Who's Doin No Nut November?

[Titty Meat]

This can be the official thread where we all support eachother.

[Rasputin]

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[staylor26]

Billay we already know you do No Nut Jan-Dec

[MMXcalibur]

With so much pornography at my fingertips, I would be done at 12:01.....oh shit, it's 12:02!

New record!

[CrazyPhuD]

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[eDave]

I'm looking forward to no nut 2020.

[kjwood75nro]

Didn't do sober October, not doing this.

[BigRedChief]

Is this some millennial thing?

[eDave]

Is this some millennial thing?

Seriously. What's the point of this one? Dave's gotta nut, man.

[BWillie]

I could go weeks. Easy.

[BWillie]

Is this some millennial thing?

I think it's a gen z thing, actually.

Fucking Gen Z, ruining everything.

[Rasputin]

That's not really fair to Big Nasty KCnut


And he does a fine job on GDT

[scho63]

I wish someone would have warned me sooner.

I've already failed.......:shrug:

[lewdog]

Of course I am.....


I’m married.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I'm out

[Baby Lee]

Not even pistachios?

Pistachios are healthy and delicious.

[Why Not?]

Is this an actual thing? If so, why?

[loochy]

Uhm why? Isn't the point of life to nut as much as possible?

[Bwana]

:spock:

[Chris Meck]

Welp. I'm out.

[stevieray]

Date Rape December

Film @ 11.

[Bearcat]

They're pretty well attached from what I can tell...

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Balls full(cousin Eddie)

[Otter]

I'm holding out for Wipe Your Balloon Knot With a Cheese Grater January.

[Naptown Chief]

These idiots will be the fall of man..

[Baby Lee]

I'm holding out for Wipe Your Balloon Knot With a Cheese Grater January.

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[xbarretx]

Hell, ONLY November....that feels like a get out of jail free card! Looks like im getting some in December.... I will put it on the calendar so my wife cant complain.

[Reerun_KC]

Ive been married almost 27 years. No chance this happens. It’s on like Donkey Kong tonight.

[ModSocks]

Going that long w/o nutting can turn an Olympic athlete into Caitlyn Jenner. Better be careful.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Longest I've ever managed is close to 3 weeks. From what I've read, you start seeing serious positives around a month.

For anyone who laughs at the idea, it makes plenty of sense. Spilling your seed depletes you of your damn lifeforce. If it's got enough nutrients, hormones etc to create a human being, it's probably not healthy to be dumping it 4 times a day.

When you're 25, you can regenerate quickly. Not the case the older you get.

[Bearcat]

These idiots will be the fall of man..

Idiots not reproducing will be the fall of man?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Has no one noticed that when you get off multiple times in a short period, that you feel depleted and tired, or generally shitty?

Do the math.

[loochy]

Has no one noticed that when you get off multiple times in a short period, that you feel depleted and tired, or generally shitty?

Do the math.

No, not at all

[loochy]

I guarantee that nobody does this willingly. Only incels do this.

[gblowfish]

Has no one noticed that when you get off multiple times in a short period, that you feel depleted and tired, or generally shitty?

Do the math.

I dunno. When I was in College I had a girlfriend who was a real wildcat. When we first hooked up, I remember a Saturday where we probably did it six or seven times in one day.

I was tired.
A really GOOD kinda tired, and certainly "shitty" is the last descriptive adjective I would have used...

She was a hot.

[lcarus]

I dunno. When I was in College I had a girlfriend who was a real wildcat. When we first hooked up, I remember a Saturday where we probably did it six or seven times in one day.

I was tired.
A really GOOD kinda tired, and certainly "shitty" is the last descriptive adjective I would have used...

She was a hot.

Yeah well back in your day, men had testosterone to spare. Now days, a lot of men are "soy boy cucks" or whatever term you wanna use.

https://crayfisher.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/soy-boy.jpg

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Yeah well back in your day, men had testosterone to spare. Now days, a lot of men are "soy boy outstanding citizens" or whatever term you wanna use.

https://crayfisher.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/soy-boy.jpg

Yep....

