Butker Signs Extension

[Sassy Squatch]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have signed K Harrison Butker to a contract extension! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/zodyFGxChc">pic.twitter.com/zodyFGxChc</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1139249014006792193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Gravedigger]

Man, and I thought I was white.

[Mecca]

Butkers neck is really long...weird shit.

[staylor26]

Nice

[ModSocks]

Butkers neck is really long...weird shit.

You know what they say about long necks...

[gblowfish]

He's a nice guy. He goes to the same church my wife goes to.

[Mecca]

You know what they say about long necks...

They look like dinosaurs?

[Munson]

Butkers neck is really long...weird shit.

It helps him judge windage on long kicks.

[TLO]

Good for him

[Shoes]

Good resigning- hard to believe we got Butker off the Panthers practice squad. Big improvement over Santos.

[chiefzilla1501]

Because he's ouuuurrrr buttker

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

He is going to need it. If he's going to keep up with Colquitt in the baby making

[RunKC]

So in regards to Buttkickers wife...

Would?

[ptlyon]

So in regards to Butkickers wife...

Would?

When I first saw their picture I wondered if they were brother and sister

[Sorce]

So in regards to Butkickers wife...

Would?

I don't think he outkicked his coverage so I guess that's good.

[Shoes]

Reported 5 year 20 mill!

[O.city]

He's been a fine kicker. Pretty good I guess.

I just don't know why you'd give a kicker that long of a deal. Seems kind of like relief pitchers and volatility.

[mdchiefsfan]

Getting all the smaller stuff sorted before moving on to the big man. I am curious what the hits on the cap look like this year before and after these extensions to Butker and Schwartz. May be moving some of what is owed to clear room for some of Jones’ contract requests.

[mdchiefsfan]

Now that they have the cap space from Berry, they’re wheeling and dealing. I think these are just the first few dominos falling in route to Jones’ extension.

[Marcellus]

He's been a fine kicker. Pretty good I guess.

I just don't know why you'd give a kicker that long of a deal. Seems kind of like relief pitchers and volatility.

It will be interesting to see how its structured.

[BossChief]

Same deal as Ryan Succop.

9th highest paid kicker.

Decent deal.

[Rain Man]

All of the pieces are falling into place.

[O.city]

It will be interesting to see how its structured.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, Harrison Butker receives just over $9M in guarantees on five-year extension from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>.</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1139257769717043200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That's not terrible.

[Clyde Frog]

His leg might just fall off with all the XP he's gonna have to kick in that timespan.

[InChiefsHeaven]

What a likeable dork he seems to be. Good for him.

[Sofa King]

Same deal as Ryan Succop.

9th highest paid kicker.

Decent deal.

That's a steal.

And we see EVERY YEAR how important good kickers really are. Criminally underrated position, especially based off how little they really make.

[Jerok]

His wife looks like a female Ben Shapiro and he looks like a white male swimmer/tennis player.

But that's my kicker. Let's gooooo.

[Marcellus]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, Harrison Butker receives just over $9M in guarantees on five-year extension from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>.</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1139257769717043200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That's not terrible.

:clap:

[carlos3652]

Locked up a top 10, 24 year old kicker until he is 29/30, for 4m a year. Steal.

In 3 years when mediocre kickers are getting 5-6 m per year, we will be talking about how great Veach was at extending people at the right time.

[BossChief]

With the firepower on offense, Andy should never kick extra points anymore.

Just go all in on 2 point conversions unless it only takes 1 point to win the game.

Like Steph Curry/GS changing the game with the constant use of the 3.

[Flying High D]

When I first saw their picture I wondered if they were brother and sister

South Carolina Style

[Naptown Chief]

So in regards to Buttkickers wife...

Would?

No, but as long as he's happy..

I like this deal. Young and (so far) reliable kicker for peanuts. Look no further than SD/LA, and more recently the Bears, for how important the position is

[Red Dawg]

Waste of money. Showtime needs no stinking kicker.

