Juan Thornhill injury updates

[TLO]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid says he will know more about Juan Thornhill&#39;s injury tomorrow. The rookie safety was in the locker room with a brace on his left knee.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1211399920680423425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[petegz28]

Not good....hopefully better than terrible

[petegz28]

Time for Armani Watts to show what he has...just listen to HB and do your thing.

Watts was playing good in the little playing time he got last year before he got hurt.

[lewdog]

Done for season.

Won’t speculate past that.

[frozenchief]

If he’s out for 2 weeks we’d have him back for AFCCG. If he’s out for 4, we’d have him for SB.

[scho63]

When you have a non-contact knee injury and taken off on a cart you know it's bad, real bad.

They will probably have him in surgery within a week.

[RealSNR]

I obviously trust our coaches, but I wonder if Jordan Lucas wouldn't be a better play as a coverage safety than Watts.

Keep Sorensen doing what he does. Don't mess with that.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

It’s an ACL almost assuredly.

Sucks. Breaks my heart for the guy, he was coming on strong. I trust our other safeties to play good enough though with superior coaching to bring them along. Fuller is getting better there, Watts makes some plays.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I obviously trust our coaches, but I wonder if Jordan Lucas wouldn't be a better play as a coverage safety than Watts.

Keep Sorensen doing what he does. Don't mess with that.

They moved Fuller to Juan’s spot. Then put Watts at Fuller’s old spot in the dime package.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid says he will know more about Juan Thornhill&#39;s injury tomorrow. The rookie safety was in the locker room with a brace on his left knee.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1211399920680423425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[scho63]

It’s an ACL almost assuredly.

Sucks. Breaks my heart for the guy, he was coming on strong. I trust our other safeties to play good enough though with superior coaching to bring them along. Fuller is getting better there, Watts makes some plays.

To play so good as a rookie and then suffer this at the end of the year sucks big time. :deevee:

Feel bad for him as well.

[Chief Roundup]

If you don't have the news you should not start a thread about it. Just saying

[JakeF]

Lucas seems to get a lot of penalties when he plays. I think i prefer Amani Watts or play with an extra CB.

[rtmike]

Nice job by the staff having Fuller already playing some safety.

[staylor26]

He was the sacrifice for the #2 seed.

Hopefully it pays off.

[TLO]

If you don't have the news you should not start a thread about it. Just saying

Yeah let's have someone post it in some gigantic mega thread instead!

[Chief Roundup]

Yeah let's have someone post it in some gigantic mega thread instead!

You can't even comprehend what I said. Let me rephrase it for you. Only post the thread when you have the information.

[Delano]

You can't even comprehend what I said. Let me rephrase it for you. Only post the thread when you have the information.

The thread starter can be updated when something official breaks. The thread is for discussion and speculation. It’s what the forum is for.

[FloridaMan88]

The Arrowhead field was a joke today.

Lucky no one else got hurt.

[RunKC]

What sucks is you could really see the loss of this guy. The RB dump offs and some middle of the field completions were more successful once he was out.

[Easy 6]

He was the sacrifice for the #2 seed.

Hopefully it pays off.

If there’s any kind of sense to be made of it, that’s probably it

Let his sacrifice not be in vain...

[rabblerouser]

The thread starter can be updated when something official breaks. The thread is for discussion and speculation. It’s what the forum is for.

Correct.

[GloryDayz]

When this showed up, that's all we needed to see to know it wasn't good. Fuck, fuck, fuck!!!

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[Rasputin]

You can't even comprehend what I said. Let me rephrase it for you. Only post the thread when you have the information.



I appreciate TLO making this thread for discussion and speculations and OP can be updated the mods have the power to change the header or someone can make a new thread but this is an appropriate thread.


This is good thread
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[Delano]

The bye will be great for Fenton and Breeland to fully recover from their injury or illness and Watts to get those extra practice reps. One benefit of the scheme is that players like Fuller get regular practice doing multiple things which will be huge if he starts for Thornhill.

[TambaBerry]

The Arrowhead field was a joke today.

Lucky no one else got hurt.

you know we basically had a monsoon yesterday here right?

