They are coming for The Chop

[Hammock Parties]

From our cold, dead hands. Our fanbase will start chops on their own if they have to. We don't need music.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Atlanta Braves will not pass out foam tomahawks at today&#39;s game and will &quot;reduce the Tomahawk Chop&quot; after complaints by a Cardinals player claiming the tradition is offensive - WSBTV</p>&mdash; Breaking911 (@Breaking911) <a href="https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1182033277286338560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ptlyon]

Well, fuck that cardinals player

[Kontradiction]

Cancel Culture in full effect.

[FloridaMan88]

Typical St. Losers.

[Hammock Parties]

I would fucking love to see someone try and cancel the Chop at Arrohwead.

This fan base FLEW FUCKING BANNERS AND WORE BLACK to enact regime change.

We'd have scheduled times to start the chop blasted out on social media within a fortnight of any attempt to cancel.

[BWillie]

I am offended that the Minnesota Vikings show people wearing viking helmets that disrespects my heritage even though they are trying to champion and honor it. Very offended and I'm mad they didn't personally ask me if this was okay. The people of Minnesota must show respect to my heritage and cease this practice immediately.

[God of Thunder]

maybe we can all just say "HOOOOOO--OOOOOOO--OOHHHHH--OOHHHHHHH' without moving our hands!

[Graystoke]

I WILL NOT STOP THE CHOP SAID SAM-I-AM

[Jewish Rabbi]

I think it’s important to note that player is a Cherokee, not just some random dude.

[srvy]

I dont see what is offensive about a tomahawk its just a tool. What if we call it the Swedish axe chop?

[Frazod]

Well, fuck that cardinals player

Yeah, I'm a Cardinals fan, and fuck that Cardinals player. He should worry about what's going on in the field and not the fucking stands.

[Mile High Mania]

We live in a world where the NBA has bowed down to China... this overly PC, uber sensitive snowflake culture will in due time make the likes of the Braves, Redskins and Chiefs become untouchable for advertisers.

Hell, it's happening all over elementary and high schools... some colleges are bowing down to it. Wait until the NFL sees the dollars impacted and you'll be the Kansas City Fans of Indeginous Descent in short order.

The chop will be replaced with the golf clap. You guys are so offensive with your continued disrespect for the people that were here originally. You and your predominantly straight, white male privvys and all...

Damn you all.

[Bob Dole]

I choose not to participate in the chop, but I would never demand everyoyelse stop.

[ping2000]

From our cold, dead hands. Our fanbase will start chops on their own if they have to. We don't need music.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Atlanta Braves will not pass out foam tomahawks at today&#39;s game and will &quot;reduce the Tomahawk Chop&quot; after complaints by a Cardinals player claiming the tradition is offensive - WSBTV</p>— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) <a href="https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1182033277286338560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>So did the Cardinals discipline their star player who did the throat slash? Fuck all of this "I'm offended" bullshit. Grow a pair. Who gives a fuck about a gesture, or a song? Tired of this pussy generation.

[Marcellus]

Well they are chopping like mad now, may have had the wrong effect.

[Imon Yourside]

I dont see what is offensive about a tomahawk its just a tool. What if we call it the Swedish axe chop?

Wait! it's not the Price Chopper chop?

[Iowanian]

I'd give more attention to concerns and feelings if I couldn't buy rubber tomahawks and feathered head dresses and rubber spears at Indian Casinos right now.


what the player should be more concerned about is losing.

[srvy]

I always thought the chop was stupid and stolen by Atlanta Braves from the Florida Semen holes. Then some genius marketeer of the Peterson era stole it from the Braves and here we are with the stupid thing.

[Jerok]

They take away teh chop, I will do the double chop. TO THE CHOPPAR!

[Jewish Rabbi]

The fans voluntarily stopped after they’re down by 10 in the first inning ROFL

[Marcellus]

Cardinals are up 10-1 in the 1st inning, I believe they killed the chop.

[Imon Yourside]

Perhaps they should have done a rain dance instead? or are they now?

[Rain Man]

They stopped because an opposing player didn't like it? If that actually works, I hope our Chiefs players complain about the fans making noise on third down when we're in opposing stadiums.

[iDeaL]

While maybe not offensive, it is at the very least annoying AF when the Braves fans do it, and I have always thought it was. This is because it seems like they do it fucking constantly throughout the game.. like after every pitch or at bat. It gets to the point where watching a Braves home game is more like a concert of thousands of people doing the chant where there just so happens to be a baseball game being played in the background.

