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rabblerouser
07-22-2019, 08:12 AM
So fucking stupid.

This guy is a Patriots beat writer for some NH paper :

<a href="https://ibb.co/VY1LZwS"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/nMGwvPc/Screenshot-2019-07-22-08-47-21.png" alt="Screenshot-2019-07-22-08-47-21" border="0"></a><br /><a target='_blank' href='https://poetandpoem.com/Alfred-Joyce-Kilmer'>alfred kilmer</a><br />


This guy is just a total douchebag :

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Light 'em up if you've got some down time at work today.

FlaChief58
07-22-2019, 08:15 AM
So fucking stupid.

This guy is a Patriots beat writer for some NH paper :

<a href="https://ibb.co/VY1LZwS"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/nMGwvPc/Screenshot-2019-07-22-08-47-21.png" alt="Screenshot-2019-07-22-08-47-21" border="0"></a><br /><a target='_blank' href='https://poetandpoem.com/Alfred-Joyce-Kilmer'>alfred kilmer</a><br />


This guy is just a total douchebag :

<a href="https://ibb.co/SwSxnpf"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/chqvFdY/Screenshot-2019-07-22-08-38-53.png" alt="Screenshot-2019-07-22-08-38-53" border="0"></a>

Light 'em up if you've got some down time at work today.

What is this "work" thing you speak of? :D

Mecca
07-22-2019, 08:15 AM
Personally, the funniest part of all of it is how this is based in them being scared the Chiefs will beat them...

The Patriots have been the favored son for long, getting every call etc etc, and don't give me that Chiefs shit, the NFL office has bent the Chiefs over and at every fucking turn for as long as I can remember.

ChiTown
07-22-2019, 08:17 AM
Who gives a f? It's twitter, which is full of douchebags and retards.

Chiefsguyinri
07-22-2019, 08:19 AM
They can't change my mind that they are classless cheaters with a a te that was a murderer and an owner who sex traffics.

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 08:20 AM
No sane person though that Hill would get a full season penalty or anything. Whether he is with you the first, whatever, 2, 4, 6 games or not, I at least expect to see you at the AFCCG again.

The real bottom line here is that Goodell and the NFL are nothing more than a keystone cop comedy routine when it comes to enforcing their conduct/personnel policy. It's not just Patriots fans lighting them up -- the entire national media seems to be pretty much on board with the complete lack of consistency.



Let me say this -- I would LOVE to see what this place would look like if Hill was a Patriots player and this exact sequence of events happened. You guys talk about the Patriots owning Goodell... :rolleyes:

Marcellus
07-22-2019, 08:20 AM
Yea that moron thinks the NFL should have suspended Hill for what happened in 2014, 2 years before he was drafted. Fucking idiot.

Marcellus
07-22-2019, 08:22 AM
No sane person though that Hill would get a full season penalty or anything. Whether he is with you the first, whatever, 2, 4, 6 games or not, I at least expect to see you at the AFCCG again.

The real bottom line here is that Goodell and the NFL are nothing more than a keystone cop comedy routine when it comes to enforcing their conduct/personnel policy. It's not just Patriots fans lighting them up -- the entire national media seems to be pretty much on board with the complete lack of consistency.



Let me say this -- I would LOVE to see what this place would look like if Hill was a Patriots player and this exact sequence of events happened. You guys talk about the Patriots owning Goodell... :rolleyes:



The ONLY thing out there questionable is Hill's comment, and if he could reasonably explain the context and meaning then there is nothing to punish him for. Period.

The reality is the NFL has ALL the data and evidence, we don't have Hill's side of the story, the text messages and what other info he provided in defense.

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 08:25 AM
They can't change my mind that they are classless cheaters with a a te that was a murderer and an owner who sex traffics.


Your morality seems....highly subjective. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that the Chiefs had a player who committed murder also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher


And you care about class but don't care about cheering for a player who is on tape saying, "you need to be terrified of me too bitch"?

Marcellus
07-22-2019, 08:26 AM
Your morality seems....highly subjective. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that the Chiefs had a player who committed murder also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher


And you care about class but don't care about cheering for a player who is on tape saying, "you need to be terrified of me too bitch"?

What if he was talking about money and custody of his kids?

Mecca
07-22-2019, 08:27 AM
If I was a child, Tom Brady would terrify me, I'd be like ah fuck it's that dude that likes to make out with kids.

Dunerdr
07-22-2019, 08:31 AM
same shit argument that was going on in here internally two weeks ago. meh. if the nfl who would obviously want to look good, and turn every stone to get the truth, cant find shit, there may not be shit to find..

Frazod
07-22-2019, 08:32 AM
No sane person though that Hill would get a full season penalty or anything. Whether he is with you the first, whatever, 2, 4, 6 games or not, I at least expect to see you at the AFCCG again.

The real bottom line here is that Goodell and the NFL are nothing more than a keystone cop comedy routine when it comes to enforcing their conduct/personnel policy. It's not just Patriots fans lighting them up -- the entire national media seems to be pretty much on board with the complete lack of consistency.



Let me say this -- I would LOVE to see what this place would look like if Hill was a Patriots player and this exact sequence of events happened. You guys talk about the Patriots owning Goodell... :rolleyes:

You wearing your Aaron Hernandez jersey right now?

Chiefsguyinri
07-22-2019, 08:33 AM
Nope I remember Belcher, dude had issues. Patriots have had controversy with lots a false narratives written about them, where I'm sure Pat's fans have defended "innocence". But you can't change my mind, murderer & trafficer.

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 08:34 AM
Nope I remember Belcher, dude had issues. Patriots have had controversy with lots a false narratives written about them, where I'm sure Pat's fans have defended "innocence". But you can't change my mind, murderer & trafficer.


Right, and Aaron Hernandez didn't have issues?

Trafficker? You mean Kraft? For getting a handy at a massage parlor from some middle aged lady? :shrug: Ok, if you want to believe it, I can't stop you. Go for it.

Chiefsguyinri
07-22-2019, 08:35 AM
What if he was talking about money and custody of his kids?

trafficker.. context is everything. He couldve been saying that she needs to be terrified because he has money and resources to take custody. He probably also has information on her that hasn't been made public knowledge that he could use in court.

Flying High D
07-22-2019, 08:36 AM
Your morality seems....highly subjective. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that the Chiefs had a player who committed murder also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher


And you care about class but don't care about cheering for a player who is on tape saying, "you need to be terrified of me too bitch"?

Pillow talk and little sweet nothing in her ear before it gets real.

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 08:37 AM
You wearing your Aaron Hernandez jersey right now?


:LOL: You think that kind of remark annoys me?

Besides, the Patriots -- according to some here a classless organization -- offered to exchange Hernandez jerseys for another player. No sane person should've had a Hernandez jersey after that.

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 08:37 AM
trafficker.. context is everything. He couldve been saying that she needs to be terrified because he has money and resources to take custody. He probably also has information on her that hasn't been made public knowledge that he could use in court.


That must be good shit you hit. :D

rabblerouser
07-22-2019, 08:39 AM
Yea that moron thinks the NFL should have suspended Hill for what happened in 2014, 2 years before he was drafted. ****ing idiot.

Exactly.

ChiTown
07-22-2019, 08:40 AM
Your morality seems....highly subjective. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that the Chiefs had a player who committed murder also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher


And you care about class but don't care about cheering for a player who is on tape saying, "you need to be terrified of me too bitch"?

Yeah, well, I think we would be shocked to hear how pro athletes talk to their spouses if we were all privy to their secret recordings of their private convo's.

Marcellus
07-22-2019, 08:41 AM
trafficker.. context is everything. He couldve been saying that she needs to be terrified because he has money and resources to take custody. He probably also has information on her that hasn't been made public knowledge that he could use in court.

That's my point, Hill had the chance to clarify what he meant and supposedly had supporting documentation to back his claims. Text messages etc...


In a world where the NFL seems to always go to the extreme when punishing players it makes no sense they do nothing here unless they were presented with evidence of no actual wrongdoing. There is no plausible motivation to take it easy on Hill, that makes no sense.

Marcellus
07-22-2019, 08:42 AM
Yeah, well, I think we would be shocked to hear how pro athletes talk to their spouses if we were all privy to their secret recordings of their private convo's.


Was it Florio that tried to claim Hill calling her "bro" was derogatory?


I mean how ludicrous can you get?

mr. tegu
07-22-2019, 08:43 AM
What I find funny is for the most parts fans and media complained the suspensions from Goodell were overreach on his part. Now that he is correcting himself and foregoing suspensions people are complaining about that. Can’t have it both ways.

Mecca
07-22-2019, 08:43 AM
Yeah, well, I think we would be shocked to hear how pro athletes talk to their spouses if we were all privy to their secret recordings of their private convo's.

If we all got recorded and didn't know every single person alive would have audio making them looking terrible.

