Ian Rapoport: Eric Bieniemy to the Panthers?

[BigRedChief]

Interviews at their site:

Carolina on Thursday the 2nd (Hired Matt Ruhle)
Cleveland on Friday the 3rd
NY Giants on Saturday the 4th (Hired Joe Judge)



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[Shaid]

yeah, I'd really prefer they just make it a thing that these types of things can't happen until the offseason. I do understand the need for hurting teams to get their people in place but it sucks.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Would you want the organization you work for to prevent you from interviewing for a job opening that will quintuple your salary because it might be a distraction to your current employees?

[limested]

It is the bye week and Andy is the True OC so this is not a big deal.

[Spott]

I wish teams could wait until after the playoffs before they start meddling with other team’s staff. It seems like this bs happens every year.

[DRM08]

Good luck to him. Any chance the Bears fire Nagy and he slides into the Chiefs OC job?

[Hoover]

I have no problem with it.

He's probably going to interview Tuesday or Wednesday, which the players will have off anyway. Plus our offense is of Andy's creation, so again whatever.

[smithandrew051]

Is Kafka next in line to be OC?

[C3HIEF3S]

Good luck to him. Any chance the Bears fire Nagy and he slides into the Chiefs OC job?

Not this year, think Pace and Nagy get next year to right the ship. It wouldn't shock me if they overpay for Newton to save their asses, but wouldn't blame them seeing what they have to work with at QB right now.

[Hoover]

Is Kafka next in line to be OC?
Maybe, but why not go grab Pat Shurmer?

[notorious]

Not impressed with him to be honest. Everyone knows this is Reid and Mahome’s offense.

Still surprises me that teams don’t understand this. They mke the same mistake over and over.

[FlaChief58]

I wish teams could wait until after the playoffs before they start meddling with other team’s staff. It seems like this bs happens every year.

Because it does

[DRM08]

Maybe, but why not go grab Pat Shurmer?

That seems like a pretty solid move.

[Peter Gibbons]

Would you want the organization you work for to prevent you from interviewing for a job opening that will quintuple your salary because it might be a distraction to your current employees?

My company doesn’t work in cooperation with the other 31 companies in my field where they share an antitrust exemption status under the law. So I am not sure it’s a fair comparison.

However, to answer you original question “Hell No! Daddy needs to get paid”.

[kcclone]

yeah, I'd really prefer they just make it a thing that these types of things can't happen until the offseason. I do understand the need for hurting teams to get their people in place but it sucks.


But it's also likely a big part of the reason that we have the coaching staff that we have with Bieniemy, Toub, Daly and Matt House.

At the end of the day it's a net positive to have coaches that other teams want.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Is Kafka next in line to be OC?

Given how Andy has handled losing his OC, this is probably exactly what happens. I believe Shurmur is a Andy Reid guy? I think I saw that during a game this season, could be wrong tho. If he is from Andy's tree then that could could make sense

[Titty Meat]

The NFL should not allow this distraction but it is what it is. It's not changing any time soon. I thought he'd be gone last year. Teams want what we have. Thats a good thing but....... they should wait until after the Super Bowl to start hiring coaches to be fair to the coaches in the playoffs and avoid distractions.



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No they shouldn't. Teams wouldn't have a new coach damn well near March under your scenario.

[Coochie liquor]

I like Bienemy, and hate losing any continuity heading into the playoffs. They should hold off these moves until after the SB.

[crispystl]

Not impressed with him to be honest. Everyone knows this is Reid and Mahome’s offense.



Still surprises me that teams don’t understand this. They mke the same mistake over and over.



Surely they must know, but it is a little confounding. Maybe they just think some of Reid will rub off on these guys??? I dunno but you’re right.


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[Coochie liquor]

Not impressed with him to be honest. Everyone knows this is Reid and Mahome’s offense.

Still surprises me that teams don’t understand this. They mke the same mistake over and over.

Pederson seemed to do pretty well in Philly. Jury is still out on Nagy but it’s not his fault he is stuck with Turdbiski. Not sure what to expect from Bienemy as a HC, but Andy’s tree has done fairly well as of late.

[chiefzilla1501]

Not at all concerned. Andy does the playcalling anyway and we have a bye week. If anything, I'll be glad for bieniemy to wrap it up quickly instead of interviewing in 10 places. Kafka is probably ready to be promoted anyway.

[Chris Meck]

Not impressed with him to be honest. Everyone knows this is Reid and Mahome’s offense.

Still surprises me that teams don’t understand this. They mke the same mistake over and over.

yeah, because Reid's assistants never have success as head coaches.

[DRM08]

Given how Andy has handled losing his OC, this is probably exactly what happens. I believe Shurmur is a Andy Reid guy? I think I saw that during a game this season, could be wrong tho. If he is from Andy's tree then that could could make sense

Shurmur spent about 10 seasons with Andy in Philadelphia.

[Delano]

Surely they must know, but it is a little confounding. Maybe they just think some of Reid will rub off on these guys??? I dunno but you’re right.


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When prospective hires have mentors with elite skills it’s definitely a plus. Where do you think people learn their work habits? Some of Andy’s leadership is bound to rub off.

The rest gets figured out in the interview. Do you guys seriously think an NFL team wouldn’t do their absolute best due diligence? I mean, sure, some front offices aren’t that great but they’re not going to hire a guy that drools all over himself in the interviews.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Shurmur spent about 10 seasons with Andy in Philadelphia.

That's what I thought, but I couldn't remember if he was an Andy guy for sure or not -- thanks for clarifying

[TRR]

Surely they must know, but it is a little confounding. Maybe they just think some of Reid will rub off on these guys??? I dunno but you’re right.


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A lot of fans think Reid’s press conferences are frustrating. Wait until you get Bieniemy constant “at the end of the day” quotes over and over and over. I think Bieniemy has brought some structure and flow as OC. I think he’s helped the communication (better than Nagy even) into Patrick, and his structure has ultimately helped the clock issues of the past. But, I think he wears on players particularly as a Head Coach. I think fans will also wear out quickly. That is...unless he wins.

[notorious]

Pederson seemed to do pretty well in Philly. Jury is still out on Nagy but it’s not his fault he is stuck with Turdbiski. Not sure what to expect from Bienemy as a HC, but Andy’s tree has done fairly well as of late.

Reid’s guys do okay, but I’m talking about all the OCs that are propped up by amazing QBs.

Adam Gase is exhibit A

[Rain Man]

When prospective hires have mentors with elite skills it’s definitely a plus. Where do you think people learn their work habits? Some of Andy’s leadership is bound to rub off.

The rest gets figured out in the interview. Do you guys seriously think an NFL team wouldn’t do their absolute best due diligence? I mean, sure, some front offices aren’t that great but they’re not going to hire a guy that drools all over himself in the interviews.

(Looks at Broncos' last two coaches. Shrugs.)

[Peter Gibbons]

(Looks at Broncos' last two coaches. Shrugs.)

