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ShowtimeSBMVP
03-13-2019, 03:37 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a> CB Ronald Darby is expected to visit the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> tonight. If all goes well, he could sign considering the serious interest.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1105945571909611520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr_Tomahawk
03-13-2019, 03:37 PM
Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

Source: #Eagles CB Ronald Darby is expected to visit the #Chiefs tonight. If all goes well, he could sign considering the serious interest.

Dante84
03-13-2019, 03:37 PM
Tonight

Skyy God
03-13-2019, 03:38 PM
For a Darby party??

seaofred
03-13-2019, 03:38 PM
Alright, CP. Tell me about him.

Kiimo
03-13-2019, 03:40 PM
He's not great.

thabear04
03-13-2019, 03:40 PM
Bills fans were saying he should won Rookie of the year and not Peters.

ptlyon
03-13-2019, 03:40 PM
Terrence Trent's brother

O.city
03-13-2019, 03:41 PM
He's young atleast? I dunno, that's a big injury risk imo

Chiefspants
03-13-2019, 03:41 PM
Tons of talent but more importantly only 25. Sean Smith like potential for blossoming even though he has a completely different skill set.

BradBigglestein
03-13-2019, 03:41 PM
Ronald Darby is a talented, but inconsistent CB and has battled injuries. Dislocated his ankle in 2017. Tore his ACL in 2018.

His strength is closing and makeup speed. He could recover in coverage if his technique wasn't the best. Good at breaking on passes as he has a good first step to close.

He is a poor tackler. He can bite in coverage sometimes.

I wonder if the ACL will affect his speed(his best attribute).

Decent ball skills.

Short summary.

BossChief
03-13-2019, 03:42 PM
Missed like 15 games the last 2 years

TLO
03-13-2019, 03:42 PM
DARBY DARBY DARBY!

TLO
03-13-2019, 03:43 PM
DARBY

Kiimo
03-13-2019, 03:44 PM
He is a poor tackler. He can bite in coverage sometimes.


These are the things I remember

RollChiefsRoll
03-13-2019, 03:44 PM
Missed like 15 games the last 2 years

Would you say he's...

























































day to day?

TLO
03-13-2019, 03:45 PM
DARBY

Beef Supreme
03-13-2019, 03:45 PM
It's complicated.

BleedingRed
03-13-2019, 03:45 PM
He is pretty fucking good, injuries tho

TwistedChief
03-13-2019, 03:45 PM
Missed like 15 games the last 2 years

So we’re looking at an Eric Berry upgrade? I love your optimism regarding our secondary.

Imon Yourside
03-13-2019, 03:46 PM
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King_Chief_Fan
03-13-2019, 03:47 PM
Another rehab project that Reid will comment everypresser....Ron is doing fine, making progress. He is day to day.
NO THANKS....draft one a and hope for the best.

threebag
03-13-2019, 03:47 PM
Hopefully he tackles

Naptown Chief
03-13-2019, 03:49 PM
Oh sheeeeet

BradBigglestein
03-13-2019, 03:49 PM
If you want to look up game film, his best games as an Eagle were: Eagles @ Cowboys 2017, Raiders @ Eagles 2017. Falcons @ Eagles, Vikings @ Eagles playoff games in 2017-18.

Don't look up any games vs the Giants though, those were his worst games by far.

suzzer99
03-13-2019, 03:50 PM
Move to rename forum to Darby Lounge.

TribalElder
03-13-2019, 03:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/vkZGrqa.jpg

Beef Supreme
03-13-2019, 03:54 PM
I loved when he sang that song "Wishin' Well."

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 03:55 PM
Veach will give him like 14m per if he keeps the pace of his other mentally challenged decisions.

TribalElder
03-13-2019, 03:55 PM
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/55184718/5-bucks-is-the-best-i-can-do.jpg

Beef Supreme
03-13-2019, 03:57 PM
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/55184718/5-bucks-is-the-best-i-can-do.jpg

I got a buddy who knows all about cornerbacks...

Clyde Frog
03-13-2019, 03:58 PM
I loved when he sang that song "Wishin' Well."

Sweetly, Softly...

TribalElder
03-13-2019, 03:58 PM
I got a buddy who knows all about cornerbacks...

ROFL that is awesome LMAO

okiedokieokoye
03-13-2019, 04:01 PM
PFF grade was lower than Nelson's. About the same grade as Fuller though.

comochiefsfan
03-13-2019, 04:03 PM
Pass.

We can do better.

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 04:03 PM
Lets cut all of our injury prone players taking dead money hits in the process, trade the most productive player on the defense in 2018. Then overpay a bunch of injury prone players.

#Winning #SuperBowl

Chief Northman
03-13-2019, 04:04 PM
EJ Gaines 2.0

Skills, but fragile.

okiedokieokoye
03-13-2019, 04:04 PM
Tons of sites had him as the #1 free agent corner in the class. We could do worse if the price is right. I think we're signing him.

chiefzilla1501
03-13-2019, 04:05 PM
I don't care if someone like Darby gets a decent sized contract. He may be an injury risk. Just cut out the guarantees, add injury incentives, and hopefully his injury history is somewhat priced into the contract.

We aren't looking for the future of our defense. We're looking for stopgaps and all those either come at the expense of performance or injury risk.

chiefzilla1501
03-13-2019, 04:07 PM
Lets cut all of our injury prone players taking dead money hits in the process, trade the most productive player on the defense in 2018. Then overpay a bunch of injury prone players.

#Winning #SuperBowl

What injury prone player has veach signed to a dead money deal? We overpaid Watkins and honey Badger so we aren't hamstrung long term like we were with Houston and berry to long term deals.

kysirsoze
03-13-2019, 04:08 PM
I could see a high number for a few years, sorta like TM. Paying a premium for production while limiting long term risk so we can afford PM, Hill and Jones. Now that we have all this room, I'd be into it.

Marco Polo
03-13-2019, 04:10 PM
Nelson got 3/25.5. Hopefully not too much more than that. Just read in two separate articles that Darby is the #1 CB in the class.

Warrick
03-13-2019, 04:11 PM
I'm good with giving him a 1 year prove it deal, he's going to have a down year after the ACL injury... Whatever the Chiefs do, please don't give this injury prone player big time money right out of the gate.

O.city
03-13-2019, 04:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Re: Darby visit for Chiefs - primary concern is obviously ACL surgery after injury last season (wk 10). That would put him at approx 4 months out and in the middle of rehab for this injury currently. Things that any team will consider are ..<a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadPride</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Borgmann (@RehabAllStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/RehabAllStar/status/1105952141984841730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">joint integrity, condition of internal knee structures, pace/progress of rehab, obviously strength of lower body, is player running/cutting well at this point, has player begun plyometric progression, etc...<a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadPride</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Borgmann (@RehabAllStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/RehabAllStar/status/1105952144119746560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fortunately for player, his timeline for complete recovery for this surgery if all has been going well puts him in a good spot for participation in camp, potentially even limited in OTAs/Mini Camp if everything continues to go well. <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadPride</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Borgmann (@RehabAllStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/RehabAllStar/status/1105952145197666306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Any team will scrutinize this player with diagnositic imaging as well as functional testing to determine if they feel he is in a good spot for continued progress and recovery. <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadPride</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Borgmann (@RehabAllStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/RehabAllStar/status/1105952147110350855?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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KCUnited
03-13-2019, 04:13 PM
I trust the Chiefs medical staff to get this one right.

