Thoughts on the AFCCG

[Amnorix]

My unsolicited (and no doubt unwanted) thoughts on an amazing AFCCG

1. First, amazing game. Put aside the rooting interest and the result, and that was one hell of a crazy, entertaining football game, with multiple lead changes and more drama than any damn reality show has to fake create. The game earned the highest TV ratings of any show since last year's Super Bowl, and it delivered. A Patriots beat guy tweeted that the game was "bananapants" with about four minutes left to play, which was before like two touchdowns, a FG, a couple of replay reviews, and an overtime!

2. As Chiefs fans, it looks to me like you have some great years ahead of you to look forward to. Mahomes is obviously the real deal, though still raw, and you have him on an underpaid contract for two more years I understand. Huge competitive advantage. Hill and Kelce are rare talents. Your OLine could be better, though, and your defense. Well, I don't need to say much there.

3. If it helps, think of it this way -- it took the GOAT coach and GOAT QB overtime to beat you even though (1) the Patriots had few penalties, and the team overall played very disciplined all game, (2) the Chiefs defense just sucks right now, (3) Patriots somehow held the Chiefs scoreless in the first half, (4) the Pats kept Hill/Kelce to under 100 yards total, (5) the Chiefs running game was shut down, and (6) the Patriots successfully played "keep away" from the Chiefs offense for most of the game, running about 2 plays on offense for every 1 the Chiefs had. I mean, it's ridiculous how much effort that took. IMHO, the fact that the Patriots KNEW the Chiefs had a hell of a team is proven by Brady's over the top joyous reaction to winning. He's the ultimate "been there, done that" guy and he still acted like a rookie who had won the championship itself when they won.

4. IMHO Belichick and the Patriots coaches won this game far more than any individual player on the Patriots side. I thought Brady was unexceptional most of the game -- but the Patriots game plan was outstanding, on all sides of the ball. Keep away on offense by pounding the ball relentlessly and chewing up clock. Demoralizing/tiring the Chiefs defense. Not allowing the Chiefs offense to get into a rhythm. Good pass rush which kept Mahomes in the pocket, generated pressure, but didn't allow Mahomes to scramble where he is so ridiculously dangerous. It was honestly a thing of beauty as a game plan, in my opinion. It's a great demonstration of why Belichick is the GOAT coach.

5. The Chiefs OLine didn't look good at all. The Patriots completely shut down the run, and were able to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's not surprising for the Patriots OLine, which is excellent, but for the Chiefs OLine to be that poor is troubling. Not sure what is up there as I haven't seen many Chiefs games, but if that's a trend you should be concerned. Mahomes style of play is higher risk than you'd like, and keeping him safe should be a high priority.

6. Mahomes is obviously going to be a great one, if he isn't already, but he's still young. He failed to recognize a number of things the Patriots had going on, such as the McCourty blitz. When a safety who is usually playing deep is cheating near the line, that's a signal. He also needs to work his reads/progressions faster. But he's a freaking first year QB. His 50 TDs were "inflated" due to his ridiculous support at the skill positions, but that crap doesn't happen by accident, and we all know most QBs would not have gotten anywhere near 50 TDs even with that talent. Hell, Mahomes' arm and Hill's speed are a match made in heaven for you guys, and a combo that could power you to great heights.

7. I stayed silent during the week building up to the game, but I never did understand how so many Chiefs fans thought they would completely blow the Patriots off the field. I know their year has been one of ups and downs, but if you've watched the NFL over the last two decades, you should've known the Patriots weren't going to come in and roll over for you guys the way the limp-ass, young, inexperienced Colts did. Hell, if it wasn't for the "Miracle in Miami" that game would've been in Foxboro instead of Arrowhead. A tip for the future -- learned the hard way -- NEVER underestimate your opponent. If the 2007 Patriots could lose to the freaking 9-7 Giants, then "any given Sunday" is an absolute reality, and not just a pithy phrase.

8. I have to end with a comment on the many Cheatriots comments. They are sad. When the Patriots keep winning just as relentlessly after these ridiculous scandals as before, what does that tell you about whether or not these scandals made any sense at all? Apparently some want to believe the Patriots just have other ways of cheating to keep on winning, or that they can blame the weak AFC East. Neither makes any sense. The fact is you lost to the greatest dynasty in NFL history, the GOAT coach and GOAT QB, and while they might be in decline, they certainly ain't dead yet, as they proved yet again.

Good luck next year. May we meet again in the AFCCG, with an equally entertaining game and the same result!! :D

[Hammock Parties]

It's nice your princess QB gets brushed by a hand and you get flags out of it.

Fuck off.

[Prison Bitch]

Nobody is going to read this fyi

[O.city]

Yeah.

Fuck you.

We were 6 inches away from Tom and Bill blowing a 14-0 half time lead and Brady throwing 3 picks.

Congrats though.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

If it's "no doubt unwanted," why are you typing a novel?

[Amnorix]

It's nice your princess QB gets brushed by a hand and you get flags out of it.

Fuck off.


What's nice is that the Patriots are going to their fifth AFCCG and fourth Super Bowl since you declared him dead at the start of the 2014 season. ROFL

[BigRedChief]

Nice. Okay, I’ll handshake and tip of the cap to you.

You left out.......You were a lined up in the neutral zone away from the dynasty is over story line. Brady threw 3 interceptions, bills defense let them score 31 point in a half etc.



But, since it’s CP........Obligatory......Fuck Off!

[Amnorix]

If it's "no doubt unwanted," why are you typing a novel?

I don't think it's more unwanted for being long. :D

[The Franchise]

Don’t you have a Patriots board to look at Tom making out with his son to be at?

[Hammock Parties]

What's nice is that the Patriots are going to their fifth AFCCG and fourth Super Bowl since you declared him dead at the start of the 2014 season. ROFL

Brady has a 63 QB rating Sunday night if Dee Ford lines up correctly.

[Amnorix]

Brady has a 63 QB rating Sunday night if Dee Ford lines up correctly.


And five Super Bowl rings. Let's face it, he's the GOAT no matter what he does from here on out. If he goes off the proverbial cliff, then "he should've hung 'em up earlier."

[MAG]

Tom Brady threw a game ending pick, his 3rd of the day, to the worst defense in the league. Saved by an all time blunder by Dee Ford. Tom Brady is 3-0 in OT playoff games. His opponent hasn't gotten the ball once in those games. The Golden Boy's luck knows no bounds.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Go buttchug a quart of Freddie Mercury's blood.

[mschiefs1984]

I agree with #4

Andy Reid supposes to be an offensive genius has a franchise QB and puts up 0 points in the 1st half. That's a joke. Got outcoached so much it wasn't funny.

[DaFace]

And five Super Bowl rings. Let's face it, he's the GOAT no matter what he does from here on out. If he goes off the proverbial cliff, then "he should've hung 'em up earlier."Your team has ruined the NFL for a generation of fans. Congrats.

[O.city]

I agree with #4

Andy Reid supposes to be an offensive genius has a franchise QB and puts up 0 points in the 1st half. That's a joke. Got outcoached so much it wasn't funny.

He put up 31 in the 2nd half.

[Just Passin' By]

Tom Brady threw a game ending pick, his 3rd of the day, to the worst defense in the league. Saved by an all time blunder by Dee Ford. Tom Brady is 3-0 in OT playoff games. His opponent hasn't gotten the ball once in those games. The Golden Boy's luck knows no bounds.

You guys really should be better than posting that sort of bullshit. The drive before featured the Patriots recovering a Chiefs fumble, only to have that be negated by a holding call that had nothing to do with the play. A huge gain for the Chiefs was the result of a blatantly illegal pick play where contact was made well past the one yard limit. Eric Berry was dry humping Gronk down the field on play after play, and that wasn't getting called.

So your whining about an obviously valid call is ridiculous.

[Clyde Frog]

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This is the only thing of pedo tom that should be on the TV these next 2 weeks.

[Best22]

Agree.

Except we’re going to sweep you next year, if you’re lucky enough to make the playoffs

[TwistedChief]

I don’t agree with the Cheatriots hyperfocus but you guys did cheat. In a real way. Not like tampering. Like steroid users in baseball, you’ll never overcome that stigma and it’s fair.

I was one of the fans who thought this was our game and our year. Brady played outstanding down the stretch with a hat tip to our defense which was a joke. You win that one, but Chiefs fans being excited and optimistic doesn’t mean anything. We just want to win. And are desperate.

I agree with your take on the game.

And I’ll take any even up bets that we get farther than the Patriots next season.

Thanks for waiting 48hrs to post this. You’re not trolling but you still have a fanbase that’s vile and deserves none of this. You’re okay.

[cdcox]

And five Super Bowl rings. Let's face it, he's the GOAT no matter what he does from here on out. If he goes off the proverbial cliff, then "he should've hung 'em up earlier."

More like GBPM2 :D

[Chiefspants]

You guys really should be better than posting that sort of bullshit. The drive before featured the Patriots recovering a Chiefs fumble, only to have that be negated by a holding call that had nothing to do with the play. A huge gain for the Chiefs was the result of a blatantly illegal pick play where contact was made well past the one yard limit. Eric Berry was dry humping Gronk down the field on play after play, and that wasn't getting called.

So your whining about an obviously valid call is ridiculous.

Honestly - we just got plain beat.

We had Brady at 3rd and long 3 times on that final drive.

This is on Sutton, Reid and Veach. Let's hope the latter 2 are ready to fix the problem that kept us from a title.

[Straight, No Chaser]

Go buttchug a quart of Freddie Mercury's blood.

:eek:

Congrats on winning the coin toss.

[TLO]

Shove a giant cactus doused in antifreeze into both of your eyes and then shove it up your ass.

[mschiefs1984]

He put up 31 in the 2nd half.

He did but it wasn't enough

[Prison Bitch]

Brady has a 63 QB rating Sunday night if Dee Ford lines up correctly.

You idiots couldn’t help indulging this turd poster


He played you like a fiddle, lol!

[dlphg9]

Can we make him cry again by changing his name to asterisks?

[Denver fan]

And five Super Bowl rings. Let's face it, he's the GOAT no matter what he does from here on out. If he goes off the proverbial cliff, then "he should've hung 'em up earlier."

Brady has a 63 QB rating Sunday night if Dee Ford lines up correctly.

