KC CHIEFS vs. NE PATRIOTS: Who wins? Your predictions?

[Trivers]

AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

At KC.

Who wins?

Your predictions?

What say yea?

[BleedingRed]

Chiefs 38
Patriots 31

[LGOLED]

NE 23
KC 3

[Trivers]

KC wins 36 to 28.

[wazu]

Chiefs 28
Patriots 23

Chiefs down by 2 late, come back to win it with a touchdown instead of trying to set up for a field goal.

[Chiefnj2]

KC by 4

[203Pat]

Pats 31-28

[Renegade]

Pats 31-28

Just for clarification that is Patrick you are referring too, correct!

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Kansas City 42
Cheats 24

Chiefs assume their rightful place as the new gold standard of the NFL for the next 15+ years.

[Prison Bitch]

I took the over.

Feel good folks if even I see a big day cumming up.

[notorious]

35-32. Chiefs win.

[New World Order]

27-23 Chiefs

[big nasty kcnut]

You're asking for my prediction? Pain for the patriots!

[Reerun_KC]

42-17 Chiefs

[The Franchise]

Chiefs - 34
Patriots - 27

[FAX]

Kansas City 42
Cheats 24

Chiefs assume their rightful place as the new gold standard of the NFL for the next 15+ years.

This sounds about right. Margin-wise.

Except the score is probably too high on both sides. (-5 degrees is cold and even a deflated ball will be hard to grip.) I'll give the Cheaters 17 points and the Chiefs 30 or more.

FAX

[Zebedee DuBois]

Where's the option for "by eleventy million"??

KC eleventy million and 3
NE 3 (garbage time)

[Jerm]

34-24 Chiefs

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Chiefs 31
Patriots 28

Butker kicks a FG with no time left to bring things home full circle.

[DaFace]

I feel oddly confident about this game. They've been awful on the road this season, and I don't see any reason this game should be any different.

38-28 Chiefs.

[Mile High Mania]

I don't know why, but I think it's a 13 point victory.

Close game throughout, but leading by 6 in the 4th... KC scores to go up 13. Game essentially ends when KC is able to wind down the clock after a late Brady INT.

Chiefs 37
Patriots 24

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[TomBarndtsTwin]

Chiefs are flying in Eli Manning as a 'VIP Guest' for this game.

We all know Tom and the Pats can't win a big game when Eli is in the stadium.


We got this. KC 41-24

[2112]

Chiefs 38-35

[Mile High Mania]

Chiefs are flying in Eli Manning as a 'VIP Guest' for this game.

We all know Tom and the Pats can't win a big game when Eli is in the stadium.


We got this. KC 41-24

They should ask Peyton to do the coin flip... Mannings kept him from winning 5 SBs.

[mr. tegu]

This is going to be another wipeout. Chiefs win 41-20.

[MeaTy The Pimp]

While the homer in me says we break Tom Brady in half and watch the dust pour out on our way to 45- 12 rout of the Pats, the realist in me thinks we are more likely to win a close hard fought battle 34-31 on our way to the super bowl.

[PHOG]

Chiefs 36 Cheatriots 27 :thumb:

[JimNasium]

Chiefs by 10 and the game will never be in question.

[Reerun_KC]

Considering we won’t be discussed much this week. It’s brady blow show.

[RunKC]

We are playing with absolute confidence, we’re stringing together consecutive complete games, we have the MVP and Arrowhead will be as loud as it has ever been.

NE-21
KC-34

[God of Thunder]

28-27 KC

[htismaqe]

We are playing with absolute confidence, we’re stringing together consecutive complete games, we have the MVP and Arrowhead will be as loud as it has ever been.

NE-21
KC-34

34-21 is about what I'm thinking too.

[listopencil]

You're asking for my prediction? Pain for the patriots!


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[comochiefsfan]

I honestly think we blow them out. Dead serious.

New England blew their wad against the Chargers. They are nowhere NEAR as good on the road.

Arrowhead will be an absolute madhouse on Sunday. Our guys will come out with their hair on fire. We are about to shove 40 years of frustration right down Brady's throat on an electric night. Mahomes will solidify himself as the new class of the NFL.

Chiefs 41
Pats 21

[Craqhead]

33 - 31 Chiefs.

[digger]

31-18 Chiefs to the Superbowl...

[Chris Meck]

Chiefs, 38-10.

The defensive turnaround is for real. There's a sack-n-strip scoop-n-score in there.

[Garcia Bronco]

Chiefs 38
Patriots 10

[Stormageddon]

KC 4759 to -3.

Fight me.

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[DJay23]

I honestly think we blow them out. Dead serious.

New England blew their wad against the Chargers. They are nowhere NEAR as good on the road.

Arrowhead will be an absolute madhouse on Sunday. Our guys will come out with their hair on fire. We are about to shove 40 years of frustration right down Brady's throat on an electric night. Mahomes will solidify himself as the new class of the NFL.

Chiefs 41
Pats 21

I agree for all of these reason and I've been saying it to anyone who will listen to me since Sunday night.

I think its a little lower scoring game than this though.

Chiefs 28
Pats 13

[okcchief]

Chiefs 42 Pats 23


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[wutamess]

I honestly think we blow them out. Dead serious.

New England blew their wad against the Chargers. They are nowhere NEAR as good on the road.

Arrowhead will be an absolute madhouse on Sunday. Our guys will come out with their hair on fire. We are about to shove 40 years of frustration right down Brady's throat on an electric night. Mahomes will solidify himself as the new class of the NFL.

Chiefs 41
Pats 21

This! I've never been as confident as I am about the Chiefs in the playoffs. I figured Indy would be a blowout. I was right.

[stevieray]

Remember that late dropped in the EZ TD by the Colts?

It's like they were never even destined to play well that day.

I know it's just a dropped pass, but it seemed like uh oh..here we go....Chiefs aren't going to be denied.

:shrug:

That said, I think it repeats this weekend. Just electric.