Tribal Warfare
03-13-2019, 04:13 PM
Tonight

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b9/b90bb687d42c2f6477271fc2a5ee543701ed160240fc950d4b45afa53cf0fa56.jpg

comochiefsfan
03-13-2019, 04:14 PM
I trust the Chiefs medical staff to get this one right.

Sarcasm?

kysirsoze
03-13-2019, 04:14 PM
I trust the Chiefs medical staff to get this one right.

LMAO

Skyy God
03-13-2019, 04:15 PM
I trust the Chiefs medical staff to get this one right.

Most critically, does he have Hagulunds of the knee??

Sassy Squatch
03-13-2019, 04:18 PM
I trust the Chiefs medical staff to get this one right.
Day to day.

KCUnited
03-13-2019, 04:20 PM
Leaked footage of the examination.

https://i.imgur.com/JEf8H2j.gif

Hoover
03-13-2019, 04:20 PM
Missed like 15 games the last 2 years

Should get a deal then.

Bump
03-13-2019, 04:23 PM
don't want to break the bank if he's just coming off of a big injury...

If the price is reasonable than that's cool.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-13-2019, 04:25 PM
No more then 8 mil a year. If he pays 12-14 I’d rather have Vince Agnew back.

BlackOp
03-13-2019, 04:26 PM
So this CB tore his ACL around 4 months ago...and KC is bringing him? Sounds solid..

Otter
03-13-2019, 04:26 PM
Alright, CP. Tell me about him.

His favorite color is blue, he likes long walks on the beach while holding hands, late night scary movies and seasoned salt on his popcorn. He dislikes snarky people, close talkers, and people who throw their cigarette butts on the sidewalk.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 04:27 PM
No more then 8 mil a year. If he pays 12-14 I’d rather have Vince Agnew back.

On that note, they should absolutely sign him.

Sassy Squatch
03-13-2019, 04:28 PM
If Nelson would just stop holding and turn his goddamn head once in a blue moon...

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-13-2019, 04:29 PM
If Nelson would just stop holding and turn his goddamn head once in a blue moon...

Reminds me of Phillip Gaines

Easy 6
03-13-2019, 04:33 PM
Terrence Trent's brother

Veach is trying his luck at the Wishing Well

Oh well shit, Beef beat me to it

srvy
03-13-2019, 04:37 PM
Hopefully he tackles

He doesnt.

KChiefs1
03-13-2019, 04:39 PM
I’d rather trade for PP.

Dante84
03-13-2019, 04:41 PM
My close friend is a diehard Eagles fan. I asked his opinion and he said:

“Really fast, decent in coverage, terrible at tackling.”

siberian khatru
03-13-2019, 04:45 PM
Tonight

Tonight, tonight, ooh-oooooooh!

old_geezer
03-13-2019, 04:45 PM
My close friend is a diehard Eagles fan. I asked his opinion and he said:

“Really fast, decent in coverage, terrible at tackling.”

He'll fit right in.

Randallflagg
03-13-2019, 04:46 PM
I believe that Darby was already spotted in Leawood - House hunting...or maybe not.. ROFL

ILChief
03-13-2019, 04:46 PM
I’d rather trade for PP.

I’d take both

TwistedChief
03-13-2019, 04:47 PM
So this CB tore his ACL around 4 months ago...and KC is bringing him? Sounds solid..

Roger Goodell has mandated that the Masons and Jesuits jointly hold Andy Reid’s neice’s neighbor’s drycleaner hostage until we sign Darby.

It’ll all make itself clear on week 15 of 2022... best be ready.

nychief
03-13-2019, 04:48 PM
They were talking about this guy getting 13 million a year... and he is 4 months out of an ACL... I don't fucking get it.

ljmhawk
03-13-2019, 04:48 PM
so far with the moves made on the defense i would say there will not be a Super Bowl in 2019. we have gotten worse on that side of the ball nd then they are bringing in an often injured non tackler? no thanks

comochiefsfan
03-13-2019, 04:52 PM
so far with the moves made on the defense i would say there will not be a Super Bowl in 2019. we have gotten worse on that side of the ball nd then they are bringing in an often injured non tackler? no thanks

Yep. I was on board with releasing all the old guys on defense with the expectation that Veach would be aggressive in replacing them with better players. The fact that that hasn't happened is extremely disappointing.

chiefzilla1501
03-13-2019, 04:52 PM
So this CB tore his ACL around 4 months ago...and KC is bringing him? Sounds solid..

It will take a while for people to get used to what we're doing. We're done bringing in expensive older superstars on defense to long term deals. We are signing lots of proven vets to short term deals with easy opt outs. Then we'll use the draft to find their replacement. Our defense needs to learn to be average at lower cost.

Expect a lot of overpaid short term contracts. They may seem expensive on the surface. But the flexibility to bail out of them is huge.

arrwheader
03-13-2019, 04:59 PM
so far with the moves made on the defense i would say there will not be a Super Bowl in 2019. we have gotten worse on that side of the ball nd then they are bringing in an often injured non tackler? no thanks



Tired of hearing this shit. We were in the AFCCG with a 31 ranked defense LOL. We improve to MEDIOCRE and we are still favorites.

Browns yada yada Raiders yada yada.

They don’t have Mahomes and they don’t have Reid.

People need to fuck right off with this shit. What did you want them to do? Keep this shit hole D in tact? Have Berry and his spirit on the sidelines?

CoMoChief
03-13-2019, 04:59 PM
They were talking about this guy getting 13 million a year... and he is 4 months out of an ACL... I don't fucking get it.

fuuuuck that.

Wish the Chiefs would make a trade for Jalen Ramsey, although JAX probably thinks they're in the hunt now that Foles is taking over the shitfest that was Blake Bortles.

staylor26
03-13-2019, 05:00 PM
My close friend is a diehard Eagles fan. I asked his opinion and he said:

“Really fast, decent in coverage, terrible at tackling.”

He’s much better than “decent” in coverage.

CoMoChief
03-13-2019, 05:01 PM
Tired of hearing this shit. We were in the AFCCG with a 31 ranked defense LOL. We improve to MEDIOCRE and we are still favorites.

Brows yada yada Raiders yada yada.

They don’t have Mahomes and they don’t have Reid.

People need to fuck right off with this shit. What did you want them to do? Keep this shit hole D in tact? Have Berry and his spirit on the sidelines?

Not sure what this means...other than meaning the Chiefs will choke away their SB hopes in the postseason.

htismaqe
03-13-2019, 05:01 PM
Yep. I was on board with releasing all the old guys on defense with the expectation that Veach would be aggressive in replacing them with better players. The fact that that hasn't happened is extremely disappointing.

Free agency officially started 3 hours ago. :facepalm:

arrwheader
03-13-2019, 05:02 PM
Not sure what this means...other than meaning the Chiefs will choke away their SB hopes in the postseason.



Haha well that argument could be made. However, the linking of the two clearly is a big advantage.

htismaqe
03-13-2019, 05:02 PM
They were talking about this guy getting 13 million a year... and he is 4 months out of an ACL... I don't fucking get it.

The projections for corners were high. Nelson got $4M per year less than was projected. Darby probably goes for 9-10M per.

Conversely, the projections for safeties were WAY low. It changes the approach pretty significantly.

ILChief
03-13-2019, 05:02 PM
Tired of hearing this shit. We were in the AFCCG with a 31 ranked defense LOL. We improve to MEDIOCRE and we are still favorites.

Browns yada yada Raiders yada yada.

They don’t have Mahomes and they don’t have Reid.

People need to fuck right off with this shit. What did you want them to do? Keep this shit hole D in tact? Have Berry and his spirit on the sidelines?