Marcellus
07-22-2019, 08:45 AM
What I find funny is for the most parts fans and media complained the suspensions from Goodell were overreach on his part. Now that he is correcting himself and foregoing suspensions people are complaining about that. Can’t have it both ways.

This is very true. Hunt shouldn't have gotten the suspension he did, it wasn't domestic violence and it was weak as shit to begin with.

rabblerouser
07-22-2019, 08:46 AM
Pillow talk and little sweet nothing in her ear before it gets real.

She SHOULD have been terrified of him.

Terrified he was going to dump her slutty, crazy ass, cut her and her family off, and turn her over to the NFL who doesn't play that shit and called in their buddies at the FBI.

Dumb bitch, indeed.

IowaHawkeyeChief
07-22-2019, 08:52 AM
trafficker.. context is everything. He couldve been saying that she needs to be terrified because he has money and resources to take custody. He probably also has information on her that hasn't been made public knowledge that he could use in court.

Preface the below with... I hate the Patriots.

However, the Kraft situation is similar to Tyreek's situation. The media blasted out that Kraft was getting sex at a Asian massage parlor that had Chinese immigrants that were being trafficked and not allowed to leave the premises.
The less sensational facts since is that there were no Chinese girls being trafficked or held against their will. However, the narrative in every other NFL city is that he had sex with trafficked captive chinese girls.

Does this sound familiar. The Tyreek situation should reinforce the need for us to be skeptical of click bait and do your own research before throwing out judgement. Particularly if the resulting fine or punishment doesn't seem correct.

Amnorix should do this for Hill, and you should do it for Kraft.

ChiTown
07-22-2019, 08:52 AM
If we all got recorded and didn't know every single person alive would have audio making them looking terrible.

Agreed. No person is immune to those moments.

Marcellus
07-22-2019, 08:53 AM
https://twitter.com/themikewelch/status/1152260661839142915?s=21

IowaHawkeyeChief
07-22-2019, 08:56 AM
Yeah, well, I think we would be shocked to hear how pro athletes talk to their spouses if we were all privy to their secret recordings of their private convo's.

Pro Athletes, anyone... I've been married 28 years and my wife and I have called each other names and made comments that were said in the heat of the moment and aren't reflective of who we are...

Frazod
07-22-2019, 08:56 AM
:LOL: You think that kind of remark annoys me?

Besides, the Patriots -- according to some here a classless organization -- offered to exchange Hernandez jerseys for another player. No sane person should've had a Hernandez jersey after that.

Like I give a fuck if it annoys you or any other Cheatriots troll.

notorious
07-22-2019, 09:03 AM
The NFL turned down a chance to get their dicks sucked by the media and the country yet willingly decided to take the heat and help the.....Chiefs?

ROFL

The simple answer is there is nothing there and the NFL was forced to do the right thing.

tatorhog
07-22-2019, 09:12 AM
You wearing your Aaron Hernandez jersey right now?

He's wearing his "I visited Jeff Epstein's sex island and only got this lousy T Shirt" shirt that is signed by Kraft.

Halfcan
07-22-2019, 09:17 AM
No sane person though that Hill would get a full season penalty or anything. Whether he is with you the first, whatever, 2, 4, 6 games or not, I at least expect to see you at the AFCCG again.

The real bottom line here is that Goodell and the NFL are nothing more than a keystone cop comedy routine when it comes to enforcing their conduct/personnel policy. It's not just Patriots fans lighting them up -- the entire national media seems to be pretty much on board with the complete lack of consistency.



Let me say this -- I would LOVE to see what this place would look like if Hill was a Patriots player and this exact sequence of events happened. You guys talk about the Patriots owning Goodell... :rolleyes:


We will be there, but I expect you guys to have a first-round loss. Luckily, the NFL has done you right again with the easiest schedule of the year. You have almost assured the playoffs with that weak ass division you play in without the season even starting. Cakewalk- every year. :rolleyes:

RealSNR
07-22-2019, 09:19 AM
:LOL: You think that kind of remark annoys me?

Besides, the Patriots -- according to some here a classless organization -- offered to exchange Hernandez jerseys for another player. No sane person should've had a Hernandez jersey after that.

That was very nice of the Patriots. Kraft must have been in a good mood after getting a blowie from a Chinese teenager after he paid the guy up front an extra $20.

RealSNR
07-22-2019, 09:27 AM
In the PFT comment sections to Florio's fury storm of articles he released last Friday, Patriot fans yet again found a way to make a situation ALL ABOUT THEM.

They were bitching that Josh Gordon wasn't with the team. "Hill can threaten women but Gordon can't smoke weed!!!!"

If Gordon could smoke weed do you think the Browns would have traded him to your miserable fucking team in the first place?

PunkinDrublic
07-22-2019, 10:14 AM
That was very nice of the Patriots. Kraft must have been in a good mood after getting a blowie from a Chinese teenager after he paid the guy up front an extra $20.

Is anybody surprised Kraft is a billionaire and still feels like he has to go to an Asian massage partner for a handy? The guy let Putin just walk away with one of his super bowl rings and did nothing about it that’s what Beta males do.

Hydrae
07-22-2019, 10:15 AM
The NFL turned down a chance to get their dicks sucked by the media and the country yet willingly decided to take the heat and help the.....Chiefs?

ROFL

The simple answer is there is nothing there and the NFL was forced to do the right thing.

This is the answer I have had to many who want to still come down on Tyreek. The NFL knew this would be the kind of response but did it anyway. They have way more information than the rest of us and had the chance to talk to Tyreek for 8 hours to get the full story.

I do wish part of the overall media reporting included little details like Crystal refusing to talk to the NFL about all of this. Maybe a few more people would stop and wonder why that would be and whether maybe this is not all on the male side of the situation as most people expect by default.

They also need to look further into 2014 and his recent denial that it occurred as reported then either. That really changes how anyone would look at the most recent issues. I have heard many talking heads bring that up. "Given the history that comment was really bad and should have resulted in a suspension by itself." But if you start to question 2014 that changes the narrative and lens the newer issues are seen through.

Rain Man
07-22-2019, 10:16 AM
I'm not worried about what Patriots fans think, because 95 percent of them will claim to be Chiefs fans within two years.

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 10:20 AM
We will be there, but I expect you guys to have a first-round loss. Luckily, the NFL has done you right again with the easiest schedule of the year. You have almost assured the playoffs with that weak ass division you play in without the season even starting. Cakewalk- every year. :rolleyes:


Not over the AFCCG yet I see. Consider therapy to help.

KCChiefsFan88
07-22-2019, 10:21 AM
You mean Kraft? For getting a handy at a massage parlor from some middle aged lady? :shrug: Ok, if you want to believe it, I can't stop you. Go for it.

Let's review the facts of this offseason...

Tyreek Hill= Not arrested/No criminal charges.

Robert Kraft= Arrested/Criminal charges filed.

Yet Faketriot fans are only focused on Tyreek Hill.

KCChiefsFan88
07-22-2019, 10:25 AM
the Kraft situation is similar to Tyreek's situation.

Except it is not.

Tyreek Hill= Not arrested/No criminal charges.

Robert Kraft= Arrested/Criminal charges filed.

Don't let facts interfere with your dumbshit "logic".

TambaBerry
07-22-2019, 10:35 AM
Your morality seems....highly subjective. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that the Chiefs had a player who committed murder also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher


And you care about class but don't care about cheering for a player who is on tape saying, "you need to be terrified of me too bitch"?

except for belcher snapped mentally and wasnt a giant piece of shit his entire life like your guy was. Next one please

ModSocks
07-22-2019, 10:36 AM
Don't curr.

I'm past giving a shit about the public outcry. That was last weekend. It's time for camp.

ThyKingdomCome15
07-22-2019, 10:38 AM
If I was a Pat's fan I'd be mad too. They cant cover him.

Halfcan
07-22-2019, 10:57 AM
Not over the AFCCG yet I see. Consider therapy to help.

A game in which the Pats got some very questionable calls to pull out a win.

Funny that you complain about NFL justice but are blind to your own team's rule-breaking and unethical behavior.

Year after year, the Pats have the easiest Division in football- easiest schedule, questionable moral behavior with an owner sex parlor scandal, multiple tainted wins by bending and breaking the rules- but then complain about a WR on another team?

:rolleyes:

notorious
07-22-2019, 10:59 AM
If I was a Pat's fan I'd be mad too. They cant cover him.

Uhhhhh.......

MahiMike
07-22-2019, 11:06 AM
Deflategate!

rabblerouser
07-22-2019, 11:09 AM
Uhhhhh.......

This time, they're going to have Hardman on the other side...

notorious
07-22-2019, 11:25 AM
This time, they're going to have Hardman on the other side...

