Spags deserves some praise today

[RunKC]

Defense struggled in the first 2 drives and we shut them out the rest of the game. Excellent adjustments were made by that staff today.

That’s what I want to see from this defense!

[staylor26]

Nope he sucks because the defense hasn’t gone from worst to first yet.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

They still need to trade for a corner, but yes I like the improvement from game 1 to game 2.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

The anti-Sutton.

Adjustments, you say?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

We can win the SB with today’s defense.

[TLO]

They did just fine.

[Sassy Squatch]

Should never come out that flat to start a game, but kudos for the adjustments.

[New World Order]

We would have given up 21+ in the second half if Bob was in control

[petegz28]

10 points....STFU with any complaints

[T-post Tom]

Nice overall effort. LBs need to improve. Will be interesting to see how Claiborne assimilates into the secondary.

[In58men]

2 turnovers and we didn’t score on any of them.

We gotta get better at that for sure.

[PHOG]

Nice showing, after the adjustments.

[2bikemike]

Yes he does, I was having my doubts there at the beginning!

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

We are the #2 ranked defense this week in fantasy

[Three7s]

We are the #2 ranked defense this week in fantasy
Behind only the Patriots, who had a freebie against the Fins.

[GermanChiefFan]

Ward had a really nice Game today. If he can Continue to Play like that we will be Fine. Still a good idea to bring in another Corner though

[jjchieffan]

2 turnovers and we didn’t score on any of them.

We gotta get better at that for sure.

I think that if we needed to score we would have. Andy just wasn't trying in the second half.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

There was plenty of confusion and miscommunication by the D on the first drive. It did get cleaned up the next three quarters. Looked good overall.

[HemiEd]

I think that if we needed to score we would have. Andy just wasn't trying in the second half.

The point was made about how good of buddies Andy and Gruden are. Gruden kind of gave up also once he knew the inevitable outcome.

We have seen lots of coaches that would have used their timeouts etc.

[DRM08]

The point was made about how good of buddies Andy and Gruden are. Gruden kind of gave up also once he knew the inevitable outcome.

We have seen lots of coaches that would have used their timeouts etc.

Chucky must be ready to dump Carr for a draft pick. Problem is he ain't gonna find another Mahomes for the next 10 years in the draft.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Not bad. Carr shit his pants good after the first...

[Monty]

10 points. What else is there to say?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

10 points. What else is there to say?

Clark fucking sucks

[Chiefs=Champions]

Sutton would go whole games without proper adjustments. It only took Spags a few drives - pretty happy with that. Always a tough place to play and the Raiders were fired up early. It happens. We are the bench mark, and teams are going to bring their A game against us.

[Monty]

Clark fucking sucks

It’s week 2

[farmerchief]

Sutton would go whole games without proper adjustments. It only took Spags a few drives - pretty happy with that. Always a tough place to play and the Raiders were fired up early. It happens. We are the bench mark, and teams are going to bring their A game against us.yep, nice to see a D coordinator who makes adjustments!

[mlyonsd]

I was surprised carr didn't attempt to push the ball down the field more. Especially in the 2nd half. Was it the coverage?

[PunkinDrublic]

Still got a ways to go but I think all we asked for was some gradual improvement from week to week. They took a big step this week.

[oldman]

who had a freebie against the Fins.

The Cheatriots have 6 freebies every year.

[petegz28]

I was surprised carr didn't attempt to push the ball down the field more. Especially in the 2nd half. Was it the coverage?And pressure

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[Gravedigger]

Let’s be honest those two drive killing interceptions were more on the Raiders being the Raiders rather than the Chiefs defense being ballhawks.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Let’s be honest those two drive killing interceptions were more on the Raiders being the Raiders rather than the Chiefs defense being ballhawks.

That play by Breeland was text book. You can't put that on the Raiders. Perfect jam.

[Easy 6]

He took their big emotional end of an era sendoff and turned it into 10 points with this still wet behind the ears group.

He turned Sacksquatch Jones loose, he got Gilligan off the island yeeeah

Still wanting another corner, but we certainly got a good look at this groups potential today... they had to hold it down for a bit while Pat figured it all out

[Red Dawg]

A shit ton of praise.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Here’s my POV.

Defense is showing progress. Fantastic. Keep it rolling.

But DO NOT settle. Still go get your CB, whoever that may be. Leave no doubt.

[Titty Meat]

Will be interesting to see how they do next week. Jackson is on fire right now

[Hammock Parties]

You'll still find idiots here bitching.