[CupidStunt]

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[bishop_74]

Hilary Clinton wins by a landslide.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

NE is awful at Arrowhead. KC by 14

[Munson]

Chiefs 34
Belicheats 27

[crayzkirk]

Chiefs 36
Patriots 27

[BandwagonChiefsFan]

Chiefs 9000, Cheatriots 0

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[smithandrew051]

Without mentioning the past, I’ve yet to hear a compelling reason to pick New England. All signs point to the Chiefs for me in this one, similar to the game against the Colts.

Also, we should bring back Bernard Pollard to bang the drum.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Without mentioning the past, I’ve yet to hear a compelling reason to pick New England. All signs point to the Chiefs for me in this one, similar to the game against the Colts.

Also, we should bring back Bernard Pollard to bang the drum.

Most arguments would be based on past performance. NE is really successful in the postseason so they're the safe pick I guess.

But NE isn't as successful in Arrowhead than in Foxboro. Mahomes is going to be hard to stop. Arrowhead is going to be berserk.

[Naptown Chief]

41-20 KC

Clete Fuckface gifts Gronk a DPI on NE's final drive and Brady tosses it to him the next play as a retirement gift.
Score is closer than the actual game.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

As long as our defence plays like they did on Saturday I think this is a blowout. 35-14, Chiefs.

[RetiredSeniorChief]

KC rolls 42-17, Pats can't handle Arrowhead.

[CoMoChief]

Fuck the following with a nice big pointy cactus.

203Pat, MAG, PatriotNation, TimBone, LGOLED, listopencil

[Hannah Barbarian]

Hahah 5% voting for Pats
Now that sh*t is unbiased
:D

[jaa1025]

I'm not sure this game will be particularly close.

Pats D on the road is as bad as the Chiefs D has been on the road. The Pats aren't holding KC below 30 and they won't score 30 on KC here.

38-20 Chiefs

[Matt101KC]

KC 35
Pats 17
go KC

[Reroka]

Chiefs 40, pats 38

[TwistedChief]

Hahah 5% voting for Pats
Now that sh*t is unbiased
:D

ESPN.com asked some experts last week whom they thought would win if this matchup ultimately came to fruition, and I recall something like 1/11 (~9%) favored the Patriots. So there’s that as a more unbiased sample.

Mind you, this doesn’t mean anyone thinks the odds are 5-9% the Patriots win. I personally think you have a 30% chance.

[EyePod]

EITHER 1 score game where it could be either team or the Chiefs rout. Those are the only two options I see.

I'm going to lean with Chiefs 35 Patriots 30

[EyePod]

ESPN.com asked some experts last week whom they thought would win if this matchup ultimately came to fruition, and I recall something like 1/11 (~9%) favored the Patriots. So there’s that as a more unbiased sample.

Mind you, this doesn’t mean anyone thinks the odds are 5-9% the Patriots win. I personally think you have a 30% chance.

I think that there's two pieces here - first - this is a Chiefs forum. We're obviously biased to the better team.

Second - ESPN is garbage. All around hot garbage.

Third - Vegas disagrees with you. Line opened up at Chiefs -3.

Fourth - 5 losses against 4 non-playoff teams, all on the road. Brady can't hack it away from Gisele.

Edit: I replied to the wrong person - meant to reply to the Masshole.

[Hannah Barbarian]

I think that there's two pieces here - first - this is a Chiefs forum. We're obviously biased to the better team.

Second - ESPN is garbage. All around hot garbage.

Third - Vegas disagrees with you. Line opened up at Chiefs -3.

Fourth - 5 losses against 4 non-playoff teams, all on the road. Brady can't hack it away from Gisele.

Edit: I replied to the wrong person - meant to reply to the Masshole.

7-1 and 8-0 on the road last two years. So that statement is BS, as expected.

[lawrenceRaider]

Chiefs 31

*Pats 28

[SuperBowl4]

CHIEFS 49
patriots 3

[Hannah Barbarian]

Pats 35-31

[pugsnotdrugs19]

7-1 and 8-0 on the road last two years. So that statement is BS, as expected.

Last year has nothing to do with this year. The Chiefs aren't nearly the same team, and neither are the Patriots.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I think KC is a rolling and the Patriots aren't going to be capable of stopping them at Arrowhead. Our players wanted this rematch after October's game. They know that NE, in Foxboro, had almost a perfect game and still couldn't win without a last second FG.

The home playoff curse is done. It's just a wild house now where Brady already has PTSD... BB's defensive scheme has always been reliant on being able to take away your best option, but with KC, there's so many stellar options that it may work to a fault in some ways, as evidenced by the three 40+ point outputs from KC on NE.

The defense has some lightning in the bottle so to speak, and they are gelling. I've got KC in a game that they will dominate in most if not all phases.

Chiefs 38
Patriots 20

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

7-1 and 8-0 on the road last two years. So that statement is BS, as expected.

They were 3-5 on the road this season, what are you talking about?:shake:

[Hoover]

I don't know what the score will be, but when I close my eyes all I can see is the Chiefs playing the Saints in Atlanta.

[warrior]

Chiefs 38

Cheaters 23

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

Chiefs 34
Whiners 22

[RaidersOftheCellar]

7-1 and 8-0 on the road last two years. So that statement is BS, as expected.

Guess what—he’s older. And it’s shown. Let’s also not forget his weapons are the weakest he’s possibly ever had, and Gronk is essentially a lineman now.

[gold_and_red]

In the biting cold it is not just about Mahomes' ability to throw the football but also about the whole offense being in sync. I don't expect the offense to get to 30, just a hunch. While Pats road struggles have been real they have been playing well of late only letting up 17 at Pittsburgh to a powerful offense in a playoff type game. I expect them to be better against Mahomes than last time.
It will be a close game with the score being in the low 20s, picking KC to win by a FG but would be nervous as hell if Brady has the ball with a few minutes to play.
It will come down to KC's D against Brady.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Not sure why playing in 10-15 degrees lower than last week is expected to hamper them so much. It’s going to be roughly the same temp as last year in Denver.

[Rausch]

I don't think it's close.

31-17...

[LongSufferingToady]

It's going to be 1 degree at game time. So I don't expect a big passing game from either side. This is going to be one of those "grind it out" ball games.

