63 more offensive holding penalties have been called than 2018

[BlackOp]

I'm just posting this for posterity....and have a time stamp.

63 more offensive holding penalties have been called (77.8 percent increase) than this time last year.

This is the first season where the NFL openly admitted to having a partnership with Vegas.

You want to control the Over/Under...just call holding when a team makes a positive play.

20 penalties tonight...

Funny how people accept that NE had 0 penalties in the AFCCG vs. the Jags...then against KC in prime time....then AGAIN against the Jags. Two consecutive match-ups against the same opponent where Patriots got zero flags...has that ever happened?

If you follow the timeline...Patriots had 3 games with zero penalties in an 8 game span...over two seasons.

[Titty Meat]

Did we get Ramsey yet?

[eDave]

Damn near made tonight's game unbearable.

Tom Brady agrees.

[Why Not?]

Makes the games hard to watch. Also, they should just go ahead and ban kick and punt returns. Not sure I’ve seen one this year that hasn’t been flagged.

[jaa1025]

They've needed to address holding for a long time. I'm glad they are finally doing it. It was painful to watch last night but maybe linemen will stop holding.

[eDave]

They've needed to address holding for a long time. I'm glad they are finally doing it. It was painful to watch last night but maybe linemen will stop holding.

What's the ratio of defensive holding vs. offensive holding? Feels like defense holds more. QBs are going to get more time.

[Deberg_1990]

Yes. Strange.

It seems like the last several years before this one they have backed off a lot on holding calls. They typically want the offenses to be successful. What gives?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

It's a deceiving stat because Boller has already been called 63 times for holding.

[notorious]

Brady finds it hard to watch because he rarely sees holding penalties when he plays.

[notorious]

A New England linemen will come in the league as shit, get “coached up” (wink), turn into cornerstone, stalwart blockers, yet when they go to another team they return to being pieces of shit.

Yeah. Right.

[stevieray]

There have been over 600 flags two games in.

:shake:

[Mecca]

Holding is one of their "emphasis" moves of this year, especially on the backside of holding plays.

[eDave]

There have been over 600 flags two games in.

:shake:

I mean, what's the point of playing?

[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those who are wondering ... the NFL has made increasing holding calls a priority this offseason. That’s why there so many. Has nothing to do w/less practice time or more guys w/poor technique. They are actively looking for opportunities to flag anyone for holding.</p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1174859492120506368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[eDave]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those who are wondering ... the NFL has made increasing holding calls a priority this offseason. That’s why there so many. Has nothing to do w/less practice time or more guys w/poor technique. They are actively looking for opportunities to flag anyone for holding.</p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1174859492120506368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Refs get more control. Wonderful.

[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If officials are going to be this strict with holding calls, just be prepared for the unders to keep hitting. They are clearly looking for them and it doesn’t matter anymore if the holding is near the play. Just anywhere on the field.</p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1174855505946324993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If we are calling this slingshot a holding, I hope the officials are just as eager to flag DTs holding us on double teams. I get it, no “lobster” blocks but this isn’t a lobster block. This is getting out of hand. <a href="https://t.co/pRcqVDHyd1">pic.twitter.com/pRcqVDHyd1</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1174319776598056960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Defensive coaches asked for more holdings to be called. Can’t be upset when they comply with the request. <a href="https://t.co/tYvEWfLVIa">https://t.co/tYvEWfLVIa</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1174354704664616961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Mecca]

I think that explains where the league is with holding right now.

[staylor26]

Is that why the Steelers have been so bad? Lol

And I wonder if they’ll actually call NE’s patchwork OL consistently for it.

[jjchieffan]

Tamba Hali sees this and considers a comeback. That poor guy was held practically every play.

[tatorhog]

The OL is under more scrutiny so you have a better chance of getting sacks


oh, by the way.


Don't hit the quarterback.

[-King-]

Yes. Strange.

It seems like the last several years before this one they have backed off a lot on holding calls. They typically want the offenses to be successful. What gives?

Overcorrection because people have been saying how much the game is geared toward offense these days.

[jettio]

Most of the calls I have seen actually were holding, so complaining about the quantity and blaming it on the referees instead of the coaches and players is wrong.

Is the NFL an inner city elementary school we’re the teachers just give up on having an orderly classroom because the kids wear them down?

How about coach the players to stop cheating?

[kcclone]

Most of the calls I have seen actually were holding, so complaining about the quantity and blaming it on the referees instead of the coaches and players is wrong.

Is the NFL an inner city elementary school we’re the teachers just give up on having an orderly classroom because the kids wear them down?

How about coach the players to stop cheating?


If there is a holding call on every run play, eventually teams will stop running completely.

Is that a good thing for football?

As people have said for ages, there is some holding on just about every play.

If they over emphasize holding, football will quickly become 100% shotgun quick passes.

