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KCChiefsFan88
05-17-2019, 07:55 AM
Classic display of Brooke Pryor-sized yellow journalism...


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2019/05/17/whats-behind-kansas-city-chiefs-brutal-history-domestic-violence/3683231002/

What's behind the Kansas City Chiefs' brutal history of domestic violence?


No other franchise in the NFL has compiled a record of domestic violence quite as brutal as the Kansas City Chiefs.

► In 2012 alone, the organization had two domestic murder-suicides, one at the hands of a player, Jovan Belcher, and the other at the hands of another employee.

► Since November 2017, three players have been suspended for alleged violence against women or children during their time with the team. The latest is wide receiver Tyreek Hill, whose status in the NFL has been in limbo since an audio recording aired on local TV last month suggesting he broke the arm of his 3-year-old son.

► Since 2015, the team also acquired at least three players who were kicked off of college teams for alleged domestic violence, most recently in April with the trade for defensive end Frank Clark. The other two are Hill and defensive back Justin Cox, who then was released by the team after another arrest.

With this many issues in recent years, questions about the franchise's culture and its efforts to address domestic abuse issues have come to a head ó again.

ďAt some point, itís going to be bad for the Kansas City Chiefsí bottom line if they keep ignoring domestic violence and if they continue to select players with those kinds of histories,Ē said Kim Gandy, president of the National Network to End Domestic Violence.

On Thursday, Chiefs president Mark Donovan met with domestic violence groups, including the parents of Jamie Kimble, who was fatally shot in 2012 by her ex-boyfriend, a Chiefs stadium operations employee who then shot himself. In her memory, her parents started a foundation that promotes building domestic violence policies in the workplace, among other endeavors.

Their goal is to stop it. In the case of the Chiefs, such issues go back decades, all under the ownership of Lamar and Clark Hunt.

The Kimble family didnít return messages seeking comment. Donovan said the meeting covered "education and creating best-in-class awareness of what people can do to help address the issue."

He disputes the notion the Chiefs are an "outlier" in the NFL with domestic violence, at least in the past 10 years. It depends on how the problem is measured. Only two teams ó Denver and Miami ó have recorded more domestic violence arrests or charges since January 2000 than the Chiefs, who have seven with the Belcher murder included, according to USA TODAY Sports' NFL player arrest database. By comparison, Denver and Miami haven't had nearly the same trouble as the Chiefs since the Belcher tragedy, which helped raise awareness of domestic problems in the league, along with the 2014 video footage of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice assaulting his then-fiancee.

The database includes more than 110 domestic citations and more than 930 citations overall but doesnít count incidents that donít result in charges or arrests, such as the recent cases involving Hill and running back Kareem Hunt, who was shown on video last year shoving and kicking a woman before the team released him. In his case, the Chiefs had no tolerance for it, unlike with other ugly cases in team history.

There has been a common denominator in all the Chiefsí successes and failures, on and off the field, through six head coaches over the past 20 years. Since its first year of existence in 1960, the franchise has been owned by the descendants of the former richest man in America, H.L. Hunt, a Texas oil wildcatter and bigamist who sired 15 children with three wives before his death in 1974.

One of those children, Lamar Hunt Sr., founded the franchise in Dallas, relocated it to Kansas City in 1963 and passed along ownership of the team to his children before his own death in 2006.

His son Clark Hunt, 54, is the teamís current controlling owner. He couldn't be reached for comment.

"It's one of the most respected families in all of sports," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told USA TODAY Sports on Thursday. McCarthy added that Chiefs players have done exemplary work off the field and lead the league with five NFL "Man of the Year" recipients since 1970. Donovan also stresses the high esteem of the Hunt family in Kansas City and the fact that the Chiefs have one of the best programs in the league for player engagement, according to the NFL.

The extended Hunt family still has its own complicated history with domestic abuse ó which has claimed about one in four women in the U.S. as victims, according to research cited by the National Domestic Violence Hotline.

► In 1999, Chiefs co-owner Lamar Hunt Jr. was sued in civil court for allegedly sexually assaulting his mentally disabled sister-in-law two years earlier. The case was settled for around $2 million, according to the Dallas Morning News. Hunt Jr. didnít return messages seeking comment.

► In 2002, Al Hill Jr., H.L. Huntís eldest grandson, pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault. Hill, a former business partner of his uncle Lamar Hunt Sr., was required to attend 24 weeks of batterer intervention counseling, the Morning News reported. He died in 2017.

► Another offspring of H.L. Hunt, daughter June Hunt, has made the issue a personal cause as a Christian counselor who teaches about recovery from abuse. She has written books called How to Rise Above Abuse and How to Deal with Difficult Relationships. A representative said she wanted to talk to her family before commenting.

In Kansas City, Clark Hunt has taken a more corporate approach to the problem, similar to other NFL owners who have faced varying degrees of domestic cases. The difference with the Chiefs is the severity of recent incidents and their number of domestic cases, which is double the league average, according to the database.

The list includes former running back Larry Johnson, who faced two domestic cases and two others involving alleged abuse against women during his time with the team from 2003 to 2009.

"They were more upset about the image it cast," Johnson told USA TODAY Sports this month about Chiefsí ownershipís response to his incidents. Regarding Clark Hunt, Johnson said, "Heís always been business, business, business, and he only cares about the guys he cares about."

The first time he was arrested with the Chiefs, in 2003, Johnson was accused of slapping his girlfriend and threatening her with a gun. That case led him into anger-management classes and a diversion program, his first test of tolerance with the franchise. At the time of his arrest, head coach Dick Vermeil said in the Kansas City Star that "I've been told his side of it, and I believe him ... (I) always believe the player. You know him so well. I always go on that side."

Johnson, now 39 and retired, since has watched how the team has dealt with the cases of Kareem Hunt and Hill.

"I donít think theyíre really equipped to handle these kids," Johnson said. "You have old men who donít hang around young black kids the majority of their lives. They only look at us as far as stock or employees. Thatís all they know of us."

That dynamic is not exclusive to the Chiefs. It also wasnít the first time the Chiefs gave multiple chances to a talented young player, as shown in a sequence in 1994 that would be shocking by todayís standards.

On Jan. 4 of that year, wide receiver Tim Barnett was sentenced in court to 10 days in jail after pleading guilty to assault and battery against his wife the previous year ó his second domestic case in about 15 months.

Four days later, the Chiefs played the Pittsburgh Steelers in a playoff game at home. The team ó and a judge ó allowed Barnett to play despite his jail sentence, and he ended up catching a dramatic touchdown pass from quarterback Joe Montana in the fourth quarter to help force overtime and eventually win. It was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff game at home until this year, but it wasnít a happy ending for Barnett.

About five months later, he was accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old hotel maid in Milwaukee. The Chiefs finally released him afterward. He later was sentenced to three years in prison for the incident and never played in the NFL again.

"Itís not that they gave me chances," Barnett told USA TODAY Sports recently. "They made me go through the things I had to go through. It wasnít like they just turned their heads, and said, 'OK, no problem.' Thatís not the case. You have to go through the counseling and all the procedures."

McCarthy said the Chiefs were one of the first teams to have a full-time licensed clinician on hand to address mental health issues. Asked about what the team does to support players who join the Chiefs with prior domestic histories, Donovan said every situation is different.

"Without going through the specifics ... I would say confidently that we do as much, if not more, than any other team in the National Football League," Donovan told USA TODAY Sports.

Domestic violence experts still are alarmed by the recent history.

Gandy, the domestic violence expert, is particularly worried about two aspects in the case involving Tyreek Hill.

In 2015, he pleaded guilty to assaulting and choking his girlfriend at Oklahoma State. He was kicked off the team, put on probation and required to complete a battererís intervention program.

"It was a strangulation case, which is a significant predictor for lethal violence in the future and homicide," Gandy noted, citing research that shows that if domestic violence victims have been strangled in the past by a domestic partner, their risk of being killed by them is 10 times higher.

Gandy also referenced the audio recording that aired last month in which his fiancee Ė the same women he assaulted in college Ė is heard talking about how their young son is terrified of him.

"You need to be terrified of me, too, (expletive)," Hill replies on the audio.

Combined with his prior strangulation case, "that scares the hell out of me," Gandy said.

Two murder-suicides already haunt the franchise ó the one that cost 31-year-old Jamie Kimble her life in September 2012 and the one that overshadowed it three months later. Thatís when Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, before driving to the team training facility and killing himself. Police said then the team had been aware of the coupleís problems and provided counseling.

At the time, it seemed like a seminal moment for the team and the NFL. But it wasnít. It wasnít until the rise of social media and easy video-sharing that the NFL got significantly tougher on punishing domestic offenders ó in direct response to public outrage over seeing what domestic violence actually looked like.

Before 2014, such offenders often got no more than two-game suspensions from the NFL, which largely deferred to the judicial system, where such crimes can be difficult to prosecute because of uncooperative witnesses.

That all changed in 2014, when Rice was arrested for hitting his then-fiancŤ at an Atlantic City casino. The NFL initially gave him a two-game suspension after he entered a pretrial intervention program through the court. Then came the video. TMZ aired it later that year, showing Rice knocking the woman unconscious in an elevator. Rice never played again after that. The NFL since has issued longer suspensions even in cases without charges or arrests, such as with Kareem Hunt, now with the Cleveland Browns and suspended for eight games.

He likewise might never have been released by the Chiefs without TMZ airing the video of him at a hotel in February 2018.

After that aired in November, Clark Hunt (no relation to Kareem Hunt) told reporters "our scouting staff does a really good job of vetting players, and part of that analysis is their character. Obviously itís very hard to learn everything about somebody. ... Weíre certainly going to try to get better but I donít think you can ever be perfect in that regard."

The child abuse investigation soon followed with Hill, a Pro Bowl player who also appeared to have escaped trouble until the audio recording aired last month. An attorney for Hill has disputed the claims in the recording, but Hill since has been suspended indefinitely as the team and the league decide what to do next.

Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said the public visibility of NFL teams should make them wary of acquiring or keeping players with domestic histories, and not just because domestic assailants often re-offend. Itís also because putting up with it sends a public message that itís not a big deal. This is why the NFL has tougher standards than the regular judicial system for alleged perpetrators ó even though data shows that NFL players are arrested with less frequency than the general population.

"It may hurt the bottom line, which is money ... but if you really care about this culture and this nation, you will listen to your values and say, 'Heís a great player, but do we really want him representing our team, to really put that message out there that itís OK?' " Glenn said.

Like other teams, the Chiefs consider background checks on player prospects and weigh personnel decisions on a sliding scale of risk vs. investment and talent. The better the player, the harder the decision can be to cut ties with him, unless thereís powerful video of the incident. There was no video of Larry Johnsonís incidents, for example.

