PDA

View Full Version : Chiefs If Pat is hurt bad do they trade for Eli?


ShowtimeSBMVP
10-17-2019, 07:25 PM
Thoughts but let’s pray he’s ok

Jerm
10-17-2019, 07:25 PM
LOL fuck no...

King_Chief_Fan
10-17-2019, 07:26 PM
noooooooo

Deberg_1990
10-17-2019, 07:26 PM
Heh. No. They roll with what they got and re-tool for next season

KCUnited
10-17-2019, 07:26 PM
Or Chaz McDaniels

carcosa
10-17-2019, 07:28 PM
Jesus Christ you're stupid

New World Order
10-17-2019, 07:28 PM
No. We trade Sammy and tank.

ptlyon
10-17-2019, 07:28 PM
Somebody ban this dumb fuck for such a stupid thread. JFC

St. Patty's Fire
10-17-2019, 07:31 PM
trade for fitz

Skyy God
10-17-2019, 07:32 PM
You should trade for a time machine and a coat hanger for your mom.

arrwheader
10-17-2019, 07:32 PM
STFU

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

jimidollar
10-17-2019, 07:32 PM
Don't trade for anything. The season is lost. Just ride with what you have.

KC_Lee
10-17-2019, 07:33 PM
I hear the TN Tits might have a QB available.

PutQuinnIn
10-17-2019, 07:33 PM
Kaepernick

MGRS13
10-17-2019, 07:34 PM
You can sign Kap tomorrow for league minimum. If the chiefs don't it's proof if collusion by the league.

Frazod
10-17-2019, 07:34 PM
Well, you're wrong

Sorry, I was posting shit in the wrong thread.

And no, fuck Eli. We need our picks.

Frazod
10-17-2019, 07:35 PM
And double fuck Kaepernick.

bigjosh
10-17-2019, 07:35 PM
Well at least we will have a nice high draft pick for veach to trade away for a mediocre player

Bump
10-17-2019, 07:35 PM
trade Sammy and we'll lose the rest of our games and get a good draft pick and maybe next year.

cabletech94
10-17-2019, 07:36 PM
thanks for the honest comments CP. that's why i come here.

+1 for all of you. except for you showtime. go fuck yourself. lol!

pugsnotdrugs19
10-17-2019, 07:37 PM
No?

You load up on picks and get ready for next year

ShowtimeSBMVP
10-17-2019, 07:37 PM
Eli is light years better then Moore

lewdog
10-17-2019, 07:38 PM
Just fuck you!!!

ShowtimeSBMVP
10-17-2019, 07:38 PM
No?

You load up on picks and get ready for next year

Eli will cost a 5th round

New World Order
10-17-2019, 07:38 PM
Well at least we will have a nice high draft pick for veach to trade away for a mediocre player

Didn't we blow our second rounder on Clark?

Could have possibly had a high first and second.

Shit.

ptlyon
10-17-2019, 07:38 PM
Sorry, I was posting shit in the wrong thread.

And no, **** Eli. We need our picks.

Deleted mine as well

ptlyon
10-17-2019, 07:39 PM
Eli is light years better then Moore

GET. FUCKED.

bigjosh
10-17-2019, 07:39 PM
Didn't we blow our second rounder on Clark?



Could have possibly had a high first and second.



Shit.



Naa, its whichever pick is later in the 2nd, ours or the 49ers

Skyy God
10-17-2019, 07:43 PM
Eli is light years better then Moore

Antifreeze >> whatever you’re drinking.

Try it.

TribalElder
10-17-2019, 07:43 PM
carradine yourself

fuck eli

Mulliganman
10-17-2019, 07:46 PM
Good god no! If Pat is out for an extended period of time, you probably look at trading Watkins and retool.

Chiefs4TheWin
10-17-2019, 07:46 PM
hell no.. you ride the Ls all the way to a draft pick.

Bwana
10-17-2019, 07:49 PM
F no.

BossChief
10-17-2019, 08:13 PM
Fuck that

Kill the cap for a below replacement level player?
No thanks.

If the Knee is seriously hurt to the point of IR, I’d think about trading for Mariota because Reid could salvage his career and get a pick for him in the offseason.

Chiefs4TheWin
10-17-2019, 08:20 PM
**** that

Kill the cap for a below replacement level player?
No thanks.

If the Knee is seriously hurt to the point of IR, I’d think about trading for Mariota because Reid could salvage his career and get a pick for him in the offseason.

Devious.. I like it.

