Mathieu only All-Pro from Chiefs

[Coogs]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28416013/panthers-star-christian-mccaffrey-named-all-pro-team-2-positions

[comochiefsfan]

Absolute joke that Kittle got it over Kelce.

[wazu]

Absolute joke that Kittle got it over Kelce.

Oh, come on. It is not.

[comochiefsfan]

Oh, come on. It is not.

Compare the stats. Kelce was the better tight end this season.

[The Franchise]

There is only one thing that matters this season. ONE.

[DaFace]

All Pro for Mathieu but not Pro Bowl huh? :hmmm:

[KC Hawks]

Kelce, Schwartz, and Hardman made second-team.

[Clyde Frog]

Compare the stats. Kelce was the better tight end this season.

This 100%...

Kelce - 97 Rec, 1229 Yds, 12.7 Avg, 5 TD
Kitlle - 85 Rec, 1053 Yds, 12.4 Avg, 5 TD


I don't understand the general, consensus fascination, outside of KC fans, with undermining Kelce and his accomplishments/greatness.

[DRM08]

There is only one thing that matters this season. ONE.

Yep. Given all the injury problems with key players this year, they are fortunate to be pretty healthy right now. Juan's injury sucks, but hopefully will not cost them.

[DaFace]

Oh, come on. It is not.

I wouldn't call it an "absolute joke," but Kelce has definitely been insanely good this year. He's just done it slowly and steadily rather than through a smaller number of flashy plays.

Kelce: 1229 yards, 5 TDs
Kittle: 1053 yards, 5 TDs

[Wilson8]

Mitchell Schwartz made Second-Team Right Tackle on Offense.
Mecole Hardman made Second-Team Kick Returner

[staylor26]

There is only one thing that matters this season. ONE.

And all this does, along with all of the Ravens dick riding, is piss us off. Blessing in disguise IMO.

[Wallcrawler]

Kelce

97 rec, 1,229 yards, 12.7 avg, long 41, 5 TD.


Kittle

85 rec,1053 yards, 12.4 avg, long 61, 5 TD


Kelce was 12/176 better than Kittle.

Kittle's beast mode play against New Orleans where he dragged multiple guys while being facemasked to put them in position to win that insanely high scoring game is likely what put him over the top.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Kittle is one of the new up-and-coming superstars that folks are falling in love with. Of course he'll be overvalued above the already established player(s).

[ChiefsCountry]

This 100%...

Kelce - 97 Rec, 1229 Yds, 12.7 Avg, 5 TD
Kitlle - 85 Rec, 1053 Yds, 12.4 Avg, 5 TD


I don't understand the general, consensus fascination, outside of KC fans, with undermining Kelce and his accomplishments/greatness.

Kittle played in 14 games compared to 16 for Kelce. Both are outstanding players.

[smithandrew051]

Frank Clark, Tyreek Hill, Chris Jones, and Patrick Mahomes will make it next year when they have healthy seasons.

[Eleazar]

Absolute joke that Kittle got it over Kelce.

Their numbers are virtually identical on a per-game basis, Kittle played two fewer games.

The two are very close to one another, it's not an "absolute joke". It's a coin flip.

[wazu]

I wouldn't call it an "absolute joke," but Kelce has definitely been insanely good this year. He's just done it slowly and steadily rather than through a smaller number of flashy plays.

Kelce: 1229 yards, 5 TDs
Kittle: 1053 yards, 5 TDs

They're both awesome. Could be argued either way. Kittle is the most important player on the 49ers offense, and arguably the only other player in the entire division more important than him is Russell Wilson.

[RealSNR]

Let me guess. Lamar in as the QB?

Good job on Lamar. Good job staying healthy. Good job taking care of the football. Good job improving significantly as a passer from year 1 to 2. Good job on those impressive stats.

He’s not better than Patrick Mahomes. End of story.

[DRM08]

Let me guess. Lamar in as the QB?

Good job on Lamar. Good job staying healthy. Good job taking care of the football. Good job improving significantly as a passer from year 1 to 2. Good job on those impressive stats.

He’s not better than Patrick Mahomes. End of story.