"I was a first-round pick," Johnson told USA TODAY Sports. "They werenít going to just release me because youíre just not going to release me ó almost the same as Tyreek Hill situation. Itíd hit newspaper, go to court, case would drop, Iíd plead no contest, never do jail time.Ē

The decision wasnít as hard for the Chiefs in November 2017, when Roy Miller, a backup defensive lineman, was arrested after a domestic incident with his wife, who had marks on her face and neck, according to the police report in Jacksonville, Florida. The Chiefs cut him two days later. He later entered a diversion program and was suspended by the NFL for six games.

He never played in the league again but was back in the news last month when he was arrested on a child-abuse charge.

He has pleaded not guilty. His ex-wife didnít return a message seeking comment.

A decision is still pending on Hill.

"We havenít made a decision on the Tyreek stuff, and thatís because we havenít gathered all the information, and I think the league is still in the process of that," Donovan said. "We gathered the information on Kareem Hunt, and we made a decision. And we go through the same process. Itís a process thatís important to our culture. Itís important to our organization. Itís important to being a member of this community."

staylor26
05-17-2019, 07:58 AM
Seriously, all of these SJW media members can go fuck themselves.

It’s okay for Hunt to be a Brown and Clark to be a Seahawk, but we’re a POS organization when they’re on our team?

carcosa
05-17-2019, 07:59 AM
Aside from the extreme outlier of the Belcher case, you could write basically this same story about literally every other franchise in the NFL.

InChiefsHeaven
05-17-2019, 08:00 AM
Seriously, all of these SJW media members can go **** themselves.

Itís okay for Hunt to be a Brown and Clark to be a Seahawk, but weíre a POS organization when theyíre on our team?

Because Chiefs. Wear it like the badge of honor that it is!

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:02 AM
I'd like to know how the Jamie Kimball thing has anything to do with the players.

ptlyon
05-17-2019, 08:03 AM
We bad! Uh huh!

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:03 AM
Not one false statement in that article.

FringeNC
05-17-2019, 08:03 AM
SJWs putting the screws to the Chiefs to shame them into cutting Hill...

ROYC75
05-17-2019, 08:04 AM
Social media and the media are out to nail Hill.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 08:05 AM
Kiss our ass and our Lombardi.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-17-2019, 08:05 AM
Aside from the extreme outlier of the Belcher case, you could write basically this same story about literally every other franchise in the NFL.

The article states directly that the Chiefs have had double the amount of incidents as the NFL average.

ptlyon
05-17-2019, 08:06 AM
Kiss our ass and our Lombardi.

Signed, the Patriots

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:06 AM
The Ravens have something like 35 arrests in a 4 year period, lets not act like it's not every team.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 08:07 AM
if you really care about this culture and this nation

We don't.

We're here to play football.

I'm sure the media does though, because you clowns are so much better than everyone else.

ptlyon
05-17-2019, 08:07 AM
The Ravens have something like 35 arrests in a 4 year period, lets not act like it's not every team.

That don't count. That's history.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:07 AM
Of course.

Easy 6
05-17-2019, 08:07 AM
Seriously, all of these SJW media members can go fuck themselves.

Itís okay for Hunt to be a Brown and Clark to be a Seahawk, but weíre a POS organization when theyíre on our team?

/thread

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:08 AM
If you really care about all these issues and they really matter to you, stop supporting the NFL, that's it period.

Gravedigger
05-17-2019, 08:08 AM
Don't fall for the clickbait my brethren, the person who judges the tree by the few bad apples it grows every year, is a fucking idiot. Where's the piece on the countless charities and group created by past and present players that have helped the community in a multitude of ways? No? Nothing?

Redbled
05-17-2019, 08:10 AM
They just hate that a team so insignificant to them has Mahomes. Drink their tears.

staylor26
05-17-2019, 08:10 AM
The article states directly that the Chiefs have had double the amount of incidents as the NFL average.

Youíre such a fucking faggot.

Like Mecca said, if it bothers you, stop watching the NFL period because the rest of the league doesnít care any more than the Chiefs do.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:11 AM
I'm honestly so tired of some of these opinions like really someone like Eleazor should just not watch the NFL, sometimes you have to accept the reality of what shit is and if you can't handle it move on to something that jives with your moral compass.

ChiefBlueCFC
05-17-2019, 08:12 AM
I mean you could easily expand this to the entire league. It's not like the Chiefs are the only team that has experienced players with issues in the past or present. But, you know why try and show the entire picture. Just focus on one team, sure.

Not condoning what has happened with some of these players, but when you have a coach like Andy who has a history of giving second chances, what do you expect?

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:12 AM
The article states directly that the Chiefs have had double the amount of incidents as the NFL average.

who cares if the players are abusing women and children, the chiefs winning boosts my self-worth while I watch from my couch in my XXXL Mahomes jersey

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:13 AM
who cares if the players are abusing women and children, the chiefs winning boosts my self-worth while I watch from my couch in my XXXL Mahomes jersey

Nice way of projecting there.

Nixhex
05-17-2019, 08:15 AM
If these players mentioned in the article weren't on the Chiefs they would be on other teams. This is more of an "NFL" issue than just a "Chiefs" issue. Nice of them to single out one team though.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:16 AM
The article states directly that the Chiefs have had double the amount of incidents as the NFL average.

The article also states that you should drink double the amount of antifreeze.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:16 AM
If these players mentioned in the article weren't on the Chiefs they would be on other teams. This is more of an "NFL" issue than just a "Chiefs" issue. Nice of them to single out one team though.

The Chiefs are a threat to their big market Patriots.

Marcellus
05-17-2019, 08:17 AM
The article states directly that the Chiefs have had double the amount of incidents as the NFL average.

I remember when people like you used to rail about how the team cared more about character than talent and winning.

You
Dane
Mecca
DeezNutz
OTWP

Off the top of my head.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:17 AM
If these players mentioned in the article weren't on the Chiefs they would be on other teams. This is more of an "NFL" issue than just a "Chiefs" issue. Nice of them to single out one team though.

Itís a problem across the league, but when one team has more than twice the number of issues that the average team does, they open themselves up to more criticism

staylor26
05-17-2019, 08:17 AM
What could the Chiefs have done differently with Belcher?

Nothing.

What could the Chiefs have done differently with Hunt?

Nothing.

Both guys had absolutely no history of DV.

You want the Chiefs to cut Hill? They would if he weren’t going to be picked up by some other team. That’s a league problem, not the Chiefs. Forgive us for not wanting to get fucked in the ass for a 2nd time in less than a year.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:18 AM
who cares if the players are abusing women and children, the chiefs winning boosts my self-worth while I watch from my couch in my XXXL Mahomes jersey

You are more transsexual than Caitlyn Jenner.

TravelingChiefs
05-17-2019, 08:18 AM
So Denver and Miami has more problems than the Chiefs but the Chiefs are the worst. I noticed they buried that nugget deep in the article.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 08:19 AM
The extended Hunt family still has its own complicated history with domestic abuse — which has claimed about one in four women in the U.S. as victims, according to research cited by the National Domestic Violence Hotline.

► In 1999, Chiefs co-owner Lamar Hunt Jr. was sued in civil court for allegedly sexually assaulting his mentally disabled sister-in-law two years earlier. The case was settled for around $2 million, according to the Dallas Morning News. Hunt Jr. didn’t return messages seeking comment.

► In 2002, Al Hill Jr., H.L. Hunt’s eldest grandson, pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault. Hill, a former business partner of his uncle Lamar Hunt Sr., was required to attend 24 weeks of batterer intervention counseling, the Morning News reported. He died in 2017.

Fuck these clowns. Dragging the Hunt name through the mud trying to make some connection between an incident Tyreek Hill had BEFORE HE WAS ON THE TEAM and something Lamar Jr., who has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TEAM, did years ago.

FUCK. THESE. CLOWNS.

srvy
05-17-2019, 08:20 AM
Hmmm I wonder who investigates these news media personalities? It probably would eclipse anything in the NFL. The me to movement took a pretty large swipe at network news turds.

TEX
05-17-2019, 08:20 AM
who cares if the players are abusing women and children, the chiefs winning boosts my self-worth while I watch from my couch in my XXXL Mahomes jersey

If it bothers you so much, don't watch or follow the Chiefs / NFL. We don't care what you do. The end.

BUT NOOOOOOOO, you, and those who think like you, want to impose your way of thinking on the rest of society, who doesn't feel the same way. That's a very real problem...

Who cares about "innocent until proven guilty", or "due process?" I just want to pass judgment, without all the facts, so I can feel superior and wear my SJW T-shirt.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:20 AM
I remember when people like you used to rail about how the team cared more about character than talent and winning.

You
Dane
Mecca
DeezNutz
OTWP

Off the top of my head.

I did...no lie but if you notice, I'm not double speaking I still don't care about it.

Simply Red
05-17-2019, 08:22 AM
we'll be fine.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:22 AM
Itís a problem across the league, but when one team has more than twice the number of issues that the average team does, they open themselves up to more criticism

Fuck, USA Today said it, so it MUST be true....

staylor26
05-17-2019, 08:23 AM
I did...no lie but if you notice, I'm not double speaking I still don't care about it.

Exactly, youíre consistent.

mac459
05-17-2019, 08:23 AM
www.nflarrest.com

This is a website that tracks arrests by team and what the arrests were for. Don’t know how accurate it is, but it looks like everyone’s favorite team leads the way.

srvy
05-17-2019, 08:23 AM
who cares if the players are abusing women and children, the chiefs winning boosts my self-worth while I watch from my couch in my XXXL Mahomes jersey

:LOL::LOL:

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rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:25 AM
So Denver and Miami has more problems than the Chiefs but the Chiefs are the worst. I noticed they buried that nugget deep in the article.

But Hamas and Eleazar just picked picked up on the 'worser than all the other teams and stuff' agenda of the article.

Does that include the Aaron Hernandez??

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:25 AM
It’s telling that no one here can say anything against the fact that the Chiefs are one of the league’s worst offenders in the area of domestic violence. All we can do is emote and be angry at people for pointing that fact out, because we’re afraid that addressing the problems might make our team a little less successful.

Marcellus
05-17-2019, 08:25 AM
who cares if the players are abusing women and children, the chiefs winning boosts my self-worth while I watch from my couch in my XXXL Mahomes jersey

Did you ever hear a peep about Belcher having any kind of issues that would lead anyone to believe he would do something like what he did when the chiefs signed him as an UDFA?

If you remember when he started having problems the Chiefs got him and his GF into counseling.

