The game-winning drive

[Hammock Parties]

This deserves it's own thread.

Patrick was cool, calm, collected, accurate and surgical. He forced that pass to Watkins, other than that, he just dissected the defense and found the open man.

Beautiful.

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Mahomes led the team down the field to win the game, leaving only 20 seconds on the clock. Legendary.

[mnchiefsguy]

Credit to Mahomes.

Worst game of his career so far, but he put it together on the final drive to win it.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Pretty much perfectly timed too.

[Red Dawg]

Clutch drive by Mahomes that showed once again he has ice in veins. Cool under pressure.

[Hammock Parties]

Credit to Mahomes.

Worst game of his career so far, but he put it together on the final drive to win it.

worst game and still fucked around and threw for 300

[cdcox]

I love his 4th down run. Just took it into his own hands.

[carcosa]

It feels so good to have confidence in a Chiefs QB to lead a game winning drive like that

[smithandrew051]

This reminded me a lot of the Ravens game from last year.

Play like shit most of the game and Mahomes takes us down the field in the clutch late.

[Jewish Rabbi]

That video makes me HORNY!!

[Chieftain]

I wanna see this repeated in the playoffs against New England.

[RunKC]

Another notch on Mahomes belt in the “win when giving up 24 or more” stat

[Pitt Gorilla]

It was disappointing to watch Chief Fan completely give/pucker up and concede the game, as though Pat isn’t our QB.

[2bikemike]

At first I thought Patricia taking their T.O.'s on that final drive was kinda foolish. But in the end I think it was pretty smart.

[MMXcalibur]

Props to Pringle for holding on to the ball on that second hit.
That had "fumbled ball shooting the opposite way down the field" written alllllll over it.

[Rain Man]

Props to Pringle for holding on to the ball on that second hit.
That had "fumbled ball shooting the opposite way down the field" written alllllll over it.

Yeah, that was very impressive. He took such a hard hit by surprise that I was honestly expecting to see the ball come out. But he won the day.

[Sorce]

I wanna see this repeated in the playoffs against New England.I wanna see us both undefeated in the regular season with a close game like this with us winning. In the playoffs I want their soul in a blowout.

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[Hammock Parties]

Another notch on Mahomes belt in the “win when giving up 24 or more” stat

9-4

the best record in league history

[carcosa]

At first I thought Patricia taking their T.O.'s on that final drive was kinda foolish. But in the end I think it was pretty smart.

Felt like an online Madden game where the other guy knows you're gonna score so they're planning ahead for their own last chance drive

[kysirsoze]

That play where he hits Kelce late... There's been a lot of talk about Mahomes looking like a point guard out there and this may be the best example yet. Just the way he moves in the pocket to keep the pressure off balance. Incredible.

[Rain Man]

That fourth down play was so clutch. But I had no doubt that we would win. Patrick Mahomes II does not lose.

[carcosa]

That fourth down play was so clutch. But I had no doubt that we would win. Patrick Mahomes II does not lose.

Same!

[FloridaMan88]

That 4th down play showed the growth in Mahomes from last year.

I think last year he tries to force a spectacular play downfield... today he takes what the defense gives him and the drive/comeback remains alive.

[Hammock Parties]

That fourth down play was so clutch. But I had no doubt that we would win. Patrick Mahomes II does not lose.

It's quite true. He just runs out of time.

[Hoover]

Chiefs are 4-0, and we have already won 3 road games.

Someone pinch me, I must be dreaming.

[Dartgod]

I wanna see this repeated in the playoffs against New England.

We've already seen that. Then the defense shit the bed.

[DRM08]

At first I thought Patricia taking their T.O.'s on that final drive was kinda foolish. But in the end I think it was pretty smart.

It helped both teams, haha

[stevieray]

Kelce juking the defense to get out of bounds was huge.

[TinyEvel]

It was awesome. Our boys are some tough MoFo's.

Look at Kelce's face after that catch where he ran out of bounds. He looks dizzy and gassed. I bet he was getting mauled the entire game like the AFCCCG.

And Pringle holding onto the ball after his catch was unbelievable.

[highBOLTage]

At first I thought Patricia taking their T.O.'s on that final drive was kinda foolish. But in the end I think it was pretty smart.

It definitely made it harder on his defense. The defense had to play run and pass, it could have made them defend more plays and it took away the chance for Andy Reid to show off his clock mismanagement skills. He should've waited until the Chiefs used their last and react from there.

[BWillie]

Blocked

[Hammock Parties]

Chiefs are 4-0, and we have already won 3 road games.

Someone pinch me, I must be dreaming.

Reid is so good on the road early in the year.

7 home games and only 5 on the road the rest of the year....fucking nice

[Simply Red]

Kelce juking the defense to get out of bounds was huge.


yes and furthermore doing so while gassed. Kelce was exhausted that last series.

Kadoos

[siberian khatru]

yes and furthermore doing so while gassed. Kelce was exhausted that last series.

Kadoos

Yep, told the wife the same right after that play.

[Molitoth]

Notice the receivers are covering the ball with both hands on that drive.

Someone must have gotten into them about protecting the ball after the 3rd fucking punched fumble.

[displacedinMN]

Damn Impressive.