Plus, he was in college. You can get away with a lot at that age.

This isn't something totally obscure or weird. A lot of the most successful people in history swore by it. Steve Jobs, the Wright bros, Newton, Leonardo da Vinci, Beethoven, Tyson, Ali, Socrates...many boxers and philosphers. It's really common in the boxing world. Ali and Tyson wouldn't touch women for months before a fight.

[ModSocks]

Longest I've ever managed is close to 3 weeks. From what I've read, you start seeing serious positives around a month.

For anyone who laughs at the idea, it makes plenty of sense. Spilling your seed depletes you of your damn lifeforce. If it's got enough nutrients, hormones etc to create a human being, it's probably not healthy to be dumping it 4 times a day.

When you're 25, you can regenerate quickly. Not the case the older you get.

Has no one noticed that when you get off multiple times in a short period, that you feel depleted and tired, or generally shitty?

Do the math.

Ok, enough of this noise. You're attempting to kill people and i will not stand silent any longer.


1. I've read that ejaculating can reduce your chances of getting prostate cancer. That means ejaculating is awesome because it's the cure to cancer.

2. By deduction, that means your "LifeForce Seed" is actually a construct of evil. If you do not release that evil, it will destroy you from the inside.

Here's my proof of Evil Life Force destroying people from the inside:

a). Prostate Cancer

b). Incels. Just look at these people complaining about shit like Tomahawk Chops. Evil Life Force rotting their brains.

c). Catholic Priests. I mean, need i say more?

d). My woman if i go more than two weeks with out dicking her down. Turns into a goddamn savage, i swear. Followed by her incredibly good mood the morning after....proof that releasing the evil within is mandatory to good mental health.

[Bowser]

I'm looking forward to no nut 2020.

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[Bowser]

Ive been married almost 27 years. No chance this happens. It’s on like Donkey Kong tonight.

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[sd4chiefs]

Ive been married almost 27 years. No chance this happens. It’s on like Donkey Kong tonight.

Being married for over 30 years is like this.

NSFW

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[redfan]

Whaaaaat!?? This is a thing? Sounds very flat Earthy.

[Bill Brasky]

I don't understand. You're not allowed to rub it out or you're not allowed to nut at all? Like no banging? Sounds gay.

[stumppy]

I'm out.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Sorry Billay, this also includes making other dudes nut.

[Clyde Frog]

Gonna take my GF out to dinner so I can end my NNN tonight.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Ok, enough of this noise. You're attempting to kill people and i will not stand silent any longer.


1. I've read that ejaculating can reduce your chances of getting prostate cancer. That means ejaculating is awesome because it's the cure to cancer.

2. By deduction, that means your "LifeForce Seed" is actually a construct of evil. If you do not release that evil, it will destroy you from the inside.

Here's my proof of Evil Life Force destroying people from the inside:

a). Prostate Cancer

b). Incels. Just look at these people complaining about shit like Tomahawk Chops. Evil Life Force rotting their brains.

c). Catholic Priests. I mean, need i say more?

d). My woman if i go more than two weeks with out dicking her down. Turns into a goddamn savage, i swear. Followed by her incredibly good mood the morning after....proof that releasing the evil within is mandatory to good mental health.

Highly doubtful that it can cause cancer. I don't think there's any known correlation between celibate people and prostate cancer.

Regardless, the idea is just to reduce it, not to become a priest.

I definitely notice a difference when I go on streaks. More energy, better concentration, better skin, etc.

People talk about an "aura" and I think it's true. When I was on my longest streak (which was only like 19 days), I noticed people gravitated to me. When I fell off, the same people suddenly weren't. I think there's something to it.

But the real shit supposedly starts to happen around a month. I've never held out that long.

[Buehler445]

Yep....

Plus, he was in college. You can get away with a lot at that age.

This isn't something totally obscure or weird. A lot of the most successful people in history swore by it. Steve Jobs, the Wright bros, Newton, Leonardo da Vinci, Beethoven, Tyson, Ali, Socrates...many boxers and philosphers. It's really common in the boxing world. Ali and Tyson wouldn't touch women for months before a fight.