[KChiefs1]

When you have a non-contact knee injury and taken off on a cart you know it's bad, real bad.


The worst.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> fear that standout rookie S Juan Thornhill suffered a significant knee injury that will knock him out for the playoffs. He’ll have an MRI tomorrow to learn the details. He’s been a key part of that defense.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1211414061142941696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> fear that standout rookie S Juan Thornhill suffered a significant knee injury that will knock him out for the playoffs. He’ll have an MRI tomorrow to learn the details. He’s been a key part of that defense.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1211414061142941696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ACL probably

[SupDock]

ACL probably

Yep. Quite a bit of anterior laxity when it was tested.

[Pitt Gorilla]

you know we basically had a monsoon yesterday here right?The field was garbage. Like Mexico game garbage. It likely cost us Thornhill and could have cost us more.

[comochiefsfan]

This really sucks.

The kid was playing so well and was going to be a key part of defending Baltimore’s TEs.

Really tough loss for us.

[GloryDayz]

you know we basically had a monsoon yesterday here right?

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-135224633949258/12-x-14-red-vinyl-mesh-tarp-10-oz-3.gif

[T-post Tom]

Please. Pretty please... no "Eric Berry" suggestions. Just no.

[Chief Northman]

This is unfortunate. Thornhill had a great rookie season. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.

I take some solace however in the fact that Kendall Fuller has been repping a lot at safety over the past several weeks, and he is more than capable of doing a great job there.

[GloryDayz]

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[GloryDayz]

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[GloryDayz]

I pray they had the tarp on until this morning, but the field sure looked like it wasn't covered at all.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Aaron Borgmann (former Chiefs athletic trainer) says that if it’s just an ACL and no more complications, he should be ready for the start of 2020.

[siberian khatru]

At this point I just hope he plays most of next season

[RunKC]

This is unfortunate. Thornhill had a great rookie season. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.

I take some solace however in the fact that Kendall Fuller has been repping a lot at safety over the past several weeks, and he is more than capable of doing a great job there.

Fenton makes this easier too. Ward, Breeland and Fenton at corner with Fuller at FS allowing HB and Dirty Dan to play their roles up front

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Wonder what Eric Berry is up to

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Wonder what Eric Berry is up to

I don’t know and I do not care. He’s not going to be apart of this football team.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

What sucks is you could really see the loss of this guy. The RB dump offs and some middle of the field completions were more successful once he was out.

Fyi, in the first Chargers game Ekeler and Gordon had 11 catches for 129 yards.

Today they had 15 catches for 119 yards.

[threebag]

Watts will step right in, he likes to hit and can easily man the position.

[dlphg9]

Of course we cant have too many nice things. This year has been filled with key players being injured. Mahomes, Hill, Jones, Fisher, Clark, Thornhill, Fuller, most everyone else on the o line, Williams, McCoy, all of our other d enda. The crazy thing is that even with the injuries we still get a bye. That just goes to show how good a coach Andy is and how good this team's depth is.

I really liked what Watts showed last year in his limited time. Hopefully he plays very well and if we cant keep Fuller, then Watts can step into that role.

[Mr. Plow]

You can't even comprehend what I said. Let me rephrase it for you. Only post the thread when you have the information.

TLO likes to be the "thread starter".

[rabblerouser]

I don’t know and I do not care. He’s not going to be apart of this football team.

And he won't be a part of this football team, either. But he will be apart from this football team.

[KChiefs1]

Wonder what Eric Berry is up to


Trying to find his spirit.

[chiefqueen]

When you have a non-contact knee injury and taken off on a cart you know it's bad, real bad.

They will probably have him in surgery within a week.

When I saw him on that cart my first thought is he may be starting next season on the PUP list.

[GloryDayz]

Wonder what Eric Berry is up to

I don't. He'd only play an irrelevant number of irrelevant plays.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

How confident are you in this defense in the playoffs now that Thornhill is out for the year?

[ptlyon]

Is what it is. One man does not make a team.

[493rd]

How confident are you in this defense in the playoffs now that Thornhill is out for the year?

