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Tribal Warfare
06-05-2019, 08:22 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> LB Justin Houston on joining the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a>: &quot;I just wanted to be in a 4-3.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/IItM9ZpUd2">https://t.co/IItM9ZpUd2</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Wire (@TheChiefsWire) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheChiefsWire/status/1136275417122426880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

loochy
06-05-2019, 08:23 AM
Well he could have been one one here if he would have been willing to take a pay cut

TLO
06-05-2019, 08:23 AM
Thanks

Bwana
06-05-2019, 08:38 AM
Who?

Halfcan
06-05-2019, 08:39 AM
Houston can say whatever excuse he wants for joining those dickwads, the fact is, he dogged it a lot last year. Two out of every three plays he gave less than 100%. We needed more than just the occasional sack from him. The defense was awful and Houston was part of that equation. Then after giving a half-ass effort year, he refused to take a pay cut or help the team cap-wise in any way. Have fun losing to the Chiefs next year in the Playoffs and watching your old team move on. Houston has been paid like the best defensive player in the NFL for years now, but was not even close to the player he was. Good riddance.

RunKC
06-05-2019, 08:46 AM
Thereís a reason we didnít want to keep your high price tag Justin..


Chiefs outside linebacker Justin Houston flipped the switch late in the fourth quarter, after he had been held in check all game long. It didnít happen until a young teammate, No. 74 Justin Hamilton turned to him on the sidelines and challenged him to play better.

ďNo. 74, Juicy came up to me on the sideline and he pretty much called me out,Ē Houston explained. ďHe challenged me. He said, ĎI need to see that same energy you have during the week. I need to see it now. Youíre the leader, you need to take over. Do your job.'Ē

Houston took that challenge head on and gave the Chiefs an opportunity to win late in regulation with a strip-sack on Lamar Jackson. When the Chiefs didnít get the win there, Houston continued to grind and got a crucial sack in overtime that helped the Chiefs ice the game.

Halfcan
06-05-2019, 08:49 AM
^ Houston should not have to be motivated on the sideline by a JAG to play up to his talent. He mailed it in last year and probably will this year too.

rabblerouser
06-05-2019, 08:50 AM
Ummmmm...

DJ's left nut
06-05-2019, 08:52 AM
^ Houston should not have to be motivated on the sideline by a JAG to play up to his talent. He mailed it in last year and probably will this year too.

It was most apparent in his run defense.

For all the shit that Ford took as a run defender, he was at least an outstanding pursuit defender against the run. Houston, OTOH, jaked it BADLY last year in run defense.

You can flip a switch as a pass rusher and give effort when you want to. As a run defender, you're either engaged every down or you're ineffective. Last season Houston was clearly ineffective.

That raises some obvious red flags with regards to effort and intensity.

Cave Johnson
06-05-2019, 08:54 AM
Thereís a reason we didnít want to keep your high price tag Justin..

That is not a flattering story.

Canít wait for the EB ones to come out.

rabblerouser
06-05-2019, 08:54 AM
It was most apparent in his run defense.

For all the shit that Ford took as a run defender, he was at least an outstanding pursuit defender against the run. Houston, OTOH, jaked it BADLY last year in run defense.

You can flip a switch as a pass rusher and give effort when you want to. As a run defender, you're either engaged every down or you're ineffective. Last season Houston was clearly ineffective.

That raises some obvious red flags with regards to effort and intensity.
He got paid.

Both him and Berry dropped off a cliff when they got paid that big, big money.

Cave Johnson
06-05-2019, 08:55 AM
Enjoy having Houston’s shitty attitude rub off on your young D, Colts!!

Cave Johnson
06-05-2019, 08:57 AM
Well he could have been one one here if he would have been willing to take a pay cut

Is there any evidence we actually asked him to restructure?

I donít think Veachy and Big Reid wanted his inconsistent effort anywhere near this rebuild.

ChiTown
06-05-2019, 09:00 AM
Who?

You're doing it wrong!

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Rain Man
06-05-2019, 09:35 AM
Houston can say whatever excuse he wants for joining those dickwads, the fact is, he dogged it a lot last year. Two out of every three plays he gave less than 100%. We needed more than just the occasional sack from him. The defense was awful and Houston was part of that equation. Then after giving a half-ass effort year, he refused to take a pay cut or help the team cap-wise in any way. Have fun losing to the Chiefs next year in the Playoffs and watching your old team move on. Houston has been paid like the best defensive player in the NFL for years now, but was not even close to the player he was. Good riddance.