You really want to take the Mike Tyson approach to life? He was essentially brainwashed to be a machine in the ring.

But yeah. Sure. Use Tyson as a model for success.

Jobs too. Didn’t he have a kid during those apple years?

And most of those philosophers were fucking boys.

Look man. Over millions of years of evolution our bodies are bred to produce as many progeny as possible in a lifetime. Do you know why? Because up until the last 200 or so years, life was fucking hard. People fucking died. Often. So from a biological standpoint we needed to spread our DNA. So that’s what we’re built to do. Only in the last what, 5 generations have we been able to keep people from fucking dying. So life is comfortable and you don’t need to have 10 kids because 8 of them will die.

Go ahead. Don’t cum. No skin off my back. But to espouse what you are is criminal. This is anecdotal at best with no where near enough data to even draw correlation much less causation. But do you man. Look at millions of years of biology and think you know better.

[Fish]

Longest I've ever managed is close to 3 weeks. From what I've read, you start seeing serious positives around a month.

For anyone who laughs at the idea, it makes plenty of sense. Spilling your seed depletes you of your damn lifeforce. If it's got enough nutrients, hormones etc to create a human being, it's probably not healthy to be dumping it 4 times a day.

When you're 25, you can regenerate quickly. Not the case the older you get.

LOLWUT?

[rabblerouser]

So...does this go for jacking off, too?

Asking for a friend.

[St. Patty's Fire]

I wish someone would have warned me sooner.

I've already failed.......:shrug:

yip

[BryanBusby]

My wife is on the rag and I've got tonsillitis, so I'm down until those 2 things end.

[TLO]

So...does this go for jacking off, too?

Asking for a friend.

No Nut November is a humorous internet challenge where men give up busting a nut–whether via masturbation (fap) or intercourse–for the entire month of November.

[gblowfish]

So...does this go for jacking off, too?

Asking for a friend.

Just look at this every morning then take a cold shower.

[KCUnited]

Unattractive Nerds Throughout History Swear By Not Having Sex

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Unattractive Nerds Throughout History Swear By Not Having Sex

This idea doesn't conflict with having sex. You don't have to get off every time.

[KCUnited]

This idea doesn't conflict with having sex. You don't have to get off every time.

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[EPodolak]

Out b4 poll.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Look man. Over millions of years of evolution our bodies are bred to produce as many progeny as possible in a lifetime. Do you know why? Because up until the last 200 or so years, life was ****ing hard. People ****ing died. Often. So from a biological standpoint we needed to spread our DNA. So that’s what we’re built to do.



Right. That's why we're able to regenerate quickly until we hit 25 or 30. Man isn't built to do the same at 35 or 40.

I'm mid-30s, and when I bust several in a short period of time, I feel like shit. 10 years ago, I would have felt no different. But when I space it out more, I feel fine afterward. There's no doubt in my mind that it's depleting.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence on reddit and all over the net about the benefits. More energy, better skin, hair growth, more muscle, better focus, confidence, women gravitating to you, yada yada. And studies have actually proven that testosterone increases after a week.

Saw a youtube video awhile ago about a 110ish year old guy from the east who looked about 30-40 years younger and was still really active. Retention was one of his secrets.

[limested]

Right. That's why we're able to regenerate quickly until we hit 25 or 30. Man isn't built to do the same at 35 or 40.

I'm mid-30s, and when I bust several in a short period of time, I feel like shit. 10 years ago, I would have felt no different. But when I space it out more, I feel fine afterward. There's no doubt in my mind that it's depleting.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence on reddit and all over the net about the benefits. More energy, better skin, hair growth, more muscle, better focus, confidence, women gravitating to you, yada yada. And studies have actually proven that testosterone increases after a week.

Saw a youtube video awhile ago about a 110ish year old guy from the east who looked about 30-40 years younger and was still really active. Retention was one of his secrets.
Sounds like you need gear.

[Imon Yourside]

This idea doesn't conflict with having sex. You don't have to get off every time.

