View Full Version : Food and Drink Arthur Bryants Down to Original Location
gblowfish
12-03-2019, 10:17 AM
Closing their KCK Legends location:
https://www.kmbc.com/article/kc-bbq-favorite-arthur-bryant-s-restaurant-closes-legends-location/30103153?fbclid=IwAR0Ci3htkLD1IZ7-ATv4LkV_Y0bqbsNm3oNG4od7JzYGwZkbcahm1bqcNm8
POND_OF_RED
12-03-2019, 10:20 AM
They could close them all as long as they still make that sweet heat sauce for the stores. The quality of there smoked meats has progressively gotten worse over the years. I love that sweet heat sauce though.
smithandrew051
12-03-2019, 10:21 AM
The Legends location was terrible the times that I went
Halfcan
12-03-2019, 10:25 AM
From what I was told after they closed up at Ameristar- was a Florida guy came through town and liked the place, so bought them out.
Once that happened- all the quality and management went downhill. The Ameristar was a pretty hopping location and excellent food at one time. I am not sure how you could mess that up so bad, it was a golden goose.
POND_OF_RED
12-03-2019, 10:33 AM
From what I was told after they closed up at Ameristar- was a Florida guy came through town and liked the place, so bought them out.
Once that happened- all the quality and management went downhill. The Ameristar was a pretty hopping location and excellent food at one time. I am not sure how you could mess that up so bad, it was a golden goose.
You ever eaten BBQ in Florida? That state can fuck up anything.
TambaBerry
12-03-2019, 10:40 AM
always though them and gates were overrated terrible bbq
Buehler445
12-03-2019, 10:42 AM
The Legends location was terrible the times that I went
It was hit or miss. We always stayed out there when we went to Royals and Chiefs games. I don't remember how many times we went to AB but they weren't all bad. Some certainly were though.
always though them and gates were overrated terrible bbq
A hit man has been dispatched.
TribalElder
12-03-2019, 10:44 AM
I still haven't ever eaten there
they will probably close before I get around to it
Halfcan
12-03-2019, 10:47 AM
You ever eaten BBQ in Florida? That state can **** up anything.
ROFL
Yep, my uncle lived in Orlando. It was like boiled meat with ketchup on it when we ate out at a BBQ place.
Halfcan
12-03-2019, 10:50 AM
I still haven't ever eaten there
they will probably close before I get around to it
Pretty sure there was a huge write up about the original AB location having rats, roaches and disgusting health violations. I don't think I will ever risk going there- ever.
I can buy their sauce and make my own awesome BBQ at home instead of risking some black dude wiping his ass on a rack of ribs and then serving them to me.
Red Dawg
12-03-2019, 10:55 AM
A hit man has been dispatched.
No shit. Gates is not terrible by any standards.
Beef Supreme
12-03-2019, 10:59 AM
Pretty sure there was a huge write up about the original AB location having rats, roaches and disgusting health violations. I don't think I will ever risk going there- ever.
I can buy their sauce and make my own awesome BBQ at home instead of risking some black dude wiping his ass on a rack of ribs and then serving them to me.
Where do you think all that extra flavor comes from? You can't get that at home.
Shiver Me Timbers
12-03-2019, 11:00 AM
Back in the 70s and early 80s it was some of the best Q you could get anywhere,
went back to the original location this past year and it was not the same.
I think the new generation is lacking the passion Arthur had.
That whole neighborhood has changed. I had not been down there for 10 years and it feels safer now...................
Shiver Me Timbers
12-03-2019, 11:03 AM
...............
I can buy their sauce and make my own awesome BBQ at home instead of risking some black dude wiping his ass on a rack of ribs and then serving them to me.
LMAO
Kman34
12-03-2019, 11:09 AM
Last time I ate there it was terrible... not a fan of their sauce... Gates is better..
ChiliConCarnage
12-03-2019, 11:13 AM
I tried the Legends location twice and was pretty disappointed. They gave you a shitload of food still but it wasn't great. Still like the sauce
rabblerouser
12-03-2019, 11:13 AM
Pretty sure there was a huge write up about the original AB location having rats, roaches and disgusting health violations. I don't think I will ever risk going there- ever.
I can buy their sauce and make my own awesome BBQ at home instead of risking some black dude wiping his ass on a rack of ribs and then serving them to me.