I hope it helps. The Pats defense fisted our offense for over half the game.

jettio
07-22-2019, 11:29 AM
No sane person though that Hill would get a full season penalty or anything. Whether he is with you the first, whatever, 2, 4, 6 games or not, I at least expect to see you at the AFCCG again.

The real bottom line here is that Goodell and the NFL are nothing more than a keystone cop comedy routine when it comes to enforcing their conduct/personnel policy. It's not just Patriots fans lighting them up -- the entire national media seems to be pretty much on board with the complete lack of consistency.



Let me say this -- I would LOVE to see what this place would look like if Hill was a Patriots player and this exact sequence of events happened. You guys talk about the Patriots owning Goodell... :rolleyes:

I think the Patriots and the Dolphins would the the 2 leading contenders for the place Tyreek Hill wouild have played next, if he had done something warranting a suspension.

Frosty
07-22-2019, 11:30 AM
Your morality seems....highly subjective. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that the Chiefs had a player who committed murder also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher


And you care about class but don't care about cheering for a player who is on tape saying, "you need to be terrified of me too bitch"?

You bring up Belcher but seem to forget it happened under Pioli during our "Patriots Way" days. Pioli brought him in as soon as he got here from NE. It has nothing to do with the current administration.

Kiimo
07-22-2019, 11:30 AM
Dave Brown is actually a Giants fan and I spent an entire day arguing with his stupid ass and had to end up blocking him.

He will never ever listen to reason and is a gigantic troll. It's like arguing with TJ Carpenter, it's sad and not worth it.

ChiTown
07-22-2019, 11:34 AM
I hope it helps. The Pats defense fisted our offense for over half the game.

Our Offense came out really flat and stiff in that first half. We didn't handle or combat the Pats pressure very well at all. I think that was the worst game our OL played all year. With all due respect to the SB Champs, we looked extremely unprepared to play that game.

arrwheader
07-22-2019, 11:40 AM
Your morality seems....highly subjective. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that the Chiefs had a player who committed murder also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher


And you care about class but don't care about cheering for a player who is on tape saying, "you need to be terrified of me too bitch"?

No as a Chiefs and NFL fan I don't give a shit at all. Two reasons.

1. This is an for profit league that I pay to watch for entertainment. I don't give a shit what these guys do off the field what so ever and people need to start separating the two. Most of these guys could be a POS. The fact is majority of fans don't really know any of them, just because it's not public doesn't mean they aren't a POS.

2. It was a private converstaion/argument with his girl. A women, whom if you have actually done any research besides listening to the talking heads that be on this, you would find has a questionable character. I don't give a shit what it is I say, if it was blasted out (edited for effect) I would hate it and likely people would take it out of context. Think about it? Have you ever said something you regret? Something if it was recorded and played to the masses would make you look like a shitty person? This should be taken into consideration because the tape had been recorded as a potential blackmail piece to EXTORT him. She was goading him.

But no I don't give a shit about the type of person he is I just had the brains to sit back and watch things unfold and read into this objectively. I don't care. I cheer for the Chiefs. One day Hill will retire and I will still root for the Chiefs to WIN.

So take your Boston loving holier than thou bullshit back to fuckin bean town you butt fucking Tom Brady dick sucker and leave us here to root for our team.

rabblerouser
07-22-2019, 12:00 PM
No as a Chiefs and NFL fan I don't give a shit at all. Two reasons.

1. This is an for profit league that I pay to watch for entertainment. I don't give a shit what these guys do off the field what so ever and people need to start separating the two. Most of these guys could be a POS. The fact is majority of fans don't really know any of them, just because it's not public doesn't mean they aren't a POS.

2. It was a private converstaion/argument with his girl. A women, whom if you have actually done any research besides listening to the talking heads that be on this, you would find has a questionable character. I don't give a shit what it is I say, if it was blasted out (edited for effect) I would hate it and likely people would take it out of context. Think about it? Have you ever said something you regret? Something if it was recorded and played to the masses would make you look like a shitty person? This should be taken into consideration because the tape had been recorded as a potential blackmail piece to EXTORT him. She was goading him.

But no I don't give a shit about the type of person he is I just had the brains to sit back and watch things unfold and read into this objectively. I don't care. I cheer for the Chiefs. One day Hill will retire and I will still root for the Chiefs to WIN.

So take your Boston loving holier than thou bullshit back to ****in bean town you butt ****ing Tom Brady dick sucker and leave us here to root for our team.

This.

Tom Brady molests his kids to make kiddie porn then throws them off a cliff into the water. Fuck him.

Radar Chief
07-22-2019, 12:53 PM
Our Offense came out really flat and stiff in that first half. We didn't handle or combat the Pats pressure very well at all. I think that was the worst game our OL played all year. With all due respect to the SB Champs, we looked extremely unprepared to play that game.

Mahomes himself admitted that what they were doing with blitz and coverage schemes had him confused, but they made half time adjustments and ran up 31 points in the second half of both games against them.

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 01:19 PM
We will be there, but I expect you guys to have a first-round loss. Luckily, the NFL has done you right again with the easiest schedule of the year. You have almost assured the playoffs with that weak ass division you play in without the season even starting. Cakewalk- every year. :rolleyes:


JFC, the NFL schedule is locked in based on a pre-set formula. The NFL had ZERO ability to decide anything other than which week the games occurred on, NOT THE ACTUAL OPPONENTS. :rolleyes:

Hog's Gone Fishin
07-22-2019, 01:22 PM
JFC, the NFL schedule is locked in based on a pre-set formula. The NFL had ZERO ability to decide anything other than which week the games occurred on, NOT THE ACTUAL OPPONENTS. :rolleyes:

I think that's just what Robert Kraft tells the commission to tell people.:rolleyes:

Redbled
07-22-2019, 01:27 PM
Preface the below with... I hate the Patriots.

However, the Kraft situation is similar to Tyreek's situation. The media blasted out that Kraft was getting sex at a Asian massage parlor that had Chinese immigrants that were being trafficked and not allowed to leave the premises.
The less sensational facts since is that there were no Chinese girls being trafficked or held against their will. However, the narrative in every other NFL city is that he had sex with trafficked captive chinese girls.

Does this sound familiar. The Tyreek situation should reinforce the need for us to be skeptical of click bait and do your own research before throwing out judgement. Particularly if the resulting fine or punishment doesn't seem correct.

Amnorix should do this for Hill, and you should do it for Kraft.

Perfectly said.

Hog's Gone Fishin
07-22-2019, 01:27 PM
Your morality seems....highly subjective. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that the Chiefs had a player who committed murder also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Belcher


And you care about class but don't care about cheering for a player who is on tape saying, "you need to be terrified of me too bitch"?

You do realize that after that incident EVERY Chiefs fan demanded Belchers immediate release.

ModSocks
07-22-2019, 01:33 PM
You do realize that after that incident EVERY Chiefs fan demanded Belchers immediate release.

LMAO

CasselGotPeedOn
07-22-2019, 01:36 PM
95% of Patriot turds didn't even know where the team was located before Brady came around

T-post Tom
07-22-2019, 01:36 PM
With all the off-field issues of the Pats, some of their fans need some "whataboutism" to make them feel better about themselves and their fandom. I get that. But aside from that, not a **** given about what they think. GO CHIEFS!

Imon Yourside
07-22-2019, 01:43 PM
95% of Patriot turds didn't even know where the team was located before Brady came around

It was Steve Grogan and Doug Flutie fame and hey we lost to the 85' Bears in the BOWL baby!

NJChiefsFan
07-22-2019, 02:14 PM
Right, and Aaron Hernandez didn't have issues?

Trafficker? You mean Kraft? For getting a handy at a massage parlor from some middle aged lady? :shrug: Ok, if you want to believe it, I can't stop you. Go for it.

And here is the irony. You downplaying the media's story about a person in your organization as you look down at Chief fans for doing the same with their player.

If Edleman had this Tyreek stuff happen and the only evidence was him saying that on tape, in addition to the charges being dropped, you really would calling for his release? Or not root for him? Or what is it you want KC fans to do?

I'm not even trying to rag on you or Pats fans. Every fan base does this, including the Chiefs. It's funny seeing fans believe a story when it's against a player they don't support or expecting high morality, but when it's their own player or owner or whatever, that's when they actually dive into the details and are shocked when others don't do the same.

tatorhog
07-22-2019, 02:19 PM
It was Steve Grogan and Doug Flutie fame and hey we lost to the 85' Bears in the BOWL baby!

no love for Tony Eason? geez

Halfcan
07-22-2019, 02:29 PM
JFC, the NFL schedule is locked in based on a pre-set formula. The NFL had ZERO ability to decide anything other than which week the games occurred on, NOT THE ACTUAL OPPONENTS. :rolleyes:

There you go- you answered your own rant.

Makes a Big difference when and where those games are scheduled.

Example. Chiefs play Texans at home and 4 days later have to be in Denver to play a division opponent in the mountain air. Yep, a little tougher game based on the scheduling. :rolleyes:

You guys were having a very average year last season- then get to play the last two game at home against shit teams to get some starters rested.