I've heard Ford's break down, but I thought they were talking about trucks!

[HemiEd]

Nobody is going to read this fyi

I read it all and he makes some good points. He is respected member of this board and deserves the respect to be read.


Bottom line, that all being said, Bellichick out coached Andy's staff.

End of story. The Chiefs players themselves compensated for most of the short comings, but not quite enough.

**** the Patriots and Tom ****ing Brady!

Enjoy this, because it is over after this year, you are fucking done.

[carcosa]

My unsolicited (and no doubt unwanted) thoughts on an amazing AFCCG

1. First, amazing game. Put aside the rooting interest and the result, and that was one hell of a crazy, entertaining football game, with multiple lead changes and more drama than any damn reality show has to fake create. The game earned the highest TV ratings of any show since last year's Super Bowl, and it delivered. A Patriots beat guy tweeted that the game was "bananapants" with about four minutes left to play, which was before like two touchdowns, a FG, a couple of replay reviews, and an overtime!

2. As Chiefs fans, it looks to me like you have some great years ahead of you to look forward to. Mahomes is obviously the real deal, though still raw, and you have him on an underpaid contract for two more years I understand. Huge competitive advantage. Hill and Kelce are rare talents. Your OLine could be better, though, and your defense. Well, I don't need to say much there.

3. If it helps, think of it this way -- it took the GOAT coach and GOAT QB overtime to beat you even though (1) the Patriots had few penalties, and the team overall played very disciplined all game, (2) the Chiefs defense just sucks right now, (3) Patriots somehow held the Chiefs scoreless in the first half, (4) the Pats kept Hill/Kelce to under 100 yards total, (5) the Chiefs running game was shut down, and (6) the Patriots successfully played "keep away" from the Chiefs offense for most of the game, running about 2 plays on offense for every 1 the Chiefs had. I mean, it's ridiculous how much effort that took. IMHO, the fact that the Patriots KNEW the Chiefs had a hell of a team is proven by Brady's over the top joyous reaction to winning. He's the ultimate "been there, done that" guy and he still acted like a rookie who had won the championship itself when they won.

4. IMHO Belichick and the Patriots coaches won this game far more than any individual player on the Patriots side. I thought Brady was unexceptional most of the game -- but the Patriots game plan was outstanding, on all sides of the ball. Keep away on offense by pounding the ball relentlessly and chewing up clock. Demoralizing/tiring the Chiefs defense. Not allowing the Chiefs offense to get into a rhythm. Good pass rush which kept Mahomes in the pocket, generated pressure, but didn't allow Mahomes to scramble where he is so ridiculously dangerous. It was honestly a thing of beauty as a game plan, in my opinion. It's a great demonstration of why Belichick is the GOAT coach.

5. The Chiefs OLine didn't look good at all. The Patriots completely shut down the run, and were able to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's not surprising for the Patriots OLine, which is excellent, but for the Chiefs OLine to be that poor is troubling. Not sure what is up there as I haven't seen many Chiefs games, but if that's a trend you should be concerned. Mahomes style of play is higher risk than you'd like, and keeping him safe should be a high priority.

6. Mahomes is obviously going to be a great one, if he isn't already, but he's still young. He failed to recognize a number of things the Patriots had going on, such as the McCourty blitz. When a safety who is usually playing deep is cheating near the line, that's a signal. He also needs to work his reads/progressions faster. But he's a freaking first year QB. His 50 TDs were "inflated" due to his ridiculous support at the skill positions, but that crap doesn't happen by accident, and we all know most QBs would not have gotten anywhere near 50 TDs even with that talent. Hell, Mahomes' arm and Hill's speed are a match made in heaven for you guys, and a combo that could power you to great heights.

7. I stayed silent during the week building up to the game, but I never did understand how so many Chiefs fans thought they would completely blow the Patriots off the field. I know their year has been one of ups and downs, but if you've watched the NFL over the last two decades, you should've known the Patriots weren't going to come in and roll over for you guys the way the limp-ass, young, inexperienced Colts did. Hell, if it wasn't for the "Miracle in Miami" that game would've been in Foxboro instead of Arrowhead. A tip for the future -- learned the hard way -- NEVER underestimate your opponent. If the 2007 Patriots could lose to the freaking 9-7 Giants, then "any given Sunday" is an absolute reality, and not just a pithy phrase.

8. I have to end with a comment on the many Cheatriots comments. They are sad. When the Patriots keep winning just as relentlessly after these ridiculous scandals as before, what does that tell you about whether or not these scandals made any sense at all? Apparently some want to believe the Patriots just have other ways of cheating to keep on winning, or that they can blame the weak AFC East. Neither makes any sense. The fact is you lost to the greatest dynasty in NFL history, the GOAT coach and GOAT QB, and while they might be in decline, they certainly ain't dead yet, as they proved yet again.

Good luck next year. May we meet again in the AFCCG, with an equally entertaining game and the same result!! :D

Go fuck yourself

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Patriots fans are the most arrogant pussies on Earth. They LUCKED into a great QB and you can't say they didn't by taking the child molester in the 5th round. Their days are going to be over soon and they will suck shit for the next 50 years and all of the NFL fandom will rejoice. And no i'm not wasting my time reading the OP. Don't care!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I read it all and he makes some good points. He is respected member of this board and deserves the respect to be read.


Bottom line, that all being said, Bellichick out coached Andy's staff.

End of story. The Chiefs players themselves compensated for most of the short comings, but not quite enough.

Fuck the Patriots and Tom fucking Brady!

Fuck off. Dee Ford cost us a SB on one fucking stupid play. Mahomes outplayed Brady and they were given another SB.

[underEJ]

You guys really should be better than posting that sort of bullshit. The drive before featured the Patriots recovering a Chiefs fumble, only to have that be negated by a holding call that had nothing to do with the play. A huge gain for the Chiefs was the result of a blatantly illegal pick play where contact was made well past the one yard limit. Eric Berry was dry humping Gronk down the field on play after play, and that wasn't getting called.

So your whining about an obviously valid call is ridiculous.

That didn't sound like whining about a call to me at all. They called it an all time blunder by Ford (time will tell if it lives with Chris Webber's time out and other fun championship gaffes.) Sounds right to me. Nothing about it being a bad call.

[Fish]

Your mom sure liked it!

[Angry fan]

Your team has ruined the NFL for a generation of fans. Congrats.

It's certainly ruined the expectations for all fan bases. Now every fan base wants to be the next dynasty dominating for the next 20 seasons. That shit is never going to happen again. What the Patriots have is a perfect storm.

[ping2000]

Never understood why the fuck you post here and not in the Pat's forum with the other massholes.

[2112]

The Patriots very rarely beat themselves. And Belichick just keeps replacing guys year in and year out, and no matter who he puts in there they’re successful. Been the best coach in the league. Pretty remarkable what he’s done in the era of the salary cap. All the credit doesn’t go to Brady. Belichick put him in a position to succeed. To beat them you have to play smart. Dee Ford cost the Chiefs the game, it’s over if he’s not off side.

[HemiEd]

**** off. Dee Ford cost us a SB on one ****ing stupid play. Mahomes outplayed Brady and they were given another SB.

You fuck off! How about the fucking roughing call.

It was not one or two plays, many mistakes were made before that play.

But yeah, it sucked ass.

[Amnorix]

https://twitter.com/mikemedhurst/status/1087797403254706182?s=21


I saw someone on here saying the LT was illegally far off the LOS on the Ford offsides play. From this angle you can see that Trent Brown’s helmet is at the center’s hip so its legal. Absurd how big Brown is, which screws up your perspective a bit.

[lewdog]

Mods, do God's work.

Put this douche in the red and keep him there. Maybe even Miserable User this prick.

[MahiMike]

Brady and Billichick have made a deal with the devil. No two people have ever been this lucky in life.

They're great at what they do but come on! From the tuck rule to the stupid call by the Seahawks to throwing picks that are negated to winning coin tosses. Not to mention hundreds of calls that somehow always go their way.

Gronk is NOT the best TE in history. He's just the biggest one with hands the size of snow shovels.

Brady is NOT the GOAT. He's the GSQBOAT. Greatest System QB of all time. Just like Mahomes got lucky to have Andy, he's benefited from Belichick.

Belichick IS the GOAT coach. That's undeniable.

But still damn lucky.

[MahiMike]

It's certainly ruined the expectations for all fan bases. Now every fan base wants to be the next dynasty dominating for the next 20 seasons. That shit is never going to happen again. What the Patriots have is a perfect storm.

If I was a Pats fan I'd be in therapy. Seriously, how can you sleep at night knowing how the NFL gifts you all your trophies? You MUST feel guilty if you have any conscious at all.

[ClevelandBronco]

Good read.

I hoped before the game that we were going to get to see Belichick at his best. He certainly didn’t disappoint me.

IMHO, all of us who have spent a lifetime enjoying football should consider ourselves fortunate to have witnessed what this Patriots team has been able to achieve.

I’d like to see them hoist another in a couple weeks.

[EPodolak]

Good read.

I hoped before the game that we were going to get to see Belichick at his best. He certainly didn’t disappoint me.

IMHO, all of us who have spent a lifetime enjoying football should consider ourselves fortunate to have witnessed what this Patriots team has been able to achieve.

I’d like to see them hoist another in a couple weeks.

Worst post of the year so far, if serious.

[Buehler445]

I'm not going to get all butthurt.

But quite frankly, we should have blown you guys off the field. Reid shit the bed, and that opened the doors to the refs inserting themselves, and opened the door for Ford to cement himself as the dumbest fuck in a long line of dumbfucks. FUCK!

The Patriots deserve all the credit for the preparation and execution that they are obviously the best in the league at. Let's be real here, Patriots shut down the offense because Reid failed to gameplan for the blitzes the Patriots cooked up. Mahomes was obviously not prepared for them and was taken by surprise - and it's really the first time all season. It's not like they physically couldn't do it, they rock and rolled the second half. Reid fucked that up hard. Anything at all of a drive and the Defense doesn't have a shot at puking up that TD just before half. That in and of itself is ballgame.

Even more maddeningly, anyone with half a goddamned brain - obviously not Sutton or Reid, the fucks knew that the Patriots were going to run power. But we were totally unfucking prepared for it. We did a good enough job stopping it in the 2nd, so again it was a gameplan issue. And For fucks fucking sake, if the defense would sit on the short routes and make Brady beat them deep, I'm convinced would have worked since he's essentially a much faster read Alex Smith at this point, I've seen the song and dance. But that is a little further down the speculation road, so let's leave that alone.