Imon Yourside
10-17-2019, 08:24 PM
I would rather roll with the Sausage at QB

KCJake
10-17-2019, 09:19 PM
Kaepernick

First guy that came to my mind too

iDeaL
10-17-2019, 09:21 PM
I would rather roll with the Sausage at QB

LMAO

KC_Connection
10-17-2019, 09:22 PM
Eli has literally been trash for years...so no.

YontsRBake
10-17-2019, 09:22 PM
What makes our fans think we have the cap to do this kinda sh1t?

MahiMike
10-17-2019, 09:23 PM
The book of Eli?

WhawhaWhat
10-17-2019, 09:23 PM
I'd rather have Mariota.

BossChief
10-17-2019, 09:23 PM
Try to make Sam Bradford look good to trade him after the season?

Tribal Warfare
10-17-2019, 09:24 PM
Keep all the motherfuckering picks, and attempt to get more motherfucking picks

TwistedChief
10-17-2019, 09:27 PM
And double fuck Kaepernick.

Seriously, why? Get a guy for the league minimum. Is there any chance he's worse than Matt Moore? Any?

This team has a ton of talent on offense. Moore seemed to recognize that on one play downfield to Hill. I'm most upset tonight that we didn't even attempt to give Moore more looks in the passing game when we had a lead that even he couldn't fuck up.

He looked like a deer in the headlights.

Iowanian
10-17-2019, 09:28 PM
Would anyone who thinks shit like this make a fist....look at it.....now punch yourself right in the meat flap.

Lzen
10-17-2019, 09:30 PM
Fuck no! What are you, drunk? Eli sucks. He's done.

Reerun_KC
10-17-2019, 09:31 PM
JFC.

Chief Roundup
10-17-2019, 09:31 PM
Jesus what a stupid fucking thought. Eli sucks horribly. The only one that MIGHT be worse is that we should sign Kaepernick. We are going to battle with whom we have. We would probably bring up Shurmur as the backup.

Bwana
10-17-2019, 09:31 PM
Kaepernick

LMAO Yeah, no.

oldman
10-17-2019, 09:55 PM
Uuuuuuhhh, NO! I'd sure get Shurmur off the PS and give him some reps.

suzzer99
10-17-2019, 09:57 PM
https://media0.giphy.com/media/aSTJbOerwCKqc/giphy.gif

Kman34
10-17-2019, 09:58 PM
With this o line??? No fucking way.. The dude is a statue..

BigCatDaddy
10-18-2019, 06:44 AM
Id go after Keenum.

old_geezer
10-18-2019, 06:54 AM
First, Hell no on Eli. Second, anybody we pick up wouldn't have a decent knowledge of our playbook before Mahomes or Henne (or both) are back.

MMXcalibur
10-18-2019, 07:00 AM
You stick with Matt Moore because (theoretically) he knows the playbook.

KC_Lee
10-18-2019, 07:03 AM
I'd rather sign Eli Whitney's corpse.

rico
10-18-2019, 07:14 AM
Stanzimania has been activated to “comatose” status after spending a few years in “hella-deceased” mode. Bring in Stanzi!!! He flashed better than Palko did in the CFL before we brought HIM in!!!

Haha, that’d be funny shit.

Flipping one of these benched guys for a pick would be sweet.

kcclone
10-18-2019, 07:18 AM
If you could count on our defense to play like they did last night it might make sense, but that is probably an aberration unfortunately.

Barret
10-18-2019, 07:21 AM
I am not of the mind to do this....BUT, If they do get Eli it would be extremely funny to watch him beat Tom Brady in the AFCCG just to screw him over 1 more time.

dannybcaitlyn
10-18-2019, 07:21 AM
I'd rather have Mariota.

Hopefully it don’t come to us getting a Qb but Mariota would be who I would go after IF it came to that. I mean how many Qb’s can throw TD passes to them selfs! Ha! The way this O-line is built you need a Mobile quarterback and not a statue back there. Moore had some running lanes for some big gains but he’s just slow.

Dayze
10-18-2019, 07:21 AM
don't trade for anyone.
roll with what you have.

other teams know we need a QB, so we'll end up over paying for a QB. (our GM might over pay anyway, since he's good at that part)


if Pat is truly out for the year, just Roll with Moore and bring up Shurmur from the PS. Have those two compete/develop (though, Moore is probably as 'developed' as he's gonna get) and experiment with them.

I'm not in favor of trading for anyone.

if the defense was worth a F, 'maybe' trade and see if your D can propel you to the playoffs etc. But this defense is hot garbage, they won't be able to carry the team.

ChiefaRoo
10-18-2019, 07:24 AM
Uhhh, negative.

rico
10-18-2019, 07:25 AM
I am not of the mind to do this....BUT, If they do get Eli it would be extremely funny to watch him beat Tom Brady in the AFCCG just to screw him over 1 more time.