[Pointer19]

I love his 4th down run. Just took it into his own hands.


Moments before the fourth down play... major eggplant moment.
https://ibb.co/MsHMqzJ

[stevieray]

yes and furthermore doing so while gassed. Kelce was exhausted that last series.

Kadoos

..the LB's pounded on him all day.

This was a wacky, but great win.

[rabblerouser]

The final drive was so clutch. I love Mahomes so much...the run on 4th down, the Pringle pass...the throw to Kelce.

[rabblerouser]

At first I thought Patricia taking their T.O.'s on that final drive was kinda foolish. But in the end I think it was pretty smart.

He actually called the perfect game. Reid & Co. got outcoached for 55 minutes of the game. The Lions played the exact game they wanted to play...there wasn't much more that the Lions staff could have done, but in the end...Mahomes is just too good.

[TEX]

The final drive was so clutch. I love Mahomes so much...the run on 4th down, the Pringle pass...the throw to Kelce.

Yep, and the best part about it was we KNEW it was coming, because THAT'S WHO MAHOMES IS!

[wazu]

The scramble on 4th and 8 was amazing. Just can't appreciate enough the fact that we have a QB who makes plays when we need them the most.

[Hammock Parties]

The scramble on 4th and 8 was amazing. Just can't appreciate enough the fact that we have a QB who makes plays when we need them the most.

I actually think Mahomes is a better scrambler than Alex.

Two reasons.

1. He has better change of direction, even if he is slower.

2. The defense is defending him throwing the ball more. So when he runs, it's usually going to catch them off guard.

[chiefzilla1501]

I actually think Mahomes is a better scrambler than Alex.

Two reasons.

1. He has better change of direction, even if he is slower.

2. The defense is defending him throwing the ball more. So when he runs, it's usually going to catch them off guard.

Hes also bigger and has far more situational awareness. Alex Smith did not have good pocket presence at all. Many times he'd scramble right into the belly of the pass rush.

[rabblerouser]

I actually think Mahomes is a better scrambler than Alex.

Two reasons.

1. He has better change of direction, even if he is slower.

2. The defense is defending him throwing the ball more. So when he runs, it's usually going to catch them off guard.
I don't think there's any point in comparing Mahomes to anyone else ever again.

[DRM08]

He actually called the perfect game. Reid & Co. got outcoached for 55 minutes of the game. The Lions played the exact game they wanted to play...there wasn't much more that the Lions staff could have done, but in the end...Mahomes is just too good.

Patricia also got unlucky at the goal line. Two fumbles cost his team 14 points and one of them returned 100 yards the other way for a Chiefs TD. 21 point swing on goal line fumbles by Detroit offense, haha

[rabblerouser]

Patricia also got unlucky at the goal line. Two fumbles cost his team 14 points and one of them returned 100 yards the other way for a Chiefs TD. 21 point swing on goal line fumbles by Detroit offense, haha

That's the type of shit that used to happen to us.

I remember this game at Dallas in 2005, LJ whiffed on a block, and Scott ****ing Fajita blew Trent up hard when we were going into their side of the field, the ball was returned for a TD. We still had a chance to win, but missed a FG as time expired.

We outplayed them the entire game, except for 2 plays.

Thems the breaks.

Glad to be on this side of it these days.

[petegz28]

Picked the best time to have arguably our best drive of the game

[wazu]

I actually think Mahomes is a better scrambler than Alex.

Two reasons.

1. He has better change of direction, even if he is slower.

2. The defense is defending him throwing the ball more. So when he runs, it's usually going to catch them off guard.

Yep. They fear his arm. I feel like this is the one aspect of Mahomes game that can actually still improve. He's fast and athletic. Scrambling for easy first downs is a thing he can do more often as long as he isn't letting himself get hit.

[Red Dawg]

He's got the clutch gene. He's done it more than once and a few times walked off the field with the lead only to watch the defense lose it.

[TambaBerry]

Just a hell of a throw and play by both mahomes and Pringle. Props to mahomes for putting trust in him

[ghak99]

Just noticed Robinson didn't even run a route on the 1st & 10 with 1:30 left. Can't imagine it was drawn up like that.

Kelce had absolutely nothing left in the tank, but still floated back into a zone gap after having his route blown up.

[WhiteWhale]

I actually think Mahomes is a better scrambler than Alex.

Two reasons.

1. He has better change of direction, even if he is slower.

2. The defense is defending him throwing the ball more. So when he runs, it's usually going to catch them off guard.

Right, and he's not a 'panic scrambler' like Smith, which resulted in a lot of 1 and 2 yard sacks and 1 and 2 yard runs. Mahomes is far more calculating overall when he's out of the pocket or on the move climbing the pocket.

Teams kinda could squat on Smith's rushing in big moments, but you can't do that with Mahomes because he's way too much of a threat with his arm even when he's running.

[Rain Man]

On a minor note, I still kinda think that Darrel was over the goal line on that first run. It turned out to be better for us that he wasn't given the touchdown, but I think he was over the goal line.

[stevieray]

Right, and he's not a 'panic scrambler' like Smith, which resulted in a lot of 1 and 2 yard sacks and 1 and 2 yard runs. Mahomes is far more calculating overall when he's out of the pocket or on the move climbing the pocket.