If the Chiefs do a painfully small amount of gameplanning, they do blow you out of the building.

But no, we're the Chiefs. We can't fucking manage to not shit down our fucking legs, even though we're good enough to overcome that, it still opens the door to get fucked by the refs, Ford to shit all over the field and the defense to get fucking gassed.

You don't ever know that because you have the GOAT coach and the GOAT QB that demand excellence.

Appreciate the insight and the civility. You don't deserve any ire, you've been good. Your contemporaries have been fucks of the lowest order, but you're alright.

But yes, if the staff does any gameplanning instead off playing with their fucking dicks, you get blown out. Like it or not.

[POND_OF_RED]

Congrats on the coin flip. How long will Brady stick around and be mediocre just to pad his stats now that he knows there’s a QB that is coming for his records at 23 already. Has to make him nervous to think about how much of a head start Mahomes has on him already. I mean Brady could add his collegiate stats to his first couple years in the league and they still don’t touch the year Mahomes had. He has to know his legacy won’t hold up too much longer. This league is changing so fast.

[Angry fan]

Mods, do God's work.

Put this douche in the red and keep him there. Maybe even Miserable User this prick.

What happens when you go in red? Do you get a warm fuzzy feeling? I like warm fuzzy feelings.:)

[Amnorix]

Congrats on the coin flip. How long will Brady stick around and be mediocre just to pad his stats now that he knows there’s a QB that is coming for his records at 23 already. Has to make him nervous to think about how much of a head start Mahomes has on him already. I mean Brady could add his collegiate stats to his first couple years in the league and they still don’t touch the year Mahomes had. He has to know his legacy won’t hold up too much longer. This league is changing so fast.


Literally the league MVP last year....?

And yes, every passing and receiving record is going to fall as the NFL continues to move in the direction they are going. What won't fall soon are the ridiculous WINNING records. Most games won, most playoff games won, most SB games won, winning percentage, etc. ad infinitum. It's absurd.

[ClevelandBronco]

Worst post of the year so far, if serious.

Sure I’m serious. I get it, though. A lot of folks get emotional about “their” team. Nothing necessarily wrong with that.

[FloridaMan88]

If Dee Ford lines up correctly the Chiefs win... not sure why the Faketriots OP felt the need to write a 10,000 word thesis.

[MeatRock]

Go buttchug a quart of Freddie Mercury's blood.

ROFLROFLROFL

[KC_Connection]

Tom Brady isn't better than football than Mahomes, but he's certainly better at getting coin flips to go his way.

[POND_OF_RED]

Literally the league MVP last year....?

And yes, every passing and receiving record is going to fall as the NFL continues to move in the direction they are going. What won't fall soon are the ridiculous WINNING records. Most games won, most playoff games won, most SB games won, winning percentage, etc. ad infinitum. It's absurd.

Records are meant to be broken. If we can get even a decent defense around Mahomes I don’t think anyone doubts he can overtake all those records. He’ll start getting the same preferential star treatment Brady gets and then the sky’s the limit. Then again I guess Brady had the tuck rule his first year, so he’s kind of always had the league on his side, huh?

[GloryDayz]

I say ban him until the Pats lose the SB, then let him back. Because the Pats, who are plenty good, have always been aided by the league's officials, I hate him being here to remind us of their charmed life and our anti-charmed life.

As Lew said, do God's work until they've lost the SB.

[Rawlsian]

6. Mahomes is obviously going to be a great one, if he isn't already, but he's still young. He failed to recognize a number of things the Patriots had going on, such as the McCourty blitz. When a safety who is usually playing deep is cheating near the line, that's a signal. He also needs to work his reads/progressions faster. But he's a freaking first year QB. His 50 TDs were "inflated" due to his ridiculous support at the skill positions, but that crap doesn't happen by accident, and we all know most QBs would not have gotten anywhere near 50 TDs even with that talent. Hell, Mahomes' arm and Hill's speed are a match made in heaven for you guys, and a combo that could power you to great heights.


I for one am glad that Mahomes has Andy and not Payton or Mccarthy. We are looking at a kid who has Aaron Rodgers level type of talent in play making ability. Maybe even a hire ceiling. Even tho you can argue that he is stacked with talent I think it's safe to think with time even with average talent he's going to put mvp numbers routinely

[Rawlsian]

If Dee Ford lines up correctly the Chiefs win... not sure why the Faketriots OP felt the need to write a 10,000 word thesis.

And in reality, that should have been a warning to Dee and not a penalty. This type of influence by the zebras is what pisses off football fans.

[3731]

Sheesh after reading the replies you assholes deserve another 50 years without a Super Bowl appearance. I'm going to enjoy the next two weeks leading up yet another Super Bowl while you all can keep crying about coin flips, roughing the passers and neutral zone infractions.

[fan4ever]

I don’t agree with the Cheatriots hyperfocus but you guys did cheat. In a real way. Not like tampering. Like steroid users in baseball, you’ll never overcome that stigma and it’s fair.

All the Patriots fans think ALL of the dislike towards their team is envy..."They hate us 'cause they ain't us". They're in so much denial about the shame they should have about what their team did. They'll never understand but in this country people HATE cheaters...no matter how successful their cheating benefits them...just ask Lance Armstrong.

[Rawlsian]

Sheesh after reading the replies you assholes deserve another 50 years without a Super Bowl appearance. I'm going to enjoy the next two weeks leading up yet another Super Bowl while you all can keep crying about coin flips, roughing the passers and neutral zone infractions.

We have Mahomes and you have maybe 1 good year left in TB. you can have your rings cause our fun is just about to start. Living in the past is for losers.

[fan4ever]

Sheesh after reading the replies you assholes deserve another 50 years without a Super Bowl appearance. I'm going to enjoy the next two weeks leading up yet another Super Bowl while you all can keep crying about coin flips, roughing the passers and neutral zone infractions.

Douche joins CP and makes his first post...ROFL

[Rawlsian]

All the Patriots fans think ALL of the dislike towards their team is envy..."They hate us 'cause they ain't us". They're in so much denial about the shame they should have about what their team did. They'll never understand but in this country people HATE cheaters...no matter how successful their cheating benefits them...just ask Lance Armstrong.


not going to discredit the big time throws , the leadership, the pre-snap adjustments, the dedication TB12 puts out there BUT ..

When you see how close all of the pats games have finished in year's past you absolutely cannot down play the cheating that they were caught doing. it gives them just enough of an edge to get over the top. makes you wonder what other dishonesty was going on that wasn't seen.

[Mecca]

Sheesh after reading the replies you assholes deserve another 50 years without a Super Bowl appearance. I'm going to enjoy the next two weeks leading up yet another Super Bowl while you all can keep crying about coin flips, roughing the passers and neutral zone infractions.

You're on a Chiefs forum dipshit, and even casual fans hate the Patriots. They have legit destroyed a sport for a generation of people.

[carcosa]

Sheesh after reading the replies you assholes deserve another 50 years without a Super Bowl appearance. I'm going to enjoy the next two weeks leading up yet another Super Bowl while you all can keep crying about coin flips, roughing the passers and neutral zone infractions.

Kill yourself

[CoMoChief]

OP needs to go fuck itself off the face of this earth.

East coast fucking liberal cocksucker.

[3731]

We have Mahomes and you have maybe 1 good year left in TB. you can have your rings cause our fun is just about to start. Living in the past is for losers.

Not really living in the past when I'm looking forward to watching my team play in the Super Bowl in two weeks. I like Mahomes so I'm not going to shit on him, just your stupid fan base. Enjoy the Super Bowl asshole.

[GloryDayz]

Sheesh after reading the replies you assholes deserve another 50 years without a Super Bowl appearance. I'm going to enjoy the next two weeks leading up yet another Super Bowl while you all can keep crying about coin flips, roughing the passers and neutral zone infractions.

Cheaters victory lap...

[carcosa]

Not really living in the past when I'm looking forward to watching my team play in the Super Bowl in two weeks. I like Mahomes so I'm not going to shit on him, just your stupid fan base. Enjoy the Super Bowl asshole.

Get hit by a bus in front of your ugly family, you piece of shit

[3731]

Get hit by a bus in front of your ugly family, you piece of shit

You seem very upset the Chiefs won't be playing in the Super Bowl.

[carcosa]

You seem very upset the Chiefs won't be playing in the Super Bowl.

I'm upset that you're still breathing

[GloryDayz]

You seem very upset the Chiefs won't be playing in the Super Bowl.

Don't you have a pressure cooker to make something in? If not, aren't you busy providing material support for terrorists?

[3731]

I'm upset that you're still breathing

Look I know you’re upset that the Chiefs lost to the Patriots in the playoffs again, this time at home and blew the best chance of playing in the Super Bowl in 50 years. Maybe some Melissa Ethridge music will settle you down.

[FloridaMan88]

When Brady retires to spend more time French kissing his kids and Faketriot fans face an immediate future of having Brian Hoyer as their QB, I am pretty sure they will all vanish like a fart in the wind.

[Angry fan]

When Brady retires to spend more time French kissing his kids and Faketriot fans face an immediate future of having Brian Hoyer as their QB, I am pretty sure they will all vanish like a fart in the wind.

Will someone please tell me where the faketriots moniker came from? I don't get that one. I get the cheatriots one.

[GloryDayz]

When Brady retires to spend more time French kissing his kids and Faketriot fans face an immediate future of having Brian Hoyer as their QB, I am pretty sure they will all vanish like a fart in the wind.

I'm sure Tom will be playing long into his 60s. Lord knows all he has to do is stand there and the officials will do the rest.

[FloridaMan88]

Will someone please tell me where the faketriots moniker came from? I don't get that one. I get the cheatriots one.

Derived from the fact that most of their fans are fake... 98% of current Faketriot “fans” have only been on the team’s bandwagon since Belichick/Brady began winning Super Bowls.

Let’s see if these Faketriot fans continue posting on here when Brady retires, Mahomes is dominating the league, and Brian Hoyer is your immediate QBOTF.