Lol this .

bdj23
10-18-2019, 07:29 AM
Dudes just sign kaep

- blue checkmark on Twitter

O.city
10-18-2019, 07:30 AM
LOL, lord no.

If he's done for the year, just get him healthy for next season and hope for a high draft pick.

BigCatDaddy
10-18-2019, 07:45 AM
LOL, lord no.

If he's done for the year, just get him healthy for next season and hope for a high draft pick.

Stupid ^

O.city
10-18-2019, 07:51 AM
Stupid ^

You aren’t winning anything substantial without Mahomes so don’t waste any resources on it

Marcellus
10-18-2019, 07:52 AM
Can I nominate this for dumbest thread of the decade?

BigCatDaddy
10-18-2019, 07:53 AM
You aren’t winning anything substantial without Mahomes so don’t waste any resources on it

A 5-2 team wont go into tank mode. Why to go from 20th to 15th pick?
The Eli idea ia fail but so is talking about draft position.

nychief
10-18-2019, 07:54 AM
This is a bad idea.

RedRaider56
10-18-2019, 07:56 AM
This is a bad idea.

Agreed.

One of the reasons that Eli got benched is because he's immoblile in the pocket. The Chief OL probably isn't a whole lot better right now, due to all the injuries. I don't think you would be gaining anything by going with Eli.

O.city
10-18-2019, 07:57 AM
A 5-2 team wont go into tank mode. Why to go from 20th to 15th pick?

Look at their schedule. If he’s out the rest of the year they’ll probably finish with 7 wins.

Trading for another qb isn’t gonna change that much so just let Moore okay it out and maybe you end up with a top 15 pick.

ChiTown
10-18-2019, 07:57 AM
Case Keenum definitely would fit the bill as a temp fix for either 3-4 games, or even the season if Pat has to have surgery. Not a huge fan, but he’d probably be affordable and a better option than MM, IMO

KC_Lee
10-18-2019, 07:58 AM
Can I nominate this for dumbest thread of the decade?

I second this motion.

BigCatDaddy
10-18-2019, 08:00 AM
Case Keenum definitely would fit the bill as a temp fix for either 3-4 games, or even the season if Pat has to have surgery. Not a huge fan, but he’d probably be affordable and a better option than MM, IMO

He had Minnesota 1 game away.

BigCatDaddy
10-18-2019, 08:00 AM
Look at their schedule. If he’s out the rest of the year they’ll probably finish with 7 wins.

Trading for another qb isn’t gonna change that much so just let Moore okay it out and maybe you end up with a top 15 pick.

Talking draft position at 5-2 is as retarded as your trade ideas. Creating a losing culture is a dangerous and very real thing.

kcclone
10-18-2019, 08:01 AM
Look at their schedule. If he’s out the rest of the year they’ll probably finish with 7 wins.

Trading for another qb isn’t gonna change that much so just let Moore okay it out and maybe you end up with a top 15 pick.


This division is probably still winnable with Matt Moore. I don't see us tanking and 9-7 is probably the over/under if Mahomes is out the entire year.

That means you're 1 game away from the playoffs. Split with the Chargers and beat the Raiders and you're in the playoffs.

O.city
10-18-2019, 08:01 AM
Keenum would have to come in and learn the system, which woudln't happen fast.

I think you roll with Moore and see what happens. Maybe trade for Mariota and revamp him into a tradable asset or something.

O.city
10-18-2019, 08:03 AM
Talking draft position at 5-2 is as retarded as your trade ideas. Creating a losing culture is a dangerous and very real thing.

If Your MVP QB is out for the year, there's no point in getting too excited, your season is over.

BigCatDaddy
10-18-2019, 08:28 AM
If Your MVP QB is out for the year, there's no point in getting too excited, your season is over.

Tell that to Nuck Foles and then start your well but but that's different post.

BigCatDaddy
10-18-2019, 08:29 AM
Keenum would have to come in and learn the system, which woudln't happen fast.

I think you roll with Moore and see what happens. Maybe trade for Mariota and revamp him into a tradable asset or something.

You are 1 play away from Shurmur at QB. Flup a 6th for McCoy or Keenum and have some security.

FloridaMan88
10-18-2019, 08:34 AM
If Mahomes is out for the year, the Chiefs should trade for Marcus Mariota.

Mariota with the Chiefs talent on offense + Andy Reid's coaching/scheme would at least give the Chiefs a fighting chance this year if Mahomes is out for the season.

The AFC is down this year, and the Faketriots are 6-0 against the weakest schedule to-date in the NFL.