But if you ask any Pats fans including you; you Always have the toughest Division; Always have the toughest schedule; Never get Any calls your way; have Never bent the rules; spied on other teams practices; cheated; deflated balls; done Anything unethical; and Never received 1 single break by the NFL or the refs EVER!!!!

It is no wonder why the rest of the NFL thinks you guys are whiney, entitled, arrogant, hypocrites.

KCChiefsFan88
07-22-2019, 03:11 PM
Faketriots fans should examine their own morally bankrupt franchise before talking about Tyreek Hill.

You drafted and employed a future serial killer... Aaron Hernandez.

Your Super Bowl MVP is a confirmed drug cheat... Julian Edelman.

The best player in your franchise's history runs a glorified steroid cartel with a known steroid cheat... Tom Brady.

Your owner was just arrested and charged with his involvement in a strip mall prostitution scandal... Robert Kraft.

And we won't even bring up Lisa Olson since 99.9% of current Faketriots "fans" weren't on the bandwagon during their franchise's embarrassing situation with her in 1990.

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 03:39 PM
Our Offense came out really flat and stiff in that first half. We didn't handle or combat the Pats pressure very well at all. I think that was the worst game our OL played all year. With all due respect to the SB Champs, we looked extremely unprepared to play that game.


IIRC, the Chiefs only had two halves all season where they didn't score a TD. Both was the first half of their two games against the Patriots.

Who also held the Rams -- the 3rd highest scoring team in the NFL -- to a single field goal in the SB.

Now, I'm not saying it MIGHT have something to do with the Patriots and their hall of fame acknowledged defensive mastermind coach, but...welll....maybe just a little bit that and not all "the Chiefs were flat".

Amnorix
07-22-2019, 03:41 PM
Faketriots fans should examine their own morally bankrupt franchise before talking about Tyreek Hill.

You drafted and employed a future serial killer... Aaron Hernandez.

Your Super Bowl MVP is a confirmed drug cheat... Julian Edelman.

The best player in your franchise's history runs a glorified steroid cartel with a known steroid cheat... Tom Brady.

Your owner was just arrested and charged with his involvement in a strip mall prostitution scandal... Robert Kraft.

And we won't even bring up Lisa Olson since 99.9% of current Faketriots "fans" weren't on the bandwagon during their franchise's embarrassing situation with her in 1990.


Kudos for knowing who Lisa Olson is, though why you're bringing up a 30 year old, three owners ago situation is a bit unclear.

As to the rest, it's mostly a crock of BS, but whatever makes you sleep better at night.

WhiteWhale
07-22-2019, 03:44 PM
I don't know who 'Dave Brown' or "Pat the Patriot" are, or why I should give a fuck about their salty little whiny opinions.

Imon Yourside
07-22-2019, 03:46 PM
Patriotards

ThyKingdomCome15
07-22-2019, 03:46 PM
Uhhhhh.......

They doubled him and he still caught a bomb. The real problem was we picked a bad game to start slow. Once started, team scored at will. Still hurts to be honest.

Defense not getting off the field is what killed us as much as anything. I mean our offense had a horrible first half but still scored 31 points against a very stout D. That's saying something.

Reerun_KC
07-22-2019, 04:14 PM
Who gives a f? It's twitter, which is full of douchebags and retards.

This.

Mahomes_Is_God
07-22-2019, 04:23 PM
I love that we have basically become the mortal enemy of the Patriots. They hate us and fear us because they know we're threatening to end their dynasty.

Kiimo
07-22-2019, 04:25 PM
I mean, I believe in this team but let's be real. Father Time is threatening to end their dynasty.

I believe Mahomes could have won that game last year but he didn't. Can't say we're past them until we're past them.

I do believe it will be this season though.

Also this Pats fan is pretty level-headed, we don't have to take out ALL our frustration with the fan base on him.

KCChiefsFan88
07-22-2019, 04:53 PM
As to the rest, it's mostly a crock of BS, but whatever makes you sleep better at night.

What is a “crock of BS” with the examples that I listed of the Faketriots being ethically and legally bankrupt?

Aaron Hernandez being a serial killer is a “crock of BS”?

Julian Edelman being caught as a drug cheat and suspended for four games last year is a “crock of BS”?

Tom Brady’s shady “TB12” personal trainer and his troubles with the FTC and the fact Julian Edelman credited Brady’s trainer with his injury recovery last year right before getting busted for PED’s is a “crock of BS”?

Robert Kraft getting arrested in a strip mall sex operation is a “crock of BS”?

Explain what isn’t true with what I listed.

Sweet Daddy Hate
07-22-2019, 07:30 PM
good. This pleases me greatly. Let them bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and lose and lose and lose and lose and lose and fuck them in the eyeball.

Iowanian
07-22-2019, 08:11 PM
Tom Brady open mouth kisses little boys.

Fornicate your grandmother, pats.

MMXcalibur
07-22-2019, 08:59 PM
Who gives a f? It's twitter, which is full of douchebags and retards.

Amen to this.

007
07-22-2019, 11:50 PM
Amnorix, I really don't get you at times. You are a great poster with good football knowledge. Generally a go with the flow guy. But the second anything anti patriots comes up you go into homer mode. Now thats fine on Patriotsplanet of course, but the constant white knighting you do for your team on an opposing teams message board, that isn't even in the same division? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

eDave
07-22-2019, 11:55 PM
They know their days are numbered. Everyone does.

Sweet Daddy Hate
07-23-2019, 07:21 AM
They know their days are numbered. Everyone does.

I'm going to tell you why they act the way they do, and what they're REALLY worried about, even if they won't admit it, or if it is simply subconscious to some of them:

What the trashy Pat fan fear's the most is the absolutely harrowing reality that there now exists not only a quarterback, but a well led team that could realistically obliterate the holy, vaunted Patriot record book.
There are as many super bowl rings and trophies available as Andy Reid wants to reach out and grasp in his rib loving fingers. Read is the offensive equivalent of bilichek in this league, and the Pats fans know it. When you add in a defensive coordinator ( who has been straight GRINDING compared to any DC that this franchise has had in forever ) with a proven track record of beating not only the Patriots, but the skill and talent necessary to go toe-to-toe with any team in the league, it becomes painfully obvious to Pat fan and the biased sports press on the coasts, that the Chiefs are gearing up for a VERY long run of dominance.

Granted, we have to go out there and prove it and we will. can you think of another quarterback and head coach tandem in this league who are as talented or THAT driven to succeed?

Yeah, me neither.

And the quarterback is just getting started!

AdolfOliverBush
07-23-2019, 09:58 AM
Ah, the Spoiled Child Syndrome. Rather than enjoy the historic run his favorite team has been on for years, he's whining like a little bitch because their time is almost over.

Don't worry Davy-poo, you can reminisce about the Belichick era forever, like Al Bundy and his four-touchdown game.

RunKC
07-24-2019, 10:07 PM
I’ve had my fill of these assholes. Seriously, I’ve reached a point of Patriots fatigue where I just want their fans to die in a fire.

Why did it have to be Alex Smith that had his leg snap in half? Why couldn’t it have been Brady?

007
07-25-2019, 02:04 AM
I’ve had my fill of these assholes. Seriously, I’ve reached a point of Patriots fatigue where I just want their fans to die in a fire.

Why did it have to be Alex Smith that had his leg snap in half? Why couldn’t it have been Brady?

Well, just remember, the last time Brady had a season ending injury they still went 11-5 with some jackass named Cassel.

BlackOp
07-25-2019, 03:17 AM
Father Time is threatening to end their dynasty.


Shit...the only thing threatening their "dynasty" is if the officials quit handing them games in the final quarter.

In 2017...the Texans game ends on a game winning TD, which on replay, hits the ground. Doesn't matter...replay booth upholds it. They legitimately lost that game if its called like everyone else. Terrific Tom gets another heroic comeback.

Steelers playoff game...Pittsburgh scores with 30 seconds left. The officials take the TD off which allows NE to advance to the AFCCG vs. the Jags. That was one of the worst hose-jobs I've seen in a big game...worse than even some Chiefs post-season calls...and that's saying something. I would have, legit, quit watching the NFL if that had been KC.

Jags AFCCG...Jacksonville is dominating them until some controversial PI calls allows "terrific" Tom to comeback, late. Had this been called like everyone else...Jaguars are in the SB.

Chiefs AFCCG....Edleman muffs the return. There is not enough clear evidence to overturn the call on the field and it takes them 5 minutes to manufacture a reason. It's supposed to be "overwhelming" for them to over-ride the call. **** it, maybe he touched it, maybe he didn't..let's just give it to NE. Of course, this is in the 4th quarter. At this time, no one knew KC would intercept Brady a few pays later. It was a momentum killer. Hogan lets a pass hit the ground and its called a catch...challenged, upheld...of course. Jones is called for a fake ruffing call...again, all in the 4th quarter. Ford called for a neutral zone...which they are supposed to alert the coach about before calling it. Whatever..