In this modern day NFL where total shits can complete 65% holding anyone to 10 points is an excellent day.

This defense is much improved.

[Chief Northman]

They looked somewhat soft early, but the front was playing straight up and the coverages were vanilla. As mentioned in other threads, Spags made adjustments and It is refreshing to see the coverage being multiple. Some of the pass rush concepts were interesting too, with the odd overload combined with rolling coverage - this clearly confused Carr. This is an encouraging development: A defensive play caller that understands how an offense is attacking him, and he counters with changing a lot of pre/post snap looks to affect the offense’s decision making.

[jjchieffan]

I think that next week will surprise a lot of people. The defense is going to shut down Lamar Jackson and we will celebrate another 2 TD+ margin of victory next week.

[staylor26]

Let’s be honest those two drive killing interceptions were more on the Raiders being the Raiders rather than the Chiefs defense being ballhawks.

Lol. Just can’t win with some people.

[ThaVirus]

I still don't think this is, or will be, a very good defense, but they did a good job of settling down and letting Carr be Carr.

I'd like to see the DBs work on defending the deep ball. Brady and Rivers are just going to be chucking the ball up and letting our guys shit their pants.

[petegz28]

36 points allowed in 2 games. 7 if not 14 arguably are garbage time points. Even at face value that's 18 points a game.

No one should ever bitch about 18 points a game average. Especially with our offense.

[Bob Dole]

Will be interesting to see how they do next week. Jackson is on fire right now

Pretty sure I had to listen to 20 talking heads last week telling me Carr was on fire, too.

[chiefzilla1501]

Hard to imagine Reid can get any hungrier (haha) but he seems like a different coach too.

This is usually a game where we slam the brakes in the 4th quarter, especially with Mahomes' ankle. We didn't. Last week, Reid seemed like he wanted Mahomes to obliterate Ramsey late in the game. Maybe part of it is more trust in Spags. Definitely more trust in Mahomes. Maybe part of him is still pissed off about New England last year. In any event, I hope we never let up. This is good Andy.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Clark and Jones are beasts. Breeland looked good. Ward did pretty good. Fuller had a good day.

Defense is still gelling. Miscues were evident early. They really cleaned it up though. Good game.

[Coochie liquor]

We can win the SB with today’s defense.

I’m happy we won, and Fuck the Faders in general. But let’s be honest. The defense we played today against a bunch of nobodies likely gets shredded by the Pats. Luckily we have some time to gel. But most playoff teams aren’t gonna have the lackluster offensive weapons the Fade have.

[GloryDayz]

The D ended well today. Made wonderful adjustments.

[FloridaMan88]

Defense played well today but even Sutton’s defenses owned Carrtastrophe.

[O.city]

The defense plays aggressive and flys to the ball and is getting better

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Currently we are the 10th best defense in points allowed. 11th in rushing and 21st in passing. 19th in total yards

[Titty Meat]

The defense plays aggressive and flys to the ball and is getting better

Noticed Niemann was in there alot more today....

[Mama Hip Rockets]

We can win the SB with today’s defense.

Now, if we can just figure out how to get the Raiders to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

[FAX]

Saw the first glimmer of some serious stunt and twist work by the d-line today. My guess is that they decided to amp up that strategy to combat the quick throw offense.

Once we get the technique, timing, and communication down on those, we're going to be just fine.

FAX

[Easy 6]

Currently we are the 10th best defense in points allowed. 11th in rushing and 21st in passing. 19th in total yards

I call that being ahead of schedule

[stumppy]

Noticed Niemann was in there alot more today....

And seemed like he made the most of it.

[KCUnited]

Run D still sucks so playing with the lead is imperative. Next week could be a good indicator of where they're at. 10 points on the road gets a cap tip for sure though.

[Danguardace]

Run D still sucks so playing with the lead is imperative. Next week could be a good indicator of where they're at. 10 points on the road gets a cap tip for sure though.