ROFL
LMAO
dj56dt58
12-03-2019, 12:19 PM
No shit. Gates is not terrible by any standards.
I finally made it there earlier this year..Will go back
redfan
12-03-2019, 12:44 PM
Their orig sauce is unique, I've never had anything like it.
Last time I ate there it was terrible... not a fan of their sauce... Gates is better..
Back in the 60's my Dad would take me to Bryants then to Municipal Stadium to watch the Chiefs. That sauce runs through my veins. Sometimes I simply LONG for a Bryant's Beef sandwich, fries and a Red Cream Soda. I get it, the sauce is love it or hate it. But, for me, it is comfort food. And all KC bbq comes from Gate's or Bryants. They both learned from the same man...then went off on their own.... But they were the ONLY gig in town.
Look, I am not a big fan of Muddy Waters, or BB King....but I understand their importance.... That. That is Gates and Arthur Bryant's. My BBQ mecca.
stevieray
12-03-2019, 01:12 PM
Look, I am not a big fan of Muddy Waters, or BB King....
I'm so, so very sorry.
I ate at the orignal not too long ago.
Delish!
xbarretx
12-03-2019, 01:17 PM
always though they were overrated terrible bbq. Gates & Sons is where its at!
FYP. :clap:
banecat
12-03-2019, 01:56 PM
I went there for the first time in years a couple of weeks ago. It's nothing like the downtown location. But still probably better than half of the BBQ joints in the area. It was never busy. My guess is only when the race was in town. Out of towners don't know any better, but at least Jazz is still by there if I'm out there and get hungry
cdcox
12-03-2019, 07:15 PM
Their orig sauce is unique, I've never had anything like it.
It is fantastic on brisket.
rabblerouser
12-03-2019, 07:31 PM
It is fantastic on brisket.
Agreed. Original Bryant's sauce is fantastic.
Bearcat
12-03-2019, 07:40 PM
Gates is not terrible by any standards.
It's the cool thing to say.... things are terrible or garbage.
(hyperbole aside, there are relatively few foods/drinks that I find terrible, so I find such comments very strange... like raisins. Raisins are terrible.)
OnTheWarpath15
12-03-2019, 07:43 PM
No shit. Gates is not terrible by any standards.
It's all relative.
Live in Bumblefuck, ND?
Gates is fucking amazing.
Live in KC or STL?
Gates is well towards the bottom of available options, IMO.
banecat
12-03-2019, 07:44 PM
Gates on 103rd wasn't good for a long time. But in the past year or so it's gotten better
rabblerouser
12-03-2019, 07:44 PM
Look, I am not a big fan of Muddy Waters, or BB King....
well, you're not ever going to win any CP King O'Dem Blooze titles then.
Hammock Parties
12-03-2019, 07:54 PM
I've never been. I'm sure the OG is closing soon. Should I go?
rabblerouser
12-03-2019, 09:09 PM
I've never been. I'm sure the OG is closing soon. Should I go?
Just to say you've done it, absolutely. It's a piece of KC history.
Great pork, I like their brisket, too.
I've never been. I'm sure the OG is closing soon. Should I go?
It's worth trying their burnt ends.
arrowheadnation
12-04-2019, 02:16 AM
It's worth trying their burnt ends.
We went to the original location during lunch hour one time and ordered burnt ends (it was crazy busy). I don't know if they ran out and had to rush an order to keep up with the demand of the lunch rush, but they were like chewing shoe leather. You had to take a big gulp of your drink to help swallow them. I'd like to go again sometime to see if they can redeem themselves.
New World Order
12-04-2019, 03:16 AM
The Legends location was terrible the times that I went
This.
Bryant's is my favorite BBQ place but for some reason the Legend's location was terrible.
cooper barrett
12-04-2019, 03:39 AM
one owner died other will be selling if grand daughter doesn't have his nuts in a vise.
I buy Original AB sauce at Rural King but recently it's been missing.
Closing their KCK Legends location:
https://www.kmbc.com/article/kc-bbq-favorite-arthur-bryant-s-restaurant-closes-legends-location/30103153?fbclid=IwAR0Ci3htkLD1IZ7-ATv4LkV_Y0bqbsNm3oNG4od7JzYGwZkbcahm1bqcNm8
It's worth trying their burnt ends.
Beef sandwich, fries and a red cream soda. Every time.
Since this thread started, I have been craving it... but need to work up to a cheat day. Damn artery issues.
