CB Darqueze Dennard visiting Chiefs

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> first-round CB Darqueze Dennard, one of the top available players in free agency, is set to visit the Kansas City <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> this week, source said.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1106686545069830145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

UPDATE: We have not signed this piece of shit yet.

[In58men]

I'm told free agent CB Darqueze Dennard is scheduled to visit the #Chiefs "this weekend," at this time, per source

[Iconic]

Is this piece of shit signed yet???

[RealSNR]

Hooray for leftovers!!!

[Coochie liquor]

Can he catch a ball and run 22 mph??

[Gravedigger]

So no Darby?

[TribalElder]

guess that means we aborted darby

[MTG#10]

Is this piece of feces any good?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

At least he won’t have to guard Hill in practice

[Coochie liquor]

Good thing dj56dt58 didn’t start this thread he may have spelled his name as Darky Denard.

[Naptown Chief]

Is this underwear stained skid mark of human excrement signed yet?

[JakeF]

Doesn't Dennard suck?

Might as well draft guys at this point.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

He’d be fine as a backup.

[New World Order]

WHEN ARE WE SIGNING THIS PIECE OF SHIT?!

[Dante84]

So no Darby?

guess that means we aborted darby

He aborted us... signed with philly.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Have we signed this excrement yet ?

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Can we knock it off with the "Have we signed X yet?" It was mildly amusing the first 1000 times.

Or at least come up with something new. Show some fucking imagination.

[wazu]

Can we knock it off with the "Have we signed X yet?" It was mildly amusing the first 1000 times.

Or at least come up with something new. Show some fucking imagination.

I'm fine if Simply Red wants to keep doing his thing, though.

[MTG#10]

Can we knock it off with the "Have we signed X yet?" It was mildly amusing the first 1000 times.

Or at least come up with something new. Show some ****ing imagination.

Fuck you butthole!

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

This guy came from even a worse defense then ours

[BryanBusby]

Can we knock it off with the "Have we signed X yet?" It was mildly amusing the first 1000 times.

Or at least come up with something new. Show some fucking imagination.
Has Tyreek broken this dudes arm yet?

[TEX]

Doesn't Dennard suck?

Might as well draft guys at this point.

He does not suck, but he's not very good.

[wazu]

Sounds like a borderline #2/#3 NFL CB.

[RealSNR]

Can we knock it off with the "Have we signed X yet?" It was mildly amusing the first 1000 times.

Or at least come up with something new. Show some fucking imagination.

HAVE WE STOPPED ASKING IF THE CHIEFS HAVE SIGNED THIS PIECE OF SHIT YET?

[TEX]

Sounds like a borderline #2/#3 NFL CB.

Closer to #3. He's serviceable, but he'sJnothing more than JAG with a petigree.

[JakeF]

He does not suck, but he's not very good.
Better or worse than Steven Nelson in your opinion?

[BryanBusby]

Better or worse than Steven Nelson in your opinion?
worse

[Easy 6]

Helluva guitar player and backup vocalist for Prince, lets see how he meshes with this band

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Ah well. I was, you know, actually hoping to find some Chiefs "NEWS" here.

Instead, just more people to *plonk*

Idiots

[JakeF]

worse
Then he basically sucks because steven nelson was picked on until they found out other other guys sucked just as much. Ward's improvement saved our ass from being a total pile of shit.

[Chief Northman]

Dennard is better in the slot but can play outside too, so he has versatility. Not as talented as a healthy Darby, but Dennard has no significant injury history as of late apart from a shoulder issue that caused him to miss a few weeks last year.

Good tackler, not the greatest ball skills, but a decent if not solid #3 option who could step in as a #2 if necessary.

Probably won’t cost a ton either.

[Simply Red]

so many pieces of shit - so little time

[RealSNR]

Ah well. I was, you know, actually hoping to find some Chiefs "NEWS" here.

Instead, just more people to *plonk*

Idiots

You already got all the fucking news you need, dude.

Dennard has a visit planned with us. We may or may not sign him. That was all included in the fucking OP.

What the fuck more do you want? Do you mean shit you can fucking google yourself?

[FlaChief58]

so many pieces of shit - so little time

Better stock up on Charmin

[BryanBusby]

Then he basically sucks because steven nelson was picked on until they found out other other guys sucked just as much. Ward's improvement saved our ass from being a total pile of shit.
He can be an okay slot corner but I think he insists on playing outside and he's not good there. They really needed somebody to dethrone a very overrated corner in Dre Kirkpatrick and he could not do it.

[Naptown Chief]

HAVE WE STOPPED ASKING IF THE CHIEFS HAVE SIGNED THIS PIECE OF SHIT YET?

I want to know YOUR opinion on signing this piece of shit

[Naptown Chief]

This piece of shit on our roster yet?

[Naptown Chief]

so many pieces of shit - so little time

ROFL

[carcosa]

Re: this piece of shit

Have we signed him yet????

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Arrives Sunday night visit Monday

[Bump]

is he any good? no idea

[JakeF]

is he any good? no idea Two people in this thread say he's not as good as Steven Nelson.

[DenverChief]

Arrives Sunday night visit Monday

I'd sign him to be a #2 or #3 and draft a CB early...let Ward and draft pick fight out who is #1/#4

[carcosa]

Ah well. I was, you know, actually hoping to find some Chiefs "NEWS" here.

Instead, just more people to *plonk*

Idiots

Suck my piss pipe!!!!

[DenverChief]

sounds promising

While he didn’t become a starter until his third season, the former 24th overall pick has been holding down the slot for most of his Bengals career. When he missed three games to injury in 2018, his replacements were overwhelmed and left gaping holes in the middle of the defense.