What else were they supposed to do there? I have no idea how anyone can blame the Chiefs for the Belcher deal or the other employee that killed his wife and himself.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 08:25 AM
Bringing up Tim Barnett, too. LMAO

I mean, how many skeletons can you drag out of the closet trying to make a case that the Chiefs are run by monsters?

Fucking tards.

ROYC75
05-17-2019, 08:26 AM
Typical East Coast bashing.

Marcellus
05-17-2019, 08:26 AM
I did...no lie but if you notice, I'm not double speaking I still don't care about it.

I am aware you have been consistent.

O.city
05-17-2019, 08:26 AM
When you pick players with this kind of history and shit happens, you’re gonna wear it

It is what it is

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 08:26 AM
Itís telling that no one here can say anything against the fact that the Chiefs are one of the leagueís worst offenders in the area of domestic violence. All we can do is emote and be angry at people for pointing that fact out, because weíre afraid that addressing the problems might make our team a little less successful.

Kareem Hunt didn't assault anyone. He used his leg to push off a crazy bitch who was acting crazy.

There's no evidence Tyreek Hill has done anything wrong.

Fuck all this shit.

staylor26
05-17-2019, 08:27 AM
It’s telling that no one here can say anything against the fact that the Chiefs are one of the league’s worst offenders in the area of domestic violence. All we can do is emote and be angry at people for pointing that fact out, because we’re afraid that addressing the problems might make our team a little less successful.

We’re angry because this is a league wide problem, but instead of acknowledging that it’s a witch hunt and the Chiefs are the witch.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:27 AM
Itís telling that no one here can say anything against the fact that the Chiefs are one of the leagueís worst offenders in the area of domestic violence. All we can do is emote and be angry at people for pointing that fact out, because weíre afraid that addressing the problems might make our team a little less successful.

Well if we're all such terrible people like the Chiefs maybe you should log out of the forum and not return and find a new hobby?

Marcellus
05-17-2019, 08:27 AM
When you pick players with this kind of history and shit happens, youíre gonna wear it

It is what it is

Besides Hill who had this kind of history?

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:28 AM
I am aware you have been consistent.

Being squeeky clean choir boys will never win shit..matter of fact I don't even know if you could field a team if you built it that way.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:28 AM
Kareem Hunt didn't assault anyone. He used his leg to push off a crazy bitch who was acting crazy.

There's no evidence Tyreek Hill has done anything wrong.

**** all this shit.

Keep telling yourself that this long pattern of issues is all completely made up

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:28 AM
:LOL::LOL:

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I am pretty much a saint I guess. All my years on the earth and Iíve never punched a woman or a child

RunKC
05-17-2019, 08:28 AM
This same shit happened in to Andy in Philly when he brought in Vick.

This will pass with time. A year from now nobody will give a shit about this.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:29 AM
In reality other than Hill, who have the Chiefs actively brought in that had supposed issues?

Frank Clark I guess? and if you are into that one that means you think even if someone fucked up years ago he deserves no benefit of the doubt.

TravelingChiefs
05-17-2019, 08:29 AM
www.nflarrest.com

This is a website that tracks arrests by team and what the arrests were for. Donít know how accurate it is, but it looks like everyoneís favorite team leads the way.

KC is 11th in DV. What a bunch of bullshit!

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 08:29 AM
Keep telling yourself that this long pattern of issues is all completely made up

They're making mountains out of molehills.

Maybe they could dig up a second cousin of Clark Hunt who killed some ants with a magnifying glass.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:29 AM
Well if we're all such terrible people like the Chiefs maybe you should log out of the forum and not return and find a new hobby?

This.

So much this.

Go join an activist site. Talk to some people who already feel like you do.

Or keep wasting your time here, choice is yours. You have freedom (see what I did there)?

TEX
05-17-2019, 08:29 AM
This same shit happened to Philly in Andy when he brought in Vick.

This will pass with time. A year from now nobody will give a shit about this.

Eleazar will pretend she does. ROFL

O.city
05-17-2019, 08:30 AM
Besides Hill who had this kind of history?

The guy they traded for and gave a big deal to?

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 08:30 AM
Ratio these fucks. Embarrass them.

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srvy
05-17-2019, 08:31 AM
Itís telling that no one here can say anything against the fact that the Chiefs are one of the leagueís worst offenders in the area of domestic violence. All we can do is emote and be angry at people for pointing that fact out, because weíre afraid that addressing the problems might make our team a little less successful.

:LOL:The moral majority:LOL:

Elezar is Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson rolled up into one.

https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_300/MTIwNjA4NjMzODA3OTMwODky/jerry-falwell-9291425-1-402.jpg
https://www.joemygod.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/PatRobertson2019.png

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:32 AM
Elezar is frustrating, always front in center in these types of threads virtue signalling all over the place.

O.city
05-17-2019, 08:32 AM
In reality other than Hill, who have the Chiefs actively brought in that had supposed issues?

Frank Clark I guess? and if you are into that one that means you think even if someone ****ed up years ago he deserves no benefit of the doubt.

With the whole hill situation and the hunt one last year, trading for Clark brings up issues

Again, it is what it is

Frazod
05-17-2019, 08:33 AM
Itís telling that no one here can say anything against the fact that the Chiefs are one of the leagueís worst offenders in the area of domestic violence. All we can do is emote and be angry at people for pointing that fact out, because weíre afraid that addressing the problems might make our team a little less successful.

You mean like not winning a Super Bowl in 50 fucking years?

Seriously, fuck off.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:34 AM
With the whole hill situation and the hunt one last year, trading for Clark brings up issues

Again, it is what it is

Question, what's more important?

Winning or the character of every player on the team? If you would actively rather have a less talented team because they are good people, you have the wrong hobby, plain and simple.

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 08:35 AM
The narrative doesn't bother me as long as it's not a distraction. What bothers me big time is that not only is there not a hit piece on Dorsey, they're actually rooting for kareem hunt as a reform story. If the media hates what the Chiefs are, that is on Dorsey way more than it is veach or even hunt.

Marcellus
05-17-2019, 08:36 AM
The guy they traded for and gave a big deal to?

Ok so we have 2 people in how long?

The stuff about the Hunt family is kind of laughable. Imagine if you went digging in everyone's family history and pulled out all the skeletons.

Let the first person here who doesn't have a couple piece of shit relatives raise their hand.

O.city
05-17-2019, 08:36 AM
Question, what's more important?

Winning or the character of every player on the team? If you would actively rather have a less talented team because they are good people, you have the wrong hobby, plain and simple.

I donít think anyone is saying that by character and culture do matter

Talent is talent for sure but you canít have a locker room full of assholes

carcosa
05-17-2019, 08:38 AM
The article states directly that the Chiefs have had double the amount of incidents as the NFL average.

And so that means the Chiefs organization has some unique cultural predisposition towards domestic violence?

This article makes it seem like DV is a Kansas City Chiefs issue, not an NFL issue or an American issue or a global issue. It draws some pretty tenuous lines between things like the extended Hunt family's distant past, some nobody stadium operations guy who killed his ex, and the Kareem Hunt incident-- which, by the way, wasn't even domestic violence. But that distinction gets lost in the process of trying to fit everything into their pre-determined conclusion.

The Chiefs absolutely need to get better about this sort of thing. But so does every other professional sports team on earth, regardless of the precise statistics. So does America as a whole. This is a society that consistently devalues women, and that's fucked up. But this article does a disservice to that fact by narrowing the focus to a single football team and treating it like the disease and not just one of countless symptoms.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:38 AM
:LOL:The moral majority:LOL:

Elezar is Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson rolled up into one.


Yes, I have the crazy idea that you can win without garbage human beings on the roster

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:38 AM
I donít think anyone is saying that by character and culture do matter

Talent is talent for sure but you canít have a locker room full of assholes

What if the players like Hill and Clark?

I know Frank Clark was well liked in Seattle.

TEX
05-17-2019, 08:39 AM
Not one false statement in that article.

Here's the problem - sometimes there might be no false statement in an article. However, said article becomes a hit piece when it paints a picture that's not accurate. Be honest, when you read the article, you took it that the Chiefs were the #1 offender in the NFL regarding DV cases. WHY? Because THAT'S EXACTLY what this type of article is meant to infer. Yet, the FACT is the Chiefs are nowhere near the top of the list - they're 11th.

http://www.nflarrest.com/

This should be a teachable moment for you. Problem is, it won't be.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:39 AM
Yes, I have the crazy idea that you can win without garbage human beings on the roster

Yea it worked so well for the previous 50 years.

O.city
05-17-2019, 08:39 AM
Ok so we have 2 people in how long?

The stuff about the Hunt family is kind of laughable. Imagine if you went digging in everyone's family history and pulled out all the skeletons.

Let the first person here who doesn't have a couple piece of shit relatives raise their hand.

Again, when you add those 2 to the hunt thing last year and the belcher thing it can be made to look like the organization is a little tone deaf to it

I donít know why you guys are all wound up about it. It is what it is

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:40 AM
Belcher lost his fucking mind, that doesn't mean the team can't ever take another chance on a player again.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:40 AM
Yea it worked so well for the previous 50 years.

And the Bengals model won all 50 of those Super Bowls?

We never won it all because we never had a quarterback. Now we do. We donít need a prison gang, we just needed a quarterback.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:41 AM
Everyone made tons of jokes about the Cowboys...how many bowls did they win?

RunKC
05-17-2019, 08:41 AM
Ok so we have 2 people in how long?

The stuff about the Hunt family is kind of laughable. Imagine if you went digging in everyone's family history and pulled out all the skeletons.

Let the first person here who doesn't have a couple piece of shit relatives raise their hand.

Yup

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2014/09/18/john-elways-son-gets-probation-in-domestic-violence-case/amp/

FringeNC
05-17-2019, 08:41 AM
Why is this even on the Chiefs? Cry to the NFL about it. The Chiefs immediately cut Hunt; the NFL gave him a slap on the wrist. Who there is trivializing domestic violence?

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 08:42 AM
Weíre angry because this is a league wide problem, but instead of acknowledging that itís a witch hunt and the Chiefs are the witch.

Like it or not, when we picked up tyreek we knew this was the baggage that came along with it. Other teams knew too considering how low he fell. Regardless of if he behaved or didn't behave the entire teams behavior would be put under a microscope. Whether he's guilty or not guilty, he clearly put himself in a position where this was going to resurface some things. Its hard for us to be outraged or surprised by this. The article is not wrong. But as a fan, I've chosen not to really give a shit as long as we win.

Marcellus
05-17-2019, 08:42 AM
Belcher lost his ****ing mind, that doesn't mean the team can't ever take another chance on a player again.

Exactly, Belcher had no clues in his background and the team tried to help when he started having problems. WTF else are they supposed to do?

We had an employee kidnap his ex wife, tie her up and throw her in a pond, luckily she didn't die. He ended up killing himself.