Megatron96
12-04-2019, 04:15 PM
When I lived in KC 25 years ago, AB was definitely a favorite. If the quality really has dropped off, I'd be pretty sad about that. Was always a great place for beef sandwiches, burnt ends, ribs, etc.
Lprechaun
12-04-2019, 04:20 PM
Went to the original location last summer on my first trip back home in 15 years.
It was great, if its fallen off that's a shame.
Supmarkus
12-04-2019, 04:38 PM
Their original/sweet and spicy sauce is incredible. Ive tried to get it in the UK for the last 5 years to no avail.
Q39 and Jack Stack were better, but that sauce...
rabblerouser
12-04-2019, 05:17 PM
Their original/sweet and spicy sauce is incredible. Ive tried to get it in the UK for the last 5 years to no avail.
Q39 and Jack Stack were better, but that sauce...
What do put that sauce on over there? Fish N Chips?
BlackHelicopters
12-04-2019, 05:51 PM
Never been, despite living in KC for four years. Prefer Rosedale.
Kiimo
12-04-2019, 05:55 PM
Best sauce in KC in my opinion is what McGonigal's puts on everything:
https://wabashbbq.com/bbqsauce.html
rabblerouser
12-04-2019, 08:37 PM
Beef sandwich, fries and a red cream soda. Every time.
Mmmmm...I like BBQ.
ILChief
12-04-2019, 08:41 PM
I bought a bottle of their sauce when I was in KC at Rally house in the plaza. It was terrible. I’ve never eaten there. Been to Q39 once and Jack Stack several times. I liked both of them
cooper barrett
12-04-2019, 10:57 PM
Bryant's sause is not tomato based
grow a palette.
https://roadfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/rfl_25046-e1533588769783.jpg
http://www.kansastravel.org/kansascitybbq/15arthurbryantskc5.JPG
I bought a bottle of their sauce when I was in KC at Rally house in the plaza. It was terrible. I’ve never eaten there. Been to Q39 once and Jack Stack several times. I liked both of them
TinyEvel
12-04-2019, 11:59 PM
If that BBQ don’t cost at least $30 a plate I’m not interested.
Q39 or starve.
T-post Tom
12-05-2019, 01:10 AM
Bryant's quality starting going down in the mid 80's, not long after Arthur Bryant died. Sauce is still good. KC icon.
lcarus
12-05-2019, 01:16 AM
I've only had Bryant's once back when I still lived in KC. It was at The Station Casino back when it was still called that. Probably 99 or 2000. It was god awful. Gotta try the real thing next time I'm there.
cooper barrett
12-05-2019, 10:34 PM
I am currently 60YO and AB's BBQ was serving me and my JOCO buds beers back in high school.
Never had the balls to eat AB BBQ when they opened satellite stores
I've only had Bryant's once back when I still lived in KC. It was at The Station Casino back when it was still called that. Probably 99 or 2000. It was god awful. Gotta try the real thing next time I'm there.
AB 2.0 was served at MO Restaurant Assn. (Banquets and golf outings). It was always dead on
Supmarkus
12-06-2019, 01:28 AM
What do put that sauce on over there? Fish N Chips?
Pretty much.
Mama Hip Rockets
12-07-2019, 02:07 PM
Bryant's is so inconsistent. There have been times that I've eaten there and it's been some of the best BBQ I've ever had. Other times, it's been mediocre.
Their original sauce is gross, IMO. Sweet heat is one of my favorite sauces ever, though.
rabblerouser
01-18-2021, 11:51 AM
Bryant's sause is not tomato based
grow a palette.
https://roadfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/rfl_25046-e1533588769783.jpg
http://www.kansastravel.org/kansascitybbq/15arthurbryantskc5.JPG
This is the 1st post cooper has ever made that I 100% fully agree with.
rabblerouser
01-18-2021, 11:54 AM
Pretty much.