[oldman]

His leg might just fall off with all the XP he's gonna have to kick in that timespan.

Don't forget all the kickoffs, too. He's going to earn that cash. Good job, Veach!

[chinaski]

He's a nice guy. He goes to the same church my wife goes to.

That's pretty cool. Looks like a nice little family he has there too. Good for him. :)

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Glad to see it.

Like it or not, it’s an extremely valuable position that can single-handedly win or lose games.

[scho63]

He's a nice guy. He goes to the same church my wife goes to.

While you stay home, drink beers, whack off and sin? :shake:

[Kiimo]

He's the best kicker we've had since Lowery.

[RunKC]

If you don’t like this, watch the Bears playoff game. These guys are valuable.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

His wife looks like a female Ben Shapiro and he looks like a white male swimmer/tennis player.

But that's my kicker. Let's gooooo.

ROFL

[SuperBowl4]

I wish we still had Nick Lowery!

[-King-]

Don't know if that's a lot of money or the right amount of money for a kicker but don't really care. Just happy to have a consistent kicker compared to a lot of teams

[SuperBowl4]

He's the best kicker we've had since Lowery.Did you FORGET about Ryan Succop?

[Kiimo]

I did not forget about Succop. He was ok. Santos was ok. Buttkicker is way better.

[chiefzilla1501]

No, but as long as he's happy..

I like this deal. Young and (so far) reliable kicker for peanuts. Look no further than SD/LA, and more recently the Bears, for how important the position is

This. Look at the shitpile of kickers at the bottom half of the league. Blair. Fucking. Walsh. Is still getting legit tryouts for starting jobs. When you got a good one, hold on to him no matter the cost.

Kinda funny to think... Buttker was so reliable in the stretch run this year that we barely even noticed him. Good problem to have

[Tribal Warfare]

MVP jr HB7

[KC_Lee]

He's the best kicker we've had since Lowery.

How quickly we forget....

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[Rain Man]

I wish we still had Nick Lowery!

He's available, but I think he's too old to have much leg now.

[gblowfish]

Reported 5 year 20 mill!

Wow...well, his tithing to the church should be quite a bit of an uptick!

[gblowfish]

While you stay home, drink beers, whack off and sin? :shake:

Something like that...
She prays for me.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

He's been a fine kicker. Pretty good I guess.

I just don't know why you'd give a kicker that long of a deal. Seems kind of like relief pitchers and volatility.

You shut your hole. Buttkickers a fuckin beast.

[scho63]

Something like that...
She prays for me.

Is it working? :D

[Kiimo]

How quickly we forget....

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I didn't forget.



Butkerbetter

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Look at the feet on that baby. Bad genetics right there. Has Veach seen this?

[Kiimo]

Look at the feet on that baby. Bad genetics right there. Has Veach seen this?

The best kicker of all time was born with half a foot.



Bring that baby in for a look.

[BryanBusby]

I would have said the Chiefs hopefully did not overspend since they have had luck with kickers and have a good ST's coach, but that's a pretty fair deal for both sides.

[KCUnited]

That baby appears to be in distress. /kc star

[staylor26]

That baby appears to be in distress. /kc star

LMAO

[tredadda]

If you don’t like this, watch the Bears playoff game. These guys are valuable.

Or the 1995 Chiefs playoff game.

[thabear04]

Thanks to the Panthers for letting him be on their PS and the Chiefs got him.

[SuperBowl4]

I did not forget about Succop. He was ok. Santos was ok. Buttkicker is way better.Buttkicker missed a 48 yarder in the playoffs vs.the Tennessee Titians in January 2018. DOINK! Off the upright! FINAL STAT - 0-1! Way better?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Buttkicker missed a 48 yarder in the playoffs vs.the Tennessee Titians in January 1018. DOINK! Off the upright!man, that was forever ago.

[Kiimo]

Buttkicker missed a 48 yarder in the playoffs vs.the Tennessee Titians in January 2018. DOINK! Off the upright! FINAL STAT - 0-1! Way better?