Is that our fault? **** no its not.

TEX
05-17-2019, 08:42 AM
Why is this even on the Chiefs? Cry to the NFL about it. The Chiefs immediately cut Hunt; the NFL gave him a slap on the wrist. Who there is trivializing domestic violence?

Because that FACT won't support the narrative here.

Rain Man
05-17-2019, 08:42 AM
Didn't someone do an analysis recently that showed other teams with more of a history of this than the Chiefs? Like, weren't the Broncos the top team?

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:43 AM
Belcher lost his ****ing mind, that doesn't mean the team can't ever take another chance on a player again.

CTE says "what?"

TEX
05-17-2019, 08:43 AM
Didn't someone do an analysis recently that showed other teams with more of a history of this than the Chiefs? Like, weren't the Broncos the top team?

Yep. KC is 11th, as someone earlier pointed out.

http://www.nflarrest.com/

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:43 AM
Exactly, Belcher had no clues in his background and the team tried to help when he started having problems. WTF else are they supposed to do?

We had an employee kidnap his ex wife, tie her up and throw her in a pond, luckily she didn't die. He ended up killing himself.

Is that our fault? **** no its not.

Obviously your employer is an asshole who needs to watch who he hires, it's all their fault man.

O.city
05-17-2019, 08:44 AM
What if the players like Hill and Clark?

I know Frank Clark was well liked in Seattle.

Sure and if were just Frank Clark I doubt anyone would have a problem with it


For as much shit as you guys give the ďshowĒ some of you are pretty triggered about it

staylor26
05-17-2019, 08:44 AM
Like it or not, when we picked up tyreek we knew this was the baggage that came along with it. Other teams knew too considering how low he fell. Regardless of if he behaved or didn't behave the entire teams behavior would be put under a microscope. Whether he's guilty or not guilty, he clearly put himself in a position where this was going to resurface some things. Its hard for us to be outraged or surprised by this. The article is not wrong. But as a fan, I've chosen not to really give a shit as long as we win.

.

Here's the problem - sometimes there might be no false statement in an article. However, said article becomes a hit piece when it paints a picture that's not accurate. Be honest, when you read the article, you took it that the Chiefs were the #1 offender in the NFL regarding DV cases. WHY? Because THAT'S EXACTLY what this type of article is meant to infer. Yet, the FACT is the Chiefs are nowhere near the top of the list - they're 11th.

http://www.nflarrest.com/

This should be a teachable moment for you. Problem is, it won't be.

O.city
05-17-2019, 08:45 AM
I think a lot of it isn’t necessarily about the number but the timing of it all


Once pat starts throwing tds in September I doubt anyone will care

Rain Man
05-17-2019, 08:46 AM
Yep. KC is 11th, as someone earlier pointed out.

http://www.nflarrest.com/

Maybe the hit pieces just come when you're the top team in the NFL. You know, like what goes on with the murdering, ball-deflating, jersey tampering, illegal filming Patriots.

The Franchise
05-17-2019, 08:47 AM
If it such a huge problem....then the NFL should start banning players with incidents before they get to the league. What’s that? They can’t? Then shut the fuck up then.

RunKC
05-17-2019, 08:49 AM
If it such a huge problem....then the NFL should start banning players with incidents before they get to the league. Whatís that? They canít? Then shut the **** up then.

Fucking this.

The NFL just celebrated the Titans for drafting a player in the first round who is ON TAPE clocking a woman.

They celebrated that pick like it was a ďstealĒ. And are those fucks getting heat? Heíll no.

Seriously fuck these motherfucking SJWís and their bullshit.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:49 AM
Maybe the hit pieces just come when you're the top team in the NFL. You know, like what goes on with the murdering, ball-deflating, jersey tampering, illegal filming Patriots.

Hmmm...

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 08:50 AM
And the Bengals model won all 50 of those Super Bowls?

We never won it all because we never had a quarterback. Now we do. We donít need a prison gang, we just needed a quarterback.

The Bengals had big problems because their players were a distraction. Including playing like scumbags and racking up costly dumb penalties at dumb times. our players are generally good teammates and well liked in the locker room. Tyreek is a little different situation but I'm of the mindset that the Chiefs responsibility is to determine if he's worth the risk and the distraction. It should be the NFLs job to enforce consistent punishment and theyve utterly failed, leaving teams in a tough spot. Kareem showed there's no reward for teams that "do the right thing" so what's the incentive

Marcellus
05-17-2019, 08:51 AM
I think a lot of it isnít necessarily about the number but the timing of it all


Once pat starts throwing tds in September I doubt anyone will care

Mahomes is the soap that cleans all that is dirty.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 08:51 AM
Here is the database I assume they are using to come up with their "double" the "average" figure. Looks to me like several other teams are right up there with the Chiefs. Picking just the Chiefs to bash in this article is purely related to the Hill story and trying to get clicks. Either way, domestic violence in the NFL is a big issue. Why can't guys just walk away man. Shit is crazy.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

I don't understand why CP is so triggered about the idea of losing Hill. This team is a Super Bowl favorite even if they cut Hill today.

Nixhex
05-17-2019, 08:52 AM
Yep. KC is 11th, as someone earlier pointed out.

http://www.nflarrest.com/

KC domestic violence charges is 6. Denver is 13.

bobbything
05-17-2019, 08:52 AM
What’s behind the Minnesota Vikings’ brutal history with domestic violence?

Just for fun, I picked a seemingly innocuous NFL team and dug into their history of domestic violence.

See? Anyone can do this…

In 1996 defensive end James Harris was arrested for domestic assault
In 1999 safety Orlando Thomas was arrested for assaulting his wife
In 2002 wide receiver Randy Moss hit a female police officer with his car
In 2005 Daunte Culpepper, Moe Williams, Fred Smoot, Bryant McKinnie were arrested for “lewd conduct” involving a stripper
In 2005 tackle Kevin Williams was arrested for domestic assault
In 2011 cornerback Chris Cook was arrested for domestic assault
In 2013 cornerback AJ Jefferson was arrested for domestic assault
In 2014 running back Adrian Peterson was arrested for child endangerment
In 2018 receiver Cayleb Jones was arrested for domestic assault and felony theft

Edit: and if we're being honest, the Belcher situation is much more of a mental health issue than a domestic violence issue. I hate it when people bring it up as if it's some sort of parallel to Hill's situation.

Superturtle
05-17-2019, 08:54 AM
Why are so many of you getting triggered? Hill situation is all but over besides the token suspension. Leave it and move on.

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 08:54 AM
.

That has nothing to do with what I said. Regardless of where we are on that list, we knew damn well what we were getting into PR wise when we picked tyreek hill.

staylor26
05-17-2019, 08:56 AM
I don't understand why CP is so triggered about the idea of losing Hill. This team is a Super Bowl favorite even if they cut Hill today.

Ummm maybe because some other team will just be allowed to scoop him up for cheap after he gets a slap on the wrist with little to no backlash from these same media members?

There’s also the fact that he hasn’t been charged with anything and likely won’t be.

And no, losing Tyreek hurts our SB chances this year. To think otherwise is retarded.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 08:57 AM
You don't lose the most explosive player in the league and have no consequence from it, acting that way is dumb at best.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:57 AM
I don't understand why CP is so triggered about the idea of losing Hill. This team is a Super Bowl favorite even if they cut Hill today.

They couldn't even beat the Patriots WITH Hill, lost to them twice last year.

Got shut out in the 1st half of the AFCCG, iirc...

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 08:58 AM
You don't lose the most explosive player in the league and have no consequence from it, acting that way is dumb at best.

Look at the source of that information, though...

Titty Meat
05-17-2019, 08:58 AM
Every article written you disagree with = hit piece

this site has turned into Arrowhead Addict

srvy
05-17-2019, 08:59 AM
I am pretty much a saint I guess. All my years on the earth and Iíve never punched a woman or a child

As far as we know.

BigBeauford
05-17-2019, 09:00 AM
The Chiefs are angling to be one of the next household franchises (like the patriots, packers, steelers, cowboys) thanks to Mahomes. With that comes the extra scrutiny and national stories like this one. Fans need to be able to handle the spotlight of their team and not get so worked up when "Does Mahomes body language indicate turmoil in the locker room?" stories start hitting on a weekly basis, because the Chiefs are an interesting team.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 09:02 AM
Every article written you disagree with = hit piece

this site has turned into Arrowhead Addict

This is a total hit piece. It's even WORSE than the Star's clickbait.

Digging up 30-year old dirt to try and paint the Chiefs as some sort of haven for domestic abusers?

Extending that "reveal" to people who have nothing to do with the football program?

It's total schlock.

I hope we win the Super Bowl by 80 points, Tyreek Hill wins MVP, and pulls out a newspaper and wipes his ass with it.

Frazod
05-17-2019, 09:03 AM
Obviously your employer is an asshole who needs to watch who he hires, it's all their fault man.

Too bad the guy greased himself. Some unfortunate company missed out on the opportunity to be the organization that turned the poor lost soul around.

Probably would have got a nice plaque from the local chamber of commerce. :whackit:

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 09:05 AM
I mean what's fucking next?

"Lack of gender diversity in Chiefs' front office paints troubling picture of rampant NFL misogyny."

RealSNR
05-17-2019, 09:05 AM
What the fuck is the team supposed to do about the two murder suicides?

Those were two employees who showed no track record of violence in their pasts. The Chiefs employed them. Then the two guys went nuts.

How the fuck is that part of the Chiefs cultures. The kinds of people they bring in? They don't have a magic fucking crystal ball.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 09:05 AM
Whatever happened to people being responsible for their own actions?

Is Frank Clark in jail..no? How about Hill..oh he's not?

Then they can do their jobs if an employer will hire them, so if you have an issue with that, take it up with the NFL and the legal system.

FringeNC
05-17-2019, 09:07 AM
I mean what's ****ing next?

"Lack of gender diversity in Chiefs' front office paints troubling picture of rampant NFL misogyny."

At this rate, give it 6 months...

Nixhex
05-17-2019, 09:09 AM
The Chiefs are a big part of the problem but how is this not a hit piece when many other teams are just as bad if not worse? Is it because the Chiefs are good and the Hill story is current that it will get more clicks than choosing the Broncos to slam instead? Yes. They could have chosen any team to write this exact same story about. A good journalist would have looked at the league as a whole and not singled out one team.

staylor26
05-17-2019, 09:09 AM
You know why this shit pisses me off the most?

If these media people had any kind of integrity they’d point out that the Chiefs at least tried to do the right thing with Hunt and got fucked HARD.

That’s is the perfect example of why this is an NFL problem, not the Chiefs.

ptlyon
05-17-2019, 09:09 AM
With Brooke reporting on the Chiefs, give it 6 minutes...