How many times during a Chiefs home game do the fans actually break out into the chant full throat? I've only been to 2 Chiefs home games, but its definitely not nearly as often as they do at Braves games, and also not nearly as noticeable while watching a Chiefs home game on TV. Also could be just that they do it so much because it keeps the fans engaged in the otherwise slow, boring nature of a baseball game, but still really freaking annoying.

[Rain Man]

While maybe not offensive, it is at the very least annoying AF when the Braves fans do it, and I have always thought it was. This is because it seems like they do it ****ing constantly throughout the game.. like after every pitch or at bat. It gets to the point where watching a Braves home game is more like a concert of thousands of people doing the chant where there just so happens to be a baseball game being played in the background.

How many times during a Chiefs home game do the fans actually break out into the chant full throat? I've only been to 2 Chiefs home games, but its definitely not nearly as often as they do at Braves games, and also not nearly as noticeable while watching a Chiefs home game on TV. Also could be just that they do it so much because it keeps the fans engaged in the otherwise slow, boring nature of a baseball game, but still really freaking annoying.


Yeah, there's really nothing else to do at a baseball game. At a football game you get to watch football, but at a baseball game you're just eating and checking your phone, and maybe looking up if you hear a home run get hit.

[carcosa]

I'd like it if our fans didn't do the chop anymore but it's pretty far down the list of things I care about. As far as affronts to Native Americans go, the Dakota Access Pipeline and Elizabeth Warren's history of redface are far more important and offensive.

[RealSNR]

I think it’s important to note that player is a Cherokee, not just some random dude.

The Chief Wahoo logo is 100000x more racist than a tomahawk chop. THIS is what the guy is complaining about?

I get that he's currently playing the Braves, but why has he not spoken up before?

[Kiimo]

The chop will eventually go away because it isn't a great look. I'm offended because it isn't original, personally.

Most native americans including the ones in my family don't give a shit but let's be honest they have a right to not really be amused by it.

I mean, you can say what's the big deal it's a rock tied to a stick but also, I don't know, Trail of Tears happened in this country.

If it was some tradition that goes back to the beginning I'd be more animated in defense of it but it's like playing Gary Glitter. Do you REALLY need it?

Maybe invent some new traditions that don't come from Florida

[lcarus]

Teams have Native American mascots and chants because it's badass, which should be taken as a compliment. Of course, context doesn't mean a damn thing to the cancel culture of today.

[lcarus]

If it was some tradition that goes back to the beginning I'd be more animated in defense of it but it's like playing Gary Glitter. Do you REALLY need it?

YES!

[ralittleus]

the pussification of america continues

[Kiimo]

YES!


both make Chiefs fans look unoriginal and second-rate. Is that how you want to be perceived just because you can't be creative?


The only reason people want Gary Glitter is because they want to chant we're gonna beat the hell out of you










Is this team beating the hell out of anybody?

[Fish]

Sure. They'll just be like "OK, nobody do that anymore." And then everybody will be all "Hooray for compliance! Let's share feelings!"

[Valiant]

From my understanding they limited it to the player on the other team.

And as soon as he said something and they gave him attention they folded and spirit broke.

[WhiteWhale]

Sure. They'll just be like "OK, nobody do that anymore." And then everybody will be all "Hooray for compliance! Let's share feelings!"

:LOL: Isn't that how this happens?

[Jewish Rabbi]

The Chief Wahoo logo is 100000x more racist than a tomahawk chop. THIS is what the guy is complaining about?

I get that he's currently playing the Braves, but why has he not spoken up before?

Chief Wahoo is no longer used, and Helsley is a rookie.

[BigRedChief]

I think it’s important to note that player is a Cherokee, not just some random dude.And lived on a reservation. Grandparents still do. And he was really complaining while he was out there on the mound.

Big difference with him complaining than some random Player or a SJW.

[MahiMike]

The price of the tomohawks will go up like gold!

[Johnny Vegas]

They stopped because an opposing player didn't like it? If that actually works, I hope our Chiefs players complain about the fans making noise on third down when we're in opposing stadiums.

Elway sympathizer!!!1!

[vailpass]

Well, **** that cardinals player

There's always one guy who has to throw a poison blanket on the fun.

[OnTheWarpath15]

And lived on a reservation. Grandparents still do. And he was really complaining while he was out there on the mound.

Big difference with him complaining than some random Player or a SJW.

IIRC, he didn't bring it up. A reporter asked him about it and he answered honestly.

[mililo4cpa]

At the Jaguar game opening day, there was plenty of chop going on.....no music or encouragement needed....

The chop will live on

[BigRedChief]

The price of the tomohawks will go up like gold!

She’s ready to replenish the supply.