You're confusing this with Blue Balls December.

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[Buehler445]

This idea doesn't conflict with having sex. You don't have to get off every time.

You’re doing sex wrong.

Right. That's why we're able to regenerate quickly until we hit 25 or 30. Man isn't built to do the same at 35 or 40.

I'm mid-30s, and when I bust several in a short period of time, I feel like shit. 10 years ago, I would have felt no different. But when I space it out more, I feel fine afterward. There's no doubt in my mind that it's depleting.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence on reddit and all over the net about the benefits. More energy, better skin, hair growth, more muscle, better focus, confidence, women gravitating to you, yada yada. And studies have actually proven that testosterone increases after a week.

Saw a youtube video awhile ago about a 110ish year old guy from the east who looked about 30-40 years younger and was still really active. Retention was one of his secrets.

Do you man.

I’d argue that discipline, in any fashion will yield you the same benefits. I’d suggest that going to the gym every day for a month and see most of the same benefits.

And if you show me a dude at 110, I’ll show you genetics. I can find people that live long lives smoking cigarettes every day. Doesn’t mean we should all smoke.

[Why Not?]

Even the most basic research shows that all medical evidence points to orgasm being one of the most healthy experiences you can have.

[kstater]

You know how I know you're gay?

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[Chief Roundup]

This was made up by some single 40 year old virgin looking for some sympathy to his plight.

[Coochie liquor]

People who can’t get laid are the only ones I can think of.

[BlackHelicopters]

I can go months. I’m a sexual camel.

[duncan_idaho]

Right. That's why we're able to regenerate quickly until we hit 25 or 30. Man isn't built to do the same at 35 or 40.

I'm mid-30s, and when I bust several in a short period of time, I feel like shit. 10 years ago, I would have felt no different. But when I space it out more, I feel fine afterward. There's no doubt in my mind that it's depleting.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence on reddit and all over the net about the benefits. More energy, better skin, hair growth, more muscle, better focus, confidence, women gravitating to you, yada yada. And studies have actually proven that testosterone increases after a week.

Saw a youtube video awhile ago about a 110ish year old guy from the east who looked about 30-40 years younger and was still really active. Retention was one of his secrets.


Do you believe the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism and you can gain powers by sun gazing?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

People who can’t get laid are the only ones I can think of.

I'm guessing that Steve Jobs, Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson had no problems getting laid.

[Third Eye]

Right. That's why we're able to regenerate quickly until we hit 25 or 30. Man isn't built to do the same at 35 or 40.

I'm mid-30s, and when I bust several in a short period of time, I feel like shit. 10 years ago, I would have felt no different. But when I space it out more, I feel fine afterward. There's no doubt in my mind that it's depleting.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence on reddit and all over the net about the benefits. More energy, better skin, hair growth, more muscle, better focus, confidence, women gravitating to you, yada yada. And studies have actually proven that testosterone increases after a week.

Saw a youtube video awhile ago about a 110ish year old guy from the east who looked about 30-40 years younger and was still really active. Retention was one of his secrets.

Based on this response, it sounds like you need to abstain from the internet, not ejaculation.

[dlphg9]

Longest I've ever managed is close to 3 weeks. From what I've read, you start seeing serious positives around a month.

For anyone who laughs at the idea, it makes plenty of sense. Spilling your seed depletes you of your damn lifeforce. If it's got enough nutrients, hormones etc to create a human being, it's probably not healthy to be dumping it 4 times a day.

When you're 25, you can regenerate quickly. Not the case the older you get.

Has no one noticed that when you get off multiple times in a short period, that you feel depleted and tired, or generally shitty?

Do the math.

Yep....

Plus, he was in college. You can get away with a lot at that age.

This isn't something totally obscure or weird. A lot of the most successful people in history swore by it. Steve Jobs, the Wright bros, Newton, Leonardo da Vinci, Beethoven, Tyson, Ali, Socrates...many boxers and philosphers. It's really common in the boxing world. Ali and Tyson wouldn't touch women for months before a fight.