1st team - Lamar Jackson
2nd team - Russell Wilson

Got no problem with that. They both had great years.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Schwartz Kelce and Hardman all made second team!

[ptlyon]

And somewhere in green bay Rodgers kicks a puppy

[Megatron96]

Compare the stats. Kelce was the better tight end this season.

I think it's incredible that Kelce posted his numbers without Pat for three games.

Or to put it in another way, Kelce continued to post good stats with a HS football coach as his QB for 3 games.

But I get the Kittle thing. He did have a great season, on a team with a great record, in a high-profile market.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you to all that voted me All PRO (1st TEAM) Thank you to Brett Veach, Coach reid, Coach Spagz, &amp; Coach Merritt for believing in me &amp; giving my keys to their defense.</p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1213153527452852224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[SAUTO]

They're both awesome. Could be argued either way. Kittle is the most important player on the 49ers offense, and arguably the only other player in the entire division more important than him is Russell Wilson.

everyone saw kittle fighting through a facemask...

[Clyde Frog]

Kittle played in 14 games compared to 16 for Kelce. Both are outstanding players.

Apparently being out games counted against PM2...

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Apparently being out games counted against PM2...

Lamar and Russ has better seasons this year. Russ is the only reason why Seattle is in the playoffs

[scho63]

This 100%...

Kelce - 97 Rec, 1229 Yds, 12.7 Avg, 5 TD
Kitlle - 85 Rec, 1053 Yds, 12.4 Avg, 5 TD


I don't understand the general, consensus fascination, outside of KC fans, with undermining Kelce and his accomplishments/greatness.

I would LOVE to know the 3rd down conversion stats for each of these guys :hmmm:

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

I would LOVE to know the 3rd down conversion stats for each of these guys :hmmm:

Overall we were the best third down conversion team in the league and San Fran being number 5. Can’t find anything on the players tho

[Clyde Frog]

Lamar and Russ has better seasons this year. Russ is the only reason why Seattle is in the playoffs

The argument I've been seeing for Kittle over Kelce is less games and similar production means you should be voted in over others who played more snaps/games. Logic doesn't work out for one position and not another.

LJ: Games - 15, C% - 66.1 Yds - 3,127, TD - 36, INT - 6, PR - 113.3
RW: Games - 16, C% - 66.1, Yds - 4,110, TD - 31, INT - 5, PR - 106.3
PM2: Games - 13, C% - 65.9, Yds - 4,031, TD - 26, INT - 5, PR - 105.3

[Marcellus]

everyone saw kittle fighting through a facemask...

Bingo. He had a signature play.

[-King-]

I think Kelce is better but kittle makes flashier plays nowadays so people remember him more.

[lawrenceRaider]

Kelce is the best TE in the NFL. Period.

Pure lunacy that he isn't 1st team All Pro.

[SupDock]

I think Kelce is better but kittle makes flashier plays nowadays so people remember him more.

This.

[DTHOF]

I see people arguing for Kittle because he missed a couple games and only difference between Kelce and Kittle is that fact. So now availability is not a factor???

[ThaVirus]

People in here are really butthurt about Kittle over Kelce.

Of course Kelce's got better volume stats, he's got nearly 30 more targets than Kittle and he's catching passes from the GOAT.

Kelce appears to be more durable while Kittle's the better blocker. You can't go wrong either way.

[OKchiefs]

People in here are really butthurt about Kittle over Kelce.

Of course Kelce's got better volume stats, he's got nearly 30 more targets than Kittle and he's catching passes from the GOAT.

Kelce appears to be more durable while Kittle's the better blocker. You can't go wrong either way.

Kelce has a higher average, so it's not just volume.

[Easy 6]

All Pro for Mathieu but not Pro Bowl huh? :hmmm:

Idiot fans get to vote for Pro Bowlers

[Spott]

Does this mean he get to play in the All-Pro Bowl?

[SupDock]

The whole thing is messed up. How did Hopkins make all pro. How are Christian McCaffrey and Derrick Henry all pro at two psoti6?

[Buehler445]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you to all that voted me All PRO (1st TEAM) Thank you to Brett Veach, Coach reid, Coach Spagz, &amp; Coach Merritt for believing in me &amp; giving my keys to their defense.</p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1213153527452852224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Respect.

