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Stargazer
10-16-2019, 08:54 PM
Joe is a good dude and I always enjoy his opinions. Very knowledgeable about the Chiefs and he has been tasked with talking Chiefs fans off the ledge here, good stuff.

19:00 min. mark of show

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/joe-theismann-weighs-in-on-chiefs-problems/id1474907202?i=1000453791500
FAX
10-16-2019, 09:44 PM
"... don't try to do too much and just get the ball in the hands of your playmakers ..."

Curiously, that's exactly what Mahomes has been saying since before he was drafted. Joe is a relatively cool guy, but he didn't mention the injuries, or the sudden demise of our special teams, or the penalties, or anything else that specifically addresses any of our actual core issues. Yes, Wally is the kind of coach that can keep a team from falling apart, but other than that, I found his comments pretty generic in nature.

Thanks for posting, Mr. Stargazer, but he actually made me feel worse.

FAX
Megatron96
10-16-2019, 10:37 PM
Actually met Joe at a business conference in Chicago about a hundred years ago. Okay, it was about 23 years ago. He's a lot bigger than you think. Pretty cool guy.
HemiEd
10-16-2019, 10:55 PM
As they often say in Hollywood "break a leg Joe."
BlackHelicopters
10-17-2019, 07:07 AM
I feel better.
KChiefs1
10-17-2019, 07:31 AM
Thanks Joe!
58-4ever
10-17-2019, 07:37 AM
Man, why are our special teams sooo bad?
MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
10-17-2019, 07:41 AM
Man, why are our special teams sooo bad?

DAT
Warrick
10-17-2019, 07:45 AM
DAT

And penalties, which is part of the reason why the Chiefs shouldn't be catching a ball inside the 5 yard line.
Lzen
10-17-2019, 10:29 AM
As they often say in Hollywood "break a leg Joe."

Savage! ROFL
TEX
10-17-2019, 10:40 AM
And penalties, which is part of the reason why the Chiefs shouldn't be catching a ball inside the 5 yard line.

Which time???:banghead:
SuperBowl4
10-17-2019, 10:45 AM
"... don't try to do too much and just get the ball in the hands of your playmakers ..."

Curiously, that's exactly what Mahomes has been saying since before he was drafted. Joe is a relatively cool guy, but he didn't mention the injuries, or the sudden demise of our special teams, or the penalties, or anything else that specifically addresses any of our actual core issues. Yes, Wally is the kind of coach that can keep a team from falling apart, but other than that, I found his comments pretty generic in nature.

Thanks for posting, Mr. Stargazer, but he actually made me feel worse.

FAXSUPER DUPER HYPER TRONIC BLAST BIONIC BURN BABY!
redfan
10-17-2019, 10:52 AM
Joe is cool
Carlota69
10-17-2019, 11:11 AM
Can someone give a synopsis of what Joe said? I couldnt listen to the podcast bc the hosts are terrible interviewers. It was cringe worthy.
Megatron96
10-17-2019, 12:13 PM
In a nutshell, he said run the football more, really make an effort to establish the run. Play fundamentally sound football in all three phases, offense, defense and ST. Do all of that and we'll take a lot of pressure off of Mahomes. He thinks that right now Mahomes is being asked to do too much.
Hydrae
10-17-2019, 12:17 PM
In a nutshell, he said run the football more, really make an effort to establish the run. Play fundamentally sound football in all three phases, offense, defense and ST. Do all of that and we'll take a lot of pressure off of Mahomes. He thinks that right now Mahomes is being asked to do too much.

And he is completely right. We seem to have devolved into everyone watching Mahomes try to win games basically by himself. With his ankle he just is not able to do that quite as well.

Also, establishing the running game would help the o-line a lot, open play action plays, and help to balance out the TOP issues we have had these last couple of games. But it HAS to start with showing we actually have a running game.
Megatron96
10-17-2019, 12:47 PM
And he is completely right. We seem to have devolved into everyone watching Mahomes try to win games basically by himself. With his ankle he just is not able to do that quite as well.

Also, establishing the running game would help the o-line a lot, open play action plays, and help to balance out the TOP issues we have had these last couple of games. But it HAS to start with showing we actually have a running game.

Another benefit would be to give the defense more rest. Last game the defense was on the field for 90 snaps (read that somewhere). That's basically playing 2 games or a game-and-a-half in one game. And they've been playing extra snaps since the Ravens game. I think they played something like 75 snaps in that game. We want the defense to play better, but they're playing tired every game.

I just watched a couple episodes of "The Franchise" so I know that Mahomes knows this because he says right before a drive that the offense needs to put together a long drive, and give the D some rest. But it's our offense, so even though it's a 9 play drive it only takes about 3 and a half minutes.

Running the ball would lengthen drives and keep our defense off the field. Play small ball for a game. Put less stress on Mahomes and his ankle. And slow the Broncos pass rush. And should be easier on our patch-work OL.
SuperBowl4
10-17-2019, 12:56 PM
ROFLHas Alex Smith chimed in yet?ROFL
Imon Yourside
10-17-2019, 01:05 PM
In a nutshell, he said run the football more, really make an effort to establish the run. Play fundamentally sound football in all three phases, offense, defense and ST. Do all of that and we'll take a lot of pressure off of Mahomes. He thinks that right now Mahomes is being asked to do too much.

Pissoli said the same things, meh.
BlackHelicopters
10-17-2019, 01:07 PM
As they often say in Hollywood "break a leg Joe."

Hardcore!
candyman
10-17-2019, 01:25 PM
Can someone give a synopsis of what Joe said? I couldnt listen to the podcast bc the hosts are terrible interviewers. It was cringe worthy.

One of them is the thread starter. You're rude.
eDave
10-17-2019, 01:25 PM
Can someone give a synopsis of what Joe said? I couldnt listen to the podcast bc the hosts are terrible interviewers. It was cringe worthy.

Everything we already know, basically.
RINGLEADER
10-17-2019, 02:44 PM
Chiefs are beat the hell up. That's the problem.

Mahomes has 200+ yards in the first half. Gets hurt, then has 30 yards in the second.

Reid loses his mind pretending the O-Line we're fielding can hold up. Hopefully he learns.

But seriously when you're missing key pieces at every level on defense and half your O-Line it doesn't really matter what you're trying to do. When we're healthy we'll be fine.