I agree. Do people want us devoting 50-60 million cap space to two broken down guys and a one year wonder?

arrwheader
03-13-2019, 05:05 PM
I agree. Do people want us devoting 50-60 million cap space to two broken down guys and a one year wonder?



Exactly. We scored 50 mother fucking points in a game AND STILL FUCKING LOST.

Really actually let that sink in. Think about that. Everyone of those assholes deserved to be shipped the fuck out after that.

chiefzilla1501
03-13-2019, 05:05 PM
Yep. I was on board with releasing all the old guys on defense with the expectation that Veach would be aggressive in replacing them with better players. The fact that that hasn't happened is extremely disappointing.

We've cut 3 good players (though it's hard to count Berry anymore because he doesn't see the field). In the process freeing up something like $38M. Chiefs have so far signed Matthieu, Quartey Jones, Damien Wilson to what I'm guessing is < $18M. I'd bet Darby puts us at about $30M so still $8M to spare.

We're going to add a lot of players on D. All young, and we won't be handcuffed to any of them.

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 05:11 PM
Tired of hearing this shit. We were in the AFCCG with a 31 ranked defense LOL. We improve to MEDIOCRE and we are still favorites.

Browns yada yada Raiders yada yada.

They don’t have Mahomes and they don’t have Reid.

People need to **** right off with this shit. What did you want them to do? Keep this shit hole D in tact? Have Berry and his spirit on the sidelines?

Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.

Tanoh Kpass and Breeland Speaks are our staring DEs rn. There is nobody in this FA class or draft that is going to replace Ford and Houstons production in 2019, a must win year for us.

CasselGotPeedOn
03-13-2019, 05:13 PM
Yep. I was on board with releasing all the old guys on defense with the expectation that Veach would be aggressive in replacing them with better players. The fact that that hasn't happened is extremely disappointing.

There's no way your parents weren't relatives.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 05:14 PM
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.

Tanoh Kpass and Breeland Speaks are our staring DEs rn. There is nobody in this FA class or draft that is going to replace Ford and Houstons production in 2019, a must win year for us.

They don’t have to replace their production. They have to upgrade the team production.

A big part of being a good NFL defense is having a unit that trusts each other to do their jobs and focuses on that individually. They also need to play with a certain fire and intensity. That’s what they’re working to build. Let’s see where they’re at with the roster come May.

arrwheader
03-13-2019, 05:15 PM
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.



Tanoh Kpass and Breeland Speaks are our staring DEs rn. There is nobody in this FA class or draft that is going to replace Ford and Houstons production in 2019, a must win year for us.



Ford was suspect, in a contract year and had one good year and the rest meh to worse. Houston just wasn’t worth the money. Also there must have been other things there the new staff doesn’t like.

Have faith. Let’s see what happens and talk about during the season. See how the draft goes and what other trades/ acquisitions we make before camp. I bet most that feel bad about this are feeling a lot better then.

htismaqe
03-13-2019, 05:15 PM
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.

Would you have traded him after 4 years and a paltry 17.5 sacks? Because that's where he was at before his magical season.

To think he can just repeat 2018 like snapping his fingers...well quite frankly, I really don't understand how anyone could believe that.

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 05:17 PM
They don’t have to replace their production. They have to upgrade the team production.

A big part of being a good NFL defense is having a unit that trusts each other to do their jobs and focuses on that individually. They also need to play with a certain fire and intensity. That’s what they’re working to build. Let’s see where they’re at with the roster come May.

and it will no doubt improve with the change of Sutton to Spags alone. However, how can trading a top 10 pass rusher in the league then signing an injury prone shitty CB with close to the same money possibly make us better?

DenverChief
03-13-2019, 05:19 PM
Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.


Two different positions, our weaknesses were in the secondary, not the pass rush....as mentioned by Andy, the speed of the passing game makes edge rushers almost obsolete. The pass rush of the future comes from the interior line (faster path to QB).

htismaqe
03-13-2019, 05:20 PM
and it will no doubt improve with the change of Sutton to Spags alone. However, how can trading a top 10 pass rusher in the league then signing an injury prone shitty CB with close to the same money possibly make us better?

Ford is not a top 10 pass rusher. He had one great year, that's it. He's also injury prone.

As to your question, it really doesn't. Then again Darby isn't shitty, he's actually quite good. The question is whether or not he can stay healthy. If I were GM, I wouldn't sign him but that's just me.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 05:20 PM
and it will no doubt improve with the change of Sutton to Spags alone. However, how can trading a top 10 pass rusher in the league then signing an injury prone shitty CB with close to the same money possibly make us better?

He’s not shitty tho. Far from it. Darby has #1 CB potential and has played at that level before.

bricks
03-13-2019, 05:22 PM
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.

Tanoh Kpass and Breeland Speaks are our staring DEs rn. There is nobody in this FA class or draft that is going to replace Ford and Houstons production in 2019, a must win year for us.

They’re gonna generate pressure from everywhere. Spags gonna turn them loose woooooooo! ;)

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 05:25 PM
Ford is not a top 10 pass rusher. He had one great year, that's it. He's also injury prone.

As to your question, it really doesn't. Then again Darby isn't shitty, he's actually quite good. The question is whether or not he can stay healthy. If I were GM, I wouldn't sign him but that's just me.

He had 10 sacks in 2016. Was hurt in 2017. Then had 13 sacks in 2018.

He's showed consistent production. Really wild to me that this board would rather have Ronald Darby than Dee Ford.

Honestly mind blowing.

dannybcaitlyn
03-13-2019, 05:25 PM
He’s not shitty tho. Far from it. Darby has #1 CB potential and has played at that level before.

Yup, Baller When healthy. If it weren’t for Peters making all them picks his rookie year, Darby May have been considered the best cornerback out of that class.

Iconic
03-13-2019, 05:28 PM
If he's cheap sure, otherwise you could literally get David Long in the 2nd and get Darby 2.0 without the injured labia.

htismaqe
03-13-2019, 05:28 PM
He had 10 sacks in 2016. Was hurt in 2017. Then had 13 sacks in 2018.

He's showed consistent production. Really wild to me that this board would rather have Ronald Darby than Dee Ford.

Honestly mind blowing.

I don't want either one of them.

You can't just say "he was hurt in 2017" and gloss over the fact that he's been hurt consistently going all the way back to college. He's had back surgery twice - he's had a spinal discectomy to remove bulging discs from his back. His back is not ever going to be the same. It might not hurt but he's actually missing tissue between the vertebrae that absorbs shock. Putting his hand in the dirt and engaging offensive linemen up close might actually re-aggravate it.

It's not worth the risk, especially not at the amount of money that got thrown around.

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 05:28 PM
Two different positions, our weaknesses were in the secondary, not the pass rush....as mentioned by Andy, the speed of the passing game makes edge rushers almost obsolete. The pass rush of the future comes from the interior line (faster path to QB).

These things are not mutually exclusive. Deion Sanders isn't going to be able to cover for long enough for Breeland Speaks running like grimmace from the mcdonalds commercials to get to the QB.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 05:30 PM
These things are not mutually exclusive. Deion Sanders isn't going to be able to cover for long enough for Breeland Speaks running like grimmace from the mcdonalds commercials to get to the QB.

Good thing we’ll be sending blitzes or at least disguising the fronts a lot.

Again, this defense is far less reliant on players winning matchups by themselves up front.

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 05:31 PM
I don't want either one of them.