FYP

Dante84
05-17-2019, 09:10 AM
Main writer of this is from San Diego. Go figure.

Titty Meat
05-17-2019, 09:10 AM
You know why this shit pisses me off the most?

If these media people had any kind of integrity theyíd point out that the Chiefs at least tried to do the right thing with Hunt and got ****ed HARD.

Thatís is the perfect example of why this is an NFL problem, not the Chiefs.

If this stuff seriously pisses you off re-evaluate your life and seek help.

staylor26
05-17-2019, 09:11 AM
If this stuff seriously pisses you off re-evaluate your life and seek help.

Says the internet troll.

Titty Meat
05-17-2019, 09:14 AM
Says the internet troll.

HOW DARE SOMEONE IN NEW YORK WRITE A FACT BASED ARTICLE THAT SHINES MY TEAM IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT IM SO ANGRY

staylor26
05-17-2019, 09:14 AM
HOW DARE SOMEONE NEW YORK WRITE A FACT BASED ARTICLE THAT SHINES MY TEAM IN A NEGATIVE LITE IM SO ANGRY

Yea because THATíS what I said.

staylor26
05-17-2019, 09:15 AM
The same guy that wished the worst for me when Irma came to South Florida is telling ME to seek help.

LMAO

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 09:15 AM
The Chiefs are a big part of the problem but how is this not a hit piece when many other teams are just as bad if not worse? Is it because the Chiefs are good and the Hill story is current that it will get more clicks than choosing the Broncos to slam instead? Yes. They could have chosen any team to write this exact same story about. A good journalist would have looked at the league as a whole and not singled out one team.

We knew going into drafting Hill that this was what we should expect. We've made the decision every year to keep him even knowing this will always resurface. We shouldn't be surprised when something like this comes out. The same happened with Dallas and hardy. This doesn't look like a hit piece. It's a restating of facts. The kc media jumping on tyreek, on the other hand... So far that's looking like a different story

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 09:16 AM
HOW DARE SOMEONE IN NEW YORK WRITE A FACT BASED ARTICLE THAT SHINES MY TEAM IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT IM SO ANGRY

If you go back 30 years you can literally do this to every team I bet.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 09:17 AM
They couldn't even beat the Patriots WITH Hill, lost to them twice last year.

Got shut out in the 1st half of the AFCCG, iirc...

It's true, he was almost invisible in the AFCCC, held to 1 catch - and we were still a hair's breadth from going to the Super Bowl.

And when we played the Pats earlier in the year, he scored 3 touchdowns and we still lost.

The truth is, last year Hill had some huge games and he disappeared in other games, but we just kept winning. Because we have the QB. And next year, we won't be working against one of the worst defenses any of us have ever seen.

Why you scared?

Discuss Thrower
05-17-2019, 09:17 AM
?

Titty Meat
05-17-2019, 09:18 AM
The same guy that wished the worst for me when Irma came to South Florida is telling ME to seek help.

LMAO

Aw you poor baby. Well if negative articles about the Chiefs cause you to have a mental breakdown I can only imagine what my comment did.

staylor26
05-17-2019, 09:18 AM
It's true, he was almost invisible in the AFCCC, held to 1 catch - and we were still a hair's breadth from going to the Super Bowl.

And when we played the Pats earlier in the year, he scored 3 touchdowns and we still lost.

The truth is, last year Hill had some huge games and he disappeared in other games, but we just kept winning. Because we have the QB. And next year, we won't be working against one of the worst defenses any of us have ever seen.

Why you scared?

You realize that the reason everybody else was able to get going in the second game was mostly because of all the attention Tyreek was drawing, right?

Mecca
05-17-2019, 09:19 AM
It's true, he was almost invisible in the AFCCC, held to 1 catch - and we were still a hair's breadth from going to the Super Bowl.

And when we played the Pats earlier in the year, he scored 3 touchdowns and we still lost.

The truth is, last year Hill had some huge games and he disappeared in other games, but we just kept winning. Because we have the QB. And next year, we won't be working against one of the worst defenses any of us have ever seen.

Why you scared?

Hill is why Watkins went off in that game they were using multiple guys to take Hill away, you lose that it's easier to cover everyone else.

Nixhex
05-17-2019, 09:20 AM
Tampa Bay, Tennessee and Atlanta have the same percentage (4%) of Domestic Violence arrests as the Chiefs. San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Seattle, Arizona, Miami and Denver are all higher. Denver is the highest with (11.9%). Nearly triple the amount of arrests for domestic violence but hey lets write an article about the brutal history of the Chiefs. LoL!

staylor26
05-17-2019, 09:20 AM
Aw you poor baby. Well if negative articles about the Chiefs cause you to have a mental breakdown I can only imagine what my comment did.

Now being annoyed by something equals a mental breakdown?

And your comment hurt me so deeply that Iím laughing about it now like I was then.

Dunerdr
05-17-2019, 09:23 AM
i work for a high profile multi billion dollar company who does very thorough back ground and research on employees. in the last three years it came to light that one guy that worked here had a 7 year old girl hand cuffed to a crib in his house and she wasn't potty trained fed or taught anything. another guy got busted for impersonating a cop, picking up whores fucking them, and then beating them to near death.

do i blame the employer? no. did they seek them out? yes for talents that have nothing to do with what they both ended up in jail for. could you say they have a history of pieces of shit? absolutely they have hundreds of sights world wide surely there are more cases. but on average most employees here re not pieces of shit. you could do this with any family or business.

Rain Man
05-17-2019, 09:23 AM
Whatís behind the Minnesota Vikingsí brutal history with domestic violence?

Just for fun, I picked a seemingly innocuous NFL team and dug into their history of domestic violence.

See? Anyone can do thisÖ

In 1996 defensive end James Harris was arrested for domestic assault
In 1999 safety Orlando Thomas was arrested for assaulting his wife
In 2002 wide receiver Randy Moss hit a female police officer with his car
In 2005 Daunte Culpepper, Moe Williams, Fred Smoot, Bryant McKinnie were arrested for ďlewd conductĒ involving a stripper
In 2005 tackle Kevin Williams was arrested for domestic assault
In 2011 cornerback Chris Cook was arrested for domestic assault
In 2013 cornerback AJ Jefferson was arrested for domestic assault
In 2014 running back Adrian Peterson was arrested for child endangerment
In 2018 receiver Cayleb Jones was arrested for domestic assault and felony theft

Edit: and if we're being honest, the Belcher situation is much more of a mental health issue than a domestic violence issue. I hate it when people bring it up as if it's some sort of parallel to Hill's situation.


I wish to read more about this. Those Vikings sound terrible.

Oh, hey. It works.

Hoopsdoc
05-17-2019, 09:23 AM
Elezar is frustrating, always front in center in these types of threads virtue signalling all over the place.

Why does discussing this frustrate you? Iím genuinely curious.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 09:25 AM
Why does discussing this frustrate you? Iím genuinely curious.

It doesn't, what frustrates me is the virtue signalling of the issue. This is an NFL issue not a KC Chiefs issue.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 09:30 AM
Hill is why Watkins went off in that game they were using multiple guys to take Hill away, you lose that it's easier to cover everyone else.

Nobody "went off" in that game. Watkins had one big gain, like Hill did, in the second quarter and that was it.

dlphg9
05-17-2019, 09:31 AM
Eleazers a fucking retard

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-17-2019, 09:32 AM
I remember when people like you used to rail about how the team cared more about character than talent and winning.

You
Dane
Mecca
DeezNutz
OTWP

Off the top of my head.

Yeah, I've consistently said that character is important, but that you can't draft untalented players simply because they're team captains. It's a nuanced position understood by non idiots

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-17-2019, 09:34 AM
The article also states that you should drink double the amount of antifreeze.

That might sadden my children the court didn't see fit to take away from me.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 09:34 AM
Yeah, I've consistently said that character is important, but that you can't draft untalented players simply because they're team captains. It's a nuanced position understood by non idiots

...or that the lack of thugs was not why we were losing all those years. Obviously, we were losing despite not being shy about bringing them in.

warrior
05-17-2019, 09:36 AM
KC is 11th in DV. What a bunch of bullshit!



Noticed too-but the same people who crucified Hii with no facts,evidence or due process believe everything in that article which is BS.

-King-
05-17-2019, 09:38 AM
It's true, he was almost invisible in the AFCCC, held to 1 catch - and we were still a hair's breadth from going to the Super Bowl.

And when we played the Pats earlier in the year, he scored 3 touchdowns and we still lost.

The truth is, last year Hill had some huge games and he disappeared in other games, but we just kept winning. Because we have the QB. And next year, we won't be working against one of the worst defenses any of us have ever seen.

Why you scared?

And the Patriots have won games when Brady played shitty. And they've lost games when he played great. So I guess they don't really need him huh? This was a really dumb point to make.

-King-
05-17-2019, 09:39 AM
...or that the lack of thugs was not why we were losing all those years. Obviously, we were losing despite not being shy about bringing them in.

So is there any reason other than making you feel better that the chiefs shouldn't prioritize talent over off field character?

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 09:40 AM
And the Patriots have won games when Brady played shitty. And they've lost games when he played great. So I guess they don't really need him huh? This was a really dumb point to make.

They have their quarterback. That's why they have won a bunch of lombardis even though the supporting cast around him didn't matter much. That was a dumb point to make.

Eleazar
05-17-2019, 09:46 AM
So is there any reason other than making you feel better that the chiefs shouldn't prioritize talent over off field character?

There are plenty of talented players out there who don't have recurring problems with domestic violence. The pro bowl is not a list of the most violent criminals in the league. You don't have to choose between talent and character.

No one is expecting a full roster of players who have never made mistakes. No one is saying there should be no way back for people with failed drug tests or DWIs or issues that are long in the past. They are only talking about people who have active recurring problems with violence, especially against women and children. This also, as Hamas said, is a nuanced position understood by non-retards

Detoxing
05-17-2019, 09:51 AM
Blah blah blah.

Bunch of biased bullshit.

Fugg 'em. Fugg 'em all. Chiefs vs The World.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 09:52 AM
I mean what's ****ing next?

"Lack of gender diversity in Chiefs' front office paints troubling picture of rampant NFL misogyny."

Brooke just got an idea for her next article...

-King-
05-17-2019, 09:52 AM
There are plenty of talented players out there who don't have recurring problems with domestic violence. The pro bowl is not a list of the most violent criminals in the league. You don't have to choose between talent and character.

No one is expecting a full roster of players who have never made mistakes. No one is saying there should be no way back for people with failed drug tests or DWIs or issues that are long in the past. They are only talking about people who have active recurring problems with violence, especially against women and children. This also, as Hamas said, is a nuanced position understood by non-retards

But Hill is still one of the best WRs in the league. If you are going to replace him, you are prioritizing character over talent because most likely you aren't going to find another WR who will have 1500 receiving yards and 14 total touchdowns.