In all fairness though, Elway was likely blitzed and drooling as well. He may of just thought they were trying to fit in????

['Hamas' Jenkins]

My company doesn’t work in cooperation with the other 31 companies in my field where they share an antitrust exemption status under the law. So I am not sure it’s a fair comparison.

However, to answer you original question “Hell No! Daddy needs to get paid”.

Then consider yourself a person working under a project manager, and you aren't allowed to interview for an open project manager position in the same company despite that your current project manager thinks you would be a great fit for that new gig and that it would include a massive salary increase.

That's what people bitching about this as a distraction and saying that it shouldn't happen are arguing for, in essence.

[stevieray]

I still think this is BS, talking to coaches who are trying to prepare for the playoffs.

If he's worth it, you'll wait.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The rest gets figured out in the interview. Do you guys seriously think an NFL team wouldn’t do their absolute best due diligence? I mean, sure, some front offices aren’t that great but they’re not going to hire a guy that drools all over himself in the interviews.

Look at some of the guys that have received second and third chances.

[gblowfish]

When a team is good, you can expect lesser teams to raid your talent. Comes with the territory. Reid is really the OC here anyway.

[RealSNR]

Not impressed with him to be honest. Everyone knows this is Reid and Mahome’s offense.

Still surprises me that teams don’t understand this. They mke the same mistake over and over.

What?

While in KC, Reid has had two assistants lured away to become head coaches. Pederson and Nagy. Pederson is racking up a playoff appearance record that's starting to resemble Reid's and already has a Super Bowl ring. Nagy made Trubisky look at least game managery for a season and won a division in his first year as a head coach.

It's apparent that hiring Andy Reid assistants works pretty damn well, actually.

[Easy 6]

When a team is good, you can expect lesser teams to raid your talent. Comes with the territory. Reid is really the OC here anyway.

This is the bottom line

Plug in Kafka or Shurmur and keep on keeping on

[notorious]

yeah, because Reid's assistants never have success as head coaches.

What?

While in KC, Reid has had two assistants lured away to become head coaches. Pederson and Nagy. Pederson is racking up a playoff appearance record that's starting to resemble Reid's and already has a Super Bowl ring. Nagy made Trubisky look at least game managery for a season and won a division in his first year as a head coach.

It's apparent that hiring Andy Reid assistants works pretty damn well, actually.

Reid’s guys do okay, but I’m talking about all the OCs that are propped up by amazing QBs.

Adam Gase is exhibit A

.

[Warrick]

It's not fair to the teams who have made the playoffs, especially since it's usually teams that didn't make playoffs, yet somehow these teams feel they have some right to disrupt the chemistry of your team in the process of focusing on winning the SB. The NFL needs to tell these teams to wait their turn basically - that teams can only be contacted when they are no longer in the playoffs. Respect the process, players, and coaches.

[Kman34]

Not impressed with him to be honest. Everyone knows this is Reid and Mahome’s offense.

Still surprises me that teams don’t understand this. They mke the same mistake over and over.

Doug Pederson...

[RunKC]

Add the Giants to the list per NFLN

[notorious]

Doug Pederson...

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[Delano]

Look at some of the guys that have received second and third chances.

They appeal to ownership and upper management somehow. Whether they retool their strategies or appear like a better fit with different organizations I don’t really know. Installing a hooplehead at the helm of a billion dollar product doesn’t seem like the thing a team owner would do.

[Peter Gibbons]

Then consider yourself a person working under a project manager, and you aren't allowed to interview for an open project manager position in the same company despite that your current project manager thinks you would be a great fit for that new gig and that it would include a massive salary increase.

That's what people bitching about this as a distraction and saying that it shouldn't happen are arguing for, in essence.

Actually, in my company you don’t interview for other roles. Roles are given not sought. I wish it was different but it’s a big Fortune 10 company and I doubt what I want will change anything.

But since this is all a friendly “entertainment” I do get both sides. It would be entirely possible to have a coaching hiatus for all until after the SB to level the field for all. It does seem a bit unseemly to ask someone to interview when their allegiance for that season has not yet ended.

I the absence of a rule that would help everyone, each person needs to take care of themselves. However, double edge sword if doing so distracts you and hurts your job performance. Then, you may not be wanted after all.

In this case, I believe Andy runs our O and it won’t be a distraction. Othe teams may not fare as well.

[chiefzilla1501]

Doug Pederson...

Yeah, I'm not sure what to think of bieniemy. But I think he has a hell of a lot more control of this offense than pederson ever had. I thought pederson was a doofus and a yes man. But he's become a really really good coach. It's not just learning playcalling. It's learning the Andy Reid way of running a team which is a proven winner. His tree has been awesome, which is great for us because he keeps churning out great assistants even after we lose them.

[comochiefsfan]

Gonna miss EB when he inevitably moves on.

He’s been a staple offensive coach here for awhile and has been an integral part of this franchise. Stand up guy who I hope ends up having a successful head coaching career.

Mike Kafka step right up!

[jjchieffan]

Yeah, the Reid tree is probably the most successful coaching tree currently in the NFL. Ron Rivera took the Panthers to the Superbowl, Sean McDermott has the Bills in the playoffs for the first time this century, Pedersen has a ring in Philly, Nagy had the 1 seed last year with the Bears. Spags failed in St. Louis Shurmur failed in NY, but I'm not sure that was all on him. Overall, that's a pretty high rate of success. Better than the Patriots tree by far. With that success rate, it's not a matter of if, but rather when the next assistant will be plucked away.

[Deberg_1990]

Chiefs next OC? Kafka?

Kafka leaves for HC gig in 2022?

[Deberg_1990]

Yeah, the Reid tree is probably the most successful coaching tree currently in the NFL. Ron Rivera took the Panthers to the Superbowl, Sean McDermott has the Bills in the playoffs for the first time this century, Pedersen has a ring in Philly, Nagy had the 1 seed last year with the Bears. Spags failed in St. Louis Shurmur failed in NY, but I'm not sure that was all on him. Overall, that's a pretty high rate of success. Better than the Patriots tree by far. With that success rate, it's not a matter of if, but rather when the next assistant will be plucked away.

Harbaugh just had his best regular season ever in Baltimore as well.

The Andy Reid tree is magnificent

[dirk digler]

For our/my own selfishness I hope with the plethora of available candidates he doesn’t get hired this offseason

[jjchieffan]

Harbaugh just had his best regular season ever in Baltimore as well.

The Andy Reid tree is magnificent

Lol. Oh yeah. How did I forget Harbaugh?

[jjchieffan]

Bienemy will continue to get lots of interviews even if it's just a token Rooney rule interview. I have a hard time believing that he doesn't get hired somewhere this year though.

[jettio]

I think EB will be a good HC. He was an impressive RB coach. He even got Knile Davis on the field with very few fumbles.

Seems like a great leader. He may be better served delegating the playcalling, but I think his time as OC has helped him learn all of the details beyond what the RBs need to know.

I doubt any teams with a first round bye deny interview requests these days.

