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IowaHawkeyeChief
01-25-2020, 03:34 PM
Idiots are as bad as Brooke Pryor...

https://nypost.com/2020/01/25/tyreek-hills-unsettling-past-puts-super-bowl-2020-fans-in-awkward-spot/
It would have been hard to imagine Tyreek Hill playing in the Super Bowl last spring.

The Chiefs wide receiver had been told to stay away from the team facility. He looked in line for at least a suspension and at worst jail time, after being accused of breaking the arm of his 3-year-old son.

But here we are, getting ready for Super Bowl 2020 next week, and Hill will be one of the stars of the big show.

So, how do we reconcile appreciating Hill the athlete while not feeling so good about Hill the person? It is one of the challenges of being a fan. Where do you draw the line? Is it OK to marvel at Hill’s remarkable speed and athleticism? Do you want him on your fantasy football team? Would you allow your child to wear his jersey?

Chiefs fans gave Hill a standing ovation on the first day of training camp after the NFL and district attorney had not found enough evidence to suspend him or pursue charges in the case of his son’s injury.

The district attorney was careful to point out, though, that a crime had been committed against the 3-year-old, but he did not have enough evidence to prosecute Hill or his fiancée, the boy’s mother.

“This office has reviewed all the evidence and has declined to file charges against Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal,” Johnson County District Attorney Steve Howe said. “We are deeply troubled by the situation. We believe a crime has occurred, however, the evidence in this case doesn’t establish who committed a crime.”

Though there was not enough evidence for a real court, Hill still felt guilty in the court of public opinion after an audio tape surfaced of a conversation between him and Espinal.

Espinal told Hill, “He is terrified of you,” referring to their son.

“You need to be terrified of me, too b—-,” Hill responded.

Espinal said Hill punched the boy in the chest, something Hill later tried to explain as teaching him how to box.

This was not Hill’s first run in with the law either. When he was at Oklahoma State in 2014, Hill was arrested and pleaded guilty to domestic assault and battery by strangulation for an assault on Espinal, then his pregnant girlfriend. The police report states Hill repeatedly punched her in the stomach and choked her. Oklahoma State kicked him off the football team, and he finished his career at West Alabama.

That incident caused NFL teams to think long and hard about Hill. The Chiefs ended up drafting him in the fifth round, far lower than he would have gone without those character concerns.

Now, he is part of the Chiefs’ explosive offense. Kansas City signed him to a three-year, $54 million contract before this season. He caught seven touchdown passes this season and had two in the AFC Championship game win over the Titans.

For the most part, the accusations of last spring have receded into the background, but Hill will be in the spotlight this week in Miami and will surely be asked about the incident with his son. Ray Lewis had to answer plenty of uncomfortable questions at Super Bowl XXXV in January 2001, a year after he was involved in a murder case — charges that were later dismissed in exchange for testimony against his associates and a guilty plea on obstruction of justice.

Closer to home, Giants fans know what it is like to reconcile loving Lawrence Taylor the linebacker, but not feeling so good about LT, the guy. All teams have players who have had legal problems. The NFL is not a league of choirboys.

Hill’s crime in college and his alleged crime last spring are about the most reprehensible crimes you can think of — abusing a woman and a child.

Fans are going to have to decide for themselves. Will you be screaming for Hill to score a touchdown so you can win your box pool? Will you place a prop bet on him to score the first touchdown? What if he is named MVP?

Being a fan should be simple. It should be a distraction from reality. Hill’s presence this week complicates things and raises plenty of uncomfortable questions that don’t have easy answers.

eDave
01-25-2020, 03:36 PM
:rolleyes: Nice investigative journalism there. Inevitable. Things will rev up next week.

Hope he goes OFF on Sunday.

4321

KurtCobain
01-25-2020, 03:38 PM
The New York Post's mom is a bad person.

smithandrew051
01-25-2020, 03:43 PM
“Alleged crime this summer”?

There’s no alleged crime. No accusation. No investigation. Nothing. That’s some slanted reporting for sure.

dlphg9
01-25-2020, 03:45 PM
These dumb fucks love to quote that dipshit district attorney. Also comparing Hill's situation to Ray Lewis' is fucking stupid. It's not like they did an investigation and found no evidence of him murdering someone. He just snitched to get it dropped.