You can't just say "he was hurt in 2017" and gloss over the fact that he's been hurt consistently going all the way back to college. He's had back surgery twice - he's had a spinal discectomy to remove bulging discs from his back. His back is not ever going to be the same. It might not hurt but he's actually missing tissue between the vertebrae that absorbs shock. Putting his hand in the dirt and engaging offensive linemen up close might actually re-aggravate it.

It's not worth the risk, especially not at the amount of money that got thrown around.

and while you could be right, we are now planning to sign a player who is completely reliant on his speed with a torn acl to a deal close to the same as Ford would have costed.

htismaqe
03-13-2019, 05:33 PM
and while you could be right, we are now planning to sign a player who is completely reliant on his speed with a torn acl to a deal close to the same as Ford would have costed.

Well, I wouldn't do it but they don't ask me before they make moves.

They did the right thing with Ford. If they turn around and use that money on Ronald Darby, I won't like it but there's not much I can do about it.

DenverChief
03-13-2019, 05:33 PM
These things are not mutually exclusive. Deion Sanders isn't going to be able to cover for long enough for Breeland Speaks running like grimmace from the mcdonalds commercials to get to the QB.

Derrick Thomas wouldn't get there before Brady released...Chris Jones can, just need to cover long enough for him to get there (or a blitzer)

Chiefshrink
03-13-2019, 05:34 PM
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.

Tanoh Kpass and Breeland Speaks are our staring DEs rn. There is nobody in this FA class or draft that is going to replace Ford and Houstons production in 2019, a must win year for us.

Our defense was still 31st with Dee's 15.5 sacks. He couldn't stop the run or set the edge and it definitely showed and killed us in the AFCCG as the Pats ground and pounded us all night. And ironically it was Ford who ushered the Pats into their 6th SB victory with his huge mental error in spite of our offense coming back late to take the lead. Your game must be complete NOT PARTIAL. Dee's was only partial and the Niners will soon find this out for sure.

Good Riddance !!;)

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 05:36 PM
Derrick Thomas wouldn't get there before Brady released...Chris Jones can, just need to cover long enough for him to get there (or a blitzer)

Which is why the best defense in the NFL season became the best by trading 2 firsts for an edge rusher right?

Why even have defensive ends, lets just put LBs in and drop 9 every play. This is the new NFL!

bigjosh
03-13-2019, 05:37 PM
Perhaps fords production has a direct correlation with the amount of dropbacks opposing offenses were forced to have.

You know, other teams playing catch up for the entire game will allow the edge rushers to get after it.

Best22
03-13-2019, 05:38 PM
Which is why the best defense in the NFL season became the best by trading 2 firsts for an edge rusher right?

Why even have defensive ends, lets just put LBs in and drop 9 every play. This is the new NFL!

And when Chicago needed him the most, Mack had no sacks and was helpless on the last Eagles drive

Chiefshrink
03-13-2019, 05:41 PM
Perhaps fords production has a direct correlation with the amount of dropbacks opposing offenses were forced to have.

You know, other teams playing catch up for the entire game will allow the edge rushers to get after it.

Excellent point!:thumb:

Mr_Tomahawk
03-13-2019, 05:41 PM
I get it.

But this one bums me out the most...

DenverChief
03-13-2019, 05:41 PM
And when Chicago needed him the most, Mack had no sacks and was helpless on the last Eagles drive

It's like talking to a microwave with popcorn, just when you think you have made your point it pops off back.


C'mon man....i's clear the NFL is evolving. Defensive ends are an important part of the game...just as much as TE's and FB's....but to ignore the fact that the 2.5 second release has diminished their role is just plain ignorance

Best22
03-13-2019, 05:43 PM
It's like talking to a microwave with popcorn, just when you think you have made your point it pops off back.


C'mon man....i's clear the NFL is evolving. Defensive ends are an important part of the game...just as much as TE's and FB's....but to ignore the fact that the 2.5 second release has diminished their role is just plain ignorance

Yep. I’d love to have good edge rushers. They’re important. But in the playoffs, the team with interior pressure got the ring.

We need to be built for the playoffs and be prepared to take down Brady, because the road to the SB always go through that mofo

penchief
03-13-2019, 05:44 PM
Perhaps fords production has a direct correlation with the amount of dropbacks opposing offenses were forced to have.

You know, other teams playing catch up for the entire game will allow the edge rushers to get after it.

This is actually a very good point. If Alex were still the quarterback and we were playing close to the vest I doubt his numbers would have looked nearly as good.

JohnnyHammersticks
03-13-2019, 05:49 PM
Lets cut all of our injury prone players taking dead money hits in the process, trade the most productive player on the defense in 2018. Then overpay a bunch of injury prone players.

#Winning #SuperBowl

Hate speech bothers me far less than idiot speech.

FAX
03-13-2019, 05:53 PM
Yep. I’d love to have good edge rushers. They’re important. But in the playoffs, the team with interior pressure got the ring.

We need to be built for the playoffs and be prepared to take down Brady, because the road to the SB always go through that mofo

Once our front 7 unveils our new Ameoba Swim With Plunger system, the demand for backup QBs will go sky high.

We don't just flush the quarterback, we purge 'em.

FAX

carcosa
03-13-2019, 05:57 PM
Have we signed this motherfucking piece of shit yet??!

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 06:04 PM
It's like talking to a microwave with popcorn, just when you think you have made your point it pops off back.


C'mon man....i's clear the NFL is evolving. Defensive ends are an important part of the game...just as much as TE's and FB's....but to ignore the fact that the 2.5 second release has diminished their role is just plain ignorance

An edge rusher is going to be 2, possibly 3 of the top 5 picks in the draft this year. Why aren’t they taking DTs that high if they’re more important? Comparing the 2nd highest paid and sought after position in the NFL to FBs and TEs is hilarious.

The Bad Guy
03-13-2019, 06:11 PM
Eagle fans I know think he's terrible. I don't understand why they are going down the injured road with anyone they sign.

booger
03-13-2019, 06:13 PM
Wonder what EJ Gaines asking price is

DRM08
03-13-2019, 06:20 PM
Well...he's the proper age at least.

YontsRBake
03-13-2019, 06:22 PM
Perhaps fords production has a direct correlation with the amount of dropbacks opposing offenses were forced to have.

You know, other teams playing catch up for the entire game will allow the edge rushers to get after it.

And you are correct. However this exact same logic can be applied to Chris Jones, who we are by all signs planning to bring out the Brinks truck to pay.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 06:23 PM
Eagle fans I know think he's terrible. I don't understand why they are going down the injured road with anyone they sign.

And that fan is either full of shit or a moron.

DRM08
03-13-2019, 06:26 PM
Yep. I’d love to have good edge rushers. They’re important. But in the playoffs, the team with interior pressure got the ring.

We need to be built for the playoffs and be prepared to take down Brady, because the road to the SB always go through that mofo

You're right for sure. Chiefs also have the luxury to just wait on Brady to retire, kinda like Michael Jordan against the Celtics & Pistons. :D

bigdaddychieffan
03-13-2019, 06:27 PM
Edge rushers are great but interior pressure is where it is at right now. Only problem is they are much harder to find. We have a great one in Jones and we must resign him.

The Bad Guy
03-13-2019, 06:29 PM
And that fan is either full of shit or a moron.

You're arguing he was good for the Eagles?

staylor26
03-13-2019, 06:30 PM
You're arguing he was good for the Eagles?

Outside of injuries? Umm yes.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 06:32 PM
You're arguing he was good for the Eagles?

In 2017 he definitely was, and in 2018 I think he was above average at the very worst.

Chief3188
03-13-2019, 06:34 PM
Perhaps fords production has a direct correlation with the amount of dropbacks opposing offenses were forced to have.