Even without Mahomes there is too much talent on this team just to tank and mail it in for the season.

Chief Northman
10-18-2019, 08:35 AM
If Mahomes is out for the year, the Chiefs should trade for Marcus Mariota.

Mariota with the Chiefs talent on offense + Andy Reid's coaching/scheme would at least give the Chiefs a fighting chance this year if Mahomes is out for the season.

The AFC is down this year, and the Faketriots are 6-0 against the weakest schedule to-date in the NFL.

Even without Mahomes there is too much talent on this team just to tank and mail it in for the season.

ROFL

dallaschiefsfan
10-18-2019, 08:37 AM
No need to over complicate this. If Pat goes to IR, the plan should be:

1. Roll w/ Moore and start getting Shurmer his reps each week.
2. Once Moore looses a winnable game or shows his worst deficiencies, put Shurmer in for the remainder of the year and take a shot that he'll develop and get us deep into the playoffs.
3. If Shurmer developed, be the 49'ers and trade him for a 1 to whatever team is doing their best Peterson-era Chiefs impression.
4. If a decent upside guy that's still young is available for a 6 or 7, pull the trigger and apply point 3 above to him.

Dayze
10-18-2019, 08:37 AM
if Pat is truly out for the year, they don't need to trade for anyone, IMO.

anyone they trade for isn't going to make a difference this year significant enough to justify trading draft picks.

if he's done, you roll with who you got, and let the season play out however it's going to play out.

IMO

O.city
10-18-2019, 08:42 AM
Tell that to Nuck Foles and then start your well but but that's different post.

Well yeah outliers are outliers

BigCatDaddy
10-18-2019, 08:45 AM
Well yeah outliers are outliers

LMAO

MahiMike
10-18-2019, 08:45 AM
Mariota would be the best choice. Cheap and mobile. I think their defensive mindset has messed w/his head. Let Andy coach him up and play him like Lamar Jackson. Fix our run too.

RINGLEADER
10-18-2019, 08:47 AM
Nate Burleson was on Good Morning Football making the point that the Chiefs should roll with what they got and keep the game plan they've got. Said the quickest way to lose the locker room is to start changing your identity. If Moore can't get it done then you might refine it and call more of the plays he's comfortable with but he said on the teams he was on when there was an injury like this and the coaches changed everything it caused more harm than good.

Don't agree with everything he says, but I think he's probably right here.

I think Moore is deficient in just about every way but if the coaches think he looks better than Schumur then let's buckle up and hope we can split the next four at least and we get Mahomes back for the stretch with a 7-4 record.

If he's okay the rest Mahomes gets for that ankle may make this whole thing a (very rationalized) blessing in disguise.

FloridaMan88
10-18-2019, 08:53 AM
ROFL

Lindsay and Freeman will run for 250+ combined Thursday night. Watch.
Great prediction, dumbshit. ROFL

You might want to lay low for a while and stop posting.

tatorhog
10-18-2019, 08:57 AM
Not that it has a ton of impact, but what was the reason we kept Shurmur over Litton? I thought Litton's skillset (bigger arm, etc) was maybe a little better fit for this team. If Shurmur is the backup defacto, yeesh.

Moore looked like he had to put some mustard on the ball just to complete a 4-5 yard sideline route. If there is an immediate lid on the offense with a shit line, its going to be tough sledding.

tk13
10-18-2019, 09:08 AM
Honestly I have no interest in Eli. Too old and too immobile. Moore has actually done a decent job in the NFL before and he knows the playbook. I'd rather ride with him than give up a draft pick for Eli.

If he's gone for the year you have to go get someone. Given our offense and Reid I think someone like Mariota or Kaepernick would probably be a better fit, I think Andy would do a good job with both of them but I can't see either happening.

FloridaMan88
10-18-2019, 09:13 AM
Honestly I have no interest in Eli. Too old and too immobile. Moore has actually don't a decent job in the NFL before. I'd rather ride with him than give up a draft pick for Eli.

If he's gone for the year you have to go get someone. Given our offense and Reid I think someone like Mariota or Kaepernick would probably be a better fit, I think Andy would do a good job with both of them but I can't see either happening.

Agreed, Eli would be a worse option than Matt Moore.

At least Moore looks like he still has some mobility.

The Franchise
10-18-2019, 09:18 AM
Dude....Mariota has a base salary of $20 million. No fucking thanks.

ScareCrowe
10-18-2019, 09:18 AM
Tell that to Nuck Foles and then start your well but but that's different post.

Well, that is actually different. (lol) You see the Eagles signed a strong backup in the off-season & allowed him to learn the offense & get acclimated to his teammates.