So why should they try to replace them other than to make you and people like you feel better?

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-17-2019, 09:52 AM
I remember when people like you used to rail about how the team cared more about character than talent and winning.

You
Dane
Mecca
DeezNutz
OTWP

Off the top of my head.
this is true, and I'll be good and God damned if I'm going to change my stance now.
I don't even consider this to be a storm or an epidemic or anything. We just happen to be the flavor of the month right now.

As far as I'm concerned we can go ahead and make up an official team t-shirt that says "Kansas City Chiefs: you should be scared of us too, bitches"!

And wear it with pride I would.


Also, it doesn't surprise me at all that the Never Trumper faggots of CP are all over this.


Finally, I would just like to mention that Eleazar is a little cunt who can check his fan card at the door on his way out.

Discuss Thrower
05-17-2019, 09:54 AM
Love how an absentee partial owner allegedly sexually abusing someone years ago is somehow contributory to a supposed encouraged workplace culture of domestic violence.

Frazod
05-17-2019, 09:54 AM
Blah blah blah.

Bunch of biased bullshit.

Fugg 'em. Fugg 'em all. Chiefs vs The World.

Yeah, we're not all cute and cuddly now that we're set up to own the teams from the big market coastal cities for the next decade or so.

From tough luck also-rans whose bright red uniforms look great in other teams' highlight reels to WIFE BEATING MURDERING BASTARDS! in the blink of Goodell's eye.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 09:54 AM
But Hill is still one of the best WRs in the league. If you are going to replace him, you are prioritizing character over talent because most likely you aren't going to find another WR who will have 1500 receiving yards and 14 total touchdowns.


So why should they try to replace them other than to make you and people like you feel better?

That's what gets me, what does cutting him accomplish other than it makes a few people feel better?

KChiefs1
05-17-2019, 09:56 AM
Seriously, all of these SJW media members can go fuck themselves.

Itís okay for Hunt to be a Brown and Clark to be a Seahawk, but weíre a POS organization when theyíre on our team?


Exactly.

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 09:56 AM
I mean what's ****ing next?

"Lack of gender diversity in Chiefs' front office paints troubling picture of rampant NFL misogyny."

That might sadden my children the court didn't see fit to take away from me.
ROFL
LMAO

Your attempt at a low blow would work if that had been what happened...but since it's not, all I can do is feel sorry for you.

Not only are you fucking stupid, but you're an asshole, too.

Maybe the court SHOULD take your kids away, because you're raising a group of stupid assholes that the world will have to deal with...

-King-
05-17-2019, 09:57 AM
The unironic use of SJW and virtue signal in these threads is so cringey ROFL

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 09:58 AM
The unironic use of SJW and virtue signal in these threads is so cringey ROFL

King Pussy...

staylor26
05-17-2019, 10:02 AM
The unironic use of SJW and virtue signal in these threads is so cringey ROFL

Oh go fuck yourself.

You’re such a contrarian pillowbitergot that you continue to play both sides of the fence. It’s such a polarizing topic that you don’t know which side to be on.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 10:02 AM
Whatís behind the Minnesota Vikingsí brutal history with domestic violence?

Just for fun, I picked a seemingly innocuous NFL team and dug into their history of domestic violence.

See? Anyone can do thisÖ

In 1996 defensive end James Harris was arrested for domestic assault
In 1999 safety Orlando Thomas was arrested for assaulting his wife
In 2002 wide receiver Randy Moss hit a female police officer with his car
In 2005 Daunte Culpepper, Moe Williams, Fred Smoot, Bryant McKinnie were arrested for ďlewd conductĒ involving a stripper
In 2005 tackle Kevin Williams was arrested for domestic assault
In 2011 cornerback Chris Cook was arrested for domestic assault
In 2013 cornerback AJ Jefferson was arrested for domestic assault
In 2014 running back Adrian Peterson was arrested for child endangerment
In 2018 receiver Cayleb Jones was arrested for domestic assault and felony theft

Edit: and if we're being honest, the Belcher situation is much more of a mental health issue than a domestic violence issue. I hate it when people bring it up as if it's some sort of parallel to Hill's situation.

Good job...now research their front office, family of the owners and all of the concessions employees...I bet there is rampant, unchecked misogyny and criminal assault throughout...THE VIKINGS MUST BE BROUGHT TO HEEL!!!

Marcellus
05-17-2019, 10:04 AM
Yeah, I've consistently said that character is important, but that you can't draft untalented players simply because they're team captains. It's a nuanced position understood by non idiots

Horseshit, you are adding qualifiers to it now, character has not always been your main concern. You were fine with bringing in some bad boys as long as they could play.

Its OK to say you have gotten older and changed your stance, that's not a crime.

In58men
05-17-2019, 10:06 AM
Wow

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/ba69120f5566ab348d82de0255849943.jpg


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New World Order
05-17-2019, 10:10 AM
The broncos have far more domestic violence arrests than anyone in the NFL

Where is their hit piecE?

staylor26
05-17-2019, 10:11 AM
I guess the Chiefs aren’t allowed to post anything positive on social media anymore?

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-17-2019, 10:12 AM
I don't understand why CP is so triggered about the idea of losing Hill. This team is a Super Bowl favorite even if they cut Hill today.

For the same reason the United States citizenry told Hillary Clinton to go f*** herself. It's about principles. The right kind of principles.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 10:19 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6x__wvWwAIt3C5.jpg

Dartgod
05-17-2019, 10:20 AM
Here you go..

It depends on how the problem is measured.

So they have cherry picked stats for this article.

New World Order
05-17-2019, 10:22 AM
Since 2000. Denver has the most domestic violence arrests and it's not even close:

<a href="https://imgur.com/BEy6APr"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/BEy6APr.jpg?1" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

-King-
05-17-2019, 10:23 AM
Oh go fuck yourself.

Youíre such a contrarian pillowbitergot that you continue to play both sides of the fence. Itís such a polarizing topic that you donít know which side to be on.

So because I think those labels being used unironically is funny and cringey, I'm a contrarian and don't know what side to he in?

Lol ok.

staylor26
05-17-2019, 10:28 AM
So because I think those labels being used unironically is funny and cringey, I'm a contrarian and don't know what side to he in?

Lol ok.

This is your schtick. Find a group of people saying one thing and be a contrarian. Thereís a reason multiple people have referred to you as a contrarian, just like thereís a reason these kinds of people get labeled SJWís.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

Detoxing
05-17-2019, 10:30 AM
Hell yeah. CP is salty AF today. I love it. Unleash the beast!

-King-
05-17-2019, 10:32 AM
This is your schtick. Find a group of people saying one thing and be a contrarian. Thereís a reason multiple people have referred to you as a contrarian, just like thereís a reason these kinds of people get labeled SJWís.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

Can you tell me how I'm being a contrarian on the particular subject? Thanks

New World Order
05-17-2019, 10:34 AM
This is a total hit piece. It's even WORSE than the Star's clickbait.

Digging up 30-year old dirt to try and paint the Chiefs as some sort of haven for domestic abusers?

Extending that "reveal" to people who have nothing to do with the football program?

It's total schlock.

I hope we win the Super Bowl by 80 points, Tyreek Hill wins MVP, and pulls out a newspaper and wipes his ass with it.

Tyreek holding the SB trophy will be my OrangeMane avatar

staylor26
05-17-2019, 10:36 AM
Can you tell me how I'm being a contrarian on the particular subject? Thanks

You pretend like you donít know why weíre choosing to call them SJWís, though you agree with pretty much everything else.

Are you unaware that some people legitimately fit this label?

alpha_omega
05-17-2019, 10:38 AM
Wow...that is a hit piece.

-King-
05-17-2019, 10:42 AM
You pretend like you donít know why weíre choosing to call them SJWís, though you agree with pretty much everything else.

Are you unaware that some people legitimately fit this label?

Oh...so I can't find people using them cringey or else I'm a contrarian? Ok I guess. I really thought you were going deeper than that. Welp.

Discuss Thrower
05-17-2019, 10:44 AM
You pretend like you donít know why weíre choosing to call them SJW

Let's dispel the notion King doesn't know why you're calling them SJWs. He knows exactly why you're calling them SJWs.

The point is to stifle criticism.

ROYC75
05-17-2019, 10:49 AM
Well that's it according to Brooke, KC Star and USA Today!

We should just go ahead and rename the Chiefs, Mean Machine!

Iconic
05-17-2019, 10:53 AM
LMAO CP is slowly turning into MGTOW and I'm okay with it

staylor26
05-17-2019, 10:54 AM
Oh...so I can't find people using them cringey or else I'm a contrarian? Ok I guess. I really thought you were going deeper than that. Welp.

Oh so you arenít denying that they fit the definition, you just donít like the term.

You know if you donít like the terms, you can just ignore them, right? It seems to really bother you.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 10:56 AM
LMAO CP is slowly turning into MGTOW and I'm okay with it

listen here fucker

this media assault on our franchise is nothing but liberal trash agendas trying to serve as judge, jury and executioner so they can drum up business in a dying industry

we're a convenient target

this isn't about the truth

it's about $

and we're going to pay these assholes a shitload of money on the way to making the Hunts even more money on the way to a big fucking shiny silver trophy

AND EVERYONE IN THE MEDIA CAN KISS OUR FUCKING ASS AND WATCH THEIR STUPID ASS FISHWRAPS DIE IN A FIRE

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 10:58 AM
Let's dispel the notion King doesn't know why you're calling them SJWs. He knows exactly why you're calling them SJWs.

The point is to stifle criticism.

It is 100% a cringey term. What started as a criticism of actual SJWs has now become a blanket term so people can put a label on things to whine about everything under the sun. Most people here can complain about issues like these without those nonsense buzzwords.

Discuss Thrower
05-17-2019, 11:02 AM
What does 'cringe' even mean in any objective sense?


JFC.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 11:05 AM
What does 'cringe' even mean in any objective sense?


JFC.

"i don't like the terms you are using and am triggered therefore i will attempt to impugn your character"

"words hurt me"

KCChiefsFan88
05-17-2019, 11:08 AM
If the media is going to link random/isolated incidents during a franchise’s history to create a misleading/tabloid narrative in an effort to generate click bait... let’s do the same to the Faketriots.

Drafted and employed a murderer? Check

Owner arrested for involvement in a prostitution sting? Check

Signed a known wife/girlfriend beater in Junior Seau? Check

The Lisa Olson incident in 1990? Check

In58men
05-17-2019, 11:13 AM
Since 2000. Denver has the most domestic violence arrests and it's not even close:

<a href="https://imgur.com/BEy6APr"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/BEy6APr.jpg?1" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

Iím being asked to provide a link.