You know, other teams playing catch up for the entire game will allow the edge rushers to get after it.

That is very true and possibly inflated his number by a few sacks but he did still get the pressures and FF's as well. Also are we expecting the number of times a team is going to have to drop back against us to go down with Mahomes and the gang over the next several years?

I am indifferent over this trade but I do know it is hard to find pass rushers as a dumbass Jon Gruden once said after a loss last season and yet here we are? Getting rid of 2 out of 3 of our big pass rushers in one offseason while trying to rebuild a defense to compete for a SB next year might not be the correct way to go about it. Hope Veach makes an idiot out of that line of thinking but it is still in the back of my mind.

bigjosh
03-13-2019, 06:45 PM
And you are correct. However this exact same logic can be applied to Chris Jones, who we are by all signs planning to bring out the Brinks truck to pay.



Thats true too, but i feel lime its alot harder to find good-great interior rushers then it is to find edge guys. Whens the last time prior to jones you can remember we had any pressure over the middle?

Iowanian
03-13-2019, 06:54 PM
If Darby is a young great cover corner.....why would the eagles let him walk.


Red flag for me about any good FA.

His leg sounds more glued together than Ralphy Parker's dads lamp.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 06:56 PM
If Darby is a young great cover corner.....why would the eagles let him walk.


Red flag for me about any good FA.

They don’t have a ton of cash to give. But more significantly, his injuries have happened in Philly. Probably leaves more of a stain on the partnership.

DenverChief
03-13-2019, 06:58 PM
An edge rusher is going to be 2, possibly 3 of the top 5 picks in the draft this year. Why aren’t they taking DTs that high if they’re more important? Comparing the 2nd highest paid and sought after position in the NFL to FBs and TEs is hilarious.

old habits die hard?

Tom Brady (King of quick release and Super Bowl champ) was sacked 22 times last year in 19 games. Let me break it down for you...

Game 1 - Sacked 2x by NT
Game 2 - Sacked 2x by CB and OLB
Game 3 - Sacked 2x by OLB
Game 4 - Sacked 0
Game 5 - Sacked 0
Game 6 - Sacked 2x ILB/OLB and NT
Game 7 - Sacked 1x ILB
Game 8 - Sacked 2x OLB
Game 9 - Sacked 2x ILB and DE
Game 10 - Sacked 3x ILB/ILB, ILB, CB
Game 11 - Sacked 0
Game 12 - Sacked 0
Game 13 - Sacked 2x CB, DE
Game 14 - Sacked 1x OLB
Game 15 - Sacked 1x S
Game 16 - Sacked 1x DE
Game 17 - Sacked 0
Game 18 - Sacked 0
Game 19 - Sacked 1x DE


4 sacks by a DE over 19 games (22 total sacks) ....seems to be a trend, wish I could put my finger on it....

Jewish Rabbi
03-13-2019, 06:59 PM
Wonder what EJ Gaines asking price is

I wonder what Phillip Gaines asking price is.

bobhill
03-13-2019, 06:59 PM
Why did the Chiefs let Berry walk he was a good young fa

FAX
03-13-2019, 06:59 PM
If Darby is a young great cover corner.....why would the eagles let him walk.


Red flag for me about any good FA.

His leg sounds more glued together than Ralphy Parker's dads lamp.

I just heard his interview with Rapaport and it appears that the Greenies would like to have him back.

To me, it sounds like he just wants to test FA. He alluded to the idea that a fresh start wouldn't be bad for him.

He also said that his rehab has been going extremely well. Of course, you would expect that sort of comment. But the Chiefs will check his legs and teeth before they check his handwriting.

FAX

Chief3188
03-13-2019, 07:00 PM
Thats true too, but i feel lime its alot harder to find good-great interior rushers then it is to find edge guys. Whens the last time prior to jones you can remember we had any pressure over the middle?

I mean Dontari Poe kind of did but he was more just an all around presence and hole closer I guess. But I do agree with your point that to get an interior player that can be whole and rush the passer is pretty rare.

One other thing to consider since edge rushers grow on trees now, is how long it took Ford and Houston to become such a presence in the backfield. None of them came in and lit it up their rookie year or could have been much of a factor in a postseason run as rookies which we are apparently hoping to do this season.

I am not going to pretend to know as much about football philosophies as all of the Chiefs front office and coaches so maybe the change in style and coaches on the defensive side can do what Reid did for our offense his first year where he got them respectable enough to allow the defense to carry us to the postseason. With this offense, middle of the road is all we will need.

FAX
03-13-2019, 07:01 PM
old habits die hard?

Tom Brady (King of quick release and Super Bowl champ) was sacked 22 times last year in 20 games. Let me break it down for you...

Game 1 - Sacked 2x by NT
Game 2 - Sacked 2x by CB and OLB
Game 3 - Sacked 2x by OLB
Game 4 - Sacked 0
Game 5 - Sacked 0
Game 6 - Sacked 2x ILB/OLB and NT
Game 7 - Sacked 1x ILB
Game 8 - Sacked 2x OLB
Game 9 - Sacked 2x ILB and DE
Game 10 - Sacked 3x ILB/ILB, ILB, CB
Game 11 - Sacked 0
Game 12 - Sacked 0
Game 13 - Sacked 2x CB, DE
Game 14 - Sacked 1x OLB
Game 15 - Sacked 1x S
Game 16 - Sacked 1x DE
Game 17 - Sacked 0
Game 18 - Sacked 0
Game 19 - Sacked 1x DE


4 sacks by a DE over 19 games (22 total sacks) ....seems to be a trend, wish I could put my finger on it....

Excellent investigative skills on display, right there.

Thanks, Mr. DenverChief.

FAX

BossChief
03-13-2019, 07:01 PM
I’d offer Verrett and Darby 2 year 10 mill deals.

Iowanian
03-13-2019, 07:01 PM
Why did the Chiefs let Berry walk he was a good young fa


Because his spirit is being chased around the subway by Patrick swayze trying to learn how to kick cans

staylor26
03-13-2019, 07:02 PM
I’d offer Verrett and Darby 2 year 10 mill deals.

Good luck getting Darby to take that LMAO

Iowanian
03-13-2019, 07:03 PM
Andy Reid has reported Darby as day-day....even hour-hour.

His signing is a game time decision...it's up to him if he can hold the pen.

DenverChief
03-13-2019, 07:07 PM
Excellent investigative skills on display, right there.

Thanks, Mr. DenverChief.

FAX

Thank you :)

BossChief
03-13-2019, 07:07 PM
Good luck getting Darby to take that LMAO

He’s basically only played half the time the last couple years.

No way should we break the bank for guys like that.

He’s never played a whole season.

He blew out his knee in mid november.


2/10 seems fair.

Mulliganman
03-13-2019, 07:09 PM
He’s basically only played half the time the last couple years.

No way should we break the bank for guys like that.

He’s never played a whole season.

He blew out his knee in mid november.


2/10 seems fair.

He’s not getting an average less than Nelson.

Simply Red
03-13-2019, 07:09 PM
I don't think i want him

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 07:09 PM
I don't think i want him

Yes you do!

DTVietnam
03-13-2019, 07:09 PM
Eagles fans seem happy to let Darby walk..

I watched his 2018 highlight video and its only like 6 plays replayed over and over. .
only 1 interception off a tipped ball ..

seems like a lateral move from Nelson..doesnt seem to be an upgrade

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 07:10 PM
Eagles fans seem happy to let Darby walk..