Even though Dennard struggles from time to time, he is still improving his game. He was on pace to have a career year statistically when he injured his shoulder late in 2018. With a new defensive coordinator, and one who was a defensive backs coach at that, Dennard might be able to step up his game in 2019.

At 27 years old, Dennard has that perfect balance between age and experience. He is a five-year NFL veteran, but is still young enough to produce value on a multi-year deal. It would be great to have his veteran leadership in a room with so many young prospects behind him.

But Dennard is going to come with some injury concern. He has been a Bengal for five years but has not played a full-16 games season yet. Over the course of his career, Dennard has missed significant time due to ailments in his shoulder (2018 and 2014), ankle (2016), and hamstring (2016). His injury history should lower his price for whoever signs him, whether it be the Bengals or someone else, but based on some of the contracts that have been handed out so far, how much of a discount can Cincinnati expect, if any?

Apart from injury, Dennard struggled at times defending the slot. While the slot is becoming a tough assignment as the NFL evolves, Dennard still has room for improvement there. According to Pro Football Focus, Dennard earned a coverage grade of 60.7.

Ultimately, though, we should expect Dennard back in the Queen City for a few more years. Dennard is going one of the best slot corners remaining on the open market, so it would make no sense to find his replacement there.

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/3/12/18258842/should-the-bengals-re-sign-cb-darqueze-dennard

[chinaski]

Arrives Sunday night visit Monday

It's just another manic Monday
I wish it was Sunday
'Cause that's this piece of shits arrival day
His waiting to be signed day
It's just another manic Monday

[pugsnotdrugs19]

He ain’t gonna cost shit and the Chiefs badly need depth. That’s what he is. It’s fine...

[DenverChief]

In a year where most of the core players on the roster are still under contract, the 2014 first-round pick is the most significant potential loss for Cincinnati.

Failing to re-sign Dennard leaves a gaping hole in the secondary between Dre Kirkpatrick and William Jackson III. In an NFL world more dependent on the slot corner than ever before, that could single-handedly tank a season.

Rookie fifth-round pick Darius Phillips looked like a rookie fifth-round pick when filling in last year. There are no answers on the current roster at the position.

A conundrum follows for the Bengals. They have expressed willingness to pay Dennard as a slot corner. Look across the league and you see Tavon Young in Baltimore land a three-year deal worth $26.5 million to play slot for the Ravens.

The Bengals approached Dennard with a multi-year extension in this area, but the cornerback’s camp passed in order to hit the open market. Dennard came out of Michigan State as the Jim Thorpe Award winner and an outside, press corner. Yet, for the most part he’s never been allowed to play that spot in the NFL.

Outside corners get paid more. Dre Kirkpatrick signed a five-year, $52.5 million contract when he hit free agency. Dennard undeniably looks at that and sees what his market could look like.

Over the last three seasons Dennard played 1,230 snaps in the slot and 481 on the outside.

He wants to be paid like an outside corner. According to Pro Football Focus, over the last three years Dennard graded out at 60.0 when in coverage on the outside and 69.3 when in coverage in the slot.

For comparison, Dre Kirkpatrick graded out at 68.0 when in coverage on the outside over that same span.

Dennard’s performed as one of the best tackling and run-defending corners in the game. His role with physicality and sniffing out plays near the line is particularly important on a team where Kirkpatrick and Jackson struggle in that area.





https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/03/10/walkthru-darqueze-dennard-free-agency-fascinating-cincinnati-bengals-nfl/3105541002/

[DenverChief]

The strength of Dennard’s game seems to be his tackling and run defense, but Dennard also improved in coverage as he got more comfortable with the NFL game. His final 2018 stat line included 68 tackles, 6 pass breakups, two forced fumbles, a fumble recovery, and no interceptions.

There are some issues that immediately stand out with this signing. Dennard’s been primarily a slot guy during his time with the Bengals, and he is rumored to be seeking money typically reserved for outside corners. The Chiefs obviously have the slot taken care of with Kendall Fuller, so they’re looking for guys who can play on the outside. Perhaps Brett Veach see’s a transition coming for Dennard. This appears to be your typical reclamation project.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/15/former-bengals-cb-darqueze-denard-to-visit-chiefs/

[DenverChief]

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[TEX]

He ain’t gonna cost shit and the Chiefs badly need depth. That’s what he is. It’s fine...

Exactly the case.

[DenverChief]

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[Iconic]

Bengals are zone heavy, I could see him doing well here where Spags lets him put his hands on the receiver.

PFF says he had a GREAT year in 17 to the tune of 75.4 Cov grade and 77.4 overall. Interestingly enough, that's the same season he got to play 36% of his snaps out wide.

One of his worst years? Last season where he played just under 16% of his snaps outside the slot.

I think this kid could be a diamond in the rough that winds up excelling in Spags scheme. I mean he clearly had potential at one point being touted as a first round draft pick.

[Floridafan]

This whole thing is turning into a very Shittty situation.

[FlaChief58]

Has this fragment of fecal matter agreed to terms with the Kansas City professional football franchise?

[DenverChief]

Bengals are zone heavy, I could see him doing well here where Spags lets him put his hands on the receiver.

PFF says he had a GREAT year in 17 to the tune of 75.4 Cov grade and 77.4 overall. Interestingly enough, that's the same season he got to play 36% of his snaps out wide.

One of his worst years? Last season where he played just under 16% of his snaps outside the slot.

I think this kid could be a diamond in the rough that winds up excelling in Spags scheme. I mean he clearly had potential at one point being touted as a first round draft pick.

Agreed. after watching a few of these videos he is a great tackler and superb in run support

[Naptown Chief]

Has this fragment of fecal matter agreed to terms with the Kansas City professional football franchise?

I don't know. I do, however, know that dinner is disagreeing with me and I now have to take a MASSIVE free agent

[smithandrew051]

Suck my dick and balls. We’re signing this piece of shit.

