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Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:04 AM
Look at how things are going right now...

Highest paid....Russell Wilson
MVP....Patrick Mahomes
Number one draft pick...Kyler Murray
Leading Heisman candidate....Jalen Hurts

That ability to escape the pocket, extend plays, plant that...run? pass?...seed, is where things are heading. No backer ever has to worry about Eli, Rivers, Brady, Dalton, running the football. That can't be said about those mentioned above.

Lamar Jackson is what we see at Arizona(faster than Jackson), Oklahoma, Ohio State, and all over college/HS football nowadays, that mobile QB, a guy who can scoot 30 yards, extend plays.

The first black QB's were Willie Thrower, Marlon "Magician" Briscoe, James Harris, "Jefferson Street" Joe Gillum. (can't really count Fritz Pollard) but none of them made any impact.

It started with Doug Williams, Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham, they proved that yes blacks can play NFL QB.

My Top 10

1.Warren Moon....Oilers/Washington
2.Russell Wilson.....Seahawks/Wisconsin
3.Patrick Mahomes....Chiefs/Texas Tech
4.Donovan McNabb....Eagles/Syracuse
5.Steve McNair.....Titans/Alcorn
6.Randall Cunningham....Eagles/UNLV
7.Dak Prescott....Cowboys/Miss State
8.Cam Newton....Panthers/Auburn
9.Michael Vick...Falcons/Virginia Tech
10.Doug Williams...Buc's/Grambling

Today there are more black starting QB's than ever before.

Can't ignore....

DeShaun Watson
Kordell Steward
Daunte Culpepper
Jeff Blake
Rodney Peete
Vince Young
Colin Kaepernick
Lamar Jackson
Jacoby Bissett
Teddy Bridgewater
Tyrod Taylor
Andre Ware
Vince Evans
Akili Smith
Geno Smith

carcosa
09-16-2019, 12:06 AM
fantasry

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:15 AM
fantasry

translation

Hey Ubeja is it true that Randall Cunninghams daughter is one of the best high jumpers in the world and his older brother was a stud RB for the Pats?

~~~~~
Yep, on both.

Sam "Bam" Cunningham might be the Pats all time leading rusher actually.

kysirsoze
09-16-2019, 12:16 AM
fantasry

LMAO I don't even know the story behind this, but I love it.


Also, this thread is just super cringy after the Thursday night black QB to white RB thread.

kysirsoze
09-16-2019, 12:17 AM
translation

Hey Ubeja is it true that Randall Cunninghams daughter is one of the best high jumpers in the world and his older brother was a stud RB for the Pats?

~~~~~
Yep, on both.

Sam "Bam" Cunningham might be the Pats all time leading rusher actually.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0048dac3d7359592eabe636933028f7d/tenor.gif?itemid=11786403

Dante84
09-16-2019, 12:17 AM
.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:19 AM
Example...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dM230gdq3A

Bump
09-16-2019, 12:21 AM
Teddy Bridgewater even played today!

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:23 AM
I figure if this is cool here....

Mahomes 13 inch cock rep thread!,,,,
Let you sticky ropes of rep fly!


....then anything goes.

Imon Yourside
09-16-2019, 12:24 AM
Sooner or later we'll be begging for Deberg threads.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:28 AM
Sooner or later we'll be begging for Deberg threads.

Dude, you playing thread critc...

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=319060

....why?

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:36 AM
So it's.....don't talk fullbacks, black QB's, Christian McCaffrey, Murray vs Minshew, we want more cock/poop talk.

Really?

Imon Yourside
09-16-2019, 12:36 AM
Dude, you playing thread critc...

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=319060

....why?

How many topics have i posted in the lounge?

New World Order
09-16-2019, 12:38 AM
Don't forget the Choco Peni

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:41 AM
How many topics have i posted in the lounge?

Doesn't matter where.

You have at least a dozen....0....reply threads, another dozen at 1/2, so you might wanna cool playing critic, ok?

Rasputin
09-16-2019, 12:43 AM
He's a Black Bob mult.

Mahomes_Is_God
09-16-2019, 12:44 AM
I'll take Pat an Russ over anybody. Also I don't know what we're talking about. But Pat 'n Russ.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:48 AM
He's a Black Bob mult.

Dude, do you really think Black Bob could do this....

Black QB 100m

lane

1.Marlon "Magician" Briscoe
2.Michael Vick
3.Freddie Solomon
4.Denard Robinson
5.Kyler Murray
6.RGIII
7.Adnan Randle-El
8.Lamar Jackson

Imon Yourside
09-16-2019, 12:50 AM
Doesn't matter where.

You have at least a dozen....0....reply threads, another dozen at 1/2, so you might wanna cool playing critic, ok?

Sweet a dozen in 18 years, call in the mods man! Oh and BTW cluttering up the main board IS an issue. No one cares about DC unless real blood is shed.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:50 AM
I'll take Pat an Russ over anybody. Also I don't know what we're talking about. But Pat 'n Russ.

Too complex for ya slick?

We can't have Wilson/Mahomes over Warren "Hall of Fame" Moon, his stats totally dwarf what they have done.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:53 AM
Sweet a dozen in 18 years, call in the mods man! Oh and BTW cluttering up the main board IS an issue. No one cares about DC unless real blood is shed.

I hate to break it to ya like this but I only went back a few pages to find all that...0..1/2...stuff.

So it's ok to clutter the board with talk of Mahomes cock but not black QB's, really?

Imon Yourside
09-16-2019, 12:56 AM
I hate to break it to ya like this but I only went back a few pages to find all that...0..1/2...stuff.

So it's ok to clutter the board with talk of Mahomes cock but not black QB's, really?

LMAO

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:58 AM
LMAO

Dude, when you were new here back in 2011, you had 7 threads that got 0/1 replies, so lets cool the playing a critic bit ok slugger?

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:59 AM
So far all you critics pretty much suck at this.

Where is any depth of knowledge at around here?

RealSNR
09-16-2019, 01:08 AM
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Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 01:14 AM
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Paul Hornung who was a star at ND back in the day was asked about the problems there with the football team, his reply (best I can remember)....

They need more speed, more black athletes, they must lower the...

OUCH~~~~~

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 02:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj69aIc0chQ

Houston could win the AFC South
Dallas win the NFL East
KC win the AFC West
Seattle win the NFL West
Baltimore the AFC North

Hmmm?

ShowtimeSBMVP
09-16-2019, 03:45 AM
I guess we will leave out Patrick mom is white and Kyler mom is Korean .

tyreekthefreak
09-16-2019, 04:39 AM
So, what is the point of this thread?

Mile High Mania
09-16-2019, 05:07 AM
So, what is the point of this thread?


https://media1.tenor.com/images/2c7a23c0a343c8a0c45e9a45905b2c11/tenor.gif?itemid=9637810

Jewish Rabbi
09-16-2019, 05:08 AM
Mods, can you please take care of this fucking guy already?

Three7s
09-16-2019, 05:14 AM
Where are the mods? This guy's thread starting privileges should've been revoked a long time ago.

POND_OF_RED
09-16-2019, 06:01 AM
Too complex for ya slick?

We can't have Wilson/Mahomes over Warren "Hall of Fame" Moon, his stats totally dwarf what they have done.

Warren Moon never even had one season with a triple digit QB rating. I’m not sure you know how stats work.

threebag
09-16-2019, 06:13 AM
https://baybrotha.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/minister-louis-farrakhan.gif

lewdog
09-16-2019, 06:24 AM
False prophets.

UChieffyBugger
09-16-2019, 06:25 AM
In fairness to the thread starter, if folks studied the history of black qb's and the systematic prejudice they have faced then it is heartening to see that walls have been broken down and now black qb's are more visible/successful today than ever before.

Mile High Mania
09-16-2019, 06:28 AM
In fairness to the thread starter, if folks studied the history of black qb's and the systematic prejudice they have faced then it is heartening to see that walls have been broken down and now black qb's are more visible/successful today than ever before.

Well, anyone that has followed the game for the last 30+ years should understand that... we're long past the days of some spare reporter asking Doug Williams how long he's been a black QB.

The reactions in the thread are based upon the fact that the thread starter has a higher than normal douche count.

Hammock Parties
09-16-2019, 06:32 AM
hay guys all black QBs are fast and all white QBs are slow!!!

ignore that steve young guy, that jeff garcia guy, josh allen, fran tarkenton, andrew luck, oh and alex fucking smith!!!!

...and definitely ignore byron leftwich, warren moon, daunte culpepper and all those other slow sons of bitches!!!

Easy 6
09-16-2019, 06:34 AM
I tried politely telling this joker several days ago that he should tone down his style, he wouldn’t listen and now look at him... the whole board can’t stand his ass

UChieffyBugger
09-16-2019, 06:39 AM
Well, anyone that has followed the game for the last 30+ years should understand that... we're long past the days of some spare reporter asking Doug Williams how long he's been a black QB.

The reactions in the thread are based upon the fact that the thread starter has a higher than normal douche count.

The crazy thing is some of the prejudice beliefs still lingers on today as we saw with the whole "Lamar Jackson should play WR" stuff that came out during the combine.

scho63
09-16-2019, 06:39 AM
Ubeja: You Be Ja Asshole with all these racist and stupid threads.

I'm not sure what your goal is here but it is NOT being a long standing member of CP.

Prison Bitch
09-16-2019, 06:57 AM
Mahomes is half black

tyreekthefreak
09-16-2019, 07:06 AM
The crazy thing is some of the prejudice beliefs still lingers on today as we saw with the whole "Lamar Jackson should play WR" stuff that came out during the combine.

I think that was due to his accuracy, or lack thereof.

WhiteWhale
09-16-2019, 07:33 AM
hay guys all black QBs are fast and all white QBs are slow!!!

ignore that steve young guy, that jeff garcia guy, josh allen, fran tarkenton, andrew luck, oh and alex ****ing smith!!!!

...and definitely ignore byron leftwich, warren moon, daunte culpepper and all those other slow sons of bitches!!!