[I_Hate_Rap]

My unsolicited (and no doubt unwanted) thoughts on an amazing AFCCG

1. First, amazing game. Put aside the rooting interest and the result, and that was one hell of a crazy, entertaining football game, with multiple lead changes and more drama than any damn reality show has to fake create. The game earned the highest TV ratings of any show since last year's Super Bowl, and it delivered. A Patriots beat guy tweeted that the game was "bananapants" with about four minutes left to play, which was before like two touchdowns, a FG, a couple of replay reviews, and an overtime!

2. As Chiefs fans, it looks to me like you have some great years ahead of you to look forward to. Mahomes is obviously the real deal, though still raw, and you have him on an underpaid contract for two more years I understand. Huge competitive advantage. Hill and Kelce are rare talents. Your OLine could be better, though, and your defense. Well, I don't need to say much there.

3. If it helps, think of it this way -- it took the GOAT coach and GOAT QB overtime to beat you even though (1) the Patriots had few penalties, and the team overall played very disciplined all game, (2) the Chiefs defense just sucks right now, (3) Patriots somehow held the Chiefs scoreless in the first half, (4) the Pats kept Hill/Kelce to under 100 yards total, (5) the Chiefs running game was shut down, and (6) the Patriots successfully played "keep away" from the Chiefs offense for most of the game, running about 2 plays on offense for every 1 the Chiefs had. I mean, it's ridiculous how much effort that took. IMHO, the fact that the Patriots KNEW the Chiefs had a hell of a team is proven by Brady's over the top joyous reaction to winning. He's the ultimate "been there, done that" guy and he still acted like a rookie who had won the championship itself when they won.

4. IMHO Belichick and the Patriots coaches won this game far more than any individual player on the Patriots side. I thought Brady was unexceptional most of the game -- but the Patriots game plan was outstanding, on all sides of the ball. Keep away on offense by pounding the ball relentlessly and chewing up clock. Demoralizing/tiring the Chiefs defense. Not allowing the Chiefs offense to get into a rhythm. Good pass rush which kept Mahomes in the pocket, generated pressure, but didn't allow Mahomes to scramble where he is so ridiculously dangerous. It was honestly a thing of beauty as a game plan, in my opinion. It's a great demonstration of why Belichick is the GOAT coach.

5. The Chiefs OLine didn't look good at all. The Patriots completely shut down the run, and were able to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's not surprising for the Patriots OLine, which is excellent, but for the Chiefs OLine to be that poor is troubling. Not sure what is up there as I haven't seen many Chiefs games, but if that's a trend you should be concerned. Mahomes style of play is higher risk than you'd like, and keeping him safe should be a high priority.

6. Mahomes is obviously going to be a great one, if he isn't already, but he's still young. He failed to recognize a number of things the Patriots had going on, such as the McCourty blitz. When a safety who is usually playing deep is cheating near the line, that's a signal. He also needs to work his reads/progressions faster. But he's a freaking first year QB. His 50 TDs were "inflated" due to his ridiculous support at the skill positions, but that crap doesn't happen by accident, and we all know most QBs would not have gotten anywhere near 50 TDs even with that talent. Hell, Mahomes' arm and Hill's speed are a match made in heaven for you guys, and a combo that could power you to great heights.

7. I stayed silent during the week building up to the game, but I never did understand how so many Chiefs fans thought they would completely blow the Patriots off the field. I know their year has been one of ups and downs, but if you've watched the NFL over the last two decades, you should've known the Patriots weren't going to come in and roll over for you guys the way the limp-ass, young, inexperienced Colts did. Hell, if it wasn't for the "Miracle in Miami" that game would've been in Foxboro instead of Arrowhead. A tip for the future -- learned the hard way -- NEVER underestimate your opponent. If the 2007 Patriots could lose to the freaking 9-7 Giants, then "any given Sunday" is an absolute reality, and not just a pithy phrase.

8. I have to end with a comment on the many Cheatriots comments. They are sad. When the Patriots keep winning just as relentlessly after these ridiculous scandals as before, what does that tell you about whether or not these scandals made any sense at all? Apparently some want to believe the Patriots just have other ways of cheating to keep on winning, or that they can blame the weak AFC East. Neither makes any sense. The fact is you lost to the greatest dynasty in NFL history, the GOAT coach and GOAT QB, and while they might be in decline, they certainly ain't dead yet, as they proved yet again.

Good luck next year. May we meet again in the AFCCG, with an equally entertaining game and the same result!! :D

I'm not a Chiefs' fan but registered just to respond to this post.


You're truly lacking in an understanding of NFL history if you really believe Brady is the greatest QB of all time. I suggest you study eras when QB's weren't protected and before rule changes made the passing game much easier.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Go buttchug a quart of Freddie Mercury's blood.

LMAO

[crayzkirk]

9. You forgot to thank the teams in the AFC lEast for being a group of antifreeze chugging, AIDS infested, non-competitive losers which hand the Patriots 5-6 wins each year. Don't forget the schedule makers which have you playing the toughest opponents at home each year.

[ARROW2]

EAT A DICK BITCH!!!!

[UK_Chief]

I've heard Ford's break down, but I thought they were talking about trucks!

That was over the line man! Wait, what did I say?

[lawrenceRaider]

And five Super Bowl rings. Let's face it, he's the GOAT no matter what he does from here on out. If he goes off the proverbial cliff, then "he should've hung 'em up earlier."

No, he isn't the GOAT. He is the most successful QB ever at this point, largely aided by cheating in his early years, the worst fuck job ever in a playoff game to start it all off, and a league geared towards putting skirts on QBs. I'll still take Montana if you give me any one QB to win a big game, especially with today's rules.

[Mile High Mania]

Tom Brady is playing for his sixth SB title.
There were six infinity stones... #thinkaboutit

[JohnnyV13]

I'm not a Chiefs' fan but registered just to respond to this post.


You're truly lacking in an understanding of NFL history if you really believe Brady is the greatest QB of all time. I suggest you study eras when QB's weren't protected and before rule changes made the passing game much easier.

I think Brady is in the argument. Unitas, Bart Starr (if you buy into the Title argument), Otto Graham, Sammy Baugh, Sid Luckman are all there too, but it's really hard to compare.

[DTHOF]

Just what is needed a Patriots fan to lecture us Chiefs fans about how to act and what we did wrong. I feel so much better now that Pats brilliance has blessed us with their presence. One of the reasons I wanted the Chiefs to win is so I wouldn't have to hear the word GOAT for the eleventeened billion time this month.

[RufusRJones]

Just what is needed a Patriots fan to lecture us Chiefs fans about how to act and what we did wrong. I feel so much better now that Pats brilliance has blessed us with their presence. One of the reasons I wanted the Chiefs to win is so I wouldn't have to hear the word GOAT for the eleventeened billion time this month.

Exactly. They act like somehow we have some sort of business relationship and we are obligated to bow down to their greatness.

We don’t owe you anything. We have no contracts. We’re fans.

Now if you want to sign the contact and get in the ring - Rufus will choke you out!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

#NUKEBOSTON

[stevieray]

pfffft.

We beat that team. Even with our crappy defense.

Brady lost that game on his 3rd int.

You won a coin toss.

[InChiefsHeaven]

pfffft.

We beat that team. Even with our crappy defense.

Brady lost that game on his 3rd int.

You won a coin toss.

It's truly amazing though to think that the luck you mentioned here \just always seems to come down on the Pats side. Yes, they beat us in the first half, no two ways about it. But when the time for a lucky bounce (or penalty) needs to go our way, it naturally goes the Pats way. They needed luck more than we did basically. And they got it.

It's disgusting that they all feel so superior because they were lucky.

[Rain Man]

One must respect amnorix's bravery in this thread.

[FloridaMan88]

We will all be eagerly waiting for Assnorix's 10,000 word sermon when Mahomes and the Chiefs are destroying the Brian Hoyer/"Insert Another Stop Gap QB Veteran Name" led Faketriots after Brady retires (which could be as soon as a few weeks if the Faketriots win the Super Bowl).

Assnorix is desperately trying to prove that he is different than the other Faketriot trolls who have infested this board during the past few weeks so make your pledge now... guarantee that you will be back here to post another 10,000 word sermon when Brady retires and the Chiefs inevitably destroy the Faketriots.

Also since you felt the need to lecture Chiefs fans, please explain the grace and class displayed by Faketriots fans in the photo enclosed below:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DphMnptUwAEwpWn.jpg

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

You guys really should be better than posting that sort of bullshit. The drive before featured the Patriots recovering a Chiefs fumble, only to have that be negated by a holding call that had nothing to do with the play. A huge gain for the Chiefs was the result of a blatantly illegal pick play where contact was made well past the one yard limit. Eric Berry was dry humping Gronk down the field on play after play, and that wasn't getting called.

So your whining about an obviously valid call is ridiculous.

Really? Kelce never had control of that catch and it wouldn't have been ruled a fumble...

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Derived from the fact that most of their fans are fake... 98% of current Faketriot “fans” have only been on the team’s bandwagon since Belichick/Brady began winning Super Bowls.

Let’s see if these Faketriot fans continue posting on here when Brady retires, Mahomes is dominating the league, and Brian Hoyer is your immediate QBOTF.

No doubt... There were 7 Patriot fans in my section, sitting together, all wearing Nebraska Cornhusker stocking caps... I guess in about 5 years we will have to deal with this as teams latch on to the Chiefs success. I still give some of my friends shit that became Pittsburgh fans in the 70's and 80's and had never been within 3 states from Pennsylvania...

[Demonpenz]

Why can't you downvote and hide a thread?

[Demonpenz]

...eagerly awaits more boston people to die because of pancake syrup

[GloryDayz]

I pray the 31 other teams put together a pool of money to pay the player who breaks Tom's legs if he chooses to come back next year.

And if they Rams want any chance of winning the SB, they'll do exactly that, early in the first quarter. Take the official's bias toward him and all things "Pats" out of the game early, and the best way to do that is to take Tom out of the game.

Even if that's terrible of me to say, you all know it's correct. Tom WILL get his calls, right on cue, and I think the officials know that the Rams can't be gifted anything.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

pfffft.

We beat that team. Even with our crappy defense.

Brady lost that game on his 3rd int.

You won a coin toss.

This is ALL TRUE!

[bdj23]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/IYjiXRV622OBO/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095c4113ee594852446fe44e7d

Let me guess?

