Angels pitcher dies in Texas...

[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Angels statement on the passing of Tyler Skaggs. <a href="https://t.co/6XA2Vu1uWV">pic.twitter.com/6XA2Vu1uWV</a></p>&mdash; Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) <a href="https://twitter.com/Angels/status/1145798021780840448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Just pitched last night I believe.

[-King-]

Whoa. What happened

[R Clark]

Wow

[Mecca]

Dude was 27 so it makes you wonder what was going on there...

[O.city]

Just watched him pitch in STL a few Sundays ago.

[RockChalk]

Dude was 27 so it makes you wonder what was going on there...

and just got married last off-season.

Hearing absolutely no details about this, not even cause of death.

[O.city]

Was it a car accident or ?

[displacedinMN]

Not fair.

[Frazod]

That's fucked up. I remember when Darrell Kyle died like it was yesterday.

RIP

[displacedinMN]

nothing on cause yet. It will take a few days.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I checked box scores for Sat/Sun. he didn't pitch those two nights .I thought maybe he gave up 6 Homeruns or something and celebrated with antifreeze but apparently not the case here.

My bad ,he DID pitch Saturday and took the loss.

[chinaski]

Wow. This is really awful. RIP.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

and just got married last off-season.

Hearing absolutely no details about this, not even cause of death.

1st clue is in!

[Mecca]

Was it a car accident or ?

Don't think so, there are some reports that he was found dead this morning.

[O.city]

Looks like they found him dead in his hotel room.

Damn that's rough.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Looks like they found him dead in his hotel room.

Damn that's rough.

2nd clue is in.

[Eleazar]

2nd clue is in.

It wasn’t in the Dominican Republic dude

[Jerm]

No foul play suspected...so overdose? Suicide?

[Deberg_1990]

.so overdose? Suicide?

Yes

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Undiagnosed heart condition (eg. Brugada Syndrome) is the first thing you'd think of outside of an overdose.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Undiagnosed heart condition (eg. Brugada Syndrome) is the first thing you'd think of outside of an overdose.

That's whats crossing my mind, heart condition.

[Jerm]

Undiagnosed heart condition (eg. Brugada Syndrome) is the first thing you'd think of outside of an overdose.

True...was thinking a brain aneurysm too.

[TribalElder]

fentanyl maybe

[rabblerouser]

That's whats crossing my mind, heart condition.

Drugs or suicide.

Maybe that's how I'm gonna go, idk.

[TLO]

Terrible

[TEX]

Reminds me of a former Astros and Cardinals pitcher, named Darryl Kyle, who died suddenly of an undiagnosed heart condition. It was shocking at the time. Still kind of is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darryl_Kile

[BlackHelicopters]

Heart sploded or something.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

So he became a literal Angel.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Those undiagnosed heart conditions are scary.

[TLO]

Those undiagnosed heart conditions are scary.

Aren't these conditions typically caught by an EKG? You'd think athletes would have these types of conditions caught.

[TLO]

Of course we have no idea if that playedany role at this point.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Aren't these conditions typically caught by an EKG? You'd think athletes would have these types of conditions caught.

I have no idea. I would hope so but these stories pop up once or twice a year and the victims range from college to professional and football to baseball.

[TLO]

I have no idea. I would hope so but these stories pop up once or twice a year and the victims range from college to professional and football to baseball.

I would think so, but I honestly have no idea.

[wazu]

When they offer no clues as to the cause I generally don’t hold my breath on it being due to natural causes.

[KCUnited]

When they offer no clues as to the cause I generally don’t hold my breath on it being due to natural causes.

I see what you did there. Nice.

[TLO]

When they offer no clues as to the cause I generally don’t hold my breath on it being due to natural causes.

I wonder how long until they release the cause?

[ModSocks]

Probably OD'd on Marijuana.

[GloucesterChief]

I wonder how long until they release the cause?

If it was overdose or natural causes then it will have to wait for a autopsy. Suicide would be apparent.

[ModSocks]

Also, this is proof that Andy Reid can't fix people.

/Keitzman

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I wonder how long until they release the cause?

Unless he has Hatchet wounds we'll have to wait for the autopsy and toxicology results.That normally takes anywhere from 48 hours to 48 years.