[alpha_omega]

Can we knock it off with the "Have we signed X yet?" It was mildly amusing the first 1000 times.

Or at least come up with something new. Show some fucking imagination.

ROFL

I hear ya, but it’s gonna be double now that you said it.

[DenverChief]

Dennard is better in the slot but can play outside too, so he has versatility. Not as talented as a healthy Darby, but Dennard has no significant injury history as of late apart from a shoulder issue that caused him to miss a few weeks last year.

Good tackler, not the greatest ball skills, but a decent if not solid #3 option who could step in as a #2 if necessary.

Probably won’t cost a ton either.


I think we should pull the trigger and sign him. From what I ahve seen he seems solid with potential to be even better. What does it hurt? 2-3 year deal.

[Redbled]

I’m available.

[DenverChief]

I’m available.

Are you between 22-27 years old and run a 4.4 40?

[Cosmos]

Can he catch a ball and run 22 mph??

Way too soon....:shake:

[DenverChief]

The drama llamas need to stop the gossip and get back to football

[New World Order]

Would rather have him than Diarrhea Darby

[CaliforniaChief]

Can we have AJ Green instead?

[Red Dawg]

Would rather have him than Diarrhea Darby

HAHA BURN!

[Red Dawg]

Can he catch a ball and run 22 mph??

You cock sucker!

[Red Dawg]

Good thing dj56dt58 didn’t start this thread he may have spelled his name as Darky Denard.

You are so over critical of him.

[carcosa]

You are so over critical of him.

Shut the fuck up, dumbass

[CoMoChief]

Doesn't Dennard suck?

Might as well draft guys at this point.

yup

[RealSNR]

sounds promising



https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/3/12/18258842/should-the-bengals-re-sign-cb-darqueze-dennard

So he's Philip Gaines, basically...

[Naptown Chief]

I don't know if I want this free agent football player
he's still a piece of shit

[BryanBusby]

SHIT FUCK ANAL PISS

[carcosa]

SHIT FUCK ANAL PISS

Yip

[Pablo]

Sometimes when I think about this piece of shit signing with us I cum.

Plz advise.

[Naptown Chief]

Sometimes when I think about this piece of shit signing with us I cum.

Plz advise.

IS YOUR CUM YELLOW?????

Asking for Black Bob

[Naptown Chief]

?????? tey ngis tihs fo eceip siht

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This is NOT a good substitute for my PP.

Goddamnit, get me my PP.

[TribalElder]

Anyone still available is probably a scrap at this point

[Warrick]

Give them the 49ers bargain baseman crap for PP, and Ragland if they start bitching.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Give them the 49ers bargain baseman crap for PP, and Ragland if they start bitching.

Now you're talking. We need our PP.

[MotherfuckerJones]

This would be a solid pick up. Nothing to go crazy about but he’s a solid corner that’s a pretty good tackler which this defense has been lacking.

[carcosa]

Sometimes when I think about this piece of shit signing with us I cum.

Plz advise.

Be sure to clean up!

[Rausch]

So he's Philip Gaines, basically...

Talented, often injured, underachieving frustration supernova...

[DenverChief]

This would be a solid pick up. Nothing to go crazy about but he’s a solid corner that’s a pretty good tackler which this defense has been lacking.

Exactly. Darby would have been nice if healthy but Dennard is perfectly acceptable as well

[FlaChief58]

Has this wet fart put his stripe on the dotted line yet?

[Naptown Chief]

Talented, often injured, underachieving frustration supernova...

Supernova, as in explosion? Explosion, as in bust? Bust, as in CUMM!?!?!!? CUMM, as in we're signing this piece of shit?

[Naptown Chief]

IS THIS QUEEF A CHIEF???

[ILChief]

This would be a solid pick up. Nothing to go crazy about but he’s a solid corner that’s a pretty good tackler which this defense has been lacking.

We almost have to sign him. Do we have any CB on the roster besides Fuller and Ward?

[DenverChief]

We almost have to sign him. Do we have any CB on the roster besides Fuller and Ward?

Tremon Smith and Demonte Wade

[Chief Northman]

We almost have to sign him. Do we have any CB on the roster besides Fuller and Ward?

Tremon Smith comes to mind.

[DenverChief]

Some guy named Dontae Johnson we signed back in Feb. Used to start for Seattle.

[locomoulds]

Some guy named Dontae Johnson we signed back in Feb. Used to start for Seattle.

Dontae Johnson is aids at best. He should not be on a NFL roster. Last time he had significant playing time he graded out as the worst cornerback in the NFL.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

My erection is over.

[Bowser]

HWSTPoS

[chinaski]

Did this nice young man sign yet? Asking for his mom.

[Unsmooth-Moment]

Which is it? A young man or a piece of shit?? Well, have we signed this young piece of male shit?

[DJ's left nut]

Has someone else signed this piece of shit yet?

[Sassy Squatch]

Signed this piece of shit has not.

[Naptown Chief]

Have we signed this shit free agent, whom was once whole but is now fragmented?

[TwistedChief]

So he's Philip Gaines, basically...

Nah, Gaines signed already. This is the guy you go after after Gaines falls through.

We look forward to welcoming your son, Mrs. Dennard.

[Chief Pagan]

Have we signed this spiritless deformity yet?

[smithandrew051]

When the fuck is this Haglund’s AIDS Pioli love child going to sign?

[Naptown Chief]

Has this BAWAN signed yet?

[T-post Tom]

I'm fine if Simply Red wants to keep doing his thing, though.

I'm cool with anything SR wants to do. He's dreamy and very nice.

[T-post Tom]

Sounds like someone that could move to safety in the right scheme and with the right coaching.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

SR, what are we gonna' do to get our PP?