[BigRedChief]

IIRC, he didn't bring it up. A reporter asked him about it and he answered honestly.Correct. A reporter that knew of his Cherokee roots and heritage.

[Direckshun]

I may be alone in this but I am not remotely concerned about losing the chop, because I'm a grown man and I don't care.

[KCUnited]

LMAO

[T-post Tom]

Come and get your love.

[TwistedChief]

I fucking hate the chop. It’s more Florida State to me than it ever is anything Chiefs-related. I refuse to do it and hope we can trade it back for that Gary Glitter song.

[Strongside]

Big difference = we don’t need foam props, and also fuck the Cardinals.

[jerryaldini]

Embarrassing FSU ripoff and annoying as Fuck at braves games. Chiefs is not disrespectful IMO, but I defer to majority of NA opinion. Redskins, yeah it is. The arrowhead is one of the coolest logos in sports.

[TinyEvel]

Chiefs just built a special balcony for the big drum. Chop ain’t goin nowhere at Arrowhead.

[KChiefs1]

From our cold, dead hands. Our fanbase will start chops on their own if they have to. We don't need music.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Atlanta Braves will not pass out foam tomahawks at today&#39;s game and will &quot;reduce the Tomahawk Chop&quot; after complaints by a Cardinals player claiming the tradition is offensive - WSBTV</p>— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) <a href="https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1182033277286338560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Which SJW Cardinal was it?

[New World Order]

I HOPE CARDINALS DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH!

[kcpasco]

Which SJW Cardinal was it?

The one that is Native American.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Cardinals are up 10-1 in the 1st inning, I believe they killed the chop.

Sounds like it worked.

[BigRedChief]

I may be alone in this but I am not remotely concerned about losing the chop, because I'm a grown man and I don't care.I get that a member of the Cherokee nation could be offended by the chop. I just dont see it in the same way was burning a cross om a black families yard, putting a swasticka on a Jewish family's garage etc. There is not an equivalency.

We do the chop at all of our Arrowhead South chapters. I've encouraged it and post videos of all the Chief fans at the various location doing the chop. In no way whatsoever do I feel I'm encouraging the demeaning of a race. We are going to keep doing the chop.

[BigRedChief]

Which SJW Cardinal was it?Dude read the thread. He's a Cherokee with deep roots in the community, lived on a reservation, family has been leaders of the Cherokee. He has a right to speak out on this issue.

[FloridaMan88]

I ****ing hate the chop. It’s more Florida State to me than it ever is anything Chiefs-related. I refuse to do it and hope we can trade it back for that Gary Glitter song.

The tomahawk chop at Arrowhead is the best.

FSU's tomahawk chop is trash and their loser fans require the support of their marching band to sustain it during games.

[Frazod]

Dude read the thread. He's a Cherokee with deep roots in the community, lived on a reservation, family has been leaders of the Cherokee. He has a right to speak out on this issue.

He's also a wealthy professional athlete who gets paid an obscene amount of money to play a game for a living. And if the people who ultimately contribute to paying his salary want to waive foam rubber tomahawks around, maybe he should take out his frustrations by buying all his impoverished relatives new cars.

[Mecca]

Maybe I don't get it but I always thought teams being named after indian stuff and doing that was endearing not demeaning.

[OmahaChief]

Maybe I don't get it but I always thought teams being named after indian stuff and doing that was endearing not demeaning.

We now live in a world where everyone is a victim...guess you did not get that memo.

[lcarus]

both make Chiefs fans look unoriginal and second-rate. Is that how you want to be perceived just because you can't be creative?


The only reason people want Gary Glitter is because they want to chant we're gonna beat the hell out of you










Is this team beating the hell out of anybody?

Yeah we beat the hell out of teams and we're winning the fucking Super Bowl. I like the song and I like the chant. Way better than DJ Kool. I'm not at all worried about other fans perception. Chances are their TD song is just as unoriginal as anyone else's. And if not, who cares what those hipster douchebags think. "Like OMG the TD song at Arrowhead is soooooo basic" Fuck em.

And bring the band back too!

[OmahaChief]

both make Chiefs fans look unoriginal and second-rate. Is that how you want to be perceived just because you can't be creative?


The only reason people want Gary Glitter is because they want to chant we're gonna beat the hell out of you










Is this team beating the hell out of anybody?


Username checks out.

[ptlyon]

Yeah we beat the hell out of teams and we're winning the ****ing Super Bowl. I like the song and I like the chant. Way better than DJ Kool. I'm not at all worried about other fans perception. Chances are their TD song is just as unoriginal as anyone else's. And if not, who cares what those hipster douchebags think. "Like OMG the TD song at Arrowhead is soooooo basic" **** em.

And bring the band back too!