Highly doubtful that it can cause cancer. I don't think there's any known correlation between celibate people and prostate cancer.

Regardless, the idea is just to reduce it, not to become a priest.

I definitely notice a difference when I go on streaks. More energy, better concentration, better skin, etc.

People talk about an "aura" and I think it's true. When I was on my longest streak (which was only like 19 days), I noticed people gravitated to me. When I fell off, the same people suddenly weren't. I think there's something to it.

But the real shit supposedly starts to happen around a month. I've never held out that long.

This idea doesn't conflict with having sex. You don't have to get off every time.

Right. That's why we're able to regenerate quickly until we hit 25 or 30. Man isn't built to do the same at 35 or 40.

I'm mid-30s, and when I bust several in a short period of time, I feel like shit. 10 years ago, I would have felt no different. But when I space it out more, I feel fine afterward. There's no doubt in my mind that it's depleting.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence on reddit and all over the net about the benefits. More energy, better skin, hair growth, more muscle, better focus, confidence, women gravitating to you, yada yada. And studies have actually proven that testosterone increases after a week.

Saw a youtube video awhile ago about a 110ish year old guy from the east who looked about 30-40 years younger and was still really active. Retention was one of his secrets.

Seriously where in the hell are you coming up with this shit? Most recent studies have shown that ejaculation lessens the risk of prostate cancer. There was only one study that actually showed an increased risk of prostate cancer due to frequent ejaculation, but that was in people that were in there 20s to 30s and even that study showed a decrease in the risk of prostate cancer in those that ejaculated when they were 50. Most new research however says that bustin a nut is a good thing.

You get exhausted when busting a nut multiple times, did you ever think that's because sex is a pretty intense work out (another benefit). You keep saying all this stuff that has no merit. I think you need to be checked out by a doctor. You may have a problem.

[dlphg9]

Based on this response, it sounds like you need to abstain from the internet, not ejaculation.

No no no. He needs the internet, so that he can figure out facts and not use his thoughts to come up with shit like this.

[TLO]

My wife is on the rag and I've got tonsillitis, so I'm down until those 2 things end.

Pics of wife?

[dlphg9]

Do you believe the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism and you can gain powers by sun gazing?

Well one time he went on a run, started sweating, and became tired, it never made him that tired when he was younger. This brought him to the conclusion that sweat plays a vital role in maintaining optimal health. He has since coated himself in rubber cement to keep his pores from releasing the body's life water, sweat.

[dlphg9]

Pics of wife?

Id like to see her rag.

[TLO]

Id like to see her rag.

lambs:louder::bolt::fear::bolt:

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Seriously where in the hell are you coming up with this shit? Most recent studies have shown that ejaculation lessens the risk of prostate cancer. There was only one study that actually showed an increased risk of prostate cancer due to frequent ejaculation, but that was in people that were in there 20s to 30s and even that study showed a decrease in the risk of prostate cancer in those that ejaculated when they were 50. Most new research however says that bustin a nut is a good thing.

You get exhausted when busting a nut multiple times, did you ever think that's because sex is a pretty intense work out (another benefit). You keep saying all this stuff that has no merit. I think you need to be checked out by a doctor. You may have a problem.

It's not just exhaustion. It's a malaise. Sometimes an instant headache. If I bang but don't get off, I'm fine. Again, it's only if I bust a lot in a short period of time. I could do that at 20 or 25. Not at 35.

Seems like it would be hard to prove that ejaculating lessens the risk of cancer. But rising levels of testosterone is very easy to verify.

There's a huge subreddit devoted to this, and a lot of other sources. All of their experiences are similar. I noticed some of these things myself to a lesser extent, but again, I've never even gone 3 weeks.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Sounds like you need gear.

I've done TRT off and on. Pretty modest dose.

Honestly, I wish I'd never messed with it. Some great benefits at times, but overall it seems like it's just thrown my body out of balance and messed up my thyroid. Plus, I'm not convinced there aren't longterm effects.

[loochy]

It's not just exhaustion. It's a malaise. Sometimes an instant headache. If I bang but don't get off, I'm fine. Again, it's only if I bust a lot in a short period of time. I could do that at 20 or 25. Not at 35.

