Jags release S Barry Church

[Sure-Oz]

@FieldYates: The Jaguars have released veteran S Barry Church. The former big free agent signing was a healthy scratch last week.

@AlbertBreer: Really interesting. He'll go to waivers, where another team can have him for the rest of the year for $529K. And they'd have the option to keep him at $6.25M in 2019 and $6.75M in 2020. https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/status/1073672876631429120

Can he help?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> are cutting Safety Barry Church, per <a href="https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@phillip_heilman</a> <br><br>The Jaguars gave Church a four-year, $26 million contract in 2017, including $12 million in guarantees.</p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1073674367266099200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[kcpasco]

Is he better than Parker?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Really interesting. He&#39;ll go to waivers, where another team can have him for the rest of the year for $529K. And they&#39;d have the option to keep him at $6.25M in 2019 and $6.75M in 2020. <a href="https://t.co/Y3PZjrseM6">https://t.co/Y3PZjrseM6</a></p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1073676216320880640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Someone is gonna claim him before us

[The Franchise]

Bring anybody the fuck in right now. ANYBODY.

[DJJasonp]

Is he better than Parker?

A parking cone is better than Parker

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Bring him in for a look? ��

[Munson]

Is he better than Parker?

He couldn't possibly be any worse.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Someone will claim him before he gets to the Chiefs

[In58men]

If he can’t walk give the fucking guy some crutches!!!!!

He’d still be better than what we have

[TomBarndtsTwin]

$529K?

Why the hell not for that amount of money?


Probably won’t work, but can’t hurt to put in a claim.

[CupidStunt]

I'm pretty sure we'll put in a claim, but there's a bunch of teams ahead of us who might also. Probably should. Probably will.

[Mecca]

He'd be an improvement over Parker and Sorensen it's time to move on from those guys.

[tyton75]

Chiefs cut Kareem Hunt too. Why is he getting cut would be nice to know.

but it would be a gift if he's healthy and not a complete d-bag and fell to us on waivers.

[Easy 6]

DO IT VEACH

[Iconic]

Holy shit yes if possible but the odds of no one else claiming him first is way too slim

[JakeF]

The Chiefs need to put a claim in for him. We need more healthy bodies.

I bet another team puts a claim to block us ... chargers,steelers.

[frozenchief]

Could he cover Mike Williams in the end zone when no one else is within 10 yards of Williams? Would he need Eric Berry to yell at him before he got into the correct position?

[Red Dawg]

We wont even call him. Bill B will though.
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[Iconic]

Chiefs cut Kareem Hunt too. Why is he getting cut would be nice to know.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">0 dead cap next year anyway. Inevitable move by JAX, a team that has to make some pieces move to 1) get under the cap, 2) shred the Bortles contract and 3) have enough space to get into the vet QB market. <a href="https://t.co/TbV2lKgoYz">https://t.co/TbV2lKgoYz</a></p>&mdash; Justis Mosqueda (@JuMosq) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuMosq/status/1073676999695073283?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Sounds like a cap move and with the guys behind him developing well they wanted to give them more PT

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I could see Belichik claiming him just to block him from the Chiefs.

[kcpasco]

Could he cover Mike Williams in the end zone when no one else is within 10 yards of Williams? Would he need Eric Berry to yell at him before he got into the correct position?

How does a defensive coordinator survive that? Especially a guy that has 2 of the worst playoff defensive choke jobs in NFL history.

[In58men]

Cowboys haven’t reached out to S Barry Church but I’m told they are discussing the possibility of bringing him back to Dallas according to a source informed. Church, 30, was released by the Jags today and is familiar with the system having played there from 2010-2016.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Just play Berry Lucas and bring back Watts and roll with that

[kcpasco]

Just play Berry Lucas and bring back Watts and roll with that

Bob has to play Parker because he’s a nice guy.

[siberian khatru]

Bob has to play Parker because he’s a nice guy.

"He knows the system."

[JakeF]

Sutton would rather have a shitty player who knows the system than have to expend energy teaching a better player the scheme.

[MMXcalibur]

"He knows the system."

"He has photos of me wearing a baby bonnet and jerking off into the Gatorade bucket"

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I don’t think we’ll get him, but he oughta be claimed.

It’s a fucking joke that Lucas doesn’t start. He’s the only safety besides Berry that actually looks aware of what is going on during the game.