GET THE BAND BACK TOGETHER!

[FloridaMan88]

LMAO

https://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2019/10/EGe0bUaXYAEKiPv-832x447.jpg

[cwhocares]

the pussification of america continues

And everybody said "AMEN"

[Pitt Gorilla]

From our cold, dead hands. Our fanbase will start chops on their own if they have to. We don't need music.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Atlanta Braves will not pass out foam tomahawks at today&#39;s game and will &quot;reduce the Tomahawk Chop&quot; after complaints by a Cardinals player claiming the tradition is offensive - WSBTV</p>&mdash; Breaking911 (@Breaking911) <a href="https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1182033277286338560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Who is the "They" that is coming for the chop? I didn't see anything about it in the article.

[Mecca]

Who is the "They" that is coming for the chop? I didn't see anything about it in the article.

PC cancel culture.....

The reason this shit happens is because someone says something and everyone buckles. This shit would stop if you know the Braves had simply said, nothing we do is intended to be offensive at all, we are celebrating our team and we apologize if you took it to be offensive but it is not meant that way at all. And then continued to do it.

The problem now is 1% bitches and the 99% fucking bows down, people need to learn to say hey man grow a thicker skin and care about something that matters ok?

[Beef Supreme]

As someone who identifies as a bird, I am offended by the the Falcon players doing the "dirty bird."

[crayzkirk]

Someone is always going to be offended by something. Society is devolving into changing for the individual instead of the group. I've always thought that it was disrespectful to yell Chiefs at the end of the national anthem. Warpaint used to be ridden around the field after every score.

[Mecca]

Someone is always going to be offended by something. Society is devolving into changing for the individual instead of the group. I've always thought that it was disrespectful to yell Chiefs at the end of the national anthem. Warpaint used to be ridden around the field after every score.

The phrase get over it seems to have left culture.

[Mile High Mania]

I get that a member of the Cherokee nation could be offended by the chop. I just dont see it in the same way was burning a cross om a black families yard, putting a swasticka on a Jewish family's garage etc. There is not an equivalency.

We do the chop at all of our Arrowhead South chapters. I've encouraged it and post videos of all the Chief fans at the various location doing the chop. In no way whatsoever do I feel I'm encouraging the demeaning of a race. We are going to keep doing the chop.

We live in a world where red hats and the 'ok sign' are racist acts. There's a small minority of people that are likely very offended with mascots being named after indian references.

It doesn't matter what you feel you are doing, it only matters if it upsets someone... and can they raise enough noise to shame you into quitting or hurt your revenue enough, forcing you to stop.

[Direckshun]

Folks, if you're mad about PC culture, but you're also demanding that black people stand for the national anthem because it's politically incorrect to do so...

...you're part of PC culture.

[Hydrae]

Folks, if you're mad about PC culture, but you're also demanding that black people stand for the national anthem because it's politically incorrect to do so...

...you're part of PC culture.

I don't know that I have heard anyone say that blacks should stand for the national anthem. I have heard people say that EVERYONE should stand for the national anthem (unless they have a disability making it not possible).

Your statement is part of the problem. The skin color of most (not all!) of the anthem protesters has nothing to do with people being upset about it. Interjecting race where it does not need to be.

[Fish]

PC cancel culture.....

The reason this shit happens is because someone says something and everyone buckles. This shit would stop if you know the Braves had simply said, nothing we do is intended to be offensive at all, we are celebrating our team and we apologize if you took it to be offensive but it is not meant that way at all. And then continued to do it.

The problem now is 1% bitches and the 99% fucking bows down, people need to learn to say hey man grow a thicker skin and care about something that matters ok?

I haven't seen any Chiefs fans buckling or bowing to this. This is just the yearly "Ohh Noes, they're taking away _____" fear mongering that never actually happens.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

We live in a world where red hats and the 'ok sign' are racist acts. There's a small minority of people that are likely very offended with mascots being named after indian references.

It doesn't matter what you feel you are doing, it only matters if it upsets someone... and can they raise enough noise to shame you into quitting or hurt your revenue enough, forcing you to stop.

The pussification of America. Homos running amuck.

[Gravedigger]

Folks, if you're mad about PC culture, but you're also demanding that black people stand for the national anthem because it's politically incorrect to do so...

...you're part of PC culture.

I endorse this post.

[crayzkirk]

The pussification of America. Homos running amuck.

Great quote by George Carlin. Everyone is so sensitive and it's a crime for someone to get their feelings hurt.

[redfan]

Are they coming for "...and the home of the CHIEFS" as well? Is that even a thing anymore?

[loochy]

As someone who identifies as a bird, I am offended by the the Falcon players doing the "dirty bird."