[chiefs7772004]

Lin Elliot.

[suzzer99]

Did we sign this brokedick fucktard yet?

[Warrick]

L** E*****.

Ban this piece of shit, ty :)

[Naptown Chief]

:( I'm guessing this sweet, vivacious, beautiful man hasn't signed with us? :(

[ILChief]

Sounds like someone that could move to safety in the right scheme and with the right coaching.

We need corners more than safeties

[mcaj22]

Sounds like someone that could move to safety in the right scheme and with the right coaching.

You mean someone that could move to outside corner. Bengals underutilized him (in the slot) and a lot of their fan base seems to know it.

[TRR]

It’s being reported that Dennard wants 10MM per season. If that’s the case...he can walk.

[FlaChief58]

It’s being reported that Dennard wants 10MM per season. If that’s the case...he can walk.

Piece of shit

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

I just saw that Dennard wants 10 mil a year. Just draft a damn CB then.

[Sassy Squatch]

LMAO

[Bowser]

Forsooth! Hast thine team yet acquired yon piece of shite, verily?

[T-post Tom]

You mean someone that could move to outside corner. Bengals underutilized him (in the slot) and a lot of their fan base seems to know it.

Nope. Not what I meant. Just based off the info some provided, sounds like he has the skill set. Not suggesting the Chiefs sign him as a safety. Just making an observation.

[ILChief]

It’s being reported that Dennard wants 10MM per season. If that’s the case...he can walk.

Eh, give it to him. It’s not like we are giving it to anyone else at this point and we need some good news

[The Franchise]

Just trade for one.

[ILChief]

Just trade for one.

Waynes in Minnesota is the only one known to be on the block

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I just saw that Dennard wants 10 mil a year. Just draft a damn CB then.

Yeah, I’d like $10M per year too. Think I’m gonna get it?

He’ll take what he can get. And it ain’t gonna be close to $10M.

[Bowser]

Just trade for one.

I'm still holding out hope they make a play for Patrick Peterson (even though I know they won't), but I say that not knowing the numbers on his existing contract.

[T-post Tom]

I'm still holding out hope they make a play for Patrick Peterson (even though I know they won't), but I say that not knowing the numbers on his existing contract.

Yaasss! 2nd that!

[The Franchise]

Throw a 2020 2nd for Rhodes.

[Chief Northman]

I'm still holding out hope they make a play for Patrick Peterson (even though I know they won't), but I say that not knowing the numbers on his existing contract.

A trade for Peterson would give the Cards $10.6 million in cap savings and $1.26 million in dead money.

Peterson’s cap number/hit would come in around $11.88 million this year, and go up a bit in 2020. Two years left on his deal.

Not sure the Cards are needing/wanting to clear cap, as they have over $30 million in space right now. Doubt he is available, but he would be an excellent acquisition.

[The Franchise]

The Vikings need space.

[Chief Northman]

The Vikings need space.

If the Tyreek situation goes badly, I offer Minnesota:

(1) #29
(2) #61
(2) 2020 pick from SF

For,

Adam Thielen
Trae Waynes

Vikings get over $15 million in cap relief, and the equivalent of two late 1’s in regards of draft capital value.
Chiefs fill two needs with starter quality.

[The Franchise]

If the Tyreek situation goes badly, I offer Minnesota:

(1) #29
(2) #61
(2) 2020 pick from SF

For,

Adam Thielen
Trae Waynes

Vikings get over $15 million in cap relief, and the equivalent of two late 1’s in regards of draft capital value.
Chiefs fill two needs with starter quality.

Better off getting Diggs.

[nychief]

If the Tyreek situation goes badly, I offer Minnesota:

(1) #29
(2) #61
(2) 2020 pick from SF

For,

Adam Thielen
Trae Waynes

Vikings get over $15 million in cap relief, and the equivalent of two late 1’s in regards of draft capital value.
Chiefs fill two needs with starter quality.


Trade up and get the best non criminal receiver in the draft.

[Chief Northman]

Better off getting Diggs.

Never happen. Vikings would have more dead money than cap savings if they traded Diggs. With Thielen they save $6 million in a trade.
The reason we hear so much of Trae Waynes availability is because he costs the Vikings $0 dead money in any transaction (cut/trade). He is on the last year of his deal (option) and becomes a FA next year.

[RunKC]

If Dennard doesn’t work out, draft a corner in the 2nd rd and have Veach search for another Ward.

Not everyone is high on him, but from what I saw from the kid, he looked very similar to Sean Smith (when he was with us) and made plays in both playoff games.

[58-4ever]

I'm wondering if Bengals fans feel about him how we felt about Nelson... decent PFF numbers, but part of a GARBAGE defense that I would not want ANY part of.

[Redbled]

We need more secondary help no doubt but we are already ahead of last year. Losing Nelson and adding Honey Badger is a win. One more solid piece and some depth we will be set up well.

[UChieffyBugger]

The fact that Veach has failed twice to land a free agent CB has got to be a concern. If he fails with this too then the pressure is really going to be on during the draft or he's gonna have to trade for someone.

[TribalElder]

The fact that Veach has failed twice to land a free agent CB has got to be a concern. If he fails with this too then the pressure is really going to be on during the draft or he's gonna have to trade for someone.

Not if the CB are broke dick losers

[FlaChief58]

Not if the CB are broke dick losers

You sir are correct

[UChieffyBugger]

Not if the CB are broke dick losers

Breeland played for the Packers last season and Darby just signed a one year 8m dollar deal back with Philly.

[Bowser]

Breeland played for the Packers last season and Darby just signed a one year 8m dollar deal back with Philly.

Darby is also coming off of an ACL, and Breeland has foot gonorrhea. Not real upset.