[Chris Meck]

I'm sure they'll try but someone before us will take him.

[Hoover]

Every player who is not on the current Chiefs roster is better than anything we have.

- Chiefsplanet

[HemiEd]

Again? He was cut twice?

[TEX]

Every player who is not on the current Chiefs roster is better than anything we have.

- Chiefsplanet

Well, if that player is a DB, there's a good chance its true. :shrug:

[TEX]

Just play Berry Lucas and bring back Watts and roll with that

Yep.

[Hoover]

I wonder if anyone has started a Mahomes thread yet...

[scho63]

A parking cone is better than Parker

This afternoon I have read some of the funniest posts across multpiple threads. This one made me piss myself! ROFL

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Is he better than Parker?

Better than Parker:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Scarecrow_in_field.jpg

https://i.cbc.ca/1.4835983.1537801650!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/jayda-duval.jpeg

https://www.insidescience.org/sites/default/files/sites/default/files/images/articles/top-images/2018/Pee-Wee-Football.jpg

[Jerm]

Better than Parker:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Scarecrow_in_field.jpg

https://i.cbc.ca/1.4835983.1537801650!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/jayda-duval.jpeg

https://www.insidescience.org/sites/default/files/sites/default/files/images/articles/top-images/2018/Pee-Wee-Football.jpg

Better than Parker:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/17/article-0-11C9CFB8000005DC-110_468x524.jpg

[Dartgod]

We don't have a prayer of getting him.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Lol at people who want to take garbage from garbage teams to make their team better

[KCUnited]

If he can molest opposing offenses, I'm all for it.

[JakeF]

Lol at people who want to take garbage from garbage teams to make their team betterIt's called desperation.

Would you rather not try anything, just say fuck it?

[bobhill]

I'll take a jag Berry that plays over Jag Berry that doesn't

[Marcellus]

Better than Parker:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/17/article-0-11C9CFB8000005DC-110_468x524.jpg

Hey its Bob!He finally washed ashore.

[suzzer99]

When is waivers done?

[rabblerouser]

Is he better than Parker?

Every other NFL safety is better than Parker.

[MIAdragon]

Lol at people who want to take garbage from garbage teams to make their team better

Who cut Parker before we signed him again....

[Chargem]

Who cut Parker before we signed him again....

Falcons

[T-post Tom]

Cowboys sniffing. Go Colts! Crush their hopes.

[Setsuna]

He's the first of our FAs on defense we need to kick to the curb. Campbell, Jackson, and Bouye need to go as well.

[CaliforniaChief]

Since it's highly unlikely that Church will fall to us, someone in the hard-hitting KC sports media needs to ask Andy why Jordan Lucas isn't starting or at least playing more with Berry.

[Bump]

ya, better ****ing claim him (at least try). What happened to him? He was pretty decent last year, Jags just cutting losses after a dismal season? Unless he beat a woman or anything like that, bring his ass in right ****ing now.

[TimeForWasp]

I would like to walk up and slap the fucking smile off his face. I'll bet he wouldn't do a fucking thing about it.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/17/article-0-11C9CFB8000005DC-110_468x524.jpg

[T-post Tom]

I would like to walk up and slap the ****ing smile off his face. I'll bet he wouldn't do a ****ing thing about it.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/17/article-0-11C9CFB8000005DC-110_468x524.jpg
ROFL

[T-post Tom]

ya, better ****ing claim him (at least try). What happened to him? He was pretty decent last year, Jags just cutting losses after a dismal season? Unless he beat a woman or anything like that, bring his ass in right ****ing now.

Jags have cap problems.

[Cosmos]

Since it's highly unlikely that Church will fall to us, someone in the hard-hitting KC sports media needs to ask Andy why Jordan Lucas isn't starting or at least playing more with Berry.

Not local... serious that this question has never been asked ???

[Mosbonian]

He's the first of our FAs on defense we need to kick to the curb. Campbell, Jackson, and Bouye need to go as well.

The Jags aren't letting go of Calais Campbell....I could see them getting rid of Fournette thru a trade before letting go of Campbell.

[mnchiefsguy]

Wouldn't matter if we did get him. Sutton is too much of a dumb ass to play him.