Condescending pat on the head thread is condescending

[swifty32661]

:):):):):)

Don’t you have a Patriots board to look at Tom making out with his son to be at?

[swifty32661]

Perfectly stated. Agree with you 100 percent on all points.


Brady and Billichick have made a deal with the devil. No two people have ever been this lucky in life.

They're great at what they do but come on! From the tuck rule to the stupid call by the Seahawks to throwing picks that are negated to winning coin tosses. Not to mention hundreds of calls that somehow always go their way.

Gronk is NOT the best TE in history. He's just the biggest one with hands the size of snow shovels.

Brady is NOT the GOAT. He's the GSQBOAT. Greatest System QB of all time. Just like Mahomes got lucky to have Andy, he's benefited from Belichick.

Belichick IS the GOAT coach. That's undeniable.

But still damn lucky.

[Pablo]

#NUKEBOSTON

This is truly how we #MakeAmericaGreatAgain.

[Chiefshrink]

It's truly amazing though to think that the luck you mentioned here \just always seems to come down on the Pats side. Yes, they beat us in the first half, no two ways about it. But when the time for a lucky bounce (or penalty) needs to go our way, it naturally goes the Pats way. They needed luck more than we did basically. And they got it.

It's disgusting that they all feel so superior because they were lucky.

:thumb:

Just like their luck when Carroll decided to go full whack job throwing the ball on the 2yd line when their was 20 sec left and 1 time out after just watching Lynch give the Pats a rushing beatdown for 70yds only to get it picked.:rolleyes:

[Amnorix]

I'm not a Chiefs' fan but registered just to respond to this post.


You're truly lacking in an understanding of NFL history if you really believe Brady is the greatest QB of all time. I suggest you study eras when QB's weren't protected and before rule changes made the passing game much easier.

Simple logic fail to think that because the rules have changed no p,ayer who p,ayed afterthe rule change can POSSIBLY be better than those from before the rule change. I watched plenty of Montana and more of Marino and Elway than i care to remember. Never saw Unitas or Starr or Otto fucking Graham, but most dont put them number one anyway.

But obviouslt everyone has their own opinion on the goat question and you’re entitled to yours, no matter how wrong it is. :D

[Amnorix]

9. You forgot to thank the teams in the AFC lEast for being a group of antifreeze chugging, AIDS infested, non-competitive losers which hand the Patriots 5-6 wins each year. Don't forget the schedule makers which have you playing the toughest opponents at home each year.

Simple failure to understand that, first, the patriots won/loss record outside the division is the same as that inside the division and, second, that the NFL schedule, including home/away games, is pre-set years in advance pursuant to a formula. Ignorant poster is ignorant.

[Dr. Yu Weed Tard]

This is truly how we #MakeAmericaGreatAgain.

It would be a damn fine start.

[Amnorix]

No, he isn't the GOAT. He is the most successful QB ever at this point, largely aided by cheating in his early years, the worst fuck job ever in a playoff game to start it all off, and a league geared towards putting skirts on QBs. I'll still take Montana if you give me any one QB to win a big game, especially with today's rules.

Tuck rule was a stupid rule, but a rule. Sorry you (a raiders fan) got screwed by it, bit that doesnt make it the wrong call.

Montana is my number two, so sure, go with him if you like.

[swifty32661]

Amnorix, why are you here? I'm not being a smart ass, I truly want to understand this.

If the Chiefs win a Super Bowl/AFCCG, the last thing on my mind is to go post on the losing team's fan board. I don't get it.

Are you trying to make yourself feel better? us feel better? worse? it doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe it's boredom as you're tired of the Patriot's boards where all you do is pat each other on the back saying how great your team is? Something else I haven't mentioned?

Please elaborate on your reasoning.




Tuck rule was a stupid rule, but a rule. Sorry you (a raiders fan) got screwed by it, bit that doesnt make it the wrong call.

Montana is my number two, so sure, go with him if you like.

[Rain Man]

Simple logic fail to think that because the rules have changed no p,ayer who p,ayed afterthe rule change can POSSIBLY be better than those from before the rule change. I watched plenty of Montana and more of Marino and Elway than i care to remember. Never saw Unitas or Starr or Otto fucking Graham, but most dont put them number one anyway.

But obviouslt everyone has their own opinion on the goat question and you’re entitled to yours, no matter how wrong it is. :D

If you're going to mention Elway, you need to mention Chris Chandler and Jeff Blake since they were better than him.

[carcosa]

One must respect amnorix's bravery in this thread.

I will never respect any Patriots fan for any reason.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I would love to see Brady get tossed in a time machine and have to play a game against the '85 Bears or '91 Eagles with those defensive rules.

[Rain Man]

Amnorix, why are you here? I'm not being a smart ass, I truly want to understand this.

If the Chiefs win a Super Bowl/AFCCG, the last thing on my mind is to go post on the losing team's fan board. I don't get it.

Are you trying to make yourself feel better? us feel better? worse? it doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe it's boredom as you're tired of the Patriot's boards where all you do is pat each other on the back saying how great your team is? Something else I haven't mentioned?

Please elaborate on your reasoning.


Amnorix is one of us. He's been here for eons, so I don't have any issue with him at all. And having seen the knuckledragging Patriots pseudofans who showed up to drool on my screen last week, I completely understand why a literate and thoughtful Patriots fan would choose to hang out with us.

[swifty32661]

I hear you. It's just a foreign concept for me to want to "hang out" with other teams fans on their fan boards, win/lose/tie/whatever.

That's all I'm trying to understand...

Amnorix is one of us. He's been here for eons, so I don't have any issue with him at all. And having seen the knuckledragging Patriots pseudofans who showed up to drool on my screen last week, I completely understand why a literate and thoughtful Patriots fan would choose to hang out with us.

[crayzkirk]

Simple failure to understand that, first, the patriots won/loss record outside the division is the same as that inside the division and, second, that the NFL schedule, including home/away games, is pre-set years in advance pursuant to a formula. Ignorant poster is ignorant.


Yeah! Insults. Using generalizations and disregarding the merit of my comment.

The AFC LEAST is warmed up dog poo.

[2112]

I hear you. It's just a foreign concept for me to want to "hang out" with other teams fans on their fan boards, win/lose/tie/whatever.

That's all I'm trying to understand...

I’m not a Chiefs fan. I came here after Herm got hired just for shits and giggles. And as listopencil told me after I was here a while “now you’re trapped here like the rest of us”.

This place is very unique. I don’t even post on any other boards. And it’s docile now compared to when I came here or when amnorix came here. Lol you got hazed by skip towne and some others. And if you didn’t have thick skin you wouldn’t last long.

Just my 2 cents as a non Chiefs fan

[Buehler445]

I hear you. It's just a foreign concept for me to want to "hang out" with other teams fans on their fan boards, win/lose/tie/whatever.

That's all I'm trying to understand...

So why are you here? You’ve been registered less than 25 days and on your 13th post you’re calling out decade + members?

That’s what I don’t understand.

[ricko1112]

Everyone who saw the replay knows that the RTP was bogus. I've heard it explained that the official who called it had a bad angle. Still, those calls happen every single game. Pats fans still aren't over Eli being clearly "in the grasp" or the never before seen intentional grounding 40 yards down the middle of the field.

NE gets their fair share of crap calls each year, but they are magnified because it's the Patriots, who are so deep in most teams' heads, that scandals need to be invented to explain their success.

Deflategate? Tires, basketballs, and footballs lose pressure in cold weather. It's a fact. Don't forget that the Colts' footballs were also below the legal psi level too! Yes, the were and you can easily look it up. Don't bother with the "phone" or "deflator" crap either. Brady was explicitly told the phone wasn't needed since Wells had already collected nearly 15k texts and emails. Wells even praised Brady for his level of cooperation. "Deflator" was used exactly ONE TIME in 15k communications and even that was used in the previous season in jest.

Spygate? It wasn't even a rule at the time! NE wasn't dinged for filming because filming has NEVER been against the rules. It was the location of the camera. Goodell tried to create a new rule with a memo which is not allowed.

Taping walkthroughs? The hack who wrote that apologized for making the story up. His paper dedicated the entire front page for an apology.

Why do you think that not one single former player or coach has ever mentioned cheating?

I've held my tongue through all this nonsense and this will be my only post here. Most Chiefs fans know that they lost fair and square. It was a great game. Pats fans know Brady is nearing the end of his career. 1 - 3 years left. Then the most amazing run in sports history will gradually fade. Not drop off a cliff.

PM is just starting out and KC should have a great future ahead of them. Right now, people like KC because they haven't had much success in so long. People always hate sustained excellence and make excuses. Yankees, Montreal Canadiens, Chicago Bulls, Buffalo Bills, etc...

Just to be sure, get rid of Reid! You'll never win with him... Enjoy the next few years!

I'm out.....

[SuperBowl4]

Finally! A thread worse than watching paint dry!

[stevieray]

I would love to see Brady get tossed in a time machine and have to play a game against the '85 Bears or '91 Eagles with those defensive rules.

I was telling my wife...Brady playing against Bruce Smith and Reggie White?

ROFL

[Jimkcchief88]

Literally the league MVP last year....?

And yes, every passing and receiving record is going to fall as the NFL continues to move in the direction they are going. What won't fall soon are the ridiculous WINNING records. Most games won, most playoff games won, most SB games won, winning percentage, etc. ad infinitum. It's absurd.

I moved to Chicago during the second Bulls Championship run. Then Mike left/retired. Bulls haven't won crap since. You sound like Bulls fans USED to sound. Enjoy it while you can. Dynasties run in cycles. Brady's run in a Patriots uniform isn't close to Bill Russells' run in a Celtics uniform. I don't even consider this Pats team a dynasty. To many big losse, to many rule changes(tuck rule, Brady can't be touched), Spygate, deflate gate.... Joe Montana is still the GOAT. No Superbowl losses in an era in which you were allowed to CREAM the QB. Brady couldn't played NFL QB in the 80's-90's.

[GloryDayz]

I would love to see Brady get tossed in a time machine and have to play a game against the '85 Bears or '91 Eagles with those defensive rules.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[GloryDayz]

Amnorix, why are you here? I'm not being a smart ass, I truly want to understand this.

If the Chiefs win a Super Bowl/AFCCG, the last thing on my mind is to go post on the losing team's fan board. I don't get it.

