Cowherd thinks the Raiders are better than the Chiefs

[Jerok]

I used to think he was worth a listen. His Baker drama is hilarious and he was right about that. Now I have to rethink all of my opinions. I just don't get it. We're going to destroy them in 2 weeks. Maybe he knows Chiefs kingdom will be angry as hell and the Raiders will want to listen and he'll get all the listeners and clicks.

The media's takeaway from this game isn't "The defense won a game when their offense was down" it is "Rivers gave it up, Chiefs suck lol"

His power rankings:
10: Chiefs
9: Raiders
8. Cowboys
7. Vikings
6. Packers
5. SF
4. Seattle
3. New England
2. Saints
1. Ravens

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">10. Kansas City Chiefs<br>9. Oakland Raiders<br>8. ??<br>7. ??<br>6. ??<br>5. ??<br>4. ??<br>3. New England Patriots<br>2. ??<br>1. ??<a href="https://twitter.com/ColinCowherd?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ColinCowherd</a> unveils his Herd Hierarchy after Week 11: <a href="https://t.co/pA8ANrpyes">pic.twitter.com/pA8ANrpyes</a></p>&mdash; Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1196879656818892801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Kiimo]

His monologue this morning was absolute trash.

The problem with Cowherd is that his ENTIRE analysis is eye test. That's it.

Only it doesn't apply to Brady. He's like what do the Chiefs do well? Well last night they did a lot well that doesn't apply to Mahomes.

He's the fucking worst.

[Buehler445]

He’s on record a million places saying he’s in the entertainment business.

He’s looking to rile fucks. That’s all.

[UChieffyBugger]

He constantly says "Mahomes doesn't win the big games and loses in prime time"...we win a game in prime time and he still babbles a bunch of nonsense...that's just the way he is.

[Kiimo]

He likes two players: Brady and Wilson and only Wilson because he's from Seattle.




But I work at Fox and his stupid show is on everywhere

[JakeF]

Cowherd is just another skip Bayless with a different schtick. They want attention and ratings.

[Frazod]

We've looked like hammered up shit lately. Loss upon loss, key injury upon key injury, stupidity upon stupidity. The offense is a shadow of what it was in 2018, and the defense is only marginally better.

We've got problems. This is not a team that's playing like it's a threat to dethrone the Cheatriots right now, and that's just a fact.

[ModSocks]

The media's takeaway from this game isn't "The defense won a game when their offense was down" it is "Rivers gave it up, Chiefs suck lol"

His power rankings:
10: Chiefs
9: Raiders
8. Cowboys
7. Vikings
6. Packers
5. SF
4. Seattle
3. New England
2. Saints
1. Ravens



Pretty understandable IMO. Both the Chargers and Chiefs continued to do their bad things, bad. Chiefs run D woes continued. But the Chargers Phillip Rivers problem also continued.

I know we won, but i didnt walk away from last night feeling any different.

Right now our offense is up and down, we haven't shown the ability to close out a game, our run defense is STILL highly suspect and our special teams is starting to show cracks.

The situational playcalling has been questionable, we still lack a run game and our backs and receivers have been fumble/mistake prone.

If our offense were bullet proof like it was last season the narrative would be different i can assure you.

Right now i think it's understandable why pundits would have their doubts.

With that said, fuck the pundits.

[ModSocks]

We've looked like hammered up shit lately. Loss upon loss, key injury upon key injury, stupidity upon stupidity. The offense is a shadow of what it was in 2018, and the defense is only marginally better.

We've got problems. This is not a team that's playing like it's a threat to dethrone the Cheatriots right now, and that's just a fact.

Yup, straight fact.

Can't get mad at pundits for that.

These are the same people who picked the Chiefs to go the SB.

The Chiefs made them change their minds. They can get hot and make them change their minds again. That's all their is to it.

[Kiimo]

This game was not a good microscope to let anybody know who the Chiefs or the Chargers actually are.

Also it's not like the Patriots don't have problems of their own.

[Red Dawg]

I really hope Hill plays. We will find out in two weeks who rules the division.

[KChiefs1]

Only reason to watch is Joy Taylor.

[Molitoth]

I don't even have to listen to Cowherd to know he may be right.