[chiefzilla1501]

I think EB will be a good HC. He was an impressive RB coach. He even got Knile Davis on the field with very few fumbles.

Seems like a great leader. He may be better served delegating the playcalling, but I think his time as OC has helped him learn all of the details beyond what the RBs need to know.

I doubt any teams with a first round bye deny interview requests these days.

He also has HC experience. He wasn't that great and he was super young but it matters that he's done it. I don't know if he's a super bowl HC but I can see him being a solid choice somewhere.

[MahiMike]

Well since we've never really figured out wth this guys does, I'm ok with it. Can we get a draft pick for him?

[chiefforlife]

I find it very interesting that Cleveland has NOT asked to interview Bienemy.

Dorsey knows him well but so far has NOT asked to interview him.

Seems like just the kind of thing Dorsey would do to us and probably would fix the offense in Cleveland.

Strange if you ask me...

[Mama Hip Rockets]

My company doesn’t work in cooperation with the other 31 companies in my field where they share an antitrust exemption status under the law. So I am not sure it’s a fair comparison.

However, to answer you original question “Hell No! Daddy needs to get paid”.

Do you still work for Initech?

[Jerm]

I find it very interesting that Cleveland has NOT asked to interview Bienemy.

Dorsey knows him well but so far has NOT asked to interview him.

Seems like just the kind of thing Dorsey would do to us and probably would fix the offense in Cleveland.

Strange if you ask me...

John Dorsey hired Freddie Kitchens, I'm not exactly trusting his judgment at the moment...

[scho63]

When a team is good, you can expect lesser teams to raid your talent. Comes with the territory. Reid is really the OC here anyway.

Yup, this has been happening for the last 30+/- years. :thumb:

Don't have to like it but it is what it is.....:harumph:

[scho63]

I find it very interesting that Cleveland has NOT asked to interview Bienemy.

Dorsey knows him well but so far has NOT asked to interview him.

Seems like just the kind of thing Dorsey would do to us and probably would fix the offense in Cleveland.

Strange if you ask me...

Bienemy knows better! ROFL

[chiefforlife]

Bienemy knows better! ROFL

Yes, that I could believe.

[GloryDayz]

Then consider yourself a person working under a project manager, and you aren't allowed to interview for an open project manager position in the same company despite that your current project manager thinks you would be a great fit for that new gig and that it would include a massive salary increase.

That's what people bitching about this as a distraction and saying that it shouldn't happen are arguing for, in essence.

I've seen companies (SAIC) do exactly that. Hell, SAIC's written rule was nobody could get more than a two-step increase. So there's that.

But let's not quibble over examples from corporations that don't co-equal groups that compete specifically for the CEO's cup every year. If they did, I'm sure taking employees from other teams wouldn't happen until the CIO's cup was over, or at least until the wanted employee's project team had been eliminated.

:popcorn:

[St. Patty's Fire]

Am I the only one who doesn’t give a shit if Bieniemy stays or goes? Andy shits out quality OCs. Whoever we hire next will be great for three years until he goes on to be a coach, and the cycle will continue.

[GloryDayz]

That being said, if it's SOOOOO critical to get these new HC's in place now, and NOT a month from now, what makes people think that, if they're hired, they'll put 100% of their focus on helping their current team win the CEO's cup?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Not impressed with him to be honest. Everyone knows this is Reid and Mahome’s offense.

Still surprises me that teams don’t understand this. They mke the same mistake over and over.How has he not impressed you? Reid and Mahomes are significant, but Bieniemy is a huge part of that as well.

[Pitt Gorilla]

But it's also likely a big part of the reason that we have the coaching staff that we have with Bieniemy, Toub, Daly and Matt House.

At the end of the day it's a net positive to have coaches that other teams want.This. Bieniemy will finish up here prior to moving on. You get better talent when the talent has a legitimate opportunity to move upward.

[Buehler445]

Not impressed with him to be honest. Everyone knows this is Reid and Mahome’s offense.

Still surprises me that teams don’t understand this. They mke the same mistake over and over.

It’s been pointed

Pederson seemed to do pretty well in Philly. Jury is still out on Nagy but it’s not his fault he is stuck with Turdbiski. Not sure what to expect from Bienemy as a HC, but Andy’s tree has done fairly well as of late.

It kind of is. He knew they had Trubiski when he took the job. He should have known his job performance would largely be tied to Trubiski.

When prospective hires have mentors with elite skills it’s definitely a plus. Where do you think people learn their work habits? Some of Andy’s leadership is bound to rub off.

The rest gets figured out in the interview. Do you guys seriously think an NFL team wouldn’t do their absolute best due diligence? I mean, sure, some front offices aren’t that great but they’re not going to hire a guy that drools all over himself in the interviews.

There are some fucking stupid front offices.

[Rasputin]

Wishful thinking we win the Super Bowl and Andy retires in style and rides out in the sunset with some cream-puffs and Eric Bieniemy inherits the team as HC.

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[LiveSteam]

Im available as Eric Bs replacement.

[HonestChieffan]

He will be hard to replace

[Chief Roundup]

I don't think he gets any HC jobs. He hasn't called plays at all this season. Generally it is the offseason after our OC has been calling plays that they get a HC gig.

[Chief Roundup]

He will be hard to replace

I like EB but how do you figure? Pederson was not hard to replace and neither was Nagy. One of the biggest reasons is that Andy Reid is really the OC.

[Kiimo]

If teams truly understood who was the talent on this coaching staff they'd be reaching out to Kafka over EB but should be reaching out to Daly over everyone.

[KCUnited]

Despite none of us here knowing what anyone on this staff really does, here's who I'm worried about losing...

[KChiefs1]

Maybe, but why not go grab Pat Shurmer?


I think it would be Kafka or Shurmur & it would depend on which one Andy feels could work better with Patrick. I wonder with Shurmur’s son on the team if that makes a difference or not.

[Kiimo]

I mean considering Kafka is the guy who is directly responsible for fixing a lot of Mahomes' footwork and technique problems you would think he would be the guy.

Neither one is going to call plays so why would Shurmur even come?

[Eleazar]

I wish teams could wait until after the playoffs before they start meddling with other team’s staff. It seems like this bs happens every year.

It's an extra month of assembling a staff and getting ready for the draft. Time is money.

[Megatron96]

haven't read the whole thread, but EB might be a good fit in Carolina. They are a "run first" offense, with a good defense, and the organization has shown that it's a stable landing spot. If they can find a decent QB, preferably with some solid experience, EB might get that team headed in the right direction by year 2.

[PunkinDrublic]

More like cheating with Bieniemy! Am I right fellas?

[BigRedChief]

I think it would be Kafka or Shurmur & it would depend on which one Andy feels could work better with Patrick. I wonder with Shurmur’s son on the team if that makes a difference or not.

I mean considering Kafka is the guy who is directly responsible for fixing a lot of Mahomes' footwork and technique problems you would think he would be the guy.