Are you trying to make yourself feel better? us feel better? worse? it doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe it's boredom as you're tired of the Patriot's boards where all you do is pat each other on the back saying how great your team is? Something else I haven't mentioned?

Please elaborate on your reasoning.

He's been here a while, unlike you. And unlike fucking Pats boards we don't ban people for being different. That's like racist 'n shit, being racist is a "coast people" thing.

[GloryDayz]

I was telling my wife...Brady playing against Bruce Smith and Reggie White?

ROFL

Jack Lambert... Ed Jones... Any 80's LB on bad horse sauce....

[Rain Man]

I hear you. It's just a foreign concept for me to want to "hang out" with other teams fans on their fan boards, win/lose/tie/whatever.

That's all I'm trying to understand...

I think the key difference is that we're so interesting and well-rounded around here. We know football, of course, but we know cooking and cars and pornography and pets and antifreeze and music and politics and conspiracy theories and pretty much everything else.

[2112]

I think the key difference is that we're so interesting and well-rounded around here. We know football, of course, but we know cooking and cars and pornography and pets and antifreeze and music and politics and conspiracy theories and pretty much everything else.

ROFL

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'd also like to add that I don't think Brady's durability is all that impressive when so many QBs are now durable.

How many games has Eli Manning missed? Rivers? Brees? What about Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford, or Matt Ryan?

[fierro604]

I love watching Mahomes play, the offense just shocks to the system knowing at any point it can explode.

My issue is that the Chiefs turn into the Ravens, a great coach, QB you can relay on but a salary cap that doesn't allow much room because your QB is eating up 25% of it.

What the Pat's have with Brady is unique, also his women makes more then him so it makes his decision that much better.

Andy better pull through as this team has a life span of 2 years before Mahomes gets paid. If Andy cant find a way to win before that, I can see him gone.

[Buehler445]

It’s womAn, yo.

Unless his daughter or mistress also pulls in more than him.

[Amnorix]

I was telling my wife...Brady playing against Bruce Smith and Reggie White?

ROFL


Why not? Brady has missed precisely ZERO games due to injury other than his ACL year, and quite a few of those games came before many of the changes that have reduced hard hits in the game.

Brady is clearly one of the toughest QBs to play, perfectly willing to hang in the pocket and take hits to deliver the ball. I don't see a goddamn thing that makes him less tough than Marino was in his day (a similar style QB). I'm not old enough to compare him to a Bradshaw or Unitas or whatever, but WTF is the point of such comparisons anyway?

[Amnorix]

I moved to Chicago during the second Bulls Championship run. Then Mike left/retired. Bulls haven't won crap since. You sound like Bulls fans USED to sound. Enjoy it while you can. Dynasties run in cycles.

I'm old enough to have watched all of the Bird era Celtics, and then watch them fall into oblivion for over a decade, and old enough to have seen MANY years of the "Curse of the Bambino" Red Sox, including Bill Buckner through the legs. I know that this era will end, and I will never see a Patriots team this good for this long again. Hell, I will likely never see the Patriots win another SB again after BB/Brady retire. I'm ok with it, though, as this run has been far more than I ever could have hoped for. But yeah, perspective -- I have it, believe it. I'm not so young...

Brady's run in a Patriots uniform isn't close to Bill Russells' run in a Celtics uniform.

Perhaps, but Bill Russell is the greatest winner in team sports history, with 14 championships in 15 years. 11 NBA, 2 college and a Gold Medal. NOBODY will ever duplicate that, I suspect.

I don't even consider this Pats team a dynasty. To many big losse, to many rule changes(tuck rule, Brady can't be touched), Spygate, deflate gate....

Comedy gold then. The Patriots have set the following records during this run:

1. Most appearances in the Super Bowl by any NFL Team ever (BB/Brady are going to their 9th. No other TEAM in their entire history has been to more than 8).

2. Most wins in a decade.

3. Most wins over 2 decades

4. Most conference championships in a decade, or 2 decades.

5. Most conference championship appearances.

6. Most conference championship appearances in a row.

7. Most playoff wins

8. Most Super Bowl appearances.

9. Most Super Bowl victories during a single dynasty period (tied)

If that's not a dynasty, there is no dynasty. As for the scandals, spare me. The relentless winning prove how utterly absurd the NFL was in inventing scandals to dethrone the Patriots.

Joe Montana is still the GOAT. No Superbowl losses in an era in which you were allowed to CREAM the QB. Brady couldn't played NFL QB in the 80's-90's.

Joe MOntana went 4-0 in SBs in an era where the AFC SUCKED. The AFC lost like 14 SBs in a row to NFC teams! He lost in the NFCCG 49-3 once, and was one and done three times in a row. In your formula, it would be BETTER for Montana to get smoked 49-3 in the NFCCG than to win that game and then lose in the Super Bowl. That makes sense to you?

I watched TONS of football in the 80s and 90s. There is no reason at all to suggest that Brady isn't as tough as Drew fucking Bledsoe and Dan Marino and Dan Fouts and Phil Simms and the other statue QBs of that era. Literally nothing. He's taken all the hits and gotten back up to keep crushing teams, time and time again. It's a joke to suggest he isn't tough.

[Amnorix]

Let me ask this -- Mahomes career resume is BETTER because he lost last Sunday than if he had won, willing his team to over 30 points in the second half, and then lost in the SB? That right?

[Mecca]

Your answers as to why Brady wouldn't have lasted as long exist right here...

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Brady wouldn't survive that.

[FloridaMan88]

It is hilarious watching Assnorix hysterically trying to convince everyone (also himself?) about the supposed greatness of the Faketriots dynasty.

No one cares.

[Amnorix]

Your answers as to why Brady wouldn't have lasted as long exist right here...

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Brady wouldn't survive that.


Your first video is irrelevant. Brady isn't fucking rolling out and running down the sideline like a dumbass.

Your second video is Joe Ferguson getting blasted by one of the best defenses ever, the '85 Bears. Brady isn't holding the ball for five seconds and running around back there like Ferguson was. If you don't understand that, you don't understand football, or Brady, or the Patriots.

Dan Marino was 6'4" and 225 lbs and was a complete statue with AMAZING footwork, and "feel" in the pocket.

Tom Brady is, cough, 6'4" and 225 lbs and is a complete statue with AMAZING footwork and "feel" in the pocket.

If you can begin to explain to me why you think Brady would've taken more of a pounding than Marino did and/or not have taken it as well as Marino did, then I'm all ears. But you can't because it's stupid "back in the day...up a hill....both ways...." nonsense.

[Chiefer8989]

We have Mahomes and you have maybe 1 good year left in TB. you can have your rings cause our fun is just about to start. Living in the past is for losers.

They have 5 SB wins. Chiefs have 1 from 50 years ago. Jealous much dude? Chiefs lost. End of story. Season was a waste.

[stevieray]

Season was a waste.

sounds legit.

:rolleyes:

[stevieray]

I'm old enough to have watched all of the Bird era Celtics, and then watch them fall into oblivion for over a decade, and old enough to have seen MANY years of the "Curse of the Bambino" Red Sox, including Bill Buckner through the legs. I know that this era will end, and I will never see a Patriots team this good for this long again. Hell, I will likely never see the Patriots win another SB again after BB/Brady retire. I'm ok with it, though, as this run has been far more than I ever could have hoped for. But yeah, perspective -- I have it, believe it. I'm not so young...



Perhaps, but Bill Russell is the greatest winner in team sports history, with 14 championships in 15 years. 11 NBA, 2 college and a Gold Medal. NOBODY will ever duplicate that, I suspect.



Comedy gold then. The Patriots have set the following records during this run:

1. Most appearances in the Super Bowl by any NFL Team ever (BB/Brady are going to their 9th. No other TEAM in their entire history has been to more than 8).

2. Most wins in a decade.

3. Most wins over 2 decades

4. Most conference championships in a decade, or 2 decades.

5. Most conference championship appearances.

6. Most conference championship appearances in a row.

7. Most playoff wins

8. Most Super Bowl appearances.

9. Most Super Bowl victories during a single dynasty period (tied)

If that's not a dynasty, there is no dynasty. As for the scandals, spare me. The relentless winning prove how utterly absurd the NFL was in inventing scandals to dethrone the Patriots.



Joe MOntana went 4-0 in SBs in an era where the AFC SUCKED. The AFC lost like 14 SBs in a row to NFC teams! He lost in the NFCCG 49-3 once, and was one and done three times in a row. In your formula, it would be BETTER for Montana to get smoked 49-3 in the NFCCG than to win that game and then lose in the Super Bowl. That makes sense to you?

I watched TONS of football in the 80s and 90s. There is no reason at all to suggest that Brady isn't as tough as Drew fucking Bledsoe and Dan Marino and Dan Fouts and Phil Simms and the other statue QBs of that era. Literally nothing. He's taken all the hits and gotten back up to keep crushing teams, time and time again. It's a joke to suggest he isn't tough.

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[Best22]

I'd also like to add that I don't think Brady's durability is all that impressive when so many QBs are now durable.

How many games has Eli Manning missed? Rivers? Brees? What about Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford, or Matt Ryan?

Brady missed one season since 2001. Other than that he never miss a game

[Amnorix]

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I understand. Too many words. Maybe this is better.

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['Hamas' Jenkins]

I think they also have more cheating scandals and forfeited draft picks than all 122 other professional franchises.

And the most prolific murderer, I believe. Can't forget the murderer.

[Mecca]

I think they also have more cheating scandals and forfeited draft picks than all 122 other professional franchises.

And the most prolific murderer, I believe. Can't forget the murderer.

That's pretty impressive though.

[Rawlsian]

Brady missed one season since 2001. Other than that he never miss a game
You're right.
Other than when he's suspended

[jerryaldini]

Kid won science fair by proving Brady is a cheater.

How did you come up with the idea for your science fair project?

Because I hate Tom Brady, he’s been accused of cheating before, I want him to be caught.

He also said that he thinks Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all time, and knows exactly what he’d say to Brady if he ever met him.

If you could share a message with Tom Brady what would you say to him?

