball now has value. And they Seahawks offense is a unique matchup as their style of play in the NFL is the complete outlier. Chiefs are one of the many teams not built in todays game to stop Martyball. Which is odd because if any franchise should know Martyball it should be the Chiefs. And if ANY defensive coordinator should know Martyball it's Sutton BECAUSE HE WENT AGAINST IT EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN HE WAS A JETS COACH under Rex Ryan.

And yet, I'm sure they will still find a way to screw this up.

[mlyonsd]

One positive is this game is being played Sunday night instead of Christmas Eve. Santa shouldn't have to face drunk pissed off chief fans.

[Chris Meck]

The funny part about the Seahawks is they basically run a 2018 form of Martyball with Brian Schottenheimer. It was an outdated offense when everybody had huge pluggers in the front 7 to stop the run in the early/mid 2000s. Now that this copy cat league all went to pass and front 7s got smaller/faster/stronger, Martyball now has value. And they Seahawks offense is a unique matchup as their style of play in the NFL is the complete outlier. Chiefs are one of the many teams not built in todays game to stop Martyball. Which is odd because if any franchise should know Martyball it should be the Chiefs. And if ANY defensive coordinator should know Martyball it's Sutton BECAUSE HE WENT AGAINST IT EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN HE WAS A JETS COACH under Rex Ryan.

And yet, I'm sure they will still find a way to screw this up.

It's an interesting point you make; and I think it's worth applying it in a broader context. The switch from almost universal 4 man defensive fronts to 3-4 was to take advantage of undervalued physical types/skills. Now that half the teams run a 3-4 that's not really an advantage anymore. It's kind of like when the Royals decided to value contact, speed, and defense. Everybody was valuing the high strike-out home run hitters and we went to two WS in a row with the opposite skill sets.

The NFL is a copycat league; but in order to get ahead of the curve you have to find the things that nobody else is doing and DO THAT. We're a good example on offense, Reid is constantly pushing the envelope. We need to find a defensive mind that can mirror that. Or shit, I'd settle for being able to teach and coach simple schematic responsibilities.

[mnchiefsguy]

How many times have they scored 40 this season??


Looks like once against the 9ers.

Faiders had not scored more than 23 points in a game when they played us.

They scored 33 on our shit defense.

[mcaj22]

It's an interesting point you make; and I think it's worth applying it in a broader context. The switch from almost universal 4 man defensive fronts to 3-4 was to take advantage of undervalued physical types/skills. Now that half the teams run a 3-4 that's not really an advantage anymore. It's kind of like when the Royals decided to value contact, speed, and defense. Everybody was valuing the high strike-out home run hitters and we went to two WS in a row with the opposite skill sets.

The NFL is a copycat league; but in order to get ahead of the curve you have to find the things that nobody else is doing and DO THAT. We're a good example on offense, Reid is constantly pushing the envelope. We need to find a defensive mind that can mirror that. Or shit, I'd settle for being able to teach and coach simple schematic responsibilities.

I think it's going to take a team with a huge set of stones to target player types on defense that are currently undervalued or considered an archaic skill set. Or maybe find a value or statistic that completely goes against the grain of the current trends and scheme your defense around that. A defensive look that nobody else is doing today.

It's similar to the NBA. Big huge centers that are block chasers and rebounders almost have no value because it's all about getting back on defense and going out and defending at the perimeter. Huge stiffs are useless. Same thing with todays NFL. Williams Wall like the Vikings had in the mid 2000s isnt a thing anymore. Big huge MLBer pluggers are a completely useless body type to have. You basically have to be a safety and convert to LBer when you make the jump to the NFL to have a ton of value. Or be a completely freak of nature at LBer. (run like a HB/WR) Which is like 1% of the college prospects out there lol.

[big nasty kcnut]

This like a bye week for andy we will win this week book it.

[T-post Tom]

Watching Hags v 49ers now. Hags down 7-6. I know they like to run, but their WRs vs. Chiefs secondary scare me. Praying and hoping the 2016 Berry shows up next Sunday. Only way the Chiefs overcome the Hags and Bob Sutton. That or the offense will need to score on nearly every possession.

[Best22]

Losers mentality.

We don’t need Seattle to have nothing to play for. We need our team to play like they have everything to play for.

Chargers beat Seattle, Pittsburgh and us on the road. If the Chiefs can’t win a game they know they have to have, then they don’t deserve the division or the 1 seed over the Chargers.

:clap:

[T-post Tom]

...

Chargers beat Seattle, Pittsburgh and us on the road. If the Chiefs can’t win a game they know they have to have, then they don’t deserve the division or the 1 seed over the Chargers.

I can agree with that overall. Sadly, it already happened on Thursday.

[MahiMike]

35-21 Chiefs

[Chiefs Pantalones]

If NE loses to PITT and LA loses to BALT, a Chiefs win in Seattle would win the division and homefield advantage throughout.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Wait, why are we worried about a team that's getting lit up by Nick Mullens?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

If NE loses to PITT and LA loses to BALT, a Chiefs win in Seattle would win the division and homefield advantage throughout.



Derp.

Welcome to football.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I can't get a read on the Seahags. Are they good? They split with the Rambs.


They lost to the Rams twice.

[NJChiefsFan]

If NE loses to PITT and LA loses to BALT, a Chiefs win in Seattle would win the division and homefield advantage throughout.

Derp.

Welcome to football.

HOU has the strength of victory over us near as I can figure. Didn't do the math yet. I'm sure it's already done on some website as well. A loss to Oakland could give HOU the 1 seed.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Derp.

Welcome to football.

K.

[KC_Connection]

Wait, why are we worried about a team that's getting lit up by Nick Mullens?
Some have been calling this game Baltimore all over again, but Baltimore actually had a defence. Seattle won’t keep up with Mahomes.

[T-post Tom]

Wait, why are we worried about a team that's getting lit up by Nick Mullens?

I think the general worry is that we have a defense that has no problem giving up 15 points in 4 mins on their home field. We've got players that were juked by A. Gates, and we have a DC that can't make game time adjustments. Combine all that with a Seahawks' offense that is a rush first/ball control offense that also has good WRs and a good QB and well.... I'm sure there's more, but that's what comes to mind. I'm hoping Hill is completely healthy, Mahomes has a career day and 2016 EB plays the whole game. :)

[T-post Tom]

Some have been calling this game Baltimore all over again, but Baltimore actually had a defence. Seattle won’t keep up with Mahomes.

I really hope you're right. I haven't been this nervous over a game since the game vs. the Titans last Jan. This feels like a playoff game to me. Loss of a bye week and home field advantage would not be good.

[kysirsoze]

I really hope you're right. I haven't been this nervous over a game since the game vs. the Titans last Jan. This feels like a playoff game to me. Loss of a bye week and home field advantage would not be good.

Didn't help Thursday. Main thing I care about is a bye.

[Hammock Parties]

way to burn that on a regular season game buttfuck