[SAUTO]

The fact that Veach has failed twice to land a free agent CB has got to be a concern. If he fails with this too then the pressure is really going to be on during the draft or he's gonna have to trade for someone.

You're dumb

[Halfcan]

The fact that Veach has failed twice to land a free agent CB has got to be a concern. If he fails with this too then the pressure is really going to be on during the draft or he's gonna have to trade for someone.

You are right- Veech should sign anyone with a business card that says Cornerback on it!! :rolleyes:

[Buckweath]

If Dennard doesn’t work out, draft a corner in the 2nd rd and have Veach search for another Ward.

Not everyone is high on him, but from what I saw from the kid, he looked very similar to Sean Smith (when he was with us) and made plays in both playoff games.

I like Ward but you can't seriously think this team is gonna start the season with just Fuller, Ward and a 2nd round pick.

If that's your expectation, you will be pleasantly surprised.

I dont see how this team doesn't have at least a quatuor of Fuller, Dennard, a 2nd round pick CB and Ward to start the season and even then, I fully expect better than that.

[Buckweath]

Patrick Peterson would be perfect for this team with 2 years left on his contract but I am not giving a 1st round pick for him.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Patrick Peterson would be perfect for this team with 2 years left on his contract but I am not giving a 1st round pick for him.

JFC dude the cards aren’t willing to trade him

[booger]

JFC dude the cards aren’t willing to trade him

It’s like when Tony G wanted traded for so long and Carl would never trade the star hof TE. Same in AZ. He’s like Fitzgerald. Home grown (they drafted him) the Bidwell son who’s running the show is taking a Carl like stance. Unless someone drastically over pays he’s not getting traded

[FloridaMan88]

Not if the CB are broke dick losers

Which basically describes pretty much all of the available free agent CB’s.

So either Veach finally converts a trade and lands a veteran CB or everything will have to be addressed in the draft.

Of course the third option is to wait until August like last year and try to get a CB from the trash heap... see the failed Scandsuck fiasco.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It’s being reported that Dennard wants 10MM per season.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand fuck off.

[Warrick]

Yeah, 10m is crazy... He has yet to play one full 16 game season due to his past injuries. And Dennard earned a coverage grade of 60.7.

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

Did not follow the whole thread.
What's wrong with this guy that most of you folks don't like him ?
Sure seems better to me than what we currently have...

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

Yeah, 10m is crazy... He has yet to play one full 16 game season due to his past injuries. And Dennard earned a coverage grade of 60.7.

OK, question answered...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

OK, question answered...

We don't fuck around here, guy. Straight and to the point! :)

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

We don't **** around here, guy. Straight and to the point! :)

:thumb: LOL

[Naptown Chief]

Did not follow the whole thread.
What's wrong with this guy that most of you folks don't like him ?
Sure seems better to me than what we currently have...

Appears to be a Steven Nelson type that wants 10m/year
This piece of shit can visit elsewhere

[OKchiefs]

Hmm, I wonder when Veach will finally address cornerback after ignoring the position for so long. Our cornerback depth chart is probably bottom 2-3 in the league.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Hmm, I wonder when Veach will finally address cornerback after ignoring the position for so long. Our cornerback depth chart is probably bottom 2-3 in the league.

Hmm, probably when something worth a fuck comes along, yes.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Hmm, I wonder when Veach will finally address cornerback after ignoring the position for so long. Our cornerback depth chart is probably bottom 2-3 in the league.

Yeah the Smith for Fuller trade never happened

[Redbled]

The fact that Veach has failed twice to land a free agent CB has got to be a concern. If he fails with this too then the pressure is really going to be on during the draft or he's gonna have to trade for someone.

Was it not true Darby failed a physical? If so that's not really a miss. Who was the other one he failed on?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

He can want 10m all he wants the free agent money is pretty much over till draft. He will be lucky to get 6 or 7 a year

[OKchiefs]

Yeah the Smith for Fuller trade never happened

Fuller is probably best at nickle. On the outside we have promising but still incredibly raw and unproven Ward and pretty much nothing else. So now we're hoping a rookie is ready to step in and hit the ground running from day 1?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Fuller is probably best at nickle. On the outside we have promising but still incredibly raw and unproven Ward and pretty much nothing else. So now we're hoping a rookie is ready to step in and hit the ground running from day 1?


We're just gonna' quit and go fuck ourselves. Yep, that's the plan.

[shammus]

According to PFF, here's the best of what's left on the market....

Breeland ranked as the 100th best CB, defensive score of 58.5
Dennard ranked 52nd, score of 68.2
Melvin ranked 93rd, score of 60.5
Clairborne ranked 75th, score of 62.7
Lawson ranked 91st, score of 60.6
EJ Gaines NOT ranked, score of 58.7

The bad news is Nelson was ranked 33rd with a score of 72.1

The good news is that Tremon Smith was unranked with a score of 47.4. So just about anyone on the list above would be an upgrade over Smith, yes?

[MahiMike]

But his name is Darquez! He must be good.

[Redbled]

According to PFF, here's the best of what's left on the market....

Breeland ranked as the 100th best CB, defensive score of 58.5
Dennard ranked 52nd, score of 68.2
Melvin ranked 93rd, score of 60.5
Clairborne ranked 75th, score of 62.7
Lawson ranked 91st, score of 60.6
EJ Gaines NOT ranked, score of 58.7

The bad news is Nelson was ranked 33rd with a score of 72.1

The good news is that Tremon Smith was unranked with a score of 47.4. So just about anyone on the list above would be an upgrade over Smith, yes?

I wonder how PFF rates turning to make a play on the ball. Anyone ever see any of their specific formulas for CBs? Nelson should not be that high unless that trait is not weighted highly.