Have one brotha?

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 11:14 AM
What does 'cringe' even mean in any objective sense?


JFC.

Does the term white privilege and toxic masculinity make you cringe? Because it's the basically the opposite equivalent of SJWs. Both overused buzzwords select people inject into conversation to politicize things when people don't want to fucking talk about politics. Maybe one day I can watch a superhero movie without a person complaining about a hero not being feminine enough and another complaining about a hero being too diverse. Just let me watch the fucking movie.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 11:15 AM
Does the term white privilege and toxic masculinity make you cringe? Because it's the basically the opposite equivalent of SJWs. Both overused buzzwords select people inject into conversation to politicize things when people don't want to fucking talk about politics. Maybe one day I can watch a superhero movie without a person complaining about a hero not being feminine enough and another complaining about a hero being too diverse. Just let me watch the fucking movie.

These threads are always going to be politicized.

And it's why everyone hates them.

I hate them.

I don't want this shit in my football.

But if these fucking media cocksuckers are not going to leave it alone, neither am I.

MahiMike
05-17-2019, 11:19 AM
At this point I just want to have a team full of gang rapers and transgender killers. Fug the PC extremists.

mac459
05-17-2019, 11:20 AM
Iím being asked to provide a link.

Have one brotha?

www.nflarrest.com

BIG_DADDY
05-17-2019, 11:21 AM
At this point I just want to have a team full of gang rapers and transgender killers. Fug the PC extremists.

Take a Pamprin already drama queen.

Kiimosabi
05-17-2019, 11:22 AM
For the same reason the United States citizenry told Hillary Clinton to go f*** herself. It's about principles. The right kind of principles.

ROFL

Imon Yourside
05-17-2019, 11:24 AM
Bringing up Tim Barnett, too. LMAO

I mean, how many skeletons can you drag out of the closet trying to make a case that the Chiefs are run by monsters?

****ing tards.

Two Regimes and a lifetime ago, what about when Len Dawson used to smoke ciggies in the lockerroom? Thugs!

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 11:26 AM
Can we get some MAGA patches sewn onto our uniforms?

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-17-2019, 11:27 AM
The wrong side of history has never been so easy to see.

Kiimosabi
05-17-2019, 11:28 AM
Okay I hate this USA Today article for several reasons but I'm quitting this stupid thread before I lose my temper

Imon Yourside
05-17-2019, 11:29 AM
Okay I hate this USA Today article for several reasons but I'm quitting this stupid thread before I lose my temper

Stick around and let the hatred flow through you!

Frazod
05-17-2019, 11:30 AM
Okay I hate this USA Today article for several reasons but I'm quitting this stupid thread before I lose my temper

https://media.giphy.com/media/2ept7eRuyq98s/200.gif

rabblerouser
05-17-2019, 11:33 AM
At this point I just want to have a team full of gang rapers and transgender killers. Fug the PC extremists.

By "transgender killers", do you mean people who kill transgendered people exclusively, or transgendered people who do the killing?

And by gang rapers, do you mean roving gangs who rape, or people who rape the gangs?

You know what? Fuck it - sounds interesting either way. I'm in, let's do this shit.

Detoxing
05-17-2019, 11:34 AM
OI'm quitting this stupid thread before I lose my temper

PFFFFFFFFFFFfffffff

pfff

staylor26
05-17-2019, 11:35 AM
I couldn’t care less about politics. I don’t even vote.

I only use the term SJW because I saw the same people bitching about the same shit over and over and when I found out what SJW meant, it just made too much sense as a label.

SAUTO
05-17-2019, 11:36 AM
Yep. KC is 11th, as someone earlier pointed out.

http://www.nflarrest.com/
See you know what a link is. I always knew when you cry about being asked for one that you're just making shit up. ROFL

SAUTO
05-17-2019, 11:39 AM
this is true, and I'll be good and God damned if I'm going to change my stance now.
I don't even consider this to be a storm or an epidemic or anything. We just happen to be the flavor of the month right now.

As far as I'm concerned we can go ahead and make up an official team t-shirt that says "Kansas City Chiefs: you should be scared of us too, bitches"!

And wear it with pride I would.


Also, it doesn't surprise me at all that the Never Trumper pillowbitergots of CP are all over this.


Finally, I would just like to mention that Eleazar is a little cunt who can check his fan card at the door on his way out.

You aren't even a chiefs fan. I wouldn't be calling for someone's fan card if i were you

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 11:41 AM
This is making me an even bigger, harder and longer fan of my team than I've ever been before.

I am galvanized by this bullshit criticism.

The Pioli and Smith years introduced apathy and resignation. It coursed through my veins like a poison. I became a twisted caricature of what I had been in my youth. Only TRUTH could save me.

Now with THE TRUTH of Mahomes slinging fire against our football enemies and the media witchhunt against our team, which seeks to BURY OUR TRUTH, my lust to see all parties brought to their knees and beheaded burns brighter and hotter than a thousand suns.

We will seize our destiny this season and crush ANYONE who gets in our way.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/de816c0ffbdd9fb133799ce5b02a040f/tenor.gif?itemid=8479151

The Reckoning is coming.

Pablo
05-17-2019, 11:48 AM
This article makes me so angry that I'm gonna go home and take it out on my wife.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 11:49 AM
This article makes me so angry that I'm gonna go home and take it out on my wife.

Do not ask for consent.

srvy
05-17-2019, 11:53 AM
Noticed too-but the same people who crucified Hii with no facts,evidence or due process believe everything in that article which is BS.

This is the truth!

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-17-2019, 11:57 AM
No supplication to these cunts. We're coming in hard, fast, and swinging.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 11:59 AM
No supplication to these cunts. We're coming in hard, fast, and swinging.

Every touchdown is a blow to the liberal SJW globalist feminazi agenda.

WE WILL BE TRIUMPHANT

BWillie
05-17-2019, 12:01 PM
Can't control what other people to do.

And to throw in Belcher in that is pretty low brow. He definitely had CTE issues. If you want to bag on the Chiefs for that - as has said before in the thread stop watching the NFL. PERIOD.

New World Order
05-17-2019, 12:03 PM
Where is Denver's national hit piece on domestic violence? From '14:

Broncos lead NFL in domestic violence arrests during Roger Goodell era

In the eight-plus years that Roger Goodell has been commissioner of the NFL, the Denver Broncos have led the league in domestic violence-related arrests, according to a new report.

An examination of NFL arrest records details 56 domestic violence-related arrests since Goodell took over as commissioner in 2006.

Of those 56 instances, the involved players were suspended for a combined total of 13 games.

Ex-Bronco Brandon Marshall, who had three domestic violence-related arrests during his four years with the Broncos, accounted for a great deal of the team’s arrests since 2006. But if you took him out of the equation, the Broncos would still lead the NFL in domestic violence-related arrests with seven in that span.

https://kdvr.com/2014/09/10/report-broncos-lead-nfl-in-domestic-violence-arrests-during-roger-goodell-era/

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-17-2019, 12:06 PM
"not one false statement in that article" said dumb little cunt Eleazar.

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 12:09 PM
I couldn’t care less about politics. I don’t even vote.

I only use the term SJW because I saw the same people bitching about the same shit over and over and when I found out what SJW meant, it just made too much sense as a label.

And the people who use the term bitch about the same thing over and over too. There are plenty who see the ridiculousness of the witch hunt and are fine keeping tyreek without needing the ridiculous labels. This isn't about needlessly throwing women into a damn ghostbusters movie. There's no question abusing a pregnant woman is wrong. That's not virtue signaling. There's no question that if he was wrong he should be punished. That's not needless social justice. I would hope those things are common sense and that it looks dumb to shame someone who feels a bit unsettled about it.

Now, does that mean the Chiefs have an obligation to be morally superior at the expense of winning? Should i feel bad because I root for our team anyway? Do I have to care if we're winning even if we have bad people on the team? Those are entirely different questions.

KCChiefsFan88
05-17-2019, 12:10 PM
The Chiefs are not supposed to be a glamour team with a superstar QB... in the eyes of the national/mainstream sports media.

When the media has that inherent bias, they will find any way possible to take you down.

It reminds me of the Miami Hurricanes football teams in the 1980's/1990's... they were not supposed to be winning NC's and beating traditional powers such as Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc. and the media attacked them at every turn.

Was there shady shit taking place at Miami? Yes. Was it much worse or any different than what was taking place at the time at the traditional powers? No.

Same with the Chiefs. Have they had isolated cases of domestic violence? Yes. Are the incidents more frequent when compared to other franchises? No.

saphojunkie
05-17-2019, 12:11 PM
Every touchdown is a blow to the liberal SJW globalist feminazi agenda.

WE WILL BE TRIUMPHANT

Please stop doing this.

Please stop Alex Jonesing all over the board. This has nothing to do with personal politics. And you should probably retire "feminazi" when there are ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS marching in America.

I'm a feminist.

I'm a liberal.

I hate this attack piece shit.

So, stop using this as some sort of bucket o' anger you can just throw at anyone who doesn't suck Trump's tiny dick.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 12:13 PM
When they stop, I stop.

NOT BEFORE.

FIRE WITH FIRE.

In58men
05-17-2019, 12:13 PM
Please stop doing this.



Please stop Alex Jonesing all over the board. This has nothing to do with personal politics. And you should probably retire "feminazi" when there are ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS marching in America.



I'm a feminist.



I'm a liberal.



I hate this attack piece shit.



So, stop using this as some sort of bucket o' anger you can just throw at anyone who doesn't suck Trump's tiny dick.



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Baby Lee
05-17-2019, 12:14 PM
Please stop doing this.

Please stop Alex Jonesing all over the board. This has nothing to do with personal politics. And you should probably retire "feminazi" when there are ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS marching in America.

I'm a feminist.

I'm a liberal.

I hate this attack piece shit.

So, stop using this as some sort of bucket o' anger you can just throw at anyone who doesn't suck Trump's tiny dick.

The personal is the political.
If one is not actively promoting one's sense of political interest at all times, it is a moral abdication of duty.

New world, your side's rules. . . It is what it is. . .

The Good Lord, and every member of this board, knows I'm not one to be counted seeing eye to eye with Claynus.
But he feels compelled to speak his truth. Football is his passion, and he sees an intersectionality resulting in oppression, and he's responding with passion.
That's 21st century American life.

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-17-2019, 12:16 PM
Please stop doing this.

Please stop Alex Jonesing all over the board. This has nothing to do with personal politics. And you should probably retire "feminazi" when there are ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS marching in America.

I'm a feminist.

I'm a liberal.

I hate this attack piece shit.