Their last two SB appearances have only occurred due to 4th quarter officiating. They lose THREE times without it. (Steelers, Jags, Chiefs).

Their fans just expect everything to work out for them...because it always does. ALWAYS. They are a fake dynasty...and nearly every post-season team could get to the SB if all 4th quarter calls benefited them.

BlackOp
07-25-2019, 03:40 AM
The Chiefs arent getting to the SB until the officiating starts to be, at least, neutral. Doesn't matter how great Mahomes is...they can simply wipe a late TD, allow a WR to push off on a final play (and later apologize for it)...or call zero penalties for the entire game.

NE will go every year if it stays the way it's been...

007
07-25-2019, 03:54 AM
The Chiefs arent getting to the SB until the officiating starts to be, at least, neutral. Doesn't matter how great Mahomes is...they can simply wipe a late TD...or call zero penalties for the entire game.

NE will go every year if it stays the way it's been...

I'm kind of wondering how many tyreek TDs will get get magically called back this year.

BlackOp
07-25-2019, 04:16 AM
I'm kind of wondering how many tyreek TDs will get get magically called back this year.

It depends...if the NFL wants KC in the SB, it will happen. They will just ignore/control pivotal calls to "allow" them to win. We've seen it with Brady, Manning,...Brees.

I always worry about teams getting a new stadium... they gave the Rams a SB appearance last year. Saints fans nearly set their city on fire and put up billboards...the SB had it's lowest rating in 10 years. Do they try to invent a Chargers SB this year...and give Rivers a legacy gift? 2019 is his last shot... They did that for HGH-Head, so who ****ing knows.

007
07-25-2019, 04:52 AM
It depends...if the NFL wants KC in the SB, it will happen. They will just ignore/control pivotal calls to "allow" them to win. We've seen it with Brady, Manning,...Brees.

I always worry about teams getting a new stadium... they gave the Rams a SB appearance last year. Saints fans nearly set their city on fire and put up billboards...the SB had it's lowest rating in 10 years. Do they try to invent a Chargers SB this year...and give Rivers a legacy gift? 2019 is his last shot... They did that for HGH-Head, so who ****ing knows.

Chargers can barely fill a soccer stadium.

BlackOp
07-25-2019, 05:06 AM
Chargers can barely fill a soccer stadium.

True...and I dont think the NFL owners are as adamant about the success of the Chargers as they are of the Rams. They kind of just got dumped on LA...

They are pulling the strings that they can...getting the national press to award them SB favorites.

It defies logic that they would be considered...given how they had their ass handed to them by the Patriots. Injuries had nothing to do with it...they were just out-coached. It didn't even give the refs a chance to rig it for the Patriots.

Chargers should legitimately be considered for wild card favorites...the press seems to think they are some powerhouse. They arent...it's manufactured. It's definitely weird...considering Mahomes is a far superior QB than Rivers...and Reid is in another class than Anthony Lynn.

River's best season was 32 TDs....PM threw 50 in his first year starting. Yeah...reality vs. media hype.

Sweet Daddy Hate
07-25-2019, 05:40 AM
I’ve had my fill of these assholes. Seriously, I’ve reached a point of Patriots fatigue where I just want their fans to die in a fire.

Why did it have to be Alex Smith that had his leg snap in half? Why couldn’t it have been Brady?

Or BOTH! A double whammy of fate filled deliciousness!

Sigh... What could have been...

rtmike
07-25-2019, 06:30 AM
So Mr. Amnorix.
Why have you not spoke about the similarities with the publics distain for Kraft and ‘Reek?
I think we’re all being a little hypocritical, lol?

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 07:13 AM
If I was a Pat's fan I'd be mad too. They cant cover him.


Not that anyone can really cover him, but that one catch for 42 yards in the AFCCG suggests the Patriots can do it as well as most anyone.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 07:18 AM
And here is the irony. You downplaying the media's story about a person in your organization as you look down at Chief fans for doing the same with their player.

If Edleman had this Tyreek stuff happen and the only evidence was him saying that on tape, in addition to the charges being dropped, you really would calling for his release? Or not root for him? Or what is it you want KC fans to do?

I'm not even trying to rag on you or Pats fans. Every fan base does this, including the Chiefs. It's funny seeing fans believe a story when it's against a player they don't support or expecting high morality, but when it's their own player or owner or whatever, that's when they actually dive into the details and are shocked when others don't do the same.


Actually, the only thing I'm saying is that the Commissioner's conduct policy is completely inconsistent and nonsensical. As I said before, I don't think what Hill did warrants suspension, but it's very hard to reconcile with other punishments Goodell has handed down, especially the long suspension he gave to Ezekiel Elliot.

All I really want is a better process from the NFL. One that isn't completely arbitrary and not subject to review by anyone else.

But the only way to get that, really, is for the NFLPA to get it through the new CBA. That will be difficult, to say the least.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 07:21 AM
no love for Tony Eason? geez


No Patriots fan has any love for Eason either.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 07:24 AM
There you go- you answered your own rant.

Makes a Big difference when and where those games are scheduled.

Example. Chiefs play Texans at home and 4 days later have to be in Denver to play a division opponent in the mountain air. Yep, a little tougher game based on the scheduling. :rolleyes:

You guys were having a very average year last season- then get to play the last two game at home against shit teams to get some starters rested.

But if you ask any Pats fans including you; you Always have the toughest Division; Always have the toughest schedule; Never get Any calls your way; have Never bent the rules; spied on other teams practices; cheated; deflated balls; done Anything unethical; and Never received 1 single break by the NFL or the refs EVER!!!!

It is no wonder why the rest of the NFL thinks you guys are whiney, entitled, arrogant, hypocrites.

Contary to the popular belief, the Patriots DON'T have is the WEAKEST division in the history of the universe, like some here claim. Did Peyton have any real competition in the AFC South all those years? How about the Packers in the consistently mediocre NFC North? Sure, other teams would sometimes have a good year or two, but then they'd flame out pretty fast.

If you look at the stats of AFC East teams versus teams in other divisions, you'll see a few things:

1. the record of the Patriots INSIDE AND OUTSIDE the division is about the same. In other words, they kick the AFC East's ass, but they also kick pretty much everyone else's ass also.

2. The record of the other AFC East teams versus the other divisions is not terrible.

But hey, stats don't matter to anti-Patriot haters. At least, if it doesn't fit the narrative they want to spin.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 07:31 AM
Stats (since the start of 2001):

vs AFC East: 86-24 (.782 win percentage)

vs. everyone else (134-44) (.753)

vs. teams that won their division that season: 24-14 (.632) (only team with a winning record in that stat)

vs teams that went to the playoffs that season: 60-33 (.645) (only team with a winning record in that stat; Steelers .480)

vs teams that finished with a winning record that season: 75-45 (.625) (only team with a winning record in that stat; Steelers .440)


Since 2003 the record inside/outside the division is even closer:

The Patriots are 71-19 since 2003 in the AFC East. That’s a .788 winning percentage. Outside the division, they are 118-32 (.786).

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 07:41 AM
Last one:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-d9u2XWsAAU9cP.jpg

Titty Meat
07-25-2019, 07:58 AM
Show them my thread

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=318181

notorious
07-25-2019, 09:22 AM
NE has reinvented itself so many times it's mind-boggling.

I just shrug my shoulders and know that they have been the best for a long time. Great head coach that constantly molds his team to what is needed. Great QB that is willing to kill his first born to achieve success. They get players that fit the mold.

The don't accept failure on any terms.


I have the utmost respect for the team, coach, and players for NE. They've earned it.

I don't really give a **** about the fans, because we are all pretty much the same no matter what team.

One thing I laugh at is the fan that pounds his chest like he's accomplished something because the team he cheers for wins a SB.

Halfcan
07-25-2019, 09:39 AM
Contary to the popular belief, the Patriots DON'T have is the WEAKEST division in the history of the universe, like some here claim. Did Peyton have any real competition in the AFC South all those years? How about the Packers in the consistently mediocre NFC North? Sure, other teams would sometimes have a good year or two, but then they'd flame out pretty fast.

If you look at the stats of AFC East teams versus teams in other divisions, you'll see a few things:

1. the record of the Patriots INSIDE AND OUTSIDE the division is about the same. In other words, they kick the AFC East's ass, but they also kick pretty much everyone else's ass also.

2. The record of the other AFC East teams versus the other divisions is not terrible.

But hey, stats don't matter to anti-Patriot haters. At least, if it doesn't fit the narrative they want to spin.

Post all the stats you want- but the fact is you get to play the Jets, Bills and Fins 6 times a year. An automatic Division title and home Playoff game. Heck of an advantage.