The Chiefs are not a good team right now.

See Detoxings post.

[ChiTown]

Well, if/when we get healthy and if/when we can play a complete game, maybe we’ll convince some people (and our fans) that we are a legit contender. Until such time, I have no issue with his rankings........primarily because they don’t mean shit to me.

[Prison Bitch]

So? They might be. We are 1-3 vs the AFC South

[DaFace]

Seems like a fair assessment. Our ceiling is far higher, but it's hard to say our performance this season has been definitively better than theirs.

[TLO]

So? They might be. We are 1-3 vs the AFC South

Damn. The "vs the AFC South" is the #1 tiebreaker too! We're fucked.

[Prison Bitch]

In Sagarin recent ratings, we are a -2 fave. So basically close.

[Hoover]

Good. Let him.

They beat the Bengals by 7.

I can see them losing to the Jets

[notorious]

He’s on record a million places saying he’s in the entertainment business.

He’s looking to rile ****s. That’s all.

This guy gets it.

[notorious]

Cowherd loves Reid and he ranked the Chiefs highly to start the season.

The Chiefs have disappointed so far. I actually agree with him on this one.

[Reerun_KC]

Seems like a fair assessment. Our ceiling is far higher, but it's hard to say our performance this season has been definitively better than theirs.

They are just as good as the chiefs. You are who your record says you are.

Just because CP says someone sucks is pretty much meaningless anymore.

[comochiefsfan]

Honestly, they might be.

Chiefs need to reestablish dominance on December 1st.

Unfortunately I’m not sure that Fat Andy is up to the task.

[Kiimo]

Cowherd loves Reid and he ranked the Chiefs highly to start the season.

The Chiefs have disappointed so far. I actually agree with him on this one.

He's not right about the Raiders.



That shit is smoke and mirrors, their own fans are saying it.

[scho63]

There is a very strong chance the Raiders lose to the Jets in NJ next week.

[smithandrew051]

Honestly, they might be.

Chiefs need to reestablish dominance on December 1st.

Unfortunately I’m not sure that Fat Andy is up to the task.

Everything is in Reid’s favor against Oakland:

Coming off a bye week
Team getting healthier and healthier
Division opponent
Home game
Not a Thursday night game
Not prime time
Chiefs have significant QB advantage

That has pretty much always equaled a win for Reid in KC.

[RealSNR]

We spanked their asses with no WRs and no Eric Fisher.

Gruden has little man syndrome when it comes to Andy Reid. They have been compared their entire tenure as NFL coaches going back to Green Bay. When is the last time Gruden got the best of Reid?

[Hammock Parties]

we are about to buttfuck everyone

as soon as we beat NE our cocks are getting slobbed

the challenge will be for reid not to let this team stop grinding after

[Halfcan]

So a team we beat handily and is behind us in the standings is Better than us?

Yeah, okay....

[Halfcan]

Seems like a fair assessment. Our ceiling is far higher, but it's hard to say our performance this season has been definitively better than theirs.

Except beating them in their shitty stadium.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> secondary played an integral part in Monday night’s win<br><br>• 72.8 Team Coverage grade (2nd best of 2019 for KC)<br><br>• 4 highest-graded defenders were all defensive backs with 75+ coverage grades and 1 missed tackle in 19 attempts<a href="https://t.co/MwJHzSB3OP">https://t.co/MwJHzSB3OP</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1196859670293622784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DaFace]

Except beating them in their shitty stadium.

It's about trendlines for me. Are the Chiefs playing better today than they were at that game? Are the Raiders playing better today than they were at that game? I still think we beat them in a couple weeks, but it's hardly an easy pick.

[FloridaMan88]

The Raiders struggled to beat the Bengals on Sunday and they beat the Chargers in the same way the Chiefs did (close game, relying on Phyllis’ turnovers) and now they are suddenly better than the Chiefs?

The Chiefs curb stomped them in week two... that is the indicator for who is better.

[PunkinDrublic]

Dude if you don’t know the shtick of these national talking heads by now, I don’t know what to tell you. It’s what they have to do for attention. The Faid have been so mediocre to bad for so long that they’re going to get overrated when they play halfway decent.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Why is Robinson not getting the ball more??