Teams kinda could squat on Smith's rushing in big moments, but you can't do that with Mahomes because he's way too much of a threat with his arm even when he's running.

:rolleyes:

Smith did a lot of things wrong, but scrambling wasn't one of them.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Patricia also got unlucky at the goal line. Two fumbles cost his team 14 points and one of them returned 100 yards the other way for a Chiefs TD. 21 point swing on goal line fumbles by Detroit offense, haha

Patricia was unlucky per the above, but he was very lucky that the Chiefs gifted him the ball with 3 fumbles inside their own territory in the 3rd quarter.

Also, the Stafford fumble was on 3rd down and would have been a FG try...

[Hammock Parties]

:rolleyes:

Smith did a lot of things wrong, but scrambling wasn't one of them.

nevar forget

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[WhiteWhale]

:rolleyes:

Smith did a lot of things wrong, but scrambling wasn't one of them.

If that's what you think I said, read it again.

There's a reason Smith was sacked 40 times a year. There were a lot of 'bad panic scrambles' in his time here, and a lot of them were in big moments of playoff games.

[WhiteWhale]

nevar forget

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Thank you. My point exactly.

[Discuss Thrower]

nevar forget

gifs of Smith Fails

That game is probably the singular most impactful teaching moment Alex imparted onto Pat in being a case study on what not to do in a home playoff game against a very beatable opponent.

[DRM08]

Right, and he's not a 'panic scrambler' like Smith, which resulted in a lot of 1 and 2 yard sacks and 1 and 2 yard runs. Mahomes is far more calculating overall when he's out of the pocket or on the move climbing the pocket.

Teams kinda could squat on Smith's rushing in big moments, but you can't do that with Mahomes because he's way too much of a threat with his arm even when he's running.

Pat is a very smooth, natural guy scrambling around. He reminds me of Tarkenton. He has eyes in the back of his head, knows how to dodge pressure, really good quick feet, and amazing vision downfield.

It's a dangerous package for defenses. He even pulls out pump fakes after going past the line of scrimmage and defenders fall for it because they are afraid of him throwing it downfield.

[rabblerouser]

nevar forget

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STOP IT!

I WANT TO FORGET!

'FORWARD PROGRESS"

[stevieray]

If that's what you think I said, read it again.

There's a reason Smith was sacked 40 times a year. There were a lot of 'bad panic scrambles' in his time here, and a lot of them were in big moments of playoff games.

and there were plenty of first down scrambles as well.

Let's not pretend he wasn't known for being a good scrambler.

Besides it's all moot at this point.

[stevieray]

That game is probably the singular most impactful teaching moment Alex imparted onto Pat in being a case study on what not to do in a home playoff game against a very beatable opponent.

olinemen too

[WhiteWhale]

and there were plenty of first down scrambles as well.

Let's not pretend he wasn't known for being a good scrambler.

Besides it's all moot at this point.

I didn't say he was a bad scrambler, I said Patrick Mahomes is more effective and efficient when scrambling and you got all 'Oohhhh, so you're saying he sucks at scrambling."

Stop insisting to me what my opinion is. I know perfectly well what I think.

[rabblerouser]

Picked the best time to have arguably our best drive of the game

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[Hammock Parties]

Patricia has been making that face since 2017.

Reid owns him.

[rabblerouser]

Patricia has been making that face since 2017.

Reid owns him.

I remember a MNF game from 2014 where Reid put straight clown shows on Patricia.

[Tribal Warfare]

Just noticed Robinson didn't even run a route on the 1st & 10 with 1:30 left. Can't imagine it was drawn up like that.

Kelce had absolutely nothing left in the tank, but still floated back into a zone gap after having his route blown up.

As I said before it seemed like Hardman and Robinson were lost and running wrong patterns and routes hence why Patrick was pissed.

Did they decide ton

[Clyde Frog]

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Why does he have a pencil in his ear when he has a laminated play sheet? :hmmm:

[Chiefspants]

See, if today were a Smith playoff game - many would be blaming the bad touchdowns call for the loss if Smith didn’t convert on the 4th & 8. Perhaps even saying that wouldn’t have been counted as a TD if the Chiefs had an elite QB (due to NFL rigging).

Today shows those bad calls do happen to even elite teams, and Mahomes showed just how important it truly is to have a star QB.

[stevieray]

I didn't say he was a bad scrambler, I said Patrick Mahomes is more effective and efficient when scrambling and you got all 'Oohhhh, so you're saying he sucks at scrambling."

Stop insisting to me what my opinion is. I know perfectly well what I think.

:rolleyes:

[-King-]

I can't believe Pringle hung on to that pass after the day we'd had. Drive was the definition of clutch.

[Hammock Parties]

:rolleyes:

Steve, he's right.

Alex used scrambling as a crutch, and in key moments it hurt him. Especially in the playoffs against Pittsburgh and Tennessee.

[Hammock Parties]

I can't believe Pringle hung on to that pass after the day we'd had. Drive was the definition of clutch.

Robinson ain't getting paid.

Pringle will replace him.

[O.city]

I can't believe Pringle hung on to that pass after the day we'd had. Drive was the definition of clutch.