[BossChief]

Better than Parker:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/17/article-0-11C9CFB8000005DC-110_468x524.jpg

It’s just a flesh wound

[threebag]

I would like to walk up and slap the ****ing smile off his face. I'll bet he wouldn't do a ****ing thing about it.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/17/article-0-11C9CFB8000005DC-110_468x524.jpg

Already looks like he’d be happy to see ya

[Flying High D]

Already looks like he’d be happy to see ya

That what he uses to shake your hand with.

Any word on where Church’s spirit is at?

[King_Chief_Fan]

It's called desperation.

Would you rather not try anything, just say **** it?

It would seem the organization has

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jacksonville safety Barry Church went unclaimed by all 32 teams, he&#39;s a free agent.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1074799183163465728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[In58men]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jacksonville safety Barry Church went unclaimed by all 32 teams, he&#39;s a free agent.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1074799183163465728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bring him as a WR?

[R Clark]

Sign this MFer up now

[DJ's left nut]

Well look at it this way - we'd have just released Jordan Lucas to make room for him and Parker would still play every snap. Somehow.

I'm just completely at a loss on the Parker thing. Totally dumbfounded.

[carcosa]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jacksonville safety Barry Church went unclaimed by all 32 teams, he&#39;s a free agent.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1074799183163465728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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SING HIM CRAL!!!!

[Sure-Oz]

Bring him as a WR?@MySportsUpdate: Former #Jaguars safety Barry Church passed through waivers unclaimed. He’s now a free agent. Dallas reportedly interested in a reunion.

[OKchiefs]

Well look at it this way - we'd have just released Jordan Lucas to make room for him and Parker would still play every snap. Somehow.

I'm just completely at a loss on the Parker thing. Totally dumbfounded.

One of the most discouraging parts of this season is starting out hopeful that we had found better depth and talent, only to be forced to bring back Parker, Allen, Zombo, West, etc.

[R Clark]

Cut Parker and sign him, how could it get any worse?

[kcxiv]

cant be worse then the nothingness we have now lol

[TEX]

One of the most discouraging parts of this season is starting out hopeful that we had found better depth and talent, only to be forced to bring back Parker, Allen, Zombo, West, etc.

Man, a buddy of mine said the same thing Saturday. It's so true. :shake:

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

One of the most discouraging parts of this season is starting out hopeful that we had found better depth and talent, only to be forced to bring back Parker, Allen, Zombo, West, etc.

Well thank Dorsey for the cap hell the chiefs where in this year

[ModSocks]

Well look at it this way - we'd have just released Jordan Lucas to make room for him and Parker would still play every snap. Somehow.

I'm just completely at a loss on the Parker thing. Totally dumbfounded.

Couldn't believe how badly he got beat in man coverage against Antonio Gates. Old ass, overweight, broke dick Antonio Gates looked like Tyreek Hill against Ron Parker.

Dude is dooooone.

[chinaski]

Replacement for Sutton?

[mcaj22]

Well thank Dorsey for the cap hell the chiefs where in this year

yea that same "cap hell" that signed a 16 million dollar WR2 and a 9 million dollar ILBer that cant cover anyone or make a stop behind the LOS.

They could have got 4 starters with that kind of money spent on those two.

[Marcellus]

yea that same "cap hell" that signed a 16 million dollar WR2 and a 9 million dollar ILBer that cant cover anyone or make a stop behind the LOS.

They could have got 4 starters with that kind of money spent on those two.

The idea we are or were in cap hell is silly anyway.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

yea that same "cap hell" that signed a 16 million dollar WR2 and a 9 million dollar ILBer that cant cover anyone or make a stop behind the LOS.

They could have got 4 starters with that kind of money spent on those two.

Buddy you might wanna look at year 1 of those deals all low

[mcaj22]

The idea we are or were in cap hell is silly anyway.

Absolutely absurd.

Face the facts they went cheap at Safety and trotted out a bunch of turds.

[mcaj22]

Buddy you might wanna look at year 1 of those deals all low

Yea so they could have backloaded whatever they wanted to whomever they wanted and those chose those guys and said lets trot out Ron Parker and Orlando Scandrick instead.

[farmerchief]

Hes probably better than any starting safety we currently are trotting out there!

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Yea so they could have backloaded whatever they wanted to whomever they wanted and those chose those guys and said lets trot out Ron Parker and Orlando Scandrick instead.

The only reason Parker is here is because Berry had a set back in training camp. Not finding to many starting Safeties that late in season. Daniel got hurt too

[Hoover]

Absolutely absurd.