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WR AVG Yards of Separation Leaders Week 10:<br><br>Demarcus Robinson - 4.5<br>Hunter Renfrow - 3.8<br>Taylor Gabriel - 3.7<br>Cole Beasley - 3.6<br>Diontae Johnson - 3.5<br><br>It’s not often that you see a rookie run routes as smoothly as Johnson.<a href="https://t.co/ZgUF2hzscW">pic.twitter.com/ZgUF2hzscW</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Valente (@StatsGuyDaniel) <a href="https://twitter.com/StatsGuyDaniel/status/1194668983653470208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Baby Lee]

The Raiders struggled to beat the Bengals on Sunday and they beat the Chargers in the same way the Chiefs did (close game, relying on Phyllis’ turnovers) and now they are suddenly better than the Chiefs?

The Chiefs curb stomped them in week two... that is the indicator for who is better.

Let's not get that first meeting twisted, Mahomes went HAM for the 2nd quarter and demoralized the shit out of the entire squad, but they were dominating us early with that same old same old ball control and TOP drudgery that our defense is susceptible to.

10-0 in 1Q, with like a 2:1 TOP edge.

[Why Not?]

My only issue with those rankings, aside from the facts that rankings in pro sports are silly to begin with, is the Raiders being ahead of KC. I can get the Vikings because they have a better overall record but the Chiefs have more wins than the Raiders, are alone in first place in the division they share, and beat the Raiders in a non competitive game head to head.

[Hammock Parties]

Why is Robinson not getting the ball more??


https://www.epmmagazine.com/downloads/6747/download/Pressure.jpg?cb=4de81a82c29761925ac63a2afb03bcf7&w=640

[FloridaMan88]

Let's not get that first meeting twisted, Mahomes went HAM for the 2nd quarter and demoralized the shit out of the entire squad, but they were dominating us early with that same old same old ball control and TOP drudgery that our defense is susceptible to.

10-0 in 1Q, with like a 2:1 TOP edge.

Chiefs showed up for one quarter against them in week 2 and still won 28-10 without Tyreek, Damien Williams, Fisher and Mahomes on a bad ankle.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Sign him Veach!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the transaction wire: Free agent RB Alex Collins is no longer suspended and eligible to sign. He’s also healthy from a broken leg and can work out for teams. <a href="https://t.co/pdzO1Wz75w">pic.twitter.com/pdzO1Wz75w</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1196928511094722562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BigRedChief]

Lots of talking heads think the Raiders are going to win the division due to our defense.

[BigRedChief]

It's about trendlines for me. Are the Chiefs playing better today than they were at that game? Are the Raiders playing better today than they were at that game? I still think we beat them in a couple weeks, but it's hardly an easy pick.same thing with the Ravens. Lamar played good in Arrowhead. We got the win. Any rematch in Baltimore, we’d better bring our “A” game.

[MahomesMagic]

Raiders 11th overall DVOA

1 Patriots
2 Ravens
3 Chiefs

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2019/week-11-dvoa-ratings

[Jerm]

He’s on record a million places saying he’s in the entertainment business.

He’s looking to rile fucks. That’s all.

Pretty much...I always reference something Petro said, to paraphrase...he basically said guys like Cowherd look at their demos and whatever cities they're struggling in, they'll start banging on the local team there or say something controversial to incite clicks, views, etc.

Also The Athletic did a video piece on him and if you watch it, he's clearly in it for the entertainment aspect of it. It's actually pretty good.

[WhawhaWhat]

Cowherd = Kietzman but on a bigger stage.

[PAChiefsGuy]

It's about trendlines for me. Are the Chiefs playing better today than they were at that game? Are the Raiders playing better today than they were at that game? I still think we beat them in a couple weeks, but it's hardly an easy pick.

I agree completely. Lots of homer takes in here.

Despite the win against the Chargers Chiefs do not look like a great team right now and Tyreek is starting to look like he is made of glass. Chiefs should be alright against the Raiders due to bye week but I'm not confident in this team at all.