Run D was a bit feast or famine wouldn't say it flat out sucked

(14:55 - 1st) J.Jacobs right guard to OAK 32 for 7 yards (C.Ward; D.Wilson).
(12:43 - 1st) J.Jacobs up the middle to KC 25 for -1 yards (A.Okafor). PENALTY on KC-C.Jones, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at KC 24 - No Play.
(12:19 - 1st) J.Jacobs left guard to KC 11 for 8 yards (X.Williams).
(11:41 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Jacobs left tackle to KC 10 for 1 yard (A.Hitchens).
(11:03 - 1st) B.Parker reported in as eligible. J.Jacobs right guard to KC 10 for no gain (C.Jones).
(7:19 - 1st) J.Jacobs left end pushed ob at OAK 30 for 4 yards (A.Hitchens).
(1:51 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Washington left guard to OAK 42 for 2 yards (F.Clark; C.Jones).
(14:48 - 2nd) J.Jacobs right tackle to OAK 37 for 12 yards (K.Fuller; A.Hitchens).
(13:42 - 2nd) J.Jacobs left guard to OAK 41 for -1 yards (T.Kpassagnon).
(0:03 - 2nd) J.Richard right end to OAK 13 for no gain (C.Jones, B.Niemann).
(11:43 - 3rd) J.Jacobs right tackle to KC 30 for 51 yards (C.Ward).
(11:06 - 3rd) J.Jacobs up the middle to KC 27 for 3 yards (D.Nnadi, D.Wilson).
(9:09 - 3rd) J.Jacobs right guard to KC 4 for 6 yards (J.Thornhill, C.Jones).
(4:46 - 3rd) J.Jacobs right tackle to OAK 29 for 8 yards (A.Hitchens).
(4:18 - 3rd) D.Washington up the middle to OAK 33 for 4 yards (X.Williams).
(3:01 - 3rd) D.Washington left tackle to OAK 47 for 3 yards (X.Williams).
(13:59 - 4th) J.Jacobs left end to OAK 22 for no gain (B.Breeland).
(8:26 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Richard up the middle to KC 45 for 3 yards (E.Ogbah).

[Chris Meck]

After two weeks, it appears that we'll see a little more scheme from that side of the ball each week. It makes sense.

[lawrenceRaider]

Gruden's game plan was terrible as was his play calling.

Chiefs D still sucks.

[GloryDayz]

It is very nice to see us at 19, that's wonderful.

Sunday will be interesting (to say the least), at the up-to-the-seconds rankings (http://www.nfl.com/stats/team) we'll be going up against the #1 offense and #2 defense. But the Ravens having played Miami and Arizona for their first two games, Miami being a bye-week where you're awarded a win, might say as much about their standings as anything else! Let's pray playing at home proves to be the magic we need to beat them solidly.

[wazu]

Gruden's game plan was terrible as was his play calling.

Chiefs D still sucks.

Only nine more years to go.

[Chris Meck]

Currently we are the 10th best defense in points allowed. 11th in rushing and 21st in passing. 19th in total yards

If we end the season with those rankings, we might go undeafeated. Seriously.

I don't think we will; middle of the pack to 20-ish is more likely. We haven't played any of the top offenses yet.

[KCUnited]

Run D was a bit feast or famine wouldn't say it flat out sucked

(14:55 - 1st) J.Jacobs right guard to OAK 32 for 7 yards (C.Ward; D.Wilson).
(12:43 - 1st) J.Jacobs up the middle to KC 25 for -1 yards (A.Okafor). PENALTY on KC-C.Jones, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at KC 24 - No Play.
(12:19 - 1st) J.Jacobs left guard to KC 11 for 8 yards (X.Williams).
(11:41 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Jacobs left tackle to KC 10 for 1 yard (A.Hitchens).
(11:03 - 1st) B.Parker reported in as eligible. J.Jacobs right guard to KC 10 for no gain (C.Jones).
(7:19 - 1st) J.Jacobs left end pushed ob at OAK 30 for 4 yards (A.Hitchens).
(1:51 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Washington left guard to OAK 42 for 2 yards (F.Clark; C.Jones).
(14:48 - 2nd) J.Jacobs right tackle to OAK 37 for 12 yards (K.Fuller; A.Hitchens).
(13:42 - 2nd) J.Jacobs left guard to OAK 41 for -1 yards (T.Kpassagnon).
(0:03 - 2nd) J.Richard right end to OAK 13 for no gain (C.Jones, B.Niemann).
(11:43 - 3rd) J.Jacobs right tackle to KC 30 for 51 yards (C.Ward).
(11:06 - 3rd) J.Jacobs up the middle to KC 27 for 3 yards (D.Nnadi, D.Wilson).
(9:09 - 3rd) J.Jacobs right guard to KC 4 for 6 yards (J.Thornhill, C.Jones).
(4:46 - 3rd) J.Jacobs right tackle to OAK 29 for 8 yards (A.Hitchens).
(4:18 - 3rd) D.Washington up the middle to OAK 33 for 4 yards (X.Williams).
(3:01 - 3rd) D.Washington left tackle to OAK 47 for 3 yards (X.Williams).
(13:59 - 4th) J.Jacobs left end to OAK 22 for no gain (B.Breeland).
(8:26 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Richard up the middle to KC 45 for 3 yards (E.Ogbah).
I'm mostly looking at the run D from their league worst yards per attempt metric. Fortunately our offense is forcing teams to play from behind so it isn't as concerning. I also understand that yards per attempt doesn't tell the whole story as it can be easier to break off longer runs against pass personnel. Either way, it doesn't seem too concerning given our offense in today's game and I do think the defense as a whole is better than last season just from an aggressiveness and in-game adjustment standpoint. I'm anxious to see how they do next week as I imagine Baltimore will employ a similar offensive game plan as they did in our last meeting.