Yes.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Dude was nails in the AFC Chanpionship game. When we needed a made FG he delivered right down the middle. Ice water in his veins

[Raiderhater]

That baby appears to be in distress. /kc star

Sounds about right.

[alpha_omega]

Congratulations to him and his family.

[MahiMike]

Buttkickin deal!

[Cosmos]

Big bucks to kick extra points..

[Redbled]

What was his previous deal for and how long did we have him signed?

[Hoover]

Veach is locking everything in place for an extend run. We are going to pay Jones, Fuller, and Mahomes. Probably go year to year with Tyreek, and all our other needs will be addressed in the draft.

[Warrior5]

Print 'em.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Awwww shit, I've just realised he's a religious kook. Fuck it, he's still my kicker and I support him, so long as he doesn't lose his mind and leave the team to pursue the meaning of god or some crazy bullshit.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

How quickly we forget....

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Fuck yeah Stoyo saves lives!

[Rausch]

I would have said the Chiefs hopefully did not overspend since they have had luck with kickers and have a good ST's coach, but that's a pretty fair deal for both sides.

We have the cap room. We can afford a top kicker and punter. It's not like they franchise for $20 million per...:D

[rico]

Love it!

[redfan]

Nifty to nice, he's a good kicker. Seems like a lot of money (for a kicker), but I'm el cheapo.

[gblowfish]

Awwww shit, I've just realised he's a religious kook. **** it, he's still my kicker and I support him, so long as he doesn't lose his mind and leave the team to pursue the meaning of god or some crazy bullshit.

Well, he's Catholic. If that makes him a religious kook, then probably 25% of the NFL are kooks too.

[gblowfish]

The best kicker of all time was born with half a foot.



Bring that baby in for a look.

I have a friend who wanted to start a business in New Orleans called "Tom Dempsey's Half Price Shoes."

Awful.
But funny...

[Simply Red]

I'm very happy and excited he's employed by my very favorite NFL sporting team the Kansas City Chiefs!

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Contract details for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> K Harrison Butker <a href="https://t.co/DYrqnzXfcP">https://t.co/DYrqnzXfcP</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Wire (@TheChiefsWire) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheChiefsWire/status/1149721228141367296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[lcarus]

His FG to send us to OT in the AFC Championship game was nice. I was so confident he'd nail it and he did. That's as clutch as a kick can get just about. I know I was basically on life support at that point.

[Skyy God]

Nifty to nice, he's a good kicker. Seems like a lot of money (for a kicker), but I'm el cheapo.

Ask the Bears about cheaping out on a kicker.

[DJ's left nut]

We have the cap room. We can afford a top kicker and punter. It's not like they franchise for $20 million per...:D

Paying for a place kicker I can get behind.

Paying for a punter is ridiculous. We're entering year 5 of 'we should've cut Colquitt' and have overspent by about $15 million over that period.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Paying for a place kicker I can get behind.

Paying for a punter is ridiculous. We're entering year 5 of 'we should've cut Colquitt' and have overspent by about $15 million over that period.

I agree with this, but it also seems like such a small sample size for Butker to make him one of the highest paid kickers in the league. Who knows, with the new CBA that will be coming soon, Butker could end up looking like a bargain even if he is only good going forward.

Colquitt is still great, but with this Chiefs team, there no good reason to pay him what they are. We could have signed someone off the street for league minimum and it would most likely have no impact on the win total.

[jjchieffan]

I don't know about it being year 5. Colquitt probably won us quite a few games during the Alex Smith Era. He really didn't see a drop in punts until last year. I would say year 2, but an argument could be made for year 3. Not 5. But yeah, there is no need to pay a punter that much with an offense like this.

[RealSNR]

I'm not getting my panties in a twist over the deal, but... yeah. Never trust kickers. Especially young kickers.