Ah, you saw it too huh?

burt
09-16-2019, 08:15 AM
Ubeja: You Be Ja Asshole with all these racist and stupid threads.

I'm not sure what your goal is here but it is NOT being a long standing member of CP.

There does seem to be a trend....

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-16-2019, 08:21 AM
So, what is the point of this thread?

To drive home the stupidity of the poster who created it.


As if we needed more evidence or convincing.

BigCatDaddy
09-16-2019, 08:31 AM
Stick Bobs ass back in the RR.

carcosa
09-16-2019, 08:42 AM
Is this the real life? Is this just fantasry?

Skyy God
09-16-2019, 09:12 AM
Can we Romper Jimmy the Greek yet?

threebag
09-16-2019, 09:20 AM
In fairness to the thread starter, if folks studied the history of black qb's and the systematic prejudice they have faced then it is heartening to see that walls have been broken down and now black qb's are more visible/successful today than ever before.

If it was a thread it wouldn’t be so racist, but it’s looking to be the body of work

bdj23
09-16-2019, 09:31 AM
If it was a thread it wouldn’t be so racist, but it’s looking to be the body of work

Bugger is a Britbong who loves to tell Americans they are racist. Pay him no regard.

Lzen
09-16-2019, 09:36 AM
You seem to be obsessed with race. Get some help, bud.

Oh and just FYI, Mahomes is also half white.

BlackHelicopters
09-16-2019, 09:38 AM
Nuke it from orbit.

Rasputin
09-16-2019, 09:44 AM
Can this thread and Black Bob mult be Rompered yet?

carcosa
09-16-2019, 09:45 AM
Can we Romper Jimmy the Greek yet?

I'm waiting for him to break out the skull calipers and go full phrenologist

RockChalk
09-16-2019, 09:51 AM
Hi Cooper

threebag
09-16-2019, 09:54 AM
This isn’t Coop

RockChalk
09-16-2019, 09:55 AM
This isn’t Coop

Did the mods determine that?

threebag
09-16-2019, 09:59 AM
I am sure the same flakes that reported Coop have reported Ubeja

UChieffyBugger
09-16-2019, 10:14 AM
Bugger is a Britbong who loves to tell Americans they are racist. Pay him no regard.

"YEAAHHHH!!..WE DON'T WANT NO OUTSIDERS COMING ON OUR FORUMS TELLING US NOT TO BE RACIST"!!..

https://www.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/MAC43_ANGRYWHITEMEN01.jpg

ROFL

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:20 AM
I guess we will leave out Patrick mom is white and Kyler mom is Korean .

Mahomes and Murray are black

Mahomes, 23, became the second African-American quarterback to win the NFL's MVP award outright.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:21 AM
So, what is the point of this thread?

Talking black QB's.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:23 AM
Warren Moon never even had one season with a triple digit QB rating. I’m not sure you know how stats work.

Warren Moon is in the Hall of Fame so stats don't matter.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:26 AM
Ubeja: You Be Ja Asshole with all these racist and stupid threads.

I'm not sure what your goal is here but it is NOT being a long standing member of CP.

Google....The Black QB.

Racist? Stupid?

You have any idea at all how many times this has been talked about?

My goal is to talk football, what is the problem?

This is racist, stupid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX2rKgcMeAs

scho63
09-16-2019, 10:28 AM
Can we Romper Jimmy the Greek yet?

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Best retort in ages!!!

scho63
09-16-2019, 10:30 AM
In fairness to the thread starter, if folks studied the history of black qb's and the systematic prejudice they have faced then it is heartening to see that walls have been broken down and now black qb's are more visible/successful today than ever before.

Are you joining hands with him as he jumps off the cliff? :spock:

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:30 AM
To drive home the stupidity of the poster who created it.


As if we needed more evidence or convincing.

Dude, where is the stupid at?

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:38 AM
You seem to be obsessed with race. Get some help, bud.

Oh and just FYI, Mahomes is also half white.

There is no such thing as half white.

Just proud of my race and what we have had to overcome to get to where we are today.

bdj23
09-16-2019, 10:49 AM
"YEAAHHHH!!..WE DON'T WANT NO OUTSIDERS COMING ON OUR FORUMS TELLING US NOT TO BE RACIST"!!..

https://www.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/MAC43_ANGRYWHITEMEN01.jpg

ROFL

Pompous arrogance from a brit? No, never!

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:50 AM
Pompous arrogance from a brit? No, never!

A black talking about black QB's is racist?

bdj23
09-16-2019, 10:53 AM
A black talking about black QB's is racist?

Are you a schizophrenic? I'm talking about a completely different person than you.

carcosa
09-16-2019, 10:56 AM
A black talking about black QB's is racist?

"A black"

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:57 AM
Are you a schizophrenic? I'm talking about a completely different person than you.

Why talk racist at all?

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 10:58 AM
"A black"
Did you really say....

Chiefs 70
Ravens 0

Perineum Ripper
09-16-2019, 10:59 AM
There is no such thing as half white.

Just proud of my race and what we have had to overcome to get to where we are today.

I have a dog and a car that would disagree with your no such thing as half white

stevieray
09-16-2019, 11:00 AM
There is no such thing as half white.


This should be good.,..

:popcorn:

carcosa
09-16-2019, 11:00 AM
Did you really say....

Chiefs 70
Ravens 0

fantasry

bdj23
09-16-2019, 11:00 AM
Why talk racist at all?

I never said anything in this thread is racist, I simply pointed out that a particular poster is a Brit who absolutely loves to call Americans racist at every opportunity and his posts should be ignored.

Brits have a major inferiority complex with Americans on the internet.

Perineum Ripper
09-16-2019, 11:00 AM
Also if we are just talking humans as being half of a color, my wife completely disagrees with you. She is half white and is very proud of both sides of her heritage

Perineum Ripper
09-16-2019, 11:02 AM
This should be good.,..

:popcorn:

What does your wife think about that statement? Shit, anyone else in your family if we want to get a larger polling.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:03 AM
This should be good.,..

:popcorn:

Stold this...


Calling Myself ‘Half White, Half Black’ Is a Lie – There’s No Such Thing in the US

UChieffyBugger
09-16-2019, 11:04 AM
Pompous arrogance from a brit? No, never!

LOL WEAK!!!! :)

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:04 AM
Also if we are just talking humans as being half of a color, my wife completely disagrees with you. She is half white and is very proud of both sides of her heritage

So what race is she?

UChieffyBugger
09-16-2019, 11:06 AM
I never said anything in this thread is racist, I simply pointed out that a particular poster is a Brit who absolutely loves to call Americans racist at every opportunity and his posts should be ignored.

Brits have a major inferiority complex with Americans on the internet.

This poster is a deluded clown who appears to be obsessed with monitoring my posts and guessing where I'm from as IF his lame ass knows me!!...I do find it hilarious that I have a fanboy though tbh LMAO

stevieray
09-16-2019, 11:07 AM
Also if we are just talking humans as being half of a color, my wife completely disagrees with you. She is half white and is very proud of both sides of her heritage

^

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:11 AM
This poster is a deluded clown who appears to be obsessed with monitoring my posts and guessing where I'm from as his lame ass knows me!!...I do find it hilarious that I have a fanboy though tbh LMAO

It works like this....

Ubeja.....the Niners win the NFC.
poster.....dude, all your threads suck.

So I check out that posters history and always find plenty of failed threads, always. So why is this poster playing thread critic?

Be cool and it will be cool, act like a jerk and I'll treat ya like one.

Perineum Ripper
09-16-2019, 11:12 AM
So what race is she?

Well if we are going to break it down to the 4 basic races, she is Caucasian and Mongolian.

If you want me to break it down further I can, but simply put. She is half white and half brown.

Setsuna
09-16-2019, 11:13 AM
Welp I'm putting this person on ignore

Skyy God
09-16-2019, 11:13 AM
I bet OP masterbates to the Mandingo fighting scene in Django.

UChieffyBugger
09-16-2019, 11:14 AM
It works like this....

Ubeja.....the Niners win the NFC.
poster.....dude, all your threads suck.

So I check out that posters history and always find plenty of failed threads, always. So why is this poster playing thread critic?

Be cool and it will be cool, act like a jerk and I'll treat ya like one.

Ignore him!!..certain folks love to start arguments in order to get you banned or your threads locked. Ignore the haters and just try to stay within the rules of the forum and you should be fine.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:17 AM
Well if we are going to break it down to the 4 basic races, she is Caucasian and Mongolian.

If you want me to break it down further I can, but simply put. She is half white and half brown.

You only have 4 choices you know this.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:19 AM
Welp I'm putting this person on ignore

It must be hard living like that.

Perineum Ripper
09-16-2019, 11:19 AM
Did you not see the part where I wrote the 2 down that she is, out of the 4.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:21 AM
Ignore him!!..certain folks love to start arguments in order to get you banned or your threads locked. Ignore the haters and just try to stay within the rules of the forum and you should be fine.

I have been playing by the rules.

I read about.....jump in and start posting....so I did. Then read.....what's with all this posting.....huh?

I talk football, not cocks, poop.

Weird place.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:24 AM
I bet OP masterbates to the Mandingo fighting scene in Django.

I have never masterbated, yuck, nasty.

Easy 6
09-16-2019, 11:25 AM
This isn’t Coop

I agree, it isn’t... but KC Tattoo may be on the right track, it very well could be Bob

There are some eerie similarities there...

stevieray
09-16-2019, 11:26 AM
Stold this...


Calling Myself ‘Half White, Half Black’ Is a Lie – There’s No Such Thing in the US

still waiting....

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:27 AM
The Lounge

This forum is fast and furious with all variety of topics being discussed. Newbies welcomed. No lurking allowed. If you enjoy reading, don't be shy - please jump in and post.

Did I misunderstand that?

Variety of subjects...check
I don't lurk...check
I jumped in and started posting....check


Hmmm?

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:32 AM
I agree, it isn’t... but KC Tattoo may be on the right track, it very well could be Bob

There are some eerie similarities there...