I watched his 2018 highlight video and its like 6 plays. . 1 interception off a tipped ball ..

seems like a lateral move from Nelson..doesnt seem to be an upgrade

Well he didn’t play the full year, but beyond that, he’s a cover corner. His best asset is not getting his name called throughout a game.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 07:13 PM
If you don’t want Darby due to injuries, then you shouldn’t be happy about Honey Badger. He’s been healthy the last two full years but his overall history is worse than Darby.

Point being, guys don’t always get hurt. Regardless of their history. He can turn it around.

MahomesMagic
03-13-2019, 07:15 PM
Darby is a very good man cover guy.

RunKC
03-13-2019, 07:21 PM
Might as well just sit free agency out unless you wanna pay bloated contracts for everybody.

Sorry but this is a necessary risk. It’s gonna cost $8-10 million AAV.

2nd and 3rd tier FA’s are usually guys with some injury history or some other flaw.

Priest31kc
03-13-2019, 07:22 PM
Darby is a very good man cover guy.

Yep. Not much of a ballhawk but idc give me cover guys.

And hell yes sign both Darby & Verrett if we can

IowaHawkeyeChief
03-13-2019, 07:25 PM
Because his spirit is being chased around the subway by Patrick swayze trying to learn how to kick cans

:LOL:

Buckweath
03-13-2019, 07:31 PM
I would LOVE Darby, plus Verrett on a one-year deal. It would give Veach flexibility in the draft, meaning he could go CB with any of the top 3 picks instead of having to draft one with the 1st round pick.

And then you have Fuller, Darby, Verrett, Ward and a 1st/2nd round pick. That would likely be a strong CB group, maybe even if you lose one for the season.

threebag
03-13-2019, 07:34 PM
Ward’s going to take the wood to the beaver

DRM08
03-13-2019, 07:36 PM
Might as well just sit free agency out unless you wanna pay bloated contracts for everybody.

Sorry but this is a necessary risk. It’s gonna cost $8-10 million AAV.

2nd and 3rd tier FA’s are usually guys with some injury history or some other flaw.

The top tier ones have a flaw too...they want way too damn much money! Lol smh

CoMoChief
03-13-2019, 07:38 PM
Not a big fan of Darby.

staylor26
03-13-2019, 07:42 PM
Not a big fan of Darby.

That settles it. You must get him Veach!

CoMoChief
03-13-2019, 07:45 PM
That settles it. You must get him Veach!

I guess you like CB's with blown out knees....I dont.

FAX
03-13-2019, 07:46 PM
That settles it. You must get him Veach!

LOL

FAX

chiefzilla1501
03-13-2019, 07:46 PM
If Darby is a young great cover corner.....why would the eagles let him walk.


Red flag for me about any good FA.

His leg sounds more glued together than Ralphy Parker's dads lamp.

Because unless you're willing to give another Eric berry like contract you'll have to take a FA with red flags. We don't need him to win us a super bowl in 2022. We need him to hold the fort until we draft a replacement.

Couch-Potato
03-13-2019, 07:53 PM
Darby's cool, would prefer a trade for a top tier but Darby cool

ModSocks
03-13-2019, 07:53 PM
Eagles fans seem happy to let Darby walk..

I watched his 2018 highlight video and its only like 6 plays replayed over and over. .
only 1 interception off a tipped ball ..

seems like a lateral move from Nelson..doesnt seem to be an upgrade

Dude, look at this roster.

A lateral move would be a welcomed addition.

smithandrew051
03-13-2019, 07:56 PM
Anyone have any realtor friends in Leawood that can weigh in?

Has Darby been spotted at Nebraska Furniture Mart yet?

jonzie04
03-13-2019, 07:58 PM
If they're all healthy, HUGE IF... maybe even a pipe dream, Verrett, Fuller, Darby, and Honeybadger make up one of the best defensive backfields in the NFL. Definately top 5.

Brewski
03-13-2019, 08:02 PM
Pass. He pals around with Jameis Winston, and even lied to cover for one of his sexual assaults. Guys like that make it hard to root for the team they're on.

staylor26
03-13-2019, 08:03 PM
JFC I spend 4 years defending Nelson, one of very very few, and now I have to see people on here calling Nelson to Darby a “lateral move”?

LMAO

ModSocks
03-13-2019, 08:06 PM
JFC I spend 4 years defending Nelson, one of very very few, and now I have to see people on here calling Nelson to Darby a “lateral move”?

LMAO

Yeah but they're not saying it as a compliment.

carcosa
03-13-2019, 08:07 PM
I don't think i want him

Let's stay positive!

staylor26
03-13-2019, 08:07 PM
Yeah but they're not saying it as a compliment.

Oh I know.

It doesn’t make it any less stupid.

carcosa
03-13-2019, 08:08 PM
Oh I know.

It doesn’t make it any more stupid.

More or less?

BryanBusby
03-13-2019, 08:08 PM
JFC I spend 4 years defending Nelson, one of very very few, and now I have to see people on here calling Nelson to Darby a “lateral move”?

LMAO
I'm not the biggest Darby fan, but calling him and Nelson the same is fucking dumb LMAO

TribalElder
03-13-2019, 08:08 PM
They had honey badger fly in to interview these scraps

In58men
03-13-2019, 08:09 PM
Did we sign this piece of shit yet?

staylor26
03-13-2019, 08:11 PM
More or less?

lol

CoMoChief
03-13-2019, 08:27 PM
Nelson was trash...glad he's w/ PIT now.

In58men
03-13-2019, 08:28 PM
Nelson was trash...glad he's w/ PIT now.

In his defense, Nelson shows up in Pittsburgh without Bob Sutton

ChiefsCountry
03-13-2019, 08:28 PM
Chiefs haven't signed any players yet. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs bring a player in for a visit. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs sign player. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs do nothing. Bitch and moan.

In58men
03-13-2019, 08:31 PM
Chiefs haven't signed any players yet. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs bring a player in for a visit. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs sign player. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs do nothing. Bitch and moan.

ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!

Everyone thinks we can just trade for Ramsay, sign Bell and CJ Mosley.

Need all the home run guys or Veach sucks.

kcclone
03-13-2019, 08:40 PM
ALL THE ****ING TIME!!!!!!!

Everyone thinks we can just trade for Ramsay, sign Bell and CJ Mosley.

Need all the home run guys or Veach sucks.



It's amazing how many low IQ Chiefs fans are on this site.

KCChiefsFan88
03-13-2019, 08:42 PM
Chiefs haven't signed any players yet. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs bring a player in for a visit. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs sign player. Bitch and moan.
Chiefs do nothing. Bitch and moan.

Your lame ass “bitch and moan” act should have been permanently retired after you posted bullshit like this:

The bitching about Bob Sutton is like bitching about Cueto for the Royals in 2015.

Get new material. ROFL

smithandrew051
03-13-2019, 08:58 PM
Do we need to go Bashaud Breeland to get this motherfucking piece of shit signed?!?!? I’ll stay up all night and get the fucking post count up if I need to!

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 08:59 PM
Do we need to go Bashaud Breeland to get this motherfucking piece of shit signed?!?!? I’ll stay up all night and get the fucking post count up if I need to!

Meeting is tomorrow my man.

RunKC
03-13-2019, 09:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sign me up <a href="https://t.co/7s5akT3MpW">pic.twitter.com/7s5akT3MpW</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs_all_day (@Chiefs_All_Day) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs_All_Day/status/1106006494678605824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051
03-13-2019, 09:04 PM
Meeting is tomorrow my man.

My bad. Tiger got out of the cage.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 09:05 PM
In my mind, this is what I’m looking at here for KC...