Chiefs 9, NE 3

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

It's going to be 1 degree at game time. So I don't expect a big passing game from either side. This is going to be one of those "grind it out" ball games.

Chiefs 9, NE 3

Chiefs 9?? We haven’t scored less then 25 all season

[Rausch]

Chiefs 9?? We haven’t scored less then 25 all season

TRT is a life changer for some people...

[Chiefs4TheWin]

Hoo boy. Do I even dare to dream of the impossible. Something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime.

Fuck it. Chiefs 35 - Patriots 31

Lets hit the Dance!

[Couch-Potato]

So my sister was a limo driver for a while and she once drove Tom Brady to a game he played against the Chiefs...

Here's the scoop: before games, Tom Brady likes to be driven to the top of a parking garage where he's left alone with a football for about an hour to apparently get into the right mental state for the days game.

I'm thinking we should barricade all parking garages in route, picket line the limo company that drives Tom, or start a go fund me to rent all the limos in town lololol

[hinde58]

34-24 Chiefs

[Halfcan]

Biggest game for the Chiefs in the last 25 years. How can any legit Chief's fan pick against them? I have not been impressed with the Patriots all year. They have lost to some really shitty teams. I think they are smoke and mirrors now. They will have to resort to trickery or some defensive scheme that has not been used since the 1960 Bears. This is a bad matchup for them, where the Chiefs have the edge in every facet except the Pats running game.

Chiefs 31 Cheating Patriots 24

[RaidersOftheCellar]

It's going to be 1 degree at game time. So I don't expect a big passing game from either side. This is going to be one of those "grind it out" ball games.

Chiefs 9, NE 3

Where are people getting these forecasts?

They're forecasting a low of 15.

[Lzen]

Chiefs 31
Pats 26

[Lzen]

Where are people getting these forecasts?

They're forecasting a low of 15.

The forecast changed this morning. For the first several days of this week, the Sunday forecast was to be bitterly cold. Now, it shows 18 degrees at kickoff with a 5mph wind. While that is still cold, it's not arctic, unbearable cold like was originally forecast.

[3rd&Long]

The team that adapts best to the frigid weather conditions is my take given how the teams match up so closely. Another way is to say the team with fewer turnovers will likely be moving on to the 'bowl. I like the Chiefs at home but the weather factor is an equalizer thus the non pick.

[htismaqe]

Where are people getting these forecasts?

They're forecasting a low of 15.

I use the NWS and only the NWS. They have been by far the most accurate over the last 5 years or so, for my area.

Yesterday they were forecasting 11 for the high. Today, they're forecasting 11 for the low. Once we hit 3 days out, they'll post their best forecast and you can probably count on that one being spot on.

[ChiefRocka]

38-24 Wahoos

[ROYC75]

KC 31 - 24, Only because Pats get a garbage TD at the end.

[HC_Chief]

Andy Reid's Chiefs have a habit of kicking the shit out of the patriots. I would not be surprised by a lop-sided victory in this one. KC 45 NE 24

[LongSufferingToady]

Where are people getting these forecasts?

They're forecasting a low of 15.

AccuWeather... the Polar Vortex...

wwwdotaccuweatherdotcom/en/weather-news/sundays-afc-championship-game-between-chiefs-patriots-could-be-coldest-on-record-in-arrowhead-stadium/70007154

[Randallflagg]

AccuWeather... the Polar Vortex...

wwwdotaccuweatherdotcom/en/weather-news/sundays-afc-championship-game-between-chiefs-patriots-could-be-coldest-on-record-in-arrowhead-stadium/70007154




Damned El Nino....... :bang:

[Megatron96]

Chiefs 42-24. Based on history, I think the Chiefs get out to a fast start and this time they pile it on until mid-way through the fourth.

[d12115415]

You guys are so cute thinking the Patriots are actually going to lose by more than a TD. Do you all think Tom and Bill are going to wake up different people or something the day of? Do you see who they've had this year? Pretty much been just the 2 of them, toss in White, Hightower and sometimes Edelman. Yet, here they are off to their 8th straight AFC title game. :hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

PLEASE keep underestimating him. Maybe Mahomes will buy into it too.

[d12115415]

And yeah, not to mention the weather. Brady has played through it all and can easily tune it out. Chiefs are going to learn really quickly that it fng hurts to catch a ball in these conditions...that it fng hurts to fall to the frozen ground...You guys are just not going to be able to handle it. Sorry. Pats are off to yet another SB.

[FanOfRED]

And yeah, not to mention the weather. Brady has played through it all and can easily tune it out. Chiefs are going to learn really quickly that it fng hurts to catch a ball in these conditions...that it fng hurts to fall to the frozen ground...You guys are just not going to be able to handle it. Sorry. Pats are off to yet another SB.

You are 100% correct. Brady and Belcher know how to handle handle balls in this weather. First they massage each other's in the locker room and deflate the ones on the field.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

And yeah, not to mention the weather. Brady has played through it all and can easily tune it out. Chiefs are going to learn really quickly that it fng hurts to catch a ball in these conditions...that it fng hurts to fall to the frozen ground...You guys are just not going to be able to handle it. Sorry. Pats are off to yet another SB.

It's going to be a hard lesson for the chiefs considering it never gets below freezing out here and Arrowhead is a brand new stadium.

Do you really think KC hasn't played in cold weather?

[Amnorix]

I honestly think we blow them out. Dead serious.

New England blew their wad against the Chargers. They are nowhere NEAR as good on the road.

Arrowhead will be an absolute madhouse on Sunday. Our guys will come out with their hair on fire. We are about to shove 40 years of frustration right down Brady's throat on an electric night. Mahomes will solidify himself as the new class of the NFL.

Chiefs 41
Pats 21


Not a single player on the field for the Chiefs will be 40 years of age, so how do they have 40 years of frustration to let out?

How many ever saw Kansas City before, say, 3 years ago? Like 10 or so I'd bet.

It's odd how fans of teams (not just Chiefs -- all teams, most fans) somehow think their players feel the same way about their team that they do. 99% of the time, that isn't the case at all.