It’s a huge loss, but if the Chiefs offense can get hot we should be okay, I think. We’ll see how Fuller and Watts step up. But, really and truly, I feel terrible for Thornhill and his loss is going to hurt our defense.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Wonder what Eric Berry is up to

I wonder when you’ll win the Darwin Award and rid of us your stupidity.

[Cosmos]

A lot of whiff tackle attempts in the secondary today.

That and Thornhill being a willing tackler and big playmaker give me pause.

Two weeks to get coached up..

[dj56dt58]

What was his injury last week? was it also a knee injury?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Please. Pretty please... no "Eric Berry" suggestions. Just no.

Relax; you can only contract "the spirit" AFTER the contract, not before.

[comochiefsfan]

How confident are you in this defense in the playoffs now that Thornhill is out for the year?

Nervous. But at this point of the season, it’s hard not to be. When you’re so close to the ultimate goal, everything is so crucial.

Losing Thornhill hurts bad. He’s smart, aggressive, athletic, a playmaker. All qualities our other safeties not named Mathieu lack.

This team can rally and win it all, but losing Juan makes it a whole lot tougher.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Spags will make adjustments. Your whole season does not go in the tank because of one player. Come on fellas...

[comochiefsfan]

Spags will make adjustments. Your whole season does not go in the tank because of one player. Come on fellas...

It would if that player was Mahomes.

[RustShack]

I wouldn’t be shocked if Watts explodes onto the scene. He has the ability, and last year was starting to come on until he got hurt. Talent has never been a question, it was experience and then injury concerns holding him back.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I wouldn’t be shocked if Watts explodes onto the scene. He has the ability, and last year was starting to come on until he got hurt. Talent has never been a question, it was experience and then injury concerns holding him back.

I’m gonna explode in your mouth

[Jewish Rabbi]

I’m gonna explode in your mouth

Save some for me big boii

[T-post Tom]

I’m gonna explode in your mouth

Oh my. I feel a case of vapours coming on... :drool:

[ChiefsFanatic]

The field was garbage. Like Mexico game garbage. It likely cost us Thornhill and could have cost us more.My high school has a better playing field than Arrowhead. Grass is great in September, but in December/January it's usually resodded garbage or painted dirt.

It seems ignorant to build your team around speed, and then play on a field that negates your speed advantage to some degree.

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

My high school has a better playing field than Arrowhead. Grass is great in September, but in December/January it's usually resodded garbage or painted dirt.

It seems ignorant to build your team around speed, and then play on a field that negates your speed advantage to some degree.

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Yep.

Cursed shithole with shitty ground not worth a damn in weather since George retired.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Torn left ACL this sucks

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid presents the idea that Armani Watts &amp; Kendall Fuller will likely replace Juan Thornhill.<br><br>&quot;All players are different,&quot; Reid said. &quot;Kendall Fuller, one of our most flexible guys, plays everywhere.&quot;</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1211710080862838785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs S Juan Thornhill suffered a torn ACL, Andy Reid says. He&#39;s out for the postseason.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1211709793724973059?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sassy Squatch]

2 weeks, Spags. Figure it out.

[JakeF]

Torn left ACL this sucks
Damn. How much of next year is he going to miss?


:(

[comochiefsfan]

This one is on the grounds crew.

That field was a disaster yesterday and we are extremely fortunate no one else was seriously injured.

I don’t care that it rained. The condition of the field was completely inexcusable.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Damn. How much of next year is he going to miss?


:(

Aaron Borgmann (former trainer with KC) said if it’s just an ACL and nothing more, he can probably be back for the start of the season.

[Sure-Oz]

Damn. How much of next year is he going to miss?





:(Saw a tweet it generally takes 18 months to be full strength again. So I assume he won't look right next season

[RunKC]

Torn left ACL this sucks

Did They say the extent? If it is a standard tear and no structural damage then that’s the best we can hope for

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Saw a tweet it generally takes 18 months to be full strength again. So I assume he won't look right next season

That’s probably fair. He’s going to have to go the PED route to accelerate that process, odds are.

[ptlyon]

Saw a tweet it generally takes 18 months to be full strength again. So I assume he won't look right next season

KEEP FUCKING DOUBTING JUAN THORNHILL!

