Berry missed today's practice, back to Day-To-Day. Also Dorian O'Daniel Note

[JakeF]

Eric Berry misses Wednesday practice, in question for Saturday’s divisional

Guess who’s day to day again.
By Pete Sweeney Jan 9, 2019, 2:10pm CST
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/1/9/18175715/eric-berry-misses-wednesday-practice-in-question-for-saturdays-divisional-game

Kansas City Chiefs safety Eric Berry is not practicing Wednesday, the second day of work as the team prepares to take on the Indianapolis Colts on Saturday afternoon in the AFC’s divisional round.

Berry missed practice on Friday, December 28, before he was eventually held out of the Chiefs’ final game of the season against the Oakland Raiders. Berry practiced limitedly to start this week on Tuesday, which many felt was a good sign, but he could not participate on Wednesday as he deals with his lingering heel injury.

“It’s difficult from the standpoint of he’s a real critical part of our team,” defensive coordinator Bob Sutton said when asked about the uncertainty surrounding the three-time All-Pro. “He’s an outstanding player. He’s one of our true leaders, the guys rally around him, so I think that part is always hard. You get caught up in different things in the season. But also, if you stick back for a second, you say, ‘Man, this is really hard on this guy, too, as a player. This is something he loves to do. He’s been really good at it, and as difficult as it is on us as a defensive unit or us as a team, I think for him, it’s really challenging.’

“So it’s just what it is. There’s not a lot you can do about it, and every week we’ve got our fingers crossed and hope that he can make it back and go. It’s truly—I know you guys get tired of hearing this—it really is a day to day to day thing here right now, the way it’s playing out. You just got to stay in there and go and figure out how to get other guys ready in case he can’t go.”

Berry was originally held out of the Chiefs’ first 13 games with what the team described as a sore heel, though reports, which have never been confirmed (nor denied) said Berry has what is called a “Haglund’s deformity.”

Berry eventually returned to the lineup to play 30 snaps Week 15 against the Los Angeles Chargers and played 69 snaps Week 16 against the Seattle Seahawks before what has appeared to be some sort of setback.

Sutton was asked Wednesday about who would replace Berry and linebacker Dorian O’Daniel, who hasn’t practiced at all this week, if they couldn’t play against the Colts.

Without Berry in a must-win game against the Raiders when it came to playoff home-field advantage, the safety snap count breakdown was as follows: Daniel Sorensen (63), Eric Murray (33), Jordan Lucas (32) and Ron Parker (6).

In the above breakdown, it is important to note that Sorensen and Lucas earned the start. Lucas suffered a stinger, and the Chiefs eventually removed starters in a 35-3 blowout.

It remains to be seen who the Chiefs start against the Colts if Berry cannot play once again.

A note on Dorian O’Daniel

#Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub on LB Dorian O’Daniel, who has missed two practices this week: “He’s a four-phase starter for us. He’s an important guy, so we’re keeping an eye on that one, pretty close.”

“I wouldn’t tell you,” he initially said with a smile. “We have to work guys in, obviously, and just see where guys are. The one good thing is you’re at the point of the season where if you do have to miss some reps and you get better toward to the end of the week, this is probably the time to do it. We just have to kind of roll guys through, which we try to do, anyway, but when you have a guy in question, you have to say, ‘OK,’ because that usually affects somebody else.

“Sometimes that affects special teams ... It’s going to affect Dave (Toub) and what he’s putting together, so you got to kind of stay on top of that as a total staff, too. But we just got to slide and we’ve got some different options, but we kind of have to wait and see where it’s at.”

[Prison Bitch]

Can anyone embed Beck’s video “Loser”?

[KCrockaholic]

I'm kinda just done with EB as a player. Done fooling around with him.

[JakeF]

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[ModSocks]

That doesn't sound too promising.

[Prison Bitch]

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Thank you.

[In58men]

Didn’t we already know this?

This was mentioned in 2 different threads and now we have this thread?

[ModSocks]

Didn’t we already know this?

This was mentioned in 2 different threads and now we have this thread?

It's a new article with quotes from Sutton and Toub. Not just some tweet from a beat writer.

Thread approved.

[TinyEvel]

“So it’s just what it is. There’s not a lot you can do about it, and every week we’ve got our fingers crossed and hope that he can make it back and go. It’s truly—I know you guys get tired of hearing this—it really is a day to day to day thing here right now, the way it’s playing out. You just got to stay in there and go and figure out how to get other guys ready in case he can’t go.”




Really bad news, guys. They've added another day to his condition.

He was day to day

now he is day to day to day.

dayum.

[O.city]

But I was told they were just resting him?

[Sassy Squatch]

Really bad news, guys. They've added another day to his condition.

He was day to day

now he is day to day to day.

dayum.
NOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOO

[staylor26]

Kinda dishonest to say he’s “back to day to day”

Sutton used those words and it clearly wasn’t an official injury report by any means

[O.city]

Dj had it right in another thread.

He'll have surgery 3 days after they lose or after the SB, which will assure him being on the roster and guarantee his money next year.

He'll miss TC and be in a situation similar to Houston a few years back and maybe play 6 games next year.

[suzzer99]

"day to day" means unless there's a miracle he won't play.

[dlphg9]

But I was told they were just resting him?

Where does it sayxhe reinjured it or its hurting?

[suzzer99]

Really makes you think twice about signing Chris Jones or Dee Ford to a big contract.

[O.city]

Where does it sayxhe reinjured it or its hurting?

Well, when it says he couldn't participate today because of it, that's pretty self explanatory.

[King_Chief_Fan]

This Berry crap is a major joke.
He isn't needed. He hasn't done anything for this team
In 2 years.
Not interested in "but he is injured" dialogue.
When isn't he injured?

Shame on fat Andy for misleading the fans and mishandling the situation

[ptlyon]

DaFace - YOU BASTARD! :)

[threebag]

WWGD?

[DaFace]

I'm kinda just done with EB as a player. Done fooling around with him.

Same. I wish he could be out there, but I wonder if we would have been better off just leaving him on IR from the beginning. He's a constant distraction (at least for fans - he may be fine for the team as a "coach".)

[saphojunkie]

WTF is that DoD quote

[The Franchise]

Same. I wish he could be out there, but I wonder if we would have been better off just leaving him on IR from the beginning. He's a constant distraction (at least for fans - he may be fine for the team as a "coach".)

He wasn't ever on IR.

[DaFace]

He wasn't ever on IR.

I know. I think he should have been, and never come off of it.

[The Franchise]

I know. I think he should have been, and never come off of it.

I think the plan might have been to put him on IR but then they lost Sorensen and didn't want to have to waste both return spots on two safeties.

[KCJake]

Sh!t. All year long I was one of the few that wasn't flipping out about this guy missing time. "Save him for the playoffs" sounded good to me. Well here we are. If this guy doesn't take a shot and play well Sunday, *uck him!

[threebag]

Haglunds 16.6

Berry 1.4

Spirit 0.0








WWGD?

[007]

As I've said before. They got here without him. They can finish without him.

[htismaqe]

As I've said before. They got here without him. They can finish without him.

Yep. Eric who?

[In58men]

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[ILChief]

I hope Veach approaches this off-season assuming Berry will never play again and drafts and signs free agents accordingly. If he gives you anything great but you can't rely on him

[TribalElder]

Bummer

this day to day stuff is a distraction

[jimidollar]

Oh well. Team is 0-2 with him on the field this year. No great loss.

[notorious]

I don’t give a shit anymore.

[Graystoke]

Not surprised.
So much bullshit, the way we have been lead to the belief he was going to be our Playoff Defense Saviour.

Done caring

[CoMoChief]

I don't expect Berry to be a factor at all in the playoffs, however far the Chiefs advance.

I also think this will be Berry's last season as a Chief.

There is absolutely zero reason to keep him post June1. The Chiefs are much better off just eating his cap hit.

[NJChiefsFan]

Having him on the field to help on Ebron at all would really help. Just being a coach on the field, being decent in coverage against TE's, and with the run once in a while would be a major improvement. Don't even need the old Berry. Not holding my breath though.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

I guess the ‘spirit’ is not feeling it this week . . . .