What is all this about? Why do I need to be somebody else, talk about strange.

bdj23
09-16-2019, 11:34 AM
This poster is a deluded clown who appears to be obsessed with monitoring my posts and guessing where I'm from as IF his lame ass knows me!!...I do find it hilarious that I have a fanboy though tbh LMAO

Fan? Lol. Your shitty posts might as well glow in the dark they stick out so well. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

UChieffyBugger
09-16-2019, 11:38 AM
Fan? Lol. Your shitty posts might as well glow in the dark they stick out so well. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

Yep, they are so "bad" that you can't stop following me around like a lapdog!!!. Here, let me give you a pat...there's a good boy!!

https://dingo.care2.com/pictures/greenliving/1099/1098499.large.jpg

:D

carcosa
09-16-2019, 11:40 AM
I have never masterbated, yuck, nasty.

Okay I like this guy now

J Diddy
09-16-2019, 11:45 AM
I have never masterbated, yuck, nasty.

Lol you a lying motherfucker

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 11:55 AM
Lol you a lying mother****er

Dude, who you calling names ya little shit?

TLO
09-16-2019, 12:02 PM
Did you know that bunkers give any units inside 1+ additional range?

TLO
09-16-2019, 12:03 PM
A changeling has only 5 hit points, making it the lowest hp unit in the game. It can be killed by any unit in the game, including workers with a single hit.

threebag
09-16-2019, 12:06 PM
Why does color of skin make any difference at all? All that matters is what they are QBs, Atheletes, Mothers, Fathers, Friends, People...


But Fuck Muslims

Lzen
09-16-2019, 12:09 PM
There is no such thing as half white.

Just proud of my race and what we have had to overcome to get to where we are today.

Like I said, seek professional help. :doh!:

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:19 PM
Why does color of skin make any difference at all? All that matters is what they are QBs, Atheletes, Mothers, Fathers, Friends, People...

Google...

Deford Bailey.....you will read....first African American to perform at the Grand Ole Opry

Hattie McDaneil.....first African American to win an Oscar (Gone With the Wind)

Howard Drew.....first African American to be called "The Worlds Fastest Human"...he was actually the first to be called that, and the first African American to hold a sprint WR.

Christophe LeMaite...first caucasian to break the 10.00 barrier in the 100m

Doug Williams....first African American QB to win the Superbowl.

Ernie Davis....first African American to win the Heisman.

Jackie Robinson...first African American in MLB

Joe Perry...first African American to have a 1000 yard NFL season

Eddie Tolan....first African American to win the Olympic 100m (1932)

Why did we have "Race Records" The Black baseball and basketball leagues? Why do we have....

Grambling
Alcorn State
Jackson State
Howard
Morgan State
Tuskegee Institute
Texas Southern
Tennessee State

and another 30 or so Historical Black Colleges Universities, the HBCU

Why must we be told....the first black to........well?

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:20 PM
Like I said, seek professional help. :doh!:

Nay!

58-4ever
09-16-2019, 12:22 PM
A) Why does this matter AT ALL?

B) Several of these guys are MIXED... which points me to point A

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:24 PM
A) Why does this matter AT ALL?

B) Several of these guys are MIXED... which points me to point A

Give me the name of a white NFL cornerback.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:26 PM
We have about 40 schools in this nation that are there for blacks, yes anyone can attend but they were started because of our blacks.

Why?

Our Chiefs have had a lot of players from these schools.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 12:37 PM
Hmmm?

Alcorn...Steve McNair
Texas Southern....Michael Strahan
Southern U....Mack "Truck" Lee Hill
Grambling....Buck Buchanon HOF....a ton of NFLers
Florida A&M....Bob Hayes HOF
Jackson State...Walter Payton HOF
Mississippi Valley State....Jerry Rice HOF
Morgan State...Leroy Kelly HOF
Alabama A&M...John Stallworth HOF
Savannah State....Shannon Sharpe HOF
Prairie View....Otis Taylor, Clem Daneils first Raider 1000 yard rusher
NCA&T..J.D.Smith first HBCUer to have a 1000 yard NFL season, a Niner

tyreekthefreak
09-16-2019, 01:21 PM
What is it you hope to accomplish by writing a post like this, Ubeja? It's not a simple statement pointing out a simple fact...because all your posts are like this!

It's like you WANT a negative reaction to what you write but can't handle it when people give you that negative reaction!

If white people pointed out every achievement a white person made in the manner you point out the achievements of black people...your feeling of superiority would soon yield to insecurity!

Take your race-baiting crap to another board...

Kman34
09-16-2019, 02:13 PM
Banned by the first day of Fall

eDave
09-16-2019, 02:16 PM
Banned by the first day of Fall

I mean, the tribe has spoken. I hope the Mods heard it.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 02:51 PM
What is it you hope to accomplish by writing a post like this, Ubeja? It's not a simple statement pointing out a simple fact...because all your posts are like this!

It's like you WANT a negative reaction to what you write but can't handle it when people give you that negative reaction!

If white people pointed out every achievement a white person made in the manner you point out the achievements of black people...your feeling of superiority would soon yield to insecurity!

Take your race-baiting crap to another board...

We are witnessing a dramatic change at the QB position right now and it is thread worthy.


We have at least a dozen of these kinds of threads out there talking about blacks/African Americans, I looked for that before saying anything about race. I saw it was excepted here, because it is. So what is the problem?


One of many.....


https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=302508&highlight=black+QB%3Bs+in+the+nfl

Have another....


https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=302528&highlight=black+running+back


All kinds of race talk here, so what is the problem? I made damn sure it was ok to go there before....going there.


This is ok, but don't talk black QB's,....huh???

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=282090&highlight=the+black+qb

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 03:10 PM
I knew about this before saying anything about race, so this is ok?


https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=219109&highlight=the+white+running+back

Tons of race talk here, so why would I think it was some problem?

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 03:14 PM
Banned by the first day of Fall

I'm not breaking any rules also not talking cocks and poop. Also not going around wimpering around over other posters like a little worm.

I only enter threads that interest me. give it a shot.

How is this ok, but talking black QB's isn't?


https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=325053

RealSNR
09-16-2019, 05:08 PM
I'm not breaking any rules also not talking cocks and poop. Also not going around wimpering around over other posters like a little worm.

I only enter threads that interest me. give it a shot.

How is this ok, but talking black QB's isn't?


https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=325053

Let's compromise.

You're free to start all the threads you want about black people and their bowel movements. Bonus points if you can work in the phrase "black dick" or some variation wherever possible.

Deal?

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 05:14 PM
Let's compromise.

You're free to start all the threads you want about black people and their bowel movements. Bonus points if you can work in the phrase "black dick" or some variation wherever possible.

Deal?

This is you....

SUCK MY DICK, DENVER
**** YOU

.......hahahaha~~~ Little man, cool telling me what I can do, ok? If you think that shit is acceptable behavior, you got problems.

tyreekthefreak
09-16-2019, 05:22 PM
I don't think anybody on this board said a word about Mahomes being black when he was drafted. Most people on this board wanted a white QB (Alex Smith) replaced by Mohomes. No one gave a shit about Mahomes color.

Also, running QB's don't last long in the NFL. Do you not hold your breath when Mahomes runs with it? Look at Cam Newton. Look at Kapernick (though he had no throwing accuracy either.) Look at Vick. Look at RGIII.

You're ragging the wrong group......everyone in here loves Pat Mahomes.

Take your insecurities elsewhere...

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 05:28 PM
I don't think anybody on this board said a word about Mahomes being black when he was drafted. Most people on this board wanted a white QB (Alex Smith) replaced by Mohomes. No one gave a shit about Mahomes color.

Also, running QB's don't last long in the NFL. Do you not hold your breath when Mahomes runs with it? Look at Cam Newton. Look at Kapernick (though he had no throwing accuracy either.) Look at Vick. Look at RGIII.

You're ragging the wrong group......everyone in here loves Pat Mahomes.

Take your insecurities elsewhere...

Huh???? Insecurities????

Where are you getting that from? I'm just talking about where the NFL is heading and that's a more athletic QB, and it's real obvious.

I;m not talking about a sprinter at QB, just a guy with mobility, something an Eli, Rivers, Marino, Fouts, Brady, Brees, don't have.

Mahomes..???

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 05:30 PM
I don't think anybody on this board said a word about Mahomes being black when he was drafted. Most people on this board wanted a white QB (Alex Smith) replaced by Mohomes. No one gave a shit about Mahomes color.

Also, running QB's don't last long in the NFL. Do you not hold your breath when Mahomes runs with it? Look at Cam Newton. Look at Kapernick (though he had no throwing accuracy either.) Look at Vick. Look at RGIII.

You're ragging the wrong group......everyone in here loves Pat Mahomes.

Take your insecurities elsewhere...

Huh???? Insecurities????

Where are you getting that from? I'm just talking about where the NFL is heading and that is a more athletic QB, and it's real obvious.

I;m not talking about a sprinter at QB, just a guy with mobility, something an Eli, Rivers, Marino, Fouts, Brady, Brees, don't have.

Mahomes..???

Compare what Dak Prescott can do vs Kirk Cousins.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 05:34 PM
Is this an NFL record...

Cowboys...Dak Prescott
Saints....Teddy Bridgewater
Buc's...Jameis Winston
Panthers...Cam Newton
Seahawks....Russell Wilson
Colts...Jacoby Brissett
Texans...Deshaun Watson
Chiefs...Patrick Mahomes
Cards...Kyler Murray
Ravens...Lamar Jackson

WhiteWhale
09-16-2019, 05:35 PM
Huh???? Insecurities????

Where are you getting that from? I'm just talking about where the NFL is heading and that's a more athletic QB, and it's real obvious.

I;m not talking about a sprinter at QB, just a guy with mobility, something an Eli, Rivers, Marino, Fouts, Brady, Brees, don't have.

Mahomes..???

People have been saying this for about 30 years now. There have always been athletic fast QB's and they've never 'taken over' the NFL. McNabb and Vick were supposed to usher in a whole new era. That didn't' really happen. Then the read option was going to make athletic QB's the default. That didn't happen.