When he was spinning and got hit, I just knew the ball was gonna come flying out of there.

[rabblerouser]

Steve, he's right.

Alex used scrambling as a crutch, and in key moments it hurt him. Especially in the playoffs against Pittsburgh and Tennessee.

It was his ill-fated scrambling - as well as his inability to take advantage of a wide-open Tyreek 35 yards downfield - in that Pittsburgh playoff game that got Mahomes drafted.

Remember that...if Alex had played better, Reid and Dorsey may not have ever listened to Veach about Mahomes...

[Marcellus]

Saw this comment on an article on the Athletic-


Why does this have to be about Mahomes? There were some really great performances by Chiefs players and none of them were wearing 15. He was dragged to victory by his team this time round and this, sir, is clickbait.


Which moronic poster is this?

[DJ's left nut]

Props to Pringle for holding on to the ball on that second hit.
That had "fumbled ball shooting the opposite way down the field" written alllllll over it.

Yup - he deserves a ton of credit for that. Kelce also deserves some credit after his stop move; he got past the 35 or so and immediately put both arms around the ball and just braced for impact. The ball control was outstanding.

And while most of the Chiefs struggles were self-inflicted on Sunday, the Lions tackling was exceptional. Even on that last drive there were 2 or 3 plays that are one guy missing a tackle away from going for another 15+ yards. Williams had one guy to miss to keep going on the underneath throw. The screen pass was one more missed tackle away from going a lot longer (I think Hardman missed his block there) and then the Hardman play was also one miss away.

On turf you expect to see some of these waterbugs get a guy to miss here and there but the Lions were all over it. They really tackled well and that took a lot of the big plays out of the equation. A lot of teams think "we'll keep the play in front of us and neutralize the Chiefs big-play offense" but they still give up big plays when the first guy in misses the tackle. The Lions, OTOH, kept the play in front of them all day and immediately made the stick. They really made KC work for it on the rare occasions that the offense was finding traction.

As an aside, I actually thought they got in on the FIRST carry but that Williams knee was on the ground before Reiter hit him to drive him across the plane on the 2nd. I think the officials got both calls wrong, to be honest.

[chiefzilla1501]

As I said before it seemed like Hardman and Robinson were lost and running wrong patterns and routes hence why Patrick was pissed.

Did they decide ton

I agree. It's why I've said before I don't think Robinson is anything more than a scramble drill role receiver. Which I'll gladly take. But I want him as our #3 or 4, not as our #2. We need tyreek back so we can bump all our WRs down one spot.

[Baby Lee]

I wonder if Brad Pitt spent his entire marriage to Angelina Jolie grousing about what a frigid bitch Jen was.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Saw this comment on an article on the Athletic-





Which moronic poster is this?

Sandy came back from the dead

[DJ's left nut]

As I said before it seemed like Hardman and Robinson were lost and running wrong patterns and routes hence why Patrick was pissed.

Did they decide ton

And Watkins seemed largely indifferent for a lot of the game.

The WRs were the worst part of the squad on Sunday, IMO. It's hard to be 100% sure if some of those miscommunications were on Mahomes or the WRs, but who are you gonna place your bets on here?

That's the first game where losing Hill REALLY hurt. A lot of things didn't work that really should've. And when the Lions were simply able to play vanilla but sound defense and make things difficult for us, you'd sure like to have Hill out there putting the fear of got into them and Mahomes trusting him to win matchups.

We clearly lacked that element on Sunday.

[rabblerouser]

And Watkins seemed largely indifferent for a lot of the game.

The WRs were the worst part of the squad on Sunday, IMO. It's hard to be 100% sure if some of those miscommunications were on Mahomes or the WRs, but who are you gonna place your bets on here?

That's the first game where losing Hill REALLY hurt. A lot of things didn't work that really should've. And when the Lions were simply able to play vanilla but sound defense and make things difficult for us, you'd sure like to have Hill out there putting the fear of got into them and Mahomes trusting him to win matchups.

We clearly lacked that element on Sunday.

To be fair, we were EXTREMELY vanilla on offense, ourselves. The biggest "wrinkle" or "surprise" was Kelce's spontaneous hook-and-ladder to my man Shady.

[Kman34]

And Watkins seemed largely indifferent for a lot of the game.

The WRs were the worst part of the squad on Sunday, IMO. It's hard to be 100% sure if some of those miscommunications were on Mahomes or the WRs, but who are you gonna place your bets on here?

That's the first game where losing Hill REALLY hurt. A lot of things didn't work that really should've. And when the Lions were simply able to play vanilla but sound defense and make things difficult for us, you'd sure like to have Hill out there putting the fear of got into them and Mahomes trusting him to win matchups.

We clearly lacked that element on Sunday.

Watkins didn’t look right to me.. looked uncomfortable on the sideline like he hurt something.. did anyone else notice that?

[rabblerouser]

Watkins didn’t look right to me.. looked uncomfortable on the sideline like he hurt something.. did anyone else notice that?

I did see him kinda gimpy headed to the sideline after an early catch.

[Mecca]

The Lions were allowed to be very physical with the receivers, our guys aren't really built to deal with that when Tyreek isn't around.

[Chiefspants]

Steve, he's right.