The amount of bitching I hear from Pats fans about players who leave for the money when they have it SO GOOD with the Pats/Brady/Belichick is comical. They're playing for a fucking paycheck -- and would YOU seriously turn down an extra $X million? Why? You're from fucking Alabama or Florida or Texas or California and you don't give a crap about Boston. JFC people.

Same for you, here. Just sayin'

[Amnorix]

So my sister was a limo driver for a while and she once drove Tom Brady to a game he played against the Chiefs...

Here's the scoop: before games, Tom Brady likes to be driven to the top of a parking garage where he's left alone with a football for about an hour to apparently get into the right mental state for the days game.

I'm thinking we should barricade all parking garages in route, picket line the limo company that drives Tom, or start a go fund me to rent all the limos in town lololol

err....he arrives on the team bus from the hotel with the other players. JFC...

[ReynardMuldrake]

Pats get pantsed on the big stage, then score a couple in garbage time to keep the score respectable.

KC 44
NE 31

[Why Not?]

And yeah, not to mention the weather. Brady has played through it all and can easily tune it out. Chiefs are going to learn really quickly that it fng hurts to catch a ball in these conditions...that it fng hurts to fall to the frozen ground...You guys are just not going to be able to handle it. Sorry. Pats are off to yet another SB.

Yeah because KC in the winter is comparable to Maui, so cold weather will really shock these guys. Great point.

[Pepe Silvia]

Would like to see the Chiefs win but after last week I think the Pats win by 10. No disrespect.

[Halfcan]

Would like to see the Chiefs win but after last week I think the Pats win by 10. No disrespect.

Do you mean after the Chiefs dominated the Hottest team in the NFL- the Colts, from start to finish?

:rolleyes:

[RaidersOftheCellar]

You guys are so cute thinking the Patriots are actually going to lose by more than a TD. Do you all think Tom and Bill are going to wake up different people or something the day of? Do you see who they've had this year? Pretty much been just the 2 of them, toss in White, Hightower and sometimes Edelman. Yet, here they are off to their 8th straight AFC title game. :hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

PLEASE keep underestimating him. Maybe Mahomes will buy into it too.

Nope. Mahomes will focus like he’s facing a 25-year-old Brady. That’s why Brady is screwed.

[GermanChief]

34-24 Chiiiiiiefs!

[Megatron96]

You guys are so cute thinking the Patriots are actually going to lose by more than a TD. Do you all think Tom and Bill are going to wake up different people or something the day of? Do you see who they've had this year? Pretty much been just the 2 of them, toss in White, Hightower and sometimes Edelman. Yet, here they are off to their 8th straight AFC title game. :hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

PLEASE keep underestimating him. Maybe Mahomes will buy into it too.

Going back as far as 2014:

9/29/14
New England@KC: Pats 14, Chiefs 41

1/16/16
New England@KC: Pats 27, Chiefs 20

9/7/17
KC@New England: Chiefs 42, Pats 27

10/14/18
KC@New England: Chiefs 40, Pats 43

What stands out here? How about the Chiefs have scored at least 40 points in all but one of the four match-ups that Andy Reid has been HC for the Chiefs. In other words, Bill Belichick hans't been able to stop Andy Reid's offense from scoring 40 or more points but one time.

And here's something else to think about: the Chiefs scored 40+ points on the defensive genius Bill Belichick 3 times with Alex Smith as the signal-caller, not the phenom Patrick Mahomes. That's right, 205 yds/game, average less than a TD/game, game manager, can't-consistently-throw-a-ball more than 15 yds, Alex Smith, who somehow averaged 275/game and 2 TDs against Belichick's vaunted D, three times. That Alex Smith.

Something else to consider: while the Chiefs were terrible on defense for the year, at home they were significantly better, as in allowing only 17.4 points a game at home, produced 11 more sacks at home, almost twice as many tackles for a loss at home, more than twice as many passes defensed at home (43 vs 21), and 4 times as many INTs at home (12 vs 3).

In other words, the Chiefs D that the Pats faced in Foxborough three months ago is not the D they will be facing on Sunday. Never mind the fact that Eric Berry is 100% ready to go (didn't play in Foxborough), as is Daniel Sorenson (also DNP in Foxborough), and C. Ward didn't even play in that game and is now a starter.

And let's not forget that Mahomes came back from a 15 point deficit in the first half to take the lead from the Pats in the second half in FOXBOROUGH, and it was the defense that let him and the Chiefs down, not Mahomes.

Now, with all due respect to the Patriots and Tom Brady, who is the best QB in the NFL and probably the best QB in the history of the NFL, but it's the Patriots D that has been the issue between these two teams, and in the last six years, they have been found lacking on a consistent basis, to the tune of just under 100 points allowed in four meetings.

So, it's not a stretch by any means that the Chiefs should win this game by double digits; in fact, history tells is that it should be a Chiefs victory by double digits with Mahomes at the helm.

Peace.

[Naptown Chief]

You guys are so cute thinking the Patriots are actually going to lose by more than a TD. Do you all think Tom and Bill are going to wake up different people or something the day of? Do you see who they've had this year? Pretty much been just the 2 of them, toss in White, Hightower and sometimes Edelman. Yet, here they are off to their 8th straight AFC title game. :hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

PLEASE keep underestimating him. Maybe Mahomes will buy into it too.

I did see who they had...
Jags, Lions, Titans, Dolphins, and Steelers.

[KChiefs1]

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[Redbled]

Going back as far as 2014:

9/29/14
New England@KC: Pats 14, Chiefs 41

1/16/16
New England@KC: Pats 27, Chiefs 20

9/7/17
KC@New England: Chiefs 42, Pats 27

10/14/18
KC@New England: Chiefs 40, Pats 43

What stands out here? How about the Chiefs have scored at least 40 points in all but one of the four match-ups that Andy Reid has been HC for the Chiefs. In other words, Bill Belichick hans't been able to stop Andy Reid's offense from scoring 40 or more points but one time.