[Easy 6]

No he doesn’t... that guy is one of the most transparent clickbait merchants I’ve ever seen, always doing a complete 180 on what he’d just doubled down on 24 hours prior

I’d rather listen to cats fight before giving him another second of my time

[TEX]

He also pick the Bolts to win the division. LMAO

[FloridaMan88]

Raiders have a “positive trend line” based on what?

The fact they barely beat the hapless Bengals last week?

The fact they barely beat the Chargers the week before that? Interesting how when the Chiefs beat the Chargers in a similar close manner it is considered an unimpressive victory.

And before that the Raiders barely beat the Lions in Oakland (similar to how the Chiefs held the Lions off in Detroit).

[GoHuge]

I think the guy is a ****in clown, but saying the Faid is better than us right now is something you could argue. They are ascending some and we're well, definitely in need of a bye week to get shit back together again.

[notorious]

Lots of talking heads think the Raiders are going to win the division due to our defense.

Meh, that's what they all hear and repeat for ratings.

We know what the best team is, and it's not close if they play to their potential.

[T-post Tom]

ESPN & NFL Network postgame analysts like the faid to win the division. Yet depending on the model, Chiefs have an 85% to 95% chance of winning the division according to those same networks. :doh!:

[NWTF]

I think the guy is a ****in clown, but saying the Faid is better than us right now is something you could argue. They are ascending some and we're well, definitely in need of a bye week to get shit back together again.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the Raiders are overachieving while the Chiefs are underachieving, but people just see them with almost identical records. Grudens doing well with the talent he has while Andy is not. These things usually straighten themselves out.

Another way of looking at it is the Raiders are playing at their ceiling while at the same time the Chiefs have been playing at their floor. Again, these things straighten themselves out.

[notorious]

Another way of looking at it is the Raiders are playing at their ceiling while at the same time the Chiefs have been playing at their floor. Again, these things straighten themselves out.

Damn, you really summed it up well here. That's the best explanation I've seen.

[Buehler445]

Why is Robinson not getting the ball more??

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WR AVG Yards of Separation Leaders Week 10:<br><br>Demarcus Robinson - 4.5<br>Hunter Renfrow - 3.8<br>Taylor Gabriel - 3.7<br>Cole Beasley - 3.6<br>Diontae Johnson - 3.5<br><br>It’s not often that you see a rookie run routes as smoothly as Johnson.<a href="https://t.co/ZgUF2hzscW">pic.twitter.com/ZgUF2hzscW</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Valente (@StatsGuyDaniel) <a href="https://twitter.com/StatsGuyDaniel/status/1194668983653470208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sign him Veach!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the transaction wire: Free agent RB Alex Collins is no longer suspended and eligible to sign. He’s also healthy from a broken leg and can work out for teams. <a href="https://t.co/pdzO1Wz75w">pic.twitter.com/pdzO1Wz75w</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1196928511094722562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You have the least capacity to make posts on the topic as anyone I've ever seen ever. And I'm getting to be an old man.

[FloridaMan88]

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the Raiders are overachieving while the Chiefs are underachieving, but people just see them with almost identical records. Grudens doing well with the talent he has while Andy is not. These things usually straighten themselves out.

Another way of looking at it is the Raiders are playing at their ceiling while at the same time the Chiefs have been playing at their floor. Again, these things straighten themselves out.

Agreed it is relative based on expectations and how both teams were playing earlier in the season.

[splatbass]

Cowherd is an idiot. Probably never even seen the Chiefs or Raiders play. Just stirring up shit for ratings.

[notorious]

Cowherd is an idiot. Probably never even seen the Chiefs or Raiders play. Just stirring up shit for ratings.

He is quite the opposite of an idiot. He is smart, and knows exactly how to tweak people for ratings.

[smithandrew051]

He is quite the opposite of an idiot. He is smart, and knows exactly how to tweak people for ratings.

Possibly, but he can still FUCK OFF!!!

[Baby Lee]

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the Raiders are overachieving while the Chiefs are underachieving, but people just see them with almost identical records. Grudens doing well with the talent he has while Andy is not. These things usually straighten themselves out.

Another way of looking at it is the Raiders are playing at their ceiling while at the same time the Chiefs have been playing at their floor. Again, these things straighten themselves out.

The irony of a fanbase of a team which hasn't been to the SB in 50 YEARS citing the law of averages. ;)