(somewhere Ronnie Lott is just shaking his head)

[Rain Man]

Hypothetical question here, but can you amputate a heel?

[threebag]

http://thefw.com/files/2013/05/Icestorm.gif


Can he play in a pair of Heelys?

[PHOG]

Dj had it right in another thread.

He'll have surgery 3 days after they lose or after the SB, which will assure him being on the roster and guarantee his money next year.

He'll miss TC and be in a situation similar to Houston a few years back and maybe play 6 games next year.
6 games...6 games...you kidding me?....6 games...are you nuts?...6 games??

[Flying High D]

Might be alittle to chilly to crawl out of the underpass this weekend.

[Flying High D]

6 games...6 games...you kidding me?....6 games...are you nuts?...6 games??

Will we be able to make the playoffs at 10-6? Every game he plays they lose. The less games he plays in the better the record.

[POND_OF_RED]

Really bad news, guys. They've added another day to his condition.

He was day to day

now he is day to day to day.

dayum.

He means we really only need him for 3 days technically. Interesting Freudian slip.

Let’s hope it’s smoke and mirrors. He looked pretty disruptive in the first half of that Chargers game. If we could get that production out of him for the playoff push I would be happy. Still holding on to my delusions that he’ll somehow return to his all-pro self again when that playoff atmosphere hits his spirit.

[BlackOp]

Dj had it right in another thread.

He'll have surgery 3 days after they lose or after the SB, which will assure him being on the roster and guarantee his money next year.

He'll miss TC and be in a situation similar to Houston a few years back and maybe play 6 games next year.

I'm not sure that having surgery for a non-football related, chronic heel condition would guarantee his 2019 money...

I would have to think there is some form of stipulation...I dont think he can just do it without informing them. Chiefs could designate him for release the day before before he has the procedure.

For the 2018 season...Berry made $130,000 per play. Pretty good gig...$1,625,000 per tackle. Players get $27,000 for a divisional game...he's was like "**** that chump change".

[Chief Pagan]

Really makes you think twice about signing Chris Jones or Dee Ford to a big contract.

I would think twice about signing Hill to a mega contract. Instead of having a single elite WR, I think I would rather have 2 top WRs and figure at least one will be healthy.

[jaa1025]

Really makes you think twice about signing Chris Jones or Dee Ford to a big contract.

Chris Jones, yes. I'd sign him to a big contract. He doesn't have an injury history and it would be his second contract. He had the best season for interior lineman outside of Donald. He's going to get paid.

Ford, no way I sign him to a big contract but I'd tag him in a heartbeat. He's already said he'd sign the tag. With his injury history I wouldn't touch him. (I didn't want to sign Houston or Berry for the exact same reason)

[dlphg9]

Jones, Hill, Kelce, and Mahomes of course are the players I would pay hugggggeeeeee contracts too. I'd make Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce the highest paid players at their positions. Mahomes would get the biggest contract ever.

[BlackOp]

I would think twice about signing Hill to a mega contract. Instead of having a single elite WR, I think I would rather have 2 top WRs and figure at least one will be healthy.

I wouldn't...he's shown he can stay healthy. He has generational speed and improved every season.

There is no other player in the NFL quite like him...

THIS is the type of player you pay...thinking twice about paying an injury-prone Watkins $16 million would have been a good idea though.

[Baby Lee]

Really makes you think twice about signing Chris Jones or Dee Ford to a big contract.

We should just go all-in on our strategy and predicate all contract negotiations on a free sideline opportunity to watch Mahomes play.

[Bump]

Jones, Hill, Kelce, and Mahomes of course are the players I would pay hugggggeeeeee contracts too. I'd make Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce the highest paid players at their positions. Mahomes would get the biggest contract ever.

my thoughts exactly. I don't have any issue paying those guys big. Mahomes can get a $200 mill contract for all I care, as long as he stays here forever.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

shit. All year long I was one of the few that wasn't flipping out about this guy missing time. "Save him for the playoffs" sounded good to me. Well here we are. If this guy doesn't take a shot and play well Sunday, *uck him!

Yeah, and everyone who vehemently defended this dumbassed fiasco, at every point of the promise of return, as the bar kept getting pushed further and further away, now just say, "oh well".

Fuck those twats. LMAO

[SuperBowl4]

The :arrow: should release EB before Saturdays game. Move on. GO :arrow:!

[BlackOp]

Yeah, and everyone who vehemently defended this dumbassed fiasco, at every point of the promise of return, as the bar kept getting pushed further and further away, now just say, "oh well".

**** those twats. LMAO

TY Hilton has been too injured to practice for like 5 straight weeks...but still has played in every game.

Must be nice to have a player willing to risk playing through pain...sad part is Berry isn't really "injured"...its just his heels hurts.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

TY Hilton has been too injured to practice for like 5 straight weeks...but still has played in every game.

Must be nice to have a player willing to risk playing through pain...sad part is Berry isn't really "injured"...its just his heels hurts.

But what can you do? We can only accept what the Chiefs give us to work with, right?
:rolleyes:

[Chiefs Moon]

Surgery for Berry's condition was the only option from the beginning.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Aside from looking rather promising in his limited playing time this year, dude is living on a 3 year old reputation. We got here without him. It would be nice if he played, but we'd be hoping that 2 years out of football and two years older that he'd still be the same effective guy he was from before.

Bye Eric. Seriously, love what you did 3 years ago.

[Gravedigger]

After we win the Super Bowl I expect the Clarks to transport him to the surgery room and get that shit fixed.

[threebag]

At this point rather just have Lin Elliot bounce him off the upright. Thanks for the EB29 three years ago.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Seriously, if you are him, you HAVE to know how bad this has looked really all season. Then he makes the "spirit" comment...they won't say anything other than it's a "sore heel" and it's "Day to day to day"...They need to fix their messaging, because a sore heel is something that people live with and work through every day. Jeez...call it what it is, a chronic issue that does not allow him to perform. Injury settlement, make him a coach, call it a day.

[Flying High D]

He has taken a magical season and tried his best to piss all over it.

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

After we win the Super Bowl I expect the Clarks to transport him to the surgery room and get that shit fixed.

Make his Superbowl ring a toe ring so he can be reminded of the misery his foot caused everybody this season!:shake:

[RealSNR]

Play Berry until he snaps.

Then throw him in the dumpster.

I don't fucking care anymore. I'm done. He's not a part of the team. He hasn't been for two seasons. He's not coming back or playing like the guy we paid.

So just use what's left of him and be done.

[warrior]

Play Berry until he snaps.

Then throw him in the dumpster.

I don't ****ing care anymore. I'm done. He's not a part of the team. He hasn't been for two seasons. He's not coming back or playing like the guy we paid.

So just use what's left of him and be done.



That about where I'm at to-Love the guy's play on the field but we need player's to play.

[penguinz]

Play Berry until he snaps.
This is what they should have done from the very beginning. Deal with the pain until it snaps.

They need to make him watch Roadhouse. Dalton: Pain don't hurt.

[ptlyon]

HOW'S HIS FEELS TO DAY

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Play Berry until he snaps.

Then throw him in the dumpster.

I don't fucking care anymore. I'm done. He's not a part of the team. He hasn't been for two seasons. He's not coming back or playing like the guy we paid.

So just use what's left of him and be done.

God I love this. I love this so much that I could literally sit here for hours and envision scenarios in which the Chiefs cram his ass in to a uniform, carry him kicking and screaming to the defensive backfield, and cart him back out there again and again when the "spirit" tries to tell the coaching staff otherwise.

I never envisioned this guy being such a huge disappointment. It's almost surreal.

[suzzer99]

I would think twice about signing Hill to a mega contract. Instead of having a single elite WR, I think I would rather have 2 top WRs and figure at least one will be healthy.

Hill has gutted through injury and done absolutely everything right - also he's a completely unique player and arguably the most dynamic playmaker in the NFL. You take a chance on Hill imo - especially if you can extend him now for cheaper.