[scho63]

Not according to all the crybabies in the first 12 minutes of the game.

[duncan_idaho]

I grade the run D entirely on its ability to make stops and keep teams from just gashing the Chiefs 5 yards at a time for long, methodical drives that kill the clock and keep the Chiefs O off the field.

So far, they’ve passed the test each time. As long as they can get stops when the game is close, I’m good with the D.

The Raiders has some success early thanks to the passing game. The adjustments the Chiefs made limited that success. So nice to see in-game changes that work rather than rubbing the same scheme the whole game and expecting success.

[WhiteWhale]

Good point.

The Raiders offense is awesome and Sutton always struggled with them.

Ah, shit. Neither of those things are true.

I covered this last week. It's going to take more than beating up on Bob Sutton's punching bag to show me this D has progressed. I expect even a bottom 10 defense to clown on this club.

Next week at home, against Baltimore, is going to teach us a lot more about what we've got.

[staylor26]

Good point.

The Raiders offense is awesome and Sutton always struggled with them.

Ah, shit. Neither of those things are true.

I covered this last week. It's going to take more than beating up on Bob Sutton's punching bag to show me this D has progressed. I expect even a bottom 10 defense to clown on this club.

Next week at home, against Baltimore, is going to teach us a lot more about what we've got.

They just put up 24 pts last week on a good Broncos defense. And they put up 33 last year on us in Oakland.

Not saying we don’t need to prove it against better offenses, but those are the facts.

[Danguardace]

They just put up 24 pts last week on a good Broncos defense. And they put up 33 last year on us in Oakland.

Not saying we don’t need to prove it against better offenses, but those are the facts.

In previous seasons regardless of opponent if the offense got shut out in the second half on the road you know the opponent would have got some points on the board vs Sutton, leading to a nervous finish. I liked that they finished the game out which hopefully shows a change in culture.

[WhiteWhale]

They just put up 24 pts last week on a good Broncos defense. And they put up 33 last year on us in Oakland.

Not saying we don’t need to prove it against better offenses, but those are the facts.

I'm a little more optimistic, but not convinced. I am happy they didn't let Oakland have any garbage time points. I really think KC's 2nd quarter offensive explosion totally demoralized them.

Which is GOING to happen and a reason KC doens't need an ELITE defense to improve to championship level. They just need hold on until KC's offense breaks their opponents' will.

It was nice to see them NOT fall into that 'oh here we go again' mentality after the 1st quarter.

[Chris Meck]

I'm a little more optimistic, but not convinced. I am happy they didn't let Oakland have any garbage time points. I really think KC's 2nd quarter offensive explosion totally demoralized them.

Which is GOING to happen and a reason KC doens't need an ELITE defense to improve to championship level. They just need hold on until KC's offense breaks their opponents' will.

It was nice to see them NOT fall into that 'oh here we go again' mentality after the 1st quarter.

well, I mean, it's two games. I don't think anyone should be 'convinced' of anything at all in the entire league based on two games.

I think it would appear that they're trending upwards. I'm optimistic they'll continue to get better.

[jaa1025]

His defense is going to take time to reach their potential. His superbowl year that shut down brady, his defense sucked at the beginning of the year until the players learned the scheme then it became deadly. I anticipate it will steadily improve throughout the season to finish like a top 10 defense.

[WhiteWhale]

well, I mean, it's two games. I don't think anyone should be 'convinced' of anything at all in the entire league based on two games.

I think it would appear that they're trending upwards. I'm optimistic they'll continue to get better.

I haven't seen any quit in 'em yet, and that was arguably their BIGGEST problem over the past 2-3 years.

When things went bad, they just fell apart. They couldn't rally after a bad start. They usually STARTED strong and slowly unraveled. If they started bad, you KNEW you were in for a bad day.

That's as much about on field leadership as coaching, which is why I think the 'leadership transplant' might have been even more important than the coaching changes (both HAD to happen)