Easy 6
01-25-2020, 03:45 PM
Super disappointed in the Post, they're supposed to be NYC's anti-sjw paper :grr:

Flying High D
01-25-2020, 03:47 PM
Pretty sure that article is racist.

Hammock Parties
01-25-2020, 03:49 PM
Just ignore them. This won't be a thing.

Cheap clickbait.

Halfcan
01-25-2020, 03:51 PM
Worthless drivel by an ignorant fuckhead.

DaFace
01-25-2020, 03:52 PM
Just ignore them. This won't be a thing.

Cheap clickbait.Yep. He's gonna get asked about it on media day. Hopefully the PR department has coached him up about it. Clark too.

Flying High D
01-25-2020, 03:53 PM
Yep. He's gonna get asked about it on media day. Hopefully the PR department has coached him up about it. Clark too.

How about Norma?

The Franchise
01-25-2020, 03:56 PM
Hope he wins SB MVP.

DaFace
01-25-2020, 03:57 PM
Hope he wins SB MVP.That would be incredibly satisfying. Pretty unlikely he'd win it over Mahomes though even if he catches 5 TDs.

eDave
01-25-2020, 03:59 PM
That would be incredibly satisfying. Pretty unlikely he'd win it over Mahomes though even if he catches 5 TDs.

He could pass those TD's to himself and he still wouldn't win MVP.

dtforever
01-25-2020, 04:05 PM
Just ignore them. This won't be a thing.

Cheap clickbait.

And it's not even working. The New York post sports Twitter account tweeted the article. 3 likes, one RT, and about 5 replies which are "do better research" and "who cares".

digger
01-25-2020, 04:10 PM
Not to derail, but is it likely anyone but Mahomes could win the SP MVP with a win?

rabblerouser
01-25-2020, 04:16 PM
Of course, comments have been disabled.

Fucking queer ass NY Post.

Coming from a state that lets violent criminals out without bail and gives them a cell phone + cash when they're arrested.

Fucking hypocrites.

T-post Tom
01-25-2020, 04:22 PM
Seems like a weird article for a Jets’ beat writer to pen. Guess he has nothing else to write about this time of the year.;)

Titty Meat
01-25-2020, 04:32 PM
The NY Post isnt Kevin Keitzman


Dumb thread

TwistedChief
01-25-2020, 04:34 PM
Super disappointed in the Post, they're supposed to be NYC's anti-sjw paper :grr:

Yup! This is the ultra-conservative NY Post.

But whatever. Guys, get over it. Theres going to be more of this stuff coming. I'd be shocked if Frank Clark made it through the week unscathed for his past.

Welcome to the spotlight.

eDave
01-25-2020, 04:38 PM
Yep. He's gonna get asked about it on media day. Hopefully the PR department has coached him up about it. Clark too.

So, how would you answer those questions?

comochiefsfan
01-25-2020, 04:38 PM
Here we go...

Get ready for a lot of shit like this this week.

Rain Man
01-25-2020, 04:44 PM
Seems like a weird article for a Jets’ beat writer to pen. Guess he has nothing else to write about this time of the year.;)

Seems like he's lazy and not very competent. He's just writing what he remembered seeing on his social media from organizations like the KC Star. He's not going to be bothered to do five minutes of actual journalism to learn what really happened.

Titty Meat
01-25-2020, 04:46 PM
Yup! This is the ultra-conservative NY Post.

But whatever. Guys, get over it. Theres going to be more of this stuff coming. I'd be shocked if Frank Clark made it through the week unscathed for his past.

Welcome to the spotlight.

Bloomberg 2020

Easy 6
01-25-2020, 05:09 PM
Yup! This is the ultra-conservative NY Post.

But whatever. Guys, get over it. Theres going to be more of this stuff coming. I'd be shocked if Frank Clark made it through the week unscathed for his past.

Welcome to the spotlight.