[O.city]

Play Berry until he snaps.

Then throw him in the dumpster.

I don't ****ing care anymore. I'm done. He's not a part of the team. He hasn't been for two seasons. He's not coming back or playing like the guy we paid.

So just use what's left of him and be done.

This is what I'd have done. I'm sure Berry didn't want to do that, but at some point, fuck man I dunno.

Get some injections and go.

[Bwana]

I can't say I'm surprised by this after what we have seen from the guy for the last two years. I also don't think he's the miracle worker some people seem to think he is either.

I was watching him carefully in the limited time he was on the field this year and he looked slow and was winded constantly. The guy was sucking air like he just got done with a marathon every time he was out there any longer than a few plays in a row.

It's just a shame the Chiefs are saddled with a monster Berry contract again next year, because they have a lot of holes to fill.

[FringeNC]

I'm actually more concerned with Watkins playing than Berry. Guess I've already written off Berry.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Hill has gutted through injury and done absolutely everything right - also he's a completely unique player and arguably the most dynamic playmaker in the NFL. You take a chance on Hill imo - especially if you can extend him now for cheaper.

Amen. That kid is an uber-performer.

[Marcellus]

Bummer

this day to day stuff is a distraction

Only to the people here really.

[MahiMike]

99 snaps so far this year. Maybe he wants a bonus for triple digits?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It's too bad that there is really no way to find out if any of the other players are unhappy about this situation. These are the times when we REALLY need a good mole in that locker room.

[The Franchise]

Play Berry until he snaps.

Then throw him in the dumpster.

I don't fucking care anymore. I'm done. He's not a part of the team. He hasn't been for two seasons. He's not coming back or playing like the guy we paid.

So just use what's left of him and be done.

This.

[Marcellus]

It's too bad that there is really no way to find out if any of the other players are unhappy about this situation. These are the times when we REALLY need a good mole in that locker room.

Go listen to the Dee Ford interview on 610. Nobody on the team is mad about this and to think otherwise is incredibly stupid.

[dlphg9]

Go listen to the Dee Ford interview on 610. Nobody on the team is mad about this and to think otherwise is incredibly stupid.

Yeah because everyone knows the guys in that locker room are constantly talking about problems in the locker room to the media. :drool:

[Strongside]

Yeah because everyone knows the guys in that locker room are constantly talking about problems in the locker room to the media. :drool:

That interview was actually the most real interview I've heard a Chiefs player give in quite some time. Dee went into some pretty good detail about things you don't hear guys talk about a whole lot. Talked about money through a pretty honest lens. It was great.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Go listen to the Dee Ford interview on 610. Nobody on the team is mad about this and to think otherwise is incredibly stupid.

I said "reality" Marcellus, not Dee Ford giving a radio interview where there is no way in all of god's earth, hell, and all points in between that he would dare utter a disparaging remark against a team mate.

There may be resentments that aren't even being vocalized in private. Some guys might be carrying it inside and keeping their lips tight, talking only to other team mates who are not happy, and doing so far away from the facilities.

You never know.

[dlphg9]

That interview was actually the most real interview I've heard a Chiefs player give in quite some time. Dee went into some pretty good detail about things you don't hear guys talk about a whole lot. Talked about money through a pretty honest lens. It was great.

I haven't heard it and cant seem to find it, but still no one is going to talk about locker room issues with Berry (if there are any) especially the guy thats trying to get a new contract.

[dlphg9]

I said "reality" Marcellus, not Dee Ford giving a radio interview where there is no way in all of god's earth, hell, and all points in between that he would dare utter a disparaging remark against a team mate.

There may be resentments that aren't even being vocalized in private. Some guys might be carrying it inside and keeping their lips tight, talking only to other team mates who are not happy, and doing so far away from the facilities.

You never know.

You would think at least a few guys would be pissed about it. I know if I was Tyreek then Id be pissed. Tyreek is getting paid next to nothing. He plays a more valuable position then Berry and could be argued as the best WR in the league. He also played through injury even though hes getting paid peanuts.

[lcarus]

I guess I just don't understand the injury situation. They could've surgically repaired his Haglund's a long time ago. If that bone spur is causing him pain it isn't gonna magically stop.

If it's just a matter of playing through pain you do what you gotta do to minimize it and play in the playoffs right?

[Mecca]

I guess I just don't understand the injury situation. They could've surgically repaired his Haglund's a long time ago. If that bone spur is causing him pain it isn't gonna magically stop.

If it's just a matter of playing through pain you do what you gotta do to minimize it and play in the playoffs right?

This is what happened in my view, he's likely had the issue for a long time. He's always tended to favor one side because of it..he blew the achillies on that side so now he's uncomfortable favoring it so now his heel is far more painful because of that.

He is thinking about his contract and how much of it he can see and he's prolonging any type of surgery that may require his other achillies to be unattached because a DB wtih 2 surgically redone achillies is probably done.

His decision making on the issue absolutely sucks for the team but I understand it's for business, he's going to make the Chiefs pay him as much of that deal as he can.

[Marcellus]

I said "reality" Marcellus, not Dee Ford giving a radio interview where there is no way in all of god's earth, hell, and all points in between that he would dare utter a disparaging remark against a team mate.

There may be resentments that aren't even being vocalized in private. Some guys might be carrying it inside and keeping their lips tight, talking only to other team mates who are not happy, and doing so far away from the facilities.

You never know.

The reality is this, players don't think like fans, especially fans with the emotional capacity of a 13 year old girl.

Do the players want him out there? Hell yea.

But if you think the other players on the team think Eric BErry is soft you are clueless as fuck.

Have you seen a single ex NFL player make a single remark about Berry's character on social media, on TV, or on the radio?

I know you have not because I haven't and I listen to, read, and watch as much NFL stuff as you do I am certain. Most likely more.

[Marcellus]

You would think at least a few guys would be pissed about it. I know if I was Tyreek then Id be pissed. Tyreek is getting paid next to nothing. He plays a more valuable position then Berry and could be argued as the best WR in the league. He also played through injury even though hes getting paid peanuts.

Who is he supposed to be pissed at? You really think the players think Berry is being a pussy? You actually think that?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I haven't heard it and cant seem to find it, but still no one is going to talk about locker room issues with Berry (if there are any) especially the guy thats trying to get a new contract.

Oh shit; and a contract year to boot? LMAO. Here it is. And yeah, he's a regular TMZ in this interview, that Dee Ford!

https://610sports.radio.com/media/audio-channel/1116-dee-ford-interview-hearing-criticism

You would think at least a few guys would be pissed about it. I know if I was Tyreek then Id be pissed. Tyreek is getting paid next to nothing. He plays a more valuable position then Berry and could be argued as the best WR in the league. He also played through injury even though hes getting paid peanuts.

I would think some guys would be pissed because they know how valuable he is when he's on his game and running the defense. I mean, the D has been pure dog shit for the most part this year and ANY advantage, ANY help at all could be the difference between continuing on in the playoffs or going home early.
In the past, this wasn't much the case but now that they have this prolific, killer offense and QB, I'm sure those dudes are antsy as fuck when the team gets in situations where the defense needs to come through and get a stop.
And not having Berry out there becomes a bowling ball on the scale as opposed to a pebble during Smiff's tenure.

[The Franchise]

Who is he supposed to be pissed at? You really think the players think Berry is being a pussy? You actually think that?

How do you know that there aren't players that maybe are upset with Berry for not playing? You talking in absolutes is just as retarded as anybody else doing it.

[EyePod]

Yeah because everyone knows the guys in that locker room are constantly talking about problems in the locker room to the media. :drool:

The Steeler's locker room is willing to talk about how Antonio Brown fucked up everything.

That's the thing, EB doesn't seem like he's just out partying. He's still on the sideline every game, helping the team, talking to players.

I hate to see him hurt like this though.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The reality is this, players don't think like fans, especially fans with the emotional capacity of a 13 year old girl.

Do the players want him out there? Hell yea.

But if you think the other players on the team think Eric BErry is soft you are clueless as fuck.