Yeah, he would step it up at critical times, which was great, but I noticed on "routine" drives, he often seemed content to lean on an offensive lineman. Last year was not his best look.

RealSNR
06-05-2019, 09:45 AM
Is there any evidence we actually asked him to restructure?

I donít think Veachy and Big Reid wanted his inconsistent effort anywhere near this rebuild.

Not sure how accurate these reports are, but some twitter tards out there claimed that Veach did talk to Houston and his agent about a restructure, but that Houston refused any kind of change to his contract.

RealSNR
06-05-2019, 09:47 AM
I loved Houston when he was here, but even I'm glad we moved on from him.

I think we get to play the Colts in the regular season this year? That's gonna be a fun one. Enjoy getting lit up by our QB, Justin.

Halfcan
06-05-2019, 09:59 AM
It was most apparent in his run defense.

For all the shit that Ford took as a run defender, he was at least an outstanding pursuit defender against the run. Houston, OTOH, jaked it BADLY last year in run defense.

You can flip a switch as a pass rusher and give effort when you want to. As a run defender, you're either engaged every down or you're ineffective. Last season Houston was clearly ineffective.

That raises some obvious red flags with regards to effort and intensity.

This! I don't remember Houston not sealing his edge being an issue, but he was pushed to the outside very often, opening huge running lanes inside. Even his pass rushing was off. Maybe he just finally had enough of Sutton and decided to play when he felt like it. :hmmm:

I think having the intensity of a Frank Clark and getting rid of Houston's "only play hard on some downs" attitude will be huge in the run game.

Not having Berry lingering around on the sideline scratching notes on a candy wrapper should help moral too. Bottom line- we got rid of two high paid, nonimpact guys in Berry and Houston and replaced them with high-intensity vocal leaders that play hard every down. This in itself, should help change the culture of the defense where last year it was oklay to dog it when you wanted too and nobody would say anything.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
06-05-2019, 10:02 AM
Huston & Luck on the same game day roster? 50%?

kcclone
06-05-2019, 10:06 AM
I liked Houston and I think he could fit in ok with a 4-3. My only problem with him was he was hurt too often and now he's aging, so not worth the contract.

Colts have enough cap space to pay out the wazoo for old expensive guys like Houston, so I can understand why the brought him in.

Halfcan
06-05-2019, 10:09 AM
Yeah, he would step it up at critical times, which was great, but I noticed on "routine" drives, he often seemed content to lean on an offensive lineman. Last year was not his best look.

Exactly, Houston used to be feared. He was a mauler, with a great array of moves and could bull rush if he needed to. When you watch the difference between Frank Clark using Fisher as a weapon to throw at Mahomes and Houston's effort to just kind of paw at the linemen 3 out of 4 downs- it is huge.

Maybe the defense won't be as good as we hope, but at least they will be trying hard this year. If not, guys will be chewing their ass for dogging it. Gone are the days of Uncle Bob ignoring lackadaisical effort while burying his face in his clipboard. I don't know a lot about Spags, but I doubt he or the defensive staff will put up with that nonsense like last year.

Halfcan
06-05-2019, 10:15 AM
I loved Houston when he was here, but even I'm glad we moved on from him.

I think we get to play the Colts in the regular season this year? That's gonna be a fun one. Enjoy getting lit up by our QB, Justin.

Home game- October 6th at 8:20 PM on NBC

You can bet that Andy will have power running plays installed in the game plan to Houston's side. I bet they want to see if he can close that inside gap since he struggled with it last year. Easy 4 yard gains most likely.

TEX
06-05-2019, 10:16 AM
I liked Houston and I think he could fit in ok with a 4-3. My only problem with him was he was hurt too often and now he's aging, so not worth the contract.

Colts have enough cap space to pay out the wazoo for old expensive guys like Houston, so I can understand why the brought him in.

This.

Rain Man
06-05-2019, 10:21 AM
This! I don't remember Houston not sealing his edge being an issue, but he was pushed to the outside very often, opening huge running lanes inside. Even his pass rushing was off. Maybe he just finally had enough of Sutton and decided to play when he felt like it. :hmmm:

I think having the intensity of a Frank Clark and getting rid of Houston's "only play hard on some downs" attitude will be huge in the run game.

Not having Berry lingering around on the sideline scratching notes on a candy wrapper should help moral too. Bottom line- we got rid of two high paid, nonimpact guys in Berry and Houston and replaced them with high-intensity vocal leaders that play hard every down. This in itself, should help change the culture of the defense where last year it was oklay to dog it when you wanted too and nobody would say anything.