[chinaski]

Also, this is proof that Andy Reid can't fix people.

/Keitzman


This is how out of hand Hill's behavior has become. Today we learn that Hill's "bad boy" persona has not only influenced Kareem Hunt to go out drinking and brawling over the weekend, it has caused a baseball player to die of mysterious causes in a Texas hotel room. /Kietzman

[Perineum Ripper]

Probably OD'd on Marijuana.

https://pics.me.me/person-with-tattoos-going-about-their-day-old-white-women-47164156.png

[BigRedChief]

Drugs or suicide.or heart condition. That has to cover 99% of sudden deaths of a 27 year old with no obvious cause when the body is found.

[Naptown Chief]

Death by snu-snu?

[chiefzilla1501]

Just awful. I remember hearing how much he fought through to be a starter. Constantly on the bubble. Found his way then had a string of injuries, then Tommy john. Seemed like he was finally in the swing of things. 27 is way too young. RIP.

[PunkinDrublic]

The Angels have had some bad luck with player deaths. They had that young pitcher who died in a car accident on opening day shortly after pitching a great game.

[Hydrae]

This is how out of hand Hill's behavior has become. Today we learn that Hill's "bad boy" persona has not only influenced Kareem Hunt to go out drinking and brawling over the weekend, it has caused a baseball player to die of mysterious causes in a Texas hotel room. /Kietzman

Wow, I didn't see that coming. I must be a racist because I have always envisioned the anti-Christ as being a white man.

[Jewish Rabbi]

When they offer no clues as to the cause I generally don’t hold my breath on it being due to natural causes.

I would be surprised if it wasn’t natural causes.

[Rain Man]

Maybe this will finally be the catalyst to put up netting at all ballparks.

[Oz_Chief]

I wonder how long until they release the cause?

It should be sometime after they inform the next of kin. That is his wife. The media should be informed after that. The information is public record. I would imagine that tox results will be of great interest because the death is sudden and unexpected so the cause of death may be withheld until the tox panel comes back.

[Hoopsdoc]

That's ****ed up. I remember when Darrell Kyle died like it was yesterday.

RIP

Yep, I’ll never forget Girardi announcing the cancellation of the game that day.

[Flying High D]

There had to be other options than that to keep from going back to California.

[TLO]

The Tarrant County (Texas) Medical Examiner estimates the autopsy report for Angels pitcher Tyler Skaggs will be completed in early October.

[ptlyon]

JFC

[Prison Bitch]

A local paper reports opioids mixed with alcohol


Don’t shoot the messenger. Claims it was known he wa a pill shopper and pill popper

[TLO]

A local paper reports opioids mixed with alcohol


Don’t shoot the messenger. Claims it was known he wa a pill shopper and pill popper

Which paper? Do you have a link by chance?

[Prison Bitch]

https://www.smobserved.com/story/2019/07/01/news/angels-deny-that-baseball-player-tyler-skaggs-died-of-a-drug-overdose-in-texas-hotel/4080.html?m=true



Edit: this story has been severely edited since this PM, removing the references to his pill shopping and the Tom Petty death similarity, but you can see the allusions in the comments section

[TLO]

https://www.smobserved.com/story/2019/07/01/news/angels-deny-that-baseball-player-tyler-skaggs-died-of-a-drug-overdose-in-texas-hotel/4080.html?m=true



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I was about to say -

[tk13]

Tonight is the first Angels home game since his death. The Angels are throwing a no-hitter through 8 innings. About to be some serious goosebumps during the 9th.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

https://www.smobserved.com/story/2019/07/01/news/angels-deny-that-baseball-player-tyler-skaggs-died-of-a-drug-overdose-in-texas-hotel/4080.html?m=true



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That looks like a shitty Geocities page from 1997.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Angels threw a no hitter. All players wore 45. Mom threw a strike as the opening pitch. Trout hit the first ball he saw 454 feet. Ball 4 in inning 5 prevented this game from being perfect. God works in mysterious ways.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Trout noted that the Angels scored 7 first-inning runs and finished with 13. Tyler Skaggs&#39; birthday is 7/13, tomorrow. &quot;You can&#39;t make this stuff up,&quot; Trout said.</p>&mdash; Alden Gonzalez (@Alden_Gonzalez) <a href="https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1149918460975042560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[neech]

https://www.smobserved.com/story/2019/07/01/news/angels-deny-that-baseball-player-tyler-skaggs-died-of-a-drug-overdose-in-texas-hotel/4080.html?m=true




Worthless story PB.