[smithandrew051]

We overpay for this horrible football playing piece of shit whose jersey I’ve already bought yet?

[Chief Northman]

We overpay for this horrible football playing piece of shit whose jersey I’ve already bought yet?

This piece of shit thing has run its course.

But I will admit the “whose jersey I’ve already bought” line was funny!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Bring forth the next broken turd for inspection!

[Iconic]

js but the odds of signing this guy are pretty high. I don't think he'd bother visiting if his agent and the Chiefs weren't close on numbers at this point in fa.

[TwistedChief]

The one positive about the Tyreek Hill fiasco is it makes me far less concerned about which brokedick CB we end up signing.

Silver linings....

[ILChief]

This piece of shit thing has run its course.

But I will admit the “whose jersey I’ve already bought” line was funny!

Yeah it’s getting to be like Dilly dilly at this point

[carcosa]

Have we signed this piece of shit yet? Dilly Dilly!!!!!!!!

[MightyMouse]

It's probably just because It's the team I follow and this happens everywhere, but It seems like so often we hear a player is visiting we rarely sign them and most the actually signing come out of nowhere.

[TwistedChief]

It's probably just because It's the team I follow and this happens everywhere, but It seems like so often we hear a player is visiting we rarely sign them and most the actually signing come out of nowhere.

Emmanuel Sanders...
Bashaud Breeland...
Ronald Darby...

[T-post Tom]

Dangnabbit SR...get on FB & make the PP deal happen....capt'n.

[FlaChief58]

Did we Dilly this dung pile yet?

[ptlyon]

Did we Dilly this dung pile yet?

We are dallying on the dilly

[FlaChief58]

We are dallying on the dilly

As long as we don't diddle while we're dallying, WBF.

[Redbled]

js but the odds of signing this guy are pretty high. I don't think he'd bother visiting if his agent and the Chiefs weren't close on numbers at this point in fa.

And I'm not concerned overpaying a bit if it's an easy deal to get out of. Gotta spend this years cap somewhere.

[flinchfree]

And I'm not concerned overpaying a bit if it's an easy deal to get out of. Gotta spend this years cap somewhere.

Trade our 1st pick for Jalen Ramsey and sign to new deal for 5 x 15m.
Sign Suh for 2 x 7.5m.
Go to draft for more d and wr.

First post so please use lube.

[Kramerica]

Trade our 1st pick for Jalen Ramsey and sign to new deal for 5 x 15m.
Sign Suh for 2 x 7.5m.
Go to draft for more d and wr.

First post so please use lube.

The Jags are convinced they are a contender, no way they move Ramsey. Especially not to an AFC team that is expected to compete.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

The Jags are convinced they are a contender, no way they move Ramsey. Especially not to an AFC team that is expected to compete.

yup.

Patrick Peterson or Xavien Howard. They both play on teams that won't be contending for anything anytime soon.

Those should be the targets of a trade (if possible) going forward . . . .

[Naptown Chief]

Is this queef a Chief yet? Dilly dilly

[chiefforlife]

So we got Breeland but I would still like to see them sign Dennard. Cant have enough CBs on this roster. Load Up!

[Hoover]

Give this dip shit the same one year deal as Breeland

[ChiefBlueCFC]

I wanted Dennard out of college for the Chiefs

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Wasn't the CB market fairly meh to begin with?

[O.city]

I'd sign Dennard too.

[Bowser]

I'd sign Dennard too.

Yep

[Buckweath]

The Jags are convinced they are a contender, no way they move Ramsey. Especially not to an AFC team that is expected to compete.

I can't wait until this Ramsey talk die down.

It would be such a bad move.

[The Franchise]

I'd sign Dennard too.

Yep. You'd actually have 3 CBs that could rotate between the outside and the slot with Breeland, Fuller and Dennard.

[O.city]

I can't wait until this Ramsey talk die down.

It would be such a bad move.

why

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Dennard would be a great backup for Fuller if nothing else

[UChieffyBugger]

It would be great to see us sign Dennard AND Tre Boston too. We'd pretty much have a veteran secondary that should be ten times better than what we had last year and you would think they would all be able to pick up Spag's schemes much quicker than a rookie.

[Buckweath]

why

The guy is about to cost a metric ton of money. You already have that huge contract to give to Jones, Hill and especially Mahomes.

His attitude is despicable as far as I am concerned.

He would cost probably more than a 1st round pick.

I would trade for Patrick Peterson a thousand times over Ramsey. It makes a lot more sense.

You think Veach traded Peters partly because he was about to ask for a monster contract just to turn around and trade for Ramsey who will ask for an even bigger contact?. Yeah, no.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Is Ty Law available?

[O.city]

The guy is about to cost a metric ton of money. You already have that huge contract to give to Jones, Hill and especially Mahomes.

His attitude is despicable as far as I am concerned.

He would cost probably more than a 1st round pick.

I would trade for Patrick Peterson a thousand times over Ramsey. It makes a lot more sense.

You think Veach traded Peters partly because he was about to ask for a monster contract just to turn around and trade for Ramsey who will ask for an even bigger contact?. Yeah, no.

Couple things though.

Ramsey is better. A lot better than Peters.

He definitely talks a lot. But he's also the best Cb in football.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The guy is about to cost a metric ton of money. You already have that huge contract to give to Jones, Hill and especially Mahomes.

His attitude is despicable as far as I am concerned.

He would cost probably more than a 1st round pick.

I would trade for Patrick Peterson a thousand times over Ramsey. It makes a lot more sense.

You think Veach traded Peters partly because he was about to ask for a monster contract just to turn around and trade for Ramsey who will ask for an even bigger contact?. Yeah, no.

Agreed. I would love to have PP and keep my eyes peeled towards future drafts to replace or augment him.

[Buckweath]

Couple things though.