Like I said- according to you- the Pats have the toughest schedule, never got any breaks, toughest division, never did anything unethical. The Perfect Patriots are Perfect!!! :rolleyes:

Wouldn't an "anti" Patriot hater actually be a fan? So on this point, I will agree, Patriot fans spin stats to fit whatever narrative that makes their team look perfect. I think you got carried away there with your Patriot propaganda spamming.

arrwheader
07-25-2019, 10:08 AM
Last one:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-d9u2XWsAAU9cP.jpg

Your division is trash. Did you miss something? Did I miss something? Are we having this conversation in a reality you created to fit your narrative?

Back to the real world, your division is absolute garbage and has been for a looooong time. That's like bragging about beating up on retarded kids.

gtfo with this shit.

Halfcan
07-25-2019, 10:39 AM
Your division is trash. Did you miss something? Did I miss something? Are we having this conversation in a reality you created to fit your narrative?

Back to the real world, your division is absolute garbage and has been for a looooong time. That's like bragging about beating up on retarded kids.

gtfo with this shit.

According to Pats fans- they have the toughest division ever in the history of football and have memes to prove it. Every year they have the hardest schedule and have to climb Mt. Everest barefoot to win every game.

But the Pats are the bestest most perfect team ever!! Every 3 yard Brady checkdown is a perfect spiral and the best ever thrown. Best fans, even though they leave at half time if the Pats are not winning. Every player that has put on a Pats uniform is the best there ever was, even if they were injury prone half their career. Even their beer vendors get there 30 seconds faster than the rest of the NFL and the beer is 1.2 degrees colder - they have stats to prove it!! There is not one thing the Pats have done or will do that is not Perfect in every single way. Patriots and Perfect are synonyms.

jettio
07-25-2019, 11:17 AM
Actually, the only thing I'm saying is that the Commissioner's conduct policy is completely inconsistent and nonsensical. As I said before, I don't think what Hill did warrants suspension, but it's very hard to reconcile with other punishments Goodell has handed down, especially the long suspension he gave to Ezekiel Elliot.

All I really want is a better process from the NFL. One that isn't completely arbitrary and not subject to review by anyone else.

But the only way to get that, really, is for the NFLPA to get it through the new CBA. That will be difficult, to say the least.

The decision to not punish Tyreek is arguably the least arbitrary decision that was ever made by NFL since white NFL fandom overreaction to Pac Man Jones was mollified by giving Roger Goodell too much independent say in punishing players..

Tyreek sat down for 8 and 1/2 hours for what I think was a transcribed session. Methinks that the only reason the stuff is confidential is because it would humiliate the people that lined up to **** Tyreek into marrying into sharing 5 years 100 million as spouses when he saw the warning signs indicating that it would be better to not get married and co-parent and pay child support if the judge says so.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 03:00 PM
Post all the stats you want- but the fact is you get to play the Jets, Bills and Fins 6 times a year. An automatic Division title and home Playoff game. Heck of an advantage.

You think the Pats would've done much worse in the AFC South all those years when the Jags/Texans/Tits sucked? How 'about the NFC North with the Vikes/Lions/BEars?

Did the NFC West put up much resistance to the Niners when they were on top?


Like I said- according to you- the Pats have the toughest schedule, never got any breaks, toughest division, never did anything unethical. The Perfect Patriots are Perfect!!! :rolleyes:


Literally never said any of those things, but whatever floats your boat.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 03:01 PM
Your division is trash. Did you miss something? Did I miss something? Are we having this conversation in a reality you created to fit your narrative?

Back to the real world, your division is absolute garbage and has been for a looooong time. That's like bragging about beating up on retarded kids.

gtfo with this shit.


Patriots have drilled everyone, inside the AFCE or not. You can ignore all the evidence if you want, but it is what it is.

Frazod
07-25-2019, 03:08 PM
Patriots have drilled everyone, inside the AFCE or not. You can ignore all the evidence if you want, but it is what it is.

Yeah, basically getting five extra byes a year (Miami tends to play well at home) for over a decade never enters into it at all. Sorry, but that it is what it is too, douche.

Every year the division is gifted to the Cheatriots. No other team in the AFC East has been relevant forever. They draft poorly, trade poorly, are coached poorly, and for some reason never get any better. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 03:12 PM
Yeah, basically getting five extra byes a year (Miami tends to play well at home) for over a decade never enters into it at all. Sorry, but that it is what it is too, douche.

Right, because the Patriots would've STRUGGLED if they had, say, swapped with the Colts and had to deal with the Tits/Jags/Texans all those years. Oh wait, they've actually mopped the floor with them.

Just as they have the NFC North.

And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

:rolleyes:

Frazod
07-25-2019, 03:15 PM
Right, because the Patriots would've STRUGGLED if they had, say, swapped with the Colts and had to deal with the Tits/Jags/Texans all those years. Oh wait, they've actually mopped the floor with them.

Just as they have the NFC North.

And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because vs. Jets/@ Bills/vs. Colts is exactly the same thing as vs. Broncos/@ Chargers/vs. Colts.

:rolleyes: indeed

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 03:23 PM
Yeah, because vs. Jets/@ Bills/vs. Colts is exactly the same thing as vs. Broncos/@ Chargers/vs. Colts.

:rolleyes: indeed


What are you talking about? If the question is "has the AFC West been better than the AFC East for the last 20 years" then obviously the answer is yes. Not like that fact has robbed the Chiefs of any championships, but it's been a tougher road for you than for MOST teams in MOST divisions, because the AFC West has been one of hte better divisions over the last 20 years.

My point isn't AFCE > AFCW. It's that AFCE (other than Pats) isn't really any worse than AFCS (other than Peyton) or NFCN (other than Packers) over the last 20 years. Or NFCW (other than Seahawks) also, to be honest.

Painting the AFC East as the BY FAR worst division in the NFL over the last 20 years is just inaccurate.

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 03:39 PM
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Wallcrawler
07-25-2019, 03:48 PM
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Ha ha. Yeah, AFCE looking SUPER competitive!

Pats have a fuckin ticket punched to the playoffs as soon as season opens. As long as winning your division guarantees a spot, theyve got a red carpet.

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 03:50 PM
Painting the AFC East as the BY FAR worst division in the NFL over the last 20 years is just inaccurate.

Actually.... ROFLROFL

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 03:53 PM
Ha ha. Yeah, AFCE looking SUPER competitive!

Pats have a fuckin ticket punched to the playoffs as soon as season opens. As long as winning your division guarantees a spot, theyve got a red carpet.


You're surprised the most dominant dynasty in NFL history has won its division every year during its run, except when Brady was injured?

You know the Niners won 11 out of 13 right?

Oh, let me help you with the Steelers in the 70s:

1972 Steelers
1973 Bengals
1974 Steelers
1975 Steelers
1976 Steelers
1977 Steelers
1978 Steelers
1979 Steelers


Dynasties start by winning their division all the damn time. It's kinda step one...

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 03:56 PM
You're surprised the most dominant dynasty in NFL history has won its division every year during its run, except when Brady was injured?

You know the Niners won 11 out of 13 right?

Oh, let me help you with the Steelers in the 70s:

1972 Steelers
1973 Bengals
1974 Steelers
1975 Steelers
1976 Steelers
1977 Steelers
1978 Steelers
1979 Steelers


Dynasties start by winning their division all the damn time. It's kinda step one...
Talk about moving the goalpost, you keep touting the last 20 years, not you want to talk about football in a different era?

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 03:59 PM
Talk about moving the goalpost, you keep touting the last 20 years, not you want to talk about football in a different era?


I'm pointing out that dynastic teams dominate their division for very long periods of time. Showing that the Patriots have dominated the AFC East doesn't prove that the AFC East (outside of the Patriots) have sucked for the last 20 years.

Yes, the Patriots have dominated the AFCE. They've also dominated just about every other division in football during that same timeframe.

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 04:00 PM
<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1564092033"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/679cth/team_division_records_since_2002_realignment/">Team &amp; Division Records Since 2002 Re-Alignment</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl">r/nfl</a></blockquote>
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SAUTO
07-25-2019, 04:01 PM
<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1564090767"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/ab7jlv/2018_update_division_winners_since_realignment/">2018 Update: Division Winners since Realignment</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl">r/nfl</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//embed.redditmedia.com/widgets/platform.js" charset="UTF-8"></script> posting the winning percentage of the teams in the division would be a better way to show how good a division is IMO.

Of course the best team in football wins their division (I'm still betting it's the worst or close to it but there's no defense to that)

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 04:01 PM
I'm pointing out that dynastic teams dominate their division for very long periods of time. Showing that the Patriots have dominated the AFC East doesn't prove that the AFC East (outside of the Patriots) have sucked for the last 20 years.

Yes, the Patriots have dominated the AFCE. They've also dominated just about every other division in football during that same timeframe.