And here's something else to think about: the Chiefs scored 40+ points on the defensive genius Bill Belichick 3 times with Alex Smith as the signal-caller, not the phenom Patrick Mahomes. That's right, 205 yds/game, average less than a TD/game, game manager, can't-consistently-throw-a-ball more than 15 yds, Alex Smith, who somehow averaged 275/game and 2 TDs against Belichick's vaunted D, three times. That Alex Smith.

Something else to consider: while the Chiefs were terrible on defense for the year, at home they were significantly better, as in allowing only 17.4 points a game at home, produced 11 more sacks at home, almost twice as many tackles for a loss at home, more than twice as many passes defensed at home (43 vs 21), and 4 times as many INTs at home (12 vs 3).

In other words, the Chiefs D that the Pats faced in Foxborough three months ago is not the D they will be facing on Sunday. Never mind the fact that Eric Berry is 100% ready to go (didn't play in Foxborough), as is Daniel Sorenson (also DNP in Foxborough), and C. Ward didn't even play in that game and is now a starter.

And let's not forget that Mahomes came back from a 15 point deficit in the first half to take the lead from the Pats in the second half in FOXBOROUGH, and it was the defense that let him and the Chiefs down, not Mahomes.

Now, with all due respect to the Patriots and Tom Brady, who is the best QB in the NFL and probably the best QB in the history of the NFL, but it's the Patriots D that has been the issue between these two teams, and in the last six years, they have been found lacking on a consistent basis, to the tune of just under 100 points allowed in four meetings.

So, it's not a stretch by any means that the Chiefs should win this game by double digits; in fact, history tells is that it should be a Chiefs victory by double digits with Mahomes at the helm.

Peace.

I don’t believe Houston played either.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Everybody's feeling it; playoff Chiefs are far more intense than regular season Chiefs. We'll take the win and do so by two or more scores.

What a difference a Mahomes makes!

[Dayze]

Chiefs 31
Cheaters - 20

And the Pats dynasty will collapse once and for all.

We will be heroes to everyone in the league, since no one outside of Boston is really a Pats fan. Everyone is tired of the Pats, and this will reignite interest to an otherwise boring and stale league (before Mahomes, Mayfield, Goff etc). And remap the landscape of the AFC for the next generation once Toms old creepy ecentric ass is done for . Pats fans can revert back to Pre Brady and stop caring about “their”team , and not even really know who the players are

We won’t be able to hit Brady, because like Manning, he’s too much of a bitch to ever think about ever having any contact whatsoever. So just get pressure and he’ll throw it to avoid a hit, or my personal favorite throw it directly into the dirt.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

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“Nobody thinks we can win. Everyone thinks we suck” /Tommy #BetAgainstUs

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Best22]

Chiefs win 31-24

[Slainte]

28-24 KC

[KChiefs1]

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[Dayze]

I honestly think it’s going to not be much of a game. I think it’ll be one of those games where the chiefs are in control for nearly all of the game. Don’t think it’ll be a blowout, but I think the outcome will not be in doubt, despite what the final score may indicate

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I honestly think it’s going to not be much of a game. I think it’ll be one of those games where the chiefs are in control for nearly all of the game. Don’t think it’ll be a blowout, but I think the outcome will not be in doubt, despite what the final score may indicate

I'm going the other way. Chiefs get momentum early and keep the pedal to the floor while Chris Jones, Justin Houston, and Dee Ford feast like starved lions in Rome.

[htismaqe]

Not a single player on the field for the Chiefs will be 40 years of age, so how do they have 40 years of frustration to let out?

How many ever saw Kansas City before, say, 3 years ago? Like 10 or so I'd bet.

It's odd how fans of teams (not just Chiefs -- all teams, most fans) somehow think their players feel the same way about their team that they do. 99% of the time, that isn't the case at all.

The amount of bitching I hear from Pats fans about players who leave for the money when they have it SO GOOD with the Pats/Brady/Belichick is comical. They're playing for a fucking paycheck -- and would YOU seriously turn down an extra $X million? Why? You're from fucking Alabama or Florida or Texas or California and you don't give a crap about Boston. JFC people.

Same for you, here. Just sayin'

That's all well and good if the players aren't keenly aware of it. Listening to interviews over the last few days, the Chiefs players, TO A MAN, have all mentioned the history of the team and the frustration of it. They may not have experienced personally but they're now invested in it. Sorry.

[Imon Yourside]

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[RollChiefsRoll]

Chiefs 42
Pats 27

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That's all well and good if the players aren't keenly aware of it. Listening to interviews over the last few days, the Chiefs players, TO A MAN, have all mentioned the history of the team and the frustration of it. They may not have experienced personally but they're now invested in it. Sorry.

One thing I LOVE about Reid is his ability to get his players to buy-in. That's a crucial talent and we're lucky to have it. Despite his shortcomings, one thing Marty was good at was getting his players to understand and sympathize what it meant to look at these games from a historical and fans point of view. He was all about the team pride and being able to sell it to the players. I bring this up because I wonder if Reid hasn't started to work this angle as well?

I look forward to the day when Mahomes has matured to the point that he and the offensive coordinator can effectively run the show and let Andy focus a bit more on his HC duties on game day.

[Pablo]

Chiefs 38-21.

[Imon Yourside]

Mahomeboys 42 Wesuckcuzwesucks 17

[NWTF]

Chiefs 38
Pats 34

[pugsnotdrugs19]

KC 38, NE 23

Chiefs by 10+

[htismaqe]

One thing I LOVE about Reid is his ability to get his players to buy-in. That's a crucial talent and we're lucky to have it. Despite his shortcomings, one thing Marty was good at was getting his players to understand and sympathize what it meant to look at these games from a historical and fans point of view. He was all about the team pride and being able to sell it to the players. I bring this up because I wonder if Reid hasn't started to work this angle as well?

I look forward to the day when Mahomes has matured to the point that he and the offensive coordinator can effectively run the show and let Andy focus a bit more on his HC duties on game day.

Did you hear Clark Hunt's interview on 810 yesterday?