[eDave]

Baseball is a magical thing. It's a spiritual sport.

[Why Not?]

Baseball is a magical thing. It's a spiritual sport.

Absolutely. We were at dinner with 3 other couples and stopped at the bar with one out in the 9th. Not a dry eye in the place when the jerseys started to be placed on the mound. Really a touching experience.

[kstater]

So is baseball gonna just sweep the pill popping under the rug and promote the "feel good" of last night or actually use their platform

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[Why Not?]

So is baseball gonna just sweep the pill popping under the rug and promote the "feel good" of last night or actually use their platform

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

If that is indeed what happened(and it well may have, but personally as a KC sports fan, I’m over judging any athlete until I see absolute proof)now wouldn’t be the time for baseball to take a stand, which there’s not really precedent that they would anyway. I certainly don’t recall a huge anti cocaine/boating under the influence stance by MLB after the death of Jose Fernandez. Regardless of the cause of death, it’s still sad that a 27 year old, a good dude by all published accounts, lost his life. He was obviously beloved by teammates and fans. Anything MLB said or did to detract from last night would’ve been inappropriate.

If it does come out that his death was opiate related, I hope MLB does use their platform. But I’m not holding my breath.

[BigRedChief]

So is baseball gonna just sweep the pill popping under the rug and promote the "feel good" of last night or actually use their platform

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalkin the 50’s and 60’s baseball players regularly took “greenies” to get up for games. “Greenies” was speed. Yogi Bera and Mickey Mantle talked about it openly that almost everyone in baseball took them daily. Baseball teams knew about this. They talked to reporters about it when it was happening, not just later when they retired.

[MVChiefFan]

in the 50’s and 60’s baseball players regularly took “greenies” to get up for games. “Greenies” was speed. Yogi Bera and Mickey Mantle talked about it openly that almost everyone in baseball took them daily. Baseball teams knew about this. They talked to reporters about it when it was happening, not just later when they retired.

The 1950’s pre-workout!

[BigRedChief]

The 1950’s pre-workout!they'd stay out all night drinking and then pop some speed to be able to play baseball the next day. All American young men, pride of the nation. Role models for our youth.

We never seem to learn the truth about our “heroes” until decades later.

[eDave]

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[GloucesterChief]

they'd stay out all night drinking and then pop some speed to be able to play baseball the next day. All American young men, pride of the nation. Role models for our youth.

We never seem to learn the truth about our “heroes” until decades later.

Baseball has never made an issue with the recreational drugs like the NFL has.

[GloucesterChief]

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Greatest athletic achievement ever.

[Discuss Thrower]

Man you know the MLB has the full footage of Dock's no-hitter at Area 51.

[Chiefshrink]

Baseball is a magical thing. It's a spiritual sport.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Rain Man]

in the 50’s and 60’s baseball players regularly took “greenies” to get up for games. “Greenies” was speed. Yogi Bera and Mickey Mantle talked about it openly that almost everyone in baseball took them daily. Baseball teams knew about this. They talked to reporters about it when it was happening, not just later when they retired.

They had to do something to stay awake during games.

[Titty Meat]

Baseball is a magical thing. It's a spiritual sport.

Boring ass sport

[eDave]

Greatest athletic achievement ever.

https://tubitv.com/movies/405407/no_no_a_dockumentary

Safe.

The league wide drug use starts just before 23:00.

[Prison Bitch]

Overdose

Fentanyl and alcohol.

He should never have been honored by the fans or his teammates.

[Mecca]

Tyler Skaggs’ autopsy: Fentanyl, oxycodone and alcohol led to death by choking on vomit

Angels pitcher Tyler Skaggs had the opioids fentanyl and oxycodone along with alcohol in his system when he was found dead in his Texas hotel room July 1, according to a toxicology report released Friday by the Tarrant County medical examiner’s office.

The cause of death is listed as a mixture of “alcohol, fentanyl and oxycodone intoxication with terminal aspiration of gastric contents,” meaning Skaggs, 27, essentially choked on his vomit while under the influence. The death, according to the report, was ruled an accident. He was found on his bed, fully clothed, and there were no signs of trauma.

The Southlake, Texas, Police Department is investigating the death, and a statement from Skaggs’ family issued Friday mentions that an Angels employee may have some involvement.

The statement: “We are heartbroken to learn that the passing of our beloved Tyler was the result of a combination of dangerous drugs and alcohol. That is completely out of character for someone who worked so hard to become a Major League Baseball player and had a very promising future in the game he loved so much.

“We are grateful for the work of the detectives in the Southlake Police Department and their ongoing investigation into the circumstances surrounding Tyler’s death. We were shocked to learn that it may involve an employee of the Los Angeles Angels. We will not rest until we learn the truth about how Tyler came into possession of these narcotics, including who supplied them. To that end, we have hired attorney Rusty Hardin to assist us.”

The Angels were staying at a hotel in Southlake ahead of a three-game series against the Texas Rangers. The team arrived the evening of Sunday, June 30, and Skaggs’ body was found in his room at approximately 2:18 p.m. the next day after he didn’t report to the ballpark on time.

What authorities learned about Skaggs’ hotel room is not publicly known because police reports have not been released. The L.A Times and other news outlets requested police, fire department and emergency medical services records related to the incident, but an attorney representing the city of Southlake asked the Texas attorney general whether many of the records are exempt from disclosure. No decision has been reached.

The Southlake attorney said in the letter to the state attorney general that release of some of the materials requested could “interfere with the detection, investigation or prosecution of crime.”

Fentanyl is a powerful synthetic opioid similar to morphine but 50 to 100 times more potent on a weight-by-weight basis. When taken in uncontrolled concentrations by unsuspecting users, or by users whose opioid tolerance has not been heightened by long-term use, the drug is more likely even than prescription opioids to suppress respiration and cause death.

Blood tests showed 3.8 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl in Skaggs’ system, which experts said is a significant amount but not outrageously high. Autopsy blood tests have shown nanograms per millileter levels of over 100.

“The level of fentanyl is a significant amount that could produce death,” said Cyril Wecht, a Pittsburgh forensic pathologist with 40 years of experience. “In this case, oxycodone and alcohol were also present and would have contributed to the death because they are also central nervous system depressants.”

The autopsy report noted the absence of norfentanyl, a metabolite of fentanyl, which Wecht said “means that fentanyl was ingested not long before death occurred.”

Tests showed 38 nanograms per milliliter of the prescription-strength pain killer oxycodone, the use of which is prohibited by Major League Baseball’s Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program, and a blood-alcohol level of 0.122%. A 0.08% limit is considered legally impaired. Fentanyl is not specifically listed on MLB’s banned substance list, but as a “drug of abuse” on the federal Drug Enforcement Administration list, its use is automatically prohibited by MLB.

The Skaggs family recently retained the services of renowned Houston criminal defense attorney Russell “Rusty” Hardin to represent them. Skaggs was on a one-year contract for $3.7 million in his second year of arbitration. He would have been eligible for free agency after the 2020 season.

Hardin has represented and won favorable verdicts for athletes such as Roger Clemens, who was accused of lying before Congress over alleged steroid use; Warren Moon, Scottie Pippen, Rudy Tomjanovich and Wade Boggs.

“I think the thing to keep in mind is they’re just still so devastated, both the wife and the family, about this young man’s death, and they just want to know what happened and how it happened,” Hardin said by phone from his Houston office. “We’re going to want to know how it came about that those drugs were ingested and whether or not others are responsible for what happened.”

Hardin said he has seen the autopsy report but has not seen police reports or spoken to investigators about the case. He said it’s “way too early for us to speculate” on whether there are grounds for legal action.

“You know, if you lose a son, or a husband, or a spouse, it’s just a tremendously horrible experience, and you want to know how it happened,” Hardin said. “So that’s where the family is right now. How did it happen? Was anyone else involved? They just want to get answers.”

Skaggs was found unconscious two days after his final pitching performance June 29, three days before he was scheduled to make his next start. His body was clad in black denim jeans, a decorated belt and dark brown western boots when it arrived at the medical examiner’s office, according to the autopsy report. The outfit appears to be the same one Skaggs wore June 30, when he coordinated a western-themed trip to Texas to celebrate his team’s back-to-back series against the Rangers and Houston Astros.

Skaggs was one of the most popular players in the clubhouse, and he was also one of the Angels’ most reliable pitchers this season, going 7-7 with a 4.29 ERA in 79 2/3 innings across 15 starts. He was 28-38 with a 4.41 ERA during a seven-year major-league career that was interrupted by an elbow surgery in 2014 and several other injuries in subsequent years.

The onslaught of injuries pushed Skaggs last offseason. He worked out with mobility coach Sarah Howard in Los Angeles and consulted with renowned strength coach Eric Cressey in Florida. Only two minor ailments slowed Skaggs in 2019: He experienced soreness in his forearm after experimenting with a new pitch during spring training and missed a start; and he rolled his ankle in an April game against the Chicago Cubs, leading to a 10-day injured list stint.

Skaggs’ death rocked the baseball world. Players around the league saluted Skaggs by etching his initials and jersey number onto their hats and into the dirt on mounds. Teammate Andrew Heaney opened his first start after Skaggs’ death by throwing Skaggs’ signature curveball.

Tributes continued in the July 9 All-Star game in Cleveland, where Angels Mike Trout and Tommy La Stella wore Skaggs’ number underneath their last names and others wore No. 45 patches like the ones the Angels have worn since Skaggs’ death.

The Angels paid homage to their late teammate in their first home game following his death by donning No. 45 jerseys with the name “SKAGGS” on the back in a July 12 game against Seattle. His mother, Debbie, followed a 45-second moment of silence by throwing a strike for the ceremonial first pitch, which was caught by Heaney.

Taylor Cole and Felix Pena threw the second combined no-hitter in franchise history that night in a 13-0 rout of the Mariners, Cole opening with two perfect innings and Pena following with seven no-hit innings. After the final out, players shed their jerseys and arranged them on the mound before saying a prayer. They left the jerseys there as they departed the field.

“You can’t make this stuff up,” Trout said after driving in six runs and noting that the Angels scored seven runs in the first inning and 13 overall and faced 28 batters on the day before Skaggs would have turned 28. His birthday was July 13, or 7/13. “Tonight was in honor of him, and he was definitely looking over us.”

The Angels have set up Skaggs’ locker in every stadium they have visited since his death. Clubhouse managers even made him a throwback jersey when the Angels celebrated 1970s weekend and acquired the necessary materials in Houston last week to customize his Players Weekend jerseys with the nickname he chose for the festivities — “Slick.”

Many of Skaggs’ friends dedicated their Players Weekend jerseys last week in his memory, including Nationals pitcher Patrick Corbin, who was drafted by the Angels in the same year as Trout and Skaggs and was traded with Skaggs to the Arizona Diamondbacks in 2010.

In a memorial service at St. Monica Catholic Church in Santa Monica last month, hundreds paid tribute to a man described as passionate and caring. Skaggs’ wife, Carli, spoke of their love. His mother listened from the front pew as family members and Skaggs’ closest confidants shared their goofiest — and most heart-rending — memories.


In short don't do drugs..

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2019-08-30/tyler-skaggs-autopsy-report-fentanyl-oxycodone-alcohol-angels-rusty-hardin

[siberian khatru]

That’s a toxic cocktail

[Frazod]

That's fucked up. I also find it difficult to believe that there weren't people on the team that didn't know he had problems.

[Mecca]

That's fucked up. I also find it difficult to believe that there weren't people on the team that didn't know he had problems.

I'm sure they did, just like plenty of them likely have their own issues. They may not have known he was using fentanyl though, that shit is hardcore.

[Prison Bitch]

That's fucked up. I also find it difficult to believe that there weren't people on the team that didn't know he had problems.

They absolutely did.

There needs to be a serious looksie into this by MLB. What did the players know and when did they know it?

The writer at the OC Independent paper (who got publicly ripped by the Angels) said it was known Skaggs was a user.

[Prison Bitch]

”We were shocked to learn that it may involve an employee of the Los Angeles Angels”



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[BlackHelicopters]

Junkie

[Marcellus]

Regardless of PB being the judgmental cock holster he always is, this is pretty fucking tragic.

Young guy with his life ahead of him and a great career and he fucks it away partying.

Hey PB he is a white male, your kind of people, you should be pissed it wasn't a brown person.

[Mecca]

People who are using fentanyl aren't partying, they're hardcore drug addicts.

[scho63]

The VERY FIRST game I ever saw was the Pirates (my team) and the Phillies at the VET in Philly. Dock Ellis was the starting pitcher. Also got to see Roberto Clemente, Bill Mazerowski, Willie Stargell and Manny Sanguillen all in one game.

Here is the game's box score.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI197106260.shtml

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[Titty Meat]

Dumbass

[Marcellus]

People who are using fentanyl aren't partying, they're hardcore drug addicts.

Partying is how it starts, at least usually. And Fentanyl is becoming way way more main street than you realize, its also been mixed in with a lot of stuff like cocaine coming from Mexico.

[Mecca]

Partying is how it starts, at least usually. And Fentanyl is becoming way way more main street than you realize, its also been mixed in with a lot of stuff like cocaine coming from Mexico.

And of course this is why it's a huge issue because fentanyl fucking kills bitches and honestly as messed up as this sounds it's not like crack that kills mostly black people this shit is in the suburbs.

[BlackHelicopters]

People who are using fentanyl aren't partying, they're hardcore drug addicts.

What surprises me is we don’t have more of these “accidents” among athletes. Opioids are everywhere. Did the Angels team physician prescribe the Oxy? Taking Oxy is one thing. Mixing in fentanyl signals a hardcore junkie.

[Mecca]

I'd also like to point out how messed up the Angels are in this, when they found him they knew it was an OD...he choked on vomit so it was pretty obvious what happened.

[eDave]

Holy cow.

[DJ's left nut]

That's fucked up. I also find it difficult to believe that there weren't people on the team that didn't know he had problems.

Evidently there are rumors that an Angels team employee was helping him secure the drugs and the family has lawyered up.

This one will get ugly.

EDIT: Guess I should've read the article. Yeah, this don't look good.

[Prison Bitch]

Regardless of PB being the judgmental cock holster he always is, this is pretty ****ing tragic.

Young guy with his life ahead of him and a great career and he ****s it away partying.

Hey PB he is a white male, your kind of people, you should be pissed it wasn't a brown person.



You’re a f**** loser. Always have been, always will.


And nothing your pea-brain conjures up can change one fact: Skaggs died no differently than any other homeless junkie. And should be remembered as such.

[RedRaider56]

And of course this is why it's a huge issue because fentanyl fucking kills bitches and honestly as messed up as this sounds it's not like crack that kills mostly black people this shit is in the suburbs.

Just look at the recent bust in Virginia. Enough Fentanyl to kill 14 Million people AND they are having it delivered from China through USPS. Crazy shit....

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/30/us/virginia-fentanyl-drug-bust/index.html

[Marcellus]

You’re a f**** loser. Always have been, always will.


And nothing your pea-brain conjures up can change one fact: Skaggs died no differently than any other homeless junkie. And should be remembered as such.

You calling me a loser is goddamn hilarious, if I died this second I would be 1,000X the man you will ever be. Skaggs dead is 10X the person you will ever be.

Being an out in the open bigot and a closet homosexual is not ever going to make you a man PB, go ahead and come out and get it over with.

[dlphg9]

The big thing now is pills that have been pressed, he could have just gotten some pills that he believed were oxycodone and they were fakes that were pressed with fentanyl. He could have been taking real oxy and then got the pressed pills. They look like the real deal and the only way to know they're fentanyl is by testing them.

It just doesn't make much sense for a guy to be taking oxy and fentanyl together. I'm willing to bet once an investigation is complete, they'll find out that Angels worker was getting him pills and got into some bad shit.

[Marcellus]

The big thing now is pills that have been pressed, he could have just gotten some pills that he believed were oxycodone and they were fakes that were pressed with fentanyl. He could have been taking real oxy and then got the pressed pills. They look like the real deal and the only way to know they're fentanyl is by testing them.

It just doesn't make much sense for a guy to be taking oxy and fentanyl together. I'm willing to bet once an investigation is complete, they'll find out that Angels worker was getting him pills and got into some bad shit.

Exactly.

[DJ's left nut]

The big thing now is pills that have been pressed, he could have just gotten some pills that he believed were oxycodone and they were fakes that were pressed with fentanyl. He could have been taking real oxy and then got the pressed pills. They look like the real deal and the only way to know they're fentanyl is by testing them.

It just doesn't make much sense for a guy to be taking oxy and fentanyl together. I'm willing to bet once an investigation is complete, they'll find out that Angels worker was getting him pills and got into some bad shit.

What's the upshot to that practice?

Why would someone who's in the business of creating/selling a party drug benefit by making it lethal? Killing one's consumer base seems to be bad for business.

Is this a thing where some people intentionally take oxy laced with fentanyl but Skaggs system may not have been prepared for such a hot dose? Did the guy that was putting the pills together knock a bag of fentanyl into his oxy?

What am I missing about why this is a thing that would've happened to begin with?

[Fish]

Partying is how it starts, at least usually. And Fentanyl is becoming way way more main street than you realize, its also been mixed in with a lot of stuff like cocaine coming from Mexico.

It's too potent to become mainstream. It kills to easily.

[Prison Bitch]

Skaggs dead is 10X the person you will ever be.
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LMAO
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He will always be remembered for one pathetic thing. And nothing will ever change that.

[Prison Bitch]

I'd also like to point out how messed up the Angels are in this, when they found him they knew it was an OD...he choked on vomit so it was pretty obvious what happened.

Exactly right and it’s why I said the Angels should never have honored him. They KNEW damn well what it was when it happened and they shamelessly lied.



This was a critical, vital teaching lesson for young people that drugs are lethal and we do NOT honor junkies when they overdose.

[dlphg9]

What's the upshot to that practice?

Why would someone who's in the business of creating/selling a party drug benefit by making it lethal? Killing one's consumer base seems to be bad for business.

Is this a thing where some people intentionally take oxy laced with fentanyl but Skaggs system may not have been prepared for such a hot dose? Did the guy that was putting the pills together knock a bag of fentanyl into his oxy?

What am I missing about why this is a thing that would've happened to begin with?

Fentanyl is much much cheaper than oxy. So pill maker buys some fentanyl, filler, and a pill press. So he mixes it all up and some pills have too much fentanyl, because of how strong it is and this dude making pills has a scale that is off. He wasn't trying to kill the guy, but he still made alot of money because of how much oxy goes for and how cheap you can get fentanyl. Plus it's not hard to find people who want to buy oxy.

[DJ's left nut]

Fentanyl is much much cheaper than oxy. So pill maker buys some fentanyl, filler, and a pill press. So he mixes it all up and some pills have too much fentanyl, because of how strong it is and this dude making pills has a scale that is off. He wasn't trying to kill the guy, but he still made alot of money because of how much oxy goes for and how cheap you can get fentanyl. Plus it's not hard to find people who want to buy oxy.

Hmmm....

So it's the modern day equivalent of bathtub gin making people go blind.

Interesting.

[dlphg9]

It's too potent to become mainstream. It kills to easily.

Plus fentanyl is pretty shitty when it comes to recreational value.

[Marcellus]

Plus fentanyl is pretty shitty when it comes to recreational value.

My reference to "mainstream' was meant more as in its become way more common. Common and mainstream are pretty much interchangeable.

[dlphg9]

Hmmm....

So it's the modern day equivalent of bathtub gin making people go blind.

Interesting.

The opioid crisis was caused by idiots in the government. They came out and said oh opiates are addictive, so let's regulate the shit out of it and these people that have been taking it for years and years and are now addicted to it, well too bad, no more pills that you've had access to for decades. Well opioid withdrawal isn't fun, so these people go to the streets. Well now it's harder to get pain pills, so drug dealers get online order a shit ton of fentanyl from China and start making fake pills.

So people think they're buying 10 mg oxy and say that person usually takes 30 mgs at a time. Instead of getting 30 mgs of oxy they are getting an unknown quantity of fentanyl or hell maybe a fentanyl analog like carfentanyl which is 100 to 200 times more potent than fentanyl.

Let's say you're lucky and you get the real deal, so you're alive. Well you're broke as can be from spending all your money on oxy, so your drug dealer says hey I can get you something else that's not as expensive and it works as good as oxy. Well you're broke and sick as shit so you get some heroin. Well fuck that's laced with fentanyl too and you just died.

All because the government decided opiates were too addictive and your doc cut you off cold turkey, because he had to follow new regs and all these doctors are getting arrested for running pill Mills.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Of course his family wants to blame anyone other than their junkie son.

[BigRedChief]

Hmmm....

So it's the modern day equivalent of bathtub gin making people go blind.

Interesting.kind of except most don’t know it’s bathtub gin, it’s supposed to be the real thing. I’m assuming Prince and the professional ball player can afford the real deal and was assured it was real Oxy.

Same thing with Prince and thousands of others, they think they are taking Oxy but it’s laced with Fentayl and they are probably not even aware of it in their OXy.

[seclark]

kind of except most don’t know it’s bathtub gin, it’s supposed to be the real thing. I’m assuming Prince and the professional ball player can afford the real deal and was assured it was real Oxy.

Same thing with Prince and thousands of others, they think they are taking Oxy but it’s laced with Fentayl and they are probably not even aware of it in their OXy.

Yep.
Bad shit.
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[Prison Bitch]

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“Choked on his own vomit” ��


And she knew that, and still put out that outrageous denial.

[redshirt32]

Quit cold turkey 3 years ago, had a RX for 180 5mg tabs per month for Oxy for 6 years through the VA.
That was hella detox worst ever, utopia when you have it pure evil when your out.
You think you can manage a few beers and oxy pills until you forget how many pills/ beers you have consumed.
RIP MY FRIEND PAIN IS A MF TO MANAGE.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

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[stumppy]

The opioid crisis was caused by idiots in the government. They came out and said oh opiates are addictive, so let's regulate the shit out of it and these people that have been taking it for years and years and are now addicted to it, well too bad, no more pills that you've had access to for decades. Well opioid withdrawal isn't fun, so these people go to the streets. Well now it's harder to get pain pills, so drug dealers get online order a shit ton of fentanyl from China and start making fake pills.

So people think they're buying 10 mg oxy and say that person usually takes 30 mgs at a time. Instead of getting 30 mgs of oxy they are getting an unknown quantity of fentanyl or hell maybe a fentanyl analog like carfentanyl which is 100 to 200 times more potent than fentanyl.

Let's say you're lucky and you get the real deal, so you're alive. Well you're broke as can be from spending all your money on oxy, so your drug dealer says hey I can get you something else that's not as expensive and it works as good as oxy. Well you're broke and sick as shit so you get some heroin. Well fuck that's laced with fentanyl too and you just died.

All because the government decided opiates were too addictive and your doc cut you off cold turkey, because he had to follow new regs and all these doctors are getting arrested for running pill Mills.

Wrong and right.

The Joint Commission and big Pharma are who/what started the opioid crisis around 2001.

Between TJC pushing to have pain classified and treated as a vital sign and big pharma companies aggressively marketing and lying about how addictive the newer opiates (oxycontin for example) were it was a recipe for the crisis.
Then the government stepped in and started heavily regulating opiates without a plan to deal with the fallout.

[vailpass]

Quit cold turkey 3 years ago, had a RX for 180 5mg tabs per month for Oxy for 6 years through the VA.
That was hella detox worst ever, utopia when you have it pure evil when your out.
You think you can manage a few beers and oxy pills until you forget how many pills/ beers you have consumed.
RIP MY FRIEND PAIN IS A MF TO MANAGE.

Good on you, glad you worked your way out.

[Prison Bitch]

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“Choked on his own vomit” ��


And she knew that, and still put out that outrageous denial.



Angels employee details team's knowledge of Tyler Skaggs' drug use to DEA



A public relations employee for the Los Angeles Angels told federal investigators that he provided oxycodone to Tyler Skaggs and abused it with him for years, and that two team officials were told about Skaggs' drug use long before his death, according to two sources familiar with the investigation.

Eric Kay, the Angels' director of communications, also gave U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agents the names of five other players who he believed were using opiates while they were Angels, the sources said.

https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/27828247/los-angeles-angels-employee-details-team-knowledge-tyler-skaggs-drug-use-federal-dea-investigators-espn