Blair Walsh had a booming leg and was dead on accurate. Until he missed a kick in the playoffs. Now he's a chump replacement-level kicker

Cody Parkey was doing pretty well. Until he wasn't.

Green Bay inexplicably stood by Mason Crosby as he struggled mightily for more than a season. And even then, he's just kind of okay now. Before then, however, he was among the NFL's best kickers.

Knock on wood, I don't think that's going to happen to Butker. But as soon as you think you can get comfortable with a kicker, they'll find a way to fuck you over. They always do.

[DJ's left nut]

I don't know about it being year 5. Colquitt probably won us quite a few games during the Alex Smith Era. He really didn't see a drop in punts until last year. I would say year 2, but an argument could be made for year 3. Not 5. But yeah, there is no need to pay a punter that much with an offense like this.

You're right - I was a year off.

2016, when he made $3.6 million - that was the year I was fine with walking away from him. So we'll have paid about $9 million more over those 4 years than I'd have liked to have paid for a punter (and there's still a chance that they make a move on him this fall).

I'm just saying that it adds up. It's why I'm so protective of our cap at all times - I hate the 'have cap, will spend' approach because there are no rollover penalties. If you have it and don't NEED to spend it - don't. Roll it over, get your cap credits out of it and you'll have that much more the following season.

I just don't think a lot of people understand how those rollover dollars work very well. By not having Colquitt all those years, we'd have been able to bank those dollars forward and just keep plowing them into subsequent cap years. Now we'd be sitting on $9-10 million in spare cap that could make things a lot simpler and could've made pursuing someone like Kyle Fuller more feasible last season.

We have the best STs coach in football - you telling me we can't get league average punting out of a rookie or street free agent? Dude built Butker into a premier kicker, he can turn raw clay into something passable as a punter.

[DJ's left nut]

I'm not getting my panties in a twist over the deal, but... yeah. Never trust kickers. Especially young kickers.

Blair Walsh had a booming leg and was dead on accurate. Until he missed a kick in the playoffs. Now he's a chump replacement-level kicker

Cody Parkey was doing pretty well. Until he wasn't.

Green Bay inexplicably stood by Mason Crosby as he struggled mightily for more than a season. And even then, he's just kind of okay now. Before then, however, he was among the NFL's best kickers.

Knock on wood, I don't think that's going to happen to Butker. But as soon as you think you can get comfortable with a kicker, they'll find a way to fuck you over. They always do.

I trust bigger kickers more. I know I shouldn't, but with the levers they can bring into play, they can use a simpler motion to generate power.

Simpler = more repeatable. More repeatable = more reliable.

A guy like Santos was always going to make me nervous because he had to be loud to generate his power. Butker's is easy; guy has plus distance on an average leg swing. That means he's not 'overthrowing' so to speak, so his mechanics should stay sound and his accuracy should be all the easier.

It's like so many of us said about Mahomes when we got him - that easy zip on his passes means he doesn't have to gear up to get into windows. When you're not working as hard, you're more precise. Mahomes can make some of those throws more accurately because he's not having to reach back to make them - just a calm, easy release and the ball explodes.

Gimme that tall kicker with easy levers and a simple leg swing and I'll be more confident than I would in most guys.

[RealSNR]

Okay, I'm also now looking up some Butker stats. The stark difference in the power and awesomeness of our 2018 offense as compared to 2017 even reflects itself in kicking statistics. Lol. Granted, Butker wasn't on the Chiefs for the first 3 games of 2017, so these aren't perfect comparisons, but the differences are so great the extra 3 games probably don't matter.

In 2017, Butker attempted 28 extra points. In 2018, he attempted 69 extra points.

In 13 games of 2017, Butker attempted 42 field goals. In a full 16 games of 2018, he attempted just 27.

He converted 14 more field goals in 2017 vs 2018 (38 vs 24). That's a difference of 42 points. You'd think his total scoring between the two seasons would be insane, but it's actually not. Because he kicked so many freaking extra points in 2018, he's only off by 5 points between the two seasons (142 in 2017 vs 137 in 2018).