For some reason I hadn't thought about it in those terms before, but you're right. The Chiefs directly replaced Houston and Berry with their two biggest investments of Clark and Mathieu. That says a lot.

Halfcan
06-05-2019, 10:36 AM
For some reason I hadn't thought about it in those terms before, but you're right. The Chiefs directly replaced Houston and Berry with their two biggest investments of Clark and Mathieu. That says a lot.

Hobo Berry wandering around mumbling to himself in street clothes during the game -replaced with Honey Badger wrecking people's shit while pumping up the crowd and team.

Houston the highest paid player on the team, who was a shell of his former self due to injuries and attitude- replaced by Frank Clark, a high intensity, defensive player of the year candidate, who wore a Van Halen / Judas Preist shirt when he touched down in KC.

To say I like these moves would be an understatement. Veech had a great offseason!

And as a Bonus- we dumped bonehead Ford, who did not know how to line up during the biggest game of the year. I am sure the Chiefs will miss his piano playing but not his soft as a bunny locker room attitude.

alpha_omega
06-05-2019, 10:37 AM
Houston can say whatever excuse he wants for joining those dickwads, the fact is, he dogged it a lot last year. Two out of every three plays he gave less than 100%. We needed more than just the occasional sack from him. The defense was awful and Houston was part of that equation. Then after giving a half-ass effort year, he refused to take a pay cut or help the team cap-wise in any way. Have fun losing to the Chiefs next year in the Playoffs and watching your old team move on. Houston has been paid like the best defensive player in the NFL for years now, but was not even close to the player he was. Good riddance.

This.

BossChief
06-05-2019, 11:37 AM
It’s a shame he wouldn’t take a pay cut to stay.

I understand it was time to move on and get younger, though.

Titty Meat
06-05-2019, 11:50 AM
He got paid.

Both him and Berry dropped off a cliff when they got paid that big, big money.

Because they both had serious injuries

sedated
06-05-2019, 02:01 PM
Colts have enough cap space to pay out the wazoo for old expensive guys like Houston, so I can understand why the brought him in.

KC has $24 million in cap space

DJ's left nut
06-05-2019, 02:19 PM
KC has $24 million in cap space

KC has to maintain long-term financial flexibility. Indy's already built the bulk of Lock's next contract into their cap.

We have to be a little more delicate in how we handle the cap going forward because we're going to have the most expensive player in football (by a fair amount) on this squad soon enough. Indy already went through that pain and the adjustment of carrying Lock's deal. Now they've steadied the ship and can be a little more aggressive in how they use their space.

We need to be very mindful of how we use ours and keep an eye on 2 years from now at all times.

Flying High D
06-05-2019, 02:25 PM
Houston needs to get Hobo on that squad with him.

Halfcan
06-05-2019, 02:29 PM
KC has to maintain long-term financial flexibility. Indy's already built the bulk of Lock's next contract into their cap.

We have to be a little more delicate in how we handle the cap going forward because we're going to have the most expensive player in football (by a fair amount) on this squad soon enough. Indy already went through that pain and the adjustment of carrying Lock's deal. Now they've steadied the ship and can be a little more aggressive in how they use their space.

We need to be very mindful of how we use ours and keep an eye on 2 years from now at all times.

They have to pay Luck too. :)

rabblerouser
06-05-2019, 02:31 PM
Because they both had serious injuries

You mean when Uric Burry couldn't play because he had JAGlund's Spirit, and then Justin Houston forgot to play good football until a JAG on the sideline reminded him that he needed to play good football??

rabblerouser
06-05-2019, 02:32 PM
KC has to maintain long-term financial flexibility. Indy's already built the bulk of Lock's next contract into their cap.

We have to be a little more delicate in how we handle the cap going forward because we're going to have the most expensive player in football (by a fair amount) on this squad soon enough. Indy already went through that pain and the adjustment of carrying Lock's deal. Now they've steadied the ship and can be a little more aggressive in how they use their space.

We need to be very mindful of how we use ours and keep an eye on 2 years from now at all times.

I thought Lock went to Dungver?

Cave Johnson
06-05-2019, 03:14 PM
I thought Lock went to Dungver?

He obviously meant Luck, RomperRoom.

Flying High D
06-05-2019, 04:19 PM
Luck lock not much difference

rabblerouser
06-05-2019, 04:23 PM
Luck lock not much difference

Cooze Johnson doesn't understand sarcasm...

rabblerouser
06-05-2019, 04:24 PM
They have to pay Luck too. :)

Exactly.