Next season rolls around. We’re headed to Oakland to face a nice set of WRs (AB, Tyrell Williams, Jordy?)... what set of corners on your depth chart do you want to potentially line up against them?

a) Fuller, Darby, Ward, maybe Verrett and maybe an early draft pick

or

b) Fuller, Ward, early draft pick, ......

You get the point by now. We need a starter, we need depth. The whole package really. I’m juiced about potentially adding Darby and Verrett if he wants to tag along too.

BryanBusby
03-13-2019, 09:05 PM
Do we need to go Bashaud Breeland to get this motherfucking piece of shit signed?!?!? I’ll stay up all night and get the fucking post count up if I need to!
Doooooooo itttttttttttttttt

Twitter fucksticks, march!

TEX
03-13-2019, 09:07 PM
Do we need to go Bashaud Breeland to get this mother****ing piece of shit signed?!?!? I’ll stay up all night and get the ****ing post count up if I need to!

:clap: ROFL

Best22
03-13-2019, 09:08 PM
In my mind, this is what I’m looking at here for KC...

Next season rolls around. We’re headed to Oakland to face a nice set of WRs (AB, Tyrell Williams, Jordy?)... what set of corners on your depth chart do you want to potentially line up against them?

a) Fuller, Darby, Ward, maybe Verrett and maybe an early draft pick

or

b) Fuller, Ward, early draft pick, ......

You get the point by now. We need a starter, we need depth. The whole package really. I’m juiced about potentially adding Darby and Verrett if he wants to tag along too.

Yep. Stack the secondary. Maybe we can begin to build a top notch unit back there

BossChief
03-13-2019, 09:13 PM
I’d rather them go out and trade for a proven vet that can be counted on to play.

ChiefoftheKeyboard
03-13-2019, 09:15 PM
I bet if the raiders or broncos or chargers signed this guy there would be a lot of “how does veach not even look at this guy when we need corners!?”

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 09:17 PM
I’d rather them go out and trade for a proven vet that can be counted on to play.

Can anyone really be 100% counted on? Guys get hurt, it’s football. If they pass their physical and don’t expect to have any issues, give them a chance. It’s not like a Berry situation where there is tons of uncertainty.

They could trade for Rhodes tomorrow and that doesn’t mean he won’t blow his knee out in August or November. Shit happens.

ChiefoftheKeyboard
03-13-2019, 09:18 PM
I’d rather them go out and trade for a proven vet that can be counted on to play.
This could happen as well. One doesn’t mean the other not happening. They’ll still have some leftover cap and can create more by cutting Sorensen and Murray.

Iconic
03-13-2019, 09:20 PM
If the choices are overpay for Darby or get rid of your 2 for some random above average corner I'm going Darby every time. You guys need to factor in opportunity cost here, that pick could be a starter who's a game changer.

O.city
03-13-2019, 09:23 PM
True

Darby just cost cap space

Doesn’t require a pick which could be used for a cheap player

SAUTO
03-13-2019, 09:23 PM
True

Darby just cost cap space

Doesn’t require a pick which could be used for a cheap player

Which plays into the extensions

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 09:24 PM
True

Darby just cost cap space

Doesn’t require a pick which could be used for a cheap player

Cap space that they do have now

ModSocks
03-13-2019, 09:38 PM
I’d rather them go out and trade for a proven vet that can be counted on to play.

Darby is a proven vet.

The only real question around him is the knee. Dude can play.

Chief Northman
03-13-2019, 09:41 PM
Darby is a proven vet.

The only real question around him is the knee. Dude can play.

Yup. The dislocated ankle worries me as much as the knee though. One major ankle injury, and your foot bone structure is weak for life.

i'm for a Darby signing if the contract is smart with protections. He has game.

carcosa
03-13-2019, 09:46 PM
Do we need to go Bashaud Breeland to get this motherfucking piece of shit signed?!?!? I’ll stay up all night and get the fucking post count up if I need to!

LETS DO THIS SHIT MORHERFUCKSR!!!!!!

KChiefs1
03-13-2019, 09:46 PM
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How much is he going to cost?

Fansy the Famous Bard
03-13-2019, 09:51 PM
How much is he going to cost?

We bout to find out, yo.

Titty Meat
03-13-2019, 09:53 PM
Is he dropping a mixtapes soon telling us who hes signing with?

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 09:54 PM
Is he dropping a mixtapes soon telling us who hes signing with?

Yep, it’s called ‘Lick My Drip’

RunKC
03-13-2019, 09:56 PM
Nelson and Desir just got $8 million AAV, so that is probably the range he will get. Might be lucky and get him for $7 million AAV bc of his injury.

That’s really not bad at all, especially if it’s a 2 year deal bc you can have this year’s cap hit be a little lower, maybe $5 million. Then just have the cap rise cover the cost of his 2nd year hit when it inevitable goes up again in 2020.

I like the move. Get some cover players in here. They don’t cost much. This is peanuts compared to what Dee Ford and Justin Houston were making.

The Franchise
03-13-2019, 09:58 PM
If we can get him for what the Steelers paid for Nelson....then I’m fucking happy.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 09:59 PM
Nelson and Desir just got $8 million AAV, so that is probably the range he will get. Might be lucky and get him for $7 million AAV bc of his injury.

That’s really not bad at all, especially if it’s a 2 year deal bc you can have this year’s cap hit be a little lower, maybe $5 million. Then just have the cap rise cover the cost of his 2nd year hit when it inevitable goes up again in 2020.

I like the move. Get some cover players in here. They don’t cost much. This is peanuts compared to what Dee Ford and Justin Houston were making.

I think it has to be a 2-year deal. It's the best length for both parties.

The Franchise
03-13-2019, 10:04 PM
I think it has to be a 2-year deal. It's the best length for both parties.

I’d go 3 years with an out after two.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 10:06 PM
I’d go 3 years with an out after two.

I say two because if it goes bad year one, you move on. If it goes well, he’s around another year before hitting the market again at 27. Better than hitting the market at 28 for him.

If things don’t work out with him in 2019, we’re gonna want to be able to get out of it ASAP as Mahomes and the other guys get big pay days.

RunKC
03-13-2019, 10:07 PM
You also notice that Darby is not only a very fast straight line runner, but he can change directions quickly and stay with guys laterally. He’s the best young corner on the market who can do that.

They are stocking up on DB’s to compete against New England’s short game.

BryanBusby
03-13-2019, 10:31 PM
did this piece of shit sign yet

St. Patty's Fire
03-13-2019, 10:34 PM
You also notice that Darby is not only a very fast straight line runner, but he can change directions quickly and stay with guys laterally. He’s the best young corner on the market who can do that.

They are stocking up on DB’s to compete against New England’s short game.

I think it’s more about fixing the back end in general than a New England counter; I’m sure Veach and Reid saw what having strong coverage guys allowed the Pats to do with their front 7, despite it being mostly no names.

I’m guesing the Chiefs wanna do something similar, and we already have a leg up in interior pressure with Jones. Have tight ass coverage in the back and go crazy scheming ways to blitz up front. Do that, and you don’t need to pay a premium for someone like Ford.

xztop123
03-13-2019, 10:54 PM
You also notice that Darby is not only a very fast straight line runner, but he can change directions quickly and stay with guys laterally. He’s the best young corner on the market who can do that.

They are stocking up on DB’s to compete against New England’s short game.

He’s a track star. Should be the third fastest guy on the roster

Titty Meat
03-13-2019, 11:08 PM
did this piece of shit sign yet

Yes in our hearts

BossChief
03-13-2019, 11:12 PM
He just tore his ACL in November.