[The Franchise]

2 weeks, Spags. Figure it out.

Yep. I would assume that Fuller and Watts are going to be the replacements. Fuller has looked decent at safety since he’s been moved there.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Yep. I would assume that Fuller and Watts are going to be the replacements. Fuller has looked decent at safety since he’s been moved there.

This is what will happen and it’s on Fuller and Watts as much as it is Spags to pick up the slack. Make sure you’re on top of your film study and communication. I expect that from those two, they play with good energy and effort.

[Rain Man]

I never even saw the injury. No replays, no nothing. I didn't even see him carted off the field. I feel like I should file a missing persons report or something.

Was it completely non-contact?

[O.city]

If it's just the ACL...it sucks, but it could be worse. Surgery, rehab, he'll be fine. I dunno about the 18 month stuff, seems 12 is usually the number.

[493rd]

Can the stars ever just align once for the Chiefs to win a fucking SB? It certainly could still happen this year, but losing this kid when the defense was playing so well feels like yet another punch to the gut of this organization.

[suzzer99]

Can the stars ever just align once for the Chiefs to win a fucking SB? It certainly could still happen this year, but losing this kid when the defense was playing so well feels like yet another punch to the gut of this organization.

I don't think it hurts our SB chances *that* much. Unless someone else goes down, then we might be screwed. HB going down or even Ward or Breeland would have been worse imo.

I just worry it might slow him down a bit and maybe he's never quite the same player. Also does it seem like if one ACL goes, the other is going to go at some point? Or am I just paranoid because of JC?

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Going to be one hell of a story📌 Just watch !! <a href="https://t.co/pMzDzfqjrr">https://t.co/pMzDzfqjrr</a></p>&mdash; The_Juan_And_Only (@Juan_Thornhill) <a href="https://twitter.com/Juan_Thornhill/status/1211715612524896257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GloryDayz]

I never even saw the injury. No replays, no nothing. I didn't even see him carted off the field. I feel like I should file a missing persons report or something.

Was it completely non-contact?

I think that's because all the cameras were focused on the TD catch away from him, but yeah it would be interesting to see what happened. All they showed was them tending to him on the field.

[Kiimo]

I think the loss of Thornhill is a loss of a potential game-changing play by an extremely physically talented player.

However I don't think the loss of him decreases the chance for acceptable safety play. We can still win without him, I just don't think we can win because of him if that makes sense.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Just as we suspected. Get healthy and ready for next season!

[BigRedChief]

You knew it. We could see on TV when he was being looked at by the trainers that the knee was moving around that was very unnatural. Like it had broken loose.

[BigRedChief]

I think that's because all the cameras were focused on the TD catch away from him, but yeah it would be interesting to see what happened. All they showed was them tending to him on the field.it was a non contact injury.

[displacedinMN]

He is young and healthy. Not like the rest of us. He will be ready next season

[GloryDayz]

it was a non contact injury.

With knees, they often are. Ugh!

[Naptown Chief]

Fuck.

[FAX]

This is sickeningly sad.

He is Juan heck of a baller and was visibly improving each week.

Still, Armani Watts is a viable substitute (said no Juan ever).

Big loss. Gotta Juander what Wally and Spags will do to fill the void.

FAX

[Pitt Gorilla]

Thank goodness we have that natural surface for winter games.

[Kiimo]

I'm just glad that achilles tendons stopped snapping on this team

[Chief Roundup]

So he probably won't play again until the 2021 season.

[Aspengc8]

So he probably won't play again until the 2021 season.

impossible to tell at this point. everyone heals different.

[srvy]

I never even saw the injury. No replays, no nothing. I didn't even see him carted off the field. I feel like I should file a missing persons report or something.

Was it completely non-contact?

Yes he came down the line off scrimmage chasing and boom down goes Jaun. I know a lot are blaming the field and there was a lot of slipping at first but as the game went on footing seemed fine. May have been Jaun stepped in a spot especially wet from tarp removal or linemen churned it up. I never saw chunks of sod coming up on that field like in Mexico it seemed the field got better as the game progressed probably the wind dried it out by half. Just a sad freek thing really but I guess some need a scapegoat.