You have a medical issue. Please visit your urologist.

[loochy]

I've done TRT off and on. Pretty modest dose.

Honestly, I wish I'd never messed with it. Some great benefits at times, but overall it seems like it's just thrown my body out of balance and messed up my thyroid. Plus, I'm not convinced there aren't longterm effects.

Because you've gone on and off...

I'm on 200 a week and life is great (and I cum without headaches or whatever weird shit you get)

[BryanBusby]

Id like to see her rag.
Pop on one of those crime scene shows and it'll be similar

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Because you've gone on and off...

I'm on 200 a week and life is great (and I cum without headaches or whatever weird shit you get)

For the most part, it was okay until the last time I came off. That was hell for a solid 2-3 months. The only difference is that I used HCG on that cycle. I’ve read that HCG can stimulate the thyroid, which I don’t necessarily want.

So you’ve had no negative effects or changes? No hair loss or skin issues? Do you use HCG or an AI?

[Pablo]

Ejaculation will keep you sane. Whether you're a DIYer or a seasoned orifice wrecker, you gotta get that evil out of your body.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

RaidersOftheCialis

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

The cum can dump into the bladder. The give it a rest rocks, will rip your peephole to shreds

[limested]

For the most part, it was okay until the last time I came off. That was hell for a solid 2-3 months. The only difference is that I used HCG on that cycle. I’ve read that HCG can stimulate the thyroid, which I don’t necessarily want.

So you’ve had no negative effects or changes? No hair loss or skin issues? Do you use HCG or an AI?
You should not be coming off TRT. It is a life long decision. HCG might prevent body from producing test but not guaranteed.

AI is only needed if estrogen is high.

Now if you are running true gear then you should cycle. But again, AI only if estrogen high an at risk of gyno.

[Eureka]

You really want to take the Mike Tyson approach to life? He was essentially brainwashed to be a machine in the ring.

But yeah. Sure. Use Tyson as a model for success.

Jobs too. Didn’t he have a kid during those apple years?

And most of those philosophers were ****ing boys.

Look man. Over millions of years of evolution our bodies are bred to produce as many progeny as possible in a lifetime. Do you know why? Because up until the last 200 or so years, life was ****ing hard. People ****ing died. Often. So from a biological standpoint we needed to spread our DNA. So that’s what we’re built to do. Only in the last what, 5 generations have we been able to keep people from ****ing dying. So life is comfortable and you don’t need to have 10 kids because 8 of them will die.

Go ahead. Don’t cum. No skin off my back. But to espouse what you are is criminal. This is anecdotal at best with no where near enough data to even draw correlation much less causation. But do you man. Look at millions of years of biology and think you know better.


Many many years ago the Chinese practiced boning without busting. Their thought was busting would take away from their inner strength.

[WhiteWhale]

I thought people just grew beards in November.

When did month long celibacy become a trend?

[WhiteWhale]

Many many years ago the Chinese practiced boning without busting. Their thought was busting would take away from their inner strength.

You ever been to China?

There's, like, a LOT of people. Always has been. They've been thinking of reasons to convince people to stop boning for centuries.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

You should not be coming off TRT. It is a life long decision. HCG might prevent body from producing test but not guaranteed.

AI is only needed if estrogen is high.

Now if you are running true gear then you should cycle. But again, AI only if estrogen high an at risk of gyno.

Natural production can bounce back to at least pre-TRT numbers. But it can take several months in some cases and be hell for awhile. Although I hear that Clomid can help a lot.

I try to avoid AIs but it has a tendency to get high. Especially if I use HCG. But from my experience, bottoming out on estrogen is definitely worse. Some people say that high estrogen doesn’t present any problems, but I don’t buy that. I think it needs to be kept in a fairly narrow window for optimal results. Which is tough.

My main problem is that I think I respond negatively to HCG. Yet I think you need HCG at least occasionally for optimal function. Shutting down the HPTA axis for long periods of time can’t be good.