Say what you want about the guy - maybe it was lip service but what he said gave me goosebumps.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

38 - 24 Chiefs

[CrookedTrump]

Alot to say but who wants to read a novel so I'll try to make it short..... Everything positive said about the Chiefs is true, Mahomes is the MVP and leading a great offense, defense is much better at home, home field advantage is real at Arrowhead, they are getting healthier etc. And yes it's true that Pat's were 3-5 on the road and haven't won on road in playoffs since 2006. Also, Brady and Gronk are old and passed thier prime......all true.....

But this is also true: Brady is still the QB most would want to win one game. Gronk is still capable of a big day and is a devastating run blocker. Thier secondary is ranked among the best in the NFL, thier pass rush rankings are top 10 even though they don't get alot of sacks. Edelman is finally healthy and this is the first playoff season in 3 years both Gronk and Edelman have been in the field together. They have the best running game they've had in years. The Cheifs aren't good against the run and are even worse defending the pass against the running backs and they are not good in the red zone.

Bottom line, this is a pick em game imo. Cheifs offense depends on the big play which scares me both ways but If they don't get the big play then they are containable (keep score in the 20's)especially with a veteran defense coached by Bill Belichick. Brady is a proven patient QB who will take what you give him. Pat's have faced 9 of the top 10 defenses this year and imo Chiefs don't have the talent on the field nor the coaching proof to come up with a game plan Brady hasn't seen. Chiefs must win the line of scrimmage battle, especially up the middle without blitzing to contain the Pat's offense. Chiefs do have the talent to do this however.

I see a very close game and the Cheifs home field advantage very well could prove to be the difference as proof of the Patriots/Steelers game had the Pat's Oline having trouble with the silent count. However, if it is late and close I do trust Belichick alot more the Reid and I trust Brady more than Mahomes. Games like this is why I don't bet!

[Danguardace]

Recent history says one of the Championship games tomorrow will be a blow out.

I think it will be the Chiefs big

42 -17

[New World Order]

I'm changing my vote to Chiefs by 8+

30-20 Chiefs

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Did you hear Clark Hunt's interview on 810 yesterday?

Say what you want about the guy - maybe it was lip service but what he said gave me goosebumps.

I'm trying to find it now....

[Halfcan]

Last week: the media was saying this, "Nobody wants to play the Colts, they are the hottest team in the NFL!"

This week: "Patriots have all the experience, this is a terrible matchup for the Chiefs!"

2 Weeks from now: "Saints have the more complete team, Chiefs don't match up well at all."

2 Weeks and 1 Day: "Chiefs benefitted from beating teams that did not play their best. They won't be so lucky next year defending their Championship title."

Training Camp Predictions- Chiefs 8-8- the Chargers take the division, Chargers are just Loaded with talent and Rivers is a Gamer!"

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Last week: the media was saying this, "Nobody wants to play the Colts, they are the hottest team in the NFL!"

This week: "Patriots have all the experience, this is a terrible matchup for the Chiefs!"

2 Weeks from now: "Saints have the more complete team, Chiefs don't match up well at all."

2 Weeks and 1 Day: "Chiefs benefitted from beating teams that did not play their best. They won't be so lucky next year defending their Championship title."

Training Camp Predictions- Chiefs 8-8- the Chargers take the division, Chargers are just Loaded with talent and Rivers is a Gamer!"

LMAO

Yep.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Did you hear Clark Hunt's interview on 810 yesterday?

Say what you want about the guy - maybe it was lip service but what he said gave me goosebumps.

Was it Petro or Keitzbago'dicks?

[htismaqe]

Was it Petro or Keitzbago'dicks?

Border Patrol.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Border Patrol.


Thanks! Yeah, I found it and am listening to it now.

[htismaqe]

Guys, who else feels like they could run through a wall right now?

I spent about 2 hours moving snow this morning in -12 wind chills.

Tomorrow is NOT going to be bitter cold. It's going to be LOUD!

Last week I was nervous. This week, I wanna put my forehead through the drywall in the hallway. ROFL

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Guys, who else feels like they could run through a wall right now?

I spent about 2 hours moving snow this morning in -12 wind chills.

Tomorrow is NOT going to be bitter cold. It's going to be LOUD!

Last week I was nervous. This week, I wanna put my forehead through the drywall in the hallway. ROFL

I feel ya'. As each day has passed, my confidence level has risen higher and higher, and I've come to grips with the reality that Mahomes is just a different animal leading this team.
I can sum it up fairly simply:

In the past, it was "no way" could the Chiefs win a AFCCG, go to a Bowl, and win it all.

Now, it's "why not"? This team is as good as any team in this league, and can go toe to toe, score for score with either high-caliber offenses, top-ranking defenses, or both. And even if we weren't to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl THIS year, you KNOW we'd be back, and get there sooner rather than later.

I expected a wild card birth and a fight to win it before this season started. Anything beyond that is pure icing on a brilliantly-made cake.

[htismaqe]

I feel ya'. As each day has passed, my confidence level has risen higher and higher, and I've come to grips with the reality that Mahomes is just a different animal leading this team.
I can sum it up fairly simply:

In the past, it was "no way" could the Chiefs win a AFCCG, go to a Bowl, and win it all.

Now, it's "why not"? This team is as good as any team in this league, and can go toe to toe, score for score with either high-caliber offenses, top-ranking defenses, or both. And even if we weren't to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl THIS year, you KNOW we'd be back, and get there sooner rather than later.

I expected a wild card birth and a fight to win it before this season started. Anything beyond that is pure icing on a brilliantly-made cake.

Almost exactly how I feel.

I've always wanted a QB we could call "ours". Now we have THE QB, and he's ours. How freaking glorious is that?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Did you hear Clark Hunt's interview on 810 yesterday?

Say what you want about the guy - maybe it was lip service but what he said gave me goosebumps.