[Mecca]

So he probably won't play again until the 2021 season.

That's really not true, for a high caliber athlete with top doctors he will probably be cleared to play in 4-6 months. However it will take closer to 12-18 for him to be 100% comfortable on the knee.

[Kiimo]

Thornhill will be a great addition right around the time the Chiefs head to the playoffs to defend their Super Bowl title. It will be a great story.

[Chief Roundup]

That's really not true, for a high caliber athlete with top doctors he will probably be cleared to play in 4-6 months. However it will take closer to 12-18 for him to be 100% comfortable on the knee.

Adrian Peterson came back the quickest at 9 months. That time frame is reiterated in the following links when it comes to recovery time for an ACL in the NFL post surgery. It could take him longer like many other players as well.

https://allamericanorthopedic.com/adrian-peterson-leads-way-in-acl-recovery-in-nfl/

https://www.orthonebraska.com/acl-recovery-time-and-nfl-athletes/

[DomerNKC]

Hope for the best, expect the worst. ACL injuries change the player.

[Mecca]

Peterson's was ridiculous because he looked the same, most guys even once cleared take some time to get back to where they were.

[KChiefs1]

I feel bad for the kid.

He was getting better each week & by the time the Super Bowl rolled around he would have been an absolute star.

[milkshock]

Maybe look to draft a safety in the 3rd round

[TinyEvel]

So he probably won't play again until the 2021 season.

No way. Shoot him up with horse cocaine for the playoffs and sort it out after we win the Super Bowl.

[srvy]

I guess we probably need to resign Fuller?

[Skyy God]

Hope for the best, expect the worst. ACL injuries change the player.

Maybe in 1995. Not really that true today.

My best guess is he opens the season on IR and comes back week 9.

[Mecca]

I guess we probably need to resign Fuller?

Fuller has probably lost a lot of his value with how he's been used here...he's basically a role player so he may not get all that much money.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Thornhill will be ready by week 1. You heard it here first

[Pitt Gorilla]

So he probably won't play again until the 2021 season.ACLs are 4-6 months. He should ready to go next season.

[BlackHelicopters]

He’ll never be right again.

[Skyy God]

He’ll never be right again.

Drink antifreeze.

[BlackHelicopters]

Drink antifreeze.

Go back to D.C.

[RunKC]

Armani Watts had 10 INT’s and 17 passes defended in college. He has excellent ball skills, wasn’t afraid to lay a strong hitter on receivers and can cover.

He showed flashes of that last year against Denver and Jacksonville.

I’m excited to see what that kid can do

[Kiimo]

Watts' issues are all mental and self-inflicted. Kind of like Marcus Peters in that. It would be outstanding if he demonstrates that he's through shooting himself in the foot.

[BWillie]

ACL has alot to do with how hard you work in rehab. Makes all the difference in the world on how long it takes to get back

[limested]

He’ll never be right again.

Your and idiot.

[Skyy God]

Go back to D.C.

Go fuck your mother.

[jjchieffan]

Maybe in 1995. Not really that true today.

My best guess is he opens the season on IR and comes back week 9.

No need to IR him. If he's not able to participate in training camp, then they can put him on the PUP list instead. Then, he can come back after week 6. And, he wouldn't use up one of the IR designated to return spots.

[T-post Tom]

Armani Watts had 10 INT’s and 17 passes defended in college. He has excellent ball skills, wasn’t afraid to lay a strong hitter on receivers and can cover.

He showed flashes of that last year against Denver and Jacksonville.

I’m excited to see what that kid can do

I may be wrong, but he seems better suited to the safety position than Fuller.

[Skyy God]

No need to IR him. If he's not able to participate in training camp, then they can put him on the PUP list instead. Then, he can come back after week 6. And, he wouldn't use up one of the IR designated to return spots.

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking of.

Good catch.

[Mecca]

No need to IR him. If he's not able to participate in training camp, then they can put him on the PUP list instead. Then, he can come back after week 6. And, he wouldn't use up one of the IR designated to return spots.

They'll have a few PUP guys when next year starts, Thornhill, Speaks, Rankin.

[kcclone]

They'll have a few PUP guys when next year starts, Thornhill, Speaks, Rankin.