[limested]

Natural production can bounce back to at least pre-TRT numbers. But it can take several months in some cases and be hell for awhile. Although I hear that Clomid can help a lot.

I try to avoid AIs but it has a tendency to get high. Especially if I use HCG. But from my experience, bottoming out on estrogen is definitely worse. Some people say that high estrogen doesn’t present any problems, but I don’t buy that. I think it needs to be kept in a fairly narrow window for optimal results. Which is tough.

My main problem is that I think I respond negatively to HCG. Yet I think you need HCG at least occasionally for optimal function. Shutting down the HPTA axis for long periods of time can’t be good.

You are clueless.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

You are clueless.

About what? Natural production bouncing back?

[Mr. Kotter]

Holy crap...you guys are a bunch of friggin' weirdos.....may God have mercy on your souls... :doh!:

[limested]

About what? Natural production bouncing back?

About everything you have spouted in this thread.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

About everything you have spouted in this thread.

If you think I’m wrong about the TRT ideas, then set me straight.

But this stuff is highly individual.

If it were as easy as “do this, take that,” then there wouldn’t be forums full of guys bitching about their experiences.

[limested]

If you think I’m wrong about the TRT ideas, then set me straight.

But this stuff is highly individual.

If it were as easy as “do this, take that,” then there wouldn’t be forums full of guys bitching about their experiences.

The majority of that are guys who have doctors that don’t know what they are doing or the are self prescribing.

There is an art to proper dosage and administration of the injections.

What you have described is a classic symptom of peaks and valleys in test levels.

[Fish]

If you think I’m wrong about the TRT ideas, then set me straight.

But this stuff is highly individual.

If it were as easy as “do this, take that,” then there wouldn’t be forums full of guys bitching about their experiences.

LMAO.... or perhaps you're taking the wrong meaning from that...

[Easy 6]

Sounds boring, no thanks

[RaidersOftheCellar]

The majority of that are guys who have doctors that don’t know what they are doing or the are self prescribing.

There is an art to proper dosage and administration of the injections.

What you have described is a classic symptom of peaks and valleys in test levels.

What symptom?

Some people aromatize more than others. Some can keep their estrogen in check without drugs and some can’t.

Different people can have different responses to the same dose. Dosing can really get tricky when you introduce HCG.

So what’s your routine?

[limested]

Unless you are trying to stay fertile avoid the HCG. It can and will cause many to feel like crap.

Split doses of TRT up to a minimum of twice weekly to better mimic your natural highs and lows. Going as long as once a week you are going from a peak to the a very low valley which will make you feel like shit as well.

You are correct about everyone aromatizing differently.

I have been pretty lucky. I am maintaining a total t of 865 ng/dL with a free T of 22.8 ph/mL (slightly high free test) and my Estradiol is only at 24.3 pg/mL (almost half of upper limit.)

I run a combo of 200 mg cyp and 5 mg prop. I pin every 3.5 days. With cyp having a half life of 8 days and prop 4 days it allows me to have a fairly steady level of test without high peaks and low valleys.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Unless you are trying to stay fertile avoid the HCG. It can and will cause many to feel like crap.

Split doses of TRT up to a minimum of twice weekly to better mimic your natural highs and lows. Going as long as once a week you are going from a peak to the a very low valley which will make you feel like shit as well.

You are correct about everyone aromatizing differently.

I have been pretty lucky. I am maintaining a total t of 865 ng/dL with a free T of 22.8 ph/mL (slightly high free test) and my Estradiol is only at 24.3 pg/mL (almost half of upper limit.)

I run a combo of 200 mg cyp and 5 mg prop. I pin every 3.5 days. With cyp having a half life of 8 days and prop 4 days it allows me to have a fairly steady level of test without high peaks and low valleys.

I used to use 200mg cyp, but lately I’ve dropped to around 150 to try to keep e2 in check. My e2 can easily get into the 60s if I don’t manage it. But it’s also easy for me to crash it with an AI. It’s a pain in the ass. Hard to find just the right protocol without constant bloodwork.

I divide into two doses per week.