I think the issues with Clark that people just can't figure out have a lot to do with how he presents himself. We hear that he is "intense and passionate", but that's not exactly how he comes off. He certainly knows what to say, but sometimes his actions don't follow suit.
I believe his inexperience in the beginning had a lot to do with how people perceive him to this day. And I believe that if the Chiefs were the ONLY sports interest he had in life, some of that floundering in the beginning could have been avoided. Three coaches and three GM's later, it seems that he has finally begun to get a better grip on the league than he had coming in. I also believe( to his credit )that he has chosen to blaze a somewhat different path than his father in regards to the philosophy of the team, and to what will be given priority under his tenure.

The only thing that bothers me, again, is that unlike most owners in this league, the Chiefs aren't the only pro sports endeavor in his life. And then, you've got owners in whom their NFL team is ALL THEY DO. But sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't so who knows? Also, I really don't like the idea of him being involved in personnel contract disputes or personnel in general. That's what guys who have spent their whole adult lives evaluating talent and negotiating contracts are hired for, right? Being a GM is a tricky business and it takes a LONG time working and studying under masters of the craft before one is ready to truly sit in that chair. And once you get there, and someone hires you, that employer needs to trust that you and the head coach have a vision, and are working towards attaining it, bumps in the road and all.
What I DO know is that he seems to be improving in his role as owner and representative as time goes on, and that's really all you can ask for.


Almost exactly how I feel.

I've always wanted a QB we could call "ours". Now we have THE QB, and he's ours. How freaking glorious is that?

It is unbelievably fantastic and downright otherworldly. Just having this kid is a MAJOR coup and gives us the INSTANT ability to thumb our noses at 80% of this league. LMAO

[htismaqe]

A good portion of NFL owners have SEVERAL other business ventures, including other minor and major league sports teams.

We only know the stuff about Clark because he's our owner. Trust me, he's just one of many.

Heck, the late Paul Allen owned the Seahawks and the Trailblazers. The Glazer family owns the Buccaneers and Manchester United.

Stan Kroenke owns the Rams, the Nuggets, the Avalanche, AND Arsenal.

[tredadda]

7-1 and 8-0 on the road last two years. So that statement is BS, as expected.

And 3-5 this year on the road with two of those wins against teams that are drafting in the Top 10.

[Pablo]

This is gonna be over early folks. I really expect to suck the soul out of these child-kissing scumbags in the first quarter. Let Brady try to make a valiant comeback with that fucking noodle arm of his.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

A good portion of NFL owners have SEVERAL other business ventures, including other minor and major league sports teams.

We only know the stuff about Clark because he's our owner. Trust me, he's just one of many.

Heck, the late Paul Allen owned the Seahawks and the Trailblazers. The Glazer family owns the Buccaneers and Manchester United.

Stan Kroenke owns the Rams, the Nuggets, the Avalanche, AND Arsenal.

( sung to the tune of "three of these things" )

Two of these things are quite successful,
two of these things are bags of shit... :)

So yeah...I'm gonna' go ahead and stand by my take on that front, please.

This is gonna be over early folks. I really expect to suck the soul out of these child-kissing scumbags in the first quarter. Let Brady try to make a valiant comeback with that fucking noodle arm of his.

This. Kick 'em in the pussy right off the bat then pull your pants down and shit on their faces while they roll on the ground in pain.

[Naptown Chief]

Last week: the media was saying this, "Nobody wants to play the Colts, they are the hottest team in the NFL!"

This week: "Patriots have all the experience, this is a terrible matchup for the Chiefs!"

2 Weeks from now: "Saints have the more complete team, Chiefs don't match up well at all."

2 Weeks and 1 Day: "Chiefs benefitted from beating teams that did not play their best. They won't be so lucky next year defending their Championship title."

Training Camp Predictions- Chiefs 8-8- the Chargers take the division, Chargers are just Loaded with talent and Rivers is a Gamer!"

Nailed it.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Not a single player on the field for the Chiefs will be 40 years of age, so how do they have 40 years of frustration to let out?

How many ever saw Kansas City before, say, 3 years ago? Like 10 or so I'd bet.

It's odd how fans of teams (not just Chiefs -- all teams, most fans) somehow think their players feel the same way about their team that they do. 99% of the time, that isn't the case at all.

The amount of bitching I hear from Pats fans about players who leave for the money when they have it SO GOOD with the Pats/Brady/Belichick is comical. They're playing for a ****ing paycheck -- and would YOU seriously turn down an extra $X million? Why? You're from ****ing Alabama or Florida or Texas or California and you don't give a crap about Boston. JFC people.


Same for you, here. Just sayin'




I think it's different in this context: And by no means am I saying this is the only correct answer.

You walk into the Chiefs franchise and see the incredible success they had as AFL team. You meet Lenny, you meet Buck Buchanan, Willie Lanier, Fred Arbanas, Curly Culp, Emmitt Thomas. That a wing of HOF'ers. Those guys gave legitimacy to the entire AFL. And from the AFL days, the Pats weren't much of a winning franchise.

The Pats grew their winning history from 85 to the present. The Chiefs? They sowed nothing but disappointment after 1971. Regular season? Sure, great records. And playoff futility.

The players know how much the last game meant for the fans and the city. That doesn't mean it was their sole motivator. But these players acknowledge the players from the glory years, and the fans who have waited for (in the words of William Wallace) "One chance, JUST one chance" to bring this franchise to glory again.

[CrookedTrump]

Last week: the media was saying this, "Nobody wants to play the Colts, they are the hottest team in the NFL!"

This week: "Patriots have all the experience, this is a terrible matchup for the Chiefs!"

2 Weeks from now: "Saints have the more complete team, Chiefs don't match up well at all."

2 Weeks and 1 Day: "Chiefs benefitted from beating teams that did not play their best. They won't be so lucky next year defending their Championship title."

Training Camp Predictions- Chiefs 8-8- the Chargers take the division, Chargers are just Loaded with talent and Rivers is a Gamer!"

I have listened to both Chiefs and Pats sports radio all week and some national radio along with a bunch if the crappy fs1 and ESPN shows. Not once have I heard "Pat's have all the experience , this is a terrbile matchup for the Cheifs". Virtually everyone is picking the Chiefs for several different reasons. Infact the only time I've seen anyone pick the Pat's was in this thread with the picture if the picks from an ESPN show. Even majority of picks on Pats sports radio are for the Chiefs. I'm assuming Skip Bayless will pick the Pats.