Ramsey is better. A lot better than Peters.

He definitely talks a lot. But he's also the best Cb in football.

Peters was poor this past year but during his tenure with the Chiefs, Ramsey was not much better than him. Peters was a legit top 10 CB and borderline top 5 at times.

And just in case you didn't know, Ramsey kind of had a down year last year, just like that whole Jags defense. He was not as good as in 2017. PFF rated him #28 CB BTW last year.

[Buckweath]

Agreed. I would love to have PP and keep my eyes peeled towards future drafts to replace or augment him.
Patrick Peterson would be just perfect for this team. The only thing is Arizona looks like they will make you overpay to get him and he could cost a 1st round pick which is too much.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Patrick Peterson would be just perfect for this team. The only thing is Arizona looks like they will make you overpay to get him and he could cost a 1st round pick which is too much.

Az. doesn't want to let him go and I can certainly understand why. I wouldn't overpay, but I would at least make the phone call and get a dialogue going.

[ChiefGator]

If we can also get Dennard for next year.. look out! Talk about a rebuilt secondary that would be!

[shammus]

I'd love to keep bolstering the secondary, but everything I've read has Dennard wanting 10M+ a year, which I can't really see the Chiefs going for. Essentially he's wanting to be paid as an outside Corner when he's better suited for the slot. Plus, we've already got Fuller there....

To echo what someone said earlier, it's amazing how the players that come in that everyone knows about don't ever seem to get signed. But all of Veach's big signings so far have pretty much come out of nowhere (Watkins, Hitchins, Breeland, Mathieu...etc...) Nobody was even thinking Breeland when he signed this morning. I wonder if Breeland even came in for a visit this time around or if his extended stay in July sufficed?

[thabear04]

Here his college highlights he looks awful.
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[Hoover]

We can trade for PP during the draft!

[TribalElder]

Patrick Peterson might be available around the trade deadline once the cardinals season is over

[ChiefGator]

His college "highlights" aren't bad at all.. besides, his numbers from last year were good in the NFL, where it matters.

He actually did play better when he wasn't in the slot as much (saw the numbers somewhere). So, he isn't crazy to want to move out there. With Fuller and Dennard we would have good flexibility.

[jonzie04]

Here his college highlights he looks awful.
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How is this relevant at all? The dude is going on his 6th year in the NFL...

[MightyMouse]

why are people talking about his college highlights?

[The Franchise]

Hey guys....I pulled this kid's pee wee football highlights...and I gotta say....fucking trash.

[Shoes]

Has this young gentleman determined where he would like to play the game of football in the National Football league by signing his next contract yet?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Not gonna' do jumping jacks over this signing, nor will I dog it.

It just falls in the old meh hamper.

[MightyMouse]

Not gonna' do jumping jacks over this signing, nor will I dog it.

It just falls in the old meh hamper.

I need to see some old family VHS tapes from his childhood before I determine how good he would be for us

[chiefforlife]

Any word if this guy is still scheduled to visit today?

[ptlyon]

Darqueze me, Any word if this guy is still scheduled to visit today?

FYP

[Naptown Chief]

Is this perfect specimen of sculpted human feces a Kansas City Chief yet?

[htismaqe]

If they could get him and Breeland, they'd have considerable flexibility going into the draft...

[FlaChief58]

Is this perfect specimen of sculpted human feces a Kansas City Chief yet?

Sir Veach has offered tow fortnights for sir dingleberry to say yay. If the proposal is rejected, sir dingleberry shall Parrish in the pit of despair. Dilly dilly!

[The Franchise]

I'm pretty sure his visit wasn't until today.

[BleedingRed]

I've stayed away from this thread because he isn't good......... I don't want

[Warrick]

At the right price tag I wouldn't be opposed to this signing. I really want to see Fuller in the slot, and even though Dennard claims he can play on the outside, I wouldn't pay him more than Breeland to see it.

[htismaqe]

At the right price tag I wouldn't be opposed to this signing. I really want to see Fuller in the slot, and even though Dennard claims he can play on the outside, I wouldn't pay him more than Breeland to see it.

Dennard was actually better on the outside than in the slot. He'd be cheap, that's why you do it.

[Warrick]

Yeah, but Dennard has been holding down the slot for most of his Bengals career. If you're going to try to convert him mainly on the outside he better be cheap.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Dennard wants 10 mil a year

[ModSocks]

Dennard wants 10 mil a year

Wish in one hand, shit in the other...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Dennard can suck a cock.

[Tribal Warfare]

Dennard can suck a cock.

Not enough corn and fiber in that piece of shit to sign off to

[Oxford]

You wonder why Breeland was signed now, when he was available and we passed on him? You wonder of we are looking for different skills at CB now with the defensive changes or is it what is available in the draft verses what we need to fill out a roster. I wonder if Keith Reaser has upped his stock with the AAF play.

[Hydrae]

Sir Veach has offered tow fortnights for sir dingleberry to say yay. If the proposal is rejected, sir dingleberry shall Parrish in the pit of despair. Dilly dilly!

Two fortnights? That leave little time before the draft. He must make a decision sooner than that!

[DenverChief]

I guess this went nowhere? Any news?

[Naptown Chief]

I guess this went nowhere? Any news?

As of now he's still a piece of shit

[Buckweath]

I guess this went nowhere? Any news?

At this point, I'd rather they not sign him.

I would like a group of Fuller, Breeland, trade for a good CB, 1st/2nd round pick and Ward.

If they sign Dennard, I feel like they have to draft a 1st round CB or risk having underwhelming CB play, possibly similar to last year.

[DenverChief]

At this point, I'd rather they not sign him.

I would like a group of Fuller, Breeland, trade for a good CB, 1st/2nd round pick and Ward.