Can he even pass a physical right now to be able to sign?

If he can, that’s pretty remarkable.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-13-2019, 11:14 PM
He just tore his ACL in November.

Can he even pass a physical right now to be able to sign?

If he can, that’s pretty remarkable.

Supposedly guys can jog or even run many times at this point in the recovery.

Kwon Alexander tore his around a similar time last season and signed with SF today.

jonzie04
03-13-2019, 11:19 PM
He just tore his ACL in November.

Can he even pass a physical right now to be able to sign?

If he can, that’s pretty remarkable.

Seems like a pretty normal recovery to me. I've known a quite a few guys who have torn ACLs during football season, and then were ready to go for Track season.

JohnnyV13
03-13-2019, 11:20 PM
Darby might be meeting with the Chiefs tonight. But, I doubt the Chiefs make an offer to him without a medical exam first. That means we probably won't see a deal until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest.

Naptown Chief
03-13-2019, 11:29 PM
did this piece of shit sign yet

This line will never get old ROFL

Jewish Rabbi
03-13-2019, 11:29 PM
HAS THIS MOTHERFUCKER SIGNED YET

htismaqe
03-14-2019, 12:17 AM
I think it’s more about fixing the back end in general than a New England counter; I’m sure Veach and Reid saw what having strong coverage guys allowed the Pats to do with their front 7, despite it being mostly no names.

I’m guesing the Chiefs wanna do something similar, and we already have a leg up in interior pressure with Jones. Have tight ass coverage in the back and go crazy scheming ways to blitz up front. Do that, and you don’t need to pay a premium for someone like Ford.

Yep.

Naptown Chief
03-14-2019, 02:02 AM
So, have we officially signed this piece of shit yet?

In58men
03-14-2019, 05:43 AM
What’s the word on this broke dick?

ShowtimeSBMVP
03-14-2019, 05:45 AM
What’s the word on this broke dick?

He was flying in last night the visit is today

In58men
03-14-2019, 05:49 AM
He was flying in last night the visit is today

Hopefully he doesn’t tear an ACL getting off the plane.

That would suck

ChiefGator
03-14-2019, 06:52 AM
Hopefully he doesn’t tear an ACL getting off the plane.

That would suck

He will tear it getting out from behind the office desk after signing his contract.

carcosa
03-14-2019, 08:01 AM
Why hasn't that white bitch Brett Veach signed this fucking asshole yet?????

O.city
03-14-2019, 08:08 AM
Yep.

I think they'll hit the DL and rush hard with the draft too.

Throw in a trade here or there.

smithandrew051
03-14-2019, 08:11 AM
I fucking hate this guy with every ounce of my being until he signs

MahiMike
03-14-2019, 08:14 AM
Can't tackle? Sounds like Peters.

Mecca
03-14-2019, 08:32 AM
Can't tackle? Sounds like Peters.

He's basically the total opposite of Peters as a player.

In58men
03-14-2019, 08:36 AM
If Veach can’t get it done he fucking needs to go, period!!!!!

Hog's Gone Fishin
03-14-2019, 08:40 AM
If Veach can’t get it done he ****ing needs to go, period!!!!!

I'm OK with whatever happens. Veach will make the right moves. Personally I'm looking forward to building through the draft with a young fast defense.

staylor26
03-14-2019, 08:41 AM
If Veach can’t get it done he fucking needs to go, period!!!!!

:facepalm:

O.city
03-14-2019, 08:41 AM
I just don't put "tackles well" very high on the list of things I want my corner to excel at.

It's pretty far below "covers well" and "good ball skils"

Mecca
03-14-2019, 08:47 AM
The CB tackling thing is really over done on here, hardly any CB's tackle well.

In58men
03-14-2019, 08:53 AM
The CB tackling thing is really over done on here, hardly any CB's tackle well.

Honey Badger will tackle everyone, badger don’t take no shit.

Mecca
03-14-2019, 08:54 AM
Honey Badger will tackle everyone, badger don’t take no shit.

Well he's a safety but in reality most DB's tackle like shit.

Miles
03-14-2019, 08:54 AM
I just don't put "tackles well" very high on the list of things I want my corner to excel at.

It's pretty far below "covers well" and "good ball skils"

Just need to not actively avoid trying to tackle...

TwistedChief
03-14-2019, 08:55 AM
Why hasn't that white bitch Brett Veach signed this fucking asshole yet?????

This sounds like a challenge for UChieffyBugger to choose Darby as his next Adopt-a-Chief now that Berry is gone.

King_Chief_Fan
03-14-2019, 08:57 AM
If Veach can’t get it done he ****ing needs to go, period!!!!!

ROFL wow....if Veach can't signed a guy that is recovering from ACL injury and has no clear idea as to when he can play then I say YAY.

Mecca
03-14-2019, 09:00 AM
ROFL wow....if Veach can't signed a guy that is recovering from ACL injury and has no clear idea as to when he can play then I say YAY.

ACL recovery really isn't that drawn out anymore...he can probably move around fine right now...

If that injury gets him cheaper it's a good deal.

St. Patty's Fire
03-14-2019, 09:02 AM
Why do some people in here act like an ACL injury is the end of the world?

The most devestating aspect of the ACL injury in this day and age is the recovery time. This isn’t 1976, the dude’s career isn’t even remotely in jeopardy, and it’ll likely have little to no effect moving forward. Just gotta hope he doesn’t grow a Haglund!

htismaqe
03-14-2019, 09:03 AM
This sounds like a challenge for UChieffyBugger to choose Darby as his next Adopt-a-Chief now that Berry is gone.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TwistedChief again."

htismaqe
03-14-2019, 09:04 AM
So has there been any actual news? Looks like they haven't even met yet?

King_Chief_Fan
03-14-2019, 09:05 AM
ACL recovery really isn't that drawn out anymore...he can probably move around fine right now...

If that injury gets him cheaper it's a good deal.

I hope that is true.

After a complete physical on that knee, we will know for sure his status.

I all for getting the guy, but he better be healed and ready to play when the time comes.

staylor26
03-14-2019, 09:08 AM
Is it just me or is it rare that when somebody visits we actually end up signing them?

Feels like you always hear somebody is visiting and then nothing happens.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-14-2019, 09:10 AM
I bet they get everything checked out this morning, he signs, and then has a press conference along with Mathieu.

TwistedChief
03-14-2019, 09:11 AM
Is it just me or is it rare that when somebody visits we actually end up signing them?

Feels like you always hear somebody is visiting and then nothing happens.

What are you talking about? There was Bashaund Breeland... oh wait. There was Emmanual Sanders... oh wait.

Mecca
03-14-2019, 09:11 AM
Is it just me or is it rare that when somebody visits we actually end up signing them?

Feels like you always hear somebody is visiting and then nothing happens.

Considering everything that has happened and how desperate this team is for a CB I expect something to happen.

srvy
03-14-2019, 09:11 AM
I just don't put "tackles well" very high on the list of things I want my corner to excel at.

It's pretty far below "covers well" and "good ball skils"

Yeah I love it when 5 yard quik outs go for another 10 to 20 yards or even cooler td's. Its a corner why should he have to cover and tackle amirite.

htismaqe
03-14-2019, 09:12 AM
What are you talking about? There was Bashaund Breeland... oh wait. There was Emmanual Sanders... oh wait.

ROFL

Sanders is a punk bitch.

srvy
03-14-2019, 09:13 AM
:rolleyes:Corners tackling so overrated:rolleyes: