Let’s talk about the upside of this offense

[pugsnotdrugs19]

With the Cheetah back in the fold all season, this offense may look even better on paper than last year...

I don’t know that the production is the same, but man for man, they appear more dangerous... sure Hunt is better than Williams, but I think the RB room is filled with depth that can fill out roles...

The WR room is as deep as it is stout. Speed and more speed. If Hardman can pick things up quick, look out...

If we can avoid catastrophic injuries, I see no reason why this isn’t a 12-16 win team.... yeah, I said it...

Now go fap away with these Tyreek highlights: https://youtu.be/uDwlF_hgFjI

[carcosa]

Hell yeah!!!!!!! 19-0 50 PPG

[St. Patty's Fire]

If the defense is league average or better, we’ll go 15-1 or 16-0

If it’s in the lower 20s, we’ll probably win 12.

The offense is going to be legendary (again). Possibly better than last year. Mahomes has a year under his belt, we’ve added Hard Man, Watkins seems to be primed for a good year, we just need Kelce to come back healthy. Hopefully the preseason allows to shake off any rust.

Not to mention Reid expanding the playbook (with some help from Pat, I’m sure) and Bienemy not being stolen away. It’s a perfect storm, really.

I am interested to see what happens at the RB position. Wanna see Darwin Thompson in action badly, he seems like an obvious steal and a great fit in this offense. Hyde and D Will 2 should compete for some carries as well.

[Best22]

It’s faster
Just look at things from a speed perspective:

Hill=Hill
Kelce=Kelce
Watkins=Watkins
Hardman>Conley
Robinson=Robinson
Williams>Hunt

That’s the fastest receiver, a very fast TE, Watkins claims to be in better shape, Hardman is a burner, Robinson has some speed, and Damien Williams is the fastest RB we’ve had since Charles. Oh, and Mahomes is probably gonna be a bit faster (and stronger) this year a season well

!!!!!!

[loochy]

With the Cheetah back in the fold all season, this offense may look even better on paper than last year...

I don’t know that the production is the same, but man for man, they appear more dangerous... sure Hunt is better than Williams, but I think the RB room is filled with depth that can fill out roles...

The WR room is as deep as it is stout. Speed and more speed. If Hardman can pick things up quick, look out...

If we can avoid catastrophic injuries, I see no reason why this isn’t a 12-16 win team.... yeah, I said it...

Now go fap away with these Tyreek highlights: https://youtu.be/uDwlF_hgFjI

I think Kelce is key here. We can afford a WR injury, but not one at TE.

[BleedingRed]

How do you defend 4 vert routes if all the WRs are sub 4.4?

[loochy]

How do you defend 4 vert routes if all the WRs are sub 4.4?

Uncalled PI

[RunKC]

Don’t forget John Lovett. He was the 2nd most athletic TE in this draft class behind Noah Fant.

4.56 40 and 6.94 3 cone

Dude is gonna be a big upgrade over Incompletetrious Harris

[ModSocks]

Later. We have all of camp for that.

Right now we're bathing in the salty tears of the stupids, SJW's and media hacks.

[BleedingRed]

Later. We have all of camp for that.

Right now we're bathing in the salty tears of the stupids, SJW's and media hacks.

Better believe this episode galvanized the team....... This is the story line that starts the "Us vs The World" type stuff.........

[ChiefGator]

sure Hunt is better than Williams

Between the guards, yeah, probably. Not so sure about out in space.

The numbers don't back up a drop at the RB position.. just need to scheme a bit more.

[Dunerdr]

remember when robinson came aboard and people were hoping that his 4.45 speed could add something that no one but hill had. now hes the slowest guy in the projected rotation..

[FDrumpf]

Later. We have all of camp for that.

Right now we're bathing in the salty tears of the stupids, SJW's and media hacks.

Watch black football players run around in tights but deride social justice

Cognitive dissonance and cuckery seem to go hand in hand

[BleedingRed]

remember when robinson came aboard and people were hoping that his 4.45 speed could add something that no one but hill had. now hes the slowest guy in the projected rotation..

and not even by a little...........

Hill = 4.29
Watkins = 4.34
Hardmon = 4.33

[KC_Lee]

How do you defend 4 vert routes if all the WRs are sub 4.4?

Hope / Pray for a delayed hand off / draw play.

[BleedingRed]

Screw it what if we go 5 wide!?!?!

Hill
Watkins
Hardmon
Robinson
Kelce

WHAT DO YOU DO!?!?!

[ForeverIowan]

If the defense is league average or better, we’ll go 15-1 or 16-0

If it’s in the lower 20s, we’ll probably win 12.

The offense is going to be legendary (again). Possibly better than last year. Mahomes has a year under his belt, we’ve added Hard Man, Watkins seems to be primed for a good year, we just need Kelce to come back healthy. Hopefully the preseason allows to shake off any rust.

Not to mention Reid expanding the playbook (with some help from Pat, I’m sure) and Bienemy not being stolen away. It’s a perfect storm, really.

I am interested to see what happens at the RB position. Wanna see Darwin Thompson in action badly, he seems like an obvious steal and a great fit in this offense. Hyde and D Will 2 should compete for some carries as well.

If Darwin Thompson turns into a Darren Sproles or Tarik Cohen type of player this offense could go down as the best ever. Thompsons burst and allusiveness is off the charts along with his pass catching ability out of the backfield. We all know you cant play zone vs. Mahomes and that cannon of an arm. The Colts figured that out the hard way. Play man and Thompson is singled on a linebacker with choice routes out of the backfield. Absolute field day ALL.DAY.LONG! Just too many weapons to defend.

[keg in kc]

Just keep Mahomes healthy. Pleeease.

[Best22]

Watch black football players run around in tights but deride social justice

Cognitive dissonance and outstanding citizenery seem to go hand in hand

What does that have to do with social justice?

Would you rather the players wear combat fatigues? And what is it with old people getting triggered by tights?

DC is that way—>

[Iconic]

Good luck to the Patriots and their cover 1 blitzes. You shade McCourty over Hill like you did in the AFC game and other half of the field is getting burnt by Mecole.

Offense is going to be unstoppable. There's not enough talent on really any NFL defense to schematically contain what we have. Only thing stopping us is an off night from Mahomes and O-Line injuries.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Good luck to the Patriots and their cover 1 blitzes. You shade McCourty over Hill like you did in the AFC game and other half of the field is getting burnt by Mecole.

Offense is going to be unstoppable. There's not enough talent on really any NFL defense to schematically contain what we have. Only thing stopping us is an off night from Mahomes and O-Line injuries.

Great test week 1. Jacksonville has the best set of corners in football.

[Baby Lee]

Dafuq is citizenery?

[ChiefBlueCFC]

It’s faster
Just look at things from a speed perspective:

Hill=Hill
Kelce=Kelce
Watkins=Watkins
Hardman>Conley
Robinson=Robinson
Williams>Hunt

That’s the fastest receiver, a very fast TE, Watkins claims to be in better shape, Hardman is a burner, Robinson has some speed, and Damien Williams is the fastest RB we’ve had since Charles. Oh, and Mahomes is probably gonna be a bit faster (and stronger) this year a season well

!!!!!!

I wouldn't say Williams > Hunt, as I think Hunt is better. But the drop off is absolutely minimal as Williams is faster than Hunt but Hunt is more powerful and harder to tackle. But Williams having a full year as the primary back, he's about to have an absolute career year.

Also, Darwin Thompson is about to break out the second half of the year// I'm fucking ready for Mahomes to have 98 TDS and 6235 yards

[Halfcan]

Better believe this episode galvanized the team....... This is the story line that starts the "Us vs The World" type stuff.........

This team is already tight. The offense are all very close and Honey Badger is leading the defense.

Teams are going to have to beat us for four quarters straight to win- if they let up in the fourth we can put a lot of points on the board in a hurry.

I want to beat the Faders, Donks, Chargers and Pats twice each this year including the playoffs.

[chiefzilla1501]

A few things....
I hope Hardman will be used not just as a receiver but as a receiving option DAT was supposed to be. We need an underneath option who can also get tons of YAC.

Mahomes will be better. Ravens and Pats found a blueprint to scheme him as best they can. No doubt Reid has found a fix. And Brandon Daly is a wildly underrated move for our offense. He will make sure mahomes sees these fronts in practice.