Neither one is going to call plays so why would Shurmur even come?we saw with The defensive coordinator job, it’s who Andy is comfortable with. Since Shurmur and Kafka have both worked with Reid, it’s a good assumption that both are considered as worthy OC’s.

We will never get anything publicly as to why someone wasn’t chosen. Only that the guy selected was the perfect man for the job.

[MahiMike]

How has he not impressed you? Reid and Mahomes are significant, but Bieniemy is a huge part of that as well.

How?

[Chiefshrink]

Good luck to him. Any chance the Bears fire Nagy and he slides into the Chiefs OC job?

Pace will be fired b4 Nagy if any firing happens because Trubisky was already on the team. You can't fix "deer in the headlights in the pocket" and Nagy IMHO has realized this by now. I would think next time Nagy will have some serious input on their next QB. If Pace's ego is in check he just might humble himself to let Nagy go after who he wants since he screwed up big time(trading up) for Trubisky when he really didn't have to trade up.

Cam Newton ain't the answer either. Cam's confidence is shot with "no fire in the belly". DCs figured him out because Cam's development of being a student of the game stopped a long time ago/ if ever really developed depending only on his athleticism which only goes so far and this will happen with Lamar as well in due time. Cam basically quit, hiding behind injuries/surgery especially this last one of which he really didn't need. He also had a hard time sharing the glory with McCaffrey as his playmaking increased while Cam's went down. Injuries are the excuses now but I just don't buy it. No way Nagy waves the green flag for "postgame fashion boy". Who would want that Narcissitic Diva on your team ??

[Chiefshrink]

How?

Exactly.

[Chiefshrink]

I find it very interesting that Cleveland has NOT asked to interview Bienemy.

Dorsey knows him well but so far has NOT asked to interview him.

Seems like just the kind of thing Dorsey would do to us and probably would fix the offense in Cleveland.

Strange if you ask me...

No way Bienemy wants any part of that Dorsey chaos. Bienemy will respectfully decline that interview.;)

[Chiefshrink]

but Bieniemy is a huge part of that as well.

Who is sitting with Pat most of the time on the sideline talking shop after series are over ? It ain't EB. Just saying.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Who is sitting with Pat most of the time on the sideline talking shop after series are over ? It ain't EB. Just saying.

“I’d say hire him, right now,” Reid said of Bieniemy, according to ESPN. “That’s what I’d tell you. I don’t want to lose him, but I mean if you’re asking me is he ready to be a head coach, yeah, he’s ready. He was ready last year. ... He’s in the quarterback room every day, and I think if you’d talk to Patrick [Mahomes] he’d tell you how much influence he’s had on him.”

[King_Chief_Fan]

Who really is the OC for the Chiefs? Reid

Not sure Bieniemy can claim much of what goes on there

[Megatron96]

The fact of the matter is we don't really know how much influence EB has had on the offense/play-calling or on Pat himself. Maybe quite a bit, maybe not. But judging just from Andy's coaching tree and their relative success, I'd say if Andy says EB is ready and good enough, he probably is.

[RustShack]

Reid is the true OC, but I’m assuming Shurmur would get the title.

[BigRedChief]

No way Bienemy wants any part of that Dorsey chaos. Bienemy will respectfully decline that interview.;)He may already have turned it down. Not exactly the type of thing that ever becomes public knowleadge.

[RealSNR]

Reid was also the "real" OC for the majority of Doug Pederson's stint with us. Same goes for Matt Nagy. Both he and Pederson only ever got to call plays for like half of a season.

Believe it or not, the OC has a shit ton more duties to perform than just playcalling. If you do all of those other things well, that is a much better gauge of whether or not you have the stuff to be an NFL head coach than your playcalling experience.

Guess what? Before he became the head coach of the Eagles, Andy Reid had never called plays. He had also never been given the title of offensive coordinator. You know who had a ton of experience with calling plays before becoming a head coach? Pat Shurmur. Scott Linehan. Marty Mornhinweg.

I'm not saying to never hire experienced playcallers as head coaches. I'm saying that teams should hire head coaches based on other qualities and strengths they possess as coaches BEFORE they look at whether or not they have playcalling experience. Because it'd be a shame to miss out on hiring a young Andy Reid all because you liked the experience on the resume of Norv Turner and how he called all those plays for a Super Bowl-winning team.

Eric Bieniemy is getting looks as a head coach because teams think he's a great leader, teacher, and a fantastic X's and O's guy who works hard and would be good at creating that same culture of team work and work ethic in the locker room. That's what matters. And that's how he's either going to succeed or fail as a head coach in this league.

[Megatron96]

Reid was also the "real" OC for the majority of Doug Pederson's stint with us. Same goes for Matt Nagy. Both he and Pederson only ever got to call plays for like half of a season.

Believe it or not, the OC has a shit ton more duties to perform than just playcalling. If you do all of those other things well, that is a much better gauge of whether or not you have the stuff to be an NFL head coach than your playcalling experience.

Guess what? Before he became the head coach of the Eagles, Andy Reid had never called plays. He had also never been given the title of offensive coordinator. You know who had a ton of experience with calling plays before becoming a head coach? Pat Shurmur. Scott Linehan. Marty Mornhinweg.

I'm not saying to never hire experienced playcallers as head coaches. I'm saying that teams should hire head coaches based on other qualities and strengths they possess as coaches BEFORE they look at whether or not they have playcalling experience. Because it'd be a shame to miss out on hiring a young Andy Reid all because you liked the experience on the resume of Norv Turner and how he called all those plays for a Super Bowl-winning team.

Eric Bieniemy is getting looks as a head coach because teams think he's a great leader, teacher, and a fantastic X's and O's guy who works hard and would be good at creating that same culture of team work and work ethic in the locker room. That's what matters. And that's how he's either going to succeed or fail as a head coach in this league.

Well said.

[Chiefshrink]

“I’d say hire him, right now,” Reid said of Bieniemy, according to ESPN. “That’s what I’d tell you. I don’t want to lose him, but I mean if you’re asking me is he ready to be a head coach, yeah, he’s ready. He was ready last year. ... He’s in the quarterback room every day, and I think if you’d talk to Patrick [Mahomes] he’d tell you how much influence he’s had on him.”

Not during the game. It is Reid sitting with him. Just saying.;)

[Chris Meck]

Reid was also the "real" OC for the majority of Doug Pederson's stint with us. Same goes for Matt Nagy. Both he and Pederson only ever got to call plays for like half of a season.

Believe it or not, the OC has a shit ton more duties to perform than just playcalling. If you do all of those other things well, that is a much better gauge of whether or not you have the stuff to be an NFL head coach than your playcalling experience.

Guess what? Before he became the head coach of the Eagles, Andy Reid had never called plays. He had also never been given the title of offensive coordinator. You know who had a ton of experience with calling plays before becoming a head coach? Pat Shurmur. Scott Linehan. Marty Mornhinweg.