Actually....ROFLROFL

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 04:02 PM
The AFC East does have the best overall record, however they are also propped up significantly by the Patriots. The other 3 teams in the division rank 19th, 22nd, and 26th in overall record. For reference, the divisions in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th place each have 3 teams with a better overall record than the AFC East's second best team, the NY Jets

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 04:10 PM
The AFC East does have the best overall record, however they are also propped up significantly by the Patriots. The other 3 teams in the division rank 19th, 22nd, and 26th in overall record. For reference, the divisions in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th place each have 3 teams with a better overall record than the AFC East's second best team, the NY Jets


Not sure what you're looking at, but -- if you're including the losses to the Patriots, you're punishing the other three teams for being in the same division as the Patriots and having to play them twice. Essentially giving those three teams a combined 5-6 losses PER YEAR for all of the years covered.

So this stat is weird, but useful. It's the record of each division since 2000 against ALL OTHER divisions, but EXCLUDING whatever team won the division that year (so, exclude the Patriots themselves most years, as well as whichever team won the various other divisions in any given year).


But again, this isn't fair to the AFC East. What happens when we remove every season's division winners from each division?



Division W - L - T Win Percentage

AFC East 395 - 469 - 0 .457
NFC East 390 - 472 - 2 .451
NFC South 394 - 501 - 2 .439
AFC North 368 - 493 - 4 .425
AFC South 365 - 499 - 0 .422
AFC West 363 - 501 - 0 .420
NFC North 361 - 502 - 2 .417
NFC West 347 - 515 - 4 .401



It looks like -- between the Patriots EQUAL domination inside and outside the AFCE, and the AFCE's (other than Pats) not-bad showing against other divisions (outside of their division's champ that year), that the AFC East doesn't suck as horrifically as Patriots haters suggest.

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 04:15 PM
Not sure what you're looking at, but -- if you're including the losses to the Patriots, you're punishing the other three teams for being in the same division as the Patriots and having to play them twice. Essentially giving those three teams a combined 5-6 losses PER YEAR for all of the years covered.

So this stat is weird, but useful. It's the record of each division since 2000 against ALL OTHER divisions, but EXCLUDING whatever team won the division that year (so, exclude the Patriots themselves most years, as well as whichever team won the various other divisions in any given year).


But again, this isn't fair to the AFC East. What happens when we remove every season's division winners from each division?



Division W - L - T Win Percentage

AFC East 395 - 469 - 0 .457
NFC East 390 - 472 - 2 .451
NFC South 394 - 501 - 2 .439
AFC North 368 - 493 - 4 .425
AFC South 365 - 499 - 0 .422
AFC West 363 - 501 - 0 .420
NFC North 361 - 502 - 2 .417
NFC West 347 - 515 - 4 .401



It looks like -- between the Patriots EQUAL domination inside and outside the AFCE, and the AFCE's (other than Pats) not-bad showing against other divisions (outside of their division's champ that year), that the AFC East doesn't suck as horrifically as Patriots haters suggest.

Is this guy for real? He talks about how the divisions matter then when you show him he decides to take out the winners? That was the freaking point.
ROFLROFLROFL

Chief Pagan
07-25-2019, 04:18 PM
And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

:rolleyes:

I’m pretty sure my 49ers coworkers got sick of me talking about what an advantage SF had that they played in a weak ass division that let them not only coast to home field advantage but they could also rest their starters in the fourth quarter.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 04:19 PM
Is this guy for real? He talks about how the divisions matter then when you show him he decides to take out the winners? That was the freaking point.
ROFLROFLROFL


You don't seem to understand what I'm posting at all.

How would YOU compare the non-Patriot AFC East's strength over the last 20 years? You can't just compare how the divisions in total have done against each other -- the AFC East looks GREAT, but it's skewed by teh Patriots themselves winning at such a high percentage.

So you can look at how the AFC East has done (excluding Pats) against the other divisions, but that isn't really fair either. You're top-weighting the other division by including their champ team.

If you're trying to determine how difficult the Patriots road to the division crown was, compared to the road other division winners had, doesn't it make sense to look at how the non-division winners have done against teams OUTSIDE their own division?

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 04:25 PM
You don't seem to understand what I'm posting at all.

How would YOU compare the non-Patriot AFC East's strength over the last 20 years? You can't just compare how the divisions in total have done against each other -- the AFC East looks GREAT, but it's skewed by teh Patriots themselves winning at such a high percentage.

So you can look at how the AFC East has done (excluding Pats) against the other divisions, but that isn't really fair either. You're top-weighting the other division by including their champ team.

If you're trying to determine how difficult the Patriots road to the division crown was, compared to the road other division winners had, doesn't it make sense to look at how the non-division winners have done against teams OUTSIDE their own division?

You were the one defending your division, not really understanding how bad it is.
THEN you lose that argument and decide to remove division winners altogether and compare the divisions.
We might as well pretend NE is in the AFC W and get rid of the Raiders, you really think you win all those division titles?
Your division is KEY to NE and their success... period, end of discussion.
By your reasoning look at YOUR divisions record against other divisions not the other divisions against eachother.

BlackOp
07-25-2019, 04:28 PM
I cant imagine rooting for a team where in the post-season...you never even think of the refs screwing you out of a win. Their worst case scenario is an evenly called contest.

I cant imagine having zero penalties in their biggest game of the regular season...when there is evidence some were committed.

It really never crosses Patriot fans mind...that they could possibly lose because of the officials.

Its the #1 thing I worry about when the Chiefs play in important games...."how bad are they going to get ****ed ...and do they have a big enough lead to beat the calls".

Chiefs could have been to multiple SB if the refs decided to take game winning TDs off the board...or call bogus PI at critical junctures...or rule incomplete passes as legit.

NE is a good team...but their "dynasty" is heavily aided by beneficial calls.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 04:34 PM
You were the one defending your division, not really understanding how bad it is. THEN you lose that argument and decide to remove division winners altogether and compare the divisions.

WTF are you talking about?

We might as well pretend NE is in the AFC W and get rid of the Raiders, you really think you win all those division titles?

In other words, if you turn the AFC West into the by-far best division in the NFL by adding to the Patriots to it, do the Pats win all those division championships? No. Do they win most of them? Yes. Will they lose some of the bye years? Yes.

But it's a ridiculous hypothetical. If we put the Niners into the NFC East years ago and removed the weakest link -- the Eagles -- does that affect anything? Well, duh, yes.

A more realistic change is to swap the Pats (AFCE) and Colts (AFCS). Does much change? Nope.

Pats for Pack (NFCN). Much change? Nope.

YOUR argument is that the AFC East has offered no competition for the Patriots. Putting the Patriots into a division that had NO very weak teams doesn't make much sense. No team in the NFL has had to deal with that.

Your division is KEY to NE and their success... period, end of discussion. By your reasoning look at YOUR divisions record against other divisions not the other divisions against eachother.

Does that final sentence say what you want it to? I did look at the AFC East against other divisions. That's what I posted.

BlackOp
07-25-2019, 04:40 PM
Amnorix...give one example of the Patriots/Brady losing on bogus officiating...just one besides the 2015 Doink game...where it was Manning's retirement season.

You cant...and you know it. Definitely never in the post-season.

I can list 5 in that past 2 years for the Chiefs...including 3 play-off loses...one of which forced the official to retire.

KCTitus
07-25-2019, 04:40 PM
...It really never crosses Patriot fans mind...that they could possibly lose because of the officials...

Ironically, the last time they lost on a late penalty was during the referee strike and a Brady TD pass was overturned by offensive PI...I think it was on Gronk. Those referees had no agenda or allegiance to NE or the NFL. I loved every minute of the replacement referees.

KC came back from a 3 score deficit to win a game that required 3 calls to be reviewed and overturned against NO...I dont think that's ever happened before or since the regular refs have been in place.

I'm hoping KC starts getting a few calls and I'll have the sack to acknowledge it and agree unlike patriot fans.

Lprechaun
07-25-2019, 04:48 PM
Its like talking to a brick wall.
My good friend as a NE fan is the same way....
but when I asked him how much a fan he was before Kraft bought them he said he wasnt really in to football.
Let em have their rings, once the "dynasty" is over they will scatter like cockroaches and we wont see their fans visiting other teams forums.
Northeast mentality

Sorce
07-25-2019, 04:51 PM
Can we stop with the great defensive plan by the pats nonsense. They got away with defensive holding on our receivers the entire first half.

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SAUTO
07-25-2019, 04:53 PM
Can we stop with the great defensive plan by the pats nonsense. They got away with defensive holding on our receivers the entire first half.

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Honestly that was a great game plan. It worked

underEJ
07-25-2019, 04:53 PM
Right, because the Patriots would've STRUGGLED if they had, say, swapped with the Colts and had to deal with the Tits/Jags/Texans all those years. Oh wait, they've actually mopped the floor with them.