The NFL revolutionizes athletic QB's, not the other way around. Mahomes is great because he's awesome at what a QB needs to be awesome at: Throwing the football. His mobility is just gravy on an already stacked meal.

tyreekthefreak
09-16-2019, 05:36 PM
You're insecure as hell!!!! Everyone sees it. That's why all your posts deal with black this, black that. Insecurity, plain and simple.

Your original post on this thread was racist as hell.....why it's still on the board, who knows!

I'm hoping like hell Mahomes is the first black QB to win 5 Super Bowls in a row!!!!

tyreekthefreak
09-16-2019, 05:38 PM
Is this an NFL record...

Cowboys...Dak Prescott
Saints....Teddy Bridgewater
Buc's...Jameis Winston
Panthers...Cam Newton
Seahawks....Russell Wilson
Colts...Jacoby Brissett
Texans...Deshaun Watson
Chiefs...Patrick Mahomes
Cards...Kyler Murray
Ravens...Lamar Jackson

Wilson and Mahomes are the only QB's you list above that I would want QB'ing my team! Maybe Murray...

WhiteWhale
09-16-2019, 05:39 PM
This is you....

SUCK MY DICK, DENVER
**** YOU

.......hahahaha~~~ Little man, cool telling me what I can do, ok? If you think that shit is acceptable behavior, you got problems.

This kinda spergy humorlessness isn't helping you. Lighten up.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 05:40 PM
You're insecure as hell!!!! Everyone sees it. That's why all your posts deal with black this, black that. Insecurity, plain and simple.

Your original post on this thread was racist as hell.....why it's still on the board, who knows!

I'm hoping like hell Mahomes is the first black QB to win 5 Super Bowls in a row!!!!

Why would anyone be insecure about NFL QB's, ha~~~~

Dude, there are tons of threads here about race, TONS.

What is racist about talking black QB's? Are we suppose to play pretend?

threebag
09-16-2019, 05:44 PM
It’s not bout skin color as much It’s about coachability.

WhiteWhale
09-16-2019, 05:45 PM
Why would anyone be insecure about NFL QB's, ha~~~~

Dude, there are tons of threads here about race, TONS.

What is racist about talking black QB's? Are we suppose to play pretend?

Yes, we get it. You think blacks are better.

Are we going to talk about athleticism of the QB position, which is interesting, or are we just going to talk about melanin levels of said QB's?

Cos that argument has been sitting on a roadside dead since the 90's.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 05:49 PM
It’s not bout skin color as much It’s about coachability.

First off it's never been about skin pigment, ok? It's about unique physical characteristics only found in those with roots to western Africa.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks not because of coaching but because of a lack of speed and quicks. NFL receivers can run a 4.3 40, so who can run with them, yep, other 4.3's, how many white cats run a 4.3?

WhiteWhale
09-16-2019, 05:50 PM
First off it's never been about skin pigment, ok? It's about unique physical characteristics only found in those with roots to western Africa.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks not because of coaching but because of a lack of speed and quicks. NFL receivers can run a 4.3 40, so who can run with them, yep, other 4.3's, how many white cats run a 4.3?

Who ****ing CARES? There's no correlation between running fast and being a good QB. God, we get it. Blacks run faster. News at 11.

FFS, Alex Smith could run in a straight line way faster than Mahomes. Mahomes isn't better because he's 'more athletic'. He's better because he's MUCH better at THROWING THE FOOTBALL. I don't want to attribute it to his blackness because I've never seen anyone of any race throw it better...and the guys who come closest are... well... white. Seems western africa's superior genes don't influence throwing of inflated oblong shaped artificial pigskin.

Black QB's aren't a novelty anymore and the days of NFL scouts and teams discriminating against their QB talent is over.

eDave
09-16-2019, 05:51 PM
Nobody gives a shit about a QB's ground speed.

tyreekthefreak
09-16-2019, 05:54 PM
First off it's never been about skin pigment, ok? It's about unique physical characteristics only found in those with roots to western Africa.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks not because of coaching but because of a lack of speed and quicks. NFL receivers can run a 4.3 40, so who can run with them, yep, other 4.3's, how many white cats run a 4.3?

LOLOLOLOLOL...….you're an idiot. Goodnight...

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 05:58 PM
Yes, we get it. You think blacks are better.

Are we going to talk about athleticism of the QB position, which is interesting, or are we just going to talk about melanin levels of said QB's?

Cos that argument has been sitting on a roadside dead since the 90's.

There are no black QB's on a par with Brady/Montana/Rodgers/Brees/Marino/Peyton, so no I don't think we are better. What I think is QB's need to put more stress on a defense in todays game, and being able to move around, pick up that third and 7 with their legs is where the game is going and we see it with who is coming out of the NCAA, and the HS's.

Ubeja Vontell
09-16-2019, 05:59 PM
LOLOLOLOLOL...….you're an idiot. Goodnight...

So you know nothing about anything, I could tell.

WhiteWhale
09-16-2019, 06:00 PM
There are no black QB's on a par with Brady/Montana/Rodgers/Brees/Marino/Peyton, so no I don't think we are better. What I think is QB's need to put more stress on a defense in todays game, and being able to move around, pick up that third and 7 with their legs is where the game is going and we see it with who is coming out of the NCAA, and the HS's.

What we see are the natural consequence of 30 years of not discriminating against black QB's after decades of doing exactly that.

Obviously the numbers would level off. Black QB's in college and HS aren't new.

The QB position will always favor the guys who are the best at throwing the football. ALWAYS.

Setsuna
09-16-2019, 06:35 PM
Banned by the first day of Fall

He has 7 days LMAOLMAOLMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-16-2019, 06:45 PM
Montel's Vagina is AIDS, and this fucking thread sucks.

J Diddy
09-16-2019, 07:23 PM
First off it's never been about skin pigment, ok? It's about unique physical characteristics only found in those with roots to western Africa.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks not because of coaching but because of a lack of speed and quicks. NFL receivers can run a 4.3 40, so who can run with them, yep, other 4.3's, how many white cats run a 4.3?

Jimmy the Greek much?

BigCatDaddy
09-16-2019, 07:54 PM
Whitlock is back I see.

Mama Hip Rockets
09-16-2019, 08:01 PM
My Top 10

1.Warren Moon....Oilers/Washington
2.Russell Wilson.....Seahawks/Wisconsin
3.Patrick Mahomes....Chiefs/Texas Tech
4.Donovan McNabb....Eagles/Syracuse
5.Steve McNair.....Titans/Alcorn
6.Randall Cunningham....Eagles/UNLV
7.Dak Prescott....Cowboys/Miss State
8.Cam Newton....Panthers/Auburn
9.Michael Vick...Falcons/Virginia Tech
10.Doug Williams...Buc's/Grambling



Russell Wilson and Warren Moon above Mahomes? ROFL

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 12:17 AM
Russell Wilson and Warren Moon above Mahomes? ROFL

Warren Moon is in the Hall of Fame. Easily over a third year QB, any third year QB.

Wilson walked right in and took over, Mahomes was baby sat for a season.

Wilson has done way too much, set too many NFL records, played in two SB's. You can take any QB you want Tom Brady, Montana, Marino, Rodgers, etc etc and compare what they did in the first 8 seasons vs what Wilson has done, yep...Russell Wilson.

No way in hell you can put a guy with less than two years as a starter over a HOFer and a guy like Russell Wilson.

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 12:22 AM
Jimmy the Greek much?

Jimmy the Greek totally nailed it, it was 100% like he said.

That trip over here was horrendous and only the strong survived it. We start there.

There have been about a dozen sub 10.00 sprinters from Nigeria, all of Asia/white Europe combined about half of that.

Sorry
09-17-2019, 12:25 AM
Who do you think has the biggest pecker

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 12:32 AM
Who do you think has the biggest pecker

Dude, it's pushin' midnight, don't you have school tomorrow?

Sorry
09-17-2019, 12:34 AM
Dude, it's pushin' midnight, don't you have school tomorrow?

Doing a report on Alzheimer's and waiting for your next post.

kysirsoze
09-17-2019, 12:40 AM
Okay I like this guy now

LMAO

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 12:42 AM
Doing a report on Alzheimer's and waiting for your next post.

Dude, anyone asking about other men;s peckers has no comeback, ok? What are you 12?

sully1983
09-17-2019, 12:43 AM
Not hating on the brothas on here or start some "race war" lol but come on, how many of them have won Superbowls??? Russel Wilson (most recently of course) and that Redskins' black qb won one (way before my time though).

White boy pocket passers still dominate the QB position when its all said & done.

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 01:04 AM
Not hating on the brothas on here or start some "race war" lol but come on, how many of them have won Superbowls??? Russel Wilson (most recently of course) and that Redskins' black qb won one (way before my time though).

White boy pocket passers still dominate the QB position when its all said & done.

How many current NFL teams have a white boy pocket passer?

If you watch HS/NCAA football, what are you seeing?

The days of standing tall in the pocket are coming to an end, now it's put pressure on a defense on the perimeter, make them worry about the run.

There is Eli, nobody is worried at all about him running the ball so here they come, totally different deal with a Lamar Jackson back there.

The first draft pick next season with be Jalen Hurts out of Oklahoma, he can scoot.

CasselGotPeedOn
09-17-2019, 01:20 AM
https://media.makeameme.org/created/this-thread-gave-aqceke.jpg

Sorry
09-17-2019, 01:25 AM
Dude, anyone asking about other men;s peckers has no comeback, ok? What are you 12?

What are you - 85? Has Matlock marathons run you dry on entertainment value?

A bunch of mid west white guys aren't gonna have their ears perked for black qb plights

And the answer is Russell Wilson.

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 01:27 AM
What are you - 85? Has Matlock marathons run you dry on entertainment value?

A bunch of mid west white guys aren't gonna have their ears perked for black qb plights

And the answer is Russell Wilson.

Just your basic mature adult. Dude.....talking peckers, really?

Grow up little man, ok?