Hopefully all 3 of those guys can get back to full speed by the back half of the year. Rankin looks like a keeper. Thornhill is a stud obviously.

I'm praying for a K-pass like 3rd year for Speaks at DT/DE

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Armani Watts had 10 INT’s and 17 passes defended in college. He has excellent ball skills, wasn’t afraid to lay a strong hitter on receivers and can cover.

He showed flashes of that last year against Denver and Jacksonville.

I’m excited to see what that kid can do

I've been thinking the same thing. Sometimes a guy just needs the opportunity but I've always been high on this kid.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I watched the game over from the point Thornhill got hurt onward. Watts flashed a couple times nicely.

He’s the one who came up and sticked Ekeler on the 4th and 1 play that should have been challenged. He was short but the refs gave a generous spot. It was a nice, powerful hit with good burst.

He also closed on a Keenan Allen 5 yard route from the safety spot and held him to no YAC. Hit him with authority, but it unfortunately got flagged for leading with his helmet. It was a very subjective call that I doubt gets thrown very often.

And on top of that, DoD looked pretty damn explosive in his limited snaps late in the game. I think he could play in Niemann’s role very nicely, especially late in games or against a speedy backfield like Baltimore.

[KCRon]

That was rough to watch. I hope he gets back to a 100% quickly.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I watched the game over from the point Thornhill got hurt onward. Watts flashed a couple times nicely.

He’s the one who came up and sticked Ekeler on the 4th and 1 play that should have been challenged. He was short but the refs gave a generous spot. It was a nice, powerful hit with good burst.

He also closed on a Keenan Allen 5 yard route from the safety spot and held him to no YAC. Hit him with authority, but it unfortunately got flagged for leading with his helmet. It was a very subjective call that I doubt gets thrown very often.

And on top of that, DoD looked pretty damn explosive in his limited snaps late in the game. I think he could play in Niemann’s role very nicely, especially late in games or against a speedy backfield like Baltimore.Watts has all the physical tools; I can't imagine he has the mental game that Thornhill does, though. Hopefully, it'll be close .

Also, DOD would have to be an improvement. Niemann is brutal.

[Dunerdr]

Thornhill was really coming on, he was probably my favorite player this year on the defensive side.

[limested]

BlackHelicopters vayjay got all bloody because he is a complete dumbass.

[FAX]

I'm hearing odd rumors. Some of them are in my own mind ... just internal thoughts fabricated from unrealistic whole cloth. Others are promulgated by other personages.

One of these rumors is the idea that the Chiefs bring Eric Berry in to sub for Juan In A Million.

I wonder ...

FAX

[Boise_Chief]

A question Fax, did you happen to get peyote for Christmas?

[Graystoke]

I'm hearing odd rumors. Some of them are in my own mind ... just internal thoughts fabricated from unrealistic whole cloth. Others are promulgated by other personages.

One of these rumors is the idea that the Chiefs bring Eric Berry in to sub for Juan In A Million.

I wonder ...

FAX

Spirit says no

[Dunerdr]

facebook is all over berry coming back, no fucking way.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

facebook is all over berry coming back, no fucking way.

And that says you all you need to know....

If the FB community is all over it, it’s a bad plan..

[rabblerouser]

So, who takes the Army of Juan's roster spot on the 53?

[RunKC]

So, who takes the Army of Juan's roster spot on the 53?

I would imagine TE Nick Keizer since Pat got Blake Bell killed yesterday

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Hurts to lose Juan. He had a strong rookie campaign. Not sure what to so with the open spot. The team looks pretty solid across the board.

(My shot in the dark guess would be Dieter just because he always seems to pop up for no apparent reason.)

As far as EB, it's too late. This isnt week 12. Dude hasn't played a snap all year and didn't play well at the end of last year. Not to mention this is a new system. I'd just stick with Fuller, Sorenson, and Watts. Fenton can take over for Fuller's CB snaps. Who knows, Fuller may be a better S than CB for us. It'll be interesting to watch.

[Tribal Warfare]

I hope he maintains his speed and agility, because that's what makes him special a CB playing FS.