Just as they have the NFC North.

And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

:rolleyes:

Actually that was the dominant argument, that indeed the 49ers waltzed into the playoffs every year.

Sorce
07-25-2019, 04:56 PM
Honestly that was a great game plan. It workedTouche

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Amnorix
07-25-2019, 05:06 PM
Amnorix...give one example of the Patriots/Brady losing on bogus officiating...just one besides the 2015 Doink game...where it was Manning's retirement season.

Losing? The Patriots don't lose much. There have been plenty of non-calls. Gronk interfered with in the end zone by Kuechly on the last play of a game. Play blown dead due to phantom stepping out of bounds whistle. The Philly special was an illegal formation -- player on end of the line was off the ball, which you can't do. On the Hail Mary vs the Eagles, Amendola gets literally blown up 30 yards downfield, and Gronk gets blown up as the ball is coming down. No call.

You cant...and you know it. Definitely never in the post-season.

I can, if I have to, but I don't, because whining about refs is for fucking losers.

And you think the NFL is fixed anyway, so why do you even care?


I can list 5 in that past 2 years for the Chiefs...including 3 play-off loses...one of which forced the official to retire.

:rolleyes: See comment above.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 05:09 PM
Its like talking to a brick wall.
My good friend as a NE fan is the same way....
but when I asked him how much a fan he was before Kraft bought them he said he wasnt really in to football.
Let em have their rings, once the "dynasty" is over they will scatter like cockroaches and we wont see their fans visiting other teams forums.
Northeast mentality


I've watched every Patriots game (with a few exceptions when I lived out of state and they were not available in the pre-internet age -- and excluding when the game wasn't even on local TV due to failure to sell out the stadium, since about 1981 or so.

You can mock anyone else you want for being a "pink hat" (Red Sox reference really), but I'm glad to chat Rod Rust and Ray Berry and Dick MacPherson, Lisa Olson, Viktor Kiam, Parcells, Eason, Irving Fryar's finger, on and on and on and on.

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 05:10 PM
ROFL Forgot how blatant it was. Go to the 38 second mark.

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Amnorix
07-25-2019, 05:12 PM
Keep in mind, I dont' actually care about these calls/non-calls. At the time i do, but the refs are doing their best, and many things are missed. They're human.

And the last play, hail mary, is subject to different rules really, and that's understood.

But BlackOps said I could not show any ref screwing the Pats like ever. JFC...

New World Order
07-25-2019, 05:27 PM
For not caring about calls/non-calls you do have a good recollection of every little thing that went wrong against your team.

Tribal Warfare
07-25-2019, 05:35 PM
Can we stop with the great defensive plan by the pats nonsense. They got away with defensive holding on our receivers the entire first half.

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They were playing as if it was circa 1992-95, KC offense adjusted in the 2nd half

Amnorix
07-25-2019, 05:35 PM
For not caring about calls/non-calls you do have a good recollection of every little thing that went wrong against your team.


I didn't remember any other than the Gronk one against Denver. Had to look up the rest. :D I just don't tend to dwell on this stuff, especially when you've had the run teh Patriots have had. At this point, no Patriots fan should waste effort dwelling on lost years/opportunities. If that's where you're focus is, you're missing the forest for the trees.

Frazod
07-25-2019, 05:46 PM
Keep in mind, I dont' actually care about these calls/non-calls. At the time i do, but the refs are doing their best, and many things are missed. They're human.

And the last play, hail mary, is subject to different rules really, and that's understood.

But BlackOps said I could not show any ref screwing the Pats like ever. JFC...

So you don't mind the occasional non call that goes against you? Gee, that must be tough when you've hitched your little red wagon to a truck hauling six Lombardis.

How do you do it? :rolleyes:

PHOG
07-25-2019, 05:53 PM
That's pretty rich in the OP coming from holier than thou Pats fans AND owners.

Kiimo
07-25-2019, 05:53 PM
I can, if I have to, but I don't, because whining about refs is for ****ing losers.



I can't argue with you there


See comment above.


But I can argue with you here. I'm not a "refs" guy just like in basketball I'm not a "calls" guy but this right here


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Wow. <a href="https://twitter.com/superdj56?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SuperDJ56</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLPlayoffs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLPlayoffs</a> <a href="https://t.co/0ZaiAJnstn">pic.twitter.com/0ZaiAJnstn</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/949775660817371136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Watch this horseshit and find the nonsense reason that they get to keep the ball. The ref was forced to retire after this. It's still nauseating.

KCChiefsFan88
07-25-2019, 06:01 PM
Faketriots bandwagoner fraud Assnorix will no longer show his face here when Brady retires and the Jarrett Stidham/Brian Hoyer era begins.

rabblerouser
07-25-2019, 08:19 PM
I cant imagine rooting for a team where in the post-season...you never even think of the refs screwing you out of a win. Their worst case scenario is an evenly called contest.

I cant imagine having zero penalties in their biggest game of the regular season...when there is evidence some were committed.

It really never crosses Patriot fans mind...that they could possibly lose because of the officials.

Its the #1 thing I worry about when the Chiefs play in important games...."how bad are they going to get ****ed ...and do they have a big enough lead to beat the calls".

Chiefs could have been to multiple SB if the refs decided to take game winning TDs off the board...or call bogus PI at critical junctures...or rule incomplete passes as legit.

NE is a good team...but their "dynasty" is heavily aided by beneficial calls.

We got fucked in the Rams game, the home game vs the Chargers, @Pats and the AFCCG.

We kinda got fucked @Seattle, but we kind of got beat there too - Wilson was dropping DIMES.

Would've been 15-1 if the officials didn't screw us OVER and OVER.

Been that way since the 1997 playoffs...

PunkinDrublic
07-25-2019, 08:50 PM
Ask any professional athlete, they’ll tell you that Boston fans are the most racist fans in professional sports.

New World Order
07-25-2019, 09:22 PM
I can't argue with you there



But I can argue with you here. I'm not a "refs" guy just like in basketball I'm not a "calls" guy but this right here


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Wow. <a href="https://twitter.com/superdj56?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SuperDJ56</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLPlayoffs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLPlayoffs</a> <a href="https://t.co/0ZaiAJnstn">pic.twitter.com/0ZaiAJnstn</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/949775660817371136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Watch this horseshit and find the nonsense reason that they get to keep the ball. The ref was forced to retire after this. It's still nauseating.

There is not a call in the history of the NFL that is worse than that.

Sweet Daddy Hate
07-25-2019, 10:35 PM
I hate this pillowbitergety argument. Can we just get on with the season and destroy these fools so we can put this stupid shit to rest once and for all? From where I sit we've got about seven to eight rings to collect so let's get to it and forget about these northeastern fuck monkeys once and for all please.

007
07-25-2019, 10:35 PM
There is not a call in the history of the NFL that is worse than that.

cracks me up that there are actually youtube videos supporting the referees call there. Its indefensible.

BlackOp
07-26-2019, 01:30 AM
Check this shit out...start at 7:37.

What's interesting is the Titans got screwed on a bizarre officiating sequence too...alone, it wouldn't be a major issue but in conjunction with an officiating gaffe that essentially cost KC to advance...you start to see a pattern.



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Mahomes_Is_God
07-26-2019, 02:24 AM
Fact of the matter is, the Patriots are far a head of everybody else on the mental level. Another fact of the matter is, is that our offence is so ****ing badass that their brains ultimately mean jack-****ing shit. They won the AFCCG because of Dee Ford and a ****ing coin flip. Luck will be their ultimate downfall. Brady is 42, and a coin flip is 50/50. Mahomes is a Chief!

I should add that I expect no less than back-to-back Super Bowl wins from this Chiefs team. We literally have Aaron Rodgers on meth (but even better), combined with potentially the best recieving corps the world has ever seen, guided by arguably the greatest offensive mind of all time, Andy Reid. We're about to become legends, and that's no hot take. It's stating the obvious.

TwistedChief
07-26-2019, 03:14 AM
cracks me up that there are actually youtube videos supporting the referees call there. Its indefensible.

Each time that I prepare myself to watch that clip, there's a part of me that hopes I'll see something new that will make it seem like it wasn't the worst fucking call in the history of the NFL. And yet each time, I'm genuinely left speechless. Jaw agape. Wondering how that was possibly the call on the field.

007
07-26-2019, 03:38 AM
Each time that I prepare myself to watch that clip, there's a part of me that hopes I'll see something new that will make it seem like it wasn't the worst fucking call in the history of the NFL. And yet each time, I'm genuinely left speechless. Jaw agape. Wondering how that was possibly the call on the field.

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Coochie liquor
07-26-2019, 04:25 PM
Pats fans are a different breed...

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rabblerouser
07-26-2019, 06:14 PM
Pats fans are a different breed...

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Wow, that's Amnorix.