Have you seen a single ex NFL player make a single remark about Berry's character on social media, on TV, or on the radio?

I know you have not because I haven't and I listen to, read, and watch as much NFL stuff as you do I am certain. Most likely more.

I don't think anyone who beats cancer is "soft", but I also don't believe that Berry's "eye of the tiger" is what it used to be, either.

[Sassy Squatch]

The Steeler's locker room is willing to talk about how Antonio Brown fucked up everything.

That's the thing, EB doesn't seem like he's just out partying. He's still on the sideline every game, helping the team, talking to players.

I hate to see him hurt like this though.
The Steelers are an outlier. Tomlin has allowed that locker room to fester into something truly toxic.

[In58men]

@AdamSchefter: Eric Berry said his spirit is good to play on Saturday. His spirit, I’m told, is still day to day. #chiefskingdom #spirit #haglunds #frankgallagher #paidtosit

[Marcellus]

How do you know that there aren't players that maybe are upset with Berry for not playing? You talking in absolutes is just as retarded as anybody else doing it.

I think it's an absurd thought process and no my belief is not retarded. Players back other players 99.999% of the time and we aren't talking about Matt Cassel, we are talking about a 3 time All Pro who has come back from multiple injuries and Cancer.

I'm not the dumbass here, I assure you of that.

[tyton75]

Seems like Berry has an actual problem in his heel and may be refusing "pain relief" to allow him to play. Meaning, doesn't want to take the needle.

[The Franchise]

I think it's an absurd thought process and no my belief is not retarded. Players back other players 99.999% of the time and we aren't talking about Matt Cassel, we are talking about a 3 time All Pro who has come back from multiple injuries and Cancer.

I'm not the dumbass here, I assure you of that.

Says everyone who's ever had an opinion......in the history of time.

[Mecca]

In reality could some of those guys be annoyed at Berry? Yea absolutely, some of the older players who may be coming to the end or a fringe guy who thinks this is his only shot...

Just they're not dumb enough to say it to a reporter.

[Frazod]

Play Berry until he snaps.

Then throw him in the dumpster.

I don't fucking care anymore. I'm done. He's not a part of the team. He hasn't been for two seasons. He's not coming back or playing like the guy we paid.

So just use what's left of him and be done.

Perfectly stated. I'm way past sick of this shit. Professional thieves are in awe of how much of Clark's money Berry has stolen.

[UChieffyBugger]

Play Berry until he snaps.

Then throw him in the dumpster.

I don't ****ing care anymore. I'm done. He's not a part of the team. He hasn't been for two seasons. He's not coming back or playing like the guy we paid.

So just use what's left of him and be done.

SMH it's almost as if some folks don't look at these players as HUMAN BEINGS!!!...just like the "good old days" :rolleyes:

[Marcellus]

Says everyone who's ever had an opinion......in the history of time.

I assume you have twitter? Do you follow any of the Chiefs beat writers or anyone who covers the Chiefs for the Athletic or ESPN or any other media outlet?

Have you seen their comments and opinions on all of this?

[The Franchise]

I assume you have twitter? Do you follow any of the Chiefs beat writers or anyone who covers the Chiefs for the Athletic or ESPN or any other media outlet?

Have you seen their comments and opinions on all of this?

Sure...because I'm sure Chiefs beat writers are going to publicly call out a cancer survivor if his "spirit" isn't into playing that week.

[Sassy Squatch]

Seems like Berry has an actual problem in his heel and may be refusing "pain relief" to allow him to play. Meaning, doesn't want to take the needle.
I think the shot that would help him weakens the Achilles.

[The Franchise]

Who outside of Antonio Brown or Le'Veon Bell have been called out for not playing through an injury? And Bell wasn't even called out because of an injury. He was called out because he chose to hold out.

[Marcellus]

Who outside of Antonio Brown or Le'Veon Bell have been called out for not playing through an injury? And Bell wasn't even called out because of an injury. He was called out because he chose to hold out.


I just asked Mellinger his thoughts on this and whether he thinks any players have hard feelings over Berry not playing. :shrug: It will just be his opinion of course but I would guess he knows more than us. Ill report back if he says nothing of interest but I doubt he does.

Also its been pointed out Berry took his approach to the contract negotiations because the team didn't even offer him a contract after his rookie deal and franchised him without an offer and he played that year on the tag. At an All Pro level I might add. They could have gotten him cheaper the year before and been a year farther down the road on the contract.

Chiefs screwed this up in many ways.

[Marcellus]

Sure...because I'm sure Chiefs beat writers are going to publicly call out a cancer survivor if his "spirit" isn't into playing that week.

They have been adamantly defending him which they have no reason to do.

[The Franchise]

I just asked Mellinger his thoughts on this and whether he thinks any players have hard feelings over Berry not playing. :shrug: It will just be his opinion of course but I would guess he knows more than us. Ill report back if he says nothing of interest but I doubt he does.

Also its been pointed out Berry took his approach to the contract negotiations because the team didn't even offer him a contract after his rookie deal and franchised him without an offer and he played that year on the tag. At an All Pro level I might add. They could have gotten him cheaper the year before and been a year farther down the road on the contract.

Chiefs screwed this up in many ways.

The Chiefs AND Berry are at fault here.

[Marcellus]

The Chiefs AND Berry are at fault here.

What did Berry do wrong? Get as much $ as he could?

Hard to keep track around here, 99% of the time people take the players side and now...........

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

SMH it's almost as if some folks don't look at these players as HUMAN BEINGS!!!...just like the "good old days" :rolleyes:


ROFL

THERE HE IS!!!!!

(wuz' wundrin when you'd catch the scent, dawg)

[The Franchise]

What did Berry do wrong? Get as much $ as he could?

Hard to keep track around here, 99% of the time people take the players side and now...........

We get it. Berry can do no wrong. There is no point in arguing with you about anything related to Berry.

[PAChiefsGuy]

I agree with Marcellus. I don't see how you can get mad at a player for getting hurt. How some of you can joke about one of our players getting injured blows my mind. Let someone come and and put a bat to your ankle and we will see how funny you think it is then.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Also its been pointed out Berry took his approach to the contract negotiations because the team didn't even offer him a contract after his rookie deal and franchised him without an offer and he played that year on the tag. At an All Pro level I might add. They could have gotten him cheaper the year before and been a year farther down the road on the contract.

Chiefs screwed this up in many ways.

Who got the money instead?

[Sassy Squatch]

I agree with Marcellus. I don't see how you can get mad at a player for getting hurt. How some of you can joke about one of our players getting injured blows my mind. Let someone come and and put a bat to your ankle and we will see how funny you think it is then.
People joke about others dying horrific deaths on this site. Get over yourself.

[The Franchise]

I agree with Marcellus. I don't see how you can get mad at a player for getting hurt. How some of you can joke about one of our players getting injured blows my mind. Let someone come and and put a bat to your ankle and we will see how funny you think it is then.

Is that what happened? Someone took a bat to his ankle?

[Mecca]

I agree with Marcellus. I don't see how you can get mad at a player for getting hurt. How some of you can joke about one of our players getting injured blows my mind. Let someone come and and put a bat to your ankle and we will see how funny you think it is then.

People tend to lack sympathy when he makes a ton of money and he can't play cause he's sore. It's the suck it up and deal with it attitude...the same attitude that a lot of people apply to themselves when they go to work everyday.

[suzzer99]

Berry is still by all accounts the emotional leader of this team. If the players had any doubts about his toughness or willingness to play through pain when possible, I doubt they'd still flock to him.

I'm gonna go with their assessment over some dudes on an internet forum.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

And why do players get pissed about the tag? If the GM comes to me and says, "I need to shore up this and this and take care of this other contract which is due right now, but I'm going to pay you more in guaranteed money for ONE year than you would see in one year of a 5 year contract, and then we'll get you signed before the start of the following season", why the fuck the bad blood?

So afraid of an injury that you can't make it one more season on your initial contract? You know, the one you SIGNED?