Sorry
09-17-2019, 01:28 AM
How many current NFL teams have a white boy pocket passer?

If you watch HS/NCAA football, what are you seeing?

The days of standing tall in the pocket are coming to an end, now it's put pressure on a defense on the perimeter, make them worry about the run.

There is Eli, nobody is worried at all about him running the ball so here they come, totally different deal with a Lamar Jackson back there.

The first draft pick next season with be Jalen Hurts out of Oklahoma, he can scoot.

And if you graduate to watching NFL what are you seeing? Athletic QBs who can't read an NFL level defense in time will not get a second NFL contract or one that is franchise level pay day.

Some elite QBs are mobile, all top tier QBs are pocket savvy

Sorry
09-17-2019, 01:31 AM
Just your basic mature adult. Dude.....talking peckers, really?

Grow up little man, ok?

You're a mature adult but can't take the hint that people are laughing at you? You're not a mature adult, you're a bumbling incoherent fool.

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 01:37 AM
You're a mature adult but can't take the hint that people are laughing at you? You're not a mature adult, you're a bumbling incoherent fool.

Do you see me wimpering around over message board threads, talking cocks, poop and peckers, well?

Nothing incoherent, nobody here in any position to laugh at anyone (their thread history proves that) and far far from being a fool.

Dude, talking about peckers.....really guy?

Sorry
09-17-2019, 01:48 AM
Do you see me wimpering around over message board threads, talking cocks, poop and peckers, well?

Nothing incoherent, nobody here in any position to laugh at anyone (their thread history proves that) and far far from being a fool.

Dude, talking about peckers.....really guy?

You're still on it (predictably) it's over my guy, ok?


What's your thread history say about you kiddo? Lol

sully1983
09-17-2019, 01:52 AM
How many current NFL teams have a white boy pocket passer?

If you watch HS/NCAA football, what are you seeing?

The days of standing tall in the pocket are coming to an end, now it's put pressure on a defense on the perimeter, make them worry about the run.

There is Eli, nobody is worried at all about him running the ball so here they come, totally different deal with a Lamar Jackson back there.

The first draft pick next season with be Jalen Hurts out of Oklahoma, he can scoot.

I will agree to disagree. My point still stands. Very few (only 2 actually) black QBs have won a Super Bowl.
I'm seriously not trying to knock these mobile black qbs but their style of play isn't as sustainable as what white boy pocket passers are. You actually believe a guy like Lamar Jackson is going to win a Super Bowl? lol

I also disagree that Hurts will be the number one pick. Its probably gonna be Tua (who is of course black) so you do kinda have a point there at least.

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 01:54 AM
Bored with the topic.

What other team can compare to this....

Chiefs all time defense

DL

Jerry Mays
Curley Culp...HOF
Buck Buchanon ...HOF
Neil Smith
Art Still

Backers

Derrick Thomas
Willie Laneir....HOF
Bobby Bell...HOF
Derrick Johnson
Justin Houston

backs

Eric Berry
Albert Lewis
Emmitt Thomas...HOF
Johnny Robinson...HOF
Dale Carter

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 01:55 AM
You're still on it (predictably) it's over my guy, ok?


What's your thread history say about you kiddo? Lol

I have no....0....?

Ubeja Vontell
09-17-2019, 02:04 AM
I will agree to disagree. My point still stands. Very few (only 2 actually) black QBs have won a Super Bowl.
I'm seriously not trying to knock these mobile black qbs but their style of play isn't as sustainable as what white boy pocket passers are. You actually believe a guy like Lamar Jackson is going to win a Super Bowl? lol

I also disagree that Hurts will be the number one pick. Its probably gonna be Tua (who is of course black) so you do kinda have a point there at least.

I'm not talking the past with this, I'm talking about what we are seeing right now, and the future.

Five divisions could be won by black QB's.

Ravens/Jackson
Cowboys/Prescott
Seahawks/Wilson
Houston/Watson
Chiefs/Mahomes

A Cowboys vs Chiefs SB a legit possibility, the first SB with two black QB's.

Do you follow HS football? Look at what we are seeing there, look at the NCAA.

Romo was replaced by who, Flacco was replaced by who, Luck retires who steps in, down goes Brees, who steps in, the first draft pick was who?

Jalen Hurts is totally out playing Tua this season, and he is the current Heisman fav.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 11:50 AM
A black QB won the SB, a black QB won the MVP and a black QB came in second. And when the players do their top 100 players for 2019, who can be ahead of Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson and Lamar Jackson?

I do put this gang....

Mahomes
Wilson
Jackson
Watson
Prescott

above

Brees
Rodgers
Brady
Cousins
Wentz

Not historically but 2020.

Next season we could have.....

the five I mentioned

Jameis Winston
Cam Newton
Kyler Murray
Teddy Bridgewater somewhere
Brissett
Haskins

A third of the league, gotta be a record.

njchiefs
02-16-2020, 12:27 PM
^^^^ All true. Now we just gotta work on diversifying the place kickers, punters, tight end and offensive line positions more. I hear they make the punters and place kickers sit in the back of the bus. Racism is born of ignorance. But the race card is counterproductive. Can’t we all just get along ....

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 12:52 PM
^^^^ All true. Now we just gotta work on diversifying the place kickers, punters, tight end and offensive line positions more. I hear they make the punters and place kickers sit in the back of the bus. Racism is born of ignorance. But the race card is counterproductive. Can’t we all just get along ....

I will never understand this need to play pretend. I have been to the Phillipines, tiny little people, simply a fact of life. Then there is Samoa, they are huge, just another reality.

Those with roots to western Africa can run, simply a life reality. Why we have to play games about it?

If you watch HBCU football, it's kinda funny watching all black teams but white kickers, ha! Yep, a life reality.

Jewish Rabbi
02-16-2020, 12:56 PM
Shocker that you’re let back into The Lounge and bump this racist thread.

You act kind of normal while rompered, get out on good behavior, and then come back and do the same shit that got you rompered in the first place.

Mennonite
02-16-2020, 12:56 PM
Well, you learn something new everyday. Black people are good at sports? Who could have guessed? I can't wait to tell all my friends about this. They should be surprised because they've all been in comas since 1948.

njchiefs
02-16-2020, 12:57 PM
I will never understand this need to play pretend. I have been to the Phillipines, tiny little people, simply a fact of life. Then there is Samoa, they are huge, just another reality.

Those with roots to western Africa can run, simply a life reality. Why we have to play games about it?

If you watch HBCU football, it's kinda funny watching all black teams but white kickers, ha! Yep, a life reality.

Well I sort of agree, but then it gets very dicey when you then consider that things other then physical stature and ability can also be genetically determined.

PAChiefsGuy
02-16-2020, 01:00 PM
Black QBs > White QBs?

RealSNR
02-16-2020, 01:07 PM
Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith (before his leg exploded), and Matt Stafford are all effective scrambling QBs. With the exception of Josh Allen, you might not call them "electric" but they definitely make plays with their feet.

Alex Smith in particular ran like a goddamn gazelle. It's the one part of his game that I really really admired.

banecat
02-16-2020, 01:07 PM
Shocker that you’re let back into The Lounge and bump this racist thread.

You act kind of normal while rompered, get out on good behavior, and then come back and do the same shit that got you rompered in the first place.

The dude remembers the JFK Assassination like it was yesterday. He's just from a different time. I'm not condoning it. I'm just trying to explain it

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 01:20 PM
Shocker that you’re let back into The Lounge and bump this racist thread.

You act kind of normal while rompered, get out on good behavior, and then come back and do the same shit that got you rompered in the first place.

There was a big discussion about the year of the black QB on Speak For Your Self, when intelligent people discuss this it's interesting, nobody gets all wrapped up in that silly...racist....silliness, they are far above and beyond that.

I never see talking real life as being anything other than reality.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
02-16-2020, 01:22 PM
If you have been in America for more than 5-6 generations. You're a mutt, if you like it or not

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 01:23 PM
Well I sort of agree, but then it gets very dicey when you then consider that things other then physical stature and ability can also be genetically determined.

What is dicey about 100% of the cornerbacks in the NFL have roots to western Africa as do 98% of the starting running backs.

JohnnyV13
02-16-2020, 01:23 PM
I will never understand this need to play pretend. I have been to the Phillipines, tiny little people, simply a fact of life. Then there is Samoa, they are huge, just another reality.

Those with roots to western Africa can run, simply a life reality. Why we have to play games about it?

If you watch HBCU football, it's kinda funny watching all black teams but white kickers, ha! Yep, a life reality.

I'm half Filipino. I'm a short guy (5'7") but feel lucky to be that tall since my Dad is 5'1". It startles me to go to the Philippines and be able to look over a crowd at 5'7".

Average man in the Philippines is 5'3" 3/8ths. You can see TONS of utterly tiny, gymnast sized adult women.

The weird thing about the Philippines is that their favorite sport is basketball, which is a game they can't hope to compete outside their home country. You'd think they'd adopt soccer or some other game where height isn't such a big deal.

banecat
02-16-2020, 01:24 PM
1. Moon, that guy would still hold every record for passing if he hadn't been forced to waste his talent in the CFL
2. Randal McCunningham, that guy could throw rockets and run like the wind. If he had played RB he'd hold all of those records
3. Doug Williams, the first to be a champ and have to listen to listen to UV's brother actually ask him in a presser what it's like being a black QB
4. Vick, he changed the game. And was the first to lead a team to a playoff win at Lambeau
5. Watson, you put that kid on a solid team with an actual Oline, and he's Mahomes. And has a ring or two

I'm only doing a top five and an honorable mention or two because I'm getting bored with this

Honorable Mentions are Mahomes, and Winston. I'd like to see what Mahomes does if he doesn't have the fastest WR and the most aggressive TE in the game. I think that he does well because he's high IQ in general and in football. But he's probably the Bo Jackson, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretsky, MJ, and Lebron of football, but I'm not putting him above the top four. They were game changers, but he probably passes 5 halfway through the first game next year. Winston is so talented, but such a headcase, and LJ in BMore probably passes him up in a couple of years if we're just going to be talking about Black QB's

DRM08
02-16-2020, 01:25 PM
Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith (before his leg exploded), and Matt Stafford are all effective scrambling QBs. With the exception of Josh Allen, you might not call them "electric" but they definitely make plays with their feet.