Gimme some of your money, you don’t deserve it

https://news.yahoo.com/news/10-year-old-kid-won-science-fair-proving-tom-brady-cheater-184439991.html

[I_Hate_Rap]

I'm old enough to have watched all of the Bird era Celtics, and then watch them fall into oblivion for over a decade, and old enough to have seen MANY years of the "Curse of the Bambino" Red Sox, including Bill Buckner through the legs. I know that this era will end, and I will never see a Patriots team this good for this long again. Hell, I will likely never see the Patriots win another SB again after BB/Brady retire. I'm ok with it, though, as this run has been far more than I ever could have hoped for. But yeah, perspective -- I have it, believe it. I'm not so young...



Perhaps, but Bill Russell is the greatest winner in team sports history, with 14 championships in 15 years. 11 NBA, 2 college and a Gold Medal. NOBODY will ever duplicate that, I suspect.



Comedy gold then. The Patriots have set the following records during this run:

1. Most appearances in the Super Bowl by any NFL Team ever (BB/Brady are going to their 9th. No other TEAM in their entire history has been to more than 8).

2. Most wins in a decade.

3. Most wins over 2 decades

4. Most conference championships in a decade, or 2 decades.

5. Most conference championship appearances.

6. Most conference championship appearances in a row.

7. Most playoff wins

8. Most Super Bowl appearances.

9. Most Super Bowl victories during a single dynasty period (tied)

If that's not a dynasty, there is no dynasty. As for the scandals, spare me. The relentless winning prove how utterly absurd the NFL was in inventing scandals to dethrone the Patriots.



Joe MOntana went 4-0 in SBs in an era where the AFC SUCKED. The AFC lost like 14 SBs in a row to NFC teams! He lost in the NFCCG 49-3 once, and was one and done three times in a row. In your formula, it would be BETTER for Montana to get smoked 49-3 in the NFCCG than to win that game and then lose in the Super Bowl. That makes sense to you?

I watched TONS of football in the 80s and 90s. There is no reason at all to suggest that Brady isn't as tough as Drew ****ing Bledsoe and Dan Marino and Dan Fouts and Phil Simms and the other statue QBs of that era. Literally nothing. He's taken all the hits and gotten back up to keep crushing teams, time and time again. It's a joke to suggest he isn't tough.

Nitpick: The 49-3 game was not the championship. It was the divisional game.

The AFC did not suck in the '80s. The NFC was simply epic. The 49ers, Redskins, Giants, and Bears were all good enough to have dynasties except that they all existed at the same time. See, in the days before the salary cap, there were a few teams that were wicked good. Unlike this era where we have a bunch of mediocre teams and no really good teams.

I suggest you go watch the 1990 NFCCG between the Giants and 49ers. Brady and the Patriots would have gotten their asses handed to them by either of those defenses.

Everybody outside of New England knows the Patriots are a fake dynasty because their success is built on freakish luck.

Super Bowl #1 - Patriots lost in the divisional game but the refs selectively enforced an obscure, questionable rule. NFL history and physics say that was a fumble.

Super Bowls #4 and #5 - Patriots should have lost except for last minute meltdowns by opposing offensive coordinators. Seahawks and Falcons call running plays and Patriots lose both games.

Patriots also choked away their perfect season.

Brady's record in the Super Bowl should be 2-5. Not the GOAT.

[I_Hate_Rap]

I think they also have more cheating scandals and forfeited draft picks than all 122 other professional franchises.

And the most prolific murderer, I believe. Can't forget the murderer.

The Bills might not agree.

[SuperBowl4]

That's pretty impressive though.They win on both sides of the coin

[Amnorix]

Kid won science fair by proving Brady is a cheater.

How did you come up with the idea for your science fair project?

Because I hate Tom Brady, he’s been accused of cheating before, I want him to be caught.

He also said that he thinks Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all time, and knows exactly what he’d say to Brady if he ever met him.

If you could share a message with Tom Brady what would you say to him?

Gimme some of your money, you don’t deserve it

https://news.yahoo.com/news/10-year-old-kid-won-science-fair-proving-tom-brady-cheater-184439991.html


Most likely cuz his dad hates Brady and the Patriots. :D

[Amnorix]

Brady's record in the Super Bowl should be 2-5. Not the GOAT.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The Bills might not agree.

Prolific as in quantity not notoriety

[stevieray]

I understand. Too many words. Maybe this is bett

Hot damn, how insecure can you be?

obviously, it's off the rails.

grow up, dude, this is no different than the asshole trolls who showed up.

[Rasputin]

And five Super Bowl rings. Let's face it, he's the GOAT no matter what he does from here on out. If he goes off the proverbial cliff, then "he should've hung 'em up earlier."

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He had his defense and a made up "tuck rule" carry him his first few seasons.

It's just a matter of time for Patrick Mahomes II to become the GOAT. Everybody in the country knows this except Patriot fans.

[2112]

God I hope the Rams win next week

[FloridaMan88]

I understand. Too many words. Maybe this is better.

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And when Brady retires and your immediate future is Brian Hoyer at QB you will no longer post on here.

You have already confirmed that.

[Amnorix]

You have already confirmed that.


I did? When?

I joined before the Patriots were a dynasty. Heck, they were coming off a 9-7 season (2002) after winning the 2001 SB. What makes you think I'm only here because the Patriots have been good?

[FloridaMan88]

I did? When?

I joined before the Patriots were a dynasty. Heck, they were coming off a 9-7 season (2002) after winning the 2001 SB. What makes you think I'm only here because the Patriots have been good?

Your join date of 2003 was during the Brady/Belichick era after they had already won a Super Bowl.

You need to show up and post here with the same hubris that you do now (i.e. posting a rambling 10,000 word sermon reeking of Faketriot Way diarrhea), when Brady retires and your immediate future is Brian Hoyer.

Until then the jury is out.

[GloryDayz]

God I hope the Rams win next week

I think I'm going to make an Account on Pats Planet in case they do.

Those terrorist loving fucks!

[Amnorix]

Your join date of 2003 was during the Brady/Belichick era after they had already won a Super Bowl.

You need to show up and post here with the same hubris that you do now (i.e. posting a rambling 10,000 word sermon reeking of Faketriot Way diarrhea), when Brady retires and your immediate future is Brian Hoyer.

Until then the jury is out.


Your post is bizarre. I'll be sure to keep it in mind that my internet surfing/posting habits are subject to your review and approval at all times.

[Amnorix]

Those terrorist loving fucks!

WTF is wrong with you?

[GloryDayz]

WTF is wrong with you?

You don't know history? DUDE, seriously.

[Amnorix]

You don't know history? DUDE, seriously.


Let's see, a jury here in Massachusetts sentence Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to fucking death. That seems pretty contrary to your point, and I'm not aware of any history that shows we are "terrorist loving fucks."

[stevegroganfan]

My unsolicited (and no doubt unwanted) thoughts on an amazing AFCCG

1. First, amazing game. Put aside the rooting interest and the result, and that was one hell of a crazy, entertaining football game, with multiple lead changes and more drama than any damn reality show has to fake create. The game earned the highest TV ratings of any show since last year's Super Bowl, and it delivered. A Patriots beat guy tweeted that the game was "bananapants" with about four minutes left to play, which was before like two touchdowns, a FG, a couple of replay reviews, and an overtime!

2. As Chiefs fans, it looks to me like you have some great years ahead of you to look forward to. Mahomes is obviously the real deal, though still raw, and you have him on an underpaid contract for two more years I understand. Huge competitive advantage. Hill and Kelce are rare talents. Your OLine could be better, though, and your defense. Well, I don't need to say much there.

3. If it helps, think of it this way -- it took the GOAT coach and GOAT QB overtime to beat you even though (1) the Patriots had few penalties, and the team overall played very disciplined all game, (2) the Chiefs defense just sucks right now, (3) Patriots somehow held the Chiefs scoreless in the first half, (4) the Pats kept Hill/Kelce to under 100 yards total, (5) the Chiefs running game was shut down, and (6) the Patriots successfully played "keep away" from the Chiefs offense for most of the game, running about 2 plays on offense for every 1 the Chiefs had. I mean, it's ridiculous how much effort that took. IMHO, the fact that the Patriots KNEW the Chiefs had a hell of a team is proven by Brady's over the top joyous reaction to winning. He's the ultimate "been there, done that" guy and he still acted like a rookie who had won the championship itself when they won.

4. IMHO Belichick and the Patriots coaches won this game far more than any individual player on the Patriots side. I thought Brady was unexceptional most of the game -- but the Patriots game plan was outstanding, on all sides of the ball. Keep away on offense by pounding the ball relentlessly and chewing up clock. Demoralizing/tiring the Chiefs defense. Not allowing the Chiefs offense to get into a rhythm. Good pass rush which kept Mahomes in the pocket, generated pressure, but didn't allow Mahomes to scramble where he is so ridiculously dangerous. It was honestly a thing of beauty as a game plan, in my opinion. It's a great demonstration of why Belichick is the GOAT coach.

5. The Chiefs OLine didn't look good at all. The Patriots completely shut down the run, and were able to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's not surprising for the Patriots OLine, which is excellent, but for the Chiefs OLine to be that poor is troubling. Not sure what is up there as I haven't seen many Chiefs games, but if that's a trend you should be concerned. Mahomes style of play is higher risk than you'd like, and keeping him safe should be a high priority.

6. Mahomes is obviously going to be a great one, if he isn't already, but he's still young. He failed to recognize a number of things the Patriots had going on, such as the McCourty blitz. When a safety who is usually playing deep is cheating near the line, that's a signal. He also needs to work his reads/progressions faster. But he's a freaking first year QB. His 50 TDs were "inflated" due to his ridiculous support at the skill positions, but that crap doesn't happen by accident, and we all know most QBs would not have gotten anywhere near 50 TDs even with that talent. Hell, Mahomes' arm and Hill's speed are a match made in heaven for you guys, and a combo that could power you to great heights.

7. I stayed silent during the week building up to the game, but I never did understand how so many Chiefs fans thought they would completely blow the Patriots off the field. I know their year has been one of ups and downs, but if you've watched the NFL over the last two decades, you should've known the Patriots weren't going to come in and roll over for you guys the way the limp-ass, young, inexperienced Colts did. Hell, if it wasn't for the "Miracle in Miami" that game would've been in Foxboro instead of Arrowhead. A tip for the future -- learned the hard way -- NEVER underestimate your opponent. If the 2007 Patriots could lose to the freaking 9-7 Giants, then "any given Sunday" is an absolute reality, and not just a pithy phrase.