[Titty Meat]

I lasted all of 6 hrs

[kcxiv]

Seen that Rage against the Machine reuniting and it ended 5 min later! lol

[Tribal Warfare]

That shit is for quitters

[Chargem]

I used to use 200mg cyp, but lately I’ve dropped to around 150 to try to keep e2 in check. My e2 can easily get into the 60s if I don’t manage it. But it’s also easy for me to crash it with an AI. It’s a pain in the ass. Hard to find just the right protocol without constant bloodwork.

I divide into two doses per week.

I'm totally ignorant on whatever it is you're talking about. Why are you doing whatever you are doing?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

I'm totally ignorant on whatever it is you're talking about. Why are you doing whatever you are doing?

It’s testosterone replacement therapy.

At 30 or 31, I found out I had pretty low testosterone levels for my age, and I was losing some muscle, had low energy, etc. So I started therapy through a hormone clinic.

But if I could go back, I’d probably never touch it. More important than having high testosterone is having all hormones in balance, and that’s very difficult to maintain when taking testosterone.

I wish I had just gone the natural route and used herbs and vitamins, gotten better sleep, more exercise, etc.

I plan to get off it soon and go that route, but it’s going to be rough. The last time I came off, I felt like shit for months. Not looking forward to it.

[MahiMike]

Does this include cashews? I love cashews.

[limested]

Seen that Rage against the Machine reuniting and it ended 5 min later! lol
Why? Such an overrated band.

[limested]

It’s testosterone replacement therapy.

At 30 or 31, I found out I had pretty low testosterone levels for my age, and I was losing some muscle, had low energy, etc. So I started therapy through a hormone clinic.

But if I could go back, I’d probably never touch it. More important than having high testosterone is having all hormones in balance, and that’s very difficult to maintain when taking testosterone.

I wish I had just gone the natural route and used herbs and vitamins, gotten better sleep, more exercise, etc.

I plan to get off it soon and go that route, but it’s going to be rough. The last time I came off, I felt like shit for months. Not looking forward to it.
You just explained why you have issues. The clinics are all about $ not doing what is best.

They will put people on TRT that are well within normal ranges.

You should find a doc that specializes in hormone therapy for men.

[gblowfish]

Sometimes you feel like a nut.
Sometimes....
Don't kid yourself. I always feel like a nut.

[Hoopsdoc]

LMAO

I love this place.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

You just explained why you have issues. The clinics are all about $ not doing what is best.

They will put people on TRT that are well within normal ranges.

You should find a doc that specializes in hormone therapy for men.

True, but I think the main problem is that I appear to have a rare thyroid disorder. And I think there's a chance that TRT has made it worse. Or the HCG, or both.

[Fish]

Those Low T places are a damn racket. They'll convince some poor schmuck that he's not a man anymore because their test says so right there. They conveniently have a solution for it though, which is crazy expensive and ohh yeah by the way you have to continue it the rest of your life or you might turn into a woman or something. Sign here for your monthly payment plan.

[limested]

Those Low T places are a damn racket. They'll convince some poor schmuck that he's not a man anymore because their test says so right there. They conveniently have a solution for it though, which is crazy expensive and ohh yeah by the way you have to continue it the rest of your life or you might turn into a woman or something. Sign here for your monthly payment plan.

Exactly. Much less expensive to go to a real doctor that specializes in hormone therapy. My treatment is only $96 for the test cyp/prop every 4 months.

[Rasputin]

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[kcxiv]

Why? Such an overrated band.

negative! Its always in my playlist.

[rtmike]

A c’mon guys. You can do it.
It’s easy. I’ve stayed strong since the day after Thanksgiving ‘03.
For whatever I knocked it out during Red Dread. You know how you initially always think a bit after knockin that nutt everywhere? I was like, what’s the big deal. If we do it, it’s usually in the shower, hmmmm.
Ol lady was pulling out all her tricks trying to get me not to go, smh.

[KCUnited]

Seen that Rage against the Machine reuniting and it ended 5 min later! lol

https://i.imgur.com/Knw4cMC.jpg?1