Alex Smith in particular ran like a goddamn gazelle. It's the one part of his game that I really really admired.

Aaron Rodgers is another one (before he got old). He's the guy that I always felt was most similar to Mahomes. Really good scrambling ability mixed with insane arm talent.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 01:26 PM
Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith (before his leg exploded), and Matt Stafford are all effective scrambling QBs. With the exception of Josh Allen, you might not call them "electric" but they definitely make plays with their feet.

Alex Smith in particular ran like a goddamn gazelle. It's the one part of his game that I really really admired.

Being effective is a lot different than....



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ShowtimeSBMVP
02-16-2020, 01:29 PM
A black QB won the SB, a black QB won the MVP and a black QB came in second. And when the players do their top 100 players for 2019, who can be ahead of Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson and Lamar Jackson?

I do put this gang....

Mahomes
Wilson
Jackson
Watson
Prescott

above

Brees
Rodgers
Brady
Cousins
Wentz

Not historically but 2020.

Next season we could have.....

the five I mentioned

Jameis Winston
Cam Newton
Kyler Murray
Teddy Bridgewater somewhere
Brissett
Haskins

A third of the league, gotta be a record.

Last time I looked Wilson and Patrick were mixed race

JohnnyV13
02-16-2020, 01:30 PM
MANY MANY years ago, SI ran a story about why black athletes run and jump better than other racial groups. The picture that headlined the story was Spud Webb winning the dunk competition.

The story attributed it to Africans averaging a muscular insertion point significantly farther from the joint than most other groups (thus increasing torque around a lever). Even almost 30 years ago that story got bombed by the PC police for being racist.

However, anyone that's played pickup basketball knows that black guys generally run the floor faster than white guys. It's not always true. But, if a team of black guys confront a team of white guys in a pickup game, I'll guarantee you the black guys are going make the white guys prove they can run with them.

Would be nice to discuss this without someone screaming racism.

banecat
02-16-2020, 01:30 PM
If you have been in America for more than 5-6 generations. You're a mutt, if you like it or not

This. I've met only like two or three other people that aren't all of European Descent, and a lot of Americans have at least some Native American blood in them if we're just talking about the whites. And one of those was an actual Hatfield. Unless you have nothing but blonde or red hair, and only blue or green eyes, you have either African, or Asian DNA. And with less than five percent of the planet just having true blond or red hair and the same amount being with green or blue eyes, and not all of them overlapping, very few people are white white, and I don't really care, and so I'm not looking that shit up

banecat
02-16-2020, 01:30 PM
Last time I looked Wilson and Patrick were mixed race

Boom

Mennonite
02-16-2020, 01:31 PM
I'm starting to think this guy wants bbc even more than Prison Bitch.

scho63
02-16-2020, 01:32 PM
Jimmy the Greek approves of this thread. :LOL:

banecat
02-16-2020, 01:33 PM
Aaron Rodgers is another one (before he got old). He's the guy that I always felt was most similar to Mahomes. Really good scrambling ability mixed with insane arm talent.

And accuracy, and he's short for a QB. I think that he's barely over six feet tall. He still showed that he has most of that arm left against San Fran in the NFCCG

banecat
02-16-2020, 01:34 PM
Jimmy the Greek approves of this thread. :LOL:

That dude was so entertaining, but most people with mob ties are

DRM08
02-16-2020, 01:34 PM
Last time I looked Wilson and Patrick were mixed race

Prescott and Murray as well.

Easy 6
02-16-2020, 01:35 PM
Theres absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out the successes of black QB's, but it always feels like theres another angle to these discussions with you, Ubeja...

banecat
02-16-2020, 01:38 PM
Theres absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out the successes of black QB's, but it always feels like theres another angle to these discussions with you, Ubeja...

It does have that separate but equal feel to it all

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 01:42 PM
Last time I looked Wilson and Patrick were mixed race

So this is bogus?




Year of the black quarterback!
September 11, 2019 - by Larry Fitzgerald

Glendale, AZ — NFL year 100 is off to a great start for everyone except Collin Kaepernick. The season opens with more black quarterbacks starting than ever: Arizona’s Kyler Murray, Baltimore’s Lamar Jackson, Carolina’s Cam Newton, Dallas’ Dak Prescott, Houston’s Deshawn Watson, Kansas City’s Patrick Mahomes, Seattle’s Russell Wilson, Indianapolis’ Jacoby Brissett and Tampa Bay’s Jameis Winston.

That’s nine black starters among 32 NFL teams and cities, making 2019 the year of the black quarterback.

Mahomes is the NFL MVP. Wilson has won a Super Bowl before and led his team, Seattle, to two Super Bowls. Newton has also led his team, Carolina, to the Super Bowl. If we could just get Kaepernick a job, we would have three quarterbacks with previous Super Bowl experience.

ShowtimeSBMVP
02-16-2020, 01:45 PM
So this is bogus?




Year of the black quarterback!
September 11, 2019 - by Larry Fitzgerald

Glendale, AZ — NFL year 100 is off to a great start for everyone except Collin Kaepernick. The season opens with more black quarterbacks starting than ever: Arizona’s Kyler Murray, Baltimore’s Lamar Jackson, Carolina’s Cam Newton, Dallas’ Dak Prescott, Houston’s Deshawn Watson, Kansas City’s Patrick Mahomes, Seattle’s Russell Wilson, Indianapolis’ Jacoby Brissett and Tampa Bay’s Jameis Winston.

That’s nine black starters among 32 NFL teams and cities, making 2019 the year of the black quarterback.

Mahomes is the NFL MVP. Wilson has won a Super Bowl before and led his team, Seattle, to two Super Bowls. Newton has also led his team, Carolina, to the Super Bowl. If we could just get Kaepernick a job, we would have three quarterbacks with previous Super Bowl experience.


Yes it’s common sense, Patrick Dad is Black and his mom is white. That equals mixed race.

njchiefs
02-16-2020, 01:45 PM
What is dicey about 100% of the cornerbacks in the NFL have roots to western Africa as do 98% of the starting running backs.

You didn’t read or understand my reply.

Easy 6
02-16-2020, 01:48 PM
It does have that separate but equal feel to it all

It does seem to be true that blacks, in general, have a higher density of fast twitch muscle fiber

But Ubeja seems to see that as some kind of overall superiority, he's pretty fascinated by it IMO

Mennonite
02-16-2020, 01:48 PM
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Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 01:52 PM
MANY MANY years ago, SI ran a story about why black athletes run and the jump better than other racial groups. The picture that headlined the story was Spud Webb winning the dunk competition.

The story attributed it to Africans averaging a muscular insertion point significantly farther from the joint than most other groups (thus increasing torque around a lever). Even almost 30 years ago that story got bombed by the PC police for being racist.

However, anyone that's played pickup basketball knows that black guys generally run the floor faster than white guys. It's not always true. But, if a team of black guys confront a team of white guys in a pickup game, I'll guarantee you the black guys are going make the white guys prove they can run with them.

Would be nice to discuss this without someone screaming racism.

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

banecat
02-16-2020, 01:52 PM
It does seem to be true that blacks, in general, have a higher density of fast twitch muscle fiber

But Ubeja seems to see that as some kind of overall superiority, he's pretty fascinated by it IMO

Exactly. Like because blind people have a better sense of smell that they should be used to solve crimes or track fugitives in manhunts

ThaVirus
02-16-2020, 01:55 PM
Last time I looked Wilson and Patrick were mixed race


Wilson’s parents are both black.

kccrow
02-16-2020, 01:55 PM
Why do we care what race a QB is? Seriously. I've seen this pop up in media discussions several times. It's not like there haven't been good "black" QBs in the past and many of those have been pointed out. Is there something special about it that I'm not seeing? Black athletes dominate sports in terms of numbers, yet it needs to be made into something special if they play QB in the NFL or play hockey in the NHL? A good QB is a good QB and race has absolutely fucking nothing to do with it in my eyes.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 01:58 PM
Jimmy the Greek approves of this thread. :LOL:

Jimmy the Greek totally nailed it.

Gus Cannon is the leader of The Gus Cannon Jug Band who recorded back in the late 20's early 30's, he was born in the 1880's, his father was a slave.

Cannon...

My dad talked about the owner pairing that big strong buck with that big stout woman, looking to produce a better worker.

Something like that, yes it did happen. Then you can't ignore how only the strong survived the trip over here, all the weak ones died along the way so..............

ShowtimeSBMVP
02-16-2020, 01:58 PM
Wilson’s parents are both black.He’s part Native American to say he’s 100 % black is false

Demonpenz
02-16-2020, 02:06 PM
Old ass owners and GM's were too dumb to put the ball in the best athletes hands at the most important position in sports. Randell Cuttingham doing RPO's and quick options and read options would have been nice.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 02:07 PM
It does seem to be true that blacks, in general, have a higher density of fast twitch muscle fiber

But Ubeja seems to see that as some kind of overall superiority, he's pretty fascinated by it IMO

There are 330 million Americans, of that about 14% are Afro Americans. Of that 14% half are women, so now we are talking about 7%, of that 7% we have kids and old men so what % are between 22-30, what....4/5?

So,.....when 4/5 % of a nations population is 100% of anything like...

NFL cornerback
Olympic sprinters

,,,,we have to ask,,,,,how can that be? Right?

There is a high school in Fresno named Edison, it's mostly black, so guess who rules the track around here?

njchiefs
02-16-2020, 02:14 PM
The obvious danger of having this discussion is that if one can attribute a particular athletic ability to an ethnic origin or a genetic trait more prevalent in a given race, then non athletic genetic prevalences are fair game as well... Bell Curve stuff. A slippery slope. And one best left alone. BTW, my 5’4” Filipino father had the best underhanded 3 point jump shot on the planet.