[Sassy Squatch]

Oh, I believe Berry is still the leader of this defense. They very rarely, if ever, show up.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We get it. Berry can do no wrong. There is no point in arguing with you about anything related to Berry.

And Reid. Don't forget Reid.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Oh, I believe Berry is still the leader of this defense. They very rarely, if ever, show up.

ROFL

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Berry is not with the Chiefs for the start of their final practice of the week.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1083421326986104832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Frazod]

Berry is still by all accounts the emotional leader of this team. If the players had any doubts about his toughness or willingness to play through pain when possible, I doubt they'd still flock to him.

I'm gonna go with their assessment over some dudes on an internet forum.

Of course, us dudes on the internet have basically contributed the same amount of effort to the defense as Berry has, so there is that.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sammy Watkins was at Chiefs practice today. <br><br>Eric Berry was not. <br><br>Dorian O’Daniel was at practice, but not participating <a href="https://t.co/TOUjv6sXpD">pic.twitter.com/TOUjv6sXpD</a></p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1083421449803702272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Chiefnj2]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Berry is not with the Chiefs for the start of their final practice of the week.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1083421326986104832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I guess he took Spirit Air somewhere warm.

[siberian khatru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What was your favorite memory of Eric Berry with the Chiefs? I&#39;m not sure whether I&#39;m serious. <a href="https://t.co/iHP2rEaUX2">https://t.co/iHP2rEaUX2</a></p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1083422019507703808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[ModSocks]

Everyone calm down. They're saving him for the offseason.

[Sassy Squatch]

That seems a bit odd.

[dlphg9]

Probably having surgery

[TambaBerry]

SMH it's almost as if some folks don't look at these players as HUMAN BEINGS!!!...just like the "good old days" :rolleyes:

you mean its almost like every company in the god damn world? Doesnt matter skin color at all. What do you think would happen at my job if I came to work and told my boss, i jsut dont have the spirit to play today.

[O.city]

Maybe one of the big national media guys will pick up on it and give us something? Local guys haven't done much.

[In58men]

Like, he didn’t show up at all?

[KCFalcon59]

Berry is getting paid to play football. Not to sit on the sidelines and wait for his spirit to tell him to play. I love Berry. I wish he was playing, but this shit is a total clusterfuck.

At his rate of pay, he should have done whatever it takes to get on the field as soon as possible. He isn't doing that.

Cut him today if he isn't going to play the rest of the year. There is a higher probability that we don't see him play again in a Chiefs game than to see him this weekend or the rest of the playoffs.

[Jerok]

He's at a retreat getting his spirit ready

[ptlyon]

Like, he didn’t show up at all?

Like, No

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Really at this point, Berry should just have the surgery.

[staylor26]

Of course it has to be bittersweet with Watkins possibly coming back and Berry being out again.

God forbid we receive overwhelmingly positive news going into a playoff game.

[UChieffyBugger]

you mean its almost like every company in the god damn world? Doesnt matter skin color at all. What do you think would happen at my job if I came to work and told my boss, i jsut dont have the spirit to play today.

If folks want him cut then that's their business. But to suggest he should be used "until he snaps" and then "thrown in the trash" is straight gutter talk to me. They don't look at these players as humans imo, they are there to entertain and then thrown away like garbage. It's pitiful and much of the fans "love" for these players is fake as f#ck :rolleyes:

[O.city]

Of course it has to be bittersweet with Watkins possibly coming back and Berry being out again.

God forbid we receive overwhelmingly positive news going into a playoff game.

I think this is the healthiest they've been in the Reid era going into the playoffs.

Hopefully it stays that way.

[staylor26]

I think this is the healthiest they've been in the Reid era going into the playoffs.

Hopefully it stays that way.

Yea you’re right, but it still sucks

[O.city]

Yea you’re right, but it still sucks

The Berry part just sucks.

[The Franchise]

Maybe if Berry gets a ring this year.....he'll retire in the offseason. The dude's body is just done and he's made enough money that he can go take care of himself outside of football.

[UChieffyBugger]

The injury report later will reveal everything we need to know. Chiefs reporters are claiming that he missed "the start" of practice, so who knows if he might do some light work towards the end of it? Might be clutching at straws, but even if he doesn't play on Saturday, if we were to win and he's back for the championship game then all will still be well in my eyes. Sadly the Berry haters just can't get over their tedious "spirit" jokes and constant moaning about his paycheck. Meanwhile one of our top guards sits on the sidelines and is being paid a fortune but no-one ever mentions it!!!.

[The Franchise]

The injury report later will reveal everything we need to know. Chiefs reporters are claiming that he missed "the start" of practice, so who knows if he might do some light work towards the end of it? Might be clutching at straws, but even if he doesn't play on Saturday, if we were to win and he's back for the championship game then all will still be well in my eyes. Sadly the Berry haters just can't get over their tedious "spirit" jokes and constant moaning about his paycheck. Meanwhile one of our top guards sits on the sidelines and is being paid a fortune but no-one ever mentions it!!!.

LDT is on IR and hasn't been activated yet.....which is a team decision.

Are you that fucking stupid?

[O.city]

The injury report later will reveal everything we need to know. Chiefs reporters are claiming that he missed "the start" of practice, so who knows if he might do some light work towards the end of it? Might be clutching at straws, but even if he doesn't play on Saturday, if we were to win and he's back for the championship game then all will still be well in my eyes. Sadly the Berry haters just can't get over their tedious "spirit" jokes and constant moaning about his paycheck. Meanwhile one of our top guards sits on the sidelines and is being paid a fortune but no-one ever mentions it!!!.

The guard that broke his leg? Yeah, I hate that he can't play.

The fact that you equate these two situations, man, just take a step away.

[The Franchise]

The guard that broke his leg? Yeah, I hate that he can't play.

The fact that you equate these two situations, man, just take a step away.

He can't step away. Everything to him is a race issue. We all bitch about Berry because he's black but nobody bitches about LDT or Morse because they're white. Even though tons of people have been bitching about Morse and want him gone this offseason because he can't stay healthy.

[staylor26]

He can't step away. Everything to him is a race issue. We all bitch about Berry because he's black but nobody bitches about LDT or Morse because they're white. Even though tons of people have been bitching about Morse and want him gone this offseason because he can't stay healthy.

Honestly, I’m so over people pulling the race card that I refuse to engage with this moron.

Have you seen all of the people crying about the lack of black HC’s and the shorter leash they have?

[UChieffyBugger]

LDT is on IR and hasn't been activated yet.....which is a team decision.

Are you that ****ing stupid?

FOR TWO STRAIGHT YEARS HE'S GOTTEN INJURED AND IS GETTING PAID TOP DOLLAR FOR HIS POSITION. IF YOU'RE TOO THICK TO WORK OUT THAT HE'S ALSO COSTING THE ORGANISATION "MONEY" (LIKE BERRY) THEN GO BLOW A LAMPOST, BECAUSE I CAN'T HELP YOU BUDDY :rolleyes: .

[UChieffyBugger]

The guard that broke his leg? Yeah, I hate that he can't play.

The fact that you equate these two situations, man, just take a step away.

So Berry ruptured his achilles and has bone spurts as a result. Are you suggesting his injury is not bad too? And whatever happened to LDT is beyond the point. He was injured LAST YEAR as well and missed several games. But hey, like I said, NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT and nobody mentions his paycheck :rolleyes: .

[UChieffyBugger]

Honestly, I’m so over people pulling the race card that I refuse to engage with this moron.

Have you seen all of the people crying about the lack of black HC’s and the shorter leash they have?

LOL Thanks for proving my point, idiot ROFL

[Sassy Squatch]

Uhoh. The retarded racist patrol is here.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GratefulDigitalClumber-size_restricted.gif

[UChieffyBugger]

Yay one of the biggest pr/cks has joined the party and is....

https://www.tesco-baby.com/content/uploads/2013/11/AM_b_sle_what-do-I-do-if-baby-cries-at-night_WP.jpg

AS USUAL!!! :D

[The Franchise]

LDT - in three seasons he's missed 18 regular season games. His cap hits in those years? $2.7 million, $5.3 million and $8.2 million.