Not sure I want to see that evolution.

[stevieray]

WR's have been pushing off for a decade at least.


I mean blatant, and the refs and announcers just ignore it.

[lcarus]

Makes the games hard to watch. Also, they should just go ahead and ban kick and punt returns. Not sure I’ve seen one this year that hasn’t been flagged.

I think that's what they're trying to do. Call a penalty on every kick and punt return to make them pointless. I hate it. They need to move kickoffs back to where they used to be. Returns are an exciting aspect of the game and they're trying to get rid of it. They say they're trying to prevent injuries but most of those special teams guys don't play otherwise so I think they're ok with the risk.

[lcarus]

Most of the calls I have seen actually were holding, so complaining about the quantity and blaming it on the referees instead of the coaches and players is wrong.

Is the NFL an inner city elementary school we’re the teachers just give up on having an orderly classroom because the kids wear them down?

How about coach the players to stop cheating?

They probably coach linemen to hold if they get beat. The risk of getting called for holding is better than your QB getting smashed and possibly fumbling or throwing a pick.

[Halfcan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those who are wondering ... the NFL has made increasing holding calls a priority this offseason. That’s why there so many. Has nothing to do w/less practice time or more guys w/poor technique. They are actively looking for opportunities to flag anyone for holding.</p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1174859492120506368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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New England fans can disregard this tweet.

Don't worry fans, if Brady is so much as looked at wrong- that will still be a 15 yard roughing the passer penalty which will get you a win.

[jjchieffan]

It's funny reading the reactions of everyone that is upset about it. I just wonder if they're okay with Frank Clark and Chris Jones getting held every play, or if they were okay when it was Houston and Hali constantly being robbed of sacks by holding linemen. There is a picture floating around here of Hali literally in a chokehold and it wasn't called. Are you okay with that going on? I, for one, am glad to see them finally doing something about it.

[007]

New England fans can disregard this tweet.



Don't worry fans, if Brady is so much as looked at wrong- that will still be a 15 yard roughing the passer penalty which will get you a win.Mr. Brady, you have some lint on your shoulder. Let me brush that off for you.

Ref throws flag for roughing the passer.

[Rain Man]

New England fans can disregard this tweet.

Don't worry fans, if Brady is so much as looked at wrong- that will still be a 15 yard roughing the passer penalty which will get you a win.

Brady finds it hard to watch because he rarely sees holding penalties when he plays.

Well, the Patriots...uh...

It's a deceiving stat because Bolles has already been called 63 times for holding.

But Garrett Bolles has ... uh ...


Dang. I'm too late with all the good jokes.

[jjchieffan]

Guess how man times the Patriots have been called for holding? Twice.

In comparison, Kansas City already has been called 7 times. Jacksonville has 10 through 3 games, next highest is Washington with 8.

http://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/offensive-holding?year=2019

[Rain Man]

Guess how man times the Patriots have been called for holding? Twice.

In comparison, Kansas City already has been called 7 times. Jacksonville has 12 through 3 games, next highest is Washington with 8.

http://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/offensive-holding?year=2019


The refs don't like telling defenders to get off Tom.

[patteeu]

Holding is one of their "emphasis" moves of this year, especially on the backside of holding plays.

LMAO But we know what you mean.

[MahiMike]

I KNEW it!

[Iowanian]

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[crayzkirk]

Conspiracy!

[AdolfOliverBush]

Guess how man times the Patriots have been called for holding? Twice.

In comparison, Kansas City already has been called 7 times. Jacksonville has 10 through 3 games, next highest is Washington with 8.

http://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/offensive-holding?year=2019

To be fair, there are several other teams with 2 holding penalties. Buffalo only has 1. Oddly, most of the teams with the fewest holding penalties are dog shit.

[Rain Man]

To be fair, there are several other teams with 2 holding penalties. Buffalo only has 1. Oddly, most of the teams with the fewest holding penalties are dog shit.

So they're only calling the holding penalties against the teams that are a threat to the Patriots. That makes a ton of sense.

I really think that 20 years from now some ref in a retirement home will fess up that the Patriots bought them all off.

[Tombstone RJ]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those who are wondering ... the NFL has made increasing holding calls a priority this offseason. That’s why there so many. Has nothing to do w/less practice time or more guys w/poor technique. They are actively looking for opportunities to flag anyone for holding.</p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1174859492120506368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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If the priority is to keep QBs healthy, that is, limit hits, why throw more flags for holding against the OL? You'd think the refs would allow tricky-tack holding by the offensive line go.

[DaFace]

WR's have been pushing off for a decade at least.


I mean blatant, and the refs and announcers just ignore it.

You can challenge that these days, so not much of an excuse anymore.

[manchambo]

It's nice to see that Garrett Bolles is only responsible for about half of the increase.