So... yeah. Mahomes hates field goals.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Paying for a place kicker I can get behind.

Paying for a punter is ridiculous. We're entering year 5 of 'we should've cut Colquitt' and have overspent by about $15 million over that period.

A-fucking men.

It's PAST time to "end an era".

[highBOLTage]

Ask the Bears about cheaping out on a kicker.

What would they know about it? They gave their kicker 4/15M last year.

[-King-]

Okay, I'm also now looking up some Butker stats. The stark difference in the power and awesomeness of our 2018 offense as compared to 2017 even reflects itself in kicking statistics. Lol. Granted, Butker wasn't on the Chiefs for the first 3 games of 2017, so these aren't perfect comparisons, but the differences are so great the extra 3 games probably don't matter.

In 2017, Butker attempted 28 extra points. In 2018, he attempted 69 extra points.

In 13 games of 2017, Butker attempted 42 field goals. In a full 16 games of 2018, he attempted just 27.

He converted 14 more field goals in 2017 vs 2018 (38 vs 24). That's a difference of 42 points. You'd think his total scoring between the two seasons would be insane, but it's actually not. Because he kicked so many freaking extra points in 2018, he's only off by 5 points between the two seasons (142 in 2017 vs 137 in 2018).

So... yeah. Mahomes hates field goals.

Wow. That's a huge difference in Fags attempted.

[RunKC]

The Jack Fox kid is interesting. He has a huge leg. He was 2nd in the NCAA in explosive punt total.

Honesty I don’t care too much about accuracy inside the 20 anymore if a guy can flip the field booming the ball. This kid can do that.

I think this is Colquitt’s last year. We won’t be able to keep his price tag while paying all our guys big money.

[Skyy God]

The Jack Fox kid is interesting. He has a huge leg. He was 2nd in the NCAA in explosive punt total.

Honesty I don’t care too much about accuracy inside the 20 anymore if a guy can flip the field booming the ball. This kid can do that.

I think this is Colquitt’s last year. We won’t be able to keep his price tag while paying all our guys big money.

TC “injury”, perhaps.

[Skyy God]

What would they know about it? They gave their kicker 4/15M last year.

After jettisoning super accurate kicker Robbie Gould, champ.

[highBOLTage]

After jettisoning super accurate kicker Robbie Gould, champ.

That was three seasons ago. And they didn't go cheap with Parkey.

[-King-]

The Jack Fox kid is interesting. He has a huge leg. He was 2nd in the NCAA in explosive punt total.

Honesty I don’t care too much about accuracy inside the 20 anymore if a guy can flip the field booming the ball. This kid can do that.

I think this is Colquitt’s last year. We won’t be able to keep his price tag while paying all our guys big money.

You only need a guy to boom a ball if you're constantly getting stopped on your own side of the field. With Mahomes and our offense, accuracy matters a whole lot more than distance.

[MahiMike]

Not a good day to watch the Ravens game. Dude missed 2 - almost 3 kicks!

Still love the guy tho...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Sly Fox incoming bitches, deal with it.

[tyecopeland]

The Jack Fox kid is interesting. He has a huge leg. He was 2nd in the NCAA in explosive punt total.

Honesty I don’t care too much about accuracy inside the 20 anymore if a guy can flip the field booming the ball. This kid can do that.

I think this is Colquitt’s last year. We won’t be able to keep his price tag while paying all our guys big money.

Hes just got 2 years left under contract and his cap hit goes down half a mil so I'd say theres a decent chance hes on the team to finish his contract. He also took less per year money on this last deal so he might even do it again. I dont really see the need for him either but hes been our mvp in several seasons so I hope he wins a super bowl with us.

[KChiefs1]

I don't know about it being year 5. Colquitt probably won us quite a few games during the Alex Smith Era. He really didn't see a drop in punts until last year. I would say year 2, but an argument could be made for year 3. Not 5. But yeah, there is no need to pay a punter that much with an offense like this.