[DaFace]

I hope he maintains his speed and agility, because that's what makes him special a CB playing FS.

I wouldn't count on it for 2020, but I bet he's back to full speed by 2021.

[Tribal Warfare]

I wouldn't count on it for 2020, but I bet he's back to full speed by 2021.

If his knee isn't at full health then it's likely he'll play with a small brace

[DaFace]

If his knee isn't at full health then it's likely he'll play with a small brace

Yeah, I was responding to your "speed and agility" comment. He'll almost certainly play next year, but I bet he'll have lost a step in the short-term.

[Tribal Warfare]

Yeah, I was responding to your "speed and agility" comment. He'll almost certainly play next year, but I bet he'll have lost a step in the short-term.

It's like Mahomes he says he's healthy but ultimately Patrick will have patteler surgery to tighten up the tendon to be safe.

[RunKC]

I wouldn't count on it for 2020, but I bet he's back to full speed by 2021.

I could be wrong but Aaron Borgman said that a lot depends on the type of ACL tear. He mentioned that if it’s a standard tear then it should be fine but structural damage like an MCL tear etc would be much more difficult to come back from.

[Tribal Warfare]

I could be wrong but Aaron Borgman said that a lot depends on the type of ACL tear. He mentioned that if it’s a standard tear then it should be fine but structural damage like an MCL tear etc would be much more difficult to come back from.

The you're fucked rupture is the PCL

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Thank goodness we have that natural surface for winter games.

There's nothing wrong with grass and I'll bet 10 out of 10 players would prefer it to any other surface.

But it's a DAMN good thing we leave it open to the elements both before and during games!

#juanna dance with mother nature?

[scho63]

They'll have a few PUP guys when next year starts, Thornhill, Speaks, Rankin.

What about Ogbah and Okafor? :hmmm:

Will they be good to go?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

What about Ogbah and Okafor? :hmmm:

Will they be good to go?

Ogbah is a free agent. Okafor should be ready to roll tho

[scho63]

Ogbah is a free agent. Okafor should be ready to roll tho

Ogbah was playing well when he got hurt. Wonder if he still fits in? Suggs may retire if he wins a SB with us.

[UChieffyBugger]

It's like Mahomes he says he's healthy but ultimately Patrick will have patteler surgery to tighten up the tendon to be safe.

He was already told he doesn't need surgery due to his knee being double jointed. The damage was very minimal and should heal naturally.

[Tribal Warfare]

He was already told he doesn't need surgery due to his knee being double jointed. The damage was very minimal and should heal naturally.

That's what he said, but what's going to happen will be quite different.

As I said he's not using the violent torque to generate more velocity. The throws he use to make are INTs instead of completions.

Don't drink the koolaid like you did concerning starting PMII a week after the patella injury

[pugsnotdrugs19]

That's what he said, but what's going to happen will be quite different.

As I said he's not using the violent torque to generate more velocity. The throws he use to make are INTs instead of completions.

Don't drink the koolaid like you did concerning starting PMII a week after the patella injury

This should be bookmarked for 2020’s worst take of the year poll.

[Tribal Warfare]

This should be bookmarked for 2020’s worst take of the year poll.

Perfectly fine with that

[milkman]

Perfectly fine with that

That's good, cause you are fucking moron.

[rabblerouser]

I would imagine TE Nick Keizer since Pat got Blake Bell killed yesterday

Fuck Blake Bell. What happened to Jody Fortson?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

For those who I’m sure have concerns about Juan’s future... take solace in the fact that Tyrann Mathieu has previously torn both of his ACLs, and Eddie Jackson tore one of his in college before entering the draft (and he became the league’s highest paid safety today).

It may not be September 2020 when he’s back to where he was exactly, but he will be back there eventually.

[suzzer99]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is what Tyrann Mathieu told me regarding <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> S Juan Thornhill when I asked him on Thursday. The previous thought was Thornhill would be ready for training camp. It won&#39;t be the case with the second-year safety headed to PUP. <a href="https://t.co/dVokjw7HGw">pic.twitter.com/dVokjw7HGw</a></p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1289307747914194944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I guess he's been put on the PUP list?