Williams is fine. But mahomes has to be better at finding the check down when needed. Darwin will help us get the bowling ball yards we used to get with kareem.

I loved hearing mahomes say was he's working on his footwork. I actually think he's been too inaccurate on the deep stuff and I hate when he throws off his back foot when he doesn't need to. We were awesome on long plays. It's amazing to think we should have been even better.

[ModSocks]

A few things....
I hope Hardman will be used not just as a receiver but as a receiving option DAT was supposed to be. We need an underneath option who can also get tons of YAC.



He will primarily be used in DAT's old role. It's been noted (yesterday actually) that Robinson is taking over Conley's old role.

[Aspengc8]

Screw it what if we go 5 wide!?!?!

Hill
Watkins
Hardmon
Robinson
Kelce

WHAT DO YOU DO!?!?!

blitz

[chiefzilla1501]

He will primarily be used in DAT's old role. It's been noted (yesterday actually) that Robinson is taking over Conley's old role.

Robinson in Conleys role is intriguing. I don't know that Robinson can ever be a 1 or 2 receiver. His value seems to be being mahomes' #1 improv option and the two have terrific chemistry when mahomes starts moving around. Conley struggled with separation. His value seemed to be being open when mahomes went through all his reads. So that seems like a really really good fit for Robinson.

[loochy]

blitz

then dump to williams

[Mecca]

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[Chiefshrink]

Let's hope Andy doesn't overdose with all this "Offensive Heroin".:D

[Chiefshrink]

Darwin will help us get the bowling ball yards we used to get with kareem.


Nope. Darwin will be the DAT you think Hardman will be. Darwin fits the role much better IMHO.

[Rain Man]

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[Halfcan]

Let's hope Andy doesn't overdose with all this "Offensive Heroin".:D

But "teams have TAPE of Mahomes" now!!

They have Tape guys...tape... they can stop us now because now they won't be surprised how awesome he is. :)

"KEEP HIM IN THE POCKET!!!!"

[SAUTO]

I wouldn't say Williams > Hunt, as I think Hunt is better. But the drop off is absolutely minimal as Williams is faster than Hunt but Hunt is more powerful and harder to tackle. But Williams having a full year as the primary back, he's about to have an absolute career year.

Also, Darwin Thompson is about to break out the second half of the year// I'm fucking ready for Mahomes to have 98 TDS and 6235 yards
He said from a speed perspective, you agreed. Lol.

[Wilson8]

The Kansas City Chiefs Offense will be awesome and I am looking forward to watching it.

BUT

Every NFL defense that plays KC is going to circle the date they play KC and their defensive coordinator will be looking ahead at what the Chiefs are doing. When an NFL Team plays against the best offense, they are going to be trying to come up with ways to try and at least slow us down. I think Andy Reid will plan for that and we will see quicker releases but our offense will have to be flexible with what teams throw at us.

[chiefzilla1501]

Nope. Darwin will be the DAT you think Hardman will be. Darwin fits the role much better IMHO.

I should rephrase... I think the Chiefs WANTED DAT to be a replacement for Albert wilson. We miss Wilson. Darwin and Damien are good checkdown and screen options. But Wilson was a guy you could use for jet sweeps and to run or sometimes sprint underneath the coverage. We saw what happened in New England when we can't throw underneath our vertical routes. Defenses are going to more and more stack deep to stop us. We need to punish them when they do. What intrigues me about Hardman isn't just his speed, it's his agility. That's a great weapon for that role.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

How about Chiefs run a double decoy with Hardman and Hill. When the ball is snapped nobody will be looking at Mahomes. And Mahomes wont looking at anybody either because he throws a no look 60 yard bomb, dropped on a dime, to Sammy Watkins of whom catches the ball one handed and literally walks into the end zone!!!

[loochy]

We saw what happened in New England when we can't throw underneath our vertical routes. Defenses are going to more and more stack deep to stop us. We need to punish them when they do.

yeah, then we only score 40 points

[FloridaMan88]

Sammy Watkins has said he is fully healthy and in the best shape of his career and he's had a full season in this offense with Mahomes.

Mecole Hardman provides another ultra speedy/gadget player type option.

And now Tyreek gets added back into the equation.

Mahomes may throw for 6,000 yards this season.

[loochy]

The Chiefs will be the first team to ever score 100 points in a game.

Write that down.

[Chief Pagan]

The Chiefs will be the first team to ever score 100 points in a game.

Write that down.

I hope not. Either the defense is sucking ass or Andy is running up the score. I’m ready for PM to be sitting out the fourth quarter.

[smithandrew051]

I hope not. Either the defense is sucking ass or Andy is running up the score. I’m ready for PM to be sitting out the fourth quarter.

What if it’s the Super Bowl and Andy Reid runs up the score on the Rams?

[Easy 6]

One things for sure, I’m gonna pillage this years Madden

Playing with this group will even be more fun than playing with the 99 Rams... sick speed everywhere you look, and a QB they created a first of its kind talent package for

People are gonna get hurt, both on the tv and in real life

[Lprechaun]

We will see more panic in opposing defenses than this league has ever seen.
Defensive coordinators will be throwing their hands in the air by the end of the first quarter.
Just too much firepower

[Chiefshrink]

But "teams have TAPE of Mahomes" now!!

They have Tape guys...tape... they can stop us now because now they won't be surprised how awesome he is. :)

"KEEP HIM IN THE POCKET!!!!"

Yeah, it has been hilarious to listen to the majority of the national sports media's narrative that PM2 will take a step back. I think he matches last year if not surpasses his numbers assuming we have limited health issues along the way.

Here is what separates Mahomes from the other young QBs who struggle. Besides having a bazooka for an arm and instinct and maturity of a 35 y.o. vet he desires and works hard at being a thorough student of the game and just happens to have a coach that specializes in beating defenses who he knows how to prepare for even IF they have the tape and who has been in this position before and will make sure PM2 stays ahead of their game and what to look for.

[suzzer99]

If Hardman flashes and Watkins stays healthy - Mahomes could beat his numbers from last year.

But only if he needs to because our D is terrible again.

[New World Order]

If Hardman flashes and Watkins stays healthy - Mahomes could beat his numbers from last year.

But only if he needs to because our D is terrible again.

I think the games will slow down this year, but our defense is going to give our offense more possessions.

A lot of these games are going to be over by mid-third quarter.

[Lprechaun]

I think the games will slow down this year, but our defense is going to give our offense more possessions.

A lot of these games are going to be over by mid-third.

I think after the end of the season we may look at that being the reason Mahomes numbers drop off.
If the game is in hand, and unlike last year the defense can make stops it would make sense.

[stevieray]

While we still go deep, I see us torching underneath too..I think we see shorter passes for big chunks..I think PM will be even more efficient in his throws and decision making.

Most anticipated season in forever.

[Tribal Warfare]

Zoom, Zoom

[New World Order]

While we still go deep, I see us torching underneath too..I think we see shorter passes for big chunks..I think PM will be even more efficient in his throws and decision making.

Most anticipated season in forever.

There's just too much speed to play man and you can't play zone against Andy/Mahomes.

Defenses are going to have to be conservative and keep their safeties high. The screen game could be a big factor this year.

[big nasty kcnut]

I just want pringle in there i feel his speed will hurt other teams defense.

[Easy 6]

A lot of these games are going to be over by mid-third quarter.

100% fact

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

lets the games begin!

Linebackers will be stuck in Quicksand with RPO action and this speed.

[BigRedChief]

We will see more panic in opposing defenses than this league has ever seen.
Defensive coordinators will be throwing their hands in the air by the end of the first quarter.
Just too much firepowerno matter how much film they watch. How well they plan a defense, They send Hardman and Hill on deep routes and by some miracle they are both covered by a CB and safety. Mahomes has no where to go deep.

How are they going to cover Kelsey one on one over the middle? Or the RB gets past the LB’s? There is going to be a lot of chunks of yards available to be taken advantage of by Mahomes.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

This is going to be Watkins best year ever. Watch.

[JakeF]

Our offense was awesome last year, not sure what more people want. If Watkins hadn't gotten hurt last year our numbers would have been obscene.

It's the defense that is the problem, along with Team health.

[JakeF]

This is going to be Watkins best year ever. Watch.

Johnny Manziel is going to be a HoF quarterback. Watch.

[Chief Roundup]

I think the games will slow down this year, but our defense is going to give our offense more possessions.

A lot of these games are going to be over by mid-third quarter.


I fucking hope not!!! That just means that the network will be switching to a more competitive game. That shit pisses me off.

[New World Order]

I ****ing hope not!!! That just means that the network will be switching to a more competitive game. That shit pisses me off.

The real fun comes playoff time.

Blow them out and get our starters off the field.

[Jerm]

Unstoppable.....

Seriously how do you scheme against this?

With Hardman and DRob, you can now line up Tyreek wherever you want and use him however you want.

Andy has to have an everlasting boner...

[WhiteWhale]

Upside is unprecedented production.

[WhiteWhale]

I ****ing hope not!!! That just means that the network will be switching to a more competitive game. That shit pisses me off.

Bah, I'm semi-local. KC games air to the end no matter the score.

Same is true for Bronco and Cowboys games though. Ugh.

[petegz28]

It’s faster
Just look at things from a speed perspective:

Hill=Hill
Kelce=Kelce
Watkins=Watkins
Hardman>Conley
Robinson=Robinson
Williams>Hunt

That’s the fastest receiver, a very fast TE, Watkins claims to be in better shape, Hardman is a burner, Robinson has some speed, and Damien Williams is the fastest RB we’ve had since Charles. Oh, and Mahomes is probably gonna be a bit faster (and stronger) this year a season well

!!!!!!

I'm with you except the Hunt part. Hunt was a bad ass RB both running and catching the ball. Williams is not Hunt and not so sure he is faster or faster to the point that it matters.

[WhiteWhale]

I'm with you except the Hunt part. Hunt was a bad ass RB both running and catching the ball. Williams is not Hunt and not so sure he is faster or faster to the point that it matters.

IMO, Hunt is the best back in football.

Everyone produces in Andy's offense, and ultimately RB doens't matter THAT much... but you watch Hunt shed 2 guys, leap a dude, and then plow a guy 5 years into the endzone. He's ****ing awesome. Always at the top of yards AFTER contact.

Williams was a 3rd string pass catching back. He didn't become awesome. Andy's run scheme is awesome. He just panics and abandons it too often.

Hunt made more game changing plays, but Williams is fine given the cast we have. He'll be supplanted in the near future anyway.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

IMO, Hunt is the best back in football.

Everyone produces in Andy's offense, and ultimately RB doens't matter THAT much... but you watch Hunt shed 2 guys, leap a dude, and then plow a guy 5 years into the endzone. He's ****ing awesome. Always at the top of yards AFTER contact.

Williams was a 3rd string pass catching back. He didn't become awesome. Andy's run scheme is awesome. He just panics and abandons it too often.

Hunt made more game changing plays, but Williams is fine given the cast we have. He'll be supplanted in the near future anyway.

Totally agree. Watching that Chargers game today at 10 minutes in qtr 4 Williams tkes a run and I swear, his burst was exactly like Tyreek Hill. I thought thats who had the ball. He levels that defender making the tackle.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

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[Chief Pagan]

What if it’s the Super Bowl and Andy Reid runs up the score on the Rams?

Meh. I'll make an exception for the Pats.

[RunKC]

While we still go deep, I see us torching underneath too..I think we see shorter passes for big chunks..I think PM will be even more efficient in his throws and decision making.

Most anticipated season in forever.

I agree. Last year he looked like a rookie sometimes trying to do too much. I think he’ll have that ironed out this year now that he has experience.

Here’s a good example of an easy one he missed last year that I don’t think he will this year:

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Kelce was open at the sticks:

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[Pasta Little Brioni]

The Chiefs will be the first team to ever score 100 points in a game.

Write that down.

You went full Boss Chief ROFL

[BigRedChief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs in Week 1 could field 10 personnel with Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Byron Pringle, Mecole Hardman, and Damien Williams.<br><br>The average 40 time of that group of players is 4.39s. ������</p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1152258012452708354?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[lewdog]

We look better on paper, which is crazy to say.


But as always, it comes down to staying healthy.

[comochiefsfan]

It’s really a shame that Kareem is an idiot because this season will be a running back’s dream and he would have been unstoppable.

Defenses will have to routinely drop 7-8 into coverage and the box will be incredibly light on a consistent basis.

Damien should absolutely feast.

[Chiefshrink]

It’s really a shame that Kareem is an idiot because this season will be a running back’s dream and he would have been unstoppable.

Defenses will have to routinely drop 7-8 into coverage and the box will be incredibly light on a consistent basis.

Damien should absolutely feast.

Agreed. But every back will feast especially Darwin who can be used in several other positions.

[Hammock Parties]

98 Vikings.

[St. Patty's Fire]

98 Vikings.

Better

[BossChief]

blitzcool.

All of our weapons on offense can beat man coverage and take it to the house.

And our offensive line is pretty good, too.

[Halfcan]

cool.

All of our weapons on offense can beat man coverage and take it to the house.

And our offensive line is pretty good, too.

I keep seeing it posted that teams are going to have to play a safety deep so Reek won't burn them- and then another safety to cover Kelce?

Seems like a mismatch and that leaves zero run support.

So does that leave a linebacker on Williams? Huge mismatch.

Or you use a CB or LB to try and cover Kelce and leave your safety in for run support and swing passes? Mismatch on Kelce.

Or am I overthinking this? :hmmm:

[BossChief]

You went full Boss Chief ROFL

I never went that far...but we topped 50 last year...and likely will again this year.

I’m also sticking by my comment of Mahomes have got the potential to have games with more than 600 yards.

[BossChief]

I keep seeing it posted that teams are going to have to play a safety deep so Reek won't burn them- and then another safety to cover Kelce?

Seems like a mismatch and that leaves zero run support.

So does that leave a linebacker on Williams? Huge mismatch.

Or you use a CB or LB to try and cover Kelce and leave your safety in for run support and swing passes? Mismatch on Kelce.

Or am I overthinking this? :hmmm:

Nobody is going to be able to stop this offense.

It’s probably the most talented offense in history.

[Hammock Parties]

you can't play man defense against this team

we're gonna face 7 and 8-man zones all year long

mecole will catch 500 2-yard drags and run for 20 yards

this is gonna be so easy for patrick

and if there's pressure he'll just use his special madden ability, roll out and chuck it deep to someone on a blown coverage

YAHTZEE!

[BossChief]

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=323322

[T-post Tom]

Jalen Ramsey is on suicide watch.

[BossChief]

The opener should be as good of a shot any NFL team will have against Pat.

Jack is as good as it gets at LBers that can run with Kelce.

2 good corners

Strong DL to create pressure

Time to prepare.

And the offense will likely still put up 40 and put the rest of the NFL on notice.

[Halfcan]

Nobody is going to be able to stop this offense.

It’s probably the most talented offense in history.

Exactly, so you put your #1 CB on Reek which gives you 50/50 shot of covering him- then a safety deep, for half the time your #1 can't cover.

2 of your defensive pieces are off the board.

Your #2 CB on Watkins, #3 CB on DRob a Safty on Kelce.

5 Defensive players off the board- Correct?

So that leaves you 6 Defensive players. If you rush 4 guys- that leaves 2 to cover the entire middle of the field and your LB #1 on Williams-which would still be a mismatch.

Rush 3 and drop 3 back to cover short-yardage- Mahomes has all day and you better hope your secondary does not get burned deep.

What if they line up Hardman as well? You will have to use your CB#4 or a LB which looks like a huge mismatch.

D Coordinators can disguise blitzes and try to confuse Mahomes- but that does not change the fact we have players that create consistent mismatches in man coverage and Reek will have to be left 1 on 1 if you want any kind of decent run support.

I would love to see some of the Defensive minded guys on here make a thread to explain how the Chiefs will not have some kind of edge nearly every play? :hmmm:

[T-post Tom]

The opener should be as good of a shot any NFL team will have against Pat. Jack is as good as it gets at LBers that can run with Kelce. 2 good corners Strong DL to create pressure Time to prepare. And the offense will likely still put up 40 and put the rest of the NFL on notice.