MVP didn’t punt much last year. I remember him thanking Pat for letting him punt.

[rtmike]

On Buttkickers right is a little photo framed with Brett Veachs name and General Manager Kansas City Chiefs printed.
Is that M. Peters in his Rams #22 jersey one of the players on it?

Or are those Michigan players?

[Tribal Warfare]

On Buttkickers right is a little photo framed with Brett Veachs name and General Manager Kansas City Chiefs printed.
Is that M. Peters in his Rams #22 jersey one of the players on it?

Or are those Michigan players?

That's Brett in his Delware uniform in college

[rtmike]

That's Brett in his Delware uniform in college

Thank you sir. I didn’t know he played.

That’s got to be cool for the players playing for a coach and gm that ere former players?

[RealSNR]

Thank you sir. I didn’t know he played.

That’s got to be cool for the players playing for a coach and gm that ere former players?

I mean... the coaches and GMs who didn't play college football at all are kind of few and far between, aren't they?

Remember that it was so jaw-dropping to people that Todd Haley never played football.

[DJ's left nut]

You only need a guy to boom a ball if you're constantly getting stopped on your own side of the field. With Mahomes and our offense, accuracy matters a whole lot more than distance.

True.

But with an offense as explosive as ours is, is it more important to save 10 yards when you're punting from the 50 (because how many of Colquitt's punts inside the 50 are downed at the 15 for a nominal benefit) or get another 15 on the rare occasions your buried inside your own end?

I mean we only punted 45 times last year - would you rather have the big league that can flip a field on the times we punted from deep in our territory or the more accurate one that can save a handful of yards punting from theirs?

I'm not actually sure that either side of the argument is correct, but I think there's enough of an argument either way that paying $2+ million more for a punter than you have to is folly. Especially when I think Colquitt's accuracy is largely overrated anyway. The Chiefs had touchbacks on 11.2% of their punts last year - as near as I can figure it, only 2 teams had a higher figure than that last year.

The only place the Chiefs punting unit truly excelled last season was on average yards per return and even that may be a result of excellent coverage as much as anything. Even with that, we barely had a net inside the top 10.

He isn't a truly great punter. He's a slightly above average punter on a team that has less need for a punter than any squad in football and who needs the cap space wherever it can get it to build it up and allocate it to the young core of this squad. It's time to move on from Colquitt and has been for awhile.

Colquitt

[rtmike]

I mean... the coaches and GMs who didn't play college football at all are kind of few and far between, aren't they?

Remember that it was so jaw-dropping to people that Todd Haley never played football.

I think it’s more rare for the GM to be a former player?
Although:
Dorsey played LB
That gm dude before him, played.
Did CP, lol? I know he had a knack for UCLA playas

So with the Chiefs it would seem former gms played.
I always thought it was the coach who might have played?



So what was Veach? Safety? CB?

[Skyy God]

I think it’s more rare for the GM to be a former player?
Although:
Dorsey played LB
That gm dude before him, played.
Did CP, lol? I know he had a knack for UCLA playas

So with the Chiefs it would seem former gms played.
I always thought it was the coach who might have played?



So what was Veach? Safety? CB?

Good guess.

RB/WR/KR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Veach

[Kiimo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Madden 20 K/P ratings:<br><br>Kickers..<br><br>Tucker: 87<br>Gould: 85<br>Rosas: 84<br>Gostkowski: 80<br>Zuerlein: 80<br>Butker: 79<br>Gano: 79<br>Lambo: 79<br>Prater: 78<br>Vinatieri: 78<br><br>Punters...<br><br>Hekker: 86<br>Koch: 85<br>Morstead: 84<br>C.Jones: 84<br>Dickson: 83<br>D.Colquitt: 81<br>Way: 80<br>Palardy: 80<br>Bosher: 78</p>&mdash; NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1150796641047404545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Buttkicker sixth rated kicker