[Coochie liquor]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is what Tyrann Mathieu told me regarding <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> S Juan Thornhill when I asked him on Thursday. The previous thought was Thornhill would be ready for training camp. It won&#39;t be the case with the second-year safety headed to PUP. <a href="https://t.co/dVokjw7HGw">pic.twitter.com/dVokjw7HGw</a></p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1289307747914194944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I guess he's been put on the PUP list?

Damn, we really need him in there if we have a season.

[DaneMcCloud]

I guess he's been put on the PUP list?

As I've been saying all year, it is no surprise that he's starting off the season on the PUP list.

He tore his ACL on December 29, which typically take a year to heal and most guys need two years to return to 100%.

Of course, it would be awesome if he could come back earlier but I think it'll be mid-season before he's allowed to return.

Hopefully, he'll be at least ready by the playoffs, if not before.

[suzzer99]

We need Clay to weigh in on this, especially wrt to the likelihood of there being a season.

[TRR]

As I've been saying all year, it is no surprise that he's starting off the season on the PUP list.

He tore his ACL on December 29, which typically take a year to heal and most guys need two years to return to 100%.

Of course, it would be awesome if he could come back earlier but I think it'll be mid-season before he's allowed to return.

Hopefully, he'll be at least ready by the playoffs, if not before.

Every player is different, and luckily Juan has youth on his side. We’ll see him before mid season.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Adrian Peterson started at RB approximately 9 months after tearing his ACL (and had an MVP season). That's about the shortest timeframe possible for full return.

[Chief Roundup]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have placed S Juan Thornhill (knee) and OL Martinas Rankin (kneed) on the physically unable to perform list. Rookie WR Aleva Hifo activated from the COVID-19 reserve list.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1289307725638164481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[suzzer99]

Apparently Ranking got kneed in the groin.

[cabletech94]

Apparently Ranking got kneed in the groin.

#HIFO!!!!!!!!!!

[mlyonsd]

I feel bad for Juan for not being on the field for the playoffs and SB. Godspeed young man. We want you back.

[Chief Roundup]

#HIFO!!!!!!!!!!

We released him one minute after we activated him to get back to the 80 limit.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Adrian Peterson started at RB approximately 9 months after tearing his ACL (and had an MVP season). That's about the shortest timeframe possible for full return.AD is just a freak of nature.

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[dlphg9]

AD is just a freak of nature.

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So is AP!

[ChiefsFanatic]

So is AP!AD is his nick name. It stands for All Day.

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[Kiimo]

It's ADPJ actually

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Switch it.

[TimeForWasp]

I just had brainstorm. If we have few players we want to keep, but not the room to keep them all, just pretend like a couple of them caught covid , put them on covid restriction and take control of the world. AH HA HA HA HA HA. AH HA HA HA HA. TAKE CONTROL OF THE WORLD . THE WORLD IS OUR OYSTER. AH HA HA HA H HA.

enter mini me

[Boiled Chicken]

Adrian Peterson started at RB approximately 9 months after tearing his ACL (and had an MVP season). That's about the shortest timeframe possible for full return.

I think Jerry Rice did something similar. Came back in the same season, caught a TD and messed it up again.

[O.city]

No reason to rush back. Take it slow especially this weird season.

With the coaching staff and current admin we have in place we’re at such an advantage already no point in getting crazy

[kcclone]

No reason to rush back. Take it slow especially this weird season.

With the coaching staff and current admin we have in place we’re at such an advantage already no point in getting crazy


This ^

If we can get him for the second half of the year, that’s really all that counts.

If he’s peaking in the Playoffs, I don’t care if he misses the first half of the season.

[duncan_idaho]

Yeah. Thornhill is an incredible athlete in great shape, which hastens his recovery time and improves his eventual outcome, but it’s going to take some time. Better to go a little slow than rush back and ruin the knee.

Thought this might be the case after they added Thompson the other day. Little depth.

[O.city]

This ^

If we can get him for the second half of the year, that’s really all that counts.

If he’s peaking in the Playoffs, I don’t care if he misses the first half of the season.

I see it basically the same as they did Houston a few years ago

They can win without him week to week. You want him when it gets nutt cutting time in December and January