Alex used scrambling as a crutch, and in key moments it hurt him. Especially in the playoffs against Pittsburgh and Tennessee.

I sometimes wondered if it was pre-meditated from Alex too. He sometimes gave up on plays so quickly (even when he wasn't feeling any actual pressure) - and in some of those plays, the lineman seemed caught completely off guard that Alex was going to try to run it.

[WhiteWhale]

Steve, he's right.

Alex used scrambling as a crutch, and in key moments it hurt him. Especially in the playoffs against Pittsburgh and Tennessee.

He knows I'm right. That's why his only response was an eye roll and a stupid rep message.

[O.city]

Yesterday was the first game it looked like they really missed Hill. The WR's were struggling to get open and then Mahomes was a tick off.

Just looked like one of those games where shit doesn't work right, but they pulled it out in the end. Basically, what an elite team is supposed to do.

[Rain Man]

By the way, did anyone else's heart skip a beat on that first hail mary pass? I saw it carom off a Lion toward another Lion and then about eight guys fell down in a pile and I didn't see the ball. For a half second I thought the second Lion had managed to snag it.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

If this game would've happened 2 years ago, i wouldn't have been as calm as I was watching yesterday. This dude has completely changed everything

[suzzer99]

He took of running so soon on that 4th and 8. Perfect timing - right as everyone was moving away from the middle. I think run was his first option there.

[DJ's left nut]

He took of running so soon on that 4th and 8. Perfect timing - right as everyone was moving away from the middle. I think run was his first option there.

I think he went to the back of his drop expecting to jet, yeah.

With the Lions appearing to play in a 2-deep man, the motion is gonna give that away at the snap and Mahomes knows the route combinations and that they're likely to pull the coverage away from the middle of the field.

I think he had a pretty good idea as he's dropping back that nothing's going to miraculously open so his first read became that scramble. Had Patricia disguised that look somehow and it had ended up zone, I think Mahomes notices it and stays in his drop to find the open target.

I don't think the play call was designed to yield a run, but I think as soon as he saw the coverage, he knew it was a strong possibility and once it opened, he was off to the races.

Dude's a magician. The game just seems to slow down so much for him.

[Iconic]

Interesting that Darrel got all the snaps under 2 min and not McCoy.

He's played so well that I seriously wonder if this doesn't spell the end for Damien.

[DJ's left nut]

Interesting that Darrel got all the snaps under 2 min and not McCoy.

He's played so well that I seriously wonder if this doesn't spell the end for Damien.

I kinda feel like Reid has sent a shot across Damien's bow. He's spent a lot of time talking about how hard McCoy has been working to get out there.

Then says that nothing is structurally wrong with Damien and that he's just gotta get right or whatever.

Kinda sounds like coachspeak for "Stop being a pussy - that guys out there and you should be, too..."

[rydogg58]

I kinda feel like Reid has sent a shot across Damien's bow. He's spent a lot of time talking about how hard McCoy has been working to get out there.

Then says that nothing is structurally wrong with Damien and that he's just gotta get right or whatever.

Kinda sounds like coachspeak for "Stop being a pussy - that guys out there and you should be, too..."

I seem to recall that's the way he talked about EB's injury last season also.

[O.city]

When did he say that about Damien?

[suzzer99]

I kinda feel like Reid has sent a shot across Damien's bow. He's spent a lot of time talking about how hard McCoy has been working to get out there.

Then says that nothing is structurally wrong with Damien and that he's just gotta get right or whatever.

Kinda sounds like coachspeak for "Stop being a pussy - that guys out there and you should be, too..."

Also Darrell is "Mr. Consistency" which makes you wonder if someone else isn't as consistent.

[chiefzilla1501]

A few ramblings....
Might sound crazy, but I think tebows mic'd up in Denver was a fascinating look at a guy who mentally had that clutch "it" factor. He didn't have the physical talent to make it work. But it was fun to watch how he could fire up and lead his team in almost a nonchalant jogging pace. You don't see that even in a lot of elite qbs. Id love to see mahomes mic'd up. His body language and facial expressions make me see that same thing. Unlike Tebow, mahomes has talent to make it work. Keep in mind Rodgers was criticized for a decade for not closing games out.

I also think the Pats playoff game still stings mahomes. A lot. It reminds me of Lebron horsing around vs the mavs. Dirk nowitski took that personally and stomped the heat to win the finals. Lebron was a different player after that. He stopped with the antics and was much more mature on the court. Mahomes body language has totally changed. I saw the kelce hook and ladder and mahomes didn't celebrate... He was all business moving on to the next play. Not that he isn't still having fun. Not that he was ever as over the top as Lebron. But you see him chewing out his teammates for mistakes, you don't see as much of the dancing, you barely see any of the flashy showtime passes we saw last season. The Pats loss stung mahomes as badly as the mavs loss stung Lebron.

[ThaVirus]

I kinda feel like Reid has sent a shot across Damien's bow. He's spent a lot of time talking about how hard McCoy has been working to get out there.



Then says that nothing is structurally wrong with Damien and that he's just gotta get right or whatever.



Kinda sounds like coachspeak for "Stop being a pussy - that guys out there and you should be, too..."