Berry - in three seasons he's missed 29 regular season games. His cap hits in those years? $5 million, $13.5 million and $16.5 million.

Yep...totally the same thing.

[JoeyChuckles]

Honestly, I’m so over people pulling the race card that I refuse to engage with this moron.

Have you seen all of the people crying about the lack of black HC’s and the shorter leash they have?

I find your use of the word leash in this comparison offensive. Please stop /sarcasm.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Of course, us dudes on the internet have basically contributed the same amount of effort to the defense as Berry has, so there is that.

ROFL

We SMASH his puny "spirit"!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=117634&stc=1&d=1547146049

[UChieffyBugger]

LDT - in three seasons he's missed 18 regular season games. His cap hits in those years? $2.7 million, $5.3 million and $8.2 million.

Berry - in three seasons he's missed 29 regular season games. His cap hits in those years? $5 million, $13.5 million and $16.5 million.

Yep...totally the same thing.

LOL at this dude moving the goalposts to suit his agenda!!!..I SAID THE LAST TWO SEASONS!!!..you know, since LDT GOT PAID?! Both him and Morse have missed an extortionate amount of games but no-one says a word. Sammy and Berry miss games and the world falls in!!!..DO THE MATHS :rolleyes:

[TLO]

ROFL

We SMASH his puny "spirit"!

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[Sassy Squatch]

Yeah, guys. Do the maths.

[The Franchise]

You want the last two seasons? ROFL It gets worse for you.

LDT - in two seasons has missed 16 regular season games out of 32 possible.
Berry - in two seasons has missed 29 regular season games out of 32 possible.

LDT - Cap hits total for those 16 games missed? $13.5 million.
Berry - Cap hits total for those 29 games missed? $30 million.

[Yosef_Malkovitch]

You want the last two seasons? ROFL It gets worse for you.

LDT - in two seasons has missed 16 regular season games out of 32 possible.
Berry - in two seasons has missed 29 regular season games out of 32 possible.

LDT - Cap hits total for those 16 games missed? $13.5 million.
Berry - Cap hits total for those 29 games missed? $30 million.

Whoopsie doodle! Someone just got told!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

:clap: :clap:

FXD. Kindly do the same, please.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You want the last two seasons? ROFL It gets worse for you.

LDT - in two seasons has missed 16 regular season games out of 32 possible.
Berry - in two seasons has missed 29 regular season games out of 32 possible.

LDT - Cap hits total for those 16 games missed? $13.5 million.
Berry - Cap hits total for those 29 games missed? $30 million.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet...you did the mafs!

[The Franchise]

Did I move the goalposts again?

[Marcellus]

We get it. Berry can do no wrong. There is no point in arguing with you about anything related to Berry.

Never said that and most of this argument has been about the other players not Berry, so stick a tampon up your bleeding ass.

[Marcellus]

Maybe one of the big national media guys will pick up on it and give us something? Local guys haven't done much.

Why do you suppose ESPN, NFLN, FOX Sports, and all the other major media outlets haven't said a thing about Berry other than he isn't practicing or whatever? No crazy speculations or accusations?

[The Franchise]

Why do you suppose ESPN, NFLN, FOX Sports, and all the other major media outlets haven't said a thing about Berry other than he isn't practicing or whatever? No crazy speculations or accusations?

Because he's been out most of this season and last season (including last week).....so it's not really breaking news.

[Marcellus]

Because he's been out most of this season and last season (including last week).....so it's not really breaking news.

Right.......or maybe they just see it for what it is. A guy is hurt and cant play.

[kysirsoze]

Berry situation is what it is. Who knows? I'm currently more concerned about O'Daniel. He seems to be a big upgrade against the run/screen game. Hope he can go but it doesn't sound like it.

[Marcellus]

Berry situation is what it is. Who knows? I'm currently more concerned about O'Daniel. He seems to be a big upgrade against the run/screen game. Hope he can go but it doesn't sound like it.

We got here without Berry, I just hope to hell they keep playing Lucas.

[Toad]

Very disappointed....
I never knew maths had plurality

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Berry and Dorian O’Daniel didn’t practice today for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>. <br><br>When asked, Reid was non-committal about Berry’s status for Saturday’s game.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1083440680515633154?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[The Franchise]

We got here without Berry, I just hope to hell they keep playing Lucas.

It looks like it's going to be a combination of Sorensen, Murray and Lucas. Parker and Scandrick have been demoted completely.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Very disappointed....
I never knew maths had plurality

The King's English is as the spirit moves it...

[JakeF]

Berry will get cut or retire next year. I'm not sure he gives a shit anymore.

[58-4ever]

Berry will get cut or retire next year. I'm not sure he gives a shit anymore.

his Mana doesn't connect with our CHI and such ...

[JakeF]

his Mana doesn't connect with our CHI and such ...ROFL

[TambaBerry]

i wish a reporter had balls actually and would just straight up ask what the fuck is going on with him. It is like the most secretive injury in nfl history

[YayMike]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Berry and Dorian O’Daniel didn’t practice today for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>. <br><br>When asked, Reid was non-committal about Berry’s status for Saturday’s game.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1083440680515633154?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JFC......

any word about LDT????

[JimNasium]

i wish a reporter had balls actually and would just straight up ask what the fuck is going on with him. It is like the most secretive injury in nfl history

Why would any NFL coach be transparent about injuries?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source says the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have adjusted their defensive packages in expectation of Berry not playing this weekend. Not ruled out yet but they’re working with contingency plans. <a href="https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs">https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1083443393144016899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

JFC......

any word about LDT????

Who cares about LDT. Wylie is a beast!

[Third Eye]

Very disappointed....
I never knew maths had plurality

A good chunk of English speaking countries say maths. It actually makes sense considering it is short for mathematics.

[TambaBerry]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source says the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have adjusted their defensive packages in expectation of Berry not playing this weekend. Not ruled out yet but they’re working with contingency plans. <a href="https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs">https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1083443393144016899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

See he has become a distraction

[YayMike]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source says the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have adjusted their defensive packages in expectation of Berry not playing this weekend. Not ruled out yet but they’re working with contingency plans. <a href="https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs">https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1083443393144016899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seriously?!?! This ticks me off beyond measure

[YayMike]

Who cares about LDT. Wylie is a beast!

LDT moves to the other side, an extra bonus!

[SupDock]

I was ready to eat crow about my take on Berry through the season when he finally started. Glad I decided to wait because the fuckery continues

[FloridaMan88]

LDT healthy enough to participate in some sort of OL pass catching drill...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also LDT caught a pass.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1083422217197752321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">*not a trick play, an OL receiver drill the Chiefs run during the last practice of every week</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1083424104827506688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[-King-]

Welp, looks like that's it for Eric Berry's career in KC. Sad it might end like this.

[FloridaMan88]

Welp, looks like that's it for Eric Berry's career in KC. Sad it might end like this.

Welcome to 5 months ago.

[htismaqe]

Welp, looks like that's it for Eric Berry's career in KC. Sad it might end like this.

No kidding. He was once my favorite player. While I'm not going to start calling him names and acting pissy, I do wish that he would just go away and let the team move on.

[JakeF]

Who cares about LDT. Wylie is a beast! :doh!:

LDT plays on the right
Wylie plays on the left

It's Allen/Erving that gets the boot out of the starting lineup.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

:doh!:

LDT plays on the right
Wylie plays on the left

It's Jeff Allen and Erving that gets the boot out of the starting lineup.

LDT hasn’t played in months you honestly want him starting this game?

[ptlyon]

LDT hasn’t played in months you honestly want him starting this game?

So we should sit him the rest of the year?

[JakeF]

LDT hasn’t played in months you honestly want him starting this game?
That's not what I said.

I was responding to someone that said 'who cares about LDT'. While he probably doesn't start this week, if we win he might start the next game. LDT and Wylie bring a much stronger interior line than we currently have so we should all care about LDT.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Welp, looks like that's it for Eric Berry's career in KC. Sad it might end like this.