I'm not saying to never hire experienced playcallers as head coaches. I'm saying that teams should hire head coaches based on other qualities and strengths they possess as coaches BEFORE they look at whether or not they have playcalling experience. Because it'd be a shame to miss out on hiring a young Andy Reid all because you liked the experience on the resume of Norv Turner and how he called all those plays for a Super Bowl-winning team.

Eric Bieniemy is getting looks as a head coach because teams think he's a great leader, teacher, and a fantastic X's and O's guy who works hard and would be good at creating that same culture of team work and work ethic in the locker room. That's what matters. And that's how he's either going to succeed or fail as a head coach in this league.

GREAT post.

A winning culture, attention to detail, and structure are what make an organization a good one. That starts at the GM; but most important is the head coach. It's his lockerroom.

[ModSocks]

If Dallas were smart they'd take Beinemy.

[InChiefsHeaven]

I just hope he goes to the NFC at least. He's a great guy and I hope he does well whenever he leaves here.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Not during the game. It is Reid sitting with him. Just saying.;)

Who. ****ing. Cares. Bieniemy is intricately involved in the offensive game plan. Reid thinks he’s ready to be a head coach.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Reid was also the "real" OC for the majority of Doug Pederson's stint with us. Same goes for Matt Nagy. Both he and Pederson only ever got to call plays for like half of a season.

Believe it or not, the OC has a shit ton more duties to perform than just playcalling. If you do all of those other things well, that is a much better gauge of whether or not you have the stuff to be an NFL head coach than your playcalling experience.

Guess what? Before he became the head coach of the Eagles, Andy Reid had never called plays. He had also never been given the title of offensive coordinator. You know who had a ton of experience with calling plays before becoming a head coach? Pat Shurmur. Scott Linehan. Marty Mornhinweg.

I'm not saying to never hire experienced playcallers as head coaches. I'm saying that teams should hire head coaches based on other qualities and strengths they possess as coaches BEFORE they look at whether or not they have playcalling experience. Because it'd be a shame to miss out on hiring a young Andy Reid all because you liked the experience on the resume of Norv Turner and how he called all those plays for a Super Bowl-winning team.

Eric Bieniemy is getting looks as a head coach because teams think he's a great leader, teacher, and a fantastic X's and O's guy who works hard and would be good at creating that same culture of team work and work ethic in the locker room. That's what matters. And that's how he's either going to succeed or fail as a head coach in this league.
/Thread.

[Tges58]

I think it would be Kafka or Shurmur & it would depend on which one Andy feels could work better with Patrick. I wonder with Shurmur’s son on the team if that makes a difference or not.

Reids son is a coach for KC, so it seems like he doesn't have a problem with nepotism.

There's been quite a few father and son coaches, Ibut I can't think of a father coaching his son in the NFL.

[carcosa]

Eric seems nice to me

[Hoover]

I think Dallas needs a big personality to counter act Jones.

McCarthy would work. He's got a winning record and super bowl ring

[InChiefsHeaven]

I think Dallas needs a big personality to counter act Jones.

McCarthy would work. He's got a winning record and super bowl ring

I would hate to see EB in Dallas, that's for sure. Jerruh Jones would turn on him the minute things start going south.

[NJChiefsFan]

I would hate to see EB in Dallas, that's for sure. Jerruh Jones would turn on him the minute things start going south.

I haven't really cared all too much about Nagy and Pederson. I feel like I'll be rooting for Bieniemy though. Especially if he goes to the NFC.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I would hate to see EB in Dallas, that's for sure. Jerruh Jones would turn on him the minute things start going south.I think he would kill it in Dallas.

[Chief Northman]

The Lincoln Riley to Dallas talk has sure gone silent since the Sooners got annihilated Saturday night....

[Dartgod]

I mean considering Kafka is the guy who is directly responsible for fixing a lot of Mahomes' footwork and technique problems you would think he would be the guy.

Neither one is going to call plays so why would Shurmur even come?

Ummm, because OC's under Reid get head coaching gigs?

[Easy 6]

I think Dallas needs a big personality to counter act Jones.

McCarthy would work. He's got a winning record and super bowl ring

Jerruh isn’t suffering anyone below him, for better or worse he’s your GM... or go pound sand

Dallas will forever be the victim of Jerruhs success

[RealSNR]

Nagy got the OC job only after one year of being “tutored” by Childress. Remember that?

Reid would totally give the job to Kafka and bring Shurmur aboard to be “senior offensive assistant” or whatever Chilly’s title was

[BigRedChief]

Interviewing with the Panthers today.

[rabblerouser]

Good luck to him. Any chance the Bears fire Nagy and he slides into the Chiefs OC job?

Pat Shurner replaces EB

[Otter]

I wonder if the Chiefs make it to the Super Bowl and knowing that you have Patrick to work with as the QB if some sort of arrangement can be arranged for him to stay. </br></br> Between salary upgrade and taking over for Reid as negotiation tools I'm guessing it's possible.

[rabblerouser]

I mean considering Kafka is the guy who is directly responsible for fixing a lot of Mahomes' footwork and technique problems you would think he would be the guy.

Neither one is going to call plays so why would Shurmur even come?

Shurmer would come to work with Reid again, and Kafka being the guy who works with Mahomes on footwork and technique, wouldn't we want him to continue in that capacity?

[CaliforniaChief]

I think it's pretty clear that Mike Kafka becomes the OC if EB gets hired elsewhere. And the Reid tree continues to grow.

[Chris Meck]

I think EB would be most useful in a situation with a young QB.

Giants or Browns come to mind immediately. I think he'd do well in those spots.

Of course any of the bottom 5 are spots you could draft a QB if you haven't already.

[Prison Bitch]

Who. ****ing. Cares. Bieniemy is intricately involved in the offensive game plan. Reid thinks he’s ready to be a head coach.

Or wants him to leave

[Gravedigger]

I’d like to see what he could do with Saquon or McCaffrey. Would be a good situation either way.

[KChiefs1]

Peter King interviews EB.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peter-king-podcast/id1150960126?i=1000461314349

[TEX]

The NFL should not allow this distraction but it is what it is. It's not changing any time soon. I thought he'd be gone last year. Teams want what we have. Thats a good thing but....... they should wait until after the Super Bowl to start hiring coaches to be fair to the coaches in the playoffs and avoid distractions.



<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Panthers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Panthers</a> have submitted a request for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OC Eric Bieniemy, sources say. The plan is to interview him for their head coach opening this week. A strong candidate who Andy Reid has publicly supported as very ready.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1211633478510485504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

Exactly. There needs to be an equal waiting period for all, for this kind of thing. IMO, bad teams in need of coaches should not be able to disrupt the good teams preparation in any manner, until after the Super Bowl. That way teams can't get a jump on other teams. Use the off season for this.

[jjchieffan]

Exactly. There needs to be an equal waiting period for all, for this kind of thing. IMO, bad teams in need of coaches should not be able to disrupt the good teams preparation in any manner, until after the Super Bowl. That way teams can't get a jump on another teams. Use the off season for this.