Have to diasagree with this. Reid & the Chiefs are the ones benefitting most from having time to prepare. Whether it's coming off a bye week or a season opener, they have proven their ability to out scheme and out match their opponents. I would give the Bears and the Patriots better odds of beating the Chiefs than the Jaguars.

[Hammock Parties]

The opener should be as good of a shot any NFL team will have against Pat.

Jack is as good as it gets at LBers that can run with Kelce.

2 good corners

Strong DL to create pressure

Time to prepare.

And the offense will likely still put up 40 and put the rest of the NFL on notice.

we are going to murderize foles

i bet mahomes throws for a buck twenty and we win

[DTVietnam]

our offense will be amazing and production shouldnt drop ..but its a downgrade from the start of last year..

Hunt gone
Harris Gone
Coneely Gone

Can we stop with d-rob and dieter talks..

I dont know why everyone is crowing Hardman already..
yeah hes fast but alot of guys like him dont make it in the NFl..remember DAT??

Im hopeful but we need to wait and see..

[Hammock Parties]

Harris Gone


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[comochiefsfan]

our offense will be amazing and production shouldnt drop ..but its a downgrade from the start of last year..

Hunt gone
Harris Gone
Coneely Gone

Can we stop with d-rob and dieter talks..

I dont know why everyone is crowing Hardman already..
yeah hes fast but alot of guys like him dont make it in the NFl..remember DAT??

Im hopeful but we need to wait and see..

The only loss that really bothers me is Hunt because

A. He would have been absolutely dominant with this supporting cast

B. We need defenses to respect the running game to really open up the potential of the passing attack. Defenses did not want to let Kareem beat them. I’m thinking they’ll be happy to let Williams do so until he proves that he commands attention.

[DTVietnam]

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He played his role well..came up with some big catches. .

yes he dropped alot of balls and i still hate him and his entire family but who do we have backing up Kelce now? serious question who is our TE2..Bell?

[T-post Tom]

He played his role well..came up with some big catches. .

yes he dropped alot of balls and i still hate him and his entire family but who do we have backing up Kelce now? serious question who is our TE2..Bell?

I'm pretty happy to have a team whose biggest concern on offense is the backup tight end.

[DTVietnam]

I'm pretty happy to have a team whose biggest concern on offense is the backup tight end.

yeah maybe you guys are right..f*ck Harris..

we good on offense..

without tyreek i think there wouldve been a significant drop off..but im excited to watch these guys play..

Tyreek with a chip on his shoulder in the prime of his career ..shit is going to be nasty

[T-post Tom]

yeah maybe you guys are right..fuck Harris..

we good on offense..

without tyreek i think there wouldve been a significant drop off..but im excited to watch these guys play..

Tyreek with a chip on his shoulder in the prime of his career ..shit is going to be nasty

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[Chargem]

I agree. Last year he looked like a rookie sometimes trying to do too much. I think he’ll have that ironed out this year now that he has experience.

Here’s a good example of an easy one he missed last year that I don’t think he will this year:

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Kelce was open at the sticks:

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Need the end on view of this, it looks to me although Kelce is free the Dlinemen are completely blocking the throwing lane.

[ChiefGator]

and if there's pressure he'll just use his special madden ability, roll out and chuck it deep to someone on a blown coverage

Oh, damn! Madden 2020 may be released in as soon as five days!

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[TRR]

He played his role well..came up with some big catches. .

yes he dropped alot of balls and i still hate him and his entire family but who do we have backing up Kelce now? serious question who is our TE2..Bell?

Deon Yelder is the most likely candidate. He was hurt during OTA’s but should be full go by training camp. I think most will be pleasantly surprised by what he brings to the table. He’s an athletic kid with a lot of run after the catch ability and seems to be a willing blocker.

Bell and Lovett will fight it out for the #3 spot.

[Chiefs Moon]

Chiefs play several great defenses this year: Jags, Ravens, Patriots, Broncos. They can all run the ball. If we score 30+ on them it might be because Hardman and/or Hill are killing teams on returns. I don't expect high yardage totals, but Special Teams might help win field position. I'm looking for better Special Teams production this year. Teams should improve with defensive schemes, but all that can be offset with great field position.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I keep forgetting that JAX is without Telvin Smith. That’s big.