You're suggesting we mid-season try to find someone off the scrap heap & teach them the offense mid season. It's not comparable at all.

In fact in the example of Nick Foles & the Eagles could be used to justfy sticking with your existing backup, not panicking & trading for some junk off the scrap heap.

I guess the post you quoted may have been better stated "if your MVP QB goes down & you have a stiff as your existing backup your season is over"

Chris Meck
10-18-2019, 09:27 AM
Eli? Really?
Didn't you just watch what happens to an aging immobile QB? Nah.
Keenum? We already have that guy, his name is Matt Moore.

Seriously. The reason Moore didn't have a job is because teams determined he wasn't THE GUY. No shit, right? Well, there's about 5 guys in the NFL that ARE and about ten that teams REALLY HOPE MIGHT BE, and then there's a bunch of guys that aren't but are serviceable as long as you know what they are.

Moore's totally a serviceable game manager type QB. We should know, we've been looking at them for forty years, more or less.

If Mahomes is out for the rest of the season, we're not going to the Super Bowl. Eli doesn't change that. Keenum doesn't change that. Nobody you can trade for is going to change that.

You play Moore, you activate Shurmur and you roll. Maybe you can re-sign Litton for third string (did someone even pick him up?)

You don't mortgage the future on a retread.

You play the cards you're dealt, you take the higher draft slot, and you re-load in the spring.

tatorhog
10-18-2019, 09:29 AM
fuck it, go Jeff George and run 90 yard go routes, like in Tecmo Bowl

Dayze
10-18-2019, 09:29 AM
Eli? Really?
Didn't you just watch what happens to an aging immobile QB? Nah.
Keenum? We already have that guy, his name is Matt Moore.

Seriously. The reason Moore didn't have a job is because teams determined he wasn't THE GUY. No shit, right? Well, there's about 5 guys in the NFL that ARE and about ten that teams REALLY HOPE MIGHT BE, and then there's a bunch of guys that aren't but are serviceable as long as you know what they are.

Moore's totally a serviceable game manager type QB. We should know, we've been looking at them for forty years, more or less.

If Mahomes is out for the rest of the season, we're not going to the Super Bowl. Eli doesn't change that. Keenum doesn't change that. Nobody you can trade for is going to change that.

You play Moore, you activate Shurmur and you roll. Maybe you can re-sign Litton for third string (did someone even pick him up?)

You don't mortgage the future on a retread.

You play the cards you're dealt, you take the higher draft slot, and you re-load in the spring.

I think Jacksonville picked up Litton.....at least, I 'think' that's where he went.

tatorhog
10-18-2019, 09:32 AM
I think Jacksonville picked up Litton.....at least, I 'think' that's where he went.

He did prior to our Week 1 game. I didn't follow to see if he stuck around.

ChiTown
10-18-2019, 10:00 AM
The good news for Moore is that he's going to get snaps for a full week plus with the 1's. Not to mention, they should have sufficient time to get an Offensive package in place for him to ultimately be as effective as he can be, given his limitations as a QB. We'll be all right........:nosmilie:

Hammock Parties
10-18-2019, 12:36 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eli Manning: 84.1 career passer rating, 7.01 yards per attempt. <br><br>Matt Moore: 81.2 career passer rating, 7.03 yards per attempt. <a href="https://t.co/Eoh8edgz5v">https://t.co/Eoh8edgz5v</a></p>&mdash; Adam Levitan (@adamlevitan) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamlevitan/status/1185173818379329536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Megatron96
10-18-2019, 01:10 PM
Holy crap. Someone's stoned. Eli?

Did I miss something? Is there a pressing need to try to clone the performance of Flacco on OUR team now?

Who comes up with this garbage?

The reason Matt Moore is our back-up is simple: Reid likes veteran guys at back-up with a resume of playing smart football in tough situations.

Matt Moore is a veteran QB with 12 years of experience in the NFL. Yes, he's a career back-up, but he's played and won in the NFL. He's started multiple games with some success, including a win against the Chiefs throwing 3 TDs. And he's played in a playoff game. He lost, but he played well in that loss.

And consider this: before last night Moore hadn't taken a single snap in practice for at least a month. In spite of that, he didn't turn the ball over, he did make a few plays, and he did throw a TD. Albeit on the craziest wheel route I've ever seen, but that's besides the point.

As recently as 2016, Moore was named AFC Offensive Player of the Week, with a four TD performance against the Jets (I know, the Jets, but 4 TDs is 4 TDs).

Here, just look at his pro career:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Moore_(American_football)#Professional_career

Matt Moore is a better QB than Eli.

Stop smoking whatever you're smoking, it's making you stupid.