8. I have to end with a comment on the many Cheatriots comments. They are sad. When the Patriots keep winning just as relentlessly after these ridiculous scandals as before, what does that tell you about whether or not these scandals made any sense at all? Apparently some want to believe the Patriots just have other ways of cheating to keep on winning, or that they can blame the weak AFC East. Neither makes any sense. The fact is you lost to the greatest dynasty in NFL history, the GOAT coach and GOAT QB, and while they might be in decline, they certainly ain't dead yet, as they proved yet again.

Good luck next year. May we meet again in the AFCCG, with an equally entertaining game and the same result!! :D

Patriots fan here who strongly disagrees with you on Brady's performance. I would rate his performance an A and it was still a strong performance before 4th quarter. It would have been an A+ without that end zone pick that probably cost the Patriots 3 points.

I think folks are wrong in thinking Brady had anything less than one of his better games throwing the ball vs the Chiefs in terms of throwing accuracy. Some times excellent accuracy given the circumstances can still lead to INTs when the QB is making super quick decisions most of the time.

30-46 is pretty darn good considering many pass attempts were intermediate range, several short passes contested and a few long passes thrown in there.

Let's dig into numbers deeper.

1) At least 6 catchable passes were dropped(Hogan, Gronk, White, Edelman, Patterson twice) but at least one of those(Patterson) was highly contested so I credit Chiefs D.
2) At least one pass batted down at line of scrimmage.
3) At least 5 passes were actually intentional throw aways like on the flea flicker to avoid sacks/fumbles since a pass rushers had beaten his man or wide receivers all covered. With his peripheral vision, Brady was great at recognizing when his offensive lineman were beat and he just threw it away where he couldn't be flagged for intentional grounding but no one could catch it.
4) The first Brady INT was probably thrown exactly where he wanted to throw the ball but the Chiefs defender played it smart and Brady thought he had fallen for the run. The zero sacks stat very misleading....Chiefs pass rush was excellent throughout most of the game. That actually didn't let them down. I do think they got gashed a little too much at times vs the run to open the game but they adjusted and even played the run better.

On the other hand, that Hogan one handed catch was such a great catch that I think of it as an incompletion/inaccurate throw since normally that is an incompletion. Given KC challenged most -- not all -- short passes to the backs, I think the notion that Brady was inaccurate is just way off base.

Adding this all up, I think Brady only threw around 4 passes or so in the entire game that didn't go where he intended them to go.

Chiefs offense let them down a little bit in first half in my opinion. Given it is Mahomes first post season, I gotta blame Reid for not anticipating what the Patriots were going to do defensively and coming up with plays more likely to get first downs. Chiefs should have had 7 points at half without Mahomes overthrow and I just don't see that as a good enough first half offensively for them given they were at home.

Other than 5-6 plays, Chiefs defense was very good vs the Patriots until OT -- this is taking into account how accurate Brady was and potency of New England offense. It is fair to say, they forced 3 turnovers. 2 Brady picks and 1 4th down stop. Even though the Edelman ball was tipped and should have been caught by Edelman, Chiefs defense overall contested enough short throws that it was likely for one of them to be tipped and intercepted sooner or later. Easy to see why it is so hard to normally put up 30+ point in Arrowhead.

The Chiefs were a little lucky that they didn't have a turnover themselves on a Mahomes fumble(which he did), interception etc.

Due to a lot of respect for Chiefs pass rush, Brady was getting rid of the ball quick. If he saw the rush was coming from his peripheral vision sooner than normal, he got rid of it even quicker. I would have moved up the safeties and risked a huge 35 yard gain of Edelman going deep or even a game ending touchdown to an outside receiver rather than allowed the Patriots to methodically march up the field in OT.

Going into the game, if Reid was told Patriots offense would get tons of yards but trick Brady once into a goal line interception, defend well enough to get an interception off of a tipped ball and almost get one more and stop them on 4th down once, I think he would have taken it. Brilliant passing by Brady on third down saved the Patriots. Chiefs capitalizing on all of their scoring chances but one is what kept the game close.

So I think everyone is getting this narrative of this particular game a little wrong. Chiefs offense play design/execution hurt them in the first half. And I think Reid made a mistake calling timeout when Patriots had it I believe 3rd and 5. If they had it 3rd and 10, it makes sense to take that gamble but with 3rd and 5, I would have been happy to go into halftime losing 7-0. And make adjustments.

As for the refs, besides the pick play, I thought KC got away with many holds vs Patriots receivers and a pass interference vs Dorsett -- who scored anyways -- that should have been called and that were more egregious than what Patriots called for. On the other hand, the roughing the passer seemed like a bad call.

I do think Kareem Hunt could have made a serious difference in this game for KC so they may want to pick up another running back like him. His replacement did very well but Chiefs could have used Hunt to take pressure off of their long range passing game.

Chiefs have a great shot to win Super Bowl over the next 2 years before Mahomes gets a market rate contract so it will be interesting to see the moves they make.

[Amnorix]

Patriots fan here who strongly disagrees with you on Brady's performance. I would rate his performance an A and it was still a strong performance before 4th quarter. It would have been an A+ without that end zone pick that probably cost the Patriots 3 points.

I'm also a Patriots fan. If Brady's performance in that game was an A, what was it in last year's Super Bowl?

The two picks (including the Ford offsides pick) other than the EZ one were off receiver's hands, but they were just not great throws. The EZ pick was flat fucking horrible. Throw it a little higher/deeper and he's got Gronk. He clearly didn't see the guy who picked it off.

His play in OT was an A. Before that -- not remotely close.

I think folks are wrong in thinking Brady had anything less than one of his better games throwing the ball vs the Chiefs in terms of throwing accuracy. Some times excellent accuracy given the circumstances can still lead to INTs when the QB is making super quick decisions most of the time.

No. Just...no. Those two throws off Edelman's and, especially, Gronk's (thank god for offsides) were not great. They weren't ridiculously bad, but they weren't great.

The game was over 60 minutes long. The last, whatever, five minutes he earned an A. Before that, I very much doubt he'd score it an A himself, nor would BB. I didn't think his ball placement was good, and he had too many seriously bad plays -- especially where he usually had a clean pocket.

[MahiMike]

I hear you. It's just a foreign concept for me to want to "hang out" with other teams fans on their fan boards, win/lose/tie/whatever.

That's all I'm trying to understand...

I've never understood it either. Guess he likes hanging out with non-Bostonians.

[Amnorix]

I've never understood it either. Guess he likes hanging out with non-Bostonians.


Mainly I prefer the different perspectives. Fan boards tend to become circle jerks of everyone thinking lockstep, or arguing over ridiculous crap that I could not care less about. Unfortunately, due to the ridiculous run of success, this board is now largely a circle jerk of "Cheatriots" and such, rather than some degree of objective/unbiased viewpoints. I didn't join some other AFC East team board to avoid that, because obviously that is what I would've gotten there.

:shrug:

I also originally joined mainly for political talk, and it was far more active here than on Patriots boards, and more conservative. This was before the creation of the DC subforum. I preferred to cross swords with conservatives rather than have -- yet again -- a liberal circle jerk. Over the years I've gotten somewhat less liberal, but the level of intelligence in the DC forum has fallen as guys like KC Wolfman, KC Titus, Logical and others have left or greatly reduced their post rate, with few/no replacements of similar quality. Now, reflecting broader trends in American politics, it's become something of a battle of extremists at the far ends of the spectrum. As a result I post there far less than I used to.

[GloryDayz]

Let's see, a jury here in Massachusetts sentence Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to fucking death. That seems pretty contrary to your point, and I'm not aware of any history that shows we are "terrorist loving fucks."

You're a homer, that's why... Fuck Boston!

[Best22]

I don’t care about the Patriots like other fans do

All winning afc teams (97-98 Broncos, 70s Raiders, Steelers, 01-03 Patriots) cheat

KC should’ve been better

[GloryDayz]

I don’t care about the Patriots like other fans do

All winning afc teams (97-98 Broncos, 70s Raiders, Steelers, 01-03 Patriots) cheat

KC should’ve been better

I am on record of thinking our cheating is WAAAAAY subpar...

[Amnorix]

You're a homer, that's why... Fuck Boston!


Great argument. I'm totally convinced!


:p

[stevegroganfan]

Your team has ruined the NFL for a generation of fans. Congrats.

Patriots went around 10 years during Brady's career without winning a title so they are not a dynasty but just have surpassed what the Niners did. Sure the Patriots made the Super Bowl as favorites two of those years but they still didn't win it.

In my opinion, the dislike of everything Trump is somewhat equivalent to the dislike of everything Patriots. I can see fans during two periods getting super sick of Patriots in Super Bowl but unless you are a Dolphins/Jets/Bills fan and perhaps around 30 years old and under, the Patriots really haven't ruined much.

Steelers twice, Baltimore, Colts, Broncos, Rams, Giants twice, Eagles, Seahawks, Green Bay, New Orleans have all won Super Bowl titles since Patriots won their first Super Bowl. Patriots only have 5 Super Bowl titles with Brady which is the same the Niners got with Montana/Young and less than what Michael Jordan won with the Bulls. Admittedly, I despised Montana/Niners but I never felt they dominated so much that they ruined football and prevented other teams outside of their division at least from winning and having very good seasons.

If there is any sort of dislike towards a Boston sports team by folks under 35, it should be directed against Red Sox teams since what teams like the Yankees/Red Sox and to a lesser extend Dodgers (they haven't won but they have spent a ton at times) has in large part ruined baseball for most teams that can't spend around league average or above.

A team like the Baltimore Orioles had a really nice baseball tradition but since they are in the same division as the Red Sox and Yankees, deck stacked against them. Tampa Bay usually has deck stacked heavily against them as well.

NFL is obviously different with salary cap. Teams should be copying more of what Patriots do which really comes down to wisely managing the cap and valuing roster depth over having tons of high priced stars. Hard for Jets/Dolphins/Bills to compete in same division without a very good QB but literally every other NFL team doesn't have that excuse.

[FloridaMan88]

Your post is bizarre. I'll be sure to keep it in mind that my internet surfing/posting habits are subject to your review and approval at all times.

ROFL is it really that difficult for you to commit to posting on here with your same arrogance/hubris after Brady retires and the Faketriots become a perennial 6-10/7-9 team?

That's the only way to prove you are not a bandwagoning fraud.