I agree. Charlie Weis was talking on Sirius the other day about that. He said that he had been all but hired as a headcoach one postseason. But the hiring team told him that if they won that weekend, that they would go with someone else. They won and he didn't get the job. Charlie said that he reported it to the team owner and to the league prior to the game so that there wouldn't be any doubt later. But how often do you think that happens? How many coaches would purposefully tank the game to ensure that they get that dream job? That's a bunch of crap.

[DRM08]

Pat Shurner replaces EB

I’m not against that. Shurmur seems like a pretty good OC and would be nice to have some new eyes/input for Patrick and the rest of the offensive players.

[TribalElder]

Hope Bieniemy gets serious interest and not just providing Rooney rule interviews

[The Franchise]

Hope Bieniemy gets serious interest and not just providing Rooney rule interviews

As long as it doesn’t screw up our SB run......then I’m all for him getting that Panthers job.

[RealSNR]

Bieniemy is gonna be a good coach, but I’m not sure it will happen this year for him. There just aren’t many openings even if you include Dallas, and you figure McCarthy is going to take one of the jobs. That leaves basically two openings, and he has to compete with Roman, Martindale, and McDaniels, not to mention all this chatter about Urban Meyer.

[Coochie liquor]

Bieniemy is gonna be a good coach, but I’m not sure it will happen this year for him. There just aren’t many openings even if you include Dallas, and you figure McCarthy is going to take one of the jobs. That leaves basically two openings, and he has to compete with Roman, Martindale, and McDaniels, not to mention all this chatter about Urban Meyer.

Should be funny to watch how the Ravens keep up if they lose their OC and DC. Roman is the perfect OC for Lamar.

[BigRedChief]

Interviewing with the Browns today.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/03/cleveland-browns-interviewing-kansas-city-chiefs-oc-eric-bieniemy-for-head-coach-vacancy/

We now have a better idea of Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy’s head coach interview schedule during the team’s first-round bye week.

Our latest update on Bieniemy had him scheduled to meet with the Carolina Panthers on Wednesday. That interview has already concluded despite a report that the interview could carry on into today. Now, Bieniemy has moved onto the second interview on his slate with the Cleveland Browns.

[Coochie liquor]

Interviewing with the Browns today.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/03/cleveland-browns-interviewing-kansas-city-chiefs-oc-eric-bieniemy-for-head-coach-vacancy/

We now have a better idea of Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy’s head coach interview schedule during the team’s first-round bye week.

Our latest update on Bieniemy had him scheduled to meet with the Carolina Panthers on Wednesday. That interview has already concluded despite a report that the interview could carry on into today. Now, Bieniemy has moved onto the second interview on his slate with the Cleveland Browns.
So do teams come to our facilities to interview or do they fly EB to them?

[Dunerdr]

i would assume fly eb to them, i remember reports in years past saying so and so is in x city today plans to visit x city tomorrow.

[BigRedChief]

So do teams come to our facilities to interview or do they fly EB to them?He’s at their city and facilities. But, I remember Hunt flying to Philly and meeting Reid and then getting on his private plane back to KC.

[FAX]

I'm certain that I will be in the minority with this opinion ...

However, I'm unconvinced that EB would be a "good" head coach. Let alone a "great" one.

I have absolutely no basis for this notion. None. He just doesn't strike me as person who, when it comes to being the dominant face of a franchise, possesses the necessary abilities.

FAX THE SKEPTICAL

[Megatron96]

I'm certain that I will be in the minority with this opinion ...

However, I'm unconvinced that EB would be a "good" head coach. Let alone a "great" one.

I have absolutely no basis for this notion. None. He just doesn't strike me as person who, when it comes to being the dominant face of a franchise, possesses the necessary abilities.

FAX THE SKEPTICAL

I felt about the same way last year and most of this year.

Then I watched several segments of "The Franchise," heard what Andy and a couple of the other coaches had to say about him, how the players react to him, and I've had a change of heart.

It's fairly obviously that he's smart and capable. He apparently has a photographic memory, or very close to it. And it's obvious that the players respect him and react to him in very positive ways. There's even a bit where Pat has some comments about Eric, and they are very positive.

I think if EB is given a good situation, such as the Panthers, he'll do just fine. And it wouldn't surprise me if EB hired an OC and left the play-calling to someone else. Not saying that Eric wouldn't be able to call the plays, just that he is smart enough not to make things that much more complicated for himself.

[Rukdafaidas]

I felt about the same way last year and most of thisyear.

Then I watched several segments of "The Franchise," heard what Andy and a couple of the other coaches had to say about him, how the players react to him, and I've had a change of heart.

It's fairly obviously that he's smart and capable. He apparently has a photographic memory, or very close to it. And it's obvious that the players respect him and react to him in very positive ways. There's even a bit where Pat has some comments about Eric, and they are very positive.

I think if EB is given a good situation, such as the Panthers, he'll do just fine. And it wouldn't surprise me if EB hired an OC and left the play-calling to someone else. Not saying that Eric wouldn't be able to call the plays, just that he is smart enough not to make things that much more complicated for himself.
I could see him hiring Shurmur as an OC and the Chiefs promoting Kafka.

[chinaski]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5 things to know about our HC candidate Eric Bieniemy, who has been an instrumental part of guiding Kansas City&#39;s offense since 2013.<br><br>📋 » <a href="https://t.co/laQ3J0UyJZ">https://t.co/laQ3J0UyJZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/JElVa1ehIG">pic.twitter.com/JElVa1ehIG</a></p>&mdash; Cleveland Browns (@Browns) <a href="https://twitter.com/Browns/status/1213223026436792320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Coochie liquor]

Please don’t waste your time/opportunity on the Browns.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I'm certain that I will be in the minority with this opinion ...

However, I'm unconvinced that EB would be a "good" head coach. Let alone a "great" one.

I have absolutely no basis for this notion. None. He just doesn't strike me as person who, when it comes to being the dominant face of a franchise, possesses the necessary abilities.

FAX THE SKEPTICAL
That may be one of the worst takes I’ve seen here in a while. If you have zero basis for the opinion, where does it originate?

Reid has had nothing but praise for him since he got to KC. The players have always respected him and his knowledge of the game.

I don’t get this. At all.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I felt about the same way last year and most of this year.

Then I watched several segments of "The Franchise," heard what Andy and a couple of the other coaches had to say about him, how the players react to him, and I've had a change of heart.

It's fairly obviously that he's smart and capable. He apparently has a photographic memory, or very close to it. And it's obvious that the players respect him and react to him in very positive ways. There's even a bit where Pat has some comments about Eric, and they are very positive.

I think if EB is given a good situation, such as the Panthers, he'll do just fine. And it wouldn't surprise me if EB hired an OC and left the play-calling to someone else. Not saying that Eric wouldn't be able to call the plays, just that he is smart enough not to make things that much more complicated for himself.why did you feel that way?

[Straight, No Chaser]

He should wait until next year. Fine, go through the interview process. There’s a reason both those teams need a HC... not great, not even good situations for a 1st time HC position. Look at what landed Vance Johnson back to coordinator. Wait until next year!

[FloridaMan88]

Would Andy give any consideration to hiring Jason Garrett as QB coach if EB becomes a HC and Kafka presumably becomes OC?

This of course assumes that Garrett actually “separates” from Jerry World at some point.

Andy could also continue to promote from within and make Joe Bleymaier QB coach (this would be my preference, to continue keeping it in-house).

[chinaski]

Please don’t waste your time/opportunity on the Browns.

Agreed. He would fail before he even started, and it wouldn't even be his fault. Eff that team.

[Chiefshrink]

Should be funny to watch how the Ravens keep up if they lose their OC and DC. Roman is the perfect OC for Lamar.

Roman has a dumbed down RPO offense for Lamar with a hellacious o-line and extremely good TEs that run block not to mention pass catch as well. Like "Prime" said he needs all those "key cogs" in place or he is not nearly as effective.

Give Lamar an average o-line with average TEs with no dumbed down RPO offense and he ain't no 1st team All Pro QB. He will be exposed in due time.

[GloryDayz]

I just heard Giants too, so Carolina, Cleveland, and the Giants (tomorrow). Yeah, he's gone.

[Chief Roundup]

I just heard Giants too, so Carolina, Cleveland, and the Giants (tomorrow). Yeah, he's gone.

Man none of those just scream great place and situation.
Giants have a young QB and RB. He would have to deal with Gettlemen and if he is let go next season then you have to deal with a new GM and his "plan" and scouting department.
Carolina is Newton done or is Kyle Allen the QB of the future. Neither option looks very good.
Cleveland.....well they are Cleveland they are a mess from the Ownership on down.

[FAX]

That may be one of the worst takes I’ve seen here in a while. If you have zero basis for the opinion, where does it originate?

Reid has had nothing but praise for him since he got to KC. The players have always respected him and his knowledge of the game.

I don’t get this. At all.

It's a ... sense. Nothing more.

I merely have this nagging doubt that he possesses the requisite skills to publicly represent an entire franchise, deal with the press, recruit and train staff, work with a GM and owner to evaluate and effectively quantify talent, and institute a system that can flourish.

On the other hand, I have no doubt that he can coach. He's proven that.

All those other abilities? I haven't seen them and that's probably why I'm uncertain as to his talents in those areas.

As for Wally and the players? They're not saying anything I wouldn't expect them to say.

I hope EB can be and will be successful. We'll see. If he's hired somewhere decent (hopefully not Cleveland), we'll find out.

FAX THE TAKER OF WORSTS

[BigRedChief]

I just heard Giants too, so Carolina, Cleveland, and the Giants (tomorrow). Yeah, he's gone.and leaves no doubt who’s doing the game plan for the first playoff game.

How are you showing up for work on Sunday after 3 straight days days of interviews in 3 different cities refreshed from a bye? You have to be one tired dude after that stressed out time.

[BigRedChief]

Add the Giants to the list per NFLNOP updated

[NJChiefsFan]

Shurmer would come to work with Reid again, and Kafka being the guy who works with Mahomes on footwork and technique, wouldn't we want him to continue in that capacity?

Sure but we would like other coaches who have left to have continued in their capacity as well. The risk of losing Kafka if we don't promote him may not be high but if people are high and him and they think he is ready I could see them moving him up to make sure he stays. Plus Reid is loyal.

I'll take as many good minds as we can have.

[Coochie liquor]

Of the 3 current teams he’s interviewing for, Carolina seems the best fit for him. Giants are a mess with their current GM situation, and the Browns are...well... the Browns.

[Chiefs Moon]

Sure but we would like other coaches who have left to have continued in their capacity as well. The risk of losing Kafka if we don't promote him may not be high but if people are high and him and they think he is ready I could see them moving him up to make sure he stays. Plus Reid is loyal.

I'll take as many good minds as we can have.

Did the Bears fire their OC?

[Chargem]

Did the Bears fire their OC?

Pretty sure they did, but the Chiefs can block interviews for their assistants moving to other assistant roles.

[wazu]

Of the 3 current teams he’s interviewing for, Carolina seems the best fit for him. Giants are a mess with their current GM situation, and the Browns are...well... the Browns.

Panthers QB situation is a mess, though. For me that trumps all. Browns at least have talent to work with.

[BigRedChief]

Sure but we would like other coaches who have left to have continued in their capacity as well. The risk of losing Kafka if we don't promote him may not be high but if people are high and him and they think he is ready I could see them moving him up to make sure he stays. Plus Reid is loyal.

I'll take as many good minds as we can have.Isn't that Reid's MO forever? At least on the offensive side of the ball. He promotes from within, Thats why he gets top coaches. It's a great move for coaches wanting to move up to HC eventually.

One of his latest OC's won a SB and getting all kinds of acclaim of getting them to the playoffs with all their injuries. The other one doesn't deserve any blame for Tribinsky.

It took being the worse defensive team in football for him to clean house on defense. He'll promote Kafka. Shumar worked with him for 10 years so he' a Reid guy, Maybe he gives him some sort of coach emeritus title and if he wants, be the OC in waiting after Kafka gets a HC job?

[BigRedChief]

Pretty sure they did, but the Chiefs can block interviews for their assistants moving to other assistant roles.Yeah, if its not an official rule, its definitely an unwritten rule.

[Chargem]

Yeah, if its not an official rule, its definitely an unwritten rule.

It is an official rule, can block every interview apart from for HC.

[Chiefshrink]

I think Dallas needs a big personality to counter act Jones.

McCarthy would work. He's got a winning record and super bowl ring

Well it's not like McCarthy doesn't know what he is getting into. Just depends on what Mike is willing to put up with.

[BigRedChief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Giants have interviewed Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy for head coach position. <br><br>Details ⬇️</p>&mdash; New York Giants (@Giants) <a href="https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1213514590811828224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GloryDayz]

Has he announced which team he's leaving for?

[FloridaMan88]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Panthers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Panthers</a> team reporter <a href="https://twitter.com/ncarolinecann?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ncarolinecann</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/wfnz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WFNZ</a> the Eric Bieniemy interview went well and he “likes Cam Newton and wants to work with Cam Newton.”<br><br>Says team turns its attention to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Baylor?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Baylor</a> HC Matt Rhule early next week, and Josh McDaniels later in the week.</p>&mdash; Nick Carboni (@NickCarboniWCNC) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickCarboniWCNC/status/1213130697747156992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BigRedChief]

OP Updated

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He had on me as player and person speaks volumes of his character. A very detailed person and absolutely knows his stuff.</p>&mdash; Cj Spiller (@CJSPILLER) <a href="https://twitter.com/CJSPILLER/status/1214608150273363969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Imon Yourside]

Some real head scratchers as hires, amazing.

[BigRedChief]

So was he the token interview?

[MahiMike]

Has he token the job yet?

[JakeF]

Cleveland fucked up so badly. Why in the hell would they fire Dorsey after he took them from struggling to win a single game each year to being talked about as a playoff/super bowl team?

Will Bieniemy, or other top HC candidates, dare go to Cleveland?

[rabblerouser]

Cleveland ****ed up so badly. Why in the hell would they fire Dorsey after he took them from struggling to win a single game each year to being talked about as a playoff/super bowl team?

Will Bieniemy, or other top HC candidates, dare go to Cleveland?

They're such a fucking dumpster fire.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

But but but zilla said they were sooooooo talented ROFL

[Kidd Lex]

But but but zilla said they were sooooooo talented ROFL

Yeah, early on I told that dipshit and others Dorsey was in trouble and they argued that I was out of my mind. Then when he was fired the dialogue changed, but never owned how wrong they were. Fuck Zilla

[Sassy Squatch]

So he's the new Rooney interview patsy. What a goddamn shame.

[chiefzilla1501]

But but but zilla said they were sooooooo talented ROFL

You're a moron.

The Browns are plenty talented. Them being talented and the organization being a mess are 2 different things.

None of the coaches they wanted have said no. They wanted McDaniels or Stefanski. They are both in play.

[Bob Dole]

I would much rather stay in KC as the OC than get thrust into that mess in Cleveland.

[BossChief]

I listened to an interview with Eric a week or 2 ago that immediately made me think “no way is this guy a head coach” from the way he responded to the questions.

One was asking him specifically about Mahomes and how he was told Pat memorizes the plays for that week so he can change calls on the fly and how amazing that talent is. Eric took that as kudos to him and immediately took credit and patted himself on the back a few times about it with an arrogant laugh like haha yeah that’s me. I work awfully hard at that.

It was the complete opposite of what a genuine leader of a whole team would say. Maybe an average coach, but not a great one. It also came off as un-genuine and shallow.

I’ve been a big fan of his and I love going to camp and watching him coach the backs specifically. He’s a very talented RB coach. Possibly the best. I’m not sold that he’s an amazing OC or would be a great HC, though and it seems that’s what teams are coming away thinking, too.

[RealSNR]

Giants GM Brooke Pryor was ready to hire Bieniemy, but then she went to wikipedia and found this out:

On September 27, 1993, Bieniemy was arrested in Boulder, Colorado for allegedly harassing a parking attendant.[7] According to the police report, Bieniemy "Bieniemy was with five friends in a parking lot when he allegedly approached a lot attendant from behind and grabbed her by the neck. The victim told police the contact was not painful, but it startled her. She said the man also made comments while holding her."[8] As a result of this incident, Bieniemy was banned from the University of Colorado Boulder campus for one year. [9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Bieniemy

[chiefzilla1501]

Yeah, early on I told that dipshit and others Dorsey was in trouble and they argued that I was out of my mind. Then when he was fired the dialogue changed, but never owned how wrong they were. **** Zilla

I was wrong about Dorsey being in trouble. I don't care about admitting that. I never denied that it was possible Dorsey was being difficult to work with behind the scenes. But sure, I didn't think it had gotten that bad. Nobody did. And that was the reason he was fired. Not the Baker pick. Not the easily fixable Kitchens disaster (which the Haslams are just as culpable). And certainly not the personnel decisions. Anyone who said it was personnel is an unreasonable Dorsey hater. Anyone who said it was Baker is an unreasonable Baker hater. Those were mostly the people I was arguing with, not you.

[chiefzilla1501]

I listened to an interview with Eric a week or 2 ago that immediately made me think “no way is this guy a head coach” from the way he responded to the questions.

One was asking him specifically about Mahomes and how he was told Pat memorizes the plays for that week so he can change calls on the fly and how amazing that talent is. Eric took that as kudos to him and immediately took credit and patted himself on the back a few times about it with an arrogant laugh like haha yeah that’s me. I work awfully hard at that.

It was the complete opposite of what a genuine leader of a whole team would say. Maybe an average coach, but not a great one. It also came off as un-genuine and shallow.

I’ve been a big fan of his and I love going to camp and watching him coach the backs specifically. He’s a very talented RB coach. Possibly the best. I’m not sold that he’s an amazing OC or would be a great HC, though and it seems that’s what teams are coming away thinking, too.

I like Bieniemy a ton. There's a part of me that was intrigued with our options. I'm excited about Kafka's potential. Who knows, maybe we could have brought Shurmur in to help coordinate.

[Kidd Lex]

I was wrong about Dorsey being in trouble. I don't care about admitting that. I never denied that it was possible Dorsey was being difficult to work with behind the scenes. But sure, I didn't think it had gotten that bad. Nobody did. And that was the reason he was fired. Not the Baker pick. Not the easily fixable Kitchens disaster (which the Haslams are just as culpable). And certainly not the personnel decisions. Anyone who said it was personnel is an unreasonable Dorsey hater. Anyone who said it was Baker is an unreasonable Baker hater. Those were mostly the people I was arguing with, not you.

Alright, that’s a fair measured response. My bad Zilla.

I LOVED Dorsey and was pissed when he was fired from KC, and I was dead wrong. The more I learned the more I understood Dorseys shortcomings, and generally speaking people at his level of professional success (Being in a NFL front office, not his success there) don’t change their stripes.

[displacedinMN]

Good and bad here.

Good-we get to keep EB.

Bad-He deserves a head coach job

[BigRedChief]

Good and bad here.

Good-we get to keep EB.

Bad-He deserves a head coach jobA meritocracy should exist.

Reid is the 2nd best coach in the league. He publicly says he's going to be a helluva coach. He is ready. Mahomes publicly gives him credit in his development and his experience under Reid, the teams success, is all the evidence needed that he should be a NFL coach.

So the question needs to be asked, Why doesn't he have a head coaching job? 80% black players in the league, 4/32 black head coaches. Same ratio in the NFL front offices. Whats up with that? Looks on its face, token.

Maybe these Billionaire owners need to take a serious look at this ratio. EB should have been given a chance over someone that was selected. He has earned it on merit.

[BigRedChief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said that Eric Bieniemy had a great gameplan for today. Subtweeting, I don&#39;t know, the entire NFL.</p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1216509869085331458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Chris Meck]

If I owned the Houston Texans, I would fire O'Brien and hire Bienemy.

Like...tomorrow.

[FloridaMan88]

Cleveland hires the OC as their new HC (Kevin Stefanski) whose Vikings offense had like seven first downs and the fourth fewest total yards in a game in playoff history yesterday over EB who helped coach a record setting offense today.

[ping2000]

Cleveland hires the OC as their new HC (Kevin Stefanski) whose Vikings offense had like seven first downs and the fourth fewest total yards in a game in playoff history yesterday over EB who helped coach a record setting offense today.Awesome. Eric will get his shot next year after we repeat as Super Bowl champions.

[Buehler445]

If I owned the Houston Texans, I would fire O'Brien and hire Bienemy.

Like...tomorrow.

Like ... on the plane ride back.