ShowtimeSBMVP
02-16-2020, 02:21 PM
Ubeja Vontell Would you have a problem with someone saying it’s the rise of the white running back? Christian McCaffrey Is the best RB in the NFL right now.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 02:22 PM
Why do we care what race a QB is? Seriously. I've seen this pop up in media discussions several times. It's not like there haven't been good "black" QBs in the past and many of those have been pointed out. Is there something special about it that I'm not seeing? Black athletes dominate sports in terms of numbers, yet it needs to be made into something special if they play QB in the NFL or play hockey in the NHL? A good QB is a good QB and race has absolutely ****ing nothing to do with it in my eyes.

Google

Doug Williams....you will read first black QB to win the Superbowl
Howard Drew....you will read the first black Worlds Fastest Human
Hattie McDaneil.....first black to win an Oscar
Ernie Davis.....first black to win the Heisman...........movie made
Jackie Robinson....first black in MLB........movie made
Joe "Jet" Perry.....first black to gain a 1000 yards in an NFL season
Deford Bailey,,,,,first black at the Grand Old Opry
George "Little Chocolate" Dixn....first black to hold a boxng world title
Willie Thrower....first black to start an NFL game

Then it works like this also...

Christophe LeMaitre....frst caucasian to break 10.00 in a 100m
Jim Gregory....first white QB at Grambling.......move made


So yes people care.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 02:24 PM
Old ass owners and GM's were too dumb to put the ball in the best athletes hands at the most important position in sports. Randell Cuttingham doing RPO's and quick options and read options would have been nice.

Bingo!!!!

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 02:25 PM
The obvious danger of having this discussion is that if one can attribute a particular athletic ability to an ethnic origin or a genetic trait more prevalent in a given race, then non athletic genetic prevalences are fair game as well... Bell Curve stuff. A slippery slope. And one best left alone. BTW, my 5’4” Filipino father had the best underhanded 3 point jump shot on the planet.

What danger just open your eyes and there it is.

banecat
02-16-2020, 02:30 PM
Google

Doug Williams....you will read first black QB to win the Superbowl
Howard Drew....you will read the first black Worlds Fastest Human
Hattie McDaneil.....first black to win an Oscar
Ernie Davis.....first black to win the Heisman...........movie made
Jackie Robinson....first black in MLB........movie made
Joe "Jet" Perry.....first black to gain a 1000 yards in an NFL season
Deford Bailey,,,,,first black at the Grand Old Opry
George "Little Chocolate" Dixn....first black to hold a boxng world title
Willie Thrower....first black to start an NFL game

Then it works like this also...

Christophe LeMaitre....frst caucasian to break 10.00 in a 100m
Jim Gregory....first white QB at Grambling.......move made


So yes people care.

You forgot The Juice. The first player to rush for over 2,000 yards in a season

Easy 6
02-16-2020, 02:30 PM
There are 330 million Americans, of that about 14% are Afro Americans. Of that 14% half are women, so now we are talking about 7%, of that 7% we have kids and old men so what % are between 22-30, what....4/5?

So,.....when 4/5 % of a nations population is 100% of anything like...

NFL cornerback
Olympic sprinters

,,,,we have to ask,,,,,how can that be? Right?

There is a high school in Fresno named Edison, it's mostly black, so guess who rules the track around here?

But why are you so obsessed with this subject, what difference does it make in your life?

Does it make you feel superior or something?

Mennonite
02-16-2020, 02:31 PM
You know what CP needs? A frank discussion about race and how it relates to IQ, crime rates, and dick size.

I can think of no other group of people better suited to hash this out and really to the bottom of things.

banecat
02-16-2020, 02:32 PM
You know what CP needs? A frank discussion about race and how it relates to IQ, crime rates, and dick size.

I can think of no other group of people better suited to hash this out and really to the bottom of things.

I can't see a discussion like that taking a turn for the worse

Easy 6
02-16-2020, 02:34 PM
You know what CP needs? A frank discussion about race and how it relates to IQ, crime rates, and dick size.

I can think of no other group of people better suited to hash this out and really to the bottom of things.

I can't see a discussion like that taking a turn for the worse

LMAO its gonna be enlightening for sure...

banecat
02-16-2020, 02:35 PM
LMAO its gonna be enlightening for sure...

Where's PB at? He's an expert on issues like this

kccrow
02-16-2020, 02:35 PM
Google

Doug Williams....you will read first black QB to win the Superbowl
Howard Drew....you will read the first black Worlds Fastest Human
Hattie McDaneil.....first black to win an Oscar
Ernie Davis.....first black to win the Heisman...........movie made
Jackie Robinson....first black in MLB........movie made
Joe "Jet" Perry.....first black to gain a 1000 yards in an NFL season
Deford Bailey,,,,,first black at the Grand Old Opry
George "Little Chocolate" Dixn....first black to hold a boxng world title
Willie Thrower....first black to start an NFL game

Then it works like this also...

Christophe LeMaitre....frst caucasian to break 10.00 in a 100m
Jim Gregory....first white QB at Grambling.......move made


So yes people care.

Nobody gives a flying fuck anywhere in my universe. You know who talks about black QBs, primarily? People who had issue with the Kaepernick debacle. And you know what? The NFL didn't blackball Kaepernick because he was black. In a league that supports more black people than any other, a man decided to use it as his personal dumping ground for racial injustice and at the same time desecrated the National Anthem. The NFL has made it clear to him that they will not tolerate it.

And on the same front, racial injustice does exist in society. It doesn't exist in the NFL at the QB position. The NFL and its owners have not passed on black QBs that have shown promise. They have given them opportunities. Some have flourished, many haven't. So really, drop the bullshit that people care that a QB is black. They don't. They care that the QB is good. Period.

You're great at using Google, you proved that in the past. It's your only source of knowledge.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 02:36 PM
Ubeja Vontell Would you have a problem with someone saying it’s the rise of the white running back? Christian McCaffrey Is the best RB in the NFL right now.

There have been TONS of great white running backs over the years, how about...

Hall of Famers

The Galloping Ghost
Steve Van Buren
Bronko Nagurski
Johnny "Blood" McNalley
Hugh "King" McElhenny
Frank Gifford
Jim Taylor
Paul Hornung
John Riggins

1000 yard rushers

Rick Casares
John David Crow,,,,Paul Brown talked about trading Jim Brown to get this guy.
Craig James
Peyton Hillis

studs

Keith Lincoln
Dickie Post
Alan "The Horse" Ameche
Alex Webster
Larry Csonka
Nick Pietrasonte
Ken Williard

So white running backs are nothing new.

But....McCaffrey has an unfair advantage, here is is grandpa at the 1960 Olympics, he is in lane one.

(NFLer to be Frank Budd/Ray Norton in two.three)
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banecat
02-16-2020, 02:42 PM
There have been TONS of great white running backs over the years, how about...

Hall of Famers

The Galloping Ghost
Steve Van Buren
Bronko Nagurski
Johnny "Blood" McNalley
Hugh "King" McElhenny
Frank Gifford
Jim Taylor
Paul Hornung
John Riggins

1000 yard rushers

Rick Casares
John David Crow,,,,Paul Brown talked about trading Jim Brown to get this guy.
Craig James
Peyton Hillis

studs

Keith Lincoln
Dickie Post
Alan "The Horse" Ameche
Alex Webster
Larry Csonka
Nick Pietrasonte
Ken Williard

So white running backs are nothing new.

But....McCaffrey has an unfair advantage, here is is grandpa at the 1960 Olympics, he is in lane one.

(NFLer to be Frank Budd/Ray Norton in two.three)
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Those crackers couldn't make a practice squad anymore

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 02:43 PM
Nobody gives a flying **** anywhere in my universe. You know who talks about black QBs, primarily? People who had issue with the Kaepernick debacle. And you know what? The NFL didn't blackball Kaepernick because he was black. In a league that supports more black people than any other, a man decided to use it as his personal dumping ground for racial injustice and at the same time desecrated the National Anthem. The NFL has made it clear to him that they will not tolerate it.

And on the same front, racial injustice does exist in society. It doesn't exist in the NFL at the QB position. The NFL and its owners have not passed on black QBs that have shown promise. They have given them opportunities. Some have flourished, many haven't. So really, drop the bullshit that people care that a QB is black. They don't. They care that the QB is good. Period.

You're great at using Google, you proved that in the past. It's your only source of knowledge.

So why this.....

Hattie McDaniel (June 10, 1893 – October 26, 1952) was an American actress of stage and screen, professional singer-songwriter, and comedian. She is best known for her role as "Mammy" in Gone with the Wind (1939), for which she won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, the first Oscar won by a black entertainer.

Why do we need to be told she was the first anything....well?

Ernest Davis (December 14, 1939 – May 18, 1963) was an American football player, a halfback who won the Heisman Trophy in 1961 and was its first African-American recipient.

So why do we care if he was the first African American....right?

How about this....

Christophe Lemaitre[1] (French pronunciation: ​[kʁistɔf ləmɛtʁ]; born 11 June 1990) is a French sprinter who specialises in the 100 and 200 metres. In 2010, Lemaitre became the first white athlete to break the 10-second barrier in an officially timed 100 m event. He remained the only one to achieve the feat until joined by Ramil Guliyev and Filippo Tortu. Lemaitre has run a sub-10 second 100m on seven occasions: three times in 2010 and four times in 2011. He won a bronze medal in the 4 × 100 m relay at the 2012 London Olympic Games and in the 200 metres at the Rio 2016 Summer Olympics.

So tell me why do we care about him being white....right?

Dude, you are so wrong it's comical


Here have another......

Jack Roosevelt Robinson (January 31, 1919 – October 24, 1972) was an American professional baseball player who became the first African American to play in Major League Baseball (MLB) in the modern era.[1] Robinson broke the baseball color line when he started at first base for the Brooklyn Dodgers on April 15, 1947.[2] When the Dodgers signed Robinson, they heralded the end of racial segregation in professional baseball that had relegated black players to the Negro leagues since the 1880s.[3] Robinson was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1962.[4]

You sure nobody gives a fuck?