This is not a bad matchup for the Chiefs it's a bad matchup for the Pats, especially since it's in Arrowhead. Remember this though, 2015 was the Pat's last loss in afccg in the road against what many consider a top 10 all time defense in Denver and Pats put up basically 20 points (18 in reality as both extra points were missed). That was also a very loud environment so I use that as the Pat's threshold. If they scored 20 that day vs that D then they could and should get 30 tomorrow. Chiefs need to score in the 30s to win IMO.....I know that sounds easy the way they played this year, but it won't be!.......

[ChiTown]

Chiefs 34

Has Been’s 27

[FlaChief58]

I think it'll be something like 34-28 Chiefs

[Bump]

The defense is fired up and has been kicking ass. As long as the refs don't throw flags 15 times at us and zero for them again, we're going to beat them down.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Chiefs 38

Kid-Kissers 20

[htismaqe]

I have listened to both Chiefs and Pats sports radio all week and some national radio along with a bunch if the crappy fs1 and ESPN shows. Not once have I heard "Pat's have all the experience , this is a terrbile matchup for the Cheifs". Virtually everyone is picking the Chiefs for several different reasons. Infact the only time I've seen anyone pick the Pat's was in this thread with the picture if the picks from an ESPN show. Even majority of picks on Pats sports radio are for the Chiefs. I'm assuming Skip Bayless will pick the Pats.

This is not a bad matchup for the Chiefs it's a bad matchup for the Pats, especially since it's in Arrowhead. Remember this though, 2015 was the Pat's last loss in afccg in the road against what many consider a top 10 all time defense in Denver and Pats put up basically 20 points (18 in reality as both extra points were missed). That was also a very loud environment so I use that as the Pat's threshold. If they scored 20 that day vs that D then they could and should get 30 tomorrow. Chiefs need to score in the 30s to win IMO.....I know that sounds easy the way they played this year, but it won't be!.......

I'll be shocked if the Pats score 30 tomorrow. Justin Houston is playing in another gear, haven gotten almost 70% of his season total in sacks after December 1st. Chris Jones pushed Quentin Nelson around last week and the secondary has improved with the new blood.

The Chiefs haven't given up more than 30 points at home since the 2015 season and this season, they only gave up more than 20 points in 4 of their 8 home games. The highest they gave up was 29 to the Chargers, so if the Patriots score 30, it will be the highest opposing score the Chiefs gave up all season.

Your only hope is to try and limit the Chiefs to like 24-28 points and beat them like the Chargers did. Good luck with that!

[KChiefsQT]

31-23 CHIEFS

[CupidStunt]

Last week: the media was saying this, "Nobody wants to play the Colts, they are the hottest team in the NFL!"

This week: "Patriots have all the experience, this is a terrible matchup for the Chiefs!"
blahblahblah

Guys, can you stop with the woe-is-me attitude? It's fucking embarrassing and it's not even accurate.

https://nflpickwatch.com/?limit=250&page=1

74% of "experts"/talking-heads/etc picked us to win. We will be favored to win the AFC West next year. And most years after that for the next 10-15 years while Mahomes is the QB.

This isn't your daddy's Chiefs. We no longer choke at home to inferior teams like the Colts. We don't go entire halves scoring 0 points. We don't need smoke and mirrors to put up points. We don't have the worst QB on the field. And the media and general public knows this. Some of you must live in a weird little bubble. I don't watch any sports TV outside of NFL Network, but the content on there and places like /r/nfl and Twitter are in general very favorable to the Chiefs. People absolutely love Mahomes, they realize how great he is, they all want to watch KC play and we get a ton of respect. This "poor little small market no one likes us" routine is weak as shit.

[Imon Yourside]

Last week: the media was saying this, "Nobody wants to play the Colts, they are the hottest team in the NFL!"

This week: "Patriots have all the experience, this is a terrible matchup for the Chiefs!"

2 Weeks from now: "Saints have the more complete team, Chiefs don't match up well at all."

2 Weeks and 1 Day: "Chiefs benefitted from beating teams that did not play their best. They won't be so lucky next year defending their Championship title."

Training Camp Predictions- Chiefs 8-8- the Chargers take the division, Chargers are just Loaded with talent and Rivers is a Gamer!"

LMAO cuz it's true :) can't wait to take what's rightfully ours!

[jaa1025]

Guys, can you stop with the woe-is-me attitude? It's ****ing embarrassing and it's not even accurate.

https://nflpickwatch.com/?limit=250&page=1

74% of "experts"/talking-heads/etc picked us to win. We will be favored to win the AFC West next year. And most years after that for the next 10-15 years while Mahomes is the QB.

This isn't your daddy's Chiefs. We no longer choke at home to inferior teams like the Colts. We don't go entire halves scoring 0 points. We don't need smoke and mirrors to put up points. We don't have the worst QB on the field. And the media and general public knows this. Some of you must live in a weird little bubble. I don't watch any sports TV outside of NFL Network, but the content on there and places like /r/nfl and Twitter are in general very favorable to the Chiefs. People absolutely love Mahomes, they realize how great he is, they all want to watch KC play and we get a ton of respect. This "poor little small market no one likes us" routine is weak as shit.

It doesn't matter if KC wins the SB this year the Chargers will be the AFW favorite again according to the NFL media.

[Chiefs Moon]

Chiefs 31
Pats 24

[Al Bundy]

Chiefs 35
Patriots 31

[C3HIEF3S]

31-28 Chiefs

[gonefishin53]

The Chiefs defense is playing the best they've played all season, held a good Colt's offense to just 6 points, and Berry will play today. The Chief's have the top scoring offense in the league, scored 40 points at Patriots, and scored 4 rushing TDs and 31 points with a balanced attack that dominated time of possession against the Colts defense last week. Chiefs by double digits.

[Hannah Barbarian]

Pats 35-31

Close. I wasn't expecting OT though, could've gone both ways.
Arrowhead was impressive; not Mile High Stadium difficult, but still very loud.