So, stop using this as some sort of bucket o' anger you can just throw at anyone who doesn't suck Trump's tiny dick.

Well mister liberal, it was your "culture" that bred this dumb shit.
So uh.... yeah; enjoy the fruits of your labor!


*And a second term, sweetie.

kcpasco
05-17-2019, 12:18 PM
I embrace the hate. We will take what is ours with fire and blood.

saphojunkie
05-17-2019, 12:18 PM
When they stop, I stop.

NOT BEFORE.

FIRE WITH FIRE.

Then be more fucking specific with who "they" are. "they" are not simply everyone who disagrees with you on economic policy, immigration, or gender equality. "They" are people who are using actual social justice issues as a wide brush with which to paint their click-bait.

"They" could be writing article after article about real issues. "They" conveniently ignored Kansas City until Mahomes won MVP. "They" couldn't give two shits about Platte County water contamination, or farming subsidies in western KS. "They" most likely didn't do a deep dive into their own organizations and who there has DV on their record.

But when you say "derp SJW feminazi socialist fake news media is the enemy" you actually dilute what should be a legitimate argument against this type of thing.

You're smart enough of a person to not just swim in hyperbole.

Baby Lee
05-17-2019, 12:21 PM
Then be more fucking specific with who "they" are. "they" are not simply everyone who disagrees with you on economic policy, immigration, or gender equality. "They" are people who are using actual social justice issues as a wide brush with which to paint their click-bait.

"They" could be writing article after article about real issues. "They" conveniently ignored Kansas City until Mahomes won MVP. "They" couldn't give two shits about Platte County water contamination, or farming subsidies in western KS. "They" most likely didn't do a deep dive into their own organizations and who there has DV on their record.

But when you say "derp SJW feminazi socialist fake news media is the enemy" you actually dilute what should be a legitimate argument against this type of thing.

You're smart enough of a person to not just swim in hyperbole.

Maybe he could just kneel, or ride a stationary bike, or conduct stretching exercises during something solemn, . . . [any ideas?]
Then let the media right his rhetoric for him?

staylor26
05-17-2019, 12:21 PM
And the people who use the term bitch about the same thing over and over too. There are plenty who see the ridiculousness of the witch hunt and are fine keeping tyreek without needing the ridiculous labels. This isn't about needlessly throwing women into a damn ghostbusters movie. There's no question abusing a pregnant woman is wrong. That's not virtue signaling. There's no question that if he was wrong he should be punished. That's not needless social justice. I would hope those things are common sense and that it looks dumb to shame someone who feels a bit unsettled about it.

Now, does that mean the Chiefs have an obligation to be morally superior at the expense of winning? Should i feel bad because I root for our team anyway? Do I have to care if we're winning even if we have bad people on the team? Those are entirely different questions.

You said it yourself. This is clearly a witch hunt. Against both the Chiefs and Hill. What kind of people are constantly leading the charge on these modern day witch hunts? They don’t care about due process, they ignore all facts that don’t fit their narrative, etc. You can hate the label all you want, but there’s no denying that it fits.

saphojunkie
05-17-2019, 12:22 PM
Well mister liberal, it was your "culture" that bred this dumb shit.
So uh.... yeah; enjoy the fruits of your labor!


*And a second term, sweetie.

Don't be reductive.

TLO
05-17-2019, 12:24 PM
Well mister liberal, it was your "culture" that bred this dumb shit.
So uh.... yeah; enjoy the fruits of your labor!


*And a second term, sweetie.


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Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 12:26 PM
And you should probably retire "feminazi"

Not on your life.

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Mecca
05-17-2019, 12:28 PM
What in the hell is plan II?

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 12:29 PM
What in the hell is plan II?

"give us more money and we'll give you a higher sense of self worth so you can look down on everyone else"

TEX
05-17-2019, 12:30 PM
Please stop doing this.

Please stop Alex Jonesing all over the board. This has nothing to do with personal politics. And you should probably retire "feminazi" when there are ACTUAL ****ING NAZIS marching in America.

I'm a feminist.

I'm a liberal.

I hate this attack piece shit.

So, stop using this as some sort of bucket o' anger you can just throw at anyone who doesn't suck Trump's tiny dick.

Why? Because you dont like to see it? If you don't, (and here's the kicker) just dont read or respond. Why should your side always win because you / they dont like something? Because you bitch about it louder and more often? That seems to be the way it works. Your culture started this BS. Own it all you want, but dont dictate to others who dont agree and who vocally oppose your position like you oppose theirs.

New World Order
05-17-2019, 12:31 PM
We're The Bad Boys

Embrace it.

Mecca
05-17-2019, 12:31 PM
I also always find it amusing how every single article that is written about this topic is always written by a woman.

TEX
05-17-2019, 12:32 PM
Well mister liberal, it was your "culture" that bred this dumb shit.
So uh.... yeah; enjoy the fruits of your labor!


*And a second term, sweetie.


:clap:
Exactly! It all comes back to this right here.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 12:33 PM
We're The Bad Boys

Embrace it.

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saphojunkie
05-17-2019, 12:35 PM
Why? Because you dont like to see it? If you don't, (and here's the kicker) just dont read or respond. Why should your side always win because you / they dont like something? Because you bitch about it louder and more often? That seems to be the way it works. Your culture started this BS. Own it all you want, but dont dictate to others who dont agree and who vocally oppose your position like you oppose theirs.

Because I'm literally not on their side, so lumping me in with them by making it political is reductive and stupid.

You also have NO idea what her actual politics are, because this has nothing to do with politics.

But Clay and SDH wanna make it that way, because it's more fun for them to stand at the sweaty knees of partisanship and throw stones at the perceived enemy.

I am living, breathing proof that their imagined dividing line doesn't exist.

saphojunkie
05-17-2019, 12:35 PM
:clap:
Exactly! It all comes back to this right here.

:rolleyes:

JohnnyHammersticks
05-17-2019, 12:36 PM
USA Today.

ROFLROFLROFL

A real bastion of journalism there! Has anyone actually paid money for an issue of the USA Today since before the year 2000? It's literally so bad they have to give it away.

saphojunkie
05-17-2019, 12:37 PM
Why? Because you dont like to see it? If you don't, (and here's the kicker) just dont read or respond. Why should your side always win because you / they dont like something? Because you bitch about it louder and more often? That seems to be the way it works. Your culture started this BS. Own it all you want, but dont dictate to others who dont agree and who vocally oppose your position like you oppose theirs.

Way to miss the entire point

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 12:39 PM
I also always find it amusing how every single article that is written about this topic is always written by a woman.

USA Today editor: "Slow news day. What do we have?"

Fembot: "Tyreek Hill stands a free man."

USA Today editor: "OK, no good news there so we should publish an 'update' that will attract a lot of attention."

Fembot: "I could look into all the cases of anything sniffing domestic violence by anyone associated with the Kansas City Chiefs."

USA Today editor: "That sounds good. They're run by white males so they're probably incredibly corrupt and evil."

Fembot: "I will stoke the fires of outrage within our liberal progressive readership, my Lord."

USA Today editor: "Don't forget this team is in the midwest, too. It must be annihilated in the court of public opinion."

Fembot: "I will shame them until all of their most precious talent rests in coastal cities for full exploitation."

USA Today editor: "You have done well."

RollChiefsRoll
05-17-2019, 12:39 PM
two teams — Denver and Miami — have recorded more domestic violence arrests or charges since January 2000 than the Chiefs

Yeah! Fuck you, Denver!

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 12:40 PM
But Clay and SDH wanna make it that way, because it's more fun for them to stand at the sweaty knees of partisanship and throw stones at the perceived enemy.


Do you suggest we not have fun with these clowns?

What else are they good for?

chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 12:41 PM
You said it yourself. This is clearly a witch hunt. Against both the Chiefs and Hill. What kind of people are constantly leading the charge on these modern day witch hunts? They don’t care about due process, they ignore all facts that don’t fit their narrative, etc. You can hate the label all you want, but there’s no denying that it fits.

And there are just as many people unsettled by it who get lumped into it too. Reasonable people who understandably find some of it unsettling. I get the attacks on the witch hunt. Especially Pryor who's been culprit #1. But broad labels like this makes our fans look like we're apologizing for the behavior. We're not. We just don't think teams or fans should have to apologize for putting winning above being boy scouts.

JohnnyHammersticks
05-17-2019, 12:43 PM
Well mister liberal, it was your "culture" that bred this dumb shit.
So uh.... yeah; enjoy the fruits of your labor!


*And a second term, sweetie.

Good of you to point this out, because they have zero self-awareness, which is a politically correct of saying they're borderline retarded.

KCChiefsFan88
05-17-2019, 12:49 PM
And there are just as many people unsettled by it who get lumped into it too. Reasonable people who understandably find some of it unsettling. I get the attacks on the witch hunt. Especially Pryor who's been culprit #1. But broad labels like this makes our fans look like we're apologizing for the behavior. We're not. We just don't think teams or fans should have to apologize for putting winning above being boy scouts.

No one is apologizing for domestic violence, but fans have every right to push back on a false narrative that the Chiefs have a "brutal history of domestic violence" when in reality they've had a few isolated cases out of the thousands of people the franchise has employed over a 60 year time frame.

kcpasco
05-17-2019, 12:49 PM
Hill hasn’t even been charged with anything. But don’t let that stand in the way of a good witch hunt.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 12:51 PM
You also have NO idea what her actual politics are, because this has nothing to do with politics.


Bitch, PLEASE.

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These people want to destroy us. It's their meal ticket.

Detoxing
05-17-2019, 12:56 PM
I also always find it amusing how every single article that is written about this topic is always written by a woman.

And i can-guaran-damn-tee you these women aren't getting the dick they need at home.

When a woman isn't getting good dick it fucks with their brains. They'll swear up and down it isn't true, but that's because crazy people don't know they're crazy.

Hammock Parties
05-17-2019, 12:57 PM
When a woman isn't getting good dick it fucks with their brains.

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chiefzilla1501
05-17-2019, 01:02 PM
No one is apologizing for domestic violence, but fans have every right to push back on a false narrative that the Chiefs have a "brutal history of domestic violence" when in reality they've had a few isolated cases out of the thousands of people the franchise has employed over a 60 year time frame.

I'm talking about why I hate dumb labels like virtue signaling and SJW. As if someone should be shamed for acting "morally superior" because they are unsettled by the behavior. But yes, absolutely... We have the right to push back against the ridiculous media narrative and the opportunistic clickbait shitheads. I'm neutral on this article, by the way. It's not the worst we've seen. We knew what we were getting into when we drafted tyreek so I get if that one action puts a bigger microscope on everyone else's actions. I also don't care as long as it doesn't get in the way of winning.