Like Mama's Hip Rockets says, try the Sweet Heat. It's amazing.
gblowfish
01-18-2021, 12:05 PM
Gates and Bryant's are KC authentic and KC original. Bryant's original sauce is designed primarily for beef. It's got vinegar and paprika in it. It's tart and sour, and if you grew up eating Kraft BBQ sauce or KC Masterpiece by Clorox with 80% corn syrup in it, you're not going to like Bryant's original. For poultry and pork, their sweet hot sauce is better. The fries and cole slaw are fabulous. Ribs are excellent, turkey and brisket all plentiful and flavorful. Gates prices have gone up again. They are expensive for what you get. The mixed plate is a good deal to try a little of everything. I think their standard sauce is the best on the planet. It's what I grew up with. Fries are good if you get them crispy. Slaw not as good as Bryant's. Gates service can be spotty. Somedays its really slow and disorganized. Bryant's seems to get the orders out quicker. If you are a tourist, you must try both someday and decide which one you like better.
ptlyon
01-18-2021, 12:12 PM
By clorox ROFL
gblowfish
01-18-2021, 12:17 PM
By clorox ROFL
From Wiki: "In 1986, after ten years of success in the Kansas City area, (Rich) Davis received an offer to sell the KC Masterpiece brand to the Kingsford charcoal division of The HV Food Products Company (formally known as Hidden Valley Ranch Food Products, Inc.), which operates as a subsidiary of The Clorox Company, with an eye to marketing the sauce nationwide.
Sassy Squatch
01-18-2021, 12:18 PM
I've never met anyone that thinks Bryant's original is just 'okay'. It's either delicious or disgusting.
Need to take pics of the original. At its best it was never good.
bdj23
01-18-2021, 12:25 PM
It took a while, but after buying a bottle of AB original it started to grow on me. It's not near as bad as people make it out to be.
BigRedChief
01-18-2021, 12:33 PM
Gates and Bryant's are KC authentic and KC original. Bryant's original sauce is designed primarily for beef. It's got vinegar and paprika in it. It's tart and sour, and if you grew up eating Kraft BBQ sauce or KC Masterpiece by Clorox with 80% corn syrup in it, you're not going to like Bryant's original. For poultry and pork, their sweet hot sauce is better. The fries and cole slaw are fabulous. Ribs are excellent, turkey and brisket all plentiful and flavorful. Gates prices have gone up again. They are expensive for what you get. The mixed plate is a good deal to try a little of everything. I think their standard sauce is the best on the planet. It's what I grew up with. Fries are good if you get them crispy. Slaw not as good as Bryant's. Gates service can be spotty. Somedays its really slow and disorganized. Bryant's seems to get the orders out quicker. If you are a tourist, you must try both someday and decide which one you like better.
Yeah I don’t get the hating on them. Sure they are not KC Joe’s but who else is up there with them? I like parts of others menus but across the board, they are the gold standard.
Sassy Squatch
01-18-2021, 12:36 PM
It took a while, but after buying a bottle of AB original it started to grow on me. It's not near as bad as people make it out to be.
Chef I work with says that the grit in the sauce really turns him off. I could see that being a pretty major reason.
cooper barrett
01-18-2021, 01:18 PM
You didn't know about Clorox?
When Gary Berbiglia opened a chicken joint (Berbiglia's Roost) in OP and it failed, Gary, a former owner of Bryant's, died soon after from complications of diabetes and heart disease. Bryant's had been quietly put up for sale but there was
little or no market for Bryant's name or it's it's assets.
They are going to live out the lease with Bryant's niece's estate (BRYANT, DORETHA) and they will be selling the fixtures. Other than the sauce, the rest will be gone.
Want to lease/ buy? building? Sauce?
https://jcgis.jacksongov.org/AscendPics/Pictures/29-610/29-610-04-03-00-0-00-000_AA.JPG
BRYANT DORETHA-TRUSTEE
Address: 1600 GENESSEE STE 225
City, State, Zip: KANSAS CITY, MO 64102-1090
If you buy Bryant's restaurants, AKA Brooklyn Barbeque you should have rights to the Bryant's name, the sauce recipe (as long as it's served on meat), and the lease of the Brooklyn property
Jerry Rauschelbach
816-231-1123
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Hoover
01-18-2021, 01:20 PM
At some point its all about ones expectations.
20-30 years ago when I was young and just started sampling KC BBQ I thought they were all great. Now at middle age, I'm a picky ass son of a bitch. Part of the problem is that a lot of us smoke ourselves, so it's harder and harder to impress me. Now my Mom and Dad would give some boiled meat and ketchup a good review.
Same thing happened to me and steaks. Now I don't order them when I go out unless I'm at a real deal legit steakhouse. For BBQ, I order things I'm not good at or don't attempt. I'm always ordering turkey, sausage, and Burnt Ends if they are known for them.
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