Talk about ending with a thud...

Or a fizzly fart.

Or a Black Cat firecracker that turns out to be a dud.

Or anything by Burger King.

Or Metallica's "St. Anger".

Or a pimple on prom night.

Or a Herm Edwards commentary.

Or Caddyshack 2.

Or that sound they make on 'Hee Haw' between skits.

Or Buddy Rich with no hands.

Or McCauly Caulkin as an adult.

[OKchiefs]

What's the point in keeping this motherfucker on the roster? Send him to IR and tell him to stay at home. If the Steelers can eat $21 million in cap space from trading their own problem child, we can deal with Berry's cap hit as well. It's time to rip off the band-aid and get rid of this waste.

[ptlyon]

Talk about ending with a thud...

Or a fizzly fart.

Or a Black Cat firecracker that turns out to be a dud.

Or anything by Burger King.

Or Metallica's "St. Anger".

Or a pimple on prom night.

Or a Herm Edwards commentary.

Or Caddyshack 2.

Or that sound they make on 'Hee Haw' between skits.

Or Buddy Rich with no hands.

Or McCauly Caulkin as an adult.

Or the sound of CHA CHING!

[-King-]

What's the point in keeping this motherfucker on the roster? Send him to IR and tell him to stay at home. If the Steelers can eat $21 million in cap space from trading their own problem child, we can deal with Berry's cap hit as well. It's time to rip off the band-aid and get rid of this waste.

Calm down. Looks like you'll get your wish in the off-season.

[Sassy Squatch]

Eric Berry got scared at the thought of playing a team of young male horses and went home.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Or the sound of CHA CHING!

LMAO Yeah, that too. That money sure could buy some good young defensive talent... :shake:

"THANKS ClUCK"(!) says Berry as he Haglunds out the door and gimp-steps his way to the airport to spend the rest of the winter in the south seas.

[RunKC]

Calm down. Looks like you'll get your wish in the off-season.

Not unless Berry wants to. He’s going to get surgery and not pass the physical to force us to pay him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another $7.25M of Eric Berry&#39;s 2019 base salary is guaranteed for injury. This $7.25M becomes fully guaranteed on the 3rd day of the league year. <a href="https://t.co/DrnBBndmmi">https://t.co/DrnBBndmmi</a></p>&mdash; Joel Corry (@corryjoel) <a href="https://twitter.com/corryjoel/status/1083114137087930368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[JakeF]

Not unless Berry wants to. He’s going to get surgery and not pass the physical to force us to pay him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another $7.25M of Eric Berry&#39;s 2019 base salary is guaranteed for injury. This $7.25M becomes fully guaranteed on the 3rd day of the league year. <a href="https://t.co/DrnBBndmmi">https://t.co/DrnBBndmmi</a></p>&mdash; Joel Corry (@corryjoel) <a href="https://twitter.com/corryjoel/status/1083114137087930368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Makes sense, Berry is trying to delay the surgery until right before next year so that the Chiefs have to pay him another year of his guarantee. The team treated him like a member of the family and Berry is deliberately doing all his can to fuck the Chiefs over.

Before anyone says "who cares, it's not our money", if Berry does force the Chiefs to pay the 7.5m next year that counts against our cap which limits the amount of money we have to spend on fixing our defense next year.

We don't know for sure yet, but it appears as if Berry is giving Chiefs Kingdom the big middle finger on his way out the door.

We'll see

[Marcellus]

Thinking about this at lunch today I have to wonder if somewhere between Berry recovering from cancer treatments and the achilles tear he hasn't bought into some holistic healing bullshit and therefore refuses to put painkillers or any other unnatural drugs in his body?

His crazy ass hair and beard does make it look like he has gone a bit off the reservation.

I can't imagine players are contractually obligated to take prescription or over the counter pain meds.

That would be a pretty shitty deal if thats whats going on but I can't think of another explanation. He won't take the pain killers and he is trying to play without them and it isn't working maybe?

[ptlyon]

He won't take the pain killers and he is trying to play without them and it isn't working maybe?

Wtf. He isn't even showing up for practice.

[In58men]

Thinking about this at lunch today I have to wonder if somewhere between Berry recovering from cancer treatments and the achilles tear he hasn't bought into some holistic healing bullshit and therefore refuses to put painkillers or any other unnatural drugs in his body?

His crazy ass hair and beard does make it look like he has gone a bit off the reservation.

I can't imagine players are contractually obligated to take prescription or over the counter pain meds.

That would be a pretty shitty deal if thats whats going on but I can't think of another explanation. He won't take the pain killers and he is trying to play without them and it isn't working maybe?

Possibly

[Otter]

Yeah, berry isn't a team distraction at all.

[tyton75]

If LDT is healthy, he starts at RG! Wylie moves to LG and we roll em up. I could see that being the starting lineup next year.

[FloridaMan88]

Bob Sutton all but said yesterday the uncertainty surrounding Eric Berry's availability is a distraction.

At this point just shut him down and then hopefully both sides can figure out an amicable exit strategy in the offseason that works out for both parties.

[OKchiefs]

Bob Sutton all but said yesterday the uncertainty surrounding Eric Berry's availability is a distraction.

At this point just shut him down and then hopefully both sides can figure out an amicable exit strategy in the offseason that works out for both parties.

Berry has proven to be incredibly selfish. He's the exact opposite of Gil Meche. He won't do anything to give up any money and help the team.

[Marcellus]

Berry has proven to be incredibly selfish. He's the exact opposite of Gil Meche. He won't do anything to give up any money and help the team.

What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.

[Sassy Squatch]

Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.

[TinyEvel]

Reid just went on record that they are game planning for Saturday without Berry.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001009499/article/injuries-chiefs-preparing-for-colts-without-eric-berry

[DaFace]

Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.

:spock:

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?

[BossChief]

What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.

I read somewhere that if they do an injury settlement that there would be some cap relief.

This is gonna get messy, though. It’s why owners should let the people they hire do their jobs.

Clark stepped in on 2 deals...Bowe and Berry...and was lucky Bowe fucked himself or that deal would have screwed KCs cap too.

[MIAdragon]

Reid just went on record that they are game planning for Saturday without Berry.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001009499/article/injuries-chiefs-preparing-for-colts-without-eric-berry

Jfc.

[ptlyon]

:spock:

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?

I hope Reid doesn't send all of the players out in search of Berry's spirit and wear them all out

[BlackOp]

The worst thing, by far, that transpired out of this entire shit-show...is Berry's agent and the holdout tactic that ultimately set the stage for Dorsey's firing.

KC lost the best GM in franchise history over a record contract for a player that lasted all of 2 games. He didnt want to sign Berry...and it ended up costing him his job..

I hold Berry responsible for that...

[Sassy Squatch]

:spock:

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?
Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was fucked up.

[Marcellus]

I read somewhere that if they do an injury settlement that there would be some cap relief.

This is gonna get messy, though. It’s why owners should let the people they hire do their jobs.

Clark stepped in on 2 deals...Bowe and Berry...and was lucky Bowe ****ed himself or that deal would have screwed KCs cap too.

There wasn't going to be an injury settlement during this season. They wanted him to play.

Next season? :shrug:

I say cut him with post June 1st designation and move on.

[JakeF]

Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.
Yep, several times the Chiefs have delayed handling injuries and had them cause drawn out problems. Houston didn't have surgery immediately, Berry didn't have surgery immediately. Maybe the players are refusing, but if that is the case then why are we treating players like this with such kid gloves?

We should never have given Houston and Berry huge contracts. We would have been better off trading them or letting them walk for comp picks. That's 30 million per year of cap space freed up.

[Buckweath]

So my understanding is that Berry will not play this weekend but would be day-to-day to play in the AFC Championship if the Chiefs were to advance. Is that correct?

[htismaqe]

Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was fucked up.

The team can't force him to have surgery.

This is 100% on Eric Berry.

[BossChief]

Reid just went on record that they are game planning for Saturday without Berry.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001009499/article/injuries-chiefs-preparing-for-colts-without-eric-berry

He doesn’t say Berry won’t play. He says his status is the same as the rest of the year. Day to day.