IIRC, Reid made a comment during training camp or preseason about how Damien was missing valuable snaps as well.

[ThaVirus]

A few ramblings....
Might sound crazy, but I think tebows mic'd up in Denver was a fascinating look at a guy who mentally had that clutch "it" factor. He didn't have the physical talent to make it work. But it was fun to watch how he could fire up and lead his team in almost a nonchalant jogging pace. You don't see that even in a lot of elite qbs. Id love to see mahomes mic'd up. His body language and facial expressions make me see that same thing. Unlike Tebow, mahomes has talent to make it work. Keep in mind Rodgers was criticized for a decade for not closing games out.

I also think the Pats playoff game still stings mahomes. A lot. It reminds me of Lebron horsing around vs the mavs. Dirk nowitski took that personally and stomped the heat to win the finals. Lebron was a different player after that. He stopped with the antics and was much more mature on the court. Mahomes body language has totally changed. I saw the kelce hook and ladder and mahomes didn't celebrate... He was all business moving on to the next play. Not that he isn't still having fun. Not that he was ever as over the top as Lebron. But you see him chewing out his teammates for mistakes, you don't see as much of the dancing, you barely see any of the flashy showtime passes we saw last season. The Pats loss stung mahomes as badly as the mavs loss stung Lebron.


I’ve noticed Pat seems extremely agitated this year. Something’s under his skin.

[DJ's left nut]

When did he say that about Damien?

Nothing really.

He's just taking special note to talk about what a 'warrior' Shady is. It might be nothing, but I don't get the feeling that a guy that's been doing this for 20 years says much of anything that means nothing.

When he's taking special note to point out how banged up the other guy in the RB room is and lauding him for gutting it out and playing after living in the training room all week...that's very possibly a message.

Especially when the training staff is saying there's nothing structurally wrong with Damien and the best you get from Andy is "he'll be back when he's ready..."

That's kinda a clipped indictment, is it not?

[ForeverChiefs58]

Mahomes, in his first 23 NFL starts, has thrown for 1,431 more yards than Dan Marino in his first 23 starts!

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Mahomes, in his first 23 NFL starts, has thrown for 1,431 more yards than Dan Marino in his first 23 starts!

Talk to me when he has 1/3 of the Super Bowl rings.

[crispystl]

I actually think Mahomes is a better scrambler than Alex.

Two reasons.

1. He has better change of direction, even if he is slower.

2. The defense is defending him throwing the ball more. So when he runs, it's usually going to catch them off guard.

Mahomes sets his runs up with a lot of pump fakes, look-offs and other little subtle things BEAUTIFULLY. Then likewise he sets up a lot of passes with his footwork in the pocket (like someone mentioned in the play to Kelce)

[tmax63]

Talk to me when he has 1/3 of the Super Bowl rings.

Lets chat then because Marino doesn't have any rings.

[Imon Yourside]

Talk to me when he has 1/3 of the Super Bowl rings.

What day in February works for you? I can bring the Nachos, Priest left some uneaten. You did mean 1 of the 3 he'll have in the next 3 years right? :P

[crispystl]

Steve, he's right.

Alex used scrambling as a crutch, and in key moments it hurt him. Especially in the playoffs against Pittsburgh and Tennessee.

Yeah, Alex ALWAYS ran with his head down. Not saying he didn't have good straightaway speed though, because he did. In fact he ripped off quite a few good long runs like that, but Mahomes is a magician.
It's like he's playing checkers and everyone else out there is playing 3D chess. (I stole that line but I can't remember where from) He's so effortlessly talented it's it's like he can channel the extra energy into the cerebral aspect of the game and stay two steps ahead the 11 guy on defense. I mean he just does SOOO many little subtle things that are off the charts and set him up for his next move.

[crispystl]

Saw this comment on an article on the Athletic-





Which moronic poster is this?

Matt Moore

[ghak99]

Yeah, Alex ALWAYS ran with his head down. Not saying he didn't have good straightaway speed though, because he did. In fact he ripped off quite a few good long runs like that, but Mahomes is a magician.
It's like he's playing checkers and everyone else out there is playing 3D chess. (I stole that line but I can't remember where from) He's so effortlessly talented it's it's like he can channel the extra energy into the cerebral aspect of the game and stay two steps ahead the 11 guy on defense. I mean he just does SOOO many little subtle things that are off the charts and set him up for his next move.

You're lucky your line is too long to become lexicon.

Mind bottling.

[alpha_omega]

Props to Pringle for holding on to the ball on that second hit.
That had "fumbled ball shooting the opposite way down the field" written alllllll over it.

Yeah, that was very impressive. He took such a hard hit by surprise that I was honestly expecting to see the ball come out. But he won the day.

Major props to him for sure.

[Chiefshrink]

I wanna see this repeated in the playoffs against New England.

Let's hope Frank Clark will not line up offsides in the end.:doh!:

[stevieray]

He knows I'm right. That's why his only response was an eye roll and a stupid rep message.


No, I don't.

You labeled him a panic scrambler, and that's not definitive of his scrambling ability. It was well known that Smith could beat you with his legs.