Deberg_1990
02-16-2020, 02:51 PM
The NFL truly needs more Asian quarterbacks.

Why do they always pass on those guys in the draft?

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 02:52 PM
Those crackers couldn't make a practice squad anymore

John Riggins would still be 240 pounds and a former Kansas sprint champ.

kccrow
02-16-2020, 02:53 PM
So why this.....

Hattie McDaniel (June 10, 1893 – October 26, 1952) was an American actress of stage and screen, professional singer-songwriter, and comedian. She is best known for her role as "Mammy" in Gone with the Wind (1939), for which she won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, the first Oscar won by a black entertainer.

Why do we need to be told she was the first anything....well?

Ernest Davis (December 14, 1939 – May 18, 1963) was an American football player, a halfback who won the Heisman Trophy in 1961 and was its first African-American recipient.

So why do we care if he was the first African American....right?

How about this....

They were firsts. Breakthroughs into a world where African-Americans previously weren't allowed.

Talking about a "black" NFL QB now? Ridiculous. There have been hundreds. There have been great ones, good ones, average ones, shitty ones, completely incompetent busts, etc.

What now makes mention of it more redeeming? Because there are more good ones now than there has been in the past?

At what point are you satiated? When they are all black? Would that make it somehow a greater accomplishment?

I really don't understand why you're pushing on this. What's the agenda? You are devoid of any substance here other than reciting Google results of the past. Why does it matter? Perhaps that's the biggest question. And, why does it matter to you?

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 02:54 PM
The NFL truly needs more Asian quarterbacks.

Why do they always pass on those guys in the draft?

We just saw history made in the SEC last track season.....

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Brown is from Japan

RealSNR
02-16-2020, 02:54 PM
The NFL truly needs more Asian quarterbacks.

Why do they always pass on those guys in the draft?

The NFL totally blackballed Timmy Chang

kccrow
02-16-2020, 02:56 PM
The NFL truly needs more Asian quarterbacks.

Why do they always pass on those guys in the draft?

I agree. I want to see some 5'1" dude out there pull some Jackie Chan flip move over an O-lineman and toss a football like a ninjitsu throwing star 40 yards downfield for a TD.

Shit, that's racist, isn't it.

Easy 6
02-16-2020, 02:56 PM
Where's PB at? He's an expert on issues like this

Oh yeah, he is THE voice this conversation demands

Easy 6
02-16-2020, 02:59 PM
They were firsts. Breakthroughs into a world where African-Americans previously weren't allowed.

Talking about a "black" NFL QB now? Ridiculous. There have been hundreds. There have been great ones, good ones, average ones, shitty ones, completely incompetent busts, etc.

What now makes mention of it more redeeming? Because there are more good ones now than there has been in the past?

At what point are you satiated? When they are all black? Would that make it somehow a greater accomplishment?

I really don't understand why you're pushing on this. What's the agenda? You are devoid of any substance here other than reciting Google results of the past. Why does it matter? Perhaps that's the biggest question. And, why does it matter to you?

I asked these same questions earlier, it seems to be a black superiority issue with him

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 03:03 PM
They were firsts. Breakthroughs into a world where African-Americans previously weren't allowed.

Talking about a "black" NFL QB now? Ridiculous. There have been hundreds. There have been great ones, good ones, average ones, shitty ones, completely incompetent busts, etc.

What now makes mention of it more redeeming? Because there are more good ones now than there has been in the past?

At what point are you satiated? When they are all black? Would that make it somehow a greater accomplishment?

I really don't understand why you're pushing on this. What's the agenda? You are devoid of any substance here other than reciting Google results of the past. Why does it matter? Perhaps that's the biggest question. And, why does it matter to you?

Anytine 4/5% of a nations populations dominates anything it's interesting as to how is that is possible, I find it very interesting. You don't have to waste your time on it, right?

There is a thread here about Long John Silvers, being that doesn't interest me I stay out, see how it works?

JohnnyV13
02-16-2020, 03:05 PM
There actually WAS a part Asian NFL quarterback.

50 years ago, Filipino-American QB Roman Gabriel won the NFL MVP for the Rams in 1969.

njchiefs
02-16-2020, 03:05 PM
The NFL truly needs more Asian quarterbacks.

Why do they always pass on those guys in the draft?

Roman Gabriel was Filipino.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 03:06 PM
I agree. I want to see some 5'1" dude out there pull some Jackie Chan flip move over an O-lineman and toss a football like a ninjitsu throwing star 40 yards downfield for a TD.

Shit, that's racist, isn't it.



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JohnnyV13
02-16-2020, 03:08 PM
Roman Gabriel was Filipino.

HA! I just beat you by a hair. Course, I was probably quicker on the draw b/c I know all about Roman Gabriel since I'm also Filipino American. Knew all about him when I was a little kid.

Perineum Ripper
02-16-2020, 03:08 PM
Here is something for you to look into. Why is the percentage of black athletes falling in the MLB?


They went from13-14% to 7-8%



Anytime 4/5% of a nation’s population loses ground like that in 20 years, it’s interesting as to how/why that is possible.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 03:09 PM
I asked these same questions earlier, it seems to be a black superiority issue with him

It's more a common sense thing actually. Samoans are huge, Filipinos are small, western Africans are fast, eastern Africans can run all day, etc.

Watching how people try tn deal with simply how things are, yep, entertaining.

JohnnyV13
02-16-2020, 03:10 PM
Personally, I think it's complete racism that there aren't any Filipino centers in the NBA.

I think I should sue. Racism has cheated me out of the chance to pursue my desired career.

Demonpenz
02-16-2020, 03:10 PM
no one cares about black qb's 234 posts into a thread

PAChiefsGuy
02-16-2020, 03:12 PM
I like how some on here are acting like racism doesn't exist and are making a joke out of it by talking about Asians.

Pretty shameful if you ask me.

Demonpenz
02-16-2020, 03:13 PM
Here is something for you to look into. Why is the percentage of black athletes falling in the MLB?


They went from13-14% to 7-8%



Anytime 4/5% of a nation’s population loses ground like that in 20 years, it’s interesting as to how/why that is possible.

Baseball is fucking expensive and black people are poor. Black people also can't find huge open fields in urban area's. Baseball is also boring and basketball is just cheap, flows like jazz and hip hop. Baseball is like the fucking charlston

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 03:23 PM
no one cares about black qb's 234 posts into a thread

Movies...

The White Tiger.......white QB at Grambling
The Jackie Robinson Story......first black in MLB
Forget the name but the story of Ernie Davis the first black Heisman winner
What was the name of that movie about Texas Western with five starting black players winning the NCAA?
Remembr the Titans.....black and white HS footballers get stuck on the same team

SI called Don Delillo's...ENDZONE....the best fiction ever written about college football. It is the story of an all white Texas College named Logos State and the schools first black football player Taft Robinson....

"but mostly he could fly, he had sprint speed, a 9.3 clocking at 100 yards, speed that black gift that thrills millions"

Something like that,

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 03:26 PM
Baseball is ****ing expensive and black people are poor. Black people also can't find huge open fields in urban area's. Baseball is also boring and basketball is just cheap, flows like jazz and hip hop. Baseball is like the ****ing charlston

So how did the old negro leagues survive?

I think more black athletes today would rather do other sports.

Russell Wilson...choose football
Kyler Murray.....choose football

I think that's the norm.

Mennonite
02-16-2020, 03:30 PM
So how did the old negro leagues survive?





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Demonpenz
02-16-2020, 03:33 PM
So how did the old negro leagues survive?

I think more black athletes today would rather do other sports.

Russell Wilson...choose football
Kyler Murray.....choose football

I think that's the norm.

where it starts is money though. That is why soccer is so big. Some aids invested country rolls up a bunch of 49er champion Scarves and they start kicking it around until on the 11th birthday they are given an AK47 and sent to genicide some other country

Perineum Ripper
02-16-2020, 03:43 PM
Then why do these poor Latin countries pump out baseball players at high rates

njchiefs
02-16-2020, 04:15 PM
HA! I just beat you by a hair. Course, I was probably quicker on the draw b/c I know all about Roman Gabriel since I'm also Filipino American. Knew all about him when I was a little kid.

Same here. Father was from Manila. He loved Roman Gabriel.

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 04:21 PM
where it starts is money though. That is why soccer is so big. Some aids invested country rolls up a bunch of 49er champion Scarves and they start kicking it around until on the 11th birthday they are given an AK47 and sent to genicide some other country

I have a lot of black friends, all love basketball, then football, nobody ever talks baseball.

I am an historian of blacks in sport so can talk Cool Papa Bell, Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige, Jackie Robinson, Mayes, McCovery, Davis, but not a baseball fan.

Mennonite
02-16-2020, 04:27 PM
Father was from Manila.

Hey, I'm a big fan of what you guys did with those folders. Big fan.

/white person trying to be friendly

Demonpenz
02-16-2020, 04:33 PM
Then why do these poor Latin countries pump out baseball players at high rates

the DR is the only country with a high rate

Ubeja Vontell
02-16-2020, 04:35 PM
When I read.....who gives a **** about race.

Why do we constantly see this kind of thing?

Charley Frank Pride (born March 18, 1934[1]) is an American singer, musician, guitarist, business owner, and former professional baseball player. His greatest musical success came in the early to mid-1970s, when he became the best-selling performer for RCA Records since Elvis Presley.[4] During the peak years of his recording career (1966–87), he garnered 52 top-10 hits on the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart, 30 of which made it to number one.

Pride is one of the few African-Americans to have enjoyed considerable success in the country music industry and one of only three (along with DeFord Bailey and Darius Rucker) to become a member of the Grand Ole Opry. He was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame in 2000.

In 2010, Pride became a special investor and minority owner of the Texas Rangers Major League Baseball club.[5]

Apparently it is important.

Easy 6
02-16-2020, 04:40 PM
See, this is where you lose everyone

What the hell does Charley Pride have to do with black QBs?