Is this a 6 win team without Patrick Mahomes?

[DJ's left nut]

This fucking team does NOTHING well and have taken to just assuming Mahomes will save them from themselves.

Oh, and Veach is a horseshit puppet of a GM.

[TLO]

YEEEEEEEEE-HAW!

[petegz28]

Right now this might be a 6 win team with Mahomes....

[New World Order]

Worse

This front office has completely failed him.

[DrRyan]

At best.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

It’s gonna be a 500 team with him so

[-King-]

Who would have thought I'd be missing Sutton's defense. At least we could get pressures and sacks.

[Hammock Parties]

Most teams in the NFL are shit without their starter.

[Mecca]

I said this last week... several people will be a long shortly to tell you Veach is great even though he looks pretty terrible at his job.

[KC_Connection]

6 wins would be pushing it, IMO. Defense is a total disaster and the O-line play is laughable.

[Jewish Rabbi]

6 is generous.

[Coochie liquor]

There’s no way Mahomes makes it through the season. He’s obviously hurt, and no time off with this, and short week coming up. We’re likely to find out what we are without home sooner than later unfortunately.

[jonzie04]

Pretty much. There is almost 0 talent on this team aside from 4 guys on offense and Mahomes.

[Titty Meat]

With the way this o-line protects we're going to find out the answer to your question

[jonzie04]

I’m amazed at how retarded Reid is. Mahomes is hurt, the o line is bad, and still doesn’t call short developing plays, or runs

[Discuss Thrower]

They're a one win team without Mahomes to this point in the season.

[DJ's left nut]

Most teams in the NFL are shit without their starter.

This team is shit without a superstar under center.

An average starting quarterback makes this a 5 win football team.

[DRM08]

The OL is horrible, the defense is horrible, special teams is horrible. I am guessing the backup QB would struggle to win 4-5 games.

[Hoover]

its an 8 win team with Mahomes if we are just going to wing it down the field every play.

[DJ's left nut]

Pretty much. There is almost 0 talent on this team aside from 4 guys on offense and Mahomes.

And the worst part is they are ALL just waiting for Mahomes to bail them out.

Nobody is even playing to their talent level. They just assume PM will save the day.

We've waited 50 years for this quarterback and then hired a retread with a shit resume to coach the D while giving an errand boy the GM job.

[-King-]

To be honest Mahomes himself hasn't been great the past 3 games. Even when given time he's off way more than he has ever been. This whole team is playing well below the level they should.

[RunKC]

It’s not just Veach. Spags was looking for players on this defense too. Veach went after Clark bc Spags wanted him.

We need to fire everyone. Andy, Veach, Spags.

Everyone

[KChiefs1]

4-12

[DJ's left nut]

It’s not just Veach. Spags was looking for players on this defense too. Veach went after Clark bc Spags wanted him.

We need to fire everyone. Andy, Veach, Spags.

Everyone

Spags was a bad hire from the jump. The only folks that didnt realize that were people who were truly married to "anyone but Sutton" and ignored the fact that Spags has several 2018 chiefs defenses on his ledger.

And I'm just not sure how many times Veach has to fuck up for people to be critical of him.

[carcosa]

To be honest Mahomes himself hasn't been great the past 3 games. Even when given time he's off way more than he has ever been. This whole team is playing well below the level they should.

He has one functioning ankle

[-King-]

He has one functioning ankle

Sure. But it's not even just throws not being inaccurate, there are plays where he just flat out makes a bad decision.

[kcclone]

It’s not just Veach. Spags was looking for players on this defense too. Veach went after Clark bc Spags wanted him.

We need to fire everyone. Andy, Veach, Spags.

Everyone



I tend to agree.

My plan would be to FIRE VEACH tomorrow AM.

If the D doesn't start looking better by the Green Bay game, fire Spags and let one of the assistants give it a shot.

If Andy and the new GM & DC can't fix this shit by next year he's gone too.

They charge a buttload for tickets and gear. They need to get this shit right.

[KC_Connection]

To be honest Mahomes himself hasn't been great the past 3 games. Even when given time he's off way more than he has ever been. This whole team is playing well below the level they should.
He's injured. I'd suggest resting him for a few weeks but this team has no real chance to win any of these games without him.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

It’s not just Veach. Spags was looking for players on this defense too. Veach went after Clark bc Spags wanted him.

We need to fire everyone. Andy, Veach, Spags.

Everyone

Don’t get the hate for spags. This D has no players on it

[RunKC]

Spags was a bad hire from the jump. The only folks that didnt realize that were people who were truly married to "anyone but Sutton" and ignored the fact that Spags has several 2018 chiefs defenses on his ledger.

And I'm just not sure how many times Veach has to **** up for people to be critical of him.

Veach isn’t the source of the problem. Andy Reid runs this football team.

He hired Veach. He hired Spags.

We will never win anything with him and people are terrified of losing him bc they love settling for their Chiefs playoff team that fails in January every year.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Put an average QB like Cousins or Stafford in there and you probably get 6 or 7 wins. Andy did have some 10 win seasons with Alex, but then again, those teams had some solid defense.

[Mulliganman]

Veach isn’t the source of the problem. Andy Reid runs this football team.

He hired Veach. He hired Spags.

We will never win anything with him and people are terrified of losing him bc they love settling for their Chiefs playoff team that fails in January every year.

We wouldn’t be short for interested candidates with Pat here

[RunKC]

Don’t get the hate for spags. This D has no players on it

Clark, Hitchens really good until they play here

[kcclone]

We wouldn’t be short for interested candidates with Pat here


Agreed. Head coaches, OC’s and GM’s would be licking their chops

[Iconic]

100% team is garbage, literal ****ing garbage, without mahomes. like miami level bad.

[-King-]

Don’t get the hate for spags. This D has no players on it
Lol what?

I'd honestly rather have Sutton back. We can't fucking do anything good anymore. At least with Sutton we had good units, even elite units.

[Otter]

I'll admit I was expecting a sophomore slump for Mahomes. His ankle and teammate injuries aren't helping but as stated, this team is doing nothing well right now.

It's safe to worry.

I wouldn't mind one bit if the put Pat on the bench for a game or two to get that ankle healed up.

[RunKC]

Lol what?

I'd honestly rather have Sutton back. We can't ****ing do anything good anymore. At least with Sutton we had good units, even elite units.

Sutton inherited great players. He was ass when those players started leaving

[Easy 6]

Man what’s wrong with you?

It’s more like a 3 win team without him

[The Franchise]

Get rid of everyone.

Is Mahomes going to even want to get a new contract here? He’s at Texas Tech all over again.

[BlackHelicopters]

3-13 without PMII

[mr. tegu]

To be honest Mahomes himself hasn't been great the past 3 games. Even when given time he's off way more than he has ever been. This whole team is playing well below the level they should.


Lots of people are overlooking this.

[eDave]

10-6. Lose first round.

Such a letdown. And don't you DARE get on me. We are not good. At all.