If they sign Dennard, I feel like they have to draft a 1st round CB or risk having underwhelming CB play, possibly similar to last year.

that's not happening

[htismaqe]

They're not trading for a CB.

[RunKC]

This team got really good by drafting well.

Keep doing that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

So, when we trade for that CB, which one do you think it will be?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

CB or TE in the draft; make your call.

[Redbled]

CB or TE in the draft; make your call.

Depends if we get another CB in FA to me but I'd be fine getting a TE or WR early. I want Pat to always have more weapons than he may need. This is more true if we end up losing Hunt and Hill in a few month period.

[Naptown Chief]

CB or TE in the draft; make your call.

I think the Hill situation will dictate whether a WR is drafted early or late. I'd love to see an all D draft but bpa should absolutely be a factor. Don't reach by grabbing a 3rd round talent in the 2nd because you need to fill a hole. If there's a stud WR, TE, OL, you get your ass out there and you find that fucking dog

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Depends if we get another CB in FA to me but I'd be fine getting a TE or WR early. I want Pat to always have more weapons than he may need. This is more true if we end up losing Hunt and Hill in a few month period.

Now they have to work an alternative board in to the mix because of the Hill fiasco, so who knows what the fuck they are going to do? If Hill is gone, they aren't going to go with plan A.

[Redbled]

Now they have to work an alternative board in to the mix because of the Hill fiasco, so who knows what the **** they are going to do? If Hill is gone, they aren't going to go with plan A.


I really hope they have answers by then. With average people a case like this can take months in OP. Maybe they rush it a bit due to star power......

[Naptown Chief]

I really hope they have answers by then. With average people a case like this can take months in OP. Maybe they rush it a bit due to star power......

Would be awesome knowing before draft but, because Chiefs, it'll probably be the day before week 1...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I really hope they have answers by then. With average people a case like this can take months in OP. Maybe they rush it a bit due to star power......

There are so few people involved in this that it shouldn't take too long but yes I know that "the process" can drag out forever.

But, that's why Tyreek and Co. have high dollar lawyers to help speed it up.

I hope Dorsey gets a testicular and pancreatic cancer double-combo for Father's Day, that fuck.

[Redbled]

There are so few people involved in this that it shouldn't take too long but yes I know that "the process" can drag out forever.

But, that's why Tyreek and Co. have high dollar lawyers to help speed it up.

I hope Dorsey gets a testicular and pancreatic cancer double-combo for Father's Day, that ****.

The Hunt thing bothers me more as time goes on. Chiefs try and take the high road. Way to soon Dorsey adds the guy back right near where his mistakes have happened. Somehow Goodell needs to fix that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The Hunt thing bothers me more as time goes on. Chiefs try and take the high road. Way to soon Dorsey adds the guy back right near where his mistakes have happened. Somehow Goodell needs to fix that.


Exactly. If a player is released from a team based on misconduct related to violating policy or policies that the NFL deems abhorrent, a different franchise should not be allowed to benefit from that release.

[Rausch]

Exactly. If a player is released from a team based on misconduct related to violating policy or policies that the NFL deems abhorrent, a different franchise should not be allowed to benefit from that release.

That's a damned good point.

[Rausch]

This team got really good by drafting well.

Keep doing that.

Yup.

We are a little better on the D line now so I'd prefer to go CB or FS in the 1st. If we get a chance to move up and take a legit beast DE I have no problem with that either...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That's a damned good point.

I didn't really phrase that worth a shit, but you know what I mean.

The problem with Hunt is, we released him of our own decision as a franchise. Therefore, I don't feel you can put him under that classification which is WHY I say that you should hold on to the player until the league TELLS YOU he can no longer be a player in the NFL.

The league should be made to render a decision, and quickly, so that the team affected can move forward in the most productive way. We should have been told, "Hunt will be suspended for the remainder of the 2018 season and will not be allowed to play "X" number of games in 2019".

But we chose to swiftly, and in my opinion unwisely, to cast him out, making him available for the taking after a rather puny punishment was handed down.

Once the decision has been made by the league, the team can then weigh said decision and decide for themselves whether or not he is worth keeping. If the team lets him go, then the punishment is carried over to any franchise that deems him worthy of signing.

But if the league says, "that's it, you're out", then NO other team should be allowed to claim him.

[Rausch]

I didn't really phrase that worth a shit, but you know what I mean.

The problem with Hunt is, we released him of our own decision as a franchise. Therefore, I don't feel you can put him under that classification which is WHY I say that you should hold on to the player until the league TELLS YOU he can no longer be a player in the NFL.

The league should be made to render a decision, and quickly, so that the team affected can move forward in the most productive way. We should have been told, "Hunt will be suspended for the remainder of the 2018 season and will not be allowed to play "X" number of games in 2019".

But we chose to swiftly, and in my opinion unwisely, to cast him out, making him available for the taking after a rather puny punishment was handed down.

Once the decision has been made by the league, the team can then weigh said decision and decide for themselves whether or not he is worth keeping. If the team lets him go, then the punishment is carried over to any franchise that deems him worthy of signing.

But if the league says, "that's it, you're out", then NO other team should be allowed to claim him.

Perhaps have a tag like the IR where this guy doesn't get paid or take up cap but means you don't have to cut him.

I still can't believe Dorsey moved that quickly on him...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Perhaps have a tag like the IR where this guy doesn't get paid or take up cap but means you don't have to cut him.

I still can't believe Dorsey moved that quickly on him...

Well, I think if you drafted/signed him, you have to own him. That's the caveat of the whole deal. You don't HAVE to release him if the league gives him a time-lined punishment, but you DO have to incur the costs you've agreed to.
And if you DO release him, everything about his situation carries over to the new team, good AND bad. Same punishment, duration and payment of contract etc.