Face the facts they went cheap at Safety and trotted out a bunch of turds.

We spent like 20m on Berry and Sorenson this year. We don’t have shit but we spent plenty.

[Marcellus]

Absolutely absurd.

Face the facts they went cheap at Safety and trotted out a bunch of turds.

To be fair I dont think they expected the Berry debacle.Had he been healthy its a whole different story and frankly paying Berry $13MM per the other guys will have to be cheaper. Thats one reason they cut Parker originally.

[Marcellus]

We spent like 20m on Berry and Sorenson this year. We don’t have shit but we spent plenty.

Jesus I just saw Sorenson is a $5.3MM cap hit.

[UChieffyBugger]

Honestly, there's no way in hell he's worse than Parker and Sorensen, It CANNOT be possible. So I hope Veach takes a very close look at this because a Berry/Church tandem just might give this defense some juice in the playoffs. Church was part of that great Jaggs defense last year. Even if his performance has slipped a little, I can't see how he wouldn't be better than the two I mentioned above.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Veach should literally be spamming his phone right now

Church has gotta be, what, 5x better than Parker? 10x?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Face facts Lucas is better then Parker and he can’t see the field. No way they’re gonna bring Barry in

[Chief Northman]

Face facts Lucas is better then Parker and he can’t see the field. No way they’re gonna bring Barry in

Then these pricks deserve to lose. The blind loyalty this organization shows coaches and players is why they are always on the outside looking in.

Parker was claimed off the scrap heap and Sorenson should have been cut last June. They haven’t developed Murray into anything.
A proven commodity with some savvy and grit becomes available this late and they sit on their hands.

Fuck this shit. If we don’t hear of the Chiefs having pursued Church at all, then they deserve every bit of defensive futility coming their way.

[Iconic]

At the very least he's a better run defender than Parker, that's literally his specialty. Dunno why we don't bring him in

[Mecca]

At the very least he's a better run defender than Parker, that's literally his specialty. Dunno why we don't bring him in

Cause Ron Parker is Suttons boyfriend.

[OKchiefs]

The only reason Parker is here is because Berry had a set back in training camp. Not finding to many starting Safeties that late in season. Daniel got hurt too

We still had shit at the #2 safety spot. Guys like Vaccaro, Boston, Reid, etc. signed for pennies. Veach was just too dumb to see the need.

[CupidStunt]

WTF. Adding a player like this should be mandatory. We are so fucking bad at safety.

[Sassy Squatch]

We still had shit at the #2 safety spot. Guys like Vaccaro, Boston, Reid, etc. signed for pennies. Veach was just too dumb to see the need.
Yes. He went out and tried to get Earl Thomas just because why not.

[Chief Northman]

Any word about Church visiting anywhere? Read that the Cowboys are not pursuing him after some speculation they were looking into him.
I doubt any team wants him longer than the current season....

[carcosa]

Have we signed this piece of shit yet???!

[Imon Yourside]

Cause Ron Parker is Suttons boyfriend.

Maybe...just...maybe

[Chargem]

PFF ranked Church as 79th out of 83 eligible safeties...

[DTVietnam]

PFF ranked Church as 79th out of 83 eligible safeties...

PFF is a fake stat clickbait site..

no one takes them seriously

[TwistedChief]

PFF ranked Church as 79th out of 83 eligible safeties...

But can I guess?
82. Ron Parker
83. Eric Murray

Sorensen would be 84 but too few snaps.

[Chargem]

PFF is a fake stat clickbait site..

no one takes them seriously

I agree they are flawed, but way less bad than the sports media talking heads. Short of going and watching a load of Jags games off gamepass, I don't think there's a better way to get a quick indicator on how good a guy is. I've never thought a guy was amazing for PFF to think he was terrible or vice versa, although for two good players I might not agree which one PFF thinks is best.

But can I guess?
82. Ron Parker
83. Eric Murray

Sorensen would be 84 but too few snaps.

Actually PFF thinks both Parker and Murray are better than Church, and actually Murray is better than Parker (which I agree with, god Parker is terrible)

[loce1959]

I think it would be worth a shot to pick him up. Many times guys that have been let go are motivated to use what games they have as an audition for future employment.

[BoneKrusher]

Hell, Pee Wee Herman would be better than what we have....Do It!!

[Dayze]

Can you tackle?

Church: Yeah.

You're hired.