Don't whine about rep, n00b.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“We do not have to do anything else other than being ourselves.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/JbNrJZW7uT">pic.twitter.com/JbNrJZW7uT</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1178813025463263238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[REDHOTGTO]

8 outta 10 drives like this alex loses the game, sorry alex you were good but dayum

[Red Dawg]

2 4th quarter tds. How often did that happen before Mahomes. We had a history for 20 years of not scoring in the 4th quarter.

[treeguy27]

I’ve noticed Pat seems extremely agitated this year. Something’s under his skin.

I think he's tired of losing the big games. We saw him be more agitated during the Ravens game. That one was built up by the media as the marquee match up so far this season. He absolutely didn't want to lose to Lamar Jackson. He lost all of the big games last year against the Pats x2, the Rams. That frustrated him and he's tired of losing the big ones.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

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This makes me wanna run through a wall

[DRM08]

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This is why the Jay Cutler comparisons in 2017 Draft were so very, very wrong. Only people who watched him up close knew what kind of a person he was on top of an incredibly talented athlete.

He's a very positive person who can have a strong influence on his teammates. I always admired the fact he never threw his Tech teammates or coaches under the bus, despite the fact that we were pretty terrible at every other element of the game outside of Patrick's job as QB. Compare this with Aaron Rodgers throwing his coaches and teammates under the bus, etc.

[HonestChieffan]

This makes me wanna run through a wall

The kid has a gift

[rabblerouser]

This is why the Jay Cutler comparisons in 2017 Draft were so very, very wrong. Only people who watched him up close knew what kind of a person he was on top of an incredibly talented athlete.

He's a very positive person who can have a strong influence on his teammates. I always admired the fact he never threw his Tech teammates or coaches under the bus, despite the fact that we were pretty terrible at every other element of the game outside of Patrick's job as QB. Compare this with Aaron Rodgers throwing his coaches and teammates under the bus, etc.

Patrick was so good, he got Kingsbury a job in the NFL...

[WhiteWhale]

No, I don't.

You labeled him a panic scrambler, and that's not definitive of his scrambling ability. It was well known that Smith could beat you with his legs.

Don't whine about rep, n00b.

Yes, he's a panic scrambler... though I should say 'panic rusher'

You seem to think 'scrambling' is the same as 'rushing'.

It is not.

Great scramblers do their damage throwing the ball from behind the LOS and buying time with their feet. Alex would panic and rush... but he barely ever scrambled to throw. Mahomes is a better scrambler. Quit whining about it.

[stevieray]

Great scramblers do their damage throwing the ball from behind the LOS and buying time with their feet. Alex would panic and rush...

La la

Great scramblers also pick up first downs with their feet when plays break down.

The only one whining is you.

[ChiefsFanatic]

I think he's tired of losing the big games. We saw him be more agitated during the Ravens game. That one was built up by the media as the marquee match up so far this season. He absolutely didn't want to lose to Lamar Jackson. He lost all of the big games last year against the Pats x2, the Rams. That frustrated him and he's tired of losing the big ones.Every loss of his professional career is because the defense is a joke.

He had the lead against the Pats in the 4th quarter both times, and more than once in the AFCCG. He lost because the defense is a joke.

He had a 14 point 4th quarter lead against the Chargers at home, and lost because the defense is a joke.

Against the Rams he brought the team back, and took the lead several times, including the 4th quarter, but lost because the defense is a joke.

Same thing against Seattle. He brought the team back only to lose because the defense is a joke.

He has 5 losses as a professional, and all 5 were losses because his defense is a joke. A pathetic joke. He endured loss after loss in college because his defense was a joke, and now his defense is still a joke.

Mahomes isn't laughing. I want to believe that Mahomes will always want to be a Kansas City Chief, but I think that if we don't win a Super Bowl by the end of his second contract, because of our defense, he may look to join a team that has a defense that isn't a joke.

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[Megatron96]

Every loss of his professional career is because the defense is a joke.

He had the lead against the Pats in the 4th quarter both times, and more than once in the AFCCG. He lost because the defense is a joke.



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Not arguing, just introducing a couple other facts.

To be absolutely technical, the Chiefs lost the AFCCG because of a coin flip.

If the Chiefs had won that toss to determine who gets the ball to start OT, considering how easily Mahomes and co. had been shredding their D in the second half, the Chiefs would've scored a TD on their first drive, and gone to the Super Bowl.

[eDave]

This makes me wanna run through a wall

Yeah. Usually those pregame prep things turn me off but this in-game prep is in the moment and kicks ass.

[RedRaider56]

Every loss of his professional career is because the defense is a joke.

He had the lead against the Pats in the 4th quarter both times, and more than once in the AFCCG. He lost because the defense is a joke.

He had a 14 point 4th quarter lead against the Chargers at home, and lost because the defense is a joke.

Against the Rams he brought the team back, and took the lead several times, including the 4th quarter, but lost because the defense is a joke.

Same thing against Seattle. He brought the team back only to lose because the defense is a joke.

He has 5 losses as a professional, and all 5 were losses because his defense is a joke. A pathetic joke. He endured loss after loss in college because his defense was a joke, and now his defense is still a joke.

Mahomes isn't laughing. I want to believe that Mahomes will always want to be a Kansas City Chief, but I think that if we don't win a Super Bowl by the end of his second contract, because of our defense, he may look to join a team that has a defense that isn't a joke.