This situation is going to be the difference maker, imo.

The offense is going to need to score 50 if Berry is out.

[Marcellus]

Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was ****ed up.

People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.

[Sassy Squatch]

The team can't force him to have surgery.

This is 100% on Eric Berry.
Then NFI his ass and make him choose between arbitration or surgery.

[OKchiefs]

What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.

None of what you just said discredits what I said. You're the biggest dumbass here. A reasonable player who signed a recordbreaking contract but was unable to perform at all for the life of the contract would agree to an injury settlement. Eric Berry is selfish and isn't a reasonable player. Berry has made roughly $90 million in his career so far and will end up making almost $140 million when it's all said and done despite only being available roughly half the time. A reasonable player would see that their contract is hurting the team and agree to a reduced salary to help the team. Hell, Berry is making more than Tom Brady at this point. Let that sink in.

[Buckweath]

He doesn’t say Berry won’t play. He says his status is the same as the rest of the year. Day to day.

This situation is going to be the difference maker, imo.

The offense is going to need to score 50 if Berry is out.

Berry is out.

Don't be in denial now. It is obvious.

[BossChief]

Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was fucked up.

How about 4-5 years ago when the problem started?

[The Franchise]

June 1st cut him in the offseason and be done with this shit.

[htismaqe]

Then NFI his ass and make him choose between arbitration or surgery.

He was recovering from an achilles tendon tear, he finished last year on IR. I don't think NFI was ever possible.

[JakeF]

There wasn't going to be an injury settlement during this season. They wanted him to play.

Next season? :shrug:

I say cut him with post June 1st designation and move on.
Berry is going to prevent that by waiting to have his surgery. They will have to negotiate an injury settlement then. Berry will force them to pay out the ass.

[Sassy Squatch]

People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.
You mean the same sore heel that caused him to overcompensate and blow out his Achilles in the other foot a year prior?

[Marcellus]

He doesn’t say Berry won’t play. He says his status is the same as the rest of the year. Day to day.

This situation is going to be the difference maker, imo.

The offense is going to need to score 50 if Berry is out.

Berry hasn't played all season and we give up an average of 3 pts less than the other teams road scoring average at home.

The colts scored around 24pts per game on the road this season. If that holds true that puts the Colts at 21pts.

Thats far cry from needing to score 50.

[htismaqe]

How about 4-5 years ago when the problem started?

That would have obviously been best.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.

Yes but not really. I'm pretty sure it was only the fans who were pushing the whole, "he'll be ready by October-week six-Hanukkah-week 10-Ramadan-the playoffs"(!)-bullshit.

[BossChief]

Berry is out.

Don't be in denial now. It is obvious.
Because it’s so incredibly important I’m going to hold out hope till hope is completely gone

[htismaqe]

They should have never re-signed him. I wish that weren't true but it is. They should have let him walk, cancer or not.

[Marcellus]

You mean the same sore heel that caused him to overcompensate and blow out his Achilles in the other foot a year prior?

What part of his heal wasn't sore going into TC do you not understand?

So he starts getting a sore heal in TC, you think they should have immediately scheduled him for season ending surgery? Seriously?

[OKchiefs]

People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.

He wasn't 💯 healthy. Even if you're in denial and unwilling to admit it, the bone spurs almost certainly date back to 2017 or earlier. How else do you explain heel pain in the same foot during 2017 preseason?

And getting the surgery in augior September is a huge difference. He'd possibly be healthy by the spring and his contract wouldn't be guaranteed for injury. Now he will likely miss all of OTAs and minicamp and we'll go into another preseason questioning his availability and day to day status.

[JakeF]

How about 4-5 years ago when the problem started?
The Chiefs should have stopped this shit when cancer started instead of paying him all that money when they didn't have to.

[OKchiefs]

What part of his heal wasn't sore going into TC do you not understand?

So he starts getting a sore heal in TC, you think they should have immediately scheduled him for season ending surgery? Seriously?

The exact same heel was sore in 2017 training camp. If you're too dense to see the signioor relevance of that then I can't help you. His heel issues were known well before 2018 and he or the team didn't do their due diligence to make sure he was physically ready and capable.

[Marcellus]

They should have never re-signed him. I wish that weren't true but it is. They should have let him walk, cancer or not.

Spilt milk.

Like I said earlier I think where they fucked up was franchising him instead of getting him cheaper sooner and being another year along in the contract at this point which would make cutting bait even cheaper.

People forget he played on the franchise tag and had an All Pro season.

[BossChief]

Berry hasn't played all season and we give up an average of 3 pts less than the other teams road scoring average at home.

The colts scored around 24pts per game on the road this season. If that holds true that puts the Colts at 21pts.

Thats far cry from needing to score 50.

Indy is going to score at will on our defense, imo.

[Marcellus]

The exact same heel was sore in 2017 training camp. If you're too dense to see the signioor relevance of that then I can't help you. His heel issues were known well before 2018 and he or the team didn't do their due diligence to make sure he was physically ready and capable.

OK then, what should they have done different? Whats this due diligence you speak of?

I mean you obviously know, lets hear it.

[htismaqe]

Spilt milk.

Like I said earlier I think where they fucked up was franchising him instead of getting him cheaper sooner and being another year along in the contract at this point which would make cutting bait even cheaper.

People forget he played on the franchise tag and had an All Pro season.

Oh yeah, it's definitely hindsight, no doubt about it.

[Iczer]

What part of his heal wasn't sore going into TC do you not understand?

So he starts getting a sore heal in TC, you think they should have immediately scheduled him for season ending surgery? Seriously?

Had they done their due diligence, I'd say yes.

If he can't practice and it's been shown that time off won't heal it. Then all they've done is wasted precious time to heal and be ready next year.

John Wall has battled this for years supposedly but got to a point where it was too painful and they did surgery immediately. I'd say if Berry can't play, practice without pain... it's time.

Besides, how much can you really expect Berry to make an impact when he's on a snap count and has been out during the most critical times of games. Hasn't played most of the year and is obviously in pain.

[The Franchise]

They should have never re-signed him. I wish that weren't true but it is. They should have let him walk, cancer or not.

The Chiefs were in a lose lose situation with Berry. Re-sign him and overpay the shit out of him. Or let him walk and get roasted by the fanbase and media for letting a cancer survivor walk.

[ptlyon]

Indy is going to score at will on our defense, imo.

Fuck it. Let em. It ain't getting any easier from here on out so might as well cut it off now and not prolong the agony.

JFC

[BlackOp]

Chiefs gambled on whether to IR him or not...and they lost. He was going to get paid either way. It was a calculated move...I've never heard of a player missing an entire season over having a sore heel.

Would have been nice to get DAT back for the post-season.

[OKchiefs]

OK then, what should they have done different? Whats this due diligence you speak of?

I mean you obviously know, lets hear it.

Surgery should have been done a year ago while he was rehabbing the other foot. The heel issues are not new to Berry in 2018. He should have had repairs done to both feet. As I mentioned before, Troy Tulowitzki had repairs done on both feet, so don't tell me it's not possible to repair both at the same time.

[htismaqe]

The Chiefs were in a lose lose situation with Berry. Re-sign him and overpay the shit out of him. Or let him walk and get roasted by the fanbase and media for letting a cancer survivor walk.

Yep.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Had they done their due diligence, I'd say yes.

If he can't practice and it's been shown that time off won't heal it. Then all they've done is wasted precious time to heal and be ready next year.

John Wall has battled this for years supposedly but got to a point where it was too painful and they did surgery immediately. I'd say if Berry can't play, practice without pain... it's time.

Besides, how much can you really expect Berry to make an impact when he's on a snap count and has been out during the most critical times of games. Hasn't played most of the year and is obviously in pain.

Exactly.

Just an unfortunate situation. Shit happens. We just gotta move on and play football with the guys we have.

[O.city]

I don't have a problem with seeing if it will heal, but once they got into October and it wasn't getting better, just go ahead and have surgery.