As someone who is a flaming homosexual, I am very offended by the existence of the Denver Broncos.

[Discuss Thrower]

Only a matter of time before a ~30 year tradition (https://deadspin.com/k-corners-arent-racist-but-theyre-a-little-weird-1796661808) gets verboten in baseball games.

[ClevelandBronco]

Folks, if you're mad about PC culture, but you're also demanding that black people stand for the national anthem because it's politically incorrect to do so...

...you're part of PC culture.

I endorse this post.

x2

[007]

I don't know that I have heard anyone say that blacks should stand for the national anthem. I have heard people say that EVERYONE should stand for the national anthem (unless they have a disability making it not possible).



Your statement is part of the problem. The skin color of most (not all!) of the anthem protesters has nothing to do with people being upset about it. Interjecting race where it does not need to be.Bingo.

[rabblerouser]

I am offended that the Minnesota Vikings show people wearing viking helmets that disrespects my heritage even though they are trying to champion and honor it. Very offended and I'm mad they didn't personally ask me if this was okay. The people of Minnesota must show respect to my heritage and cease this practice immediately.

No one gives a shit if a white person is offended.

[kysirsoze]

I am offended that the Minnesota Vikings show people wearing viking helmets that disrespects my heritage even though they are trying to champion and honor it. Very offended and I'm mad they didn't personally ask me if this was okay. The people of Minnesota must show respect to my heritage and cease this practice immediately.

I must have missed the chapter in history class where Vikings were the subject of genocide and had their culture eradicated by the very country that now makes use of a stereotyped version of it. I mean you can say people are being oversensitive and the chop is fine, but this "white people get it too!" take is just worthless.

I'll do the chop now and then, but if it goes I won't miss it. More because it's an FSU chant than anything else.

[stevieray]

you're also demanding that black people stand for the national anthem because it's politically incorrect to do so...


^false narrative^


Who does or doesn't do the chop, or who or who doesn't want to do the chop isn't that important, unless you've got a stick up your ass.


like you.

[Rasputin]

Clark Hunt personally beat the Native American drum at the AFCCC to enthuse the crowed doing the Tomahawk Chop.

[Frazod]

Username checks out.

Only if "Kiimosabi" translates into English as "weepy douche."

[Pointer19]

Well they are chopping like mad now, may have had the wrong effect.

This is similar to OU telling their fans and spirit support groups not to put “horns down” when they’re playing Texas.

[CrazyPhuD]

I don't get it....why are the Chinese upset about the Chop? They're not even native americans! :cuss:

[YontsRBake]

Even if you buy into cancel culture, I don't see how the chop would be on the non-PC side or insulting, seems like the opposite and it's actually paying homage to Native American culture.

The Indians logo and Redskins name I can actually see the argument against.

[Mennonite]

Those foam tomahawks are made in China, so it should be all good, right?

Wokeness ends where Chinese money begins.

[DaKCMan AP]

I fucking hate the chop. It’s more Florida State to me than it ever is anything Chiefs-related. I refuse to do it and hope we can trade it back for that Gary Glitter song.

This.

[bhedges1987]

The chop would be a lot cooler if the idiots in the crowd could do it in unison. Looks pathetic on TV tbh

[BWillie]

Folks, if you're mad about PC culture, but you're also demanding that black people stand for the national anthem because it's politically incorrect to do so...

...you're part of PC culture.

Nobody has to do anything. You have a right to be offended. I have a right not to give a shit and keep on keeping on.

Personally, I don't care at all about the National Anthem thing. No fucks. National Anthem is the time for me to go get another beer or take a shit before the game. But should you really be protesting while on the clock? Probably should do that on your own time.

[BWillie]

I must have missed the chapter in history class where Vikings were the subject of genocide and had their culture eradicated by the very country that now makes use of a stereotyped version of it. I mean you can say people are being oversensitive and the chop is fine, but this "white people get it too!" take is just worthless.

I'll do the chop now and then, but if it goes I won't miss it. More because it's an FSU chant than anything else.

Why does it matter if an indigenous group of people WERE subject of genocide or not when the entire idea to begin with was to champion their culture? Nobody named the team the Chiefs or Indians to mock them. They did it because they respected it. Why would you name your team after something you didn't like or respect?

[KChiefs1]

We live in a world where red hats and the 'ok sign' are racist acts. There's a small minority of people that are likely very offended with mascots being named after indian references.



It doesn't matter what you feel you are doing, it only matters if it upsets someone... and can they raise enough noise to shame you into quitting or hurt your revenue enough, forcing you to stop.



Hold it! The OK sign is racist???????