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-05-2019, 07:33 PM
Ummmmm...

Let me give you the real scoop here:

ROFL We just got trolled.

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-05-2019, 07:35 PM
Cooze Johnson doesn't understand sarcasm...

But he understands what it means to douse himself liberally with Trump brand ball powder!

rabblerouser
06-05-2019, 08:13 PM
But he/she understands what it means to douche him/herself liberally with Trump brand pussy powder!

FYP ;)

Flying High D
06-05-2019, 08:16 PM
^ Nice FYP!!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-05-2019, 08:30 PM
FYP ;)

ROFL Well, he DOES need to be clean down there when Cosmutt grabs him before teh sects.

rabblerouser
08-25-2019, 07:56 AM
They have to pay Luck too. :)

Guess not.

redhed
08-25-2019, 10:42 AM
LOL

rabblerouser
08-25-2019, 10:47 AM
Houston needs to get Hobo on that squad with him.

Well, now they can afford that shit.

Flying High D
08-25-2019, 12:32 PM
Hobo be not retiring on them. Stand right there on the sideline and takes nickel everyone he can. That’s the spirit he got.

Cave Johnson
08-26-2019, 02:47 PM
"The biggest move the Colts made was signing Justin Houston away from Kansas City, where he hadn’t registered double-digit sacks since 2014. A nominally decent pass rusher playing on a shitty defense? Justin, I think you’ll find yourself comfortable in these environs."

https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2019-indianapolis-colts-1837312321

Hoopsdoc
08-26-2019, 03:27 PM
"The biggest move the Colts made was signing Justin Houston away from Kansas City, where he hadnít registered double-digit sacks since 2014. A nominally decent pass rusher playing on a shitty defense? Justin, I think youíll find yourself comfortable in these environs."

https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2019-indianapolis-colts-1837312321

ďWhen society allows unremarkable men like Irsay to be obscenely richĒ. LMAO

Magary is a certifiable lunatic. Seriously, that guy would be Stalin if he had any power at all.

And that article is incredibly stupid.

First of all, Lucks injuries have been way overblown in all of this. SUre, Grigson was a clown and they waited too long to fix the offensive line, but they did fix it. He was hit less last year than ANY qb. His shoulder is better than ever now, he said so himself. He also said he had more fun playing football last year than at any other time in his life.

This calf/shin injury happened late last year. It was so bad at the time that he went ahead and played on it in the pro bowl. It just never went away. And he used it as an excuse to retire this year. I now believe that. Iím not bashing him for that, I just believe thatís what happened.

In 2016, he hurt his shoulder snowboarding. So itís not like he wrapped himself in bubble wrap when he wasnít playing football and that football and Satan incarnate Ryan Grigson is the only reason heís not healthy as a horse.

Lastly, this defense is not going to be terrible. Theyíve added everything they were missing last year, speed at linebacker, a quality backup corner, and pass rush help. They might not be the best in the league but theyíll be far from the worst.

BryanBusby
08-26-2019, 04:39 PM
LMAO it's a satire article that you're taking far too seriously. Might wanna slide over to the next state and buy a joint to calm down dude.

Superturtle
08-26-2019, 04:42 PM
Good grief, man. How could you not tell that was over the top hyperbolic satire? The article is titled "Why Your Team Sucks"

KC Tattoo
08-26-2019, 05:11 PM
ďWhen society allows unremarkable men like Irsay to be obscenely richĒ. LMAO

Magary is a certifiable lunatic. Seriously, that guy would be Stalin if he had any power at all.

And that article is incredibly stupid.

First of all, Lucks injuries have been way overblown in all of this. SUre, Grigson was a clown and they waited too long to fix the offensive line, but they did fix it. He was hit less last year than ANY qb. His shoulder is better than ever now, he said so himself. He also said he had more fun playing football last year than at any other time in his life.

This calf/shin injury happened late last year. It was so bad at the time that he went ahead and played on it in the pro bowl. It just never went away. And he used it as an excuse to retire this year. I now believe that. Iím not bashing him for that, I just believe thatís what happened.

In 2016, he hurt his shoulder snowboarding. So itís not like he wrapped himself in bubble wrap when he wasnít playing football and that football and Satan incarnate Ryan Grigson is the only reason heís not healthy as a horse.

Lastly, this defense is not going to be terrible. Theyíve added everything they were missing last year, speed at linebacker, a quality backup corner, and pass rush help. They might not be the best in the league but theyíll be far from the worst.

I think you should give football a rest possibly life too it's just not working out for you.