I have every faith in Reid and those locker room leaders keeping things buttoned down, and blowing right past all of this media nonsense

burt
01-25-2020, 05:44 PM
"No comment. Next question"

tyreekthefreak
01-25-2020, 05:45 PM
Bloomberg 2020

Bloomberg is an ass!

NWTF
01-25-2020, 05:58 PM
Seems like a weird article for a Jets’ beat writer to pen. Guess he has nothing else to write about this time of the year.;)

Agreed. Of all the angles, matchups, stories regarding the Chiefs 49ers SB match up this is what you decide to go with. Lame.

BWillie
01-25-2020, 07:06 PM
Just ignore them. This won't be a thing.

Cheap clickbait.

Yea it will. Just wait.

penchief
01-25-2020, 07:48 PM
Super disappointed in the Post, they're supposed to be NYC's anti-sjw paper :grr:

The NY Post is slightly more credible than the National Enquirer, maybe. Its approach to journalism is pretty much the same; sensationalized stories about alien babies and celebrity scandals, etc.

rabblerouser
01-25-2020, 08:18 PM
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ClevelandBronco
01-25-2020, 09:44 PM
He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.

Easy 6
01-25-2020, 10:04 PM
He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.

You serious?

Get out...

GloryDayz
01-25-2020, 10:14 PM
New York news paper things...

Pitt Gorilla
01-25-2020, 10:35 PM
Not surprised at all. The Post isn’t worth the paper on which it’s printed.

rabblerouser
01-26-2020, 01:04 AM
He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.

He didn't ****ing do anything.

But now that you mentioned it...

https://kdvr.com/2014/09/10/report-broncos-lead-nfl-in-domestic-violence-arrests-during-roger-goodell-era/amp/

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/son-of-denver-broncos-owner-arrested-for-domestic-violence/

Guess you should boycott the Broncos, too.

Chiefshrink
01-26-2020, 01:29 AM
So, how would you answer those questions?

To the press: "I thought getting the straight facts are the most important thing journalists must do before reporting, correct? It seems due process is a thing of the past with the press and that all it takes is accusations not knowing the facts first in order to convict someone. Your mantra is "Guilty until proven innocent". Here is the dirty little secret for all you so-called journalists; Tyreek wasn't even charged with anything. How is someone guilty if they have never even been charged with a crime? Obviously in your world, all it takes is rumor and speculation to charge someone criminally. Very,very shameful. For once do your homework before reporting/asking questions in order to keep from embarrassing yourself and shaming the journalistic world as if it could be shamed any worse.

Next question.

Hammock Parties
01-26-2020, 05:16 AM
Yea it will. Just wait.

they've had almost a week

it's not a thing

ChiTown
01-26-2020, 12:05 PM
Idiots are ALWAYS looking for an audience. Don’t do it.

ChiTown
01-26-2020, 12:08 PM
He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.

Really? Tyreek Hill is the reason you won’t be watching? Interesting. So, guys that are found innocent of any wrongdoing really get your moral compass revved up, huh?

TomBarndtsTwin
01-26-2020, 12:13 PM
He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.

Glad your moral compass didn’t bother you when the Donkos had domestic abusers on the team during the Super Bowl years, or did you also boycott them as well??

DaFace
01-26-2020, 12:17 PM
So, how would you answer those questions?

:shrug:

I'm not a PR professional. My guess is they'd want to frame everything in terms of the future. Avoid talking about any details of the incidents themselves - no one is gonna believe him if he starts going off on his ex or whatever. "I've learned a lot from counseling, and nothing is as important to me as the health and happiness of my son" kinds of stuff is probably the best route. But again, I'm not an authority on that kind of thing.

Pitt Gorilla
01-26-2020, 01:53 PM
He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.

I’m not sure anyone believes that you’re actually this stupid/ignorant.

rydogg58
01-26-2020, 02:14 PM
He’s the reason I won’t be watching the game (or any other game in which he’s allowed to play).

Yeah, yeah. I’m sure the NFL will survive my boycott somehow.

Does this same logic apply to your viewing of the team in your avatar? I mean...surely you've watched Broncos games since 2013, right? Did you stop watching when Von Miller was all caught up in the slashing deaths of 5 people?