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Not much to debate regarding this post. Seems pretty much on point regarding the defense.

[DRM08]

Every loss of his professional career is because the defense is a joke.

He had the lead against the Pats in the 4th quarter both times, and more than once in the AFCCG. He lost because the defense is a joke.

He had a 14 point 4th quarter lead against the Chargers at home, and lost because the defense is a joke.

Against the Rams he brought the team back, and took the lead several times, including the 4th quarter, but lost because the defense is a joke.

Same thing against Seattle. He brought the team back only to lose because the defense is a joke.

He has 5 losses as a professional, and all 5 were losses because his defense is a joke. A pathetic joke. He endured loss after loss in college because his defense was a joke, and now his defense is still a joke.

Mahomes isn't laughing. I want to believe that Mahomes will always want to be a Kansas City Chief, but I think that if we don't win a Super Bowl by the end of his second contract, because of our defense, he may look to join a team that has a defense that isn't a joke.

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Rams loss was more on Mahomes than the defense. He said it himself after the game. He had several turnovers that gave 21 points to the Rams.

[smithandrew051]

Every loss of his professional career is because the defense is a joke.

He had the lead against the Pats in the 4th quarter both times, and more than once in the AFCCG. He lost because the defense is a joke.

He had a 14 point 4th quarter lead against the Chargers at home, and lost because the defense is a joke.

Against the Rams he brought the team back, and took the lead several times, including the 4th quarter, but lost because the defense is a joke.

Same thing against Seattle. He brought the team back only to lose because the defense is a joke.

He has 5 losses as a professional, and all 5 were losses because his defense is a joke. A pathetic joke. He endured loss after loss in college because his defense was a joke, and now his defense is still a joke.

Mahomes isn't laughing. I want to believe that Mahomes will always want to be a Kansas City Chief, but I think that if we don't win a Super Bowl by the end of his second contract, because of our defense, he may look to join a team that has a defense that isn't a joke.

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I agree mostly.

The Rams game Patrick had 5 turnovers. He owns part of the blame for that one.

In the Seahawks game, we tied them midway through the 3rd but never tied or led again after that. The defense struggled, but we also fumbled twice in the first half and Kelvin Benjamin dropped an easy TD pass where we settled for a field goal. Mahomes played fine, but the offense around him let him down a bit in that one. I wouldn’t put that one completely on the defense.

[Molitoth]

Saw this comment on an article on the Athletic-


Quote:
Why does this have to be about Mahomes? There were some really great performances by Chiefs players and none of them were wearing 15. He was dragged to victory by his team this time round and this, sir, is clickbait.


Which moronic poster is this?

What and idiot.

You mean like those 3 balls that got punched out?
I'd say those 3 turnovers were the biggest blunder of the day, and those were not on Mahomes.

[DJ's left nut]

I agree mostly.

The Rams game Patrick had 5 turnovers. He owns part of the blame for that one.

In the Seahawks game, we tied them midway through the 3rd but never tied or led again after that. The defense struggled, but we also fumbled twice in the first half and Kelvin Benjamin dropped an easy TD pass where we settled for a field goal. Mahomes played fine, but the offense around him let him down a bit in that one. I wouldn’t put that one completely on the defense.

The Seahawks game is a FANTASTIC data point to compare last season to this one.

Russ balled out in that game, the home crowd was rocking and the defense was playing smart, aggressive football for Seattle. And the Chiefs lost that game without being a real credible threat to win it down the stretch.

This year, with a substantially similar set of circumstances, the defense made just enough plays and the offense kept just enough momentum at key times to pull it out.

Last year's team was a damn good team that lost that game. This year's team is a great team that won the same damn game.

This squad should win the championship.

[O.city]

The Seahawks game is a FANTASTIC data point to compare last season to this one.

Russ balled out in that game, the home crowd was rocking and the defense was playing smart, aggressive football for Seattle. And the Chiefs lost that game without being a real credible threat to win it down the stretch.

This year, with a substantially similar set of circumstances, the defense made just enough plays and the offense kept just enough momentum at key times to pull it out.

Last year's team was a damn good team that lost that game. This year's team is a great team that won the same damn game.

This squad should win the championship.

Yeah am I crazy for thinking Detroit has a chance in that division? I don't buy GB's HC and their QB seems to hate him, the Bears can't score and the Vikings have poor mans homeless alex Smith leading the offense.

Detroit seems like a nice squad.

[Megatron96]

Yeah am I crazy for thinking Detroit has a chance in that division? I don't buy GB's HC and their QB seems to hate him, the Bears can't score and the Vikings have poor mans homeless alex Smith leading the offense.

Detroit seems like a nice squad.

I picked Detroit to win the NFC-N this year. It was a bit of a flyer, but what with the complete overhaul of GB, and the fact that I personally believe that both Cousins and Tru-biscuit are frauds, I figured it was a decent bet.

The Lions are more complete as a team than any other in their division this season, right now.

Of course, Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers, and he could turn things around up there and come back with a vengeance. But that defense isn't as good as I thought it was, and they STILL don't have a running game.

Right this second, I think that the Lions have about 49% chance to win their division.