[Az_Chiefsfan]

I really don’t have a big problem with Kittle over Kielce. Kittle is a phenomenal blocker had similar production with fewer drops.....

[tyecopeland]

The whole thing is messed up. How did Hopkins make all pro. How are Christian McCaffrey and Derrick Henry all pro at two psoti6?



Mathieu made it twice didnt he? First team db and 2nd team safety?

[JimNasium]

Mathieu made it twice didnt he? First team db and 2nd team safety?

Yip

[SAGA45]

This 100%...

Kelce - 97 Rec, 1229 Yds, 12.7 Avg, 5 TD
Kitlle - 85 Rec, 1053 Yds, 12.4 Avg, 5 TD


I don't understand the general, consensus fascination, outside of KC fans, with undermining Kelce and his accomplishments/greatness.

Kittle missed 2-4 games. For the stats to be that comparable is in Kittle's favor.

[Chiefshrink]

Absolute joke that Kittle got it over Kelce.

No it's not. Kittle is where Kelce was a couple of years ago when everyone was drooling over Kelce as opposed to Gronk. Kittle and the defense are why the Niners have a 1st rd bye.

Kittle is faster, quicker, and actually blocks better than Kelce. And both are good blockers. Both have equal hands however Kelce has more drops with a much better QB throwing to him. Besides who cares what the sports press thinks. They just take a "popular flavor of the day" approach as does the entertainment press in general to keep things fresh and forward.:rolleyes:

[ThaVirus]

The AP is quickly becoming the sham the Pro Bowl's been for years.

Deandre Hopkins was 1st team this season, Frank Clark got 1 vote as an interior DL, some fucking dumbshit gave Edelman a vote at WR.

They've got designations for CB, S and "defensive back". Similarly, they've got the flex position on offense.

4-3 OLBs have been snubbed for years.

The whole system needs an overhaul.

[Chiefshrink]

The AP is quickly becoming the sham the Pro Bowl's been for years.

Deandre Hopkins was 1st team this season, Frank Clark got 1 vote as an interior DL, some ****ing dumbshit gave Edelman a vote at WR.

They've got designations for CB, S and "defensive back". Similarly, they've got the flex position on offense.

4-3 OLBs have been snubbed for years.

The whole system needs an overhaul.

Yep. It's a popularity contest.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Is there a reason to care about this kind of crap?

Nope...We are chasing championships here.

[Coogs]

Is there a reason to care about this kind of crap?

Nope...We are chasing championships here.

Sorry that I cluttered up the front page with this. I will try and do better in the future.

[Rasputin]

I haven't watched the Pro Bowl since ...

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[Setsuna]

The AP is quickly becoming the sham the Pro Bowl's been for years.

Deandre Hopkins was 1st team this season, Frank Clark got 1 vote as an interior DL, some ****ing dumbshit gave Edelman a vote at WR.

They've got designations for CB, S and "defensive back". Similarly, they've got the flex position on offense.

4-3 OLBs have been snubbed for years.

The whole system needs an overhaul.

Yep. It's a popularity contest.
I see. So if Kelce did make it over Kittle would it still be a sham? It would have to be in order for you to be objective. But ofc you aren't. Just butt hurt for no reason.LMAO

[ThaVirus]

I see. So if Kelce did make it over Kittle would it still be a sham? It would have to be in order for you to be objective. But ofc you aren't. Just butt hurt for no reason.LMAO


Honest to God, you’re the dumbest motherfucker who regularly posts on this board.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Honest to God, you’re the dumbest mother****er who regularly posts on this board.

Says the one who compared Honey Badger to Taysom fucking Hill

[Setsuna]

Honest to God, you’re the dumbest mother****er who regularly posts on this board.

If you think so, then I feel really good about myself. Thanks! :thumb:

[ThaVirus]

Says the one who compared Honey Badger to Taysom fucking Hill

Oops. I don’t know how I could have forgotten about you.

[Megatron96]

Says the one who compared Honey Badger to Taysom ****ing Hill

